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he not immune to bind?
He can be bound
I used Ethan on H12-1
e2 bp?
witth ur team it shud be simple
i only have e2 BP and E1 max Krooster
i can borrow exu
i still strongly suggest the pozy carry clear
You will want to nuke top left side first
Because they will spawn agitator
its like a 5 op ish clear iirc
I get you; I prefer to not look at yt until I've done it myself
i do like avg of 3 to 20 hrs of trying and thinking before going to yt lol
fug place her at wrong place 
yeah, watching how others finished it on yt after i clear it entertaint me
basically what i do on h12-1 and welp yt doesnt help at all 
i did it for h12-1 -2 and -3
now on to -4
tho chances are i wont be able to do it in time so ill just wait until eyjaberry
U should probably consider bringing more defenders
surprising for -1 and -2 yt helped quite alot
then -3 was like 5 diff vids plus my own thinking to clear it
which was gay
totally need more deffender
Is cement a good operator?
no shes terrible
no stop spreading misinfo cement is hoshi but btr
But she can't even block 2 dogs 
I don't understand
Game just hates you 
"Nowhere is safe, deal with it"
middle
then honeyberry move up
so poz typewrite can burst left side
and the agitator
can use defenders and frd to bait beyblades
top left you mean, she gets killed by beyblades at top right
no
top right
i did top right
and i won
u probably just didnt bait for her correctly
also timing wise if s3 not m3 then u also lose
u actually nuke the right side one first
then u deal with left side
skill timing is quit tight
how are you going to kill the agitator on that tile then? cant put writer on the melee tiles and there is no range tile to hit him when he is in the position in the pic above
typewrite has 5 tile range when skill up
its just nice to kill left most high ground tile point upwards
if u time it correct it def works cos it worked for me
the only problem is dp cap, i cant deploy deffender fast enough after healer to bait beyblades
since u refuse to watch yt
the way its done
if you want to hear it
is at start deploy mountain
uh huh
then yato s3 clear right side beyblades when they spawn
then poz
so cos the tower comes downward
so in the middle most bottom high ground theres the ground tile
yato s3 frm there right side
then poz get s3 up
if you clear by yato first, just clear the left side in the first place and put pozy there and writer kill right side, its easier
fine wtv u teach the guy
im just suggesting what did which worked the second time i did it
chill guys, this is strategy for a reason
i apreciated both yall
fyi typewrite and poz clears right side tgt then typewrite yato kills both drone and agitator left side
but sure
i killed left side first since the agitator is on the left side, there is no rush on right side. there is enough time to kill it before 2nd wave anyway. after you clear left side, you can put your mlynar like in one of your pics above but face up, he can kill the pillar from 2nd wave and the last wave of enemies from the top red box
Man the fuck was that 
imagine waiting till the end
This level pissed me off at first by killing my snipers, but then it turned out to not be that hard at all
Lunacub I just mastered turned out to be real useful
how to clear H12-4
i dont understand how tank 3 bosses in phase 1
idk whats going on but my team that i used in 3 doesnt work at all the boss doesnt even come out 😂
I would like to help but my understanding of what is going on is at same "what is going on" level 
I give you a bullshit answer
I can't even call you out on rarity abusing because i too had 3 limited... + entire AH + Mlynar 
the issue is,
- if you stall each boss' clone with each op, it will spread out the dmg, but then you need strong aoe healing to do that, and none of op can do that honestly because boss dps is almost like 2k atk when allies' def = 0
- if you stall 2 boss' clones with 1 op, then the dmg from boss is even higher (almost 3k atk when allies' def = 0), but you can redeploy op to stall just like how 4 star clear beat it
so, if I can stop the delay and kill it faster, it won't be any problem later
in the end, all you need for this boss is stacking all the clones together and kill them at once with your high burst aoe dmg
at 3 clones you shouldn't be stalling anymore, just hitting it full send
2 is a maybe
I'm aware there are setups that can stall 3
but it's pain
boss is 404 dps each. slightly more as more clone spawns due to global skill thingy but not that much.
in comparison st medic tends to be in the 300+ hps range (offskill) , with aoe medic matching that roughly with on average w/ skill included.
this all doesnt even include the drone skill attack
so yeah stalling does requires a bit of setup while not necessarily clearing all the threats.
you shouldn’t stall at all, it’s better to get through her phases asap, amiya+texas s2 was good enough for me, but i also had reed and suzu to speed up the process
it's fine p1 and does help setting up your team. just that on p2 you should try to speed it up and end it before ur ranged unit dies 
I don't understand
Same
i hate this map tiles layout
It's not that bad
boss DR would drag this longer and i will lose in the end

best counter i can think now is back to true dmg again
sure
it just not fast enough thanks to DR and my aoe rng
cycle blocker another option but hope i can avoid that
Feel like boss punished you if you hit too hard
So basically first thing you want to get on a low level account is some sorta beeg damage carry, one of op units(if you don't want to use your head and complete stages with whatever you have on hand instead), then you slowly fill niches you lack and are in need of in the closest future: blockers, self sustain, aoe, arts damage, displacements, aerial damage etc. Remember that you don't necessarily need to fill these with 6* s. Main power of 6* is often combining several of those, or being overwhelmingly, unnecessarily good in 1
it's perfectly ok to just waifu game from the earliest stages. The only objectively most important thing is get your base done
man I want it to be tuesday now 
boss skill is timer or whatever its called
clones just force you to drop another blocker (unless can tanking 2 clone at once safely)
Cutter has solid damage
Hey guys which ops is good to e2 first
Your DPS
One who can kill enemies 99% cases
Myrtle and S1M3 her if you want some good DP generator
Cutter if you want more DPS
He said first, so we can assume he don't have shit to deploy with Myrtle DP 
being honest, no
its not being difficult or something
can imagine how boring i would be if using 6* for this chapter
even with 5* only can just breeze it without a lot of effort (this already bored me)
i didnt rush clear h12-3 & h12-4 map simply cause i want to enjoy it more
Which buffer/debuffer would be better for mylnar vs damatzi? Suzuran or shamare
yeah
idk, for me it more like 'oh new chapter, just clear it and forget about it' feeling
maybe lore wise is good
sham s2 better
I didn't had many issue with chapter 12 thanks to Ceobium and little AH. But H stages were beyond my brain capacity 
Just 3 more cycles
Happy Sunday Doctors!
Quick question - is the point of Challenge Mode just to get the currency rewards or is there something more to it?
You can brute force it with double ele healer 
Gives originite prime and medals, that’s about it
Pretty much yes, bonus
which we will cope into skins
Yes - the true end game. 😉
Newest chapter has AE instead CM (same shit, but no lose of half sanity on lose) and bonus material rewards from first timing some stages
I just made it into Chapter 4 myself finally. Got a crew that is mostly E1 L40. Wondering if one should dabble in Integrated Strategies at all?
If I manage to fish all of the h stages without it being too dirty I'm starting a yt channel
True endgame is shifting shenanigans
Oh my purestream mod is done
Or is churning Story really where it’s supposed to be?
IS is permament bonus content, try, die, repeat until level cap of reward stuff
Lvl1 hung nearly solod this defender
Would recommend trying to push story as much as u can during the current event personally
There's 1 day left kek
Honestly 4-7 or 4-9 to unlock last base upgrade and then do literally whatever
Normally you will be busy with actual events, having a dead week to do story isnt actually that common
Like minus said, finishing ch4 at minimum is ideal
chapter 8 cm stages are still a pain even now
idk which is worst, the damn bird or the raging draconic flames
Are the Contingency Contracts essentially the same scenario and enemies but with various restrictions enacted?
It is challenge mode where you given map, crowbar, and tasked to break your leg for reward
And they add handicaps
It is right now off season so you just need to land "First win -> Win with risk at least 2 (2 tier 1 handicaps) without support risk -> Win with risk at least 4 (Any combination of 1-2 tier handicaps) without support risk" for some CC coins for permament shop which is painful memory of me not starting like 3 months earlier to have enough to clear it out 
Oh god how annoying this boss is
I may have only failed 2 attemps but it pisses me off that I have to pull put so much tools while blocking 3 boss bodies
Need anti air burst
Need more than 1 medic
Need aoe arts
Need stealth or invis to not say goodbye to dp
Also need to bring the flag squadron because the start is tight
H stages lead to me pulling limited units to cover my skill issue (and complete lack of strategy)
Oh and the boss is another ridiculous fucking statstick that you block and look at for 5 minutes
I miss thinking bk is boring
Why do u need stealth or invis 
I am not sure why he don't have Gravel or something to bait funny "drones"
Groups of boys that drain dp
Only usage for camo there is - Camo Mlynar so he not nuked when 4 bosses 
Idk why you need aoe arts either
You can just feed them to Ceobe if you have her
And not like AoE will help much, they come with distance from each other
Chain caster maybe
I'm not actually talking about aoe casters, sorry for not making it clear
multitarget, or something that kills them fast enough works too
the thing is I have to have a whole unit for it likely
Should've at least decide between invulnerability period or DR
not fucking both
Main issue is 6 digit HP 
Welcome to year 3+ of AK i guess
Remember "hard" event bosses having like... 40,000 HP? We don't do that anymore
They probably couldnt figure out a better way to stop people from bursting the boss down
Iirc wasnt pinchout before ch12? So their previous attempt was just to make a boss absurdly tanky and that clearly didnt get received well
well they have malphistobird mechanics
but they could also have decaying shields on health triggers
Bird DoT ends when you kill phase 2, and you can still bruteforce it with enough healing
and it's ok
Me clipping boss bodies into Specter so I could attack 3 at once with SurtHorse in phase2
oh no my horse is kill
alright last stage

which operators can stall damazti by themselves
H or Normal
indefinitely? no one
with a honeyberry, you can stall 1-2 damazti for a while but your op will still eventually run out of def
what about spalter
idk why u think skadi would help
spalter in front of ling dragon can alternate. I did try that. though it requires more than one slot
that's pretty tight tho
true
cuz she a hp stat stick with ah
this is a bit hilarious but I think silverash S2 + wandering medic might be a stalling combo
Need silence alter 
Not sure why you wouldn't just use saria s1 if you needed stalling
She can do it at 0 def 
I stalled in h4 with: guardamiya, saria, perfurmer, pito and tuye
Tuye 
She exists
She is an op that exists
silence is just better in basically every way 
Tuye when operator 50.1% hp: 
Tuye when operator 49.9% hp: REAL SHIT 
does the arknights map planner take into account modules for operator range?
Tuye when operator got oneshot: *oops...
There's like 2 ops potentially saving from oneshots and neither are medics
2-10 is ridiculous
hey does Roberta save from damazti snipe?
Mapark ?
I don't think so
So if I let the boss leak are the other enemies easy to deal with
2 instant dmg
what if I 2 devices
Can he do ranged attacks
nope
besides mountain S2 and silverash S2, are there any 2-block operators with self-sustain ?

E2 Gladiia
Pallas
Whats wrong with 3.5 and 30% dmg resist 
Technically Mr. Nothing on s1, but he has 0 block when he heals 
mod makes her taking less 25% dmg tho
If you are healing them anyway why do they need self sustain btw?
Also gladiia is 30% w mod
honeyberry
But why self sustain 
Is this for top lane on h12-4
for anywhere with damazti yeah

Gummy with a medic can stall 
tbh tho, I tried many times and I pretty sure they will die anyway,
even with healing

Why 2 block, and why self sustain 
honestly it will be easier when eyjalter comes out ig
I just used kal for top lane
I happened to need to E2 her for base so, just decided to test It and worked
Is a Amiya good later in game?
nope
xD
maybe, u will find some use for her prob... but u have to e2 her anyway for the story
she has high res so can be used to stall some arts bosses
Guardmiya is nice
U do know that even click has 20 res, right? This isn't an amiya thing 
click is a caster
They said amiya
gnosis has 30 🙂
nah 25 xD
dude pls...
Amiya just sucks
i lost my screenshoot whete Amiya tank talulah, manfred, hell even some event boss
i didn't even say that...
Amiya sucks
my words have been u can find some "USE" for her probably
🆗
Woah Amiya hate going strong
ty..
I asked so I could screenshot it and send it to my friend who blocked me for saying she isn't meta
was my point her s1 since it has the highest duration u can use that buff she gives and maybe let her sometimes tank arts dmg that's where her use ends when u have couple 6 stars on ur hands
She's far from meta lol
so
🆗
They have it in their status I just love being petty so I had to screenshot replys
in case u want to see her usage in late game
Have you guys heard of bassline
guard amiya can be decent for her rarity
that doesn’t mean she’s meta lol
she’s not even meta for 5* knights
U know i don't check future ops, yuu, let alone m*le ops
she actually my highest res melee op i have build 😄
And you were talking about a m*le operator who is also a 4 star
But he's released
i tell u now, matterhorn better at tanking
than guardmiya
Skill issues
Just play on CN
No shit

i mean yeah but matterhorn is doing 0 damage
guard amiya s1 actually does ok damage for the rarity
ok but that requires raising Matterhorn
why bother doing damage if u bring the ops for tanking anyway, also vice versa
Reading moonrunes ew
will have to build matterhorn then xD
arts tanking is already niche in itself
???? Why would you read wtf
i cant vouch for that, too much hassle
took less tries than I thought, hell comes tomorrow
you will use guard amiya more generally than you would matterhorn
yeah, times i used it only for Talulah and Manfred
is there someone who goes over 20 and is melee?
anyway both of them are probably losing to arts tanking to bassline
Matterhorn is a 4 star tho. V cheap
someone did say it like 2 months ago that there is forgot which op
also you know what's better than Matterhorn? my girl Matoimaru
I just use medic defenders as arts tanks 
Yeh sure, bring nightingale 
nearl vs arts is very tragic though
f- NG its so hard to find one
sometimes their hp just shit
cuz they balanced between res hp and def
bassline
Czerny
bassline has 29res + 15% dmg reduction lol
Asbestos
and that’s with no skills active
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Who needs res when you can stack high hp + raw healing + sanctuary 
why would i do that when i can almost cut my damage i take in half
Sir Gummy with E2 60 and max mod has >3k hp 
(and again bassline heals)
Saria with mod also is over 3k hp
My goat thrm ex
Even better if she has mod y
my bad, i was talking about nearl with 2509 hp at similar lvl
With mod she reaches 3k+
nearl reaches 3080 hp
aight im somewhat still on lv 75ish, so my resource is limited
bassline has 3380 hp if e2 90 max mod + potentials
If only he was 6 star
never saw that op
u didnt read story do u
Crusher moment
nope
thats W comrade on event of darknight memoir, he serve Theresis now
releases alongside ch13
ii believe he is meta now on cn no?
saw him in couple of clearing play
Skull
That's because he is new
he’s pretty good yeah

Just be aware that alot of EN people have been overhyping him a bit because of his numbers.
Typhon is higher priority
Hes a laneholder at the end of the day

Reminder, Chen alter talent to make only snipers not consume ammo while until like insider and typhon only people who could "benefit" from that talent is griefing Ash s2 
The talent in that ss is exalter, unless you are talking about somthing else
didn't even know she can do that
She can. Fucking desync fest
lmao wrong chat
im overhyping hoerderer because we got Buffed men with big pp claymore
ok gas a chace... didn't know that
so we are getting mumu first
i wan't SN, SN is fun xD

yeah gnosis is kinder ok, beside that one boss fight where he solo takes care of it by the higher atk speed buff for range ops
which makes the fight just stupid xD

If we don't use Gnosis, then i call forward Indigo the premabinding one
Any dorothy enjoyers
Indigo came in clutch for me during original SN run 
Hi I am very ethical
E2 60 x3 Lin bulk off-skill: 1024 def with 200 hp shield
E2 60 x3 Lin bulk during s3: 650 def with 600 hp shield
Pathfinder Ballistarius Prefect has 1250 effective atk with ammo attacks.
I can't believe my first test run of Lin has the marginal bulk improvement during s3 actually matter.
Waiting for RA2 aka Rat caster versus army of catapult shooting cheese
Who needs fortification to stop catapults when you have a rat
Did i just said it in reverse order and got "cheese which shoots catapults"? 
Someone do SSS for me 
Yeah NG is what saved me from that
without ng it's not that bad either
At phase 2 the boss burst atk literally can oneshot mylnar if i didnt use her cage bait
The birdcage was the only way I got it to work
Quercus DR and Perfumer's uh... "scents" saved my Mlynar
just redeploy mlynar to reset his def 
Atk debuff to cheese through 
H12 experience in nutshell
bro u know what pisses me off
i beat h12-4 and very shortly after i realize i can cut THREE ops
Without reading the boss' abilities, this is the 2nd time I go full unga bunga just to clear the stage
I fucking hate this boss doing clone shits
After the 3rd clone appear i have to kill the boss asap else my top lane cant hold
My boss solution has been the same each time
Quercus + Blemi s3 outheal everything 
I used saria s2 
Same
i used saria s1 and cardigan to tank bot lane first phase
this is the 2nd time i unironically brought cardigan to an Hxx-4 stage, the previous time being H11-4
I did the same actually
For me monst3r gets deleted at some point and I had to use cardigan to stall for redoploy
oh yeah same
midway thru 2nd phase i swap monster for cardi, before i retreat cardi for surtr
r u sure it's not the cross shape arts atk
hmm
sometimes the boss does a global "corrosion" atk
so if it lands on kal that's probably why
Crap, I really need to push the next 10 levels in IS3 just so i have enough data block mods to actually get some mod levels on Spalter o_O Didn't realize Mumu was coming so soon.
I had to use s3 for monst3r to tank the beyblades
Though it meant taking the health decrease
Are we talking Cluster? I used AH squad cheese haha. They're so stronk.
And for beyblades I either kill the spawner with Exu or bait with Lin.
If game would ever give me AH 
Gladiia restore later this year, maybe
Actually, now that I think about it, you can stun the beyblade spawners right? I wonder if Ash would actually be better than Exu.
Knowing Yostar it can be anywhere from 2023 to EoS of Yostar
U can... Mylnar the beyblade hive near the spawn camp
Then retreat him once both are down
On H12-4 i used Pozy + bait (Texas alter, who i brought mostly just in case and for bonus stall of telefrag boys) on top one, Mlynar on bot one
Mlynar is such a monster, I always forget about him though for some reason.
I purposefully avoid Mlynar normally to keep my gameplay from brain deading further than it already is
I brought yato as backup against the red riot leader
But like Sanity shield, and i physically won't do H12-4 with stuff on my disposal cuz my strategy suc
I have a lot of fun 6 star stomping stuff though, so that's not the reason. Like I often run brainless garbage like this:
or this:
"Find difference between those 2 images"
"That's same image"
Fine, then like this:
I usually have a couple I try to pigeon-hole into things. Then if I need to I have squad 1 as a tech against stage, and squad 4 is usually the one I mod for trust farming.
I set my shit in squad 3/4 and then each CC jumpscares me with it defaulting to Squad 1 which i don't even use
used blitz in H stage
Ash is really nuts against things you can stun.
which one
cause than she hits like a wet towlet paper
Yah, when she can't stun you gotta use Exu or Schwarz or Mlynar or Surtr or Pozy or Horn or Skadi or NTRK or whatever haha 😛
h12-1
oh
at this point i am just confused, past months my roster did grow now i don't even know what to use
it was simple to have 10 e2s and just roll with them 😄
90ing aak is really somethijg
He lives in CN vision so he ready to mod 3 him
I play a lot of IS, and I 90'd him for IS2 because when I would get screwed on sniper recruits, Aak S1 is legitimately good AA.
i ran out of chips to invest in anything 
He can also sort of act as a stunner in IS3. Though I haven't actually tried to use him in that capacity because specialist recruits are so valuable these days haha. I should try Aak and see how it goes.
Not sure on camo, but invis avoids some surprising things. Like the AoE insanity damage from those bleeding flower things.
Cringe of new content escalated to degree when mentioning you use S2 Silverash won't be meet with "But S3 would be better" 
wow
and Lin is perfect bait for Damazti
I love Lin so much. Her mod really escalates her too.
must be the wind
what to u use her to bait?
oh that
yeah i used her alot this chapter
best borrow

Its funny the attacks she can laugh off as a ranged unit. Of course... Sometimes Andreanna is legitimately tankier haha
She just has no offensive power
Funnily I have Lin raised and haven’t thought to use her once all chapter 
shes pretty pog in alot of spots
Lin is so MvP on a lot of chapter 12 stages. But yeah, I know the feeling. Roster is so huge it's easy to forget who you even have that may offer a solution to certain problems.
what does lin do besides trolling -DP snipers and not taking boss DoT on phase transition
Lin does pretty respectable AoE damage, and is a bonkers lightning rod for a ranged unit.
Idk all the Lin spots were occupied by Quercus
is just neat
Secondary Iterations: The Damazti Cluster and all Isomorphic Fragments lock onto an allied unit from anywhere on the map and launch an attack dealing Physical damage equal to 100% of their ATK, with a cooldown of 10 seconds from when the Cluster spawns, and every 20 seconds after.
The biggest issue with Lin in Chapter 12 is her 23 dp cost and the temp DP cap on stages.
so she can tank that skill from damazti
By time you give a shit about boss doing that you either have 50 DP cap. Or dead
gnosis modules great right?
ok
The other unexpected MvP of Chapter 12 for me was Dorothy. Once I realized her S3 mines could reveal spies...
i used ling alot
Since they turned to the enmey straight at blue box i just dropped a ling summon

I tend to not use Ling these days. I used to use her all the time, but I just haven't lately for some reason.
I haven't really used her since learning that Blemi S2 can actually affect summons for when Dragons need more healing than Skalter.
Ling downsides are that she needs DP and slots. I could use her for 12-20 but for H stages other combos seemed better
Yeah. Last time I used her was as a crutch for the first handful of IS3 clears before I learned the stages better.
Or for trust farming of course
H12 give you 9 deploy slots, compared to 12-20 8 deploy slots which is bullshit 
How far into the game is this squad going to take me
You are gonna need more than just a squad. There's no such thing as a team for all stages
That's a tough question to answer, since even with really crazy 6 star teams you'll end up needing to swap ops out for certain stages. It's hard to have a static team of 12 and do amazingly well.
Ill send the rest of my ops
It's more like having two of every role invested in... AA, AoE, lane holder, tank, healer, VG, FRD, etc.
That's why the game is great.
And you can search YouTube for clears with just 4* operators, so one can never say you can't quite clear something
Well how far in this game is relative, outside of stages where your life without fast redeploy is pain, stages asking for more niche strategy (mostly H and boss stages), or stages abusing you with drones you can beat majority of game with it
Heh, yeah, or certain challenge stages where you can't deploy sniper/caster and there's a ton of drones, so you need good ranged guards, supporters and specialists with AA capabilities.
You just started the game. It's the same for everyone so don't worry. Your roster isn't anything unique yet
I started 3 days ago and have just been saving my pulls
Idk when im supposed to actually use them so i want to see how far into story i can go with the units i have
I can tell you that mlynar is the most important operator that is on banner now
He's one that's easy to borrow though...
I have 4535 of orundom and 66 originite prime
I pulled qiubai on my 2nd headhunt and decided to call it 😭
Generally most clear guides will need Mlynar, Chen alter, or Sutr
Sometimes Ifrit or Eyja or Kal or something. But yeah, Mlynar, Chalter, and Surtr are the usual carry suspects.
Because most guides is bunch of 3* operators everyone have and 1 friend support to carry everything
That's the pattern. Though lately the game seems hard enough that sometimes you need 2 6* for easier clearing
As a new player, is the mylnar banner worth pulling on or should i wait until a different event
But you don't have to worry about endgame yet
I mean, there's a limited banner coming in a couple days, but I dunno how meta Mumu is.
So so and most of Mumu power comes from having another operator built to feed to her clone
mumu is the fun op
What are the best feeds anyways? Rosmontis and Mudrock?
dorothy for ranged statsticks for melee
Really, Doro? I know she gets a lot of atk with mods, but didn't realize her base stats were good enough to be worth cloning.
I'd say mlynar is more important but due to the nature of gacha it's uncertain you can get him
Yeah, i should basically just save until I can afford another guaranteed 6 star
I mean, you can also pull for you who like. You don't need meta to clear everything in the game. Meta only really matters when pushing super high risk in CC events.
Next banner is limited which will give you free x10 and free x1 each day of banner (need to login and pull, won't carry over or accumulate between days), with some luck you might even land 6* off it
Or play stupid H12 stages
(Or covering skill issue)
Well, in this game there's a pretty monstrous ceiling for skill... Every time I watch Dr Silvergun clears I'm always blown away by his wrinkly big brain.
Look on "Free operators only H12-4". Look on me. Look on them. Then on me 
H12 stages were for the most part mlynar + defenders + medics + some other dps
Silvergun 3 ops clears on stages where i suffer with 12 is something else
I didn't use Mlynar for either one 😛 I used AH for H12-1 and Thorns + Exu + Ines + Pozy + Texalter etc for H12-2. Rarity abuse go!!!
H12-2 didn't need him yeah
H12-1 didn't either. That one was more about spacing out your ops in a checker pattern and having enough tankiness/healing.
I didn't use him for h12-3, not because I didn't want to, but because there's no more slot
Eyjalter can't come fast enough. This boss would be toast if Honeyberry wasn't so slow
I inhaled so much copium than i managed to scan each civilian in h12-3
Mostly thanks to blacknight S2 fucking sleeping them 
Just need enough to deploy chalter
Wow, I just tried 12-3 for the first time. Definitely gonna take some figuring out, wtf.
you will know why I asked this
2 lane holders/defenders with self heal and 2-3 medics for infinite stall 
I'm trying this for my second run, see how it goes:
You don't need to plug every lane 
Dunno, between her and Pozy or Texalter hopefully? We'll see what happens. If I have to swap to Ifrit or something I will.
Reed s2/s3 can handle the big swords guys on her own
I don't know if you can survive 2nd phase with the DPS
We're about to find out, transitioning now
Hmmm, Gladiia died, and so did Shining AND Mountain, woof.
yes. the boss is buffed here
Nobody:
Boss: 
Doesn't help that I don't have my own Spalter and none of my friend ones use Mod Y, so that's a big chunk of tankiness and healing gone.
even honeyberry can't help when 2 clones bang on a single operator
Drop berry for more raw heals and higher hp blockers
Nothing helps when boss says I MA FIRING MY RANGED ATTACK and nuke same op
Lin shrugs it off if you can berry her.
It lasts until few procs of permament -100 DEF
yeah there's a soft time limit going on, which incentivizes killing the boss quickly, but not too fast that you're unprepared for his nonsense
IT IS HE? 
they / them
me clearing it with saria, ptilopsis, silence and doubleberry:
Quercus, Reedalter, Ptilo were enough for me 
nah I was pointing out doubleberry because of how overkill it was
Silence Alter + AH 
wait can mountain actually hold right side
I just assumed he can't tank the arrows and so didn't bother trying
I found it easier to spawnkill right side with Tex2, less dp steal that way
that's what I did, though I had specter sitting there initially
in the end, all specter did was being a burglar alarm

and when 4th clone spawns she just gets eaten
that was when I realise she did absolutely nothing because everything after that proceeds fine as if nothing happened
Oh woops, I thought I had a cool setup in the middle where I could cleave them all in phase 2 with Mlynar but no one could survive t he phase transition with all 3 AoE auras
Fuck this stage, wtf
lin:
How do the dragons even survive though? Skalter wouldn't be enough right?
Oh oh, Lin, not Ling. How does Lin help?
put her in the middle tile
literally free damage
and the passive lets her ignore the phase change entirely all the while charging like 6sp a second
truly one of the passives of all time
Just need to figure out where to put the healers and blockers.
if it helps, put them in a checkerboard pattern
Well that much I know
👴
this was my setup
whale as fuck I know though
but really the centrepiece of this are lin and mlynar
There was Perfumer next to specter and Ceobe. You know the rest 
paint in action, wasn't sure for a sec at which map i am looking at...
2 days and i can get a SKADIII! 
absolute madlad legitimately uses ticket for skadi the normal
2 days i will get friendzoned by Mumu and go cry myself till Typhon
i will even make a video for u who i buy and take skadi from it ❤️ 
it's not like it'll make me mad
btw, did pull 14 times on mlynar banner
so yeah xD
now can take skadi and don't have regrets
bro
i don't know what else i would like really really need from it
I have 11 logistics permits
I'm actually dead
I didn't realize you could only use two per day

RIP
Brittle Steel
Wtf, what am I supposed to do about the stupid Cluster nuking my healers?
???????????????????
red is more like get at a point, green i really really must have xD
Alright, good luck
Maybe I need a robot to bait or something
god I do not have the mental capacity to do h12-4 after dealing with h12-3
The nuke is cross shape, so adjacent ops take double damage 
Not that, the one where she clones my healer and insta-gibs it
then bait
it targets the op with the least other ops in their proximity
put a vg in the corner or something
oh yeah I don't really understand the logic of this, I had my healer eaten despite another op solo holding the right lane, still cleared but I have no idea why
You have to place before the boss hits 50% on phase 2
Yes
after the invul starts, you can't bait anymore
ah that makes more sense
Wtf, I thought I had it but for some reason Blaze and Lumen died when they don't normally...
During the transition aura
Gonna pickup Stainless with the 6* ticket, is he even worth S3M3?
Depending on your resources, Stainless is worth M9. But S3 is the priority for sur
Yes
please
Lmao hes not m9
s2 gains kinda suck
Id put it off to be honest
just to save mats

s1 and s3 are great tho
That's why I said depending on resources 😛
Someone once told me that Eyja fell off and they can't find a use for her anymore ever since GG exists, and that they have m9 Eyja so they know well how useful she is

... Uhh... Did you tell them they're smooth brain?
whar
arguably having eyja m9 eyja is a mark against them 
M6 is fine tho ;P
yeah
WHAT THE FUCK WHY DOES BERRY KEEP DYING AT THE TOP
God damn what is wrong with this map
Maybe I should use Silence instead of Reedic, she doesn't contribute much dmg anyways
Finally!!! Freaking skin of my teeth, but a clear is a clear I guess.
Can't wait to see what the low star clear guides for that BS look like.
Ok, 4 is also going to piss me off with those stupid DP suckers
fun fact a s3m3 pozy can open without getting hit by the snipers
people use Eyja S1?
resources no problem, part of me wonders if I'll even use him (and other Lonetrail ops)
Normally I enjoy puzzling out difficult stages but H12-3 and 4 just aren't even fun.
Not sure why, but they're not
idk i thought the idea of "grab all the DP cap you can" in H12-3 pretty creative
H12-4 would have been a lot harder for me if i wasn't recording literally every attempt
first time i actually tried to analyze what went wrong from like 50 gbs of attempts 
I think I just hate the "You have to have 8 trajillion blockers among eighty lanes. Have fun."
my problem with H12-4 was doing too much damage I think in phase 2
idk i only needed 3
When i still was figuring a strategy to beat H4 i Lost a lot of tries by giving too much attention to the bottom lane and forgeting to use kalsit skill on the top 
H12-3 is just a slot check
It pigeon holes your strat and kills creativity when you have to devote that many slots to specific roles.
devoting 3 units to holding lanes is nothing new
wdym
Devoting 3 units to the damage cluster is capable of is new though.
you don't need 3 units just for the cluster
Which ends up being more like 6-8 units because heals.
You do in 12-3, I'm still working on 12-4 haha
you have 9 deployment slots
And 12-4 has not just the cluster but also block hoppers. So you need more than 3 lane holders
i somehow got by with 3
if you mean the buffed crownslayers, just kill them
for ashers they only spawn at the end and you can just kill them yeah
SA works to thin out the wave by quite a lot
Yeah the best way to Deal with them ends up intercepting/killing before they get to the blockers
even in my scuffed af run where i mistimed i could just rotate burst skills
So 3 lane holders and as many FRDs as humanly possible, got it.
I sincerely dont see me doing those hell stages without mylnar tho, he was extremely handy
i brought 1 FRD and i actually didn't even need her
I dont have SA, but bagpipe and kyato got the job done unitl mylnar can use the skill again
this was what i ran, castle texalter shamare can be optimized out
step on the tears
and heal whoever is on the tears
try to kill the boss reasonably fast
Can jaye hold the boss
With the rejection
Kinda sucks since he’s good for fighting bosses
I meant relic

wait
how much res
i thought she transforms into seaborn form
you only kill her if you kill skadi form
no element medics
ok
for additional detail
should i try putting cuora on her
and keep spamming texalter
ooh wait
i forgot i had mlynar
oh
just block the sp giving tiles and kill her before she transforms
are the sp giving tiles around marked
they glow golden and look like cracks
ok
this is "tear of isharmlar"
it give her 25sp every 3 seconds if no allies on the tile
you cant get rid of it, but you can prevent the sp
ok
Normally what It looks like when I kill her
get dp
place dps ops
save some dp to helidop ops on tiles
burst before 1st transformation
does silence work on boss
stage is ez af besides boss btw
so you can 100% just commit everything you can on boss for first 30sec
Should I use rejection jaye
lappland is prob useless there
i assume so
the gimmick of boss is basically
skadi form => heal others, tanky, doesnt attack
It’s difficulty 2
seaborn form => deal aoe true dmg, less tanky, transform back to skadi if killed
So Jaye's rejection is mostly irrelevant, but how fast he kills depends on relics
ok
i could use lappland to hold right or left
tbh after placing sail for dp, just place mlynar on the first
then use him + texalt to kill boss
ok
personally I ignore everything else on the map until boss is dead 
because the mobs are free
fair
idk if gummy or jaye would be better for stall
huh
ok
even on higher difficulty pozy almost one cycles ishmara without buffs outside of IS3 passives. So im pretty sure texalt s2 and mlynar can almost kill boss alone
at least thats the way I normally do it
with pozy I mean
im not sure sure if you can active mlynar before he transform
well
if you use jaye to stall
he might eat your dp
which can be a problem
yeah
but he can deal dps to worm
ok so
you can try that
when boss transform to seaborn
use jaye to stab until transform back to skadi form
then nuke with eyja texas mlynar prob
use with texalt
should i replace texas with gummy then since i have saileach
im not quite sure if texas s2 m2 is enough to shred res then
oh
its fine
m2 = m3
its still 30% at m2, m3 doesnt increase
prob here ig
no
gummy
if you havent already
well anyway, early dp in that fight is extremely impactful
boss dead
🎉
my mlynar died twice

i was forced to put ptilo somewhere else
i forgot the tiles changed but jaye held boss
The way I normally do that fight is not nearly that complicated lol
Normally it's just Myrtle Cantabile into Pozy Mlynar bullshiterry
amount of times ive killed ishmarla = 30+
amount of times I've seen her transform = less than 5 prob
and I basically never use mlynar 
she transformed like 3 times for me
well mlynar isnt all mighty if hes only hitting 1 target
guess mizuki gone
wait till ed4
spoilers
congrats!
Rather than more defenders, should bring more healers
Rather wtf stop leveling defenders
Investing all the xp into a single defender would give you significantly better results from the added defense/hp
Just bring ansel and hibiscus
the thing is im in 6-5
those lizard throwers obliterated my team
i wanna keep perfumer for aoe healing
Krooster Carry
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