strategy

[storm current]

hmm

[limpid siren]

very excited to e2 insider and then continue using only kroos

🫡

[storm current]

wouldnt bp be the most unique one

[limpid siren]

kid named april

[storm current]

cuz multitarget and all

[weak gazelle]

and the first to die when not careful

[limpid siren]

mt isn't really that unique

[weak gazelle]

kroos and april if stick with 5* strongest marksman idea

thats all
no need to look the other

[limpid siren]

bp comes up sometimes

[storm current]

insider would be ok for newbie during HE

[limpid siren]

yea

[storm current]

cuz he should be stronger than other marksman except krooster

adn waiting for another 9 months for kroos is prob not ideal

[limpid siren]

depends on the metric

classic st dps

yea he's a strong option

[quick pecan]

insider has a much better time with def

[storm current]

he can deal with UFO i guess

[weak gazelle]

yeah 3rd would be him

[storm current]

high DPH

[quick pecan]

he has pretty nice cycles for a welfare too

[storm current]

and good uptime

20sp auto recovery btw

tho i wonder

how worth it is his mod3

cuz extra ammo

s2 has 14 ammo by default

[weak gazelle]

extra ammo are the best thing to get when it came to camo type of skill

i would mod3 him instantly

[limpid siren]

looks pretty mandatory

[storm current]

prob

[quick pecan]

kinda wish s1 was better

i wanna afk with him

[weak gazelle]

chalter with rng extra ammo already lot of folks value it highly

[storm current]

well

with s1

its basically powerstrike anyway

at that point its just jessica

[quick pecan]

it’s weird bc it’s a burst power strike

[storm current]

but uh

[quick pecan]

bc of the way the sp cost and ammo are distributed

[storm current]

marksman has plenty of afk option

[quick pecan]

i mean yeah

but i want to use him lol

[storm current]

his prob 2nd worst of the bunch

[tidal sedge]

Oh cool he has atk buff on pot 5

[storm current]

ye no talent upgrade

+23 atk instead

[quick pecan]

ill probably just stick with s2

[storm current]

the fact that hes welfare is very valueable

hmm

his skill is already +100% atk at sl7

doesnt gain much at m3, but it means hes strong at e1 already

[tidal sedge]

Hm. I don't get what the pattern of what welfares get stat pot and don't

If there is one

[storm current]

prob cuz his talent is not stat

but idk

[tidal sedge]

I would've thought pre-existing module is the basis but Morgan kills that idea

[storm current]

hmm

[limpid siren]

you said with astgenne that they probably didn't want to ramp her talent again

[storm current]

thats hardly any gain

[limpid siren]

probably the same thing here

[storm current]

no extra ammo
no extra interval reduction
no -sp

just

+30% atk

i wonder if its a good thing for newbie since he doesnt need m3 to function

[glass monolith]

Who is this copium?

[tidal sedge]

Yeah. Because chain casters had module, but then Morgan is counter-evidence to that theory of mine

[storm current]

insider

[glass monolith]

huh

didn't knew he gains priority

[storm current]

ye

prioritize ranged is prob a good thing

cuz of mage

[limpid siren]

morgan is also bad so

[glass monolith]

So basically he is Lunacub but maybe more useable

[storm current]

you mean firewatch?

[limpid siren]

idk how you get lunacub

[tidal sedge]

That true. I've borrowed a max Morgan every ch 12 stage except H stages and was not impressed

[weak gazelle]

prio ranged weapon enemy to help blocker survive longer/better

[quick pecan]

bro has a 33.3s skill cycle assuming mod 3 extra ammo

[glass monolith]

DID I STATTER?

[tidal sedge]

I thought Morgan s2 would be diet Ntrk, but it's outright emaciated Ntrk instead

[limpid siren]

wtf m2

yea morgan is just

not good

[quick pecan]

morgan s2 would be ok if shield didn’t decay

[limpid siren]

s1 unironically being the stronger skill makes her doa

[quick pecan]

why they give her the rat treatment

[weak gazelle]

i plan to build lunacub to e2 but leave her skill at lvl 1

[storm current]

interestig

[glass monolith]

Lunacub pros is she can just stay there after deployment, but yea finding uses for her outside back capping TW towers (like i do in any game with ability to back capture) can be hard

[storm current]

hmm

insider has 28k total dmg

ammo skill isnt ideal for him in this case ig

[quick pecan]

i think the only thing insider is balanced around is s2 not being atk scale

would feel much more abusable that way

bc s1 is atk scale

[storm current]

his skill cycle is basically 13s up, 20s down

so ig low total is understandable

[limpid siren]

ammo skill is probably the balance point tbh

kroos will always be the better buff target

[storm current]

not built for boss

[quick pecan]

i’m still gonna use him bc male

[storm current]

but shoot down mob sure

[weak gazelle]

maybe mob filtering would be more accurate

[storm current]

krooster has 100k total if you allow her to shoot all duration so

lmao

insider main selling point would be that hes easy to use, require low investment and has high DPH to deal with medium def

cuz you just active skill and deactivate if needed

no need for timing cuz his cooldown is really fast

[quick pecan]

he’s getting two s2 cycle in one krooster s2 cycle though

so i guess that makes it a bit better than what the numbers say on paper

or i’m coping

[storm current]

nah

[limpid siren]

they're just built for slightly different tasks

[storm current]

hes high DPH

krooster is better for low def

so yea

different role

i guess hes closer to platinum than krooster

or something

[limpid siren]

ho ly

melanite has three (3) records on arkrec

not looking good

🫡

[storm current]

Lmao

[gleaming lodge]

Is that the lowest for 5* ?

[pearl breach]

I have question for 252 max right base

Which one is better?
3gold2exp factory or 3exp2gold factory??

[foggy grove]

lowest is 0 ofc

like this sad sob

[limpid siren]

it's the lowest i've seen

lmao

to be expected i guess

modern 5*s hit different

i can at least see bryo popping up in some male only runs eventually

• he's fairly new compared to melanite

[gleaming lodge]

0

That's funny

Very sad though

[tidal sedge]

how to clear h6-3?

[storm current]

typically you want 1 gold factory per trading post, apply to other base set up as well

if you run proviso, then shes basically +1 trading post, meaning you would run 3 gold factory 2 exp

[tidal sedge]

nvm i used blaze

[unkempt lintel]

ugh finally done h12-3

[turbid badge]

dang

[cosmic thicket]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/hard_12-03 show me ur placements

@shy tide this was my h12-3 squad, lumen can likely be replaced with shining
honeyberry was only here to slow the def reduction from boss autoattacks

thorns for right lane, texalter to kill bullies, lancet for bait

although u could probably use a vg to bait

[versed arrow]

@pearl breach to clarify on this, its 1 lvl3 gold fac per tp, or else you need to drone your gold fac to get enough gold production for your tp

[boreal magnet]

cannon guy kick my ass again on anni Laterano

[cosmic thicket]

@boreal magnet https://map.ark-nights.com/map/hard_12-01

[boreal magnet]

aight hold on a minute

[cosmic thicket]

okie

[boreal magnet]

some login problem on pc, it takes a year to find Pozee sprite. Thats andreana is Pozemka

and i borrow NG

[cosmic thicket]

i see the issue: when the boss reaches second phase the global attack is actually in a CROSS SHAPE

so you should position ops diagonally to not get destroyed by the arts bursts

like eyja is taking 3 bursts which is very scary, and silence and pozy each take 2 (which is worse because they're not even in NG s3 range)

this was my strat

chungus and saria form a choke point for mlynar to kill everything

[boreal magnet]

those perfurmer and ng always dies first before the medic

[boreal magnet]

hmm i see

honneyberry on the middle?

[cosmic thicket]

yeah

healing the ops who actually take elem damage

[boreal magnet]

my problem is i only got 1 elemental medic to copy this

[cosmic thicket]

that's fine

she's technically replacable anyways

as long as u have good healing sources

[boreal magnet]

howd you manage civilians that goes through chongyus ?

[cosmic thicket]

most of them don't

like some just get blocked at the last second

ethan 20% movement speed slow from mod helps i think, i believe the civilians aren't immune to the slow

[boreal magnet]

i think i can copy some of the layout and make improvement based on my ops

lemme try

[cosmic thicket]

ok

you can replace chungus with mountain perfectly fine if ur worried about block

i use chungus bc i don't have mountain and i brought skalter

[deft badger]

do u leak spys?

btw use skalter, h12-1 drones don't do that much dmg

and will make it easier

[deft badger]

the same way Halley did show u just replace with ur ops

pozy surtr at the end and the boss will die

the only problem u might have is spys on bot since i don't remember u having texas or yato

for those guys

[cinder pike]

surely you can use melantha

[deft badger]

wtb who should i actually never e2 of those xD

just finished stainless, mlynar is next then shamare..

my guess is skip vigil, mostima, mizu, blemi, lin, fartooth, sail

[boreal magnet]

huh, i can try that

i didnt leak spies

[deft badger]

u didn't on bot?

[boreal magnet]

this time sarkaz red swordsman killed my deffender

[deft badger]

then u can do that setup like they showed u

but have a 3 block where his chong is

[boreal magnet]

i can place nearl in front of him maybe

skalter s2 right?

[deft badger]

when the 2nd boss crashes in to ur defender

place 2 tiles next to it a other op

[deft badger]

yes

i do have gladiia there actually

[boreal magnet]

alright ill take a note, to bait the instant death right

rngessus never give me aor guard smh

cant follow this, chongyus leak lmao

the fug is leakinggg

skalter does help with the cross damage

[glass monolith]

Civilian issue?

[pulsar fog]

Weedy 🫡

[glass monolith]

Do you spawn kill "civilians unblockable" shit on red boxes?

I personally had Kroos alter and April deliver them to afterlife

[boreal magnet]

yes i killed them with yato and Centabile

i think i leak red Sarkaz

because he keeps killing my cuora

[vital arrow]

sadge

well you have mlynar and reedic so its fin

[boreal magnet]

moment of truth, forgot to activate cuora skill

my boy mountain solo holding 1 clone like a mad lad

it took me 3 days just for this shit

[crisp bolt]

[deft badger]

why does stainless go on to a melee tile and not range

[glass monolith]

Because his entire archetype is "I don't care supporters are ranged arts operator, I'm going to bonk

[deft badger]

this is fun 😄

[boreal magnet]

bro opened isekai portal

[deft badger]

whats the range of that turret anyway?

saw it hitting drones

[tidal sedge]

E0 Mystic range

[storm current]

You can also say ines s2 range

♿

[deft badger]

1st or 2nd?

ah e0

so first

[deft badger]

clearly one of the funnier ops i got in the past months

[fierce hawk]

How many gold certs does 4 star 5 star and 6 star give respectively?

If I pull one and sell the token for certs

[deft badger]

where do we get them from? i was thinking weeklies give some but nope 😄

[glass monolith]

Red tickets shop, reason why i cope unhealthy amount of AP-5 while everyone farm 1-7

[deft badger]

this is the first time i did run out of them

[glass monolith]

Can't relate because my dumb goal is E2 entire roster

Their income outside buying them is meme, like 1 per event, 1 per monthly logins

[quick pecan]

@lilac silo

we are so gaming

[quick pecan]

two hot women tired of war

[deft badger]

this is the first time i did run out of them -.-

[quick pecan]

i’m doing certs today too

[deft badger]

and i am trying to not farm that stupid stages like ever...

[quick pecan]

work the next 8 hours so i wanna just eat up my sanity lol

[deft badger]

well i did have a lot of red certs but i did buy the royal caster and defender tokens last week

now i regret that i have done it xD

[boreal magnet]

yeah go to hell bazooka guy 😀

i realize something

that mlynar is op af

[deft badger]

worst desicions yostar made, sanity cost of supplie stages

and this xD

[boreal magnet]

why mudrock solo lane doesnt work here

she keep getting blasted by cannon

[lethal dragon]

Mudrock solo is top left lane
But she will need some help

Chongus world wonderfully on bottom right

[boreal magnet]

eyja s2 to help mud?

[lethal dragon]

Eyja will be in range for canon

Horn S1 will be a better option

[boreal magnet]

mine still lv7 tho

[lethal dragon]

How's your mudrock

[boreal magnet]

i borrowed someone s2m3

[lethal dragon]

Oh then it'll be fine

But you want to deploy mudrock last that's going to be kinda hard

[boreal magnet]

hmm dp problems

i will see what can i do

[deft badger]

i think only peanut can hold bot solo

[boreal magnet]

got blasted by cannon lmao

[boreal magnet]

wwho peanut? 🥜

[deft badger]

penance

[boreal magnet]

ah, i might get different result

mudrock keep dying on cannon

had to cycle deffender

feel bad about mountain

[tidal sedge]

skill issue ngl

if he wants to live he should just dodge smh

[boreal magnet]

peanut perform better

[cosmic thicket]

mudrock and penance can hold both lanes for the majority of the map if u deploy helidrops sometimes

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBx9oJskaV4&ab_channel=Tums

[lunar hornet]

does arts fragility (Reed Trait) stack with regular fragility

[vernal lion]

yes it does

[crisp bolt]

It does

[glass monolith]

And then stack in with Chongus event "fragile" and boom. integer overflow

[boreal magnet]

now i dont want to f this up

manfred will go straight to pennace right?

that's enough manfred for today

i deploy chongyue split second before cannon so it hit him

oh theres no h10-4 thank god

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Zz5SpFld8&ab_channel=Yanap

[lethal dragon]

4op is smth of a different realm

[turbid badge]

INES S3

KILLED MYSSS STAKC

lin s1 Is meta

with eunectus beacon she slows every attack

and she has 200 aspd

[tidal sedge]

forgetting where ines knife is when s3 is equipped and pissing off all of the flowers in that is3 map , is certainly not somthing I have done

[tropic valve]

ah I love the bacon

[verbal sparrow]

between kal'tsit + mon3tr, and gavial alter + lumen which would you prefer?
Maybe kal'tsit is only needed when somehow you need fast-redeployment or fight against high DEF enemies?

[tropic valve]

put in Schwarz range but not in straight line range

[turbid badge]

i prefer Monster to be honest

[tidal sedge]

depends on the skills. If it was purely laneholding against consistent enemies, kal s2 would actually be the best

gavalt downtime is also much longer, so without pairing with another operator, she is generally weaker

gavalt is really more wave clear tbh

[turbid badge]

Gavial alter i havent touched her in forever tbh

( i raised her for alter mission)

[verbal sparrow]

we are talking about 2 deploy slots so gavialt is gonna be paired with a medic like lumen

[tidal sedge]

doesnt matter if she cant do enough dmg to kill the enemies for 30 whole sec

thats why i said, she's really more wave clear

[turbid badge]

whats gavial base atk?

[tidal sedge]

of course, in most situations both would work fine

[tidal sedge]

i think with mod it might go just above 1k. offskil dmg i mean, not base stat

[solid dew]

at E2L60 its 704
E2 L90 is 766

no mod

with itll be much more assuming blocked enemies

[verbal sparrow]

I guess my main concern with mon3tr is that even though it's tough, above a certain level of pressure kal'tsit can't heal it fast enough compared to say a 6* medic

[turbid badge]

fair

[tidal sedge]

well thats a very akward situation, where you "need lumen" instead of just doing dps like most people

any other lanehold like kal would also likely fail

[turbid badge]

honestly monsters stun comes in clutch to buy some time, but i doubt people will get both modules

[tidal sedge]

mod 2 aspd is too nice for s3

[turbid badge]

fair

its a extra hit or is it 2

[tidal sedge]

I have no idea it says +20

[solid dew]

its 20 aspd at mod 3, so itll probably be more

probs just take the total ammount of hits normaly and * 1.2 ig

[turbid badge]

34k dps to 39.7k

[tidal sedge]

34k dps

[solid dew]

thats Damage per skill right
i keep thinking per second lol

[turbid badge]

woops

Damage per skill

[tidal sedge]

just say total dmg u weirdo

[turbid badge]

[tidal sedge]

there is not enough kal s2 users in the world

[turbid badge]

the heal is insane

i used it against TFN , arts centurion when all else failed

worked amazing

couldve probably judt stuck a NG + boss killer tbh, but kal could just solo w monster

[tidal sedge]

tbh I just use s2 for the 8sec downtime

other people make it sound like its for aoe and I cringe

[turbid badge]

yea thats the best part about kal kit

fast af

so close

maybe if i had 1 atk & 4 aspd

[tidal sedge]

my plan for every sss mission
gg+aspd
skalter+ atk
win

[turbid badge]

s2 gg?

i just use lin cuz afk

[tidal sedge]

s3

for both gg and skalter

and if I feel like doing extra

I warf buff skalter 💀

[tropic valve]

I like Kal S2 for Sanguinarch

[hoary vessel]

Hello! Can anyone help me out with 6-16? It's been driving me crazy, Pram + KRY + Texecutor can clear her first healthbar, but then she freezes and blows up everyone as soon as she gets out of the stairs...

Also here's my roster so far, I also have a few unused 5* vouchers if there's anyone in those that would help

https://krooster.com/u/T

[tidal sedge]

who is kry

oh nvmd

[hoary vessel]

Kirin R Yato!

[tidal sedge]

well first of all, first 30lvs after a promotion are basically free

so no one, even if it was myrtle should be lv1

[hoary vessel]

Ah didn't think that made that much of a difference, I have plenty of xp & lmd saved up!

[tidal sedge]

and ideally, put your laneholders in bottom lanes as far left as possible

that way you have more space to deal with her in case you cant kill her in time

[hoary vessel]

That would probably help, the issue though is that I try to set up right near the exit with Ling s3, Pramanix, and Thorns plus a gap for KRY again

So she pops out, and boom everyone's frozen and then dead

[tidal sedge]

dont bother lol, just try to stall her and use better dps options

aka yato and texalt

if you start stalling her as much as you can from the start, and just let your FrD's do the work you should be fine'

[verbal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfSxd-jf1NU

[tidal sedge]

[hoary vessel]

Does that need her to be at max potential or have modules or anything? Or would p2s2 max level work?

[verbal sparrow]

you have more than one op

[tidal sedge]

if you really want to do cringe ling carry you can just borrow one

[deft badger]

e2s3

[verbal sparrow]

throw in extra helping hands

[deft badger]

btw ling has a mod? 😄

like she isn't op enough

[tidal sedge]

1 deployment of gravel and texalt

[verbal sparrow]

wait you have thorns

don't know how you can lose then

[deft badger]

put them closer to the spawn first

[crisp bolt]

Texalt looking a bit sus

CN player

[tidal sedge]

[crisp bolt]

My brain did not match her new skin to that art there

[hoary vessel]

No idea actually...

I'll probably try it legit a couple more times then bring in the cheesy dragon

[crisp bolt]

I used Aak to kill frostnova

[naive oar]

i cant take it anymore, i tried 12-20 adverse for hours

pls someone

at this point my brain is so ruined i need a step by step

i even raised mulberry just for this

[tidal sedge]

block the first clone early, and keep the boxes on left from breaking

have you done these 2 things ⬆️

[naive oar]

tried that, but the right needs a lot of attention, and when the second clone arrives things got out of hand

[tidal sedge]

right side shouldnt need that much attention, what does your right side look like

[naive oar]

usually my best tries were a borrowed saria, blaze, a healer and ines

with the occasional yalter drop

[tidal sedge]

does blaze not get though their def or somthing?

[naive oar]

sometimes it feels like too many pile up

the yalter drop may be overreaction on my part if the boss isnt there

[tidal sedge]

1sec

[turbid badge]

vvv???

how

are u dieing to what

Borrow saria tbh

[naive oar]

usually when clones are there

and the dash guy

[turbid badge]

dash guy really?

i killed with siege s3

placemente?

[tidal sedge]

reed s2, thorns, pozy, kal should be able to take care of enitre left imo

[turbid badge]

i have saria hold left like this

I didnt break that box so i didnt have to hold 2 lanes

[naive oar]

🟦X[SARIA]
🟦XX[BLAZE LOOKING UP]

[vocal cave]

Any gg s3m3s here i wanna clear last knight on is

[naive oar]

thorns on the upper half monst3r on the lower?

[tidal sedge]

hold up im doing stage rn for example

[naive oar]

alrighty

[tidal sedge]

start by blocking this dude

[naive oar]

ye, the giga imposter

[turbid badge]

—thats just a npc wdym!—

[naive oar]

weirdly enough my only tries where i got to phase 2 i let him go to my left group

[tidal sedge]

murder

[deft badger]

my problem right now...

6 months later i still have a trauma from that boss

[tidal sedge]

block all
(I wasnt paying attention so they are on one box, but it doesnt actually matter)

[naive oar]

but who can do that job for me? i would need like 2 decent blockers and a healer atleast, yes?

i guess i can use blaze on the right?

oh and what do i do for the bottom of the 2 rows...

[tidal sedge]

tbh Idk if blaze is the right option for the right if you want her to do all the dmg

[turbid badge]

they have full ah??

[naive oar]

ah

well then

whe can do it

[turbid badge]

mhm or just 1

if u dont let them break bottom box

[naive oar]

dont some still try to go there?

[turbid badge]

me

[naive oar]

80% trust lin moment 😦

[turbid badge]

im borrowing

[naive oar]

i would have to borrow the saria here

who is that in front of saria?

[turbid badge]

Bagpipe

[naive oar]

ah

[turbid badge]

just a damage dealer

[naive oar]

well i dont have her either

[turbid badge]

cuz the npc coming is a tanky one

(weak to arts)

its the uhh

[naive oar]

the big fucker that hits hard?

i met him

sadly it feels like all my dps are ranged

tho maybe i can just put a sneaky GG up there or smth?

[turbid badge]

hmm

when are u dieing

[naive oar]

yes

[turbid badge]

how many enemies left

[naive oar]

i have died in many different points

[turbid badge]

whats the farthest

[naive oar]

once with extremely precise management i got to phase 2

then my kaltsit became the boss through magic bs

cant even get to that point anymore somehow

[turbid badge]

u could borrow Mwynar

[naive oar]

perhaps, but then im gonna start lacking defenders again

[turbid badge]

do u use ur mulberry

She helps ALoT

when the necrosis chicks in

[naive oar]

i tried her once on the right side, she got killed by ranged units almost instantly

[turbid badge]

uhh deploy her at the bottom

Mulberry + ur ptilo

should be ur main source of healing

[tidal sedge]

I dont see why this strat wouldnt work provided you fill in the gaps

[naive oar]

i will try it like in the picture GOPfts sent

[turbid badge]

alrighr gl

[naive oar]

gonna have to improvise on the start tho, cant really slap down a penance early

[turbid badge]

ines

[tidal sedge]

do whatever

[naive oar]

ye, probably, and maybe another cheap unit

well then, im gonna be back in 5 min, cursing about how bs this map is

ah i messed up

but so far its looking doable

[tidal sedge]

Remember to use an op to bait the yoink

[naive oar]

got a sneaky castle-3 ready for that

[turbid badge]

lol i just used ines

[tidal sedge]

For me

After she

[naive oar]

Looking good so far

oh nej penance is having some issues

okay, the op yoink was phase 2 at half health, right?

and the newest placed op?

shit, phase transition killed berry and chong

okay i know what i need to change

im getting there

[tidal sedge]

they died to the phase transition alone?

or rather, what I mean is, were they full hp when the transition started happening?

[naive oar]

yes, but the borrowed honeyberry couldnt outheal the double water

[tidal sedge]

because if they werent, then it is a reed skill timing issue, if they lost all 100% of their hp, then you would need another medic prob

[naive oar]

should have placed her at the bottom

[turbid badge]

Borrow mulberry

[tropic valve]

wait really

my Mulberry outheals double water with skill

[naive oar]

took a ptil with me as a "helidrop" for that part

[turbid badge]

I use nulberry s2

[naive oar]

will try after this attempt

[tidal sedge]

wait are you using mulbery s1

[naive oar]

honeyberry with spritual care

[tidal sedge]

oh ok

[tropic valve]

wait jk, reviewing my footage I didn't even use Mulberry skill for double water, she just outheals: https://youtu.be/z38EaP-0LV8?t=202

[tidal sedge]

well, 1 person

[tropic valve]

or technically Cuora is losing hp very slowly, but it's fine because she survives the phase change

[naive oar]

oh

they killed thorns

[tidal sedge]

who?

[naive oar]

i dunno i was looking right for like 3 seconds

ah

big fuckers

2 of them if im seeing correctly

aaaaand im dead

alright, time to go mulberry hunting

and keep a texalt ready for this moment

[tropic valve]

Armed Spies?

[naive oar]

i think so?

the bigger spies

yes, armed spymasters

[turbid badge]

Just dps

they hit hard so

[tropic valve]

yeah Thorns and Blaze will struggle to kill them since they have 1800 DEF

[tidal sedge]

reedalt is there

[naive oar]

ye, need to watch for where they are and quickly texalt i guess

[turbid badge]

that why art

[tropic valve]

that's why I prefer to save the boxes on the left, and send the spymasters to the right side

[turbid badge]

saving boxes on left gaming

[naive oar]

and i need to support penance a bit too or she struggles

cant keep her shield up that easily cause monster kills

[turbid badge]

u can just face monster down

penance wants all the sp she can get anyways

[naive oar]

ye perhaps, just worried then penance cant kill them fast enough

but worth a try

[tidal sedge]

well if the issue was never with penance needing help, why face monstr over anyway

[naive oar]

uhh

damage

big number good

[turbid badge]

kek

well boss the other side

[storm current]

Hmm

If you use penance against high def spy

You prob can use her s2 since auto recovery

Cuz she doesnt get enough fodder to charge her s3

[turbid badge]

[tidal sedge]

makes sense

[turbid badge]

you can try

[crisp bolt]

I used gnosis + texalter to deal with those guys

[storm current]

Penance s2 sl7 is 900-1k dot
It should work

[naive oar]

hmm

penance died and monst3r leaked

(still s3 strat, was mid run)

[tidal sedge]

[naive oar]

but atleast the left is holding up this time

time for a cursed idea

saileach s2

ah shit

the trilby guy killed penance during phase transition

kaltsit got killed

in phase 2

not sure by what

well, good news is the boss is dead

bad news, im on 1 hp and my defenses are dust

[river atlas]

what stage is this

[naive oar]

12 20 adverse

ah i see now

kaltsit got boss yoinked while everything was chaos

damn

[turbid badge]

u using s2 or s3

[naive oar]

FUCK IT, ITS DONE, 1 HP LEFT, ONLY 2 STARS BUT WHO CARES

THIS IS THE MOST SCUFFED RUN EVER

the last enemy was literally in the blue box

[naive oar]

what OP?

WAIT IM NOT GETTING THE REWARDS FOR A 2 STAR CLEAR???

welp, thats it, im never gonna recover from this

[tidal sedge]

I bet you are on 2x speed

[turbid badge]

Kalst

[naive oar]

s3 of course

gotta have that true damage

anyway screw this map i aint going back

[naive oar]

nah this map is so hard i played on god damn 1x the entire time

it feels wrong

[tidal sedge]

pause more often then

[storm current]

Wait until you see H12

[naive oar]

surely H12 is easier

[Clueless]

i mean H12 1 seems to have less lanes so it cant be that hard

[storm current]

Surely

[turbid badge]

h12 is annoying

what are the stay buffs

20?

[river atlas]

?

[naive oar]

OH FUCK OFF THE BOSS IS HERE TOO????

I THOUGHT IM DONE WITH HIS BULLSHIT

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[river atlas]

wait til u do the other H stages

your suffering is only just beginning

[naive oar]

man i should go back to where i actually am in the story

im actually at the start of chapter 7

[turbid badge]

the one with the

actually

i wont spoil

[naive oar]

im just doing this cause of rewards

[turbid badge]

[river atlas]

do u have amiya e2

[naive oar]

ehhh

no

hehe

[river atlas]

then ur in no rush to complete story anyway cuz u can't finish it without e2ing her

[naive oar]

ye i know

but i feel like story and events come out faster than i can grind through it

so much text or incentives to do other things instead

[river atlas]

oh boy wait until next event

[naive oar]

OH GOD DAMNIT I FORGOT ABOUT THE PURPLY STAFF GUYS

NO

WHY

WHO WOULD CREATE THEM

im gonna have ptsd from the color purple soon

okay screw this

the rewards arent worth all this

im going back to chapter 7 where the sky was blue, the grass was green and all my units felt strong

[river atlas]

?

[waxen swan]

What does this mean

[glacial tundra]

Oh, gosh— I forgot to ping the person who told me to post these

One second

@storm current
Map layout for 2-10

[storm current]

your team prob look like this

3 is single target caster, face up

4 is single target medic, face up

5 is aoe caster, face right

6 is any heavy tank you can get

also order wise, you should put 6 before 5

because skullshatterer will aggro on the aoe caster first

and thats ideal

[glacial tundra]

Thank you!

[storm current]

oh ye i forgot

[storm current]

you will want to deploy a strong solo duelist here

cutter work

[glacial tundra]

Alrighty, thanks!

[sage glade]

hihi i would like some advice on how to clear 5-6 🥹

[storm current]

uh post map screenshot

i forgot what it look like

[sage glade]

okok one second

[storm current]

oh drone jammer map

just make sure you bring at least 2 marksman

[sage glade]

yea

okok

i have pozemka atm

[storm current]

somewhere like this

and for this you want specifically marksman

since they design to kill drones

green arrow medic

[sage glade]

okokok

[storm current]

red arrow blockers

[sage glade]

i see okok

tyvm!

[timid schooner]

MAN

ok ig ptilopsis heal might help me survive those spiral

[cyan gorge]

I would take Ptilo over e1 Honeyberry

[kindred galleon]

wtf i tried 2 separate clears n it's still like this

[gray stone]

Do you leak civilians?

[kindred galleon]

i don't think i did

if getting a blue symbol but not the run symbol counts as a leak then hg can eat my L

[gray stone]

If you leak a good civ, it won't deduct a point from your HP

but it won't complete the mission

[next frost]

Is this good enough for h12-4?

[storm current]

hmm

dont bother with berry then

they are not going to help

and you want modY saria here

modX doesnt help

do you have kaltsit

[next frost]

Nah imma borrow one

[storm current]

actually

[next frost]

Not yet

[storm current]

do you other regular medics

because ptilo alone cant keep up with the healing

[next frost]

Silence and other <5 units

[storm current]

so

you will want to kick elemental healer out

boss will instaproc corrosion

they wont help

unless eyjaberry

borrow kaltsit for top lane

or chalter prob work too

you have 2 choice

deploy on the turn section

or spawn camp

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/1170170955163766835/Screenshot_2023.11.04_08.21.26.657.png?ex=655811a0&is=65459ca0&hm=47a8f8f758a126bd5a46f0be165cb6c6246bef03c2bcb658d46a2e4c2f671463&=&width=1164&height=654

if deploy on turn section => need less dp since you have more time

if spawn camp => need more dp to speed it up

oh ye if you borrow kaltsit, you will need s2

cuz s2 has better healing and aoe attack, and better up time

[boreal magnet]

how to aproach this? open map scares me

[crisp bolt]

Most of what you'll be block is top left and right

[tidal sedge]

top left is mob and drone lane. mobs can die to one laneholder. right is eggs. bottom is crazy flowers

[crisp bolt]

Bottom left and right lanes will spawn those screaming flowers

[boreal magnet]

i see, does thorn good in this map?

i plan to just use him on top left if theres drones

[tidal sedge]

any laneholder on left should work. I guess thorns might be better so he can help with drones as well? doesnt really matter tbh. Map is just "deal with annoying eggs and flowers"

[boreal magnet]

eggs yuck

even yato raise her hand against that thinf

so any helidrop or ranged ops for dealing with bottom line right?

just top left and right that need lane holder

[tidal sedge]

dorothy s2 or FrD's are best for bottom 2 boxes I guess. right side should be pretty decent if you can kill a good portion of eggage with horn. Then I would just use a low dmg centurion guard + berry to slowly kill others

low dmg meaning offskill

[boreal magnet]

sorry im too late to read lmao, this is how.i gk

[weak gazelle]

your thorns placement was bit off
pull him 1 tile back
horn better at myrtle tile facing right

[boreal magnet]

i actually misssplaced him, but i eant to activate the bell thing

is that not necessary?

[weak gazelle]

trap master like robin/dorothy would solo angry flowers from both red box at bottom

not necessary tbh activating bell

[boreal magnet]

ah I don't have either

and i borrowed my thorn

[weak gazelle]

i see
guess throw body would do it
i see ya2 so seem fine

and eyja s2 more useful than s3 in this map

[boreal magnet]

the change of bgm bring me down to shiver lol

[boreal magnet]

ah i see, i use her s3 snd didnt really do much against the reaper

[fiery marsh]

Holly god, finnaly! Mylnar misteriously started to be able to tank the nuke from the boss, maybe is Trust?

[boreal magnet]

aight, 3 pulls from this and still Inesless

[fresh matrix]

god

does anyone have an easy clear guide for h12-4

i have been smashing my head against this stage for like 3 days

[latent monolith]

What is the best way to handle the middle roadblocks for 12-20 adverse? Just ignore them until the end?

[fresh matrix]

ive tried 3 different videos

[crisp bolt]

There's a couple of enemies that spawn to break them. I just wait till they all clump up and then texalter/yatoalter them

That stops them from breaking

[boreal magnet]

depends on your strat, if you holding the enemies near red gate then u probably need to break box on the middle and top

[formal hearth]

have you tried Oyuki?

[latent monolith]

I'm holding them on the blue box

[fringe jackal]

half the easy clear guides require you to wait for eyja alter or for kal's mod Y

and also need like 8 six stars

[fresh matrix]

first person i tried

[fringe jackal]

unless you are doing the super timing/potential heavy ones involving ling/mlynar/kal

https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=h12-4&from_source=webtop_search&spm_id_from=333.788&search_source=5

[boreal magnet]

on the right side? then just like broom said. let the civilians that goes through middle blocked by box and kill the sus one

[crisp bolt]

The only other thing to note is I stall boss left side

[latent monolith]

I didn't realise the boss clone was there

[fresh matrix]

fuck it im just gonna wait then

[latent monolith]

Stalling the boss on the left is probably better tho yea

[fresh matrix]

can someone link an easy clear guide involving eyja alter/kal mod y

[latent monolith]

Do I just use like mountain and honeyberry

does that stall the boss

[weak gazelle]

pick the 2 block count to block the boss
and let everything else pass

[crisp bolt]

Yeah it does

The boss phase 1 can be stalled pretty easily

[weak gazelle]

destroy 2 blocks on top when the first clones reach your blocker
easier that way i guess

and protect blue box road blocks

[boreal magnet]

chongyue and healer medic is enough for right side

[latent monolith]

I don't think that's sufficient block

Unless you kinda place around multiple defenders

[boreal magnet]

on the middle left place lane holder and elemental healer

[latent monolith]

which I can see ig

[boreal magnet]

actually i used that strat to win h12-1 before with only chongyus and nearl

the thing is

dont destroy bottom left box

and just destroy one of the top left

and bottom from middle

2.lane holder+ healer on middle

like this

[latent monolith]

Did eyja need to face right

[boreal magnet]

actually

[limpid siren]

She’s facing down

[latent monolith]

Oh I'm blind

[boreal magnet]

this,i deploy eyja after 2 nd clone dead to help kill 4 man with hat

[latent monolith]

Although wouldn't pozy take damage when boss reaches second phase in that setup

[boreal magnet]

this is the one that updated, that's why i placed healer there facing. right

left*

helidrop eyja after the whirlpool

[verbal sparrow]

operation astrape

they sure pick the best names

[latent monolith]

The new cc name announced?

[crisp bolt]

I definitely didn't read that differently

Because that was how my H12 experience was

[verbal sparrow]

I didn't realize how annoying the boss mechanics were until the H stages

[latent monolith]

My nearl is too underlevelled for this

[verbal sparrow]

lucky that we can stall the boss somewhat

[crisp bolt]

Saria s2 permastall

[verbal sparrow]

not s1?

[boreal magnet]

blemshine cant heal other?

[crisp bolt]

For specifically H12-2 and H12-4 I needed s2 to keep mlynar alive

Or he'd be bursted by the phase 2 boss because taunt

[verbal sparrow]

for h12-2 I used warfarin instead to heal mlynar. her s1 is lovely and the trash feeds her SP

[crisp bolt]

I didn't have the space for her to reach

For H12-1 I literally just had sarian s1 stall the boss

And s1 for H12-3 to tank beyblades

[verbal sparrow]

yeah that's what I did for h12-1 too. Mountain + Saria + honeyberry stall bottom lane

[boreal magnet]

does that dick shaped summoning beyblade thing on h12-3?

[crisp bolt]

I meant H12-2

I might have the order wrong

H12-2 is the one without boss right?

[boreal magnet]

i mean i dont know, i just curious

that thinf bring me ptsd

[crisp bolt]

The drone is in the bossless stage and H12-4

[main halo]

It's weird that everytime pullers try to pull an object that's immovable, they become unactionable for 2-3 seconds

[verbal sparrow]

they are pondering their life choices

[boreal magnet]

[crisp bolt]

That's where you don't run s1

[latent monolith]

eh I'm out of irl sanity and phone battery I'll do it later

[boreal magnet]

good luck, it takes me 3 days for that stages alone

[latent monolith]

Maybe I shouldn't have left it for the last day

[crisp bolt]

The H stages drained most of my sanity

[latent monolith]

Yeah the H stages this time seem so much harder

Last time I did all the H stages with minimum brainpower except H11-4

[crisp bolt]

Can't wait for ch13's H stages

The boss stage looks painful as well

[boreal magnet]

does cn alteady got ch13?

[crisp bolt]

Yes

[boreal magnet]

thanks, imm check it out

[crisp bolt]

EN is going to have a really fun time not reading what the boss does

And questioning why he is infinitely reviving

[boreal magnet]

what kind of abdomination theyre throwing us this time

[boreal magnet]

lmao, exactly what i did with Nearl Light event boss

[latent monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/942391421258854421/1167169744667955272/image.png

(this is at 75/75 enemies dead btw)

(according to the game)

[crisp bolt]

Those 75 blood worms

[verbal sparrow]

I like it ngl.
people always complain the game is too easy

[boreal magnet]

dude are we still fighting zombies?

[latent monolith]

It's not zombies, as one person put it it was a shitpile

[crisp bolt]

Yato s3 is really useful in this

[latent monolith]

You can't even see the boss HP bar

[crisp bolt]

Oh wait the boss is in there

[crisp bolt]

I didn't even notice him

[verbal sparrow]

most readable UI

[boreal magnet]

they need to replace boss healt bar somewhat on top or bottom of the screen

[latent monolith]

I mean idt any amount of good UI design can handle like 40 slugs all taking damage sitting on the same tile

[verbal sparrow]

bring boss bar to top

[latent monolith]

Well yeah that works ig

[boreal magnet]

definitely

[latent monolith]

but the slugs are still

[crisp bolt]

At least it means my Lin will finally dominate

Same with is4 I heard

[latent monolith]

exec alter

typhon L

ST moment

[crisp bolt]

I love them adding things for true aoe ops to shine

Same with RA

Splash casters might actually have use for once

[latent monolith]

Did CN get more details on RA return

[verbal sparrow]

yes it's called endfield

[crisp bolt]

Outside of what was given in the livestream? Don't believe so

But livestream did give a lot of information

File save, can go past beating the boss wave

They showed at least I think day 26 in their image

The base looks completely different

[storm current]

Yes

Specifically

Its a perma gamemode now

There was also a "role" system i think

Hold on

[crisp bolt]

Oh yeah there was

I couldn't understand what that was about

The menu has been reworked

[weak gazelle]

wait RA being perma game mode?
oh god, this worse than perma sss already

[crisp bolt]

You can build animal farm in your base now and what I can only guess is a water collection and wood collection building

[storm current]

Altho

This seem like food buff

[crisp bolt]

Yeah it does look like food

Though the food seems to last longer

[storm current]

27 days

[crisp bolt]

The thing above it I just realized reminds me of the 3 weather types in original RA

I forgot what the greenish one was but there's heat stroke and acid rain

The redeploy time increase one

[storm current]

Drought

[crisp bolt]

I know it's not because you can see acid rain in the nodes

[turbid badge]

umm

Ln

???

wtf skip

Sn

not again..

[vernal lion]

now I'm hyped af

[storm current]

I guess RA is part of general content now

What unit is worth raising for RA specifically

Ig dorothy

[crisp bolt]

Dorothy and basically any good true aoe

[turbid badge]

eh

they should have the tree back

so we can just get the 3x3

thing

[crisp bolt]

Which thing?

Brain empty

[crisp bolt]

Oh yeah the research thing

I still like dorothy for scouting maps

There were a few maps where I used her in regardless

Also with the sp charging station, you can abuse some skills probably

[tropic valve]

meanwhile Schwarz just casually soloing RA with single target damage

[storm current]

stop coping

single target is bad for RA

[crisp bolt]

All I want to do is be able to use Aak in RA

[storm current]

and art is better for RA

[crisp bolt]

Well actually I could just retreat redeploy aak but that's not good uptime

Especially with Lin module, it'd be a good combo

Lin is really good as well when you use her as a bait for catapults

[turbid badge]

this was so clutch

i just dawdling around cuz no vg chips

the delay on the talent

[crisp bolt]

You'd charge up skill basically instantly being hit by 15 catapults

[tropic valve]

literally soloing the mode doesn't sound like coping to me; granted maybe RA2 will be harder and not soloable but that will have to wait

[storm current]

?

most of the gathering is done by gathering hub

which you use fast redeploy to defense the hub

most of the hunting is done by fast redeploy

and you want aoe for raids

most of the boss are weaker to art than physical as well

schwarz is limited to single target

not sure what you mean here by "soloing"

[turbid badge]

the boss is literally surtr on the drugs + saria reed in OG ra

the dragon thing

melted so fast

[storm current]

the immortal is 1000 def 0 res

reed alt easily far out dps schwarz even at single target

thats before you include other art amplifier like saria

[limpid siren]

schwoz argument again

[turbid badge]

lul

never used schwarz in ra

[storm current]

scuffed range is not good

even pozy is bad for RA

[soft crystal]

Eh

Schwarz lane pretty ez to make

[storm current]

in base?

cant you just use ifrit in that case

aoe in general is better for RA for raids and gathering

[soft crystal]

Yes

[high warren]

Tips for this stage (4-9)

[foggy grove]

bait the bind

or out heal it

[remote ice]

Put like 3 healers in the middle

[cyan gorge]

Sniper facing up to spawnkill top casters

[tidal sedge]

Hm. Lin with module actually becomes slightly bulkier towards physical attacks while s3 is active.

[high warren]

Coped with Ling and support exusiai

[tropic valve]

the ruleset I use for RA solo challenges:

1. Only the designated operator can be brought to maps
2. No fighting in HQ, all raids must be defeated outside
3. Encounters can be done with other ops
4. Must not go net negative in crude gold (optional, I sometimes played without this restriction)
   Schwarz is as far as I know one of the few ops who can clear this challenge; you lose some efficiency in terms of gathering because Schwarz can't protect all your gatherers like Texalter, but you can still collect enough wood and stone to convert every single raid map into a Schwarz lane using firm platforms, and use fortifications to block

[stable jacinth]

I FORGOT CH12 BOSS HAVE SHIFT IMMUNE 💀💀💀

[storm current]

???

[tropic valve]

it's not 100% consistent, i.e. some double raids and pretty much all triple raids are impossible even with Schwarz and a ton of resources, but by scouting vision aggressively you can have a decent success rate; also some raids such as the Vein Guardian raid typically require 2 actions to finish; then again I doubt any operator can 100% consistently solo RA

[storm current]

Thats literally coping i see

[river atlas]

How do u forget this

Arent bosses usually shift immune more than theyre not

[storm current]

Pretty sure damatzi is just heavy af

Oh it is shift immuned

[river atlas]

Whats the diff between being superheavy and stall immune

[storm current]

Super heavy still can get shifted if you use weightless + a ton of force

Like patriot is heavy but not unshiftable

While damatzi is only weight 3, but cant be push or pull whatsoever

[turbid badge]

is damazti levitateable