strategy

[tropic valve]

make sure you don't put ranged units adjacent

or else the summoning will kill them

I used Mulberry and Suzu to heal only

[honest onyx]

problem with the floating pillars?

[tropic valve]

they die if adjacent

[honest onyx]

oh right that was h12-2 sry

[fierce hawk]

yeah

I dont have any units adjacent to each other

[real marten]

Huh

Whatever works right

Yes I had every single one of my ops right next to eachother

Brute force baby

[rough current]

lol

is the boss pullable?

[celest solstice]

what now

[real marten]

Most bosses after chapter 7 arent

But you can try

[rough current]

hmmm gladiia was no use

[real marten]

Yeah probably not then

[rough current]

shame

[real marten]

Weedy + ange can't push most bosses after chapter 7 lol

[celest solstice]

my team just got obliterated

[real marten]

Normal

I used mudrock and Reed to deal with the left side until mudrock died, then a few quick redeploy dealt with the left cluster

I never had issues with the right side

Chong 2 defenders andskalter was enough

[grand ginkgo]

chen might explode

[celest solstice]

she did

how did you know

[grand ginkgo]

avoid + shaped positioning

[deft badger]

told u to take skalter xD

and not chalter

u have dmg more then enough reed silver drop eyja in to it as well all do aoe u will delete the boss in the last phase but u have to hold till then

[cyan gorge]

Is there even an H12-3 strat that doesn't use Skalter, NG, and Mlynar?
I can't borrow all 3

[deft badger]

kinder have the feeling that skalter is the best option

[celest solstice]

skalter not chalter

ohhhh

I thought chalter

[deft badger]

no bro lol

[celest solstice]

whos skalter?

[deft badger]

skadi alter

support

[celest solstice]

ohhhh

my bad

[fierce hawk]

bruh

any suggestion????

h12-3

fuck

[deft badger]

that thing 😄

[celest solstice]

question, how do you use skalter

[deft badger]

u just place her she does the rest on her own

[celest solstice]

really

[celest solstice]

woahhh

[versed arrow]

the most you do is put her minion on out of range ops

[celest solstice]

units? So that includes summons?

[deft badger]

she heals everything

not summons

but all ops

[celest solstice]

ohhh

[cyan gorge]

including summons

[deft badger]

she does heal summons?

ok nvm she does 😄

skalter heals everything

[rough current]

yeah skalter heals my ling dragons just fine

[rough current]

just cleared it, barely. I'll see if I can video the auto deploy (might not work because of gg rng but we'll see)

[twilit flicker]

i gave up, anybody up for handholding? H12-3? i spent 6 hours trying (using guides too) and yes skill issue

i simply need the mats but ofc they had to bring out the boss with 300 ways to kill you

[fierce hawk]

dont have gg btw

[fierce hawk]

same

I dont think ill clear this

ejya alter would make this stage like a baby

literally

[celest solstice]

makes me want her asap

but global

global problems

[rough current]

mmm auto failed, partly because I made some mistakes. Will try again with ceobe instead of gg

[deft badger]

@celest solstice meant it like this just with the ops i told u...
with ur ops, gummy for kal, blaze for mountain, liskam for blaze, thorns for silver

when u are at 42 they stop spawning for a short time u can add reed there

[celest solstice]

ohhh

Ive been using silverash for quite awhile lmao

[celest solstice]

when and how do you place mudrock

[versed arrow]

mud face up is a better choice imo, she can hit the enemy above

[celest solstice]

also, which mudrock skill-

[versed arrow]

2

[celest solstice]

ok, I usually use 3

[deft badger]

https://tenor.com/view/gokyen-ez-this-is-how-infinite-rotation-work-wind-spinning-gif-17954186

spin to win mud

[twilit flicker]

get malaria, no need for handholding anymore

i could share the strat with you to help

but it's 3 limited ops

[celest solstice]

Ill just swap the positions of mountain and mon3tr, mountain keeps leaking

[polar crane]

this make my day

[real marten]

Why do we have to fight the cluster 4 times

[turbid badge]

musicknights gonna love arturia sfx

[real marten]

Who does musicknights even include?

Ops that's play music?

Or ops that can play music

[celest solstice]

music that plays ops

[turbid badge]

depends but my context is just operators that make music, sing as i think its more fun

she makes unique sfx on attack and s3 is amazing

[celest solstice]

no idea how you are able to deploy mudrock so early

[turbid badge]

thats one of the reasons why i raised czerny

(totally not for base)

[eager gate]

Musicknights sounds like someone just wanted to add a caster and a bard to AH

[twilit flicker]

i'd say ops that fight WITH music

ebenholz counts because technically he throws notes at you?

bards count

arturia counts ofc

czerny

[eager gate]

Just in case I'm not laughing or anything, I'm just adding the rest of the aegirs to AH for my fish team too
I genuinely like pretty much all aegirs tho, except Mizuki and Highmore

[twilit flicker]

agree on mizuki

wasted memory on my phone

i'd rather have a white png on his op page

[turbid badge]

lol

[deft badger]

u can use early someone else

till u can

try if saga is able to kill that little guys early

since she is e1 -.-

[real marten]

So specalt, bards, Erato, Eben maybe, pramanix, does hibiscus alter count? She uses a flute

[celest solstice]

ohhhhh

[twilit flicker]

she uses it to attack?

[real marten]

Yes her flute is her wand

[eager gate]

Hibis doesn't play. She mentions in plot that she only bought it to be a fancy lookin staff

[twilit flicker]

she's in

[real marten]

She doesn't play tho yes

[twilit flicker]

oh then... hm

[celest solstice]

Ill try again later in the afternoon, I should sleep now-

[twilit flicker]

that's an awkward situation but i'd say no because she doesn't use music

[eager gate]

Theres also uhhhh

Lemme open gaym

[polar crane]

gaym

[eager gate]

of course, my headcanon that every gacha is gay and protag's sex automatically assumed the same as waifu/husbando's

so it's gaym

Ling is a poet does that count

[polar crane]

[eager gate]

skin vigna

[real marten]

Skin blaze

[eager gate]

Cantabile can supposedly play harmonica or whatever her thing is

and it's her actual weapon

[real marten]

Kinda

She doesn't play it or anything

[eager gate]

well skalter doesn't actually sing too

[deft badger]

h12-3 doesn't seem to be hard if u have the right ops for it which i don't xD

[tidal sedge]

wtf do I hear when I place skalter then

[eager gate]

she has normal ass voicelines doesn't she

or in a skin they change

[tidal sedge]

ive never paid attention, but her skills are all singing on activation

[eager gate]

I swear there's an op who's humming in a line but I cant remember who is that

[polar crane]

spec alter?

[eager gate]

nah, not her

oh btw isn't Flint supposed to be a hummingbird? Does that count

Plat s2 activation plays a short melody does that count

Or you know what
Say "everyone with a written connection to music counts" and play them, you'll even have a vanguard

[polar crane]

zima because her skin carry a uhhh I forgot what it called

[turbid badge]

id include Phantom

he sings

[tidal sedge]

[turbid badge]

spalter

[fierce hawk]

If anybody got a big brain clear for h12-3 tell mees

[turbid badge]

anyways Musicknights fun cuz u have some loud ass sfx every second and it overpowers another Cough cough skalter cough cough

[tribal mango]

What key ops are you missing for the strats u found?

[deft badger]

bro that stupid blobs do to much dmg!

[glass monolith]

I tried to use brain. for 0.5 seconds then gave up and friend supported Spalter for full AH team

[glass monolith]

NO FUCK YOU WHY THIRD CLONE ON H11-1 IS TOP LANE?

[tropic valve]

yeah they deliberately put all the clones in different paths

[deft badger]

now i did try to keep mlynar ulty for the drones

[tropic valve]

your goal is to find the point where their paths converge best with your aoe range

[glass monolith]

AND THIS SHIT ATE GLADIIA

[deft badger]

and my warf died xD

but she survived last time lol

nah i have to e2 my mlynar and borrow nightingale or skalter for this

this is way to stupid to deal with

[glass monolith]

Leaked boss on 1% hp

Love this game

[polar crane]

i love ak too

[fiery marsh]

Ok, Just to know: when the Boss will call this extra clone?

[polar crane]

75% and 50% hp phase1

phase 2 kill 1 op at 50% hp

[glass monolith]

If only boss had 150,001 hp instead 150,000 so i didn't fuck up phase 2 kill moment

[crisp bolt]

[cyan gorge]

I'm still waiting on a clear that doesn't use Mlynar + NG so I can copy

[rough anvil]

This stage is actually so tilting

No not the stage

This boss is actually so tilting

[tidal sedge]

just use https://en.arkrec.com at that point

[cyan gorge]

There isn't a single H12-3 clear that I can copy

all use at least 2 ops I can't replicate

[deft badger]

same.. but i am about to skip on mlynar

cant kill that without a healer that prevents 10000000xxxxx dmg to be taken by some stupid balls

[cyan gorge]

I really don't want to have to spend Silence alt mats and build Mlynar just to clear this one stage

[crisp bolt]

you don't want to build mlynar?

[cyan gorge]

No

[tribal mango]

Do u have AHs built

[cyan gorge]

0 of them

no Spalter anyway

[vocal leaf]

i didnt use them

[cyan gorge]

Show ops

I'm desperate

[deft badger]

does someone have a m3 NG?

added 2 people with NG seems like they switched

-.-

[boreal magnet]

last wave got me f up

[polar crane]

who do you have

nvm for last wave just use 2 fast redeploy to bait cannonball

[boreal magnet]

the bazooka guy keep getting ammo

[polar crane]

keep it blue or make it red before final wave

I used beewax to bait

[glass monolith]

If you have a single red tower on bazooka guys you can just quit

[boreal magnet]

should i borrow lin

[jade cove]

why dont u use cheap defender to bait?

[vocal leaf]

i posted the pic earlier

[glass monolith]

Only Texas Alter S3 can unf-up red tower bazookas

[boreal magnet]

the game basically trying to tell me this

[vocal leaf]

i dont have mlynar and ng thats why i didn’t use them

[glass monolith]

Or Horn placed 20 miles away

[cyan gorge]

Chongyue and Mountain

[boreal magnet]

ah i think i can borrow Texas instead of Mlynar

[boreal magnet]

where did u get that perfurmer skin?

[cyan gorge]

What Reed skill?

[cosmic thicket]

r ur undeployed ops yato alter/courier/honeyberry (or mulberry)/cuora

[jade cove]

mountain good bait good 3 block and cheap

[cyan gorge]

I don't own Mountain

[vocal leaf]

use anybody else, yatoalt killed the archers, mountain didn’t do much and
chongyue is a luxury, im literally using him because i recently built him

[vocal leaf]

s3 to destroy the rock thing

[vocal leaf]

yes, honeyberry e1 because im poor

[cosmic thicket]

i see

[polar crane]

I need to find a reason to use beewax

[deft badger]

QB boosted by skalter does more then mlynar solo xD

[rough current]

I wouldn't call this a big brain clear, but maybe it can help get some ideas going: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWWxXUws4G0&feature=youtu.be

It's messy. Also, I forgot to start recording until after starting the stage, so I added the box as the opening thumbnail...

my basic idea was to line up the bosses so mlynar and gavialter could chop them down... and meanwhiles dump lots of healing on everyone

[quick pecan]

@lilac silo do you realistically use meteorite s2

or should i just s1m3 + mod3

[deft badger]

nah without NG res boost this is just a s-show xD

and if i take NG i don't have the dmg to burst them away

this stage is really going to make me prio my mlynar right now and get him to E2

[tropic valve]

yeah my clear for H12-3 wasn't big brain, just Schwarz + Mlynar + Suzuran stat check the enemies, don't think it's very instructive

oh and Yato S3 for right side because I'm very original

[deft badger]

well it would be easy if my mlynar would be e2 and i can borrow NG, since i can survive the first wave of blobs with NG ulty, 2nd mlynar will clap them and boss is down

[cosmic thicket]

i have an s2m3 9cd would putting her on the very middle tile be useful

20% shelter should be good right

[deft badger]

did try with QB she isn't hitting them fast enough so yeah f- that i am doing with when i have mlynar e2

[glass monolith]

Early AK chapters - 10 deployment slots. 12-20 - 8 deployment slots, H12 - 9 deployment slots.

[cosmic thicket]

also do i unironically run saria gummy cardigan as tanks

or is cuora > cardigan

[quick pecan]

nearl e2 where smh

[cosmic thicket]

mfw no polyester pack

[quick pecan]

[smoky swan]

I love NG

[cyan gorge]

Victory

Thanks @vocal leaf for letting me copy your set up

[polar crane]

now h12 4

[cyan gorge]

No

[polar crane]

do it now or step on lego

[vernal lion]

without Mlynar, this shit is brutal as hell

[deft badger]

who is that btw

[cyan gorge]

Quercus

her s1 has been clutch here and h12-1

[tropic valve]

Tequila enjoyers

[glass monolith]

1 done, 3 to go

[turbid badge]

wtf so mich ah abuse

[glass monolith]

Sorry boss fucking kills anything which don't have Surtr hospital and damage reduction, so I go easy way and damage reduction abuse

[deft badger]

lf NG again m3 pls 😄

[fierce hawk]

And after 5 hours I still haven’t cleared h12-3

[vernal lion]

I spent like 10 hours for h12-4 lol

[deft badger]

give me m3 NG and i will clear it hahaha

[deft badger]

do u have a NG? 😄

wanted to ask u like 4 days ago

[vernal lion]

I do, mod too

[deft badger]

would u add me pls

[vernal lion]

kinda defective lol

[glass monolith]

Well at least H12-2 don't have boss. Should be easy

[deft badger]

still better then the one i have been using

let me try

[turbid badge]

no pots defective

[vernal lion]

true

@deft badger
VanGuard#8304

[glass monolith]

WHO LET THE DRONES OUT

[fierce hawk]

Can mountain tank h12-3?

On right wing

[vernal lion]

h12-3 boss has 4 bodies like h12-4

[cyan gorge]

You don't really need a blocker for right
Texalter solos the lane

[fierce hawk]

Yeah and I don’t have that

[cyan gorge]

I guess Mountain can work, but killing the snipers the faster the better

[vernal lion]

Gladdia can take care the lane with enemy sniper

[turbid badge]

i love glaadia

guard with self regen and dr

And cheap

and hit air

[dark violet]

and she can stop the boss for 10 seconds

perfect synergy with specter s2

[fierce hawk]

Anybody got saria? With skill 2

[vocal cave]

does anyone have mountain s2m3

[boreal magnet]

me

this guy that can make civilians unblockable is so anoying

[dark violet]

spawnkill

gravel is another alternative

[cyan gorge]

They can't make civis unblockable if they're blocked themselves

[vocal cave]

id 🙏

[deft badger]

found a video where NG heals that solo but lvl90 ng

i don't get it i have lumen + ng and they still die

xD

[boreal magnet]

Shady#7639

still lv 60 tho

[glass monolith]

Well, EASY HALF OF H12 IS DONE

[cyan gorge]

Now suffer on h12-3 like I have

[dark violet]

have fun

[glass monolith]

You can spawn kill them with snipers, there is enough time between them to undeploy (fuck boss global ranged attack) and redeploy

[dark violet]

h12-4 didn't make you suffer?

[cyan gorge]

I haven't attempted yet

[dark violet]

[glass monolith]

How do I cook ifrit on that board

[dark violet]

you'll miss h12-3

[cyan gorge]

I mean there's a way to hold all boss clones in a line, but I wouldn't recommend it

[vocal cave]

ts all good 👍 friended

[glass monolith]

Do i look like sane being?

[cyan gorge]

[turbid badge]

wtf ur ines js a little feathery

[dark violet]

ines support saved me for 3 and 4

she was a worthy sacrifice to the elder gods

[cyan gorge]

I found Courier to be unironically better than Ines on h12-3

[dark violet]

probably depends on your ops

[cyan gorge]

More civis blocked = higher dp cap = I can afford to redeploy blockers twice

[glass monolith]

Why H12-3 has NORMAL version of 3 block dude instead red one

[dark violet]

it's vacations day

[cyan gorge]

This whole chapter made me appreciate pioneers and agents a lot more

[fiery marsh]

Makes you fell that is hope

[tidal sedge]

ch12 made me appreciate Ling more

[verbal sparrow]

viviana has no RES ignore?

[vernal lion]

no

[verbal sparrow]

sadface

[vernal lion]

she's mid

[glass monolith]

I don't like the part than there is still 1 "unknown" enemy after i seen like 66% of stage

WHY HE FARTED HIS CLONE IN MIDDLE OF STAGE

[visual cove]

Which berry medic is better?

Do I need to e2 a berry medic to do H12-1?

[tidal sedge]

honey is better

also "need" is synonymous with skill issue, so no

[dark violet]

ling survives the boss?

[visual cove]

How do i prevent my tanks from dying after boss goes to 2nd stage

[tidal sedge]

if you mean 12-20, then I did use ling there

[dark violet]

ah

[cyan gorge]

You can forgo berries if you just bring more raw healing

[dark violet]

she's what allowed me to finish the h12-4 ordeal

[glass monolith]

Okay damage reduction is bullshit, Ifrit won't save me
REED MEDIC, SAVE ME

[fierce hawk]

If only I have saria and ng

[visual cove]

my pt dies

[fierce hawk]

Ch12 would be basic

[dark violet]

it kinda reminds me the WD-ex-8 with the final wave of tanky mean enemies

why they gotta do this to us

[fierce hawk]

I aint enjoying this lol

[cyan gorge]

Don't put ops next to each other, set up everything on diagonals

boss global aoe is a cross shape

[dark violet]

spread them out like that

[glass monolith]

HOW THE F THIS PIECE OF SHIT DRONE OF BOSS WORKS?

[unkempt lintel]

AAAAHHHHH... 12-3 SO HAARD WAAAAH

[glass monolith]

I would understand if they stay on same place, but Nooooooooooooo we need it to fucking wigly woodly around

[unkempt lintel]

anyway its always the 2nd phase i failed, and mostly when the boss is in 50% health....

[glass monolith]

I currently on phase 2 and die to fucking global drone bullshit of boss

[deft badger]

uploading video u have to see this s-...

xD

[tropic valve]

I think they slowly make their way toward a fixed point?

[glass monolith]

WHY THIS FIXED POINT IS MY PTILO

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiq-DzsYoxI

just go to the end i am about to enrage

[unkempt lintel]

also, i see now how the 2nd phase 50% hp thing works... mountain got swallowed by a clone.... the furry got disintegrated ahhaha

[tropic valve]

Texas bad confirmed

[dark violet]

to be fair, it's very consistent

[glass monolith]

Well this consistency and this boss then

[dark violet]

when phase two reaches 50% it'll eat an operator permanently. Targetting the latest, most isolated op

[cyan gorge]

I got here and nearly lost but Blemi s2 saved me

[dark violet]

I used ines cause easy redeploy into a far place

[glass monolith]

DUDE I TALK ABOUT AOE SHIT WHICH SPAWN DRONE ABOVE EACH OPERATOR

[dark violet]

oh that, perfumer ftw

[tropic valve]

the main thing is don't let the aoe hit ranged ops twice, a lot of ranged ops will die

[dark violet]

yes

[tropic valve]

usually if they don't die from the that, the zapping from the hands won't kill them either

[dark violet]

and in general, limit the amount of ranged ops you use

they'll die so fast, it's better to have strong ground ops

[glass monolith]

I avoid double hit on ranged, but then they start moving chaotically and end up hitting my Ptilo to death who normally survives on like 100 because F this boss

[unkempt lintel]

also it sucks that one berry cant heal enuf the elem dmg... need to bring 2, well even if have both berries the elem dmg still pops out

[deft badger]

it maybe would have worked if i didn't waste sanity to place that summon from skalter down for whatever reason i did

[unkempt lintel]

only have lin on ranged tiles.... well also the healers... thus when 50% 2nd phase comes, one of the berries will be dead

and then its like dominoes, all of my ops deployed will be ded one by one

[dark violet]

oh yeah, use the transition to phase 2 to remove most non essential ops

and in general, try to use redeploy ops, so you can limit the amount of targets

I went with skadi, ntr, gravel, ines, and flametail

[tropic valve]

in H12-3 at least the boss shouldn't have the chance to summon the drones more than 2x

[glass monolith]

Good ending for OF stage unlocked

[dark violet]

it's always a good ending with perfumer involved

[dark violet]

the dread of h12-4

I would wait for the move to target, then I drop SA and other ops

[tropic valve]

I look forward to trying H12-4, from the description it sounds really fun

[glass monolith]

I will just throw Reed S2 in there and see who live

Spoiler, not me

[dark violet]

kek

[unkempt lintel]

im not excited in 12-4 when im still malding at 12-3

[dark violet]

h12-4 is like, let's throw every stuff at you, but also you have to survive the playwright

[unkempt lintel]

[tropic valve]

oh I love fighting Playwright

[glass monolith]

H12-3 once again show me than Shoperatoring Ceobe for POO was right play

[dark violet]

don't worry, you can block this one. the bad news is, you can block it

[glass monolith]

Btw, AK did it fucking again, AGAIN DRONES FLY OUT OF RED BOX

WHY THEY EVEN HAS MODEL FOR DRONE BOX IN GAME FILES?

[river atlas]

To tell u only drones can spawn there

[glass monolith]

Drones which spawn from normal red box:
Drones who just appear out of wall in that one map:

[river atlas]

Drones who teleport into the middle of the stage:

[tidal sedge]

moments before disaster

[little ravine]

do you guys use nightengale s2 or s3 for h12-3 ?

[cyan gorge]

I'd use s2

[glass monolith]

Use against what, boss is physical

outside of like doll phase and maybe global bullshit whic hsummon drones

fuck it last H12-3 for today and then i sleep

[fierce hawk]

AHHAAHHAHAHAH im also stuck in that stage

[fierce hawk]

S3 when boss do the watery circle thing

Use s3

[fringe jackal]

but the drone phase is the shittiest phase

[fierce hawk]

Your ops wont take any damage

[dark violet]

Trust in perfumer. She is precious

[fierce hawk]

Reserve other medics for drone phase

[dark violet]

H12-4 would like to know your location

[fierce hawk]

Havent done that

[glass monolith]

Current state of my sanity: Laughing at Blacknight S2

[frigid kite]

Looks hard

Maybe imposible

[glass monolith]

I think i managed to scan EACH civilian in H12-3

ah fuck my placement doesn't work need to replace everything

[tropic valve]

if you scan all you end up with 50 cap

[glass monolith]

Yesi i got 50

[tropic valve]

I usually had 46 or 48

[glass monolith]

Okay, first 2 in position

[lilac silo]

Sometimes to just really stack defense debuffs
But yeah 95% she's pumping out s1

[fiery marsh]

H12-3 is just cursed dear god

The closer that i got was with the Boss remaing at 10% hp and everyone dying
Pto skill ends before the Boss dies

[glass monolith]

I FORGOT ABOUT LAST 3 BLOCK DUDE NOOOOOOOOOo

[river atlas]

I still haven't gotten past h12-1

[glass monolith]

Okay, now i know i don't have to retreat Ceobe early as idiot, so tomorrow i will first try it, right?

[deft badger]

hahaha 😄

bro has bought of them with him

[glass monolith]

If boss has 4 of him, i allowed to have 2 of them, right?

[deft badger]

hahaha

true

[quick pecan]

hmm i might revisit it later to minmax i guess. need one more rockrock mastery on s2 and wanted to level kazemaru.

[deft badger]

i don't know what bothers me more atm, the boss spawning some bubbles or him trying to kill one of my ops with his dot procs

don't know who to use actually to bait that thing whene there are 4 of them

[glass monolith]

Ranged burst can be baited with random pet, like beanstalk, blacknight, gravel

AoE bullshit.... Uh.... Goodluck

My average round of AoE bullshit is me looking on each medic beign 1hp

[deft badger]

nvm thats it

pushed him much faster in to phase this time so surtr was up to eat dots, let a fat guy on gummy so that QB can stack up atk speed when drones spawn she killed them all with eyja xD

[tidal sedge]

I was doing good but i couldnt drop that last pillar

[deft badger]

borrow mlynar

let him sit infront the first pillar and eat balls + kill boss at the end

[novel pivot]

Im surprised blemishine was good for once in h12-3

geega 1k heal

[deft badger]

meanwhile me rolling with gummy xD

[fierce hawk]

whats your strat?

let me see

[crisp bolt]

I'm still struggling to deal with phase 2 of H12-1

[cosmic thicket]

wait yeah im actually curious to see ur strat bc doesn't blemi s3 heal only in adjacent tiles

and adjacent tiles plays right into the aoe bully guys

[novel pivot]

on the left blue box

[cyan gorge]

I used Blemi s2

[cosmic thicket]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/hard_12-03 wait map it pls

[novel pivot]

Place blemi first then deploy hoshi when damatzi crosses the tile to splitbox

[cosmic thicket]

easier to explain that way

[novel pivot]

damatzi is between hoshi and blemi but not far enough that the revive dot hurts my medics

Saria also backing next to blemi

[fierce hawk]

we need a vid for that lol

would be easier to understand

[novel pivot]

I only have a recording of h12-4

No 3

[cosmic thicket]

oh

[fierce hawk]

h12-4 looks easier than 3

tbh

[crisp bolt]

ffs

I just can't handle the last wave

[novel pivot]

Other way around for me

Did h12-3 in under an hour

[fierce hawk]

rip im stuck

fk

[cosmic thicket]

this was the setup that worked for me, mulberry s2 is probably better than honeyberry s1 here

[novel pivot]

Im like 9 hours late but have my whelpower clear

https://youtu.be/QK4kdvGqOBY?si=Zj9tul_V0-pnN3il

[novel pivot]

I gave up on using elem healing

my defenders sitting at 0 def

[cosmic thicket]

yeah lmao

[deft badger]

nearly gave up on my life...

[cosmic thicket]

near the end cuora thorns and saria died but surtr and mlynar burst came in clutch

[deft badger]

at h12-3 but its fine lol, 6 hours and i did it

[novel pivot]

The recorded h12-4 is like

33% messier

Cuz i was tired

[cosmic thicket]

wait no it was lumen thorns and cuora that died

[novel pivot]

I missed some micro moments

[deft badger]

at least i can see how h12-4 looks like 😄

[crisp bolt]

holy I just can't micro this

[cosmic thicket]

what stage

[crisp bolt]

literally the 1st one

I keep trying to time things but all it ends up doing is eating my texalter

[novel pivot]

so far the only consistently hard part is remembering to use kalstit s2

[deft badger]

did watch it and i am not even going to try... 😄

[novel pivot]

also funnily enough, ng wont die on the first burst

But if she doesnt have s3 up by the 2nd

She pops like a bubble

[olive widget]

Ah that stage are brutal, and yes , activate ng s3 right after the boss invis end

[novel pivot]

me activate a little later after boss resurrect

ng can live

[novel pivot]

i borrowed one cuz mine still m2

I dont like borrowing ops i dont have so im kind of glad i got mlynar

[deft badger]

i have to borrow skalter or NG so yeah can't roll with mlynar but drones are a pain to deal with just going to skip for now

[novel pivot]

[trail spear]

Which level?

[olive widget]

Lucky you, i tried 5 times with ifrit, and it's not end well.

[trail spear]

Or stage, same thing

[novel pivot]

Ng really does make this stage easier

Dat fat res

[dark violet]

so many people mentioning h12-3, meanwhile h12-4

[olive widget]

Yes,even without mod she thrive.

[deft badger]

ng? don't even know did try with Nagas but she didn't make it 😄
she is 60 something
so i did H12-3 with skalter

[novel pivot]

I used mod here cuz it lets me place her 1 tile back

So she doesnt get wiped by the adjacent atk

[trail spear]

I meant what stage im sorry I say level thats the universe term

[deft badger]

h12-4

[novel pivot]

h12-4 is cancer and im glad im done

[trail spear]

Oh yeah thats a tuffy

[turbid badge]

can someone explain boss mechanic

in simple twems

terms

[gray stone]

Do AoE damage or die

[dark violet]

tbh I'll maybe record it again, for the suffering

[olive widget]

What kind of problem with H12-4 ,man, i still have headache after finished H12-3

[deft badger]

looking at the map, looks nicer then h12-3 don't have to press them all together
still i don't wanna deal with the drones without mlynar xD

[dark violet]

4 is a fun one

h12-3's difficulty was mostly caused by pathing nightmare

[cosmic thicket]

CORROSION DEEZ NUTS

[dark violet]

h12-4 is just a nightmare

[dark violet]

omae wa mou shin deez nuts

[olive widget]

Wait, those drone ? You mean the disciple drone or whatever the name is, spawn there ?

[dark violet]

those are the easiest part of the mission

[verbal sparrow]

pozy's module works on enemy directly in front
So that means just one single tile? or all tiles in the line in front?

[olive widget]

Oh dang it, i didn't expect that one.

[cosmic thicket]

in straight line

[verbal sparrow]

ok that's more useful than expected

[sour steppe]

Hey guys, im having trouble doing H12-4 https://krooster.com/u/Ketsura

Im generally dying in Phase 2 of the boss, I think

Any tips?

[novel pivot]

Damatzi Cluster

Phase 1

Starts out as Civilian, must be identified otherwise it is Invulnerable
When revealed, deals corrosion dmg
Upon reaching 50% Hp, becomes invulnerable and spawn a clone on the map, which must be revealed to make the boss vulnerable again.
Clone and Boss share the same HP pool. Each clone alive reduces the dmg taken by the boss by 20%.
Boss can lock onto a target, and all clones plus itself deal damage to it.

Phase 2

On death, deal arts DOT to nearby enemies while reviving.
Marks all friendly units and deals arts + corrosion dmg to them. Used instantly on revive and once every 50s, lower in Hell stages.
Once dropping to 50% Hp, lock on to an ally operator and instakill them after a delay, preventing them from being redeployed. This also creates another Clone

[olive widget]

Oh man, that's just suck

[deft badger]

will do it in 2 weeks i don't care atm 😄

[novel pivot]

In h12-4, boss can summon 4 clones maximum, deals beeg corrosion dmg, and has reduced cooldown for the mark attack.

[dark violet]

a body pillow to cry

[turbid badge]

???

does ut attack kast deployed

The instas kill

or is it random

[novel pivot]

The instakill is the op with no ops near it

Adjacent

[turbid badge]

oh

neat

[novel pivot]

It only does it once

[dark violet]

it only happens once anyway

at half phase 2

[novel pivot]

i just bait with bagpipe

[dark violet]

I sacrifice ines, she served me well

gotta be in theme

[sour steppe]

[trail spear]

So are there any gimmicks to these guys or are they just that braindead

[novel pivot]

Dash after a couple of atk

Dats abt it

They're just shock troopers

[dark violet]

they are braindead crownslayer but you need ~~arts ~~damage

[trail spear]

I mean in terms of beating them

Because for a non boss enemy

Wowzers do they hurt

[dark violet]

crush them yeah

dorothy is very strong

[novel pivot]

You just gotta deal more dmg

[dark violet]

the mines will beat them to a pulp

[novel pivot]

i wonder if i couldve subbed saria for mountain

In h12-4

For giga regen power

[dark violet]

good luck

tbh I gave up on defenders and just abused regen

the issue is that you don't just need survival

you need to deal a ton of damage or you get overrun

and since defense is always 0

[novel pivot]

saria, nian, lumen and ng literally carrying

0 def gaming

[unkempt lintel]

what if... i bring roberta to gave them bit of defense

[tidal sedge]

They move slow and don't really have notable def or res. They just have huge hp pool

[weak gazelle]

hmm
this one need more precise timing treatment

[tidal sedge]

I cc them and burst

[unkempt lintel]

but yeah i faking hate h stages.... heck im still on 12-3

[novel pivot]

Yato alter shredding trilby

[dark violet]

I tried yalter for h4

I tried so many things

mizuki, nearl, pallas, chalter, surtr

[novel pivot]

How convenient since there's 2 tiles that u can put yat2 facint down

[dark violet]

in the end, it was honeyberry

[novel pivot]

me never bothered honey

damatzi clears gauge too fast

[dark violet]

yeah, but she has a good regen s1

so it upkeeps the healing during debuff trigger

and multitarget

[novel pivot]

[dark violet]

my only other good medic is warfarin, but single targets so she just dies

[novel pivot]

Loomen

i shouldve tried blemishine actually

[crisp bolt]

finally beat H12-1

[dark violet]

[crisp bolt]

I kept screwing up the last wave of units

[dark violet]

I don't remember h1 cause it was too fast

you're gonna have a fun time doing the rest

[crisp bolt]

it was fine for me but I kept 0 IQ deleting my texalter because I did too much damage without putting up my bait

[grizzled otter]

i wish 12h-4 didnt exist

you get to deal with damatzi and drone and 2 lanes

[deft badger]

need mumu event to do h12-4, e2 mlynar - e2 skadi, let mlynar and fish-girls deal with the stage
maybe i can even do it now but i am not mentally ready for it

[dark violet]

by the power of fesh

[sick vessel]

You're mother

Wrong chat

[crisp bolt]

h12-2 complete with the power of sail

sail's talent has been a life saver for me too many times this chapter

[fiery marsh]

I cannot even pass the 3

[crisp bolt]

yeah 3 is giving me a struggle

[cyan gorge]

I found 3 hard until I brought Quercus and then no one died

[crisp bolt]

my quercus isn't built yet

[turbid badge]

shelter gaming

[cyan gorge]

Abjurers good against boss

[turbid badge]

wish tsuki had it at above hp

my tsuki still e1 sadly

yes i cant afford to build her rn

[cyan gorge]

I'm gonna get Quercus s1m3 before I attempt H12-4

sl7 barely enough for 3

[turbid badge]

just borroq

borrow

orrr

OR wait for abjurer module

[cyan gorge]

It's fine, I have just enough mats and it won't cut into Silence alt funds

[fast basin]

Silence alt is free tho

Oh wait mats

Im dumb

[cyan gorge]

[latent monolith]

Oh wait I forgot lone trail is soon

I planned to M6 silence on release

[grave thistle]

Nov 7 right?

[latent monolith]

Idk no official date yet

But I should farm during this event

[grave thistle]

What's the best mats to farm in lonetrail?

[cyan gorge]

alloy

I think there's aketon too

[grave thistle]

Do we have the official mat list for the event shop??

[cyan gorge]

You can probably google it

[grave thistle]

No T5 salt 😩

[crisp bolt]

man my brain just doesn't understand

oh I can't read that's what the problem is

nevermind I don't understand why mlynar just gets deleted

[turbid badge]

think

[cyan gorge]

There's 2 in chap 12 h stages and another one in IS3 reward update

[fast basin]

U doing h12 4?

[crisp bolt]

3

[fast basin]

Where does the run turn to shit

[grave thistle]

Me still stuck in ch6 and can't play IS3 since ops are still weak:

[crisp bolt]

the 2nd set of drones

I'm trying to use ng skill there but mlynar just poofs

[fast basin]

Drones?

From boss?

[crisp bolt]

yeah

[fast basin]

Try doing the checkered pattern

[cyan gorge]

If you have another dps, you can make up the damage provided your tanks survive

[crisp bolt]

I lack another DPS which is the problem

at least not someone like surtr

[cyan gorge]

No Qiubai, Horn, Surtr, Silverash?

[crisp bolt]

nope

I'm severely lacking in ground tile DPS

all I have is thorns but he's too weak for this

[cyan gorge]

Yeah you want multi target

[river atlas]

Who else besides exusiai is great at deleting drone spawners?

[cyan gorge]

Yato s3, Pozy, any aa sniper + bait really

[wide tide]

The UFOs? Firewatch and April don’t need bait

[cyan gorge]

Chap 12 drones

[river atlas]

Tried april, she doesnt do enough dmg

[fast basin]

I killed it with krooster

[crisp bolt]

I got the clear finally

[noble pewter]

I see, maybe I need texas s3 n that can help hit air n kill boss drones too, but think NG n mlynar is core n I don't have her so I will just need wait future saw 4 star only clears n ling kalsit clears but too much thinking involved

[crisp bolt]

I forgot to place a birdcage

yeah the chapter 12 drones have low def

[noble pewter]

How much hp damatzi will deduct if leak him? Can leak him n considered clear h12-4?

[crisp bolt]

2 hp?

since I accidentally leaked him in H12-1

you won't get 3* clear though

I have no clue how I'm going to do h12-4

[novel pivot]

I havent tried killing both drone with mlynar

but

the puppet die too fast

Gonna try actually

[novel pivot]

ye can optimize

mlynar can kill both air drone

[noble pewter]

The easy way to do h12-4, just leak damatzi

[novel pivot]

[noble pewter]

At least I can get the reward Morgan token

[novel pivot]

Truly

A 120 lmd and 1 prime

i was shooting myself in the foot by putting mlynar in top lane

[noble pewter]

Yea u could have put mid kill all trilby or maybe put with frontline kill damatzi faster

U put birdcage to tank the boss's once in a while single target nuke skill is it?

[crisp bolt]

wait you still get the token if you leak?

[storm current]

yes

[noble pewter]

Yea they said clear, not 3 star clear

[crisp bolt]

I might just do that for the reward and go for the 3* later

[storm current]

you must 3* clear for medal tho

[noble pewter]

Is it a limited time medal?

[storm current]

should be perma

[crisp bolt]

none of the H stage medals are limited afaik

[noble pewter]

Hopefully get an NG in recruitment one day

[turbid badge]

why would they be

💀💀💀

its story ffs

main*

[crisp bolt]

[storm current]

who are you borrowing

[crisp bolt]

I've seen weirder things

[turbid badge]

LOLI ON

LOLICON

[storm current]

oh mlynar

[noble pewter]

Mlynar

[storm current]

i think it can work

personally

3 vg is so overkill

[turbid badge]

[storm current]

i ran 1 texas only

to bait the insta kill and early dp

because

the stage is kill gated

[turbid badge]

when lolicome back

[turbid badge]

myrtle the useless one smhsmh

[storm current]

you can place mlynar here to kill both the flying tower and mobs and boss

[novel pivot]

me put in top lane cuz bot lane no problem

[storm current]

theres 2 trillby

the weak 1 die to texas s3

the strong one can die with surtr prob

[novel pivot]

the trilby's arent my concern

they're trash mobs to the dps corner

its just that goddamn damatzi

[noble pewter]

Cause the starting rush at bot kinda strong, n I like dp printing but hmm maybe if clear myrtle take more defender then defender swapping

[storm current]

do you have like

AH

or tankier tank

[noble pewter]

But yea damatzi lifeline burst n drone is too pain

[turbid badge]

me when using perfumer

no ptilo?

[novel pivot]

I ran h12-4 again with better micro and this time blaze, horn, and ng lived

lumen also

so the messy clear was a skill issue

[storm current]

you can use cage to bait drone

[novel pivot]

did dat too

Can even do without

[turbid badge]

jesus christ thats so big

[storm current]

it will be easier with eyja berry ig

because uh

[novel pivot]

Wasted 1 cage actually

[turbid badge]

i just used mulberry s2

[storm current]

she increase all allies hp by 30% and reduce elemental dmg by 60%

cracked

[turbid badge]

how does virtuosa s3 work

the atk, hp, defense thing

[storm current]

which part

[novel pivot]

imma stick my my philosophy of more dmg = good

all medics yauck

[storm current]

highest hp in range +30% hp
highest atk in range +30% atk
highest def in range +30%
stat gain to the ops, not scale with arturia

if theres only 1 ally in range, they get all 3 buffs

[turbid badge]

ah ic

thought it was like that nice ig

[storm current]

or if theres an allies with highest atk def hp, like eunectes will also get all

[turbid badge]

I wonder how much hp skadi can reach now

with all this

[tidal sedge]

tbh I havent really paid much attention to the operator buffs. I just use it as a wall

also skadi would only gain like 1k hp

[turbid badge]

pull banner for the base slave

[river atlas]

Pull banner bcuz cute waifu

[novel pivot]

i still need goldenglow

How does gg fare in h12-4

[turbid badge]

dunno

what are daz’s stats actually

[novel pivot]

i want to kidnap the enemy designer of hg and feed them 3 healthy meals until their mind is healed of this insanity

[river atlas]

How do i handle daz’e drone atk

[crisp bolt]

can't wait for H13 and those constantly reviving blood worms

[river atlas]

Nvm forgot it was arts dmg, guess im using 3 medics to tank daz now

[tidal sedge]

texalt s2 or ifrit murders the worms
and burns their bodies

[novel pivot]

Surely damatzi will not appear in a future cc

[turbid badge]

isnt he in tfn 3

[crisp bolt]

[turbid badge]

well hes not ahe

[crisp bolt]

he is in tfn 3

[turbid badge]

its a everything

[novel pivot]

im going to ship myself to hg headquarters

[verbal sparrow]

the devs mistreating snake mommy and now candle mommy

[turbid badge]

atleast good in base

module trust

[river atlas]

What does vivi do in base again

[turbid badge]

Help Pinus, and gravel

lets iwona reach 47%

EXP

and 42% gold for gravel

shes a CC unit

[tidal sedge]

She's already reviewing bad?

[river atlas]

Ah

[river atlas]

People dont like their elite killers to be non-helidroppable I guess

Also no res shred/pierce

[crisp bolt]

pinus buff?

[vocal leaf]

the moment where i almost leak one one of the hat guys

[noble pewter]

I have ah but no specalter, even with gladiaa buff they still dying hmm, cna build ptilop but will she be better than perfumer? Reddit calculations say both almost similar, or maybe I use both of them n will survive? Have hoshi as well but the damatzi arts dmg is the problem I think

[turbid badge]

mhm

shes doing great in her base idk about gameplay

havent really looked into it

[storm current]

ptilo has significantly better heal

but your problem may be ops getting insta kill

[noble pewter]

Wtf? Passive aura or skill?

[turbid badge]

skill

[storm current]

eyja give 5% hp and 12% by default

[noble pewter]

Only with skill active right?

[storm current]

s3 multiply that by 5

by default and with skill

because ptilo has higher atk

altho perfumer heal 4 targets ig

[tidal sedge]

is there a trick to handle the Damazti's drones?

[storm current]

you can bait with NG cage

or kill with texas s3

drone have low def medium res

[real marten]

Nah just deploy yato s3 5 times

[river atlas]

Speaking of pinus buffs, i just remembered flametail works on vivi

[tidal sedge]

the drone kept one shotting my medics when they spawn and I don't know how to handle that

[river atlas]

Thats a lot of rng lmao

[turbid badge]

cause shes kazi? wow!

same with mwynar

and and

Provisio

[storm current]

viviana buff "knights" base skill

+7% per pinus

[turbid badge]

there porbably talking about the talent

[river atlas]

I forgot mylnar has a kazi passive

[turbid badge]

same i just remember cuz its yellow glow

never really use him its just hes so memorable

[river atlas]

I mean the only time it shouldve been noticeable atm is if u use blemishine or gravel

Ur usually not gonna have mylnar down before your vg and the rest of kazi is mostly ranged ops

I dont use ntr much

[stable jacinth]

I found it weird that I struggle at H12-3 more than I do H12-4

I 3rd attempt H12-4 but I like 10 Attempt H12-3

[river atlas]

Keh

It took me 2 days to do h12-1

[stable jacinth]

H12-1 is like 5 attempt for me

[river atlas]

Kept trying to do it with 1 ele medic

[stable jacinth]

It's really hard cuz none of the Hell stages I cannot 1st try

Even H12-2 took me 3rd attempt

I guess because of the guy who made the Civilian unblockable appears at the right timing when the Civilians near the Blue box

[crisp bolt]

currently H12-1 has taken me the most attempts

I haven't done H12-4 yet though

my brain was having a dumb moment trying to cycle mlynar + executors

[stable jacinth]

I remember in H12-1 those guys appears when I haven't done scanning the Civilians

Man that's awful

And there is like 3 of them so u cannot do any shit if you didn't act fast enough

[crisp bolt]

with my clear there's a perfect timing where the unblock guys spawn and boss hits phase 2 50% hp

would eat my texalter in the middle of killing the guy

made me realize I had 0 clue how the boss prioritized eating ops

[stable jacinth]

But still for me H12-3 is way harder cuz how much DP gap u get depends of the first wave

[crisp bolt]

I used the semi-afk strat for that one

gives me 40 dp at the end of the wave

[stable jacinth]

I remember 1st attempt is like I have 40 DP max and I cannot put down Surtr since she become 42

[crisp bolt]

I did it without surtr

just let the absurdist take a short walk around before deleting them

[stable jacinth]

I only use 1 Medic and it's Nightingale so surely it's of course harder

Actually 2 but it's Kal'tsit and she solo the right side with Mont3r

[crisp bolt]

I used mud right side and placed monst3r bottom left

[noble pewter]

But perfumer got the global passive heal, that offset the higher atk of plitop I think, so not much diff if calculated

[crisp bolt]

ng + ptilo but ptilo gets deleted in 2nd boss drone wave

[stable jacinth]

Sadly I'm kinda dumb enough to didn't bring Mudrock on my run

[crisp bolt]

you had to nuke pretty quickly though or she'll get deleted by the 4th boss clone

[stable jacinth]

And yeah I kinda Brute force my way in cuz I only play *6 and most of them like Meta Brute force

[cosmic thicket]

i managed to get 44 cap which was enough to redeploy everyone on my team as much as i liked

[crisp bolt]

I probably could've done 44 cap if I placed someone right side

[storm current]

about this much ig

s2 has better healing power

but its slow interval so most usually use s1

[lethal dragon]

Wtf no more gura

Good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147560710767902841.png?quality=lossless&size=64

[peak cloak]

Ptilopsis is mainly for Burst healing for some critical moments and she has a sp support talent. she is still one of the best aoe medic.

Perfumer, personaly, i found her useful when i have Juggernaut operators or ops those cant be healed by skills in my squad. however, Global hp regeneration is nice to have, which mean u can heal the ops those are not in ranges of Perfumer (maybe useful in IS2 too) that's why Perfumer herself has a spot in top aoe medic

if u compare to a thing called Heal per second. Ptilopsis easily win.

[river atlas]

Global regen is nice in general

Sometimes u wanna place ops on their own but they eventually will die to attrition

[tidal sedge]

the amount of times I noticed perfumer talent :298356732985623985
the amount of times I noticed ptilo talent: 2

[storm current]

at some point

every of your units have self heal

so perfumer doesnt matter much

[limpid siren]

just means you're obsessed with having everyone's hp topped off all the time

[river atlas]

I notice ptilo talent all the time cuz i only use auto skills (most of the time)

Ptilo skill one of the few options for me to shave time off my autoclear

[noble pewter]

I will max a 5 star nearl module n s1 n have a ptilop n perfumer healing same time n hope it can equal to a nightingale for h12-4

[limpid siren]

there's a gap between noticing it and it being necessary for beating the stage

[noble pewter]

Or tsukinogi has arts dodge n 1.6atk time heal so = nightingale

[limpid siren]

can borrow my nearl if you don't want to invest all that for one stage

[river atlas]

5* nearl is great

Key member of surtr hospital and just great in general

[noble pewter]

Healing effectiveness apply to elemental heal as well?

[limpid siren]

Unlikely

[river atlas]

Uh i have no idea sorry

[limpid siren]

They’re separate things afaik

[tidal sedge]

Igneus, how do you like the look of Vulcan module? If at all

[river atlas]

Pray the next module will be better

[limpid siren]

disappointed

the DR is nice, but she really needed SP generation

her skills already made her really hard to kill

the problem was getting to the second activation

[tidal sedge]

I feel similarly too, it's unfortunate.

[limpid siren]

ig you can kind of frame the chunk of healing as an attempt to make up for the skill being later than you want

but

i'd rather just have the skill pop faster so she doesn't need that contingency

[tidal sedge]

Mmhm.

[glass monolith]

Oh my fucking god why boss has more DEF than block 3 dudes

I need to execute cringe tier back block to have boss outside Ceobium range

[south bone]

God i hate those agitators

[tidal sedge]

I wonder if anyone has used Mostima or Harmonie to slow unidentified units

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3hiSXW-FOs&ab_channel=YesTerry

[glass monolith]

EASY HALF OF H STAGES IS DONE

[novel pivot]

"Easy half"

[glass monolith]

Does H12-4 boss in phase 2 instead "AoE, burst, AoE" goes "AoE, AoE, AoE"?

[dark violet]

what's burst again?

[glass monolith]

Because if I still need to avoid his ranged burst during drone stuff he can go multiply himself and F each clone

When all clones do ranged attack at once on same operator, he has it for whole fight

[dark violet]

ah yeah, he just be aoe

[glass monolith]

Good

[dark violet]

well, I think

I don't remember much aside that

[glass monolith]

It will reduce my pain if I don't need to bait burst among chaos

[vernal lion]

I don't hate the aoe burst, I just hate the global attack that is fucking 4 stacks of dmg

[dark violet]

mmh, sounds like you haven't reached h12-4 yet

[abstract zenith]

H12-4 is a pain in the ass, barely made it. Liskarm+nightingale helped a lot

[glass monolith]

One stack of revives every 15 seconds Crab

[vernal lion]

this is the real shit

[glass monolith]

Wait, it means Vigil is again in trashcan

Crab and Blacknight revives in 15, he is 25

[vernal lion]

dude is instant-killed

[dark violet]

Gravel also revives in 15

[novel pivot]

jayming