strategy

[foggy grove]

skippable

[storm current]

i mean

[jovial nest]

I guess the most annoying issue is there's just so many laner options now that its hard to point to when I'd use him

[storm current]

if not art guard

what would she be

core caster?

[novel pivot]

my acc has enough nuke already

the only thing that matters now is typhon

To be my 29th nuke

[jovial nest]

my blue books are kinda low (60) so I might hold on investing on CY

[latent monolith]

Savior of splash casters

Need candle nuke

[storm current]

she might be worse that way

lmao

[latent monolith]

how do you make viviana playable without the candle nuke

[cyan gorge]

She could've been a splash or mystic caster, be grateful

[foggy grove]

candle nuke with ignore res pls

[storm current]

i guess

[jovial nest]

the great think about Typhon is

[storm current]

you can make her increase splash range

like how her enemy version look like

[latent monolith]

Increase range, hit everyone in range, 10000% atk, 80% res ignore

[jovial nest]

you use her like a permaduration laner
but her other skill has Boss killing potential too

[latent monolith]

You can always fix these issues with more numbers

[novel pivot]

i just want typhon because

She's braindead to use

minimal amounts of neuroticism required

[jovial nest]

I mean

I plan to use her with Skalter and Thorns

[storm current]

altho according to kermit

exe alt is technically stronger in a vaccuum

[novel pivot]

I guess after i get typhon i'll just

[latent monolith]

ngl I want exec because small brain application just makes him completely nuke everything

[storm current]

prob because lane holder

[latent monolith]

I mean yeah

[novel pivot]

Spark for skalter or something

[foggy grove]

i'm pulling exec and hoe

[latent monolith]

Self sustain laneholder that does beyond chalter damage on a faster cycle

[storm current]

exe alt is gavialt/penance archetype of lane holder

[latent monolith]

Postmod exec has ling level of low ops

[storm current]

fairly strong and can be relevant in hard content

because they scale so much better than like blaze and thorns

[foggy grove]

nah ling is another tier

[storm current]

typhon is more specialize

[foggy grove]

she has like over 6k records

lmao

[novel pivot]

surely one day blaze will be relevant again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1058048947794489444.png?size=48

[storm current]

ling can block 4 lane at the same time

[turbid badge]

surley

[foggy grove]

he is creeping on old laneholder record tho despite newer

[turbid badge]

Delats gonna make her op

[novel pivot]

I mod 3 hellagur

And

Havent used him

Whatascam

[jovial nest]

i sure do love vacuums

[latent monolith]

That's mostly because she's much older

Exec has 1k records and he hasn't even reached EN yet

And his module comes even later

[foggy grove]

he is already closing on doro
stronk

[jovial nest]

can't multi lane though heheh

[novel pivot]

He's got a weird thing where he doesnt take damage at all and just becomes a worse duelist

or he takes so much damage that he gets his full buff but also cant do damage cuz his enemy has absurd def

hellagur moment

[turbid badge]

wtf actually closing on doro??

[latent monolith]

Dorothy is 1.3k yea

[foggy grove]

doro only have 1.5k

[latent monolith]

1.5k includes records that have been improved on

[novel pivot]

I tried using hellagur in ch 12

And he just doesnt scratch the heavier spies at all

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1037293299775590471.png?size=48

[storm current]

year 1 syndrome

[novel pivot]

Comical

[storm current]

i have uh

[novel pivot]

I want a refund

[foggy grove]

🏃

[storm current]

110 rolls on EN

90 rolls on JP

and 10 rolls on KR

[novel pivot]

i got 136 in en

need dat typhon guarantee

[latent monolith]

It would be a shame if your laneholder had a 3k damage double hit part of which ignored 300 def while self healing for 720 hp

[storm current]

i want muelsyse tho

also hit all enemies within range

[novel pivot]

The more pulls you have the unluckier hou are

[storm current]

instead of 1 enemy

[latent monolith]

yea

[novel pivot]

which is great when its actually active and not having him waste block count

plus

goofy ahh civilians

[storm current]

AOE matter for lane holding

and hellagur s3 is ass

[turbid badge]

yea

[novel pivot]

i m3 hella s2

Didnt bother s3

KekL

[latent monolith]

He solos top lane h12-4 btw

[novel pivot]

wait rlly? No buffs?

[turbid badge]

hellas actually pretty fun if u do (try) to utilize

[novel pivot]

ouh well who cares

Mon3tr did that for me alr

[storm current]

uh

mon3tr took 2 slot

exe took 1

big difference

[novel pivot]

i had free slot that battle

Only used for

Frd

[novel pivot]

What skill does he use on that map

[latent monolith]

3

[novel pivot]

oh well

cant try it

Mine only sl7

[turbid badge]

bro i remmeber getting lied to

that hellagur s3 coukd hit air

[latent monolith]

S3 has the low op shennanigans

[novel pivot]

[storm current]

typhon is pretty good for brute force tho

since she can ignore boss mechanic

[novel pivot]

That's exactly why i want her

[jovial nest]

Typhon's also great for high DEF

[turbid badge]

she have a Low op in jessica map right?

[jovial nest]

thats why I'm tagteaming her with Thorns

[storm current]

kind of

because high range and lock down

[turbid badge]

or can u just ling the wntire map

[storm current]

the map isnt swarming in mob either

[jovial nest]

I'm so near having most of my ops be 200%

can't wait to do speedrun squads for farming

rather than low ops

[turbid badge]

wtf??

how much

[jovial nest]

still a decent amount. But at least I've ruled out a lot of unraised ops

so most of the ones that are still not 200% are raised and can farm on their own

[latent halo]

She can hit SK when he's flying ? Pogger

[storm current]

she can ignore SK defense 👍

[river atlas]

SK?

[tidal sedge]

Steam Knight

[latent halo]

[river atlas]

Oh

[storm current]

typhon can fight up to around

4k-5k def

for both s2 s3

[glass monolith]

Fun fact, he is not flying, he just turns "invisible" with cool animation. How do I know that? I tried to Camo cheese his bombing only to realize the operator who was blocking him is still "blocking" him mid air (blocking disable camo)

[tropic valve]

wtf

didn't know that but cool

so that means their block count is still taken up

and "on block" effects like Eunectes' trait would stay active

I assume?

[jovial nest]

i learned that when my SK blocker leaked another enemy

while SK is in the air

[ornate siren]

just as others do, im copying a clear because time is money

but

is GG s2 instead of eyja here better?

[storm current]

hmm

wouldnt running the oyuki set up better

but ye GG will do better because not that many swarm

enemies are mostly single

also i got eunectes on KR, then double hool on JP

im coping

EN account will be better

[gray stone]

When Eyja S2, always

[ornate siren]

for i realize i didnt equip hoshi modY

[storm current]

do you want uh

different set up

also no horn?

[ornate siren]

no

not even thorns

[storm current]

well

[ornate siren]

tho actually

[storm current]

i used lapp for bot

even nearl alt s1 work

[ornate siren]

as you can see im vacant 3 slots

i just need to sub bag, later on

because that one idfk mob nukes ptilo by aggro

[south bone]

Who nuke her

[ornate siren]

this mf

[storm current]

caster will do aoe dmg

btw

[south bone]

Oh that guy

[storm current]

you can attack his attack

like

hit 5 times

[south bone]

^

[ornate siren]

[south bone]

He put something on ur ops to stun them

[storm current]

basically, you see how he put a cross on your ops

[south bone]

destroy it

[storm current]

you can attack the cross to destroy the stun

[ornate siren]

oh yeah that

but most of the time stun is serviceable to me since i have enough block

but i just need to reorder the deploy so they dont go off targetting my medic

in such case, bag

[south bone]

Oh wait just realized the laser isn't going bottom row

[ornate siren]

because hoshi was stunned atm

[south bone]

Wait that's true

[ornate siren]

if i had hoshi modY on,

i could actually first clear it

but nah ofc three golems had to come in same time

sp disruption wise, myrtle or texas s1 is actually better

[glass monolith]

You "can". Issue that shit doesn't have taunt and ignored by entire roster

While in comparison Eblana's "what the hell is this" and Talulah's fire crystals having taunt

[storm current]

just settle with texas s1 tbh

350 is free

you only use your frd on 350+ really

[soft crystal]

Should i mod kroos first or lin, lin probably right

[ornate siren]

this one better works, especially when its all my own units to unlock proxy

[topaz hollow]

Tried to copy kyo's guide but somehow my mountain always die due to corrosion damage even though hes lv90 S2M3 with the same deployment order. what went wrong? my honeyberry is S1M3 but lv50. am I supposed to take her up to lv90 as well?

[ornate siren]

yep, nailed it

[strange fable]

lin

[jovial nest]

don't copy a guide if levels and pots are below what you're copying

[ornate siren]

kyostin's highend is far more expensive than ss

[versed arrow]

if you look at your skills, you used saria s1, kyo uses saria s2 in his video. Thats what went wrong. You can use saria s1 if you want but then you have to put a medic left of mountain to heal him, prob has to bring a robot then to bait the boss skill.
btw, my e2 lvl60 honeyberry on s1m2 works fine for that stage, so its literally a wrong skill on saria case aka skill issue

[latent monolith]

do you guys think this'll work for the anni

I can bring like texas yato and stuff if I need to ig

[versed arrow]

if you want to use chongus, just put him on the left. I think he will leak at that position when the mobs from left side moves to him.

[latent monolith]

In this situation he's also helping the top bottom lane tho

Ig I can also put someone to his left

[versed arrow]

you can try, ifrit kills fast enough in my run. the most I had to do is drop texas/yato

[sly drift]

Need help for 12-4

H

Man.. wtf is this

[glass monolith]

He thinks it is bad. Meanwhile CN already knows about H13

[sly drift]

How bad h13 is

Cant judge before trying it first hand

[glass monolith]

It will have funny H9-6 like stage

[sly drift]

Idk but it looks less complicated than this civilian bs

[latent monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/942391421258854421/1167169744667955272/image.png

[sly drift]

Does lee s3 works?

He's tanky too

[latent monolith]

Kinda yea

In fact the clear is using him

[sly drift]

[latent monolith]

But the boss is in the middle of that btw

and the kill meter is at 75/75

[sly drift]

How do you rate the stage

Does it seems harder than h12-4

Cc aside I think H12-4 is certified hardest on the game rn

[vocal leaf]

after a while h12-4 is not that hard

[sly drift]

The hardest part is obviously figuring out the answer of course

[vocal leaf]

at the end depends on your roster how easy it can be

[sly drift]

Yea..

What to pick
Where to place
How to time

It tooks several attempts to finally nail it

And the time I tried h12-4 for the first time was like "Wtf is this bullshit"

[vocal leaf]

for me the main problem was stalling the boss for too long without reason, that and the stupid explosion that sometimes caught me off guard and killed one of the ranged units

[topaz hollow]

ty sir

[glossy drum]

It's been months guys, I have came to the conclusion my failed brain cannot complete H11-4

So I finally asking for help

This is what I got https://imgur.com/vvBnyMa

Help me form a strategy

[glass monolith]

Stall shit out of boss with someone maxed Hoshi/Nian, or take someone Stainless S3 and give 36% DR to your operator

[glossy drum]

Ok why won't imgur upload multiple images in one post

[glossy drum]

Stainless s3 gives damage resistance?

damn

[glass monolith]

Turrets talent - operator behind them have 20% physical DR

Stacks multiplicatively with itself, gladiia module and shelter

So just 2 turrets buffing same OP is 36%, Gladiia + Quercus is like 60% on AH when they are full hp

[glossy drum]

Upto this point I did try tanking it with skalter S1 and dps it with Mlynar and /or Ling dragon hp but that was failure as well

Haven't tried Nian, I did altho try to buff army ebenholz hopping to oneshot his phase 2 but I cannot seem to achieve that, maybe I need reed

[glass monolith]

Due H hp buffs one shots are very unlikely

[glossy drum]

I think I can tank, but when it calls the lightning, my whole setup falls apart

It's the ligtning on 2 sides of the map that is getting, with skalter s1 I can tank it but when it flies is when problems are created

[foggy grove]

you have ng

plop s3,use cage

[glossy drum]

oh damn that sounds nice

I recently got her and gave her a mod should try

[glossy drum]

cage can attract lightning right?

[foggy grove]

yeah

it's target highest max hp

cage has thicc hp

[glass monolith]

Lighting can be countered by more corpses in 3x3 box and making second lighting go somewhere else

Btw ambushers high res and dodge is a great corpse to bait some lighting off operator

[glossy drum]

dodge

nah I ain't malding dodge

altho ambusher I could try

[boreal magnet]

so can someone help me to not screw up in this map?

ive been 399/400 like 4 maps already

[glass monolith]

Stop losing civilian

[gleaming lodge]

Essentially you want to spawncamp everything

Now that we have fortresses it's pretty easy

[boreal magnet]

my discord lagging

its back

okay so just spawncamp

i think i missplaced fia

[zealous otter]

Fiametta died because of those enemies that shoot something. The score is 399 is there any way to make fiametta survive?

[storm current]

yes

you can put the dragon far behind

what happen is the aoe caster since they will hit dragon + fiametta for double splash

which insta kill fiam

by putting dragon behind, the caster will target thorns or ling which doesnt cause splash

altho i suggest running a medic for ling/thorns

[zealous otter]

Oh so i just need to replace the dragon? Beside myrtle?

[boreal magnet]

fug

[zealous otter]

Is it better to use shining or saria in this map?

[waxen swan]

Isn't that the easy ice anni

[storm current]

which lane

i assume your bot lane have no problem

you prob can go shining here and retreat the dragon behind skalter

or rather

you can go horn bot lane instead

[zealous otter]

Hmm actually some slug can leak if the dragon behind skalter retreat. It almost get inside the blue box.

[storm current]

it only happen once

[boreal magnet]

atleast they give mlynar for it lol

[storm current]

if it happens, just use texas

also

are you borrowing ling or something

[zealous otter]

No i borrow skalter

[storm current]

you can use horn in mid lane

ling should hold bot

[zealous otter]

Oke thank you i'll try

[storm current]

thorns can be tile 1

he doesnt need to be beamed

horn on tile 3

[zealous otter]

Ok thanks

[brisk pollen]

where did i leak???

[jovial nest]

possibly top lane. The hat guy could've stunned Hoshi for a while before Blaze woke her up

[turbid lagoon]

Considering blaze isint in the beam she probably took to long for skill

[boreal magnet]

made some adjustment

[torpid depot]

I have a few IS3 questions. How long do I have to get rewards? What resets at the end of the month? Also, where can I get Erato?

[waxen swan]

-What do you mean how long just finished the run or die
-The monthly quest reset and you get new rewards node
-Erato is in cc shop

[torpid depot]

Will IS3 disappear at the end of the month? If not, how long will it be around?

[strange fable]

forever

[foggy grove]

it's perma

[river atlas]

Permanent content

[strange fable]

is3 just updates next month

But it will never go away

[river atlas]

The only thing that disappears at the end of each month is current monthly missions

[torpid depot]

Ok. So I can chip away at it over time.

[river atlas]

Yep

[waxen swan]

Like you can ignore it for a year and your not missing anything

[torpid depot]

Thanks! AK still has some mysteries to me. 🙂

[novel pivot]

Erato perma gone unless you have cc token leftover

[torpid depot]

Ok. Got it.

[waxen swan]

Erato more like eragone

[novel pivot]

can always just scrap from the training ground

Maybe you'll get enough for 1 copy

[torpid depot]

Ok

[novel pivot]

dk how many map there is

i forgor

[river atlas]

Wait til CN gets cc1 before saying for sure erato is gone

We dont know how they will handle the shop yet

[novel pivot]

surely will comeback

i need to buy the 5* token

I have 100 token left and i cant spend them on anything

[waxen viper]

Guys I'm having problems with h12-4 this are my best units. I think my main problem is that my healers are too low level. Do you think is manageable with my units if I borrow a medic or should I wait and level up my own ones?

[river atlas]

Borrowing a nightingale should be all you need

[waxen viper]

That's what I think too, do you have any suggestions on who I should definitely use too?

[river atlas]

Chen alter, silverash, exusiai, saria are pretty much instant include

[waxen viper]

I think Kal for left lane, hoshi and saria to tank and I'm not so sure Abt DPS

[river atlas]

No mlynar is a bit unfortunate but still doable

[waxen viper]

Yeah, I see everyone using mylnar but since I'm f2p I only pull on limited and I'm missing some of the normal 6*

I've tried to use tequila and it's ok until drones

[vital arrow]

skipping mlynar is kinda weirdge

but ig if it works it works

[waxen swan]

No it's just weird

[river atlas]

Kal can hold the top left as long as you periodically replace monster to reset his defense

[waxen viper]

I think I wasn't even active during his banner

[river atlas]

Could try surtring the boss maybe…? Not entirely sure how well that would go honestly

Line 3 clones up across 2 lanes and then surtring vertically should theoretically work

With chen and silverash as supplementary

[versed arrow]

I think this is the main reason tho instead of you being f2p. you can try SA, he can kill the pillar if you have bait for him

[river atlas]

Pillar?

[versed arrow]

the drone, the flying pillar that spawn the beyblades

[river atlas]

Ah yeah

[waxen swan]

Man everyone have problems with them

[versed arrow]

the pillar is not the real prob imo, there are multiple ways to kill them. From what I have seen, the easiest is kill with mylnar/SA/rosa. The main challenge is surviving the phase 2 part 2 and kill the boss.

[deft badger]

3 hours till the event starts?

[glass monolith]

Well if on your planet 116 minutes is 3 hours, then yes

[turbid badge]

yes

[deft badger]

so at 6 CET

i thought its at 7

[deft badger]

lets pull for bag and hoshi till the event starts

[eager gate]

You can open the game and its clock always shows time in the timezone mentioned by notice

thankfully ak takes like half a minute to open unlike some OTHER POPULAR GACHAS

[noble pewter]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NWOpIx_lxv8 this was how I did it, if u borrow nightingale I guess u can replace mlynar with Chalter, n lumen position with nightingale n do flying pillar n trilby wave killing with SA? With no mlynar u need careful who u place as last unit though cause probably will get blasted by boss single nuke target, n if u try refresh monst3r spawn it might become new target

[waxen viper]

Omg tysm I will try this

[noble pewter]

There is also some commentary subtitles in the video that hopefully help make some things clear too

[cosmic thicket]

https://youtu.be/Dkwnksg5XWM?feature=shared was my clear, no NG but E2 ptilo and lumen were used

Texalter castle and shamare all removable

[deft badger]

that music 😄

[cosmic thicket]

One of the songs of all time for sure

[storm current]

Ye i didnt think of using shamare in h12

[deft badger]

do u know the name of it?
its kinder familiar but i don't know from where

[cosmic thicket]

I originally brought her to do liskarm battery strat
Then I replaced liskarm with cardigan
Then I realized shamare barely does anything in the clear

[soft crystal]

shamare great

50% atk down amazing

[deft badger]

for some reason i didn't even look at the stats of the boss 😄

[storm current]

Oh

Mod1 reduce atk by 10% for 2s

So practically perma

[soft crystal]

(its not so good tbh)

[storm current]

I wonder if that stack with skill

[soft crystal]

it would stack

multiplicatively

[cosmic thicket]

Probably but it's minor effect

[soft crystal]

so 10% becomes 5%

total 55% atk down

gnosis makes use of the mod a bit better cause he can even spread it with s3 and s2

[storm current]

Well

Does it matter?

Cuz he will freeze

And frozen enemies dont attack

[soft crystal]

enemies with persisting dot effects

but that's it and can work with chill if s2 not fully charged

[storm current]

Funny thing is pram mod > shamare mod

[turbid badge]

muelseye steal is on her clones right

[storm current]

Cuz you want to put shamare outside enemies range

What steal?

[cosmic thicket]

Wait does it work with S2 tho

[soft crystal]

yeah

[cosmic thicket]

It says attacks reduce atk

[foggy grove]

ye

[cosmic thicket]

Is gnosis s2 counted as an attack

[storm current]

Yes

[cosmic thicket]

Oh

[storm current]

According to the game

[cosmic thicket]

I thought it was just autos

[storm current]

Every dmg tick count as "atk"

Altho

Offensive recovery account for interval

[soft crystal]

yes

[storm current]

Stuff like

Thorns dot

Count as attack for stainless turret

The true dmg part from mlynar count as an additional hit too

Those matter for stuff that need a certain number of hit to die

[soft crystal]

love having mlynar going 🥶 immediately every swing on tlk

[storm current]

Ceobe and rosa share the same fate

Lol

Number of hit also matter for virtuosa s2

[foggy grove]

melee clone can steal atk and def

[storm current]

But virtuosa should just use d3

Yes ik

Altho

Melee clone is kinda so so

[shell olive]

does virtuosa s2 count dot hits?

[storm current]

Yes

It works on anything that count as additional hit

So stuff like rosmontis aftershock

[soft crystal]

worst part about using ceobe in is3, sees a high def enemy but the gimmick works against her

[deft badger]

well ty game again xD

10 roll lol

i am getting frustrated

[polar crane]

[crisp bolt]

🧂

[deft badger]

this isn't normal.... why do i put money in to it lol

[glass monolith]

10 - Melanite
20 - Humus
AND NOW I SLEEP

[deft badger]

bro i am literally buying packs for no reason if i get everything with a 10 pull

[polar crane]

[deft badger]

lets get the selector and skadi.. f- this

[waxen swan]

Got both

[deft badger]

actually lets make a better one xD

[waxen viper]

I did it borrowing mylnar and replacing lumen with whisperain. Unfortunately the server just reset for the event and it didn't count xD But still I can do it now

[deft badger]

Selector Pack

[crisp bolt]

me taking advantage of the LT switches to make the stage go faster

[deft badger]

finally

now i have all the fish girls

[crisp bolt]

lucky you

I got incredibly bad luck

[deft badger]

i wanna pull for hoshi and bag

but i am not sure about that blue certs xD

[crisp bolt]

[deft badger]

will take hoshi for yellow certs

but yeah bag wan't her

blue certs kinder look like a scam to me lol

[serene umbra]

Aosta is really not good ?

He's an AoE I need one

It's my free pull

[crisp bolt]

aosta is really bad

pinecone is better op

[waxen swan]

And less expensive too

[crisp bolt]

oh yeah the jedis

[serene umbra]

Oh okay

Thanks !

[waxen viper]

I just got mylnar 🤡

[waxen swan]

And

[deft badger]

mlynar op xD

me, farm event shop finish mlynar do h12-4

what is this btw?

[silent spear]

WHY TF IS WC-5 SO HARRd

HOW DO I STOP THESE FATASSES FROM HITTING THE GSWITCH

[deft badger]

about to do that stage

have to fix this first -.-

have 0 books left lol

[silent spear]

Dawg the only time I managed to kill those rocket carts and the fatasses a dog leaked

I can't take this anymore

150 pulls and no muelseye I'm losing my sanity

[short pebble]

muelsyse copies the abyssal hunter passive buffs

[deft badger]

still didn't get there

[silent spear]

that stage was also kinda gay but taxes can just knock them down

I DID IT

had to bring two defenders

Oh shit silence alter is a 6 star?

[deft badger]

got there now, wanted to say whats the problem just put everything that can block down and don't care lol

[silent spear]

the annoying thing are the fat armored people they have an unreal amount of armor

[gray stone]

Chat what the fuck

[full finch]

he thicc

[gray stone]

How much DEF does this guy have at base

[silent spear]

THATS WHAT I'M SAYING

CHALTER IS USELESS

Only after like 6 shots he starts taking like 600 damage

He has much less arts resist though

[deft badger]

ok rocket went brrrt on me lol

[silent spear]

You need 3 block or time taxes

[full finch]

oh yeah

[gray stone]

huh

[full finch]

they have like +4000 DEF and lose it the more you attack them

[gray stone]

3300 DEF
-50 DEF per hit

[silent spear]

Run ifrit

[full finch]

just mlynar

[silent spear]

Or just arts

[gray stone]

I thought it would be like 1.5k ish and not 3.3k

[full finch]

mlynar S3 counts as 2 hits and will still deal damage over 3300 def

[silent spear]

Doesn't mlynar do true damage or smt?

[full finch]

that too

[silent spear]

Cuz chalter also hits twice and she has to dump all her ammo to start doing damage

[full finch]

but mlynar's true damage is a bonus and isn't really worth noting most of the time

[gray stone]

Pretty sure Chalter has better DPH against Mlynar
That is, if you ignore the true damage

[deft badger]

find yato xD

[silent spear]

It's not worth flipping it, the fat guys come faster than the deploy cd

[deft badger]

they can't switch it if a op sits on the down tile

[silent spear]

Really?

[deft badger]

should have put thorns there actually

[full finch]

per attack chalter is higher up to like 1400 def iirc?

[deft badger]

to hit them in to the back 😄

[silent spear]

ines is better imo

[full finch]

but mlynar deals more damage against high def, and more damage in general

[silent spear]

She stuns them too and gives dp

[gray stone]

The entire squad has like 3 arts damage dealer

[deft badger]

she doesn't do dmg like thorns..

and its a bind

nvm u can put something on that tile and they cant switch it

[gray stone]

His true damage comes in handy
But the physical portion has less DPH than Chalter

He has better DPS overall because attack speed

[full finch]

you mean damage per attack

max chalter deals approx 5300 damage per attack

mlynar is ~4400 iirc?

[gray stone]

Funny multipliers

[deft badger]

she good?

[full finch]

she's okay

her S3 can allow other units to cheat death

but like

simply avoid dying in the first place

[deft badger]

w8 can she heal mud and penance?

am reading right now and looking at the skills i think they are right i guess they are kinder

maybe it will be useful once in a while but yeah don't think its worth it

duration 60sec, hmm can she prevent surtr going away when her hp hits 0? 😄

[silent spear]

Wait fr?

Can she heal summons?

[deft badger]

i don't know

[silent spear]

Rip

[full finch]

should be regen

[silent spear]

Ling is gonna get a huge powerspike if her summons could be healed

[deft badger]

wanna know if she can heal mud and can she prevent surtr from going away after her hp hits 0, but i bet she can't keep surtr on the field for 60sec

[full finch]

did you forget the multiple pre-existing options for that

[polar crane]

no, she cant prevent surtr from dying
surtr talent overwrite it

[deft badger]

skalter can

[silent spear]

Who can? Skalter?

[gray stone]

Specter shilling in #help I'm not touching that channel for 2 hours

[full finch]

all sources of regen work

[polar crane]

salmon

[full finch]

including skalter, blemishine S2, perfumer, angelina, etc.

[silent spear]

wtf angelina can?

[deft badger]

blemi skalter are the best at doing so yeah...

parfumer u don't even feel it xD

[full finch]

your perf must be defective

[silent spear]

Lmao

[deft badger]

maybe.. xD

btw prob she can keep surtr up, if her ulty is used before she hits 0 hp and the timer starts

that would be actually crazy from 8 sec to 60 lol

[jovial nest]

btw does Muel's S3 melee work like Eun's S2? permastun during the entire duration?

[stuck whale]

Does maxing Lin to 90 help increase the shield break threshhold by giving her more raw stats?

[waxen swan]

Kinda but like your burning money at that point

[fierce hawk]

God no

Anything beyond lvl 60 is burning lmd and exp cards

[verbal sparrow]

Does mumu replace saga or mountain?

[fierce hawk]

Bro mumu is useless asf

Like fr

No damage

Low duration cc

[turbid badge]

@latent anvil they good

Decent

[deft badger]

i know that surtr counter starts when she hits 0

[turbid badge]

got both

[deft badger]

but what if u use her ulty before she hits 0

[fierce hawk]

It goes back to 5K

Skill 3 is +5K hp

[tall sierra]

What reinforcement?

[jovial nest]

Permastun for 15 seconds to blocked enemies in SL7 (no need for mastery)
in S3 melee clone

low duration my ass.

[tall sierra]

Is it from mumu clones that applied 150% for her?

[fierce hawk]

Useless asf

[cosmic dagger]

surtr talent priority is higher than silence, so you dont get the extra 10 seconds and it skips to surtr 8/9 seconds immediately

we wrote this like 4 times bro please read i cannot anymore

[deft badger]

actually i should read precisely what the skill does say 😄

[polar crane]

still the same results, surtr will die on her own even with or without silence s3

[waxen swan]

Just make it basic and say silent alt suck so dont bother

[deft badger]

its useless anyway its 10sec

[latent anvil]

me too

[deft badger]

saw duration 60 sec was expecting she going to prevent for 60sec

[turbid badge]

Idk if i should spend carnelians tokens on her or ho ol

[deft badger]

but it does even state one and 10sec so nvm

expecting she will prevent her hp one time to fall below 0 then that's it and the counter starts

[tall sierra]

But still cant prevent force retreat ... Like emperor blade

[deft badger]

the force retreat starts when she hits 0

she prevents from falling below 0

[latent monolith]

Force retreat doesn't really kill an op it just removes them from the field

[deft badger]

but its about the duration i was wrong at the duration, was thinking its 60 sec but its just 10

so yeah nvm 😄

[latent monolith]

So invulnerability won't work against them

You should just be untargetable

[waxen swan]

En can't read as usual

[turbid badge]

Mumu and AH

[tall sierra]

How good is the new caster?

[latent monolith]

Easily worst gacha 6 star

Or at least very far down there

[tall sierra]

Ouch

[fierce hawk]

Better to pull on eyja alter or executor alter

Both are one of the best alter units

Though it’s very niche

[latent monolith]

It's not even like eben being a bit niche and tricky to use she just sucks

[deft badger]

u didn't get my point, surtr timer starts when she hits 0
if silence prevents that means she doesn't hit 0 timer doesn't start
anyway if it works or not nvm, since its just 10 sec for one OP i guess or she can prevent it multiple times at the same target then its a different story which i don't think she can so she ain't getting E2

[hearty basalt]

On cw6 any suggestions on dealing with the art bots?

[fierce hawk]

For now yeah after the update eben gonna be one of the few units with elemental damage

Which nukes most enemies

[tall sierra]

Kill asap, the more u stall it the more dmg it will build up

[latent monolith]

If you want to play with her I'll have her raised by tomorrow (I forgot chips during my prefarm )

[fierce hawk]

Lmd rewards on this even is a lot

500K I think

[latent monolith]

It's 600k like other 3 week events right?

[deft badger]

who mumu or silence ? 😄

[latent monolith]

500k is usual for 2 week ones

[fierce hawk]

Weh? 600K more for the next few weeks?

[latent monolith]

Silence

[tall sierra]

So we can only 2 research per day huh

[deft badger]

add me wanna try it but i don't think its worth it anyway if its just 10 sec per OP, her skill duration is 60sec

[fierce hawk]

I made a big mistake and wasted 2 research on 2 separate quest thinggy lol

[latent monolith]

I don't do prefarms in ak for gacha units because guaranteeing is

So I usually have to throw pots on chip stages the day after they release

[polar crane]

prefarm is a curse

[latent monolith]

(since for some reason every time the day they release doesn't have the chip stage)

[polar crane]

they obviously want to sell chip pack

[latent monolith]

I do it in genshin because I can expect to guarantee someone easily

But not in ak

[fierce hawk]

Ak has very low pull chance

Without spark / rate up

[polar crane]

I dont know anything about genshin sorry

[fierce hawk]

Or my luck is just bad

[latent monolith]

It has high pull chance

[deft badger]

@latent monolith did send u my ingame tag in to a PM

[latent monolith]

But just no guarantee

[fierce hawk]

300 pulls for guarantee

That’s like 500$

[latent monolith]

You can keep losing a lot

[fierce hawk]

Up

[deft badger]

not true, when it comes to my stupid acc.. i am even getting mad for putting money in to packs which i don't get to use

[fierce hawk]

Eh? Which ones gotta stay away from those

[deft badger]

i buy monthly packs and event packs that are similar to monthly and pricing

[fierce hawk]

Monthly packs are good I guess

Not the best

[deft badger]

but still i don't get to use pulls its just stacking up like crazy i am nearly at 900 now

10 free and yeah ofc i got her on the first 10 free

since i did roll 160 on chong its all 10-15 pulls for me

[cyan gorge]

Huh looks like Silence2 talent actually works on summons

[deft badger]

ty for the info

at least i have now something to heal mud and penance xD

[fierce hawk]

Skill 2? Talent 2???

[hybrid finch]

Why h12-4 is so hard

[waxen swan]

It's call hell for a reason

[fierce hawk]

Cuz it’s meant to be hard, I suggest waiting to get eyja alter before trying h123-4

[waxen swan]

That such a shity advice

[cyan gorge]

Just her talent heals unhealables, s2 is normal healing and drone only provides sanctuary

[deft badger]

maybe i should E2 perfumer and then say i don't feel the passive, skalter has 10% she 5% of atk.. atk difference isn't that big so i guess its just because she is E1 that i have feeling she heals nothing

[cyan gorge]

Silence2 has low base atk so 5% per sec is practically nothing

I barely noticed it even with max level

[waxen swan]

Copium 5% fr fr

[cyan gorge]

But at the same time it's combined with about 20% sanctuary

so it kinda balanaces out

even more when using s2

[deft badger]

talking about perfumer since i kinder did say her passive is a joke, but did calc it now sklater does 42hp per sec, perfumer 29 per sec + mod

[cyan gorge]

Yes comparing a limited 6 star to a 4 star is a valid argument

[waxen swan]

I really feel sanctuary is a scam

[gray stone]

It's not

[cyan gorge]

Sanctuary was the only reason I survived H12 stages

[deft badger]

i didn't compare, i did say perfumer passive is a joke since my is E1 i never did have the feeling she does heal a lot
but i know how a skalter e2 does 😄
so numbers just to know, conclusion perfumer passive heal is actually nice xD

[waxen swan]

Skill issues

[turbid badge]

anyone raised ho’ol how u feel about s2

@dwsopey

[cyan gorge]

Yes it's skill issue to use the best tools I have at my disposal

[waxen swan]

Please dont use s2 just s3 her if you really want

[jovial nest]

which lane does Mephisto go to in 5-10?

top or bot?

I'm aiming for Kal's 2nd mod req

[cyan gorge]

Just kill him where he idles

[jovial nest]

yeah by this point old content is so much easier to nuke

[verbal sparrow]

You can beat it more easily with future ops, but you can also finish the challenge now and join our suffering

[turbid badge]

Oh crap

Solalter

Silalter

[verbal sparrow]

I do respect people who have gone through all 4.
The trick in h12-4 is to recognize you can indeed stall the clones by swapping operators to refresh their DEF.

[verbal sparrow]

Kal'tsit could stall one clone by swapping with.... Myrtle.

[gray stone]

The trick is Shining S3

[verbal sparrow]

Then during the 2nd phase you have to burst down the boss quickly, with nightingale summon tanking his ranged attacks

[hybrid finch]

Can I see anyone’s team for h12-4?

[lapis hornet]

honestly I just did mlynar thorns bunch of blockers bunch of heals

[agile pond]

How do I beat PR-D-1? Just started the game so I don’t really know what I’m doing yet

[cyan gorge]

Which one is PR-D again? Which chip stage?

[hybrid finch]

I guess my skill is trash lol

[agile pond]

Guard and specialist

[verbal sparrow]

missing are saria and nearl who died

[polar crane]

show you squad for the stage

[verbal sparrow]

no don't think so, the stage is probably the hardest I have seen in a while from story stages

[agile pond]

This is what I’ve been trying since there’s barely any places to put ranged ops

[polar crane]

bring a sniper

[cyan gorge]

All I did was spam frd duo and a fuck ton of healing

[verbal sparrow]

does yato even do anything to the boss?

[agile pond]

Haven’t upgraded any of my snipers yet, who’d be the best to invest in? Somebody mentioned Kroos but I’ve got a couple more ops since then

[cyan gorge]

Not for boss, for everything else

mainly drones

[verbal sparrow]

that's a good idea, yato s3 to kill the drones threatening the healers

[hybrid finch]

Ok but I think my squad is pretty easy to do h12-4 just my skill is trash

[verbal sparrow]

it took me 3 hours so yeah

[polar crane]

kroos and may is all you need
for this stage bring may

[agile pond]

Alr will do, ty

[eager gate]

12 4h took like 3 lost tries, 2 hours of procrastination being mad at the game and 1 winning try
It's not ridiculously hard, but boss mechanics really piss me off

BUT
Finally a good usecase for phalanxes

since aoe is real strong vs it

[verbal sparrow]

Lin?

[eager gate]

no Lin can fuck herself until hg gives my other 6* pahlanx with 2 skins a good fucking module

[verbal sparrow]

[eager gate]

I don't understand why 1 gets a GREAT mod but the other objectively shitty one

who made those

[hybrid finch]

Can I see your squad

[eager gate]

its ah with several medics casters Surt and flags and yato

ptilo is an important medic

I think
maybe

[verbal sparrow]

where's the phalanx

[verbal sparrow]

I mean where you put it

is it the chalter spot

ptilo indeed helped me hack the skill cycles

[eager gate]

what is the fucking word

corner. corner near blue

[turbid badge]

lol blob dps

[verbal sparrow]

mumu is joining the meta where the early lane combo for me is already
Myrtle Saga Mountain
How does she fit into this team because I don't wanna use 4 operators for early game

[eager gate]

My trail is going to be lonely after this banner by the look of things

[turbid badge]

tf myrtle?

[eager gate]

pulled Ines and Hool
thank god I didn't pull for Ines lul

[verbal sparrow]

lol luccsacc

[eager gate]

lucc succ

[turbid badge]

agents and tacticans are really fun

[polar crane]

no muel?

[eager gate]

nope

[polar crane]

welcome to the club

[verbal sparrow]

elfless

[eager gate]

hopefully game takes pity by the end of banner

I'm in no position to whale

[turbid badge]

GL

[eager gate]

u2, whether you'er pulling or no

[turbid badge]

[vernal lion]

oh my god

CW-7 with frd op

[eager gate]

This event tilts me

also hovers that are shiftable

[verbal sparrow]

how long did you wait to make that joke

[eager gate]

about a few seconds after I came up with it. Pondered if I should add "in more ways than 1" or not

Shiftable aerials are hype tho

I wish they retroactively changed all aerials

[turbid badge]

whoever notified me of this thanks so much

left is eunectus , right is skadi this is a e1 lvl 55 muelseye

you should tell whats happening behind the stats

probably could be more if i get this

[cyan gorge]

Does anyone have a speedfarm set up of CW 10 yet?

[polar crane]

yato and texas?

[vernal lion]

[zinc fiber]

Can anyone help me make a squad I just reached chapter 5 in story and starting to struggle
Here's all my operators sorted by role: https://imgur.com/a/BTue3q9

[vernal lion]

[rain plaza]

can i stack sanctuary

like penance and salt

[jovial nest]

ooooh interesting. It's more like a king of the hill than constantly shifting

"rock"

[rain plaza]

playin with big "planetary debris"

[foggy grove]

Shelter is highest apply

[rain plaza]

aw man

i also just noticed she can only save one op

[cyan gorge]

I like bosses with low def

[rain plaza]

yah she melted

i was expecting another candleknight and all

this map and fight was fun nevertheless

she can get crushed by my planetary debris anyday

[cyan gorge]

It was fun the first time, but now it's an allow farm

[rain plaza]

cleared everything available in a n hour

bruh

[cyan gorge]

3 hours more like

[jovial nest]

no one's asking you to speedrun

[rain plaza]

i was free

[jovial nest]

And here i was taking 1-2 hours in deciding skin purchases, pulls, and raising ops and modules

[cyan gorge]

I'm speedrunning pot6 Silence2 then I'll chill and read story

[rain plaza]

2 minutes of ooooh salter and e2ing her

[jovial nest]

Silencer heh

Salter reminds me too much of FGO

[rain plaza]

lmao

i wanna read this story tbh

i usually skip this stuff and i always feel bad ab it

[turbid badge]

:8@3!,34

silencers pretty dooe

dopepee

[jovial nest]

then backread the other events then

[rain plaza]

but considering that this seems to be playing into the endfeild game

[rain plaza]

thats the plan

does AK have like

[jovial nest]

it's not

[rain plaza]

a book series

[rain plaza]

they goin into space

and endfield is in spacew

[jovial nest]

endfield's shaping up to be kind of like an alternate universe

[rain plaza]

aw man

Altknights

[jovial nest]

have you ever thought that it might not be the best of idea to make Endfield be an AK sequel?

cause of SPOILERIFIC stuff?

[rain plaza]

chill bruh

i just like ak

[jovial nest]

it's time to backread then

arknights have so much worthwhile good writing

[turbid badge]

bah bah black sheep

[rain plaza]

the design of everything is just so good

the architecture, the props, the characters

no npc feels bland even

[turbid badge]

Yes

[rain plaza]

except for reuinin grunts

lmao

hollow knight lookin

[jovial nest]

i call that ch0-3 curse

after that, even reunion grunts get more personality
starting from Yeti squad, to Phantom crossbowmen

[rain plaza]

yeti squad goated

[jovial nest]

i prefer Phantom crossbowmen cause Faust saved those bros and now they're trying to carry their weight in Neo Reunion

[rain plaza]

wait

this was what i was supposed to do?

maybe im just dumb bruh

[vernal lion]

ok the funniest one

[rain plaza]

thats 100 percent the intent

is this magallan activities

wait how is that stage unlcoked for you

that wasnt there for me

[vernal lion]

nah it's just meme I saved from 6 months ago

[rain plaza]

how????

[vivid gale]

What should I get

[cyan gorge]

Stainless

[signal wolf]

^

[rain plaza]

saileach

do not get stainless

[signal wolf]

Just myrtle it

[deft badger]

wow

[vernal lion]

you need to kill that shit outside of your defense tho

the explosion that followed is nut

[jovial nest]

ok so

wth happened. Why did a shield guy remove my switch priority?

is it because he's heavier?

do i have to go 3-block to nullify them

[eager gate]

Doesn't look as funny as cars but good enough

[deft badger]

nvm ines bind...

[rain plaza]

nasty aah surprise

i walloped it with gnosis and it whopped back

and the nasty little creature popped out too

https://tenor.com/view/pvz-plants-vs-zombies-gif-9647119

literally

me using angelina to stop enemys from pressing buttons

[eager gate]

Ange user
Respects

[jovial nest]

so anyways

if i place a 3-blocker on my switch, no enemy can override it?

or can they if they keep piling on?

[eager gate]

Can the enemy override a switch at all?

It literally says the other switch is disabled

[jovial nest]

i used Ines to down switch

but then for some reason, the shield guy was able to use the up switch

[eager gate]

was she hit by agent

[jovial nest]

oh fuck....

so that's the gimmick

[deft badger]

whats the best place..

[jovial nest]

CA-5 like usual

[deft badger]

did look at the shop u cant buy them so i guess that i have to run those stages

[jovial nest]

or wait for dailies

[deft badger]

never did farm them..

xD

[vernal lion]

you just need 1 block tho

[jovial nest]

a mob can -1 block when attacking

so it can make you not-step it

[vernal lion]

then 2 block

[jovial nest]

I'll go for higher since each of the mob can stack those, right?

[vernal lion]

no

[jovial nest]

either way, I'll protect my switch rep better

[timid acorn]

it doesn't matter how high your block is if the op is placed on the switch the agent will reduce it to 0

[jovial nest]

do these guys have a cap on how low their DEF and RES go?

i'm sure they have a cap, right? or else marksmen would destroy them

[jovial nest]

oh yeah right. Man if only these enemy types appear once the gimmick is in place

i read it before the grav switch and didn't backread

my bad

[vernal lion]

3300 def and 60 res,
lose 50 def and 2 res whenever they take dmg

[jovial nest]

can it hit 0?

[vernal lion]

yea

[turbid lagoon]

Can it hit negative

[jovial nest]

so Marksmen on advantageous gravity hahahaha

[vernal lion]

this one is just anti heavy dmg, so marksmen being good again in this event

[jovial nest]

finally, an enemy wherein marksmen are potentially the best solution

cause they sure have not been my choice against flying for a while

[vernal lion]

yato can shred them like 80% hp

[jovial nest]

oh and the flying enemies can't fly when against gravity

[jovial nest]

good point. Ya2 has insane ASPD in S2

[turbid badge]

[vernal lion]

funny thing is if you apply enough debuff on their mspd, they won't fly up btw

even they are in same way to the direction of gravity force

[jovial nest]

which ops can apply that?

the only ones i know that are easy applications are Mostima's modules

decel binders I can imagine

lemme try this gimmick without cheese first

[turbid badge]

Earthspirit

mostima yeahh,

maggie s1?

[tropic valve]

I mean, 3300 DEF

just kill them

[turbid badge]

my fVorites got glammed out

whats the worst enemy in this map(

[jovial nest]

I'm just talking about the flyers. Those shield guys....well I prefer high aspd heh

yep

Mostime mod3

just...makes the flyers never fly

[vernal lion]

50% mspd debuff seems like enough to not let the jetpack dude to fly

[eager gate]

do they just walk into holes

[vernal lion]

their default mspd is 0.8 tile / sec ,
the gravity can boost their speed up to 164% mspd after 4 sec

[jovial nest]

thats the point of the stage

[eager gate]

I just used a sniper

[turbid badge]

holy crap dorothys Simulation was fun

[jovial nest]

I'm still doing trust clears cause i still have more than 12 ops below 200%

[turbid badge]

did it with a defective m2 no mod

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrDxbwE-hTU&ab_channel=Sayuna

[short pebble]

wait does gravity affect operator attack speed?

[eager gate]

ye Dorothy sim was interesting

[jovial nest]

if you're on "high ground" high ASPD when they're facing "downward"

[short pebble]

oh i completed all the missions and didnt realise

[vernal lion]

same direction to gravity = bonus 25 aspd
opposite direction to gravity = lose 25 aspd

[jovial nest]

ah yes, the tutorial skippers and non-readers

[short pebble]

the enemies were too weak for mechanics to matter

[jovial nest]

that's what EX CMs are for

enjoy next week

[vernal lion]

you just haven't reached to S stage yet tho

[jovial nest]

oh yeah

so its like DV?

have secret stages?

[silent spear]

you could skip the grey stages?