strategy

[tidal sedge]

Just call her Ho'ol.

[storm current]

Amiya is actually stronger than hoolheyak ye

[tidal sedge]

Hool

And uh

Yeah

Ho'ol

[crystal cargo]

ho'ol cant solo w

which is sad

[tidal sedge]

Is one of the worst 6 stars

The worst even

[crystal cargo]

vigil

siege

[storm current]

Eh

Respectively

[tidal sedge]

They have use

[crystal cargo]

ig worst 6 star has a new competitor

[storm current]

They are still better than lower rarity variants

[tidal sedge]

Hool doesnt

[turbid badge]

Ho’ol worse than vigil

[storm current]

Worst are fartooth and hool

[cyan badger]

Ok, I'll just replace Lin with Shira for now and call it a day. BluePoison, Click, Kroos, and Lin

[tidal sedge]

Anyway

I did ask a question..

[crystal cargo]

didnt know fartooth bad

[storm current]

Btw

Click is a girl

[jovial nest]

Fartooth was solid against Degenbrecher EX

[storm current]

She is a tomboy

[cyan gorge]

Farthoth is niche and harder to use but not Ho'ol bad

[jovial nest]

thats not a tomboy

[storm current]

?

Click is

[jovial nest]

ok which part is tomboy to you?

[crystal cargo]

one thing i find odd about click is when she attacks

[turbid badge]

most ppl can just use pozy/schwarz

[crystal cargo]

idk why she has to jump

[south bone]

Click is a tomboy?

huh

looks like a regular girl to me

[timid spade]

Yeah I had to get used to this when I was a new player as well.. Everyone is a girl... Except ansel, apparently

[storm current]

A lot of people confused click for a boy

Actually

[storm current]

Short hair

Manish

[tidal sedge]

Honestly

[storm current]

And hyperactive

[tidal sedge]

She gives Shonen protag vibes

[jovial nest]

thats called being a trap. a tomboy is a female acting like a boy

[tidal sedge]

So I can see it.

[storm current]

?

And thats what click is

[jovial nest]

what? being a streamer = boy?

[cyan badger]

Can I use Lin on my main team?

[turbid badge]

what is this discussion

[cyan badger]

Or is she niche

[tidal sedge]

She's worth it

[storm current]

Lin with s1 can replace aoe caster ig

[cyan badger]

Perfect

[storm current]

Altho she need e2 for module to be viable

[tidal sedge]

I came to ask about mumu

And ended up helping people

[storm current]

Ask again actually

[crystal cargo]

pretty far away for a new player

[tidal sedge]

Lol

[timid spade]

She needs her module to be really good, but she's usable from the get go

[storm current]

Didnt see the question

[cyan badger]

Yeah I'm nowhere near e2

letalone any content past that

[tidal sedge]

So uh I was wondering, does the goomu inherit arts guard arts attack?

[storm current]

You should e1 base slave and build base before first e2 btw

[turbid badge]

yes

[crystal cargo]

e2ing 6 stars is pretty easy

[storm current]

Yes, clone inherit dmg type

[turbid badge]

just use a caster

[tidal sedge]

Weird, I've been playing on my alt and it's been very underpowered

[cyan badger]

@storm currentWheat is Base Slave?

[turbid badge]

scales off level

muelseye level

[storm current]

You are right
Mumu is underwhelming lol

[tidal sedge]

She's lvl 50 e1

[noble pewter]

Is mumu herself phy or arts dmg?

[turbid badge]

fair, rn she does kinda sluckt

[tidal sedge]

Phys

[storm current]

E1 these guys
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1163703424567754763/image.png?ex=655c39c4&is=6549c4c4&hm=d7f6fe82547dfeda4a93b658caf30ef7aae04cc9a05dc33cf7db4bccb5316dbe&

[tidal sedge]

SHES MIDDD

But I love her

[turbid badge]

i borrowed s e2 muelseye and s3 ranged is honestly pretty dope

instantly clone

and bind

[cyan badger]

Ah, thank you!!

[storm current]

6* loopshooter will make her good

[tidal sedge]

S2

[storm current]

Trust

[tidal sedge]

Allows her range cloned

To attack

[timid spade]

./baseskills #bot-spam

[tidal sedge]

Like twice

[turbid badge]

yea attack twice?

[storm current]

S3 perma bind

[tidal sedge]

I mean

[storm current]

Which is overall better

[turbid badge]

perma bind more use

[tidal sedge]

2 separate enemies

[storm current]

Because clone cant be attacked

[tidal sedge]

TRUE

Overall s2 and s3 have the same skill cost

[turbid badge]

Anyways

[tidal sedge]

And same dp

[turbid badge]

Muelseye doesnt have a module

so,….

[tidal sedge]

So it's more so a case of

What u want

[turbid badge]

she has improvements real

[storm current]

Eh

Her talent is either

[timid spade]

I mean, at the end of the day she's still a vanguard, so I doubt it'll be anything game changing

[storm current]

90% stat => 100% stat or something

The other talent is -dp for rhine lab lol

[turbid badge]

lul , well we’ll see

[cyan gorge]

I e2'd Mumu but left her at lvl 1
what does she even offer besides fun factor?

[turbid badge]

also silalter healing e2 talent is only for operators right

[turbid badge]

PO

PP

base

[cyan gorge]

it works on summons too, and by extention juggernauts/reapers too

[crystal cargo]

maybe she can hold multiple lanes in certain maps

for low dp

idk

[turbid badge]

oh thats neat

[turbid badge]

just check AKrec

[crystal cargo]

whats ak rec

[tidal sedge]

Ok so quick question, Dorothy does arts damage right?

[turbid badge]

no

[cyan gorge]

Her mines do depending on skill, but Dorothy herself is pure physical

[vital arrow]

Only S3 does arts

Imagine a 1k atk arts dps with 0.85 atk interval

Dorothy putting every marksmen out of commission

[storm current]

You mean casters

If you meant art dorothy

[vital arrow]

Why not both

[storm current]

I wonder what kind of stat stick 6* loopshooter will have

And when they get their module

Prob something 800 atk and 2.5k hp

[celest bluff]

Fartooth fan when there is a massive map in reclamation algorithm

[crystal cargo]

If I put lin here could she survive with 1 healer

[storm current]

die

because nervous impairment deal true dmg

[crystal cargo]

Oh

[jovial nest]

also Phantom's damage is no joke

[tidal sedge]

Hi there. I try to step on green switch. But enemies are still go fast. What did I do wrong?

[jovial nest]

were they walking AGAINST gravity?

think of the gimmick like a see saw

[cyan gorge]

There are 3 gravity indicators

the boulder, the gauge on the left side of the screen, and look at the lit up buttons

use those and adjust gravity to slow enemies

[verbal sparrow]

I actually first tried this boss with just frd duo + buffs
well I was mainly into the story at that point anyway so I guess they made the decision not to interrupt us with boss battle

[ancient sky]

@deft badger @glass monolith
pog I cleared cw5 with your tips. its a little unstable for autodeploy but i can get 3 stars if i pilot it myself

[river atlas]

Are you farming cw5

[cyan gorge]

Might be new and can't clear CW6

[cunning river]

Can someone explain how the switches work? The in-game explanation makes no sense

[cyan gorge]

The lit switch is the active one

place an op with minimum one block on an unlit switch to change gravity

if a heavy enemy trips the unlit switch, it activates

also if a heavy enemy or op is on a lit switch, the gravity cannot be changed

[south bone]

^
Also you can pay attention to the left side of ur screen, where it indicated whether the gravity is going up or down

only 1 switch can be used at a time

[cunning river]

But that's not what they say on the tutorial stage though?

[cyan gorge]

The tutorial expects you to use visual cues to see the direction of gravity

like the color/text on the switch, the icon on the left side of the screen

[cunning river]

But they tell you that once your op is on the switch then enemies can't trigger it

But that's just a lie though

[cyan gorge]

No that part's true

[cunning river]

I just saw it not happen though

I had an op on the switch

Then an enemy stepped on the other and shifter gravity?

I feel this mechanic is poorly explained

[cyan gorge]

did the op have one block?

[cunning river]

It's one more block or more, right?

[cyan gorge]

You also can't change the gravity mid animation transition

[river atlas]

Did the op on the switch get hit

[cunning river]

What does that matter?

Cause that 100% wasn't brought up on the tutorial

[cyan gorge]

yeah those guys

[river atlas]

Because there’s an enemy that disables block

[cunning river]

I'm on the third stage, I don't think those enemies have even shown up

[cyan gorge]

If a heavy enemy is sitting on the other switch, it also doesn't swap

[cunning river]

God as they make the gimmicks more and more complicated, the UI problem grows worse and worse

[river atlas]

Idk what this has to do with UI

You can tell the gravity by this hugeass rock in the corner

If the rock is up then gravity is up, if the rock is down, gravity is down

[cunning river]

I was more talking about the mechanics and the like

Like you have all those interactions and ifs and ors or don'ts

And the most you get is six paragraphs of text in a tiny pop up window

[cyan gorge]

You say this about literally every new event

[river atlas]

The mechanics are simple

There are just enemies that do things

Each enemy has its little popup box when it spawns for the first time telling u what it does

[cunning river]

I say that about every single event cause the game keeps having this issue

And it's only getting worse

Also what's the point of having a weight relying mechanic when there's a generic mob that trivializes it in one hit?

[cyan gorge]

It'd be too easy if there weren't

[cunning river]

No, it'd be well designed if there wasn't

[river atlas]

Have u considered killing the dangerous mob

[cunning river]

Again, holy shit just hire actual game designers for crying out loud

[crystal cargo]

i like how there are 4 block enemies

[cunning river]

You mean the one that looks just like all the others?

Cause again

[south bone]

Damn

[cunning river]

The UI has a massive problem conveying information

[river atlas]

That sounds like u need new eyes then ngl

[crystal cargo]

i got pretty confused figuring out which gravity direction i was in at first

[cyan gorge]

then back out and read the description in full

[crystal cargo]

but then i got it

at like cw 8

[river atlas]

We got.. dogs that do nothing, knife guy, jetpack guy, and big beefy dude

[cunning river]

Two of those guys like pallete swaps of each other

[river atlas]

I sure hope you’re capable of telling the difference between a jetpack and a knife

Oh you’re not ok

[crystal cargo]

during jetpack stage i honestly just used chalter because i didnt want to deal with gravity

[outer sail]

Yeesh... Skadi can get 12k hp... Wonder what max is if you do stuff like Exu buff and whatnot haha. What a tank

[cyan gorge]

You can tell them apart immediately by their animations

[river atlas]

Jetpack + gun vs knife

Idk man

[cunning river]

Tell me that these two, from a distance with five things going on at the same time mid-game don't look exactly the same

I dare you

[river atlas]

Cope

[tidal sedge]

[crystal cargo]

what distance

[river atlas]

Sounds like skill issue to me

[outer sail]

Sounds like you need glasses?

[crystal cargo]

you cant zoom out

[cyan gorge]

Again, look at animations

[cunning river]

Sounds like Hypergryph should fucking hire game designers already

So yeah third stage and I'm already calling that this is going to be one of the bad events

[tidal sedge]

He needs a BIG magnifying glass to zoom in on enemy details

[outer sail]

Ah, I see now. Just a troll... Don't feed it

[south bone]

Holy shit dude

[river atlas]

Anyway please take your whining to #salt-mines

[south bone]

sounds like a 'you' problem

ngl

[river atlas]

This channel is for strategizing not coping

Unfortunately eyesight problems are not an issue covered by the channel

[outer sail]

Hey, seeing an eye doctor could be a viable strat if that's your bottleneck 😜

[cunning river]

My eyesight is fine

[outer sail]

Evidence suggests otherwise

[tidal sedge]

Sure troll guy

[cyan gorge]

Apparently not if you can't see the difference between a circle and a triangle

[cunning river]

If you have a bunch of generic enemies that do drastically different things and they look the same, that's a readability problem

Also again

[outer sail]

They don't look the same, that's an eyesight problem if you think they do. Or maybe a cognitive issue?

[cunning river]

Why have the mechanic at all if it's going to be trivialized stage 3

At that point just make the lanes static and be done with it

[river atlas]

Dont care

#game-feedback is over there

Please use the correct channel

[cyan gorge]

Anyways simple solutions to that are either kill the block reducing enemy sooner, or kill the enemy pressing the other switch

[river atlas]

Anyway

[crystal cargo]

so how do you make cw 8 auto reliable

for me it doesnt work

[limpid siren]

[river atlas]

What are you using

[crystal cargo]

2 ops for each ball lane, gravel for button pushing, eyja and mlynar for bots

[tidal sedge]

Show your entire operator roster

[crystal cargo]

This but instead of lappland I took myrtle

since lappland silences ball

or maybe the bot was there and i didnt notice idk

but anyways i cleared it with the team

but when i tried autoing it it failed twice

[river atlas]

All u should need is a fast redeploy and 2 caster

[crystal cargo]

i didnt lose because my ops died

[river atlas]

2 fast redeploy if u wanna play it safer

[crystal cargo]

i just didnt use gravel in time for some reason

in the auto

[river atlas]

Just spam buttons faster then to keep all the mobs in the center of the map and let caster kill them

[crystal cargo]

i used rock near blue box to do some damage

sometimes

[river atlas]

Yeah

[crystal cargo]

i timed it correctly

[river atlas]

So spam button faster

[crystal cargo]

ok

[river atlas]

If ur run cuts it too close and the auto drops a frame they’ll leak

[crystal cargo]

oh ok

[river atlas]

So just dont let mobs near the box at all

[crystal cargo]

so thats why

rng doesnt matter in autos right

[river atlas]

2 fast redeploys alternating button and a vg should keep everything in the middle

Eyja + a medic should be fine

Or mlynar solo

[crystal cargo]

i used eyja and mlynar to clear a lane and have the other path blocked

[river atlas]

It saves the rng

[crystal cargo]

in previous attempt

then when they got close i would switch it

but fast switching works better

[celest bluff]

ah fucking shit

the ball can be silence?

[river atlas]

What does silencing the ball do exactly

[celest bluff]

I dont know I just kill people

[crystal cargo]

it wont move

if you silence it

[celest bluff]

which stage have fastest clear time and best to farm

[crystal cargo]

cw 10 imo

[celest bluff]

2 min okay

but I have 100 alloy

121

[crystal cargo]

ive heard that the stages to farm are cw 8 9 10

im farming cw 10 because i dont wanna redo cw 8 to fix auto

[cyan gorge]

Aketon, solvents, and alloy respectively

[crystal cargo]

ill probably have to research what my ops need for masteries and skill levels

[celest bluff]

ermm 28 akenton, 47 solvent

[crystal cargo]

then do cw 8

[ocean jolt]

Ight I got a seemingly random question

I have quite a few vanguards lying around, and I dont know the meta so Im not sure which one is best to build

[storm current]

post screenshot

[velvet valve]

show us

[ocean jolt]

Before I get accused of being a communist, most of these were built to E1 well over a year ago before I knew what I was doing

Currently Myrtle and Texas are in use

[velvet valve]

bagpipe>flametail>saga

[ocean jolt]

I originally used Zima before Texas

[ocean jolt]

Ty

[storm current]

nah you dont need to care about the 5* VG here

[velvet valve]

big gaps on bapipe btw she is the highest meta

[storm current]

just use bagpipe flametail myrtle exchangably

and you ill be fine

[ocean jolt]

[sullen frost]

Hi, can someone help me with this stage [PR-D-1]? Im trying to get chips to promote some of my operators but im struggling to keep enemies at bay

[glass monolith]

I don't recall enemies outside dogs which should go down to 99% of 2 block operators

[cinder pike]

what units are you using?

[storm current]

easy chese is shifter

[cinder pike]

this is the guard/specialist chip stage so shifters are very nice here

[storm current]

even e0 shaw work

for example

i assume you leak to wolf or something because no vanguard

[sullen frost]

well i tried using Vigna and Texas with Hibiscus e1 as healer, and Beagle and Cuora as shields, with Midnight Flametail and Humus for dps.

[sullen frost]

I leak because the evasive enemies sneak up on me when my guards are full on enemies and cant block anymore

[storm current]

whats your current issue

mob leak?

[sullen frost]

yeah

[storm current]

thats why you use shifter hyea

when push/pull to hole, they die instantly

else use stronger dps units to brute force

[sullen frost]

i dont have hyea

[storm current]

what are your units

[cinder pike]

also annilation 1-2 shows the cheesing of shifters

[sullen frost]

i am very nub

[cinder pike]

do you have cliffheart, rope, shaw, freater?

[glass monolith]

there are bunch of shielded boys going at bottom lane in second half of map

[sullen frost]

i have shaw

thats ab it

[cinder pike]

can you click on your specialist filter in operators

and send a picture?

[storm current]

its understandable

cliff is only obtainable on day 7

do you have pinecone and what guard do you have

[sullen frost]

in specialist i only have gravel

[storm current]

try recruiting more ye

[sullen frost]

i dont have pinecone, as for guards i have beagle e1, gummy, cardigan, spot and cuora as well as noir corne

[storm current]

those are defender

[sullen frost]

oh wait brainfart

[storm current]

guards can kill them faster

[sullen frost]

i have dobermann cutter mousse melantha midnight humus utage and popukar

[storm current]

can work

cutter is good

humus is ok

[cinder pike]

you can send a picture of all the operators you have

[storm current]

your strategy can be putting a defender behind a guard to block anything leak

also

[sullen frost]

one sec

[storm current]

shaw should be free after you clear certain story stage

[sullen frost]

i do have shaw

@cinder pike

[storm current]

also btw quick head up

higher rarity =/= better

[sullen frost]

yeah i found that out a little too late

[storm current]

shaw work at e0

just need skill level 4

with shaw, one of the lane is fine

top right and can be deal with a sniper + a blocker

[sullen frost]

i have shaw skill lv4

[storm current]

left prob work with multiple defender + greyy

you will have to try it yourself

greyy is an aoe unit, he should be able to deal with large mob group

shaw prob work in the middle lane

[sullen frost]

have shaw push off ledge? or just push back

[storm current]

here

[sullen frost]

oke

and what ab top right

[storm current]

tanky defender + archetto ig

i guess head up is that, do you want to know which ops you should raise

[polar crane]

top right need an aoe caster/sniper

[storm current]

i think archetto s1 should be enough aoe

[sullen frost]

i like archetto beagle and texas

[polar crane]

they have chetto

[sullen frost]

[glass monolith]

Commit defendium

[cinder pike]

another scuffed placement for you

mostly level 1 (jessica is 45 and ansel is E1 1)

Feater is SL4

[storm current]

typically you want a team set up like
2 vanguard, preferably pioneer like flametail texas is fine but they are expensive so you can cut cost with fang
2 medic, 1 single target like silence + 1 aoe like perfumer, but no perfumer so hibiscus or sussuro for now
2 defender, 1 tanky type like beagle/cuora, 1 healing type like spot/gummy
2 marksman, kroos + archetto is fine
1 art, e1 steward, he should be better at e1 than amiya
1 aoe, shirayuki is good, greyy alt is technically aoe but not ideal for newbie, need investment
the rest are wildcard slots you can use your strong units for like cutter or whatever fit the stage

[cinder pike]

well greyy alt has the rosmontis issue of can't hit drones

[sullen frost]

well this is what i usually run for things like story (ss is a bit outdated cuz levels)

[cinder pike]

replace greyy with shirayuki (base skill is good at e1)

[glass monolith]

Stage has TWO ranged tiles, you brought 7 ranged operators

[sullen frost]

yeah i realized afterwards

[glass monolith]

I personally got away with using ranged tiles for DPS while rotating bodies to keep them alive

[sullen frost]

[glass monolith]

Like Defender in front, guard in back, archeto and amiya on ranged tiles

Dogs on starts easy so Flametail and Texas can print all DP to execute future fiesta

[polar crane]

ranged guard is your friend in this stage

[glass monolith]

Who need promotion to fucking reach something because they start with smol range

[cinder pike]

wow, yyou have a more leveled flametail then me

[sullen frost]

would this group work

[polar crane]

oh I forgot about that

[glass monolith]

Practice plans exists if you not sure

[cinder pike]

amiya shiryuki can be dumped for melee bodies

vigna + defender should be 90% of your dps bottom lane

then you just need more defenders to block while waiting

[glass monolith]

I would bring defenders or more leveled operators instead Cutter Vannila Mousse and Sharayuki, but my plan is just replacing damaged operator instead healing them up

[sullen frost]

so should i replace one with Gravel?

sorry my brain is very empty

[cinder pike]

hummus works perfectly well

[glass monolith]

Practice plan, try it out, if it doesn't work back to drawing board

[cinder pike]

Gummy, dobberman

etc

[sullen frost]

ok gonna give it a try

ok first try managed to 2 star

i think if i place operators in better guarding positions i can do 3 star

ty guys

[shell arch]

Hey guys

I have a question

Is cw-10 killgated?

[timid acorn]

yes, there's a killgate before the final 4 enemies

[sullen frost]

ok three starred, thank y'all so much

[glass monolith]

And then he promoted operator and it desynced

[sullen frost]

huh

[versed arrow]

lets pray he dont forget to redo stage when it happens

[sullen frost]

OH yeah i understand now

yeah i will

i dont think the unit im trying to promote was used on that stage

lemme check

yeah no i didnt use gravel

[glass monolith]

Auto of this game repeats your moves, but due some lags shifting RNG (like Kroos crits), promotion increasing DP cost (So it fails to deploy on time due running dry on DP), and leveling just make do more damage which can lead to stuff like kill dog block boss instead boss walk by while you block dogs...

Basically alot of stuff can go wrong

[sullen frost]

i see

[versed arrow]

leveling up skill also affects it when it gives you more dps

[glass monolith]

Called leveling

[sullen frost]

i usually try to deploy a dp battery like Texas to try and counteract the DP costs

[glass monolith]

Also case when leveling make your operator survive while in original run he dies and you deployed replacement somewhere else, if you deploy operator on same spot then auto will retreat before deploying without issue

Auto desync was pain with annihilations, now we have skip tickets so we just need to finish them with 400/400 with our own operator only to skip 25 minute desync fests

[sullen frost]

i dont think im powerful enough for max annihilations rn

[versed arrow]

w s3 anni desync trauma is real

[sullen frost]

well thanks again crew, i have to wait on sanity recharge now so imma take a nap, see yall around

[glass monolith]

Desync anni because RNG shifted and Ambriel stunned enemy 5 times in row outside DPS range making it desync kill gate

[brisk pollen]

rate my setup

[vernal lion]

Mudrock taking age to kill the colossus

[brisk pollen]

nvm blaze leaked those 2 block goats

ffs

[brisk pollen]

at least she can prevent horn from being distracted

[glass monolith]

Don't you love when half hour long anni just fails at 390 kills

[brisk pollen]

dont tell me i have to bring gavialter

[storm current]

You dont

Just fix deployment

[brisk pollen]

how so

[storm current]

Also use regular medics

[brisk pollen]

2 laneholders on each lane?

[brisk pollen]

wdym

[storm current]

skalter cant heal enough

[brisk pollen]

issue is not my ops dying

its those 2 block enemies

[storm current]

do you like

read what the golem do

if not beamed

they are extremely tanky

but if beamed, they die to just vanguards

[brisk pollen]

beam as if my ops blasting beams to it or

just my ops in beam range?

[storm current]

as in lazer go through them

without laser they have 1200 - 1400 def 50 res

with laser they have 200 def 0 res

example set up like this

hoshi or thorns on that tile to block golem

thorns should work because bibeak worked with asteisa

horn can be 1 tile to the left, she wont need the sp

[brisk pollen]

uh she would take ages to load her s1

[storm current]

and nearl alt or hoshi on the bot lane to redirect the beam with blaze behind

doesnt matter

enemies die from off skill horn

it works with my firewhistle

so horn with twice the dmg should work

you can put a snipers of any kind on these tile for more dps

anything work really

[brisk pollen]

im thinking

hoshi top lane blaze bottom

[glass monolith]

Have you tried not thinking?

[storm current]

you can pair blaze with hoshi

[brisk pollen]

ditch thorns so i can have 1 slot for my panic buttons (surtr and texas)

[storm current]

nearl seem unnecessary

[brisk pollen]

nearls there to heal

[brisk pollen]

if only everything in this game can be brute forced with big pp damage

[foggy grove]

that just means you are not applying enough pp dmg

[storm current]

Heal what

You have lumen already no?

[deft badger]

hahahahaha

was looking at the picture and thought the same

dude what is he planning on killing, clearly overthinking..

@glass monolith btw how did u do h12-4?

kinder to lazy to try for hours to find a way

[glass monolith]

I did something I am not proud of - Mlynared shit out of it

[deft badger]

going to bring him anyway since i don't wanna deal with drones without him

[versed arrow]

thats what I did, I yato s3 some of the more dangerous looking waves at the end, and it turned out well

[deft badger]

• those stupid 🎈 🎈

[versed arrow]

too lazy to find optimal beam position

[vernal lion]

OH MOTHER FCK, I'M SO CLOSE

[glass monolith]

Btw solo mlynar won't infinitely survive against boss ranged attack, when def is 0 he being hit for 4400

[deft badger]

u thought that u have been to lazy how does that look like? 😂

[deft badger]

he wont be the only one with big balls dmg, he has only to help me survive one wave of 🎈 then he can die as far i care

since u all have been talking how he is getting aggro i plan on bringing gravel as well

ain't sure if its going to work but i wanna try

prob should use texas s3 anyway and just time it right

[versed arrow]

this pic looks like my first attempt at this anni, was planning to spawn kill them but then I see the slugs that spawned behind and just restarted

[deft badger]

that laser works fine, most of the tanky dudes spawn there
and slugs are not a problem anyway

[vernal lion]

so close

[brisk pollen]

thanks m8

only 72 sanity wasted

[deft badger]

does the ball make him take a other rout?

[vernal lion]

yes

that's why I can stall this 4ever

[deft badger]

🧠

[vernal lion]

while waiting for redeploy op

[deft badger]

didn't get the idea to move the ball xD

[brisk pollen]

note to myself: next time use fang instead of texas

fang has shorter skill cycle

[deft badger]

my skadi needs 40 more trust, don't wanna do h12-4 without the dmg reduction

[brisk pollen]

just weedy it

[deft badger]

my weedy is still e1

planning since a year to give her that e2 and i never get to it

[brisk pollen]

not really an issue

i think s1 better in this event anw

[brisk pollen]

how did you clear cc12 then

[deft badger]

without

on dmg 😄

[brisk pollen]

wdym

you brute forced challenge 6?

[versed arrow]

dont need weedy for challenge 6 just use sniper strat

[foggy grove]

i don't use weedy either

[deft badger]

@brisk pollen that was the testing part, hoshi got replaced for specter since he wasn't able to 1 hit her and gets out of his invulnerable rest was just block him till he dies with fast redeploys

didn't do more then r18 didn't try higher was to lazy to e2 a op for that since i am getting nothing from it

[brisk pollen]

is this with that red tag

[deft badger]

u mean the i 1 shot ur shit and invulnerable for years

[brisk pollen]

yes

[deft badger]

yes

[brisk pollen]

if yes then

impressive

[deft badger]

that worked only because of specter

if i didn't have specter that wouldn't work 😄

[brisk pollen]

i used specter too in tandem with weedy

[deft badger]

can hold him till he is invulnerable

then he just 1 hits her 😄

[brisk pollen]

35 secs

blud's invicibility is 20

plenty

[deft badger]

yeah +fast redeploys

[brisk pollen]

wait its 20

just right

[deft badger]

was holding him there for chong to bang him in the head surtr and QB

[deft badger]

w8 i have a pic but i know it wasn't a problem so probably around 20

[brisk pollen]

its right there

20 secs

next to "manual"

[deft badger]

i think its 20, each of them adds 5 sec

nah but he died fast actually, from all the dmg + gnosis

if i did have shamare would even bring her but she e1 as well 😄

don't remember if he even lasted that long that i would need 2 debuffs

i am sad that cc is over and i have just 2 medals

happens when u leave the game for a long time 😄

[vernal lion]

took me 25 tries

[rose patrol]

man this is hard

[real marten]

Just don't break em

[rose patrol]

but if i don't break them, how do i get to 5? stage only allows 3

3 balls

needs 5 to get override

[real marten]

It says at most right? Meaning you can only let her override max 5? Or do you need to make her override more then 5?

[rose patrol]

i did let her override the balls

then i break them so i can accumulate up to 5 overrides

[real marten]

I think you aren't supposed to?

[rose patrol]

i did 6 and didn't count

[real marten]

Yeah

At most means you can't let her get more then 5

[rose patrol]

man the wording is confusing

[real marten]

So just don't break them

Lol

You can duo this stage with just texalt and yato alt

[rose patrol]

yea ur right

[real marten]

Lmao

[rose patrol]

i'll try again

maybe i do need to break them

[real marten]

Nah

[rose patrol]

but not more than 5

[real marten]

Don't break them since she'll override then again

If you do, don't break any more then 2

[rose patrol]

but if she override them in her 2nd phase that makes it 6

so phase 1 i should let her override 2 or 3?

[real marten]

I don't think she does

[rose patrol]

cause phase 2 she overrides all 3 at the same time

[real marten]

I'd say just ignore the balls completely for now

See where it gets you

[rose patrol]

i'll try my auto first

just do the auto instead

[shell arch]

Thanks

[eager gate]

Which tasks to do to unlock those hidden missions?

well they aren't hidden, but they don't say what exactly to investigate to unlock

[deft badger]

there is a button when u have one here

over that box

[eager gate]

But which exactly

[deft badger]

i don't have one right now its in the lower left corner

u can press it and it does state what u have to do

looks like this button

[deft badger]

nvm did have one more thing left 😄

[eager gate]

where on this thing are other spec ops permits

is what I mean

[deft badger]

ahh

wanted to know the same

naga just told me do dailys

he writing right now anyway 😄

[eager gate]

o wait the permits have # icons near them

you can literally just look which are permits and which are arts etc

[deft badger]

i expect

its the first mission on each of them

[rapid summit]

Can you not pull debris? Popped down cliffheart to pull but S1 or S2 she doesn't attack it nor do the skills even go off?

[deft badger]

since thats when i got the first one, then i went to finish the fisrt to 100%

[eager gate]

it's 3 on hamhrr, and 4 on both the lower 2

[deft badger]

am doing now the 2nd first mission will see its going to give me one

[eager gate]

I should've just tried to look into it myself and would've understood soon, but stupidity got to my brain

[deft badger]

ok no i didn't get one so i don't know then

[deft badger]

yeah saw it now

reading is hard lol

ok means i can get tomorrow my next Spec Ops permit

whats even planetary debris?

[eager gate]

Rolling orbs are debris

[deft badger]

ok

what do the other buffs do?

[glass monolith]

Well unlock them, duh

[deft badger]

i wanna know what they do xD

since the first one seems useless to me i never move those

or didn't have a reason to do

maybe now i will xD

[glass monolith]

Well your usse because you can't disable them after unlocking

[real marten]

Balls

[eager gate]

I have no clue I just overpowered through the whole event, pretty much

about to run like 20 red cert stages, it's time to buy honeyberry

[vernal lion]

fun fact,
in CW-10, if you play your auto in x1 speed,
when the countdown voice is ended, the boss will appear synchronically with the voice and music

[waxen swan]

Not doing that

[chilly hound]

no way so cool

[jovial nest]

oh the pioneer effects just get upgrades

no choices like SN

[boreal magnet]

cool

[vernal lion]

tbh tho I will cope Melanite

I like her nuke

got her to pot 5

[weak gazelle]

sigh
fail for 3 consecutive run
fps really screwed it

[deft badger]

my works fine

[weak gazelle]

its frame drop tho
og run only 2 ball explode, that ss was 3 explode
all my ranged ops die

750 dmg each ball explode

ex map should be around 900 each

[vocal leaf]

why so many ops for a farming stage? you don’t trust farm?

[leaden raven]

do u guys think Silverash s3 + Aak buff is enough to kill Kristen 2nd Phase?

[leaden raven]

the answer is no btw.

[turbid lagoon]

With 0 active stars that should be fine?

[deft badger]

its not like they split they all get the same amount

or did someone explain it wrong to me

[vernal lion]

Hoshi: carrying the melee lane...
me: taking care the jetpack dudes with switch button play

[vocal leaf]

its not that what i mean, its just seemed that you’re using a full team, supposing everyone there is 200 trust

[deft badger]

4 of them are not on max, just added them to the squad

those who need the trust

[vocal leaf]

oh i see, i actually use only 4op, the rest is for trust farm

not sure if the ball is doing something tho

[deft badger]

nah my mlynar skalter gladiia skadi ines chong are not at 200% prob someone else as well 😄

upper part of the squad doesn't have 200 😄

[sly drift]

How do you complete the stage with that "no takeoff" condition

I did the challenge with no one of those mob able to fly but still fail somehow

Maybe I will just blast them on spawn later. Ignoring the whole mechanic

[vernal lion]

same direction to gravity making jetpack dude to accelerate their mspd, if it's higher than 0.7 tile per second, they can take off

you can also apply the debuff on their mspd, at least -50%

[sly drift]

Yea I make sure they all fall to the hole but it's not completed somehow. It's weird

[vernal lion]

the last waves with jetpack dude, you have like 15 seconds to react to each wave

[glass monolith]

Dude your mission is prevent take offs, not hole them

Also last wave is both directions at same time, fuck that just kill them

[sly drift]

Yea but none of them able to fly mean they will walk to hole

[glass monolith]

You trust this potato code to detect it?

[sly drift]

Nevermind i will just slap them in spawn lol

100% will works

[vernal lion]

they have hovering effect, so the code is still worked

they will move like the hovering path

[sly drift]

Maybe

[vernal lion]

even if they are not in hovering effect

btw hovering only makes them fly over your allies,
not the untravellable tile likes high tile or some specific environmental tile,
so they will always code to move on ground path, even if there's hole

[unkempt cypress]

Park very aggressively in first two tiles

[deft badger]

i rolled for my wife 30 accs with ines on them lol, now i have to play that today and pull mumu + mlynar 😄

on at least one

anyway i don't think she is going to have one in the end, so ines - mlynar or ines - mumu don't know what would be a better starter

[gleaming lodge]

I can't quite measure Mumu's power

She looks funny

But not particularly strong

[glass monolith]

90% Fia

[gleaming lodge]

.7 Fias

[deft badger]

u ain't helping me 😄
so ines mumu, f- mlynar 🙂

but i think the chances for ines mumu would be higher then ines mlynar on it since blemi ...

[tidal sedge]

this stage was 5 times easier than cw6 lol

the power of the balls

2nd try

unlike the hell that came before

[sly drift]

S tier atleast. Strong but not gamechanging.

On the tier somewhere around mountain or something

15s stun lock for all blocked enemies is just nut

Bind lock to whoever in her range too (Ranged clone)

[vernal lion]

wait until you reached to CW-9 tho

[sly drift]

I think she's very strong.

[brisk pollen]

kirsten in the normal stage is fodder

hope shes harder in EX

[sly drift]

Kristen is one of the weakest boss on the last 2 years event
And yea I'm disappointed too

[brisk pollen]

plus free aspd boost of event mechanic

is laughable

[vernal lion]

that's just how Damazti difference in normal stage and H stage tho

[sly drift]

Damazti on normal stage is already a pain

[brisk pollen]

my silverash can straight up solo her phase 1

[sly drift]

And then there's damazti h12-4

[tidal sedge]

I like how on one hand you have a stage that requires perfect micromanagement to just barely do, and then right after comes a braindead stage

ak stage design

[vernal lion]

puzzle design

just like Who Is Real

[brisk pollen]

i still loathe wr ex 6

i have to screenshot roadblock formations to actually clear that stage

[sly drift]

That shit took me most attempts back then

Much more than ex 8

[vernal lion]

actually, do puzzle or do burst strat, you still need brain tho

[tidal sedge]

oh

the stage that can be done by low rarity defenders

[sly drift]

Reject mechanic. Become ungabunga

But man. Everything is easier now that newer ops are so broken.

I have to use all *5 to finally experience "tower defense" again

[brisk pollen]

the game becomes braindead the moment i have texas+yato and surtr

[sly drift]

Agree

[brisk pollen]

and flagpipe combo

and mountain

and 2 juggernauts

and thorns

[vernal lion]

fun fact, you don't even need vanguard

[brisk pollen]

well i run both penance and mudrock so

[vernal lion]

meta executor specialist is your "vanguard"

[brisk pollen]

hell i dont even use snipers and casters nowadays lmfao

newer events barely ever have drones

[sly drift]

All of them usually have some flaws on certain condition.
However texalt and yato are just straight brainrot on every single stage (cc excluded)

[brisk pollen]

and big tankys can be simply brute forced

kekw

[brisk pollen]

fr yato and texas really cover each other

texas hitting that wide aoe while yato can reach unreachable places

[gleaming lodge]

??
I didn't try to help you

[brisk pollen]

if 2 year ago i say these two will break the game i would become a laughingstock

[eager gate]

Muelsyse is top tier clutterknights member she can fill a whole 3x3 melee and a whole 1 ranged

[gleaming lodge]

Clutterknights

[eager gate]

Nah you wouldn't. Texas is like 2nd most popular character and Yato was memed since ak inception
It's not crazy that they'd get op alters

[deft badger]

🫂

[gleaming lodge]

On my way make up 71 new nicheknights for no reason

[eager gate]

I wouldn't call it if there wasn't someone on yt playing it

[gleaming lodge]

Does it have a category on ArkRec ?

[eager gate]

I don't know and I care about arcrec much less than about people I can see in front of me doing the thing

[brisk pollen]

vanguardknights is probably the most well rounded
they have essentially everything

healing? myrtle
boss deleters? bagpipe
laneholder? muelsyse
attack aerial enemies? also mumu and texas and cantabile and ines and

[eager gate]

names Muel, texas
ignores the rest of 4x3 range vgs

[brisk pollen]

theyre the first that pops my mind

well sure theres... crabs

and blacknight

they even have their own fast redeploys

[gleaming lodge]

Huh

Sorry but supporterknights is better at doing maps

Being Ling

🤮

For CC they aren't crazy though

Oh btw

https://youtu.be/nzEsrO5hWjc

Defenderknigths did r31w2 on CC#12

with my account

[lethal dragon]

Nice

[brisk pollen]

no way

arturia playing plastic love

[celest bluff]

OH COME ON

[vernal lion]

everyone: Watching and playing ball together...
Saria: Punching metal box, with anger...

[turbid badge]

yes

[magic flame]

I uh. Forgot the event mechanic existed.

[vernal lion]

BALL

[celest bluff]

Same

[river atlas]

event mechanic makes trust farm so much easier

[halcyon adder]

Mountain is significantly superior

[celest bluff]

Anyone fucked up with their permit?

[halcyon adder]

No just u

[celest bluff]

(Loudly) FUCK

[crisp bolt]

[raven rover]

How to beat CW-5? Any strat?

[glass monolith]

Kill everyone

[raven rover]

I can't machines and armored boys from right side just killing me... I don't have enough points for units

[celest bluff]

Show comp and then we will verbally judge you

[glass monolith]

I achieved it with maxed 3 stars so skill issue if you brought 30 DP cost operators without vanguards

[celest bluff]

The stage design make me want to play IXION

[boreal magnet]

dont retreat vanguards too early

[raven rover]

Siege is good?

Siege and texas will be good for start?

[celest bluff]

Anything dude

Anything

[raven rover]

What about later?

[boreal magnet]

yeah, 2 vanguards will be good

[raven rover]

How i should kill the shielders?

I don't have enough dmg to kill them

[boreal magnet]

bring 2 deffender also for the cart

[raven rover]

Cuz dogs

Steward helps me, but still

• Idk how to kill machines

[glass monolith]

Need deploy slot - retreat vanguard, I don't know what you have but everything made out of paper if you bring right damage type

[boreal magnet]

if you cant kill fast enough just stall with medic and deffender. and for The robo guy, use someone with high aspd

[glass monolith]

Arts, decent amount of arts

[celest bluff]

I believe you can tell who this is

[glass monolith]

Midnight Spot Cardigan with skin Lava Ansel with skin Kroos with skin Orchid Steward

[celest bluff]

Single target sniper, just sub her in
Slow supporter
And Steward

[boreal magnet]

before u ask if steward is good, better than amiya

[celest bluff]

Amiya guard tho

[boreal magnet]

fr

[celest bluff]

I use sword Amiya more than beam Amiya

[boreal magnet]

i wish they add more job changer for Amiya

[celest bluff]

What, you want a sniper amiya?

[glass monolith]

I wish newspaper skin was apply able to guardbnuuy

[boreal magnet]

i want

Dollkeeper

[glass monolith]

When was space collab bunny skin btw?

[boreal magnet]

i hope it hit global

since it was chinese corp collab

the KFC collab never get into global iirc

[deft badger]

don't talk about skins i am struggling

did say i will never buy skins but i am so close too 😄

[glass monolith]

As F2P i don't buy skins, i earn them

[boreal magnet]

you have 5 minutes to explain how you ve earned Poze skin on ur pfp

[deft badger]

the hell are u doing xD

[vernal lion]

Saria: I will discipline you after this, Doctor.

[turbid lagoon]

What a wholesome game of catch

[glass monolith]

Lego piece stepped on Saria

[high crest]

What skill of ash is that?

[latent anvil]

Her best one

[vernal lion]

s1 = afk double hit

[high crest]

Ok

[boreal magnet]

doctor: why take you guys too long
saria: theyre definitely not playing catchballs

[versed arrow]

the influence of ceobe

[vocal apex]

Anyone know if Aosta worth investing in? Got 2 copies randomly

[turbid sapphire]

Is there somewhere I can find guides to event stages and annihilation stages? I’ve found a few annihilation stages on YouTube but not much else

[vocal apex]

I love his whole vibe and stats but his range is something left to be desired

[celest bluff]

Arknights guide is an entire genre of itself, how can you not finding any

[glass monolith]

You underestimate degradation of Youtube search function

[glass monolith]

Pretty sure everyone use Chalter Pinecone when they need such sniper type

[celest bluff]

What stage are you looking for

Choosing between
But then I get

[turbid sapphire]

Yes, I’m certain it exists. Just curious if experienced players had favorite resources. Thanks anyways 🙂

[cyan gorge]

You can ignore Warf mod unless you regularly use her s1 healing

[versed arrow]

You can find resource on bili but I am too lazy to find translation to search for ak resource there. I mostly watch video on yt.

[eager gate]

Experienced player's favorite resource is their head

[deft badger]

don't waste u will get lumen soon

when it comes to healer/warf

[eager gate]

on the other hand

why wait for lumen when you have an e2 Warf

that heals AND buffs

and is an sp battery

[deft badger]

going to use that warf because of buff

but warf doesn't top lumen

kinder hard to top that 😄

[eager gate]

...no I'm pretty sure she's easily a bigger prio than lumen

[fluid sail]

lumen is much easier to replace than warf as status effects are rare so most of the time lumen is just pure healing whereas warf also buffs/sp batteries
not saying lumen is bad by any means but warf is generally more impactful

[celest bluff]

Lumen is just situational

[deft badger]

i don't know what kind of stages u run, last time i did need a warf buff was for Chong event

last boss btw that was the last time i was in need of a warf buff

[celest bluff]

And I think you ping me wrong

[deft badger]

thats a warf mod

[fluid sail]

the point is that warfarin is much harder to replace than lumen, as she does much more than just healing
lumen can cleanse status effects but a +90% atk buff is much more helpful a majority of the time

[deft badger]

to be clear warf yes e2 s2m3 / good healer, but if that thing u wanna kill is killable by multiple op u will bring one more dps and not go for the buff

if u must work with that 2 ops u will

when it comes to ST heals luman lantern is hard to top

btw i have 2 healers on e2 build.. guess who it is xD

[fluid sail]

warfarin can function as a medic while also being a buffer/battery so you don’t have to swap someone out to bring her in
most of the time it’s worth having slightly smaller heals for warfarin’s role compression as a healer/buffer/battery

pot 5 lumen

[deft badger]

u didn't get my point i am clearly talking about heals.. he will in the end prob build luman and warf

warf doesn't have even nearly the same output

2 in one i can tell u now she doesn't pull same numbers

[eager gate]

There's like 2 bosses in the whole game where you need a medic with lumen's output

[deft badger]

i have luman and warf in the same squad all the time

i use luman because of range + stupid amounts of ST heal

[fluid sail]

most of the time you don’t need the high pure healing lumen has and then warfarin is a better choice because she provides more than just that

[deft badger]

dude if u have those 2

u build them

there isn't a discussion about that

my words have been if u want a mod for a healer

give it to lumen which u are going to get after LT ends

[eager gate]

AK grown so big that leaving medics at e1 forever because all they do is heal is a forgotten thing

people used to say "just e2 warfarin and ng"

and that's late in player progression too

[deft badger]

which is a good point

if u have them

warf ng lumen ptilo

would build them all if did have them but i don't 😄

[eager gate]

I only have lumen because he'll give me a whole lotta yellow papers next event

[deft badger]

started playing when SN came out, cleared event so yeah prio was getting mats didn't get to get the last pot but 1DP not big of a deal 😄

[celest bluff]

Over engineered

[eager gate]

it's not over- if you had fun

ohhh damn now I know what I want

[deft badger]

i like him for the range, can cover a lot, is ST but because of atk speed he gains can go in to multi target

[eager gate]

I want to make Conviction oneshot kristen

[deft leaf]

hi, i tried various strat for LONETRAIL event stage CW-5 with full team elite 40 with skill lvl 6-7 and even after trying some strat found on youtube, nothing work... the strats i found work with a team full of operators 55 elite but i found no one using an elite 30 team which is the recommended lvl... if someone was abble to complete this tage with the recommended lvl or slightly above, please share it, TY

[boreal magnet]

what/wich scenarios seems to be the problems from your run?

[deft leaf]

my tank got crushed

i cant kill the armored soldiers before they rich the buton even with a slower and a caster

[polar crane]

show us what you have

just need a fast attacker to chip down the defender dude

since his def and res decrease by every hit taken

[deft leaf]

a fast one then... and to keep my tank alive? i have oshiguma and Cuora

and Beagle too

gavial as healer

[boreal magnet]

you can set up Supporter + caster + sniper on rhe "S" shaped line on right side. That way you can cheap their def and res before reaching your lane holder

as for the left side, put 2 deffender + medic and aoe damager (recomended caster)

[boreal magnet]

also this

[deft leaf]

i do that already

i'll try a fast dps on the S

[celest bluff]

Had you tried

Kroos

[deft leaf]

ah, no

[ancient sky]

also on the S, remember to face ops downwards. there is a map mechanic where attack rate is increased when facing down.

[deft leaf]

then a sniper and a support instead of a caster and a support

[ancient sky]

i also had trouble with cw-5 three days ago ;-; but I beat it yesterday

[deft leaf]

down, you mean they face me?

[ancient sky]

yeah they face you

[deft leaf]

okey

[ancient sky]

I had maxed out skill + level kroos + orchid on the S, which stopped everything until the last 2-3 defenders

[boreal magnet]

thats some 4th wall break stuff but yeah

[deft leaf]

okey

thank you for your guidance

[ancient sky]

I had to activate orchid skill when the dog + defender come at the same time or else there's not enough dps

[deft leaf]

i see

this is wat i used until now

[deft badger]

how should kroos do enough dmg to them if a blaze doesn't even do dmg 😄

whit charged s2

[ancient sky]

the kroos stopped the doggos, but maybe that's not necessary 😮

[deft badger]

nah saw someone telling they should use kroos on the tanky ops right side

kroos who has 350-380 dmg e1lvl55

[deft leaf]

so you put 3 dps on the S?

yeah lvl 55

but my team is e40

[cyan gorge]

You didn't read the tank description, did you?

[deft badger]

when a blaze with 1,4k dmg doesn't even scratch them

[cyan gorge]

Read it again and figure out why

[deft leaf]

yeah but theire defense crumble with fast dps

[deft badger]

u can just say they take more dmg when u hit them more often, don't do the are u stupid thing on me pls xD

[lapis sun]

Teaching you how to fish rather than giving you a fish

[glass monolith]

And then there is me trying to catch fish with spearfish

[deft leaf]

Show some love to each others ❤️ assume your BL