strategy

[boreal magnet]

kill 2 balls so we can block her with deffender

[vernal lion]

yes

3 block defender btw

[boreal magnet]

ah yes, 3 block one

imma try brute force first

[inner matrix]

guys i need help with cw-ex-8 cm

i tried so much didn't seem to be able to pass ;c

[cyan gorge]

99 dp Mud

[scarlet mortar]

my beloved

[vernal lion]

at least his team isn't too bad

[inner matrix]

its way too hard for some reason

[scarlet mortar]

that squad might just have to break balls and slap kristen with mon3tr

[scarlet mortar]

no well, it's. actually kinda bad

[glass monolith]

You won't believe me but answer is balls

[scarlet mortar]

lacking a lot of arts i think

[cyan gorge]

Swap Yato to s2 and use her to break balls

[inner matrix]

no mastery

[cyan gorge]

doesn't matter

[glass monolith]

It took me a while looking on full speed cars against gravity to understand something is off

[cyan gorge]

it breaks on hit count

[scarlet mortar]

ling works but you're going all in or going home

[inner matrix]

yea i beat the normal one

but cm its way too out of my league

[scarlet mortar]

left side is still a pain tbh

[cyan gorge]

Doesn't Weedy with medic almost solo left? Or does it not work on cm

[vernal lion]

left side can be stalled by a pusher

[glass monolith]

Huh... That explains why my Shamare kill ball after attacking it for 5 minutes

[scarlet mortar]

yh weedy owns the left side

but it depends if they have weedy or not

[vernal lion]

just use Shaw

or FEater

[glass monolith]

Oh right EX-8 has reduced enemy weight

[inner matrix]

you miss the sad part those are the only units i have listed

sadly

[glass monolith]

Shield boys don't even trigger button

[cyan gorge]

Borrow

[scarlet mortar]

i didn't, i kinda expected as much when ansel's still in there

[inner matrix]

;c

yelp me

[vernal lion]

Idk how to put a word on this but, you know cm condition right?

[boreal magnet]

does Lee effective against Jedis?

[scarlet mortar]

decimates them, but the first one in line will reach him

[vernal lion]

not really

[scarlet mortar]

so in the end no

[inner matrix]

yea

[vernal lion]

unless you do thing like this

[boreal magnet]

ball work

[scarlet mortar]

nah lee murders sabers if he can push them

[glass monolith]

When did it stop anyone?

[scarlet mortar]

the issue is that he won't push the first guy and that just kills him

[vernal lion]

as long as it proc like that, when enemy come, he just needs to push the ball like that

[scarlet mortar]

sabers lose hp based on distance shifted

[vernal lion]

just likes those arts sword dude in Break the Ice

but less dangerous

because of no explosion

[scarlet mortar]

just use podenco

[vernal lion]

aren't those guys unable to be silenced?

[scarlet mortar]

they can be silenced

i remember them being called reskinned ice spiders

[brazen stream]

I liked cancer better

anyway who tried the new SSS stage

[glass monolith]

Silence is excuse for people who can't brute force

Not me, i'm not mental meltdown

[brazen stream]

SSS ain’t that bad

[cyan gorge]

I just finished the other one

pretty fun

[glass monolith]

POISON, FOG, TOWER

[brazen stream]

Mama John’s?

[cyan gorge]

ye

[brazen stream]

Man I’ll miss Dossoles SSS

easiest to farm

[cyan gorge]

Mama john's was pretty wasy too

[brazen stream]

im sure penance and chongyue can sweep the new ones

as usual

[cyan gorge]

sniper buffed Ethan go brrr

[vernal lion]

when it come to TW server, it will be called 'Cancer Tumor'

[boreal magnet]

now what

[vernal lion]

rocket car rush to the right

[glass monolith]

And it is very troll rush because there is delay between cars, long enough to drain all your skills, but short enough for car to arrive before abilities are up

[boreal magnet]

lol

time to end this

pure chaos

[boreal magnet]

luckily i have cardigan on standby

so it can held a while while waiting for timing mlynar skills

[boreal magnet]

i had to texas the first and second cart, and activate mlynar
from there mlynar just take care of anything going through right side

[turbid badge]

OOOOHHH

Ocoliocope of one oh hunter hunter hunter

[turbid badge]

angelina negate poison

[deft badger]

this new map is fun

lol

[turbid badge]

anyways just use lin

[deft badger]

i wanna have fun bru

and not with stupid dragons

[turbid badge]

read dumpdumb

woah machine unique bind animation cool

[vernal lion]

Lin with 5 vg stacks lol

[turbid badge]

lin s1 is so good in SSS

Just stack aspd and free suzu s2

[vernal lion]

or you can go 1 sniper, 2 vg, 2 casterB/guardA

[turbid badge]

5 aspd ho ol

[deft badger]

dude mlynar with 100 atk speed u don't even see the animation

[turbid badge]

as the round gets longer the smoke gets stronger?

[deft badger]

seems like it

[turbid badge]

is there 4 secret medals

[glass monolith]

Well duh turn off X2 speed he swipes like 4 times per second on X2

[glass monolith]

I heard medal to do entire thing without losing is shared between Normal and Emergency

Can't really check because i didn't try to lose in normal to go deathless in emergency

[deft badger]

i am sweating at that gas s-

only AH works for me xD

[boreal magnet]

god bless spalter carry this stages

[turbid badge]

carry

[deft badger]

go away dude xD

ain't taking her even in to my team lol

[cosmic thicket]

rat is cool though

[deft badger]

i am watching her hit that thing since 3min

[turbid badge]

uhh

[ancient light]

IS memory mapping this month feels really hard, I either get supporters or medics or casters so gladiia doesn't get a blocker to focus on pulling

[tropic valve]

well, Gladiia is strong enough to function as a pseudo-guard

even if she's not pulling enemies into holes

although if you're very strapped on blockers, you could draft a summoner from a Supporter ticket or Kalt'sit from a Medic ticket to help Gladiia

Beeswax from Caster ticket can also block

[restive solstice]

i'm a bit confused on how Kristen works. i'm doing CW-EX-8 CM and after killing her 1st form, my 2nd operators on the right side instantly die ven thogh they shouldnt be within the Ball's explosion radius, unless the radius is literally like 4+ tiles in every direction

[tropic valve]

whenever a star ring is destroyed, there's a global arts attack

[crisp bolt]

It does damage

[tropic valve]

in phase 1 you can avoid dealing with star rings altogether by bursting Kirsten at spawn, but in phase 2 there are 4 star rings so you'll most likely be taking 4 instances of damage

you CAN prevent it by silencing Kristen I believe

alternatively, if you just pop the star rings not all at once, you should be able to heal through it

[restive solstice]

my rightside ops are instantly dying upon ending phase 1, not by destroying star rings

[crisp bolt]

Nope it doesn't affect the rings

Silence only affects the detonation when she dies

[restive solstice]

and then in phase 2 idk how to destroy the star rings , like texas alter S2 does like 30% of their HP 😭

[crisp bolt]

I just let them exist

[restive solstice]

i tried, and kristen basically has like 80% reduction, past true dmg lol

so ending phase 1 does a global arts explosion too? kaltsit dies from full HP..

[crisp bolt]

It's based on the amount of rings

If you nuke fast enough she'll only have 1 ring out

And kal will survive the detonation

[restive solstice]

when i kill her phase 1, theres at most 1 ring out, i destroy them in texalter as they come

[glass monolith]

Your nuke sucks I didn't let her get first ring in EX

Was not part of plan but like when it stopped me

[crisp bolt]

Sorry but I had to save dps for phase 2

[tropic valve]

yeah most teams should be able to burst her phase 1 fast enough at 0 rings

for example I did Schwarz + Suzuran

[glass monolith]

I saved phase 2 so well she was last enemy alive

[tropic valve]

phase 2 takes FOREVER

[crisp bolt]

Then I probably did then

[tropic valve]

you can take your sweet time

bring a Nightingale or something to heal through Kristen's damage

[crisp bolt]

I basically spawn killed her. I just thought she had an instant pop on ring

[restive solstice]

so the strategy is to insta kill her upon spawn, then stall her while killing everything else and ignore rings phase 2?

[crisp bolt]

If you lack in damage, you stall phase 1

[tropic valve]

that's more or less what I did: kill p1 fast, kill p2 slow

[crisp bolt]

If you have enough damage, you nuke phase 1

[restive solstice]

i probably dont lack dmg, just brain cells

[crisp bolt]

You just need to be able to set up the phase 2 so you don't leak

[tropic valve]

notably in p2 there are 4 rings which means she requires 5 block; I killed 2 star rings early on to reduce her to 3 block, so she would be stuck on my Defender; but I waited a long time to get a better setup before killing the other 2 star rings

[crisp bolt]

My strat involved texalter + mlynar + rat to clear the area

Instead of bothering to block I used passenger

[tropic valve]

yeah Passenger in the center works well here

covers all lanes

[crisp bolt]

Stalled her long enough to delete the wave of enemies

And then I killed her with 70% dr

[restive solstice]

i've been using mlynar and lin to clear the big boys, kinda struggling to kill the cars after kal is dying on the right side

[crisp bolt]

The way I had passenger let me get one of the rings down

[restive solstice]

she slowly summons more rings right?

[crisp bolt]

Not in phase 2

[restive solstice]

oh

[crisp bolt]

Phase 2 she can't make more rings

[restive solstice]

aight thx for ideas

[crisp bolt]

the setup though was the worst thing I've ever done

I had to run 2 flags to make the DP cost

if only I had bag

oh my god I'm so stupid

I was running that entire thing without kal's mod

[novel pivot]

New SSS dropped

They got rid of my 0 cost defenders

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/942010737935675432.png?size=96

Wdf hg

[turbid badge]

l

[autumn grotto]

i didnt even knew there was a new sss i hvnt done it in like 4 months minimum

[vernal lion]

without GG, this would be hard as hell man

[autumn grotto]

wat da fck are those thingys

[novel pivot]

Me who dun have gg

[autumn grotto]

like the ones on the no deploy tile

[autumn grotto]

me who uses GG from support

[novel pivot]

[autumn grotto]

honestly that sss looks cringe already i dont wanna do it

[vernal lion]

they keep eating your DP

[autumn grotto]

ive got enuf cancer with ex8 cm

[autumn grotto]

fck

off

ive had enuf of that frm chp 12

hell no i aint doing that unless im actually that bored bruh

[waxen swan]

I want to eat dp

[inner matrix]

guys how do i avoid getting that 2 balls on the bottom spawn

is there a hidden tech or something?

[storm current]

no

when you kill kristen 1st phase

she explode all balls

then convert all balls

[inner matrix]

no

[storm current]

theres no way around it

[inner matrix]

not that

i watch someone

the whole phase 1

their bottom balls didn't even appear

[storm current]

what balls

[inner matrix]

Chinese black magic?

[storm current]

enemies or friendly

[inner matrix]

Enemies

[storm current]

was they killing the top 2 balls

[inner matrix]

they ignore the top left

only kill the top right

[storm current]

kristen only convert 1 balls at a time

once every 40s iirc

so if you kill the top balls, she prob go for those first

[inner matrix]

hmm

[crisp bolt]

yeah it prioritizes in top right, top left, bottom left, bottom right order

so if you kill before the next one spawns, she will convert it back

[inner matrix]

so my problem is lacking dps

sadly

[storm current]

no

[turbid badge]

lol

[storm current]

you dont need dps to kill balls

you need to attack faster

[crisp bolt]

oh wait that's how the targeting works

Kristen always targets the furthest one

[storm current]

by default, boss has ~3500 def 70 res in EX
each hit reduce 50 def and 1 res

so keep attacking faster and balls will reach 0 def res

[crisp bolt]

you can see it in Kyo's CW-EX-8 CM clear

[vernal lion]

it's also depended on gravity direction too

[unkempt lintel]

hello guys... question

is poison haze in sss map to contagious??? like need to buff medics with aspd or the medic buffs itself?

[turbid badge]

stonk

[noble pewter]

it is global n true dmg, medic buff does not seem able to reduce the dmg aoe medics heal a lot

[unkempt lintel]

yeah i think ill put many sniper buff in medics as possible.... i have a bit of taste of it in lvl 1 and god daym they rly burn a lot of hp

[noble pewter]

folinic might be possible reduce dmg with module? not sure, perfumer works well, not much ranged enemy so quite safe except that one stage where got rocket cars

[unkempt lintel]

yeah good thing i hyper invest in perfumer.... she is the only aoe medic i can count on rn

[noble pewter]

i just use saria s2 w/ sp buffs+ 1 aoe healer, didnt bother buff medic with atk spd as need it for ranged dps

[unkempt lintel]

hmmm s2 saria seems the best to use huh .... well maybe r7 will be enuf as long as she have sp buffs

yeah and i cant use my enmity ops.... my only raised defender beside saria were the two jugs... i dont know how will it affect me in higher levels

[noble pewter]

mine was s2m3, but yes i think it shouldnt change too much the poison hurts but wont kill u, just scare u a lot unless u really not doing enuf healing

[deft badger]

did have to reset and get NG this is just cringe 😄

[vernal lion]

when I have Perfumer, Saria and Skalter...

[turbid badge]

Lek

ez sweeps

yes that bagpipe has 2 defender stacks

[vernal lion]

[unkempt lintel]

deym the haze sure hurts.... im only at danger lvl 6 and they almost instanly clr the shield due to props

iz time to s2m3 saria frfr

[turbid badge]

just use aoe medic + medic start thing

with the shield

its op

[unkempt lintel]

[crisp bolt]

this new sss looks awful

[turbid badge]

[umbral dock]

#strategy fucking finally im done with CW EX 8 CM

[unkempt lintel]

yeah i can somehow manage with perf + saria s2

[umbral dock]

I ling'd it

[vernal lion]

at danger level 10, poison haze deals 70 true dmg per second

[unkempt lintel]

i rely rn on good ol goldenglow with aspd buffs... and she can handle pretty well

good thing the poison haze stages only have one paths... well excpet that lvl 4 i think... but ill see how cruel that stage

[celest bluff]

Hard choice

[noble pewter]

if u have lot of ranged unit prob 2nd better, never know if banner deploy somewhere weird

[sullen rover]

id take the cylinder ngl

[celest bluff]

Less rng yeah

Sike bitch

SHE IS AUTO

[crisp bolt]

[deft badger]

i have just to cringe on them stage 5 and 6 is way to stupid, without ng and AH i have 0 plan how to do it

[celest bluff]

Imagine myrtle s1 auto

[crisp bolt]

s2 pozy time?

[deft badger]

hahahaha

all 3 have the 20% less dmg buff

[vernal lion]

weird shit

but at least AH got 7 stacks

[deft badger]

they take 0 dmg xD

i wanna know if that thing even stacks up

that would be 60% on total

then +gladiia 30%

90% dmg reduction

[storm current]

no

dmg reduction stack multiplicatively

for medic stacks

only highest effect apply

[turbid badge]

[storm current]

which mean even if you have 3 units with 2 stack each, they get 20% in total

[deft badger]

whats with gladiia mod?

[storm current]

stack multiplicatively

if they have 20% + 30%

its (1-0.2)*(1-0.3)

or -42% dmg in total

[deft badger]

that's solid

[storm current]

doesnt apply to poison DOT

[deft badger]

saw that, nearly died to that stupid thing they left on the ground

since 4 of the big dudes did crash in to me

[turbid badge]

what are the secret zones?

is one of them like leak kristen

carnelians pretty fun to utilize

cant wait for her mod

second

[deft badger]

what was the best stage for t3 rocks?

10-6?

[crisp bolt]

1-7

[deft badger]

what do u mean with 1-7

[latent anvil]

1-7

[crisp bolt]

you can't escape from 1-7

don't try

[storm current]

Statistically
You get A T3 rock drop every 27 sanity from 10-6

If you craft T2 => T3, then in 1-7 its 24 sanity per T3 rock drop

[deft badger]

did calc it right now

i got it 😄

[latent anvil]

the real thing with 1-7 is its value in sidedrops

[neat skiff]

Those "Haha, you fucking failed. Have something you don't want" drops.

[crisp bolt]

why would you do both

[tidal sedge]

They could just kill off knight floor 4 or smth

I take knight early if I don't have a second body, helps with Malady

[steady pilot]

Who’s the best range for mumu to copy after dorothy?

[foggy grove]

find on your roster who has fast atk interval and decent atk

[cyan gorge]

Archetto, blue poison, Exu

[neat skiff]

Exu aspd talent applies so she wins.

[tropic valve]

tips for 1st try secret medals: Mama John ||ground tile Schwarz op, just make sure you have tanks for the last map|| Raythean ||do NOT kill the boss asap, let him fly around until your healing setup is fully ready||

[near basalt]

Hey is curoa r due-nar to e2

[sly drift]

Man.. kristen ex 8 is actually strong eh

[sly drift]

What is this. New tower?

[neat skiff]

New SSS dropped like 15 hours ago.

[sly drift]

It's been a long time we have no new tower. I thought those tower before the update will stay perma lol

[cyan gorge]

Both are fine left at e1, but if you don't have a good phys wall already raised, like Hoshi, then you can e2 Cuora

[near basalt]

Mm

[cinder bridge]

i can’t get through cw5 and here are my characters someone plz help

[south bone]

Lol it's seasonal

[noble pewter]

block the cars with ur horn s2 n nearl s1, slow heavy defender with orchid n pelt them with kroos

[gentle sparrow]

Idk why the boss was blocked but she could pass away later??

[noble pewter]

this is the barest bone clear https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sP411m7Ls/ so hopefully u just bring more vg n use more deploy slots n u shud easily win

[noble pewter]

if is phase 1 most likely is she captured more balls n +1 to her block count requirement, she captures one every 30s or so n the farthest ball to her, thus u need try camp n destroy 1 star ring every 40s to prevent this, star ring defensive stat reduce w/ every atk so just keep hitting it

[tidal sedge]

She requires +1 additional block for each Star Ring that exists

[storm current]

every 30s

but ye

destroy star ring

each star ring give her 35% dmg reduction, including true dmg, stack multiplicatively

and +1 block

[storm current]

nah you are right
it is 30s

[gentle sparrow]

Fine, I get it
Thanks all

[storm current]

mb

30 sp

10 initial sp

[cinder bridge]

tysm

[cinder bridge]

got it

[cosmic thicket]

u mean 20 initial sp

bc it takes 10 secs to cast first skill

[noble pewter]

what website is this?

[storm current]

https://prts.wiki/w/克丽斯腾

[sour steppe]

hey guys

what is the meta for this map?

[cinder bridge]

how come the stupid ass car just keep suddenly speed up and dash through?

[cinder bridge]

i’ll prob just try that tbh

[desert pawn]

How am i supposed to complete my investigations if I can't dps the boss fast enough in cw-10 T_T

[ancient hearth]

Ended up just going with first aid kit, Ptilopsis, and a ton of casters. Stuff like gnosis sniper stacks and gg carry still work.

[cyan gorge]

Borrow someone who can

[ancient hearth]

You probably want some ground units with heavy self sustain for the early rushes, mountain is best but healing defenders can work as well.

[cyan gorge]

Does anyone know if inspiration affects deployables like Pozy and Stainless turret?

[sullen rover]

i dont think they do

wait

just tested inspiration actually affects them lol

[cyan gorge]

I wonder if I can do something funny with Skalter s3 + Stainless s3

[sullen rover]

wait they dont
i pressed on mags summon

[cyan gorge]

betrayed

[novel pivot]

Just finished mama john SSS in extreme

The crushers more annoying than the boss

[noble pewter]

the gravity, dont let them move with the direction of gravity, try keep the down button pressed with 1 operator like the video or dont let heavy defender press the up switch, also make ur operator face with the gravity so they get more atk spd

[noble pewter]

stainless turret is scaled off stainless atk, so u can try inspire stainless himself instead

[noble pewter]

u just need to dps her fast in phase 1, then take it slow n steady afterwards, a single lv90 surtr s3m3 borrow can do the trick

[latent monolith]

No it doesn't, tokens and summons only scale off levels

[neat skiff]

They do indirectly.

The turret shooting attack is 260% SL7 or 300% M3 of Stainless atk.

Buff Stainless attack then you buff the turret damage.

[noble pewter]

not stainless turret though base atk 100, but it is a multiplier on stainless atk, so when u activate his skill he incr his atk n thus the turret do more dmg, thus if u buff with skalter etc u also will incr the dmg

[cyan gorge]

[neat skiff]

The problem is Stainless has an attack of 678 with module and pot 1.

Buffs can only go so far.

[latent monolith]

Oh it's calculated with stainless atk

[latent monolith]

That's the point of inspire right, since it buffs regardless of base atk

The turret itself is atk scale

[celest bluff]

I made a thing

[timid schooner]

ow

i do not enjoy cm

[cyan gorge]

Inspire is a flat stat buff, isn't it? That atk stat doesn't seem that bad to me

Also, if turret damage is based on Stainless atk, wouldn't that mean Warf buffed Stainless can buff turret damage too?

[robust hemlock]

omg i hate this lvl

[polar crane]

set gravity up

[tidal sedge]

What I liked doing was to avoid killing top robot so top ball stays in place

[polar crane]

and you have an ifrit tile

[robust hemlock]

i dont care about useless op tile

[polar crane]

you're really a conversation killer

[cyan gorge]

That's how he is

[turbid badge]

is there really a point

of all those casters

[celest bluff]

Is it really possible to be this bad

Or this guy is just really good at pretending that he have no brain at all

[foggy grove]

oh i need to do ex

[celest bluff]

You need to do cm

[noble pewter]

Yes it will, but it's a lot to setup when u can just buff sth like an exusia or other fast atking ranged op but yea if u setup sth like 2 turret n dot them with a blue poison/ ethan etc maybe it can achieve good dps

[cyan gorge]

I've been using s1 Ethan with good success so far, I didn't know about the Skalter interaction till now

[turbid badge]

what

for stainless?

[cyan gorge]

Stainless s3 yeah

I just raised him

[turbid badge]

I always use skalter tbh if im using in SSS

buffs chong and stainless both

chong hit crazy numbers

im doing m2

[cyan gorge]

I didn't build him

[cyan gorge]

I probably won't be building anyone till Eyja event

[turbid badge]

really?

[celest bluff]

I currently in middle of nowhere waiting for a bus

[turbid badge]

not even any 5*

[cyan gorge]

I raised 5 e2s since event drop, I'm super broke

[turbid badge]

tbh i barley use my windchimes and swire and tomimi recently , i just used beeswax this event for the pressure plate and bait ranged so i do t need to bring medic

[cyan gorge]

too many modules coming

[turbid badge]

ye

ima just raise lee and sleep

[cyan gorge]

Actually I might be able to get enough mats to raise one 6 star and a 5 star in a month and a half

on top of modules

[celest bluff]

Ex-7cm, what do I need again

[cyan gorge]

More block

Kal isn't enough

[celest bluff]

Guards

[fast basin]

Puller for lightsabers, s1sl7 gladiia was enough for me

[cyan gorge]

Weedy s2 afks them

[fast basin]

So does gladiia, weedy needs time for her s2

[cyan gorge]

easy to stall with Suzu/Tex/Yato

[fast basin]

Why do you stall when u can just put a puller and forget about it

[covert forge]

That takes some time

[polar crane]

plume hit fast his def hit 0 soon

like 30sec

[celest bluff]

Just use the balls

[covert forge]

I don't want to attempt CM

It's gonna be hard

🥹

[polar crane]

believe in yourself

[covert forge]

The thing is

Even with last upgrade to max

Defenders need to tank debris like 3 times

[novel pivot]

Have u guys done extreme raythean sss yet

how bad is the haze buff

[celest bluff]

When did I...

Not that I complaining but tf

[robust hemlock]

bowling stage

[sly drift]

Just how big is Kristen stats difference on CW-10 and Ex-8

On CW-10 it took me one burst using reed sexas, yato but took me like the whole squad to burst her down twice, and she still survive somehow.

(Without breaking the debris ofc. Fuck mechanic )

[latent monolith]

She gets more damage reduction

[sly drift]

It's just one more stack of debris buff isnt it

[storm current]

CW-10: 35k hp, 600 atk, 600 def, 50 res
each balls give 30% dmg reduction, 3 balls
EX-8/S-4: 50k hp, 700 atk, 800 def, 50 res
CM: 60k hp, 840 atk, 960 def, 50 res
each balls give 35% dmg reduction
4 balls in EX8
6 balls in S4

[sly drift]

But the gap is soooo huge lmfao

[sly drift]

No wonder

[latent monolith]

You get more DR per ball and more balls

[noble pewter]

But why, some say, the Pioneer project? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask, why climb Kjerag? Why, 35 years ago, sail the Golden Age? Why does Lappland chase Texas? We choose to go to the Moon... We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win, and the others, too.

[neat skiff]

Her DR stacks multiplicatively. 30%, 51%, 65.7% for normal.
35%, 57.8%, 72.5%, 82.1%, 88.4%, 92.5% for CW-EX-8 and CW-S-4.

[storm current]

still fairly easy

just kill balls

CW is one of the easier event we have

[latent monolith]

65.7% DR -> 82.1% DR means you do about half damage btw

So it's doubling the ehp just from that

[sly drift]

Now that I think about it. Kristen whole stage mechanic is actually soo hard. Kristen herself isn't a threat but the thing she provide from debris and shit is just so powerful

[neat skiff]

Hell, Kill one ball and use a defender with the 4 block module. She doesn't hit hard at all to the point Noir Corne can tank her.

[storm current]

or triple if you include the extra hp

[latent monolith]

and 92.5 DR is about 22% damage of 65.7

so near 5 times the ehp from that alone

[storm current]

ye you are looking at ~840 art dmg every 5s

or around 168 dps

lmao

[covert forge]

so like Surtr go Brrrttt

[storm current]

phase 2 is +20% atk and double target

so like

[neat skiff]

The biggest thing is her DR and block count mechanic.

[storm current]

just out heal lol

[latent monolith]

Goldenglow shreds the balls

[storm current]

just attack balls and eventually they will reach 0 def res

[latent monolith]

aak gg for very fast ball removal

they gave you silence alter this event for a reason

[sly drift]

Kristen third phase would be amusing

More damage reduction

[storm current]

silence her to death

easy

she still only has 50k base hp

pathetic

[latent monolith]

Lappland to kristen: SILENCE, MORTAL

[sly drift]

Man. I didn't even know you can silence her

What ability you silence

[neat skiff]

Only during second phase.

Then the exclusive thing it stops is the "all stellar rings explode after her death".

[latent monolith]

Yeah it's nothing major

Imagine DR could be silenced tho

[sly drift]

What dr

[latent monolith]

damage reduction

[sly drift]

Why the hell we silence something like that
Doesn't make any sense

[neat skiff]

For each stellar ring Kristen gains DR that also reduces true damage.

[neat skiff]

Because some enemies we can.

[sly drift]

Oh really?

That's should be illegal tbh

[neat skiff]

Ideal city trash mobs.

[sly drift]

Y'all mod 3 rosmontis?

I want to try it

[neat skiff]

I will, but I ran out of module blocks so need to build up my supply again.

[glass monolith]

Random BS go

[robust hemlock]

omagad

cringe lvl

[vocal leaf]

i hate ch11 enemies

[boreal magnet]

what a bullshit stage

[tropic valve]

which SSS do y'all think is harder to do emergency no-reset? Mama John or Raythean?

[jovial nest]

my SSS strat really don't like mixing buffs

Should I just use Energy Perturbation?

I use Gnosis always and GG and Mudrock are present for more CC

[jovial nest]

I like that Mama John's theme is purely assault maps

[vernal lion]

both are hard as same,
but boss fight in Mama John is harder, due to having 3 bluebox that you need to protect, and some early mob rush is not enough to get fully preparation when boss comes out

[vocal leaf]

is even possible to do non reset?

[vernal lion]

also, boss device eating DP, so without killing it, you're already dead

[vocal leaf]

penance is pretty able to solo the boss, for me raythean is harder with the poison

[vernal lion]

I don't even let the boss getting near to me lol

[jovial nest]

I like the CC equipment

since i use a LOT of CCs in SSS

also heh, Mudrock spinning for everyone

[vernal lion]

🗿

time to do hard mode

[jovial nest]

why thank you very much

[glass monolith]

This game fucking hates Erato

[tropic valve]

oh definitely, last season I did both emergencies no reset with Sknights, and I'm debating what challenge to do this season

unfortunately Raythean has the annoying blocks

so sometimes your opening hand just bricks and you have to start over

[vocal leaf]

last season had easier stages, this season they’re too oppressive to make a perfect run, at least for me

[tropic valve]

hmm idk

I haven't tried Mama John emergency yet

I've tried the other 3 and they felt comparable?

very different in terms of drafting strategy certainly

like Raythean is the first SSS that actively incentivizes Medics

whereas Acahualla was more about mobbing

[vocal leaf]

i already clear both emergencies, hmm for me raythean is harder on the way to go there and stage 5 is the pick of difficulty with cars and the tree guys, mama johns is easier in general but the start on boss stages is the hardest part, for me gnosis was a must have to stop the hammer guys

[tropic valve]

hmm makes sense

3 lanes be like that

[vocal leaf]

i also did it on even harder mode because was using the aegir equipment with only gladiia friend from AH

[tropic valve]

tbh Aegir equipment is probably the weakest

[vocal leaf]

yeah doesnt bring anything helpful compared to other ones

[glass monolith]

It bring you reason to bring entire AH squad which is W for me

[jovial nest]

i really like the CC-centric equipment so far

i wonder what the unique one for Raythean is

[tropic valve]

oh that one helps a lot

it superpowers all your Medics

[vernal lion]

basically, go vgA or casterA for your medic

[tropic valve]

you can do funny things like guardB your medic

[vocal leaf]

gnosis was my life savior for raythean too and ng of course, im waiting kernel location to get her from cert shop

[jovial nest]

is it worth it?

I can see Reedter centric carries be nice with that

[tropic valve]

yeah for me it was Perfumer

I brought Mudrock which probably wasn't too smart considering she can't be healed

but Perfumer kinda heals Mudrock

so it worked out

[jovial nest]

well the map ain't over but I've finished my layout already

[tropic valve]

ah yes

the Great Wall of Penance

[jovial nest]

and Gavialter behind

and i love the CC equipment

so much CC

[tropic valve]

I wonder if you can charge the device with Liskarm?

[jovial nest]

that requires Lisk getting hit...

[tropic valve]

would be a funny way to chain cc

[vernal lion]

2 pumps

hehe bois

[soft crystal]

ChonGod

[vernal lion]

the Raythean SSS is basically "If you don't have aoe medic, you're done"

holy shit, go away

[glass monolith]

I can tell what will be your next 3 draws

[jovial nest]

wow that Raythean boss fight was rough

i wasn't able to first clear it

gonna have to do that flawless clear after i learn to win once

one thing's for sure. Better to spawncamp

too many DP eaters

[vernal lion]

it's Mama John

[jovial nest]

oops

Damn Mama's ex-workers

[tidal sedge]

When I switch the Gravity to Up, will the enemies go down straight? where the ball was initially
Also I planned to put Pass where Ines is, he'll get the damage from the balls or nah?

[glass monolith]

I purposefully let that bottom left ball stay there, There are enemies who will tell you "thanks for shortcut sucker" if you let top left ball drop, raise bottom left ball, move bottom right ball for unknown reason (unless you plan to do giga brain ball push which was not part of my strategy)

Arts sword weebs at end just go directly into boxes if ball not blocking their path

[tidal sedge]

I plan to let the top left ball stay there, same with the bottom right one. I want to stall the left with Hoshi-Warf and Passenger there. But can't find a safe spot for the three..

[vernal lion]

healing goes brrr

[glass monolith]

Meanwhile i had some legendary tier shitshow on that map (there was Manticore in middle slowing everything)

[jovial nest]

ok finalized the layout

now time to do this without any retries...

and i think I'll relocate the CC machine to the middle

the boss didn't even get her chance to attack penance

[vernal lion]

[tidal sedge]

I see you didn't destroy one of the balls, changed the gravity to up and then stalled her till the end

Gonna try this

[glass monolith]

I instantly killed phase 1 resulting in her locking balls, while she was stalled for hours with Manticore and Astgenne slows killed everything in most scuffed way possible, defusing 3 balls in progress

With 1 ball killing her is no issue for me

I knew about CM guard defender cost up so tried to avoid using them at all

[vernal lion]

ok 1 more hard SSS left to go

and I'm done to this shit

[tropic valve]

nice

[solid dew]

i still have to do the emergency ones
got the secret ones tho

[jovial nest]

Thank goodness Mama John's boss don't have much HP.

I guess that's the gist of her having a long invul

[south bone]

damn i haven't played the new SSS maps

surely both boss is harder than the boss of last Dossoles map

[tropic valve]

that's true, although Sandel the boss of Dossoles didn't exactly set a high bar

[south bone]

he didn't have any unique gimmick lol

[sly drift]

Mumu cloning andreana AH vs Andreana without AH

They do change lmao

[neat skiff]

Yup.

[sly drift]

It seems like the starting point is stats "Before" you deploy the op is what mumu clone copy

[neat skiff]

While there are some quirks, "stats when they deploy" is what the clone does.

So passive skills and "always on" talents apply.

[rose patrol]

If only mumu is in cc10

[neat skiff]

Mumu could change several CC's.

Like imagine Mumu in CC5.

[sly drift]

What cc5

Crocs?

[rose patrol]

Kazimierz cc

[neat skiff]

Dual lane with hammer/bow bro.

[sly drift]

Ah

You want her to stall the hammer?

[neat skiff]

The "literally impossible to max risk" one.

[storm current]

for 15s bind stall ?

or

because 4 slot limit

[neat skiff]

6 slot, but yes.

[sly drift]

It's still not fuckin possible unless you change the script or something lol

Like that one debate I had about probability of completing that on max risk if all the rng changed to 100%

[vernal lion]

were we talking about this 6 months ago?

[sly drift]

Idk. It's been so long

[neat skiff]

Almost assuredly.

[vernal lion]

clone copy the 'current stat', so yea

[rose patrol]

Who do u want to copy for cc5 stall

[neat skiff]

Yeah, and there simply isn't the slots to bring something great for Mumu to clone.

[rose patrol]

Mud?

[soft crystal]

Raythean sss was too easy lol

[vernal lion]

stall what, isn't there 2 lanes, 1 with weak mob, 1 with crab?

[neat skiff]

Basically 2.5 lanes.

2 lanes of enemies, 1 lane of crabs.

[sly drift]

How high do you rate mumu kit

[storm current]

mostly niche

[sly drift]

I would say S

[vernal lion]

yea

[storm current]

she is alternative version of lane holder

[vernal lion]

she's niche, so A+

[storm current]

cuz of bind and range

[glass monolith]

Random bullshit go

Which is highest rating for me who refuse to do normal stuff

[vernal lion]

clone dmg is just Ling dragon but it's wider

[storm current]

supposedly

[neat skiff]

Mumu is the same as Stainless. They rely very heavily on what other ops you have.

[storm current]

her entire kit is based on what clone fodder you have

so for now, kinda eh

but

if we get a crazy strong loopshooter

she might be more relevant

[glass monolith]

Wait

[neat skiff]

New player? She is pretty ass. Built roster? She can be cracked.

[glass monolith]

She don't copy loopshooters "can't attack before projectile returns"

What is loopshooter attack speed?

[storm current]

1s

[glass monolith]

Fuck it use Dorothy

[neat skiff]

Same as marksman, 1 second.

[glass monolith]

Also wasn't marksman 1.2 or something?

[storm current]

loop shooter is huge stat stick
the catch is that they have negative trait

so with dorothy ignoring trait, ideally they are perfect copy archetype

[soft crystal]

Markasman is also 1s

[storm current]

loopshooter has massive hp, higher base atk than marksman and better range

[glass monolith]

They have better defensive stats, but wasn't they offensive stat sorta meh?

[storm current]

no

[neat skiff]

An interesting clone will be Coldshot archetype.

[storm current]

better base atk

[vernal lion]

but loopshooter is like AA sniper but bad, and go heavyshooter when enemy's close

[glass monolith]

Another Ifrit situation

[vernal lion]

honestly I like the attack range

[neat skiff]

Hunter attack interval is 1.6 seconds.

[vernal lion]

talking about hunter, that is another of Ifrit lane meme

[neat skiff]

Then the 5 star has 1063 base attack (with trust)

[storm current]

hmm

[sly drift]

Isn't she more of general use? I use her on dp tight map and it's pretty chill
With ines

[storm current]

wouldnt a caster be better in that case

[vernal lion]

if I need DP I just use Myrtle, trust

[neat skiff]

Casters all have long attack intervals.

Except drone casters, but they have super low base attack and rely on their drone mechanic.

[tender tusk]

perfect for boss with low res because the drone adds 10% each attack up to 110%

[vernal lion]

caster is magical user so you can say that they don't need high aspd

it's % dmg

and drone caster atk is bleh

[tender tusk]

but Ceobe tho

[neat skiff]

Muelsyse clone doesn't have drones though.

[glass monolith]

Copy Indigo

[vernal lion]

we haven't talked about skill yet, only trait

[tender tusk]

because she's a tactician vanguard ??

[glass monolith]

BECAUSE CLONE DONT TAKE TRAIT OF YOUR SHIT

[vernal lion]

clone only copy operator body, and operator stat

[tender tusk]

imagine self healing clone from reaper archetype

mmmMMmm

[neat skiff]

Clone copies melee/ranged, physical/arts, hp, attack, defense, block count and a select few talents and skills.

Those select few talents/skills are "always on passives". Like Exu aspd or Hoshi S2 defense boost.

[vernal lion]

also, Mumu suppose to be a supporter
just look at Ling

[tender tusk]

both got op summons

[vernal lion]

the fun part is Mumu is useless when no op

[neat skiff]

Thank fuck she isn't a supporter. The 0 deploy limit is one of the best parts of her kit.

[tender tusk]

😔only water blob

[glass monolith]

Can't she solo 1-7 with blob?

[vernal lion]

so yea

[vernal lion]

does blob attack enemy?

I don't think so

[glass monolith]

I don't know i have ros not mumu

[neat skiff]

Also, Lin would be a pretty good clone. Arts damage, 2s interval, tier 3 module is super common.

[vernal lion]

and can she kill a Junkman fast enough?

[neat skiff]

996 damage.

[vernal lion]

good enough

[glass monolith]

If CN can clear it with just drones (And cat) surely we can cook something

[tender tusk]

i cleared SV-9 with Executors + Skadi

[sly drift]

Yea but what i don't like about flag is they're useless for half of the battle whereas mumu can bind with some damage or tank with hoshi stats. She's just so flexible

[vernal lion]

yes

but in situational

[neat skiff]

Flags module could offer some interesting things. Operator in front gains 1 block.

[tender tusk]

WHAT

Flagpipe will still got its glory!?

[vernal lion]

the fact that vg is not good but also not bad because they are situational

[neat skiff]

Reduce block count to 0 during skill, and give the operator in front +1 block

For Myrtle it's meh, but for someone like Saileach boosting a centurion...

[tender tusk]

it made very huge difference

[glass monolith]

Every time. There is "Block needed 2" stunable enemy after this. I will S2 Eunectes with with Myrtle

[tender tusk]

S3 Gavial alter can block 5

[neat skiff]

Before buffs, yes.

[sly drift]

Yea but then the enemy path is like. On lane beside the flag

[tender tusk]

oof

[vernal lion]

imagine having new combo of helidrop in the future,
Saileach s3 + Gavialter s3

[tropic valve]

longest stun in the game

[bright pilot]

Hello, these is the only list of characters I have, can anyone help me make a main team for stories? thank you

[vernal lion]

which stage are you in now

[bright pilot]

Chapter 2

Still level 4

[neat skiff]

You have a 3 star sniper Kroos. Raise her.

She hits way above her rarity.

[bright pilot]

Okay and for the rest of 11 characters who should I pick?

[eager gate]

This map design pisses me off

[neat skiff]

So, I'm jaded and tainted by having a built roster, but I wouldn't really invest in those ops past E1L50 at most. Have you been doing free pulls on the event banner?

[bright pilot]

Yup I did

Although the list that I gave to you is the list of characters I have for now

[neat skiff]

Like there is the default "2 defenders, 2 medics, 2 guards, 2 casters, 2 snipers, 1 vanguard, 1 flex slot"

[bright pilot]

1 flex slot is what?

[vernal lion]

whatever you can use

[bright pilot]

Ah

[vernal lion]

maybe 1 vanguard too

[neat skiff]

anything you either want or if a stage needs it.

[bright pilot]

So the default format of squads is this then

[neat skiff]

Something similar to that.

Of your current ops Kroos is the best. After that is Amiya and Specter, then Liskarm.

[bright pilot]

for casters, I noticed Amiya doesnt deal AoE damage yet Greyy did, how can I differentiate between which caster does AoE damage and which isnt? I cant seems to find the explanation regarding this on the menu

[neat skiff]

Early on you will want 2 snipers.

[vernal lion]

chap 0 and 1 are still easy because you just protect 1 bluebox,
maybe 2 in Crownslayer map

[jovial nest]

how many medics did you guys bring for Raythean?

I'm guessing I'm prioritizing ground ops less

[vernal lion]

in chapter 2, you will learn to protect 2 bluebox regularly

[neat skiff]

Go to the operator page and look at the bottom right.

[bright pilot]

ok

[neat skiff]

You will see something like "splash caster" for Greyy.

Click on it.

[bright pilot]

ill keep in mind

[peak cloak]

Amiya shines when u e2 her and have access to True Damage (s3). she will help u a lots on later chapters

[bright pilot]

ok

[vernal lion]

I only bring 2 aoe medic

if from the starting the game didn't give you medic card first, just roll

[jovial nest]

gotcha

Hmmmm

[peak cloak]

ofc, Amiya caster is just a core caster ,not Aoe one

[jovial nest]

lemme try going for 3

2 AoE medics

[bright pilot]

Wait whats the different between DEFENDERS and GUARDS?

[jovial nest]

and Reedter

[vernal lion]

I mean, Perfumer is relevant here

[jovial nest]

guards are less tanky but have more damage potential but that's the generalized meaning

[neat skiff]

First and foremost. Guards are a super varied bunch.

[jovial nest]

my best 2 AoE Medics are NG and Ptilo

there will be defenders that have more DPS than most guards

and some guards that are built to tank

[neat skiff]

But defenders are typically "block 3 and deal low single target damage" (typically, later on there are several who do not follow that.)
Guards are typically dps operators.

[vernal lion]

the medic equipment is cracked

the white bar is barrier, yes

[bright pilot]

I meant the logo on the character, defenders is the one with shield yes? how about guards?

[neat skiff]

Guard = sword.

[jovial nest]

wow so the strat is to go sniper on them

to spam it hard

[bright pilot]

Ah

[jovial nest]

that would make me no longer require to bring Mudrock and Penance

go for a Gavialter carry

[bright pilot]

Okay okay

Thank you

[neat skiff]

The best thing you can do is not rush and build your base.

[jovial nest]

hmmmm

since I want healable carries on Raythean

[bright pilot]

How about this format?

[jovial nest]

Gavialter, Mlynar, Irene i guess

Penance and Mudrock will have to step down for now

[vernal lion]

don't need Beehunter earlier

[neat skiff]

I would not use beehunter, but otherwise pretty good for early on.

[vernal lion]

that archetype is pretty defended on level

[bright pilot]

What if I changed beehunter with vanilla?

[neat skiff]

Beehunter is a type of guard that has low stats but rapid attack speed. She is pretty much always underwhelming.

[vernal lion]

you only focus on classical archetypes

[jovial nest]

btw

[neat skiff]

They're level 4.

[jovial nest]

Raythean....

Should I go Reedter S2.

I'm using the overheal barrier

[celest bluff]

Raytheon missile

[bright pilot]

Was thinking either Vanilla or Courier to boost my deployement thingy

[neat skiff]

So, Vanilla and Courier are special vanguards. They block 2 but have different strengths.

[bright pilot]

Right

[neat skiff]

For the pioneer vanguards.
Offensive = Vanilla/Scavenger/Texas.
Defensive = Fang/Courier/Zima

3 star/4 star/5 star.

[bright pilot]

Okay then I'll changed it with Courier then for now

Im gonna continue play the game, thank you Naga and Khold

[vernal lion]

some map has rush, some map doesn't

but s2 is still safe to use

[neat skiff]

I highly suggest you look into your base. It gives you almost passive money and experience.

[jovial nest]

yeah S2 has the most insane method to overheal

[vernal lion]

I remember stage 4 and 6 have heavy rush

[bright pilot]

Ill keep in mind thank you

[vernal lion]

you can also use Reedic s3 for boss stage,
since the enemy spam in here is insane

the boss itself is useless tho

[jovial nest]

going with this.

[vernal lion]

all good, only stage 3 has heavy armor dude

and stage 5 has tree men

but you can just leak 2 of them

[bright pilot]

Can I add you two ingame btw? @vernal lion @neat skiff

[vernal lion]

ok if you need any help, just ask me
VanGuard#8304

[eager gate]

hey is s1 Yato still ok on ex kristen

[vernal lion]

you mean ball

[eager gate]

I mean dpsing through the boss itself

[vernal lion]

then nope

[eager gate]

What if I warfarin her

[vernal lion]

let me phrase this, when the boss has balls, she gets damage reduction,
and it's stacked multiple

so if you can get rid of the ball, the boss is nothing

[neat skiff]

Her DR stacks multiplicatively. 30%, 51%, 65.7% for normal.
35%, 57.8%, 72.5%, 82.1%, 88.4%, 92.5% for CW-EX-8 and CW-S-4.

Without her DR then trash mobs have more stats.

[eager gate]

boy

what an ass of a boss

[neat skiff]

"Do the damn mechanic" the event.

[vernal lion]

the thing is, it's not only DR, but combine with def and res stat,
this boss is the most anti-dmg in game

[eager gate]

I guess it's true

[neat skiff]

Like how gravity can slow down enemies and give a big aspd boost to allies, or the opposite.

[vernal lion]

I feel like my 7000 atk Monster will deal like 700 dmg on CW-S-4 tho

[neat skiff]

He will.

[vernal lion]

or even less

[neat skiff]

Kristen DR applies to true damage.

[vernal lion]

yea

and I though halving the dmg from Talulah is the worst, but now we have this

[eager gate]

at this point it feels like level design team is trying to win the imaginary war with players

[neat skiff]

Always are.

Like Dossoles holiday was during PEAK "arts damage is all ass, phys damage is the only type worth using".
Then the event comes out and phys damage is useless with E0L20 Amiya out killing the top meta units.

[vernal lion]

the enemy design is like,
mob has physical dmg dodge rate, and also has decent res stat

[noble pewter]

but wasnt dossole full of those cars n robot ppl who needed arts to kill

[neat skiff]

Packed to the brim.

Sky high def, low or no res.

[vernal lion]

then we have IC,
mob has fully physical dodge for awhile, and has decently high res stat

[noble pewter]

whats ic

[neat skiff]

Ideal city. Gavialter event with the drone boss.

Drone boss was some delightful salt.

[eager gate]

ic was still awesome cause it had like the most fun mechanic the game ever had

[noble pewter]

oh wait the cars n robots was ideal city, not dossoles, dossoles was sailors n boats

[neat skiff]

I still need to E2L1 Minamilist for my base. 243 ftw.

[storm current]

Kristen is still fairly easy

Cuz you can just stall

[eager gate]

plus ic was a really rare comedic event. I'm pretty damn sure last event before Gavial2 that was more comedy than drama was... Gavial1

[storm current]

Meanwhile SL boss tho

Lmao

[eager gate]

Yato does pretty ok when warfarin'd

[vernal lion]

I mean SL is another of NL

[storm current]

all mechanic just to fuck you up ye

[noble pewter]

huh, nearl light? why so

[jovial nest]

hmmmmm, I'm thinking SP?

[storm current]

because its very newbie unfriendly

and literally punish all players

very annoying and obnoxious

[neat skiff]

Global anniversary events are never newbie friendly.

[storm current]

if you dont follow the mechanic

you literally do no dmg

[eager gate]

uuuuhhh whats sl

[storm current]

like

so long adele

[eager gate]

oh isn't that the next new thing

[storm current]

the mechanic is basically splatoon
enemies deal 50% more dmg to you and take 75% less dmg

if you dont manage the cloud

[vernal lion]

sp if you use skill regularly,
but +atk is good when come to burst enemy

[eager gate]

amazing, another piss-you-off event, 3rd in a row

[storm current]

why?

CW is actually tame

[jovial nest]

my cores are so skill spammy. SP it is

[storm current]

compared to the fuck fest of SL

[neat skiff]

Rerun then SL. though that also relies on the global schedule being lazy and adding in like 6-7 dead days.

[vernal lion]

don't get me wrong, mob in CW is the most ass for now

[neat skiff]

Nah.

CW is a buttload of fun when you follow the mechanic.

[storm current]

ye

CW is very easy if you follow the mechanic

since enemies dont stat check

[neat skiff]

Like, I still wish CW was main story and not side story.

[storm current]

they die if you attack enough

also

[noble pewter]

so this SL is like no one do 3* rarity op clears anymore or sth?

[storm current]

you have a mechanic that kill stuff

uh

the "low rarity" guide

use both mlynar and pozy

so good luck

[noble pewter]

no cool ppl like iloveamiya or china bilibili players that use only 3* then?

[storm current]

magenta cloud: spread by enemies death, from enemies attack, or from enemies walking
similar to netherbrand tile
when farted on allies, they take art and burn dmg
allies within the cloud take 50% more dmg, enemies within the cloud take 75% less dmg

pure white cloud: spread by special device, the opposite of magenta cloud
enemies take 50% more dmg, allies take 75% less dmg while inside white cloud
The thing is, enemies can spread magenta cloud whenever they want, but our pure white cloud is limited by device count
So if no proper resource management, you are dealing with hell

[neat skiff]

Amiya still does some 3 star stuff, but has branched out into "launch 4 stars" for a tad more variety.

[storm current]

enemies are very obnoxious as well

[vernal lion]

ok so you know how to bypass this, using pusher tho

[neat skiff]

Especially since the strats are incredibly similar.

[storm current]

you are looking at multitarget casters

invisible speedy

[vernal lion]

and weedy is relevant in SL

[storm current]

and flying

also

enemies can 1 tap you

lmao

[neat skiff]

Weedy is a ton of fun. Especially since S2M2 and below still yeets enemies on boss stages.

[storm current]

there are 2 kind of elite enemies with the mechanic of "first attack"

[neat skiff]

Oh, for SL. Reading comprehension fail.

[storm current]

big dude will deal a massive physical hit and spawn a regular melee mob

art big dude will deal a massive aoe art hit that splash and spread magenta cloud

[noble pewter]

n all these enemies... r cute sheeps?

[vernal lion]

are SL mob still flying if you stun them, or they will return to fly just like jetpack dude in CW?

[storm current]

both deal ~2000 dmg

so lol

[storm current]

no

they drop down

the flying is like

the balloon zombie from PVZ

doesnt attack when flying

[vernal lion]

so it's just like first activation

[south bone]

[storm current]

and if stun/freeze/sleep, drop down and melee

however

[neat skiff]

So like chapter 9 hoverboards.

[storm current]

there is another mechanic

they can "merge", or "jenga"

for example

[vernal lion]

ok I understand

[storm current]

speedy skateboard has stealth

when combine with melee mob, wiill spread magenta on anywhere it walk

[neat skiff]

Totally, lets save that headache for future us.

[storm current]

balloon sheep when combine with range mob will shoot while flying

[vernal lion]

so basically, the flying one, will carry the other sheep,
but if they are down to the ground, they won't go up again
right?

[storm current]

yes

[vernal lion]

just like hover dude

[jovial nest]

already this far ahead. Raythean is pretty easy if you got the ops ready

[storm current]

thats before we talk about the boss too

[vernal lion]

and flying stingray

[jovial nest]

just stacking NG, Ptilo and using active item

[storm current]

ye but sting ray is slow