strategy

[waxen swan]

Is me mario

[boreal magnet]

plumber

[glass monolith]

Hard IS2 + Emergency + Survivist

[waxen swan]

Did you die

[glass monolith]

How the fuck do i survive without E2 Mudrock + Perfumer start?

[waxen swan]

Just don't die dud

[glass monolith]

Jetpacks has like 800 ranged ATK on steroid speed while i degen

[waxen swan]

Just leak 5 and never leak again

[glass monolith]

My team on that screenshot is E2 La Pluma and some random shit

[waxen swan]

Good enough

[vernal lion]

this looks like bullshit lol

[celest bluff]

Great, now what
LOSE EVEN MORE FUCKING LIGHT?

[vernal lion]

that's for ed3

[waxen swan]

Imagine carrying for what light you on

[celest bluff]

Mf I have the knight on my ass

[waxen swan]

Don't take it than

[jovial nest]

ah yes the true man's ending, TLK floor 5 boss, and then go to floor 6

soon the true man's ending is TLK floor 5 boss

and Mizuki floor 6 boss

[jovial nest]

let him die

[celest bluff]

Wait I can do that?

[jovial nest]

[vernal lion]

bullshit goes brrr

[jovial nest]

if you're a maso

only counts for what ending is in floor 6

whatever boss is in floor 5 doesn't count

[vernal lion]

you can keep Last Knight alive till floor 4,
then just let him die to ball

bullshit

[tropic valve]

(it will happen naturally)

[glass monolith]

Who the F are that enemy

[vernal lion]

flying stingray

[jovial nest]

ok wth are you guys on about? My auto still stuck with its old Pioneer portions.

that CW auto must've failed cause of SKEEL TISSUE

[celest bluff]

Nah fuck this shit I going to sleep

[deft badger]

dude i don't get how to move that stupid balls...

sometimes they move sometimes they just dont

[celest bluff]

You slap a pusher in

[south bone]

push the ball to the right

[south bone]

I struggled more with that EX-4 challenge than the EX-5 ngl

[vernal lion]

deploy your Gladiia or Eyja on the left of the ball, facing right

[south bone]

Btw is the changing gravity challenge also count if it's from the enemy?

[deft badger]

how do i push that stupid ball up i don't want it to go down

...

[vernal lion]

yes

[vernal lion]

huh?

you have to shoot the ball bruh

[deft badger]

i did bro

[vernal lion]

just like football

[south bone]

I see

[deft badger]

it went down

[vernal lion]

[south bone]

the screenguards keep stepping on the button 😭

[vernal lion]

because of gravity force ofc lmao

[south bone]

have u changed the gravity to up with the button

[vernal lion]

physical belike

[deft badger]

nvm now i know how that thing works xD

[tropic valve]

Newton moment

[vocal leaf]

is there a challenge related to ex-8?

[vernal lion]

Law of Universal Gravitation

[south bone]

no challenge for ex-7 and ex-8

[vocal leaf]

oh i will clear it today then, thanks

[vernal lion]

basically, you are inside a spaceship (for example),
the spaceship has gravity generator, that will only occur in one direction,
you have to push the button to change the direction of gravity as you want

that's how this event work

[deft badger]

i try not to tuch the balls

if i don't have to xD

[celest bluff]

Just imagine a floor but it can tilt to a side

[deft badger]

bro up goes up

down goes down

u don't have to imagine anything xD

at least Naga explained what they did try to recreate

[celest bluff]

Ever play IXION?

This isn't it

But yeah I like that one

[deft badger]

trying to do this-.-

[vernal lion]

it's very easy tho

[glass monolith]

Fucking try NOT to do this

DV robots run at you like FNaF Foxy

[celest bluff]

Funniest shit I ever done

BALLS

Oh and by the way

[vernal lion]

now just need Mangle to hang on top of your op

[celest bluff]

Those guy that reduce block count? Yeah they can be silence

[deft badger]

meanwhile also me

[celest bluff]

Show comp

Mf I need to know how

[glass monolith]

Only thing which pains me is fact than i do "no 6*" self challenge so i can't just Weedy S2 or whatever to make second lane in EX-1 not existant

[tropic valve]

I can kinda relate

which is why I usually do "one 6*" instead

and you probably know which one

[deft badger]

nothing special, i did blow up my own team in the end since i didn't wanna do balls

just slaped the boss when the last add was walking xD

[tropic valve]

or, "the 6* I most recently finished masteries on, +1 free 6*, and no others"

[tidal sedge]

I require assistance, cw ex 8 is beating my ass

[deft badger]

and everything died on my end dropped texas on the last add that's it

i don't have a pic from cm but did the same like in this one just with skalter and supercharger for mlynar 😄

[tidal sedge]

Current issue Is I take too long to kill Kirsten and then she nukes EVERYBODY. What can I use to mediate this

Once I DO kill Kirsten all those arts avengers fuck everybody else up

[celest bluff]

I have no abyss hunter, no thorn, no Ines, no lumen, mylar can be borrow

[tidal sedge]

should I actually be using my weedy to hold one of the sides?

The one wherever artsvengers spawn

[deft badger]

didn't use thorns in cm, ines just to bind, lumen to heal
as far i care right side can do a caster + mud

[celest bluff]

Okay tomorrow will be the last inspection

[tidal sedge]

Yes I can take care of right side, I can't take care of left side

[vernal lion]

the balls in this map are useless ngl tho

[celest bluff]

Ya need to kill the balls or die tho

Only thing it is good for is roadblock

[glass monolith]

Do both

[vernal lion]

keep your balls alive

[proud mulch]

does the ball kristen summon after first phase at ex stage random?

[vernal lion]

no

they all have order

[proud mulch]

so its a four for sure?

i just die the moment kristen end first phase

[glass monolith]

Dude AFTER phase 1 she dominate all balls what we talk about?

[south bone]

Can't wait for S-4 where all the balls simultaneously explode

[proud mulch]

wait idgit

i just cant pass hard mode ex 8

;-;

[tidal sedge]

you actually beat ex 8?

[proud mulch]

ye but not hard tho

i dont have nightingle then the balls just explode

[storm current]

wait until you see S stages then

btw

[vernal lion]

and I just killed a 80% DR Kristen

[storm current]

you can silence kristen

[tidal sedge]

Yes, I know, except I can't burst Kirsten fast enough and she ends up taking all my balls

[vernal lion]

time to kill 90% DR Kristen in S-4 CM

this is CC content

[celest bluff]

Okay..., what does silence Kristen do exactly

[glass monolith]

I killed fucking Immortal in RA. What some Karen can do to me?

[storm current]

silencing her disable balls explosion

[tidal sedge]

Kirsten phase 1 it does nothing, Kristen phase 2 stops the mapwide nuke she does with the balls

[vernal lion]

except you can't block a 6 block Kristen lmao

[storm current]

its not that "it does nothing"

[south bone]

7 blocks tho right

[storm current]

more like she just immune to silence

[vernal lion]

oh yea it's 6 balls

7 block

[celest bluff]

Oh yeah control effect

[astral cosmos]

yow, I'm trying to clear the newest annihilation with my niche (see below) but I'm having huge trouble dealing with the stun casters. I can't even get to Gertrude...
I already tried baiting them with Kirara, but the reduced taunt is annoying. I've also tried relying on status resistance w/Aurora and Folinic, and I even tried to shift cancel them- to no avail... I either lack healing or damage, and the flux orientation + deployment limit are huge chokepoints...

I'm just looking for ideas on how to get around this

[tidal sedge]

wow. I love having my team comprised of all outdated ops. This is GREAT

[celest bluff]

Fuck it, poor man strat, I stall phase 1 Karen

[tidal sedge]

(not coping at all)

[storm current]

fyi
you dont need to cleanse
you can kill the stun aura

[tidal sedge]

She gets 5 block if she gets all the balls in ex 8 tho

[vernal lion]

time to Aak my GG and let her kill all the balls

[storm current]

@astral cosmos personally i run this set up ig

[astral cosmos]

my biggest issue here would be firewhistle, I've no options to deal with what comes out of the middle red boxes

[storm current]

you can deploy tequila here to bait the stun caster, this way bibeak/astgene can kill the aura for example

doesnt matter lol

just use any lane holder

[lone inlet]

dammit kristen the balls stealer

[storm current]

i just use firewhistle to deal with gertrude

but gertrude die to anything

altho

preferably they have aoe

like specter

to hold the 2 block golem

[tidal sedge]

Damn Kristen stealing all my balls

[astral cosmos]

from what im seeing here, i'm gonna get obliterated by the splash casters

[storm current]

nah

how splash caster work is that if they attack unbeamed ops, the attack splash

[astral cosmos]

yeah ik

[storm current]

but for example in this screenshot, splash caster will target astgene and texas, both are beamed so wont splash

[astral cosmos]

bottom side only has croissant in the beam, so one attack will go on lapp/quercus

[storm current]

its fine

you can deploy ambusher here to aggro the splash caster

at max range, splash caster only target crossant, which is no problem

oh wait

[astral cosmos]

reduced taunt tho

[storm current]

forgot, ambusher

i ended up not using anything tho

[astral cosmos]

that's why kirara is so annoying

i'm also likely to lack damage

[storm current]

might be because you raise some random stuff tho

[south bone]

I did this for the anni almost failed lol

[astral cosmos]

nah it's because of the niche itself lol

[storm current]

no

i used 5* only

and they arent even that bad

the units you raised are like

among the worst ever

[astral cosmos]

that's exactly the niche

my niche isn't 5* only

[storm current]

you prob can use savage

[astral cosmos]

I call it suicide squad, but you can call it forgottenknights

either way, yeah savage can go in the middle, hopefully she'll receive enough healing though. she folds like paper

[glass monolith]

I call my strategy "random bullshit go"

[storm current]

you have maxed healer

so they should be enough right

:clueless:

[astral cosmos]

if she has only one of those on her, she dies (i tried)

[neat skiff]

If you want a 5 star healer go Quercus.

[astral cosmos]

so hopefully two will be enough
at the only condition that they don't get too much pressure from splash casters

[astral cosmos]

can't use her. maxed her out tho for sure

[neat skiff]

Especially with her upcoming module she easily outheals those 6.

[vernal lion]

this is based af

[astral cosmos]

you had firewhistle to blow most of them up, but I'll get constant pressure from them

which is what usually gets me killed

[storm current]

weird that you dont consider firewhistle to be forgotten

[astral cosmos]

forgotten isn't the only factor

(that's why I don't like the term forgottenknights, it doesn't fully represent the squad)

she's a bit too overkill for the squad
which is also why I don't have Bibeak in there

[astral cosmos]

doubt this'll do since i already tried similar strategies, but i'll try and tell you, ty

[novel pivot]

kristen learning from damazti cluster in the ways of damage reduction

[vernal lion]

in stead of creating clone, she makes herself look big (7 block in CW-S-4)

[glass monolith]

#strategy message And i learned way of damage reduction so world is screwed

[novel pivot]

wat

[jovial nest]

I love that balls can help Thorns charge up even without enemies

[novel pivot]

playing ex 8 with a shifter

is like taking weights off your shoulder

daz what i get for trying to claw through mechanics

[jovial nest]

I'm waiting to get the last 2 pioneer powers at beta before i try

i want to see how easy it is to kick with all of it

[novel pivot]

whats the last 2 powers

[jovial nest]

one makes balls need less hits

the other makes it so it requires less force (push) to kick

[novel pivot]

im shifting the lightsaber dudes

not the balls

[jovial nest]

thats why you should keep note of the range

[novel pivot]

powers useless in this stage for me

[jovial nest]

balls have low priority on being attacked

make sure whoever takes care of the balls can only attack the ball

[neat skiff]

Last one is a further reduction in force needed.

[jovial nest]

so thats like -2 force

thats meaty

in beta

[novel pivot]

weedy with her cannon

so good

[jovial nest]

weedy's cannon might prioritize an enemy

[novel pivot]

i read stage mechanics and realized they all had less weight

[jovial nest]

its better to go for her S1

[novel pivot]

oh i was talking about ex 8

[vernal lion]

boss stage has light weight mechanism

[novel pivot]

geega

lightsabers and arc defender do so much damage

mon3tr can barely hold

[neat skiff]

Enemy stat creep.

[vernal lion]

just aoe dmg

[south bone]

use funni DoT

[frail wagon]

If only I have Weedy for a lane…

[novel pivot]

i should try mountain s3

[vernal lion]

I will probably use this strat in S-4, again

[jovial nest]

arc defenders hard?

have you read about them?

[novel pivot]

I just slap them with true damage

[jovial nest]

or not be stupid and use high ASPD with DoTs

[novel pivot]

or yat2 s2

[deft badger]

i think thats the best comp and easy

[jovial nest]

i use all of the above

Kal, Thorns, Ya2

bare minimum

[novel pivot]

that would require actual brainpower

[jovial nest]

i still bring Krooster

[novel pivot]

must braindead

Invoke whelpower

[vernal lion]

dot dmg is slow to break their armor lol

[jovial nest]

thats why i said both

basically...same principle with IW

so BP and Thorns as usual are great

i don't think Ethan will salvage that

[neat skiff]

Puzzle S2.

[jovial nest]

Ethan is purely IW

[novel pivot]

i kinda wanna screw around with res shred this stage

even though alr finished

[south bone]

Ethan is still good, tho not as good as he was in IW

[novel pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1058048947794489444.png?size=48

[turbid badge]

Crossiant s2 lne

[vernal lion]

and if you have noticed this

[turbid badge]

just use arts

[novel pivot]

amiya s3 user

[vernal lion]

me with my bullshit Amiya

[novel pivot]

ceobe

def scaling

[vernal lion]

that's fun

and I still miss that stupid dog

[novel pivot]

i tried against normal arcfender, dk her performance against red one

[glass monolith]

WV had CM stage with condition DEF risk 3 to highest DEF enemy in event. Ceobe was 6 hitting it

[novel pivot]

this is truly a dumb dog moment

[glass monolith]

Wait for POO for true story dumb dog moment

[jovial nest]

oh wow EX-3 CM really poured all the enemies

[novel pivot]

i dont know my acronyms

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1171002009638404196.png?size=48

[jovial nest]

I'm bringing Surtr for 1 lane

[vernal lion]

and then a risk with RES up

[jovial nest]

wait wait.

this is CM.

its fine if my ops die in CM

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=RyY_ENwLNCo&ab_channel=Tsalthsu%2F소은설

[neat skiff]

I do love that the devs gave up and just went back to CC.

[glass monolith]

You aware new CC has POO like risk selection and we don't know yet if there is no 1000% HP chapter 12 drone?

[proud mulch]

Wtf bro

i dont understand

the moment kristen end her first stage i die

ALL MY OPS DIE

YO WTH

[vernal lion]

imagine spending 4-5 hours just for a game

[neat skiff]

Only 4-5?

[glass monolith]

Kristen: IT IS BALLING TIME

[high crest]

She has like an aura of death when she died first time

[neat skiff]

Was the SN CC 8 or 9 hours?

[proud mulch]

ye i get that

[vernal lion]

how many balls have been corrupted by her?

[storm current]

8

[glass monolith]

Dude i played Battle Cats, some maps are literally turn on auto CPU and fall asleep

[proud mulch]

i dont know

[high crest]

Aura of death and an explosion when she died if I'm correct

[proud mulch]

maybe i should record it down LOL

[neat skiff]

So, when Kristen dies in phase 1 she pops all active balls.

Each ball deals global damage.

[proud mulch]

ya i understand that

[glass monolith]

Each ball explodes

[proud mulch]

i didnt see anyballs

[glass monolith]

Okay, record

[storm current]

700 normal, 900 ex yea

[high crest]

is this ex stage?

[neat skiff]

Otherwise you're dying to auto attacks.

[high crest]

Is this Kristen on ex stage?

[vernal lion]

this is your ball

this is her ball

and ex-8 has 4 balls

[neat skiff]

S-4 has 6 balls 😄

[jovial nest]

Oh god I just realized that I will be going full force again in IS3 in December

[high crest]

It has like a continuous explosion If I'm correct,also is yato s2 can destroy the balls in ex stage in one deployment

[jovial nest]

Ending 4...

and every new stage and relics will be out then

[glass monolith]

Ahhhaa.... No

[neat skiff]

Continual 3x3 grid of damage every second and on death releases a global splash explosion.

[jovial nest]

the only pro is

[high crest]

Cause I might use texalter and ya2 as a ball breaker

[jovial nest]

at least they released Deep Investigation earlier

[unkempt lintel]

yeah 4 ballz have most of my ops dead, while others in sliver of health... so now that i imagine 6 ballz....

[jovial nest]

so thats less of the grind than what i had to do for IS2 in a short span of time

[astral cosmos]

it kinda works,
the main issue is that I lack damage on botlane (no lapp eh) and I can't kill Gertrude

[high crest]

It will be like emperors blade lel

[vernal lion]

and for each ball explosion in phase 2, all enemies will get +10% mspd

have fun with +60% mspd in S-4

[high crest]

10 percent mspd?!

[vernal lion]

yea I don't joke that tho

[neat skiff]

Normal, EX and S all have that mechanic.

30%, 40% and 60%

[high crest]

S stages will be pain though cause 6 balls......

[tropic valve]

poggers

S stages gonna be fun

[eager gate]

Why couldn't they make a normal corner on a level with a designated enemy hole

[vernal lion]

because they know that lol

"keep pushing enemy to the hole" is like the cheap and easiest way to win in Arknights

[eager gate]

But their corner is ass so enemies don't actually get pushed into the hole

[neat skiff]

I'm surprised there are no holes in the boss stage given Kristen weighs 10.

[vernal lion]

even that, Kristen has been coded to not be pushed

unlike Bloodknight

kekw

[tropic valve]

kekw

dude didn't get to do phase 2 thanks to hole

[neat skiff]

Which would make her the second stagger immune ground boss.

[glass monolith]

Reason i shoperatored Weedy and still didn't regret it

[neat skiff]

First being Mandragora.

[glass monolith]

BSL being sad and big and maybe lock

[vernal lion]

BSL doesn't need to be blocked,
he just needs to snu snu all your op with his size

[neat skiff]

Wait, my mistake. Kristen is the 3rd boss who is stagger immune. Mudrock then Mandragora were before her.

[astral cosmos]

welp that didn't work... maybe I can put kirara next to savage to bait the stun casters

[storm current]

Uh

[astral cosmos]

then again im not sure she can pally for my lack of dps on botlane

[deft badger]

@vernal lion i want a video of ur run 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10y80vV98ZQ&t

my disaster run

[storm current]

Top lane doesnt exactly work

Aurora still block 1

[astral cosmos]

surprisingly, it does

[storm current]

Actually

Yea

Its fine

She still leak the 2 block golme

[astral cosmos]

Aurora blocks 3 on s1

[storm current]

Its mainly the golen that matter

I guess you can do the same for mid lane too

[astral cosmos]

and has status resistance so the stun casters aren't an issue

[storm current]

Use a 1 blocker in midlane

[astral cosmos]

Midlane is fine actually, savage holds up pretty well

it's bottom lane that's problematic

[storm current]

Because 1 blocker wont block the golem

Thus they will get beamed

You can prob use flamebringer

I assume you raised him already

[astral cosmos]

nah don't have flamebringer in here

[storm current]

Lul

[astral cosmos]

yet (?)

[storm current]

1 blocker should work in mid tile, face down

[astral cosmos]

not sure if I should raise him for that,
anyway, the only issue is bottom lane

[storm current]

Just

Deploy the middle 1 blocker last

So to bait the stun

As long as they are tanky enough for tuba

It should work

[astral cosmos]

kirara should work too

[storm current]

You have dadga

Well

1 block has regular taunt

Kirara has negative taunt so

I prob try dagda first

[astral cosmos]

i'll try that, but this doesn't really fix botlane

the stun caster will target dagda first, then shalem anyway

[storm current]

Pretty sure

Its just dps issue prob

[astral cosmos]

it is

[storm current]

Wait

Cant you just use broca instead ?

Cuz more dps

[astral cosmos]

he isn't there

(yet)

[storm current]

Still bad cuz art

But still aoe

[astral cosmos]

because shalem is my main dps on botlane lol
if he's stunned it's over

[storm current]

Yea no

Doberman isnt cutting it

Shouldnt you have like

Ayerscape or whislash

Idk

Feel like there are still viable forgotten units

[vernal lion]

my run is very different from yours

[deft badger]

i know thats why i wanna see it xD

how did the camp mid work that's what i wanna see

[astral cosmos]

nop

[jovial nest]

hmmmm, time to go back to backpack battlers

[astral cosmos]

they're on my priority list, but im very poor

[storm current]

Prob because you literally max level all of them

[astral cosmos]

most of my dps is ranged, and this stage is the definition of anti-ranged lol

[storm current]

Also

[astral cosmos]

that's the reqs for the squad, everyone who gets there must be e2 max m6 mod3

[storm current]

You can use sesa or another dps on paprika slot

[vernal lion]

ok I will record the CM one too and then I will ping you

[storm current]

And change healer position probably

Oh

Cant help with resource management

[astral cosmos]

ye

paprika could probably be positioned on bottom side, but I just hope dobermann will take damage so that she can heal the dps op

but splash casters should allow that (hopefully)

[median cedar]

what's the requirement for the pusher operators to have the planetary debris to actually shift?
i got most of my pushers to have lv4-lv7 skill but all of them can't push the balls

[astral cosmos]

the other issue is this dps getting distracted by midlane enemies

but hopefully dagda can kill them in time

[proud mulch]

FK EXMODE

IM OUT

[storm current]

Must be force 2

In otherword, m3

There is a bonus modifier that reduce required force tho

[astral cosmos]

(this is valid in global but not in CN due to ||Almond||)

[bold lance]

This is not valid because S2s exist

[proud mulch]

not having suzuran and nightingle is killing me

[copper estuary]

how would you deal with cw-ex-8 cm?
All my units die when the boss start its second phase, is it completely neccsary to destory all the pulsing orbs in order to survive the second burst ?

[neat skiff]

Each orb burst is 900 damage.

In EX 8 and S 4.

3 orbs at once is 2700 damage.

I'm 99% sure the stellar ring explosion is true damage but can't find any confirmation.

Oh, it's apparently arts damage.

Also, if you silence Kristen then she won't detonate the rings.

[glass monolith]

Naga says silence removing explosion only true at phase 2, phase 1 Karen above game code

[neat skiff]

Ahh, true.

[noble pewter]

Ya just burst her down while she in lappland range phase 2, she won't able trigger explosion at all, as in phase 2 she lose all her immunities to stun, silence etc, in phase 1 she is immune to all that

[neat skiff]

Phase 1 immune to stun, silence, sleep, freeze and levitate. Phase 2 immune to nothing.
Though she is completely immune to stagger so no pushing at all.

I'll deal with that ball of fun tomorrow after the last of the missions.

[south bone]

Gummy sweep fr

[tidal sedge]

How can the enemies step on tiles and switch if i already have a unit there? I thought it has something to do with block so I dropped Cuora and used her skill for 4 block but it changes nothing.

[south bone]

I'm assuming she was hit by one of the mob that reduced anyone's block to 0 if they're on gravity tile

[tidal sedge]

the block down guys? on normal stages they reduced block and the unit would still hold it down

[vernal lion]

@deft badger

man this stage looks like a circus

[south bone]

How did Kristen survived the true dmg from buffed Mon3tr

[crisp bolt]

damage reduction seems to work on true damage

[vernal lion]

her DR can reduce true dmg tho

[crisp bolt]

even though it's not listed

[south bone]

Hoo

I never knew

[vernal lion]

but the reason I still use it because it bypass the def and res

[neat skiff]

Her DR stacks multiplicatively. 30%, 51%, 65.7% for normal.
35%, 57.8%, 72.5%, 82.1%, 88.4%, 92.5% for CW-EX-8 and CW-S-4.

[vernal lion]

yep, I just murdered a 80% DR Kristen

[neat skiff]

So with 4 rings active she had 82.1% DR.

[south bone]

Almost 100% on S-4

[sterile isle]

She fucking invicible

[vernal lion]

wait until I do this again in S-4 lmao

[sterile isle]

I have better time fighting with a red golem

Btw How I gonna tank Elemental dmg in H12-3?

[tall sierra]

Fun boss fight

Must destroy 1 ball else hoshi cant block her

[neat skiff]

Always a fun sight to see opening a stage.

S 4 CM

[south bone]

[tall sierra]

It out already?

[south bone]

Nope

[neat skiff]

Nah, next week ish.

[tall sierra]

U dont

Eh

[sterile isle]

Is there a method to receive elemental dmg less?

[tall sierra]

Nope

[south bone]

Is the enemy weight also decreased here?

[tall sierra]

It kill or be killed

[neat skiff]

Not yet in global.

[sterile isle]

Unless Mulberry S2?

[tall sierra]

Even mulberry wont save u when all his clone come

[neat skiff]

Wait, yeah Mul S2 does reduce it.

[vernal lion]

you tank nothing, unless you play AH,
it's better to replace your blocker,
or just go full bullshit bursting dmg

[sterile isle]

That boss has D?

[sterile isle]

DMG reduction completely tank like a champ

[vernal lion]

but if you hit 3 clones with aoe dmg, it counts as x3 dmg to them

[sterile isle]

What's "AH" ?

[glass monolith]

AH is Skadi Specter Gladiia club which specializes at being balanced

[tall sierra]

Whoops

Oh well

[deft badger]

ty

[tall sierra]

Coz i skip all stories so dunno if the boss was a dude or girl

From chibi

[glass monolith]

#strategy message In case you don't believe AH is balanced

[neat skiff]

Dzamati cluster?

[tall sierra]

Yes

[deft badger]

was thinking about buffing and de-buffing but in the end i was to lazy to do, did try the same thing i did in normal and yeah it did work out in the end...

i have to m3 that texas s3 skill that dmg is stupid u did there

[south bone]

They are neither boy or girl, but this is not the channel to talk about it

[narrow elk]

What level do you need to be to clear the baseline event this time?

[vernal lion]

Damazti is the failure of creation

[neat skiff]

Dzamati cluster is shapeshifting slime. It become anything and everything it needs at any given point in time.

[tall sierra]

Anyway just now in cw ex8

[vernal lion]

yea, slime doesn't have gender

[tall sierra]

NG was sliver of hp to dying when i destroy 1 ball

[south bone]

Is the ball explosion dmg increased on CM as well?

[vernal lion]

the reason why it can deal armor break dmg to your op

[tall sierra]

Coz taking 1 hit and explosion at same time

[boreal magnet]

finally, all hail Britania!

[tall sierra]

Yes

Normal took like 40% ng hp i think

[sterile isle]

I can not see the use of pulling enemy toward

[tall sierra]

CM take like more than half of ng hp

[sterile isle]

Sanctuary buff also not help?

[tall sierra]

Elemental dmg also see boss atk stats

[vernal lion]

I mean, your only "def" left is DR and Sactuary

[neat skiff]

Also, looking ahead at some of the S strats, I'm totally doing Weedy S2.

[deft badger]

u are still doing that s- 😄

[glass monolith]

Well we will find one then

[sterile isle]

That actually reduce elemental dmg?

[tall sierra]

3 clone is deadly,there no way to defend elemental dmg from dat

[boreal magnet]

my ass get kicked several times, i end up maxing Cardiggan for more tank slot lol

[tall sierra]

Unless u use NG cage bait

[boreal magnet]

now i can focus on ex stages

[sterile isle]

I saw you use them, i thought you can tell me the reason

[vernal lion]

because the elemental dmg is based on its type of dmg,
the corrosion dmg is physical dmg, so yea

[sterile isle]

I might have replay "that tutorial" again

[tall sierra]

If h12-3 is annoying u should see h12-4 xD

[sterile isle]

If i know how "ED" works, i would have chance to success

[tall sierra]

Took me many try to clear dat coz sometime someone just die randomly out of nowhere

[neat skiff]

It helps that you're doing the stage after Kals second mudule released.

[sterile isle]

ED fucked me up since corrosive dmg exist

And The IS3

[tall sierra]

Is3 is less punishing tho

[sterile isle]

Yes

Can't argue with that

[boreal magnet]

me who struggling on h12-2

[sterile isle]

Each op has their Elemental hp separate from the actual hp

So

"their Elemental hp based on what?"

[neat skiff]

It's a percentage of damage inflicted.

[vernal lion]

the build-up dmg in h12-3 is 50%
the elemental dmg hp is 1000,
and boss atk is 750 x 1,2 = 900,
so if the boss hit an op with 300 def for example,
that op will take (900 - 300) x 0,5 = 300
and that is 300 / 1000 of the elemental dmg hp

[sterile isle]

It's a percentage?

Not a number?

So all op has the same elemental hp

[neat skiff]

Yes.

All ops have 1000.

[tall sierra]

But u cant block it for long as the corrosion will slowly build up on ur ops after p1

[storm current]

Well

Not directly

Its atk scale

Not dmg scale

[glass monolith]

OUR elemental damage is % of damage we did
THEIR elemental damage is % of their ATK which fucking ignores everything

[storm current]

Eh no

Our is still atk scale

[neat skiff]

First one not so much. Eben is damage he does. Ritualists are attack based.

[near folio]

Do I need level 2 push to instantly push a ball in lonetrail?

[sterile isle]

Yes

[neat skiff]

Without any force reductions, yes.

[near folio]

I see

[glass monolith]

OUR is atk DONE scale
THEIR is atk scale
We can't dodge/block with operators skills/talents
Enemy dodge/block abilities don't give a f-

[sterile isle]

My hoshi has a whopping 1300

[storm current]

Ritualist and diamante are atk scale iirc

[neat skiff]

Yup.

[glass monolith]

But i like how flametail dodge still procs on damage done when elemental bullshit reaches 1000

[sterile isle]

I remember you told me that def doesn't matter

[glass monolith]

Because everything is Arts which don't care about DEF and RES is lie

[tall sierra]

Hoshi having high def wont last long as the corrosion build up the longer u stall

[neat skiff]

Ritualist supporters and primal casters it's based on their attack.
Eben delta module and ops under Virtuosa S2 are based on their damage dealt.

[storm current]

Hoshi still has dmg block so

Still tankier than other defender

[tall sierra]

Yes hoshi has dat chance to take 0 dmg

[storm current]

No khold

[vernal lion]

I mean, in h12-4, any op just got nerf because of 80% atk scale from boss

[storm current]

Viruosa s2 is atk scale

[vernal lion]

that's 780 / 1000

[glass monolith]

Why fucking hypergryph can't stick to one this

[storm current]

And scale with her own atk

Not the ally

[sterile isle]

I have 2 wandering medic

[storm current]

So rosmontis inflict 3 times the necrosis with the shock wave

[neat skiff]

Ahh you are right. So it's just Eben delta that is damage dealt.

[glass monolith]

HER S2 IS "ALLY WITH HIGHEST ATK DO ELEMENTAL DAMAGE"

[neat skiff]

It will be interesting to see how harsh the elemental resistance enemies get.

[glass monolith]

100%

[tall sierra]

Sure hoshi can hold but what about other during phase 2

[storm current]

Eh

[tall sierra]

When boss summon funnels on every ops

[storm current]

They usually die ye

So you can either

Use much tankier tank

Like AH

Or replace defender

Or

Easiest solution

[neat skiff]

Not a chance the devs will leave "1 activation of Virtuosa S3 can proc 24000 "true damage" if the boss stays in range.

[storm current]

Wait until eyja alt

She will completely trivialize damatzi

[neat skiff]

Also, depending on who you ask H12-3 is worse than H12-4.

[vernal lion]

ugh

because of civiv rush

[neat skiff]

And "you lose 10 DP per bullet" sniper spam.

[storm current]

eyja with -60% elemental dmg reduction and 30% hp up

[glass monolith]

Activated my inner Papers please and checked them all

[glass monolith]

Next event with elemental damage boss with have boss do 4000 elemental

[vernal lion]

I did check them all kekw

15 x 2 = 30 dp

[sterile isle]

One hit and my def is forfeited

[cyan gorge]

2 pioneers + Gummy = 40 dp

[vernal lion]

doing "Paper pls" in this chapter 12,
the next chapter will be "Bomberman but it's ass"

because enemy is like zombie

[glass monolith]

Chapter 13 can't be that bad. See. Each stage is just 420/20 enemy count

Reapers will eat good

Probably

Or everyone die

[glass monolith]

Okay, everyone die

[neat skiff]

I really need to raise puzzle before then.

[glass monolith]

Enlighten me who the F need Puzzle except me and i still didn't do funny Stainless printer

Okay and balls with S2

[neat skiff]

His S2 is a 16 second DoT. It is great for the CH 13 censers.

[glass monolith]

Oh right, gimmick is push the payload

[neat skiff]

Keeps dealing hits to get it moving.

Plus fully stacked it’s like 750 arts damage a second.

[sterile isle]

Man, abjurer sanctuary is pitiful

[neat skiff]

Yup.

[sterile isle]

The best one is 15%

[storm current]

Technically

The best one is silence alt

[glass monolith]

"That shit stacks" - Sseth (With Stainless S3, AH squad buff... Well that's it, but like... STACKS)

[storm current]

But it scale up based on low jp

[sterile isle]

And fan fact, Musha module give like 25% (not enough)

[neat skiff]

Quercus remains the best abjurer simply because it relies on allies being high health and she heals like a mofo.

[sterile isle]

That guy marketing skill is unparalleled

[sterile isle]

She is "offensive" abjurer

[cyan gorge]

Silalter hits 72% sanctuary with s2

[glass monolith]

"Offensive" as only one with infinite healing skill

[vernal lion]

the boomerang archetype doesn't get debuff from aspd
now that is nice

[gilded scarab]

How much shift force does it take to shift a planetary debris and which operators/mastery levels can produce that level of shift? Moderate shift isn’t enough, I know that much

[neat skiff]

They "technically" do, but it's greatly diminished. Same as aspd buffs.

[neat skiff]

Have you been doing missions?

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1xaLw_cPOY&ab_channel=Dr.Silvergun

[glass monolith]

(Looks on Attack speed down 3 Nearl spending almost 6 seconds to cast S1)

[sterile isle]

I just open the wiki minute ago, i am sorry

[gilded scarab]

Yeah

Not the ones that require ex level completions tho cuz that just released yesterday

[neat skiff]

Yes. Aspd works on their attack windup but not the boomerang return speed.

[vernal lion]

yes

[copper estuary]

Finally

[sterile isle]

So 3.6 times of effective health

[sterile isle]

Juggernaut?

[copper estuary]

2

mud and pen

[glass monolith]

Need to be 30% of max hp to be on 72%

[copper estuary]

99 dp cost was something

[sterile isle]

What's their duty anyway?

[copper estuary]

mud on left, pen on the right

to hold the lane

mud can self sustain against the sword guys with skalter

and querous

monster top left

[sterile isle]

Lemme calculate rq

[sterile isle]

I hear "Hold the line" from my head

And sound like guardsman

[copper estuary]

that was a very painful stage

[boreal magnet]

somehow i feel this event raising middle finger to guardknight player

[copper estuary]

glad i will never need to do it again

[sterile isle]

They(HG) just want to "change the style"

[sterile isle]

That 1 yellow gem is worth the prize

[vernal lion]

ok this boss is the same to CW-S-4 Kristen phase 2 lmao

[sterile isle]

Gimmick or dmg reduction?

[vernal lion]

but at least it's not True dmg reduction

[sterile isle]

Map advantage is the thing tho

[neat skiff]

Super gimmicky.

The whole chapter is. Infinitely spawning enemies until the censer mechanic is dealt with.

[sterile isle]

It's 100% hp without sanctuary

[vernal lion]

basically, if you don't bombard their HQ, they will "bombard" you

[sterile isle]

Bro i play arknight, not a C&C

They expect us to have a Superweapon or something

[vernal lion]

when you play TD game mode inside a TD game

[copper estuary]

all for the goldne nugget

[sterile isle]

RTS in TD game

[vernal lion]

that's chap 10

[sterile isle]

They have, we haven't

[vernal lion]

but that thing can nuke them too

[sterile isle]

You goddamn genius

When we talk about the RTS, don't forget the car that explode

[vernal lion]

Arknights is a game when you take the idea from other games

[boreal magnet]

also they (HG) proceeds to release another Lane Holder

[vernal lion]

prove me wrong lol

[fierce meteor]

Is the stats good for a copy?

[sterile isle]

Which one is the OG

For the copy

[fierce meteor]

Penance

[sterile isle]

Any jugg type is good

[fierce meteor]

Don't have the barier but it's still good,my vanguard who use copy is only at E1 level 1

Just want to try her

[sterile isle]

She's tactician after all

But u know

Tactician summon is already beefy

[vernal lion]

her summon is just special

[fierce meteor]

She seems to be amazing

[cyan gorge]

For Muelsyes clones, you just want stats
talents and skill effects don't get copied

[fierce meteor]

Stats are enough

[sterile isle]

I've planned to use her in IS4

[sterile isle]

First tactician which has summon that can shoot

[neat skiff]

The "talents and skills don't matter" is a bit of a misnomer.

[fierce meteor]

Flexible summon,can be used as tank or DPS

[sterile isle]

Beanstalk's summon is beefy AF

[glass monolith]

Sounds like weird Advance Wars X AK collab

[sterile isle]

I surprised the first time when i use her in IS3

[fierce meteor]

The new 6 stars is better but beans is pretty good

[neat skiff]

Muelsyse copies stuff "when deployed".

Using Hoshi S2 and S3 with module.

So you can get the passive skill 2 def buff as well as the extra block from module.

[sterile isle]

Uh oh

[neat skiff]

Talents that are "always on" get applied as well.

[fierce meteor]

Her HP is pretty low

[neat skiff]

My Muelsyse is E0L1.

[cyan gorge]

So Horn and Nian atk/hp talent would be copied too?

[neat skiff]

Whatever an op would have "on deployment" is what the clone will get.

[cyan gorge]

[neat skiff]

Sec.

[sterile isle]

Many summon which can't be healed are compensated with better def and hp

[vernal lion]

it's only 1364 def and 50 res

ok get her mod now

[neat skiff]

With Horn deployed. Using Hoshi for the clone didn't apply the atk buff.

[fierce meteor]

The copy and the original nian

[neat skiff]

What rank is your Muelsyse?

[vernal lion]

100 RES LMAO

[neat skiff]

Oh wait. Nians talent wouldn't apply.

It's not "she gets max hp" it's "all defenders get max hp".

[fierce meteor]

E1

[neat skiff]

Like Skadi wouldn't apply as it's AH, but Specter would.

Ok, wtf. The clone has 80% of the HP. At E1 it should be 70%

[fierce meteor]

Idk if she is worth to E2 because I'm broke for now

[neat skiff]

The atk and def are the proper 70%

So it would appear the HP talent did apply.

In a weird way.

[turbid badge]

buffs that require the unit to be onfield doesnt apply

insquad buffs apply tho

schwarz and eyja mod w

2

and nian should apply

[neat skiff]

So yeah. "doesn't copy skills or talents" has caveats.

[fierce meteor]

So the best operator to copy is defenders if it's for tanking and big attack stats if it's for DPS

[turbid badge]

No

tanking just use

i dont think youll really need tanking

penance or a ah buffed spalter/skadi are really my only melee choices

[neat skiff]

Tanking does have its uses. Especially since "blocked enemies are stunned for the full duration".

For S3.

[turbid badge]

id rather just use a ranged clone

[neat skiff]

Yeah, ranged clones are pretty much the way to go.

[high warren]

Tips for Lin simulation

[cyan gorge]

No mod

[turbid badge]

ling?

oh that ones easy

Just

[fierce meteor]

I copy a juggernaut or a high Def operator

[turbid badge]

oh wait

U cant make 3

big dragons

[neat skiff]

It can be done with no module.

[turbid badge]

could be rough

but yeah

[high warren]

I made 2 big but small groups just passed in end

[turbid badge]

just deploy the dragons adjacent to ling and dusk

and have a dragon hold one of the

guys that drop 9 near the end

Its more of a skill timing

time skill for last wave 26/30

[high warren]

I just used skill whenever to get 5th

I save?

Or I just get module first?

🤣🤣

[turbid badge]

dusk just finishes them off

[high warren]

Oo

Thanks y'all

[latent anvil]

teta pro

give me some xp

[turbid badge]

nop

brok

[latent anvil]

[noble pewter]

maybe kroos got medicine sticks so she be "Nah, I'd win"

[cosmic thicket]

Clueless

[boreal magnet]

godamnit chongyus refuses to hit the ball

[vernal lion]

because the ball is -1 taunt tho

[fierce meteor]

She has ultra instinct,don't worry,she will dodge

[boreal magnet]

no wonder

[eager gate]

I wish that -1 taunt meant Irene wouldn't shoot it over the enemies

[boreal magnet]

i had to switch either s1 or s2 for this

[eager gate]

But I wasted 30 sanity rerunning one of the cms because the ball kept soaking damage and enemies were left alive

[glass monolith]

EX-1 CM when robots survive ball and leave with troll face

[turbid badge]

this ibcludes mumu clone

nooo

[lethal dragon]

Time to waste sanity

Permanent account DMG

[crisp bolt]

I'm getting scammed by ex-1

[boreal magnet]

s3 chongyus better, the ball is double edged sword

[fierce meteor]

Pretty easy

[crisp bolt]

the debris challenge trolling me

[boreal magnet]

my ex1 lmao

making sure rhe ball rotating

[crisp bolt]

my ex-1 was using the power of lin

but I need to do the challenge

these kind of maps is what the rat is made for

[turbid badge]

iwona attack canceling

w the aspd

kek

iwona lives

[crisp bolt]

rat gaming

[lethal dragon]

Real rat gaming

💪

[glass monolith]

Ultimate Rat experience 🐀

[crisp bolt]

god I remember that

I have a vid myself of that

[turbid badge]

dog park

[turbid badge]

i had the same thing

okg

but it was in this event

i forgot what it was

[crisp bolt]

RA

[glass monolith]

I hope RA2 will be fix all RA issues and let us have fun.... And farm goat for some reason

[turbid badge]

i think it was cuz of kristens bas

balls

idk

it kept pulsing like that too

[crisp bolt]

farming goats means less grinding for food

and 3 meat is one of the best foods you can use

[glass monolith]

But we don't know recipe changes for RA2

Outside part than food effect wears off now

[crisp bolt]

wait did food effects not wear off before?

I legit never knew

[glass monolith]

Yes RA food buff literally stays till end of run or you eat another

[sick patio]

stuck at cw-ex-7 for being a new player

[turbid badge]

Just use potion meta

100 aspd

[crisp bolt]

I'm behind on doing ex stages

I just got done with ex-5

[eager gate]

Can still do that in red cert farming stages

[polar crane]

you can but it not ticking that fast

[crisp bolt]

ok my brain is fried with ex-6

[wild quarry]

ex 8 is breaking me ladies and gents

[glass monolith]

EX-3

[wild quarry]

i cant even imagine the cm

[glass monolith]

O, hey, Puzzle talent activates on Ball hit

FUCK, EX-3 MISSION IS FRIENDLY UNITS

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[clever lynx]

If i managed to spend two hour of my life on the clear and did it at the end without going insane im sure youll get through it too

[wild quarry]

funny you should mention that, i wanna die rn

[clever lynx]

Youll get through it i believe

[latent anvil]

break the balls

[clever lynx]

That’s the thing in the first hour i tried to actually use the game mechanic to my advantage it didnt work out for me so i just suzu s3, mylar s3, reed alter s3, thorn s3, saria s3

and that leave her at 1hp

I had to drop texas alter and yato alter to finish her off 😭

[latent anvil]

exu just kill boss lol

burst phase1, let boss walk around while killing ball, burst phase2

[clever lynx]

That would be easy for me if i had build exu 😔

She’s e1 level 80

[latent anvil]

[clever lynx]

Sorry exu i gotta build specalter and mumu first

But i will try that when it get rerun 🫡

[wild quarry]

im gonna take a breather

my probelm is i cant break the balls faster than she can make new ones in her first phase

if i try to phase her first, i get nuked and left side collapses because im only using an e1 lv60 shaw

this ex stage is no god damn joke

[versed arrow]

you ppl are fast , meanwhile I finished ex4 and stop and is waiting for tomorrow investigation to see what the mission is

[glass monolith]

[grand raft]

WTF is this sh/t that's so random

Like clear every single stage 5 times

[glass monolith]

Clear any stage 5 times

If you think that's random, you will love mission going AFTER

[polar crane]

just farm aketon or alloy

[grand raft]

Oooooooooooooh I feel dumb

[wild quarry]

remind me what that one was

[glass monolith]

EX-3

[eager gate]

how much hp/def is ex Kristen?

[polar crane]

50k/800

[cosmic thicket]

when does kristen come out in EX-8

[cyan gorge]

Like the 6th or 7th enemy

[cosmic thicket]

oh ok

[latent anvil]

nah 9th or 10th

cuz when i see 8 deaths i put down exu to oneshot

[cyan gorge]

Idk, the moment I saw the boss pathing I dropped Surtr

[latent anvil]

wtfart surtr in cm

so much dp

[cyan gorge]

97 dp Surt on phase 2

[latent anvil]

[celest bluff]

I mean it work but

Balls

Am I good now

[flat sapphire]

No, u need to m9

[cosmic thicket]

s2m3 minimum

[celest bluff]

Motherfucker took my Guards™️, Defenders™️, hp, ATK™️, can't have shits in Detroit Trimounts

[glass monolith]

Don't forget remaining brain cells when tomorrow investigation will ask you to do EX-5/6 again (assuming you didn't miss a day)

[celest bluff]

Is it the last?

Today it is ex4 and 5

[tropic valve]

I was suboptimal and uncovered an EX early

so just EX-6 for me

[glass monolith]

EX-3 and EX-6 tomorrow for you

[tropic valve]

[glass monolith]

Maybe i should meanwhile do CMs..... WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN DEPLOY -2?

[tropic valve]

oh that one's not too bad

goes from 9 to 7

[glass monolith]

But deploying my shit is what i do

How much is BALLZ friendly fire damage?

[gilded scarab]

Who’s the best for schmackin’ the planetary debris?

[gilded scarab]

It’s not that bad when you have the investigation equipment thingy, idk the exact amount but it only hurts my maxed thorns by about half hp and my e2-80 saria by about 1/3 hp?

[glass monolith]

FUCKING BLACKNIGHT CAN SLEEP BALL

[vocal leaf]

they tripled their cost but that didn’t stop me from using saria and mountain

[celest bluff]

The fucking what

Okay so the balls can be silence

Sleep

[glass monolith]

At this point i won't be surprized with blacknight can sleep IC car

Most useless piece of intel - asleep ball can be pushed by Blemi

[crystal cargo]

didnt know balls could sleep

[glass monolith]

I'm more interested in Manticore being able to attack and hit asleep ball as it started moving

[tropic valve]

maybe a moving ball isn't sleeping

[cosmic thicket]

I think balls are coded as enemies

[celest bluff]

Ceobeo s2 is bad here

She target balls

Because that shit have higher def than everything

[glass monolith]

A-HA! (Pulls out Ambriel)

[turbid badge]

they can be slowed

i used feater s1

and the slow thing went across

it looked like skid marks lol