nah they circle
#strategy
ruby stump
deft badger
all good then xD
trail spear
This was my strat if this makes any sense
Thorns=yellow
Blaze=blue
Chalter=Green
Skalter=Black
Mudrock=Grey
Horn=Orange
Penance=Purple
Mountain=White
full finch
swap mudrock and mountain
trail spear
Shes lvl69 s3m3
crisp bolt
mudrock can just tank the drones infinitely
vital arrow
This was my strat if this makes any sense
Thorns=yellow
Blaze=blue
Chalter=Green...
What is chalter doing there
Staring at nothingness?
full finch
yeah chalter is worthless there
deft badger
xDDD
trail spear
What is chalter doing there
Yeah I didnt place mudrock for awhile
vital arrow
Yeah I didnt place mudrock for awhile
Swap mountain and mud, and put mountain at top right spawn
trail spear
mudrock can just tank the drones infinitely
Tbf so can mountain
full finch
7% HP/s
trail spear
Ok so just redo this strat but swap mountain and mudrock, get surtr down quicker and get an actual decent chalter placement
vital arrow
Is your surtr m3
deft badger
i think u will leak after rat
trail spear
Is your surtr m3
Yes I said that a few messages ago ๐
deft badger
if u dont move blaze one tile back
full finch
surtr should kill, but bring something to make sure
trail spear
if u dont move blaze one tile back
Should I always keep her one tile back? Or should I bring a unit to back her up
trail spear
Do you have texalt
Yup 90 s2m3 s3m3
deft badger
Should I always keep her one tile back? Or should I bring a unit to back her up
put her one tile black so that the runners don't get stuck in to her
at a point after rat there are so many adds inc and 3 runners
if she cant block u leak
vital arrow
Yup 90 s2m3 s3m3
Just drop texalt and surtr on rat king once he spawns
full finch
with surtr rat king isn't a problem
just make sure you have the damage to deal with all the enemy defenders and bulldozers
trail spear
Looks good?
full finch
defense drones give regen and a DEF bonus to all enemies in their range (doesn't stack fortunately)
vital arrow
Penance kinda bad here
trail spear
Penance kinda bad here
Who to swap her with
deft badger
do u have chong?
trail spear
I have chongyue but he only s7
vital arrow
Hoshi works
trail spear
Hoshi is also s7
vital arrow
Hoshi or saria
trail spear
Saria s7 ๐๐
deft badger
u don't need tanks
vital arrow
You only need their 3block
trail spear
No mod
deft badger
use that s7 chong or borrow a m3 put him in the middle he will murder all of them xD
vital arrow
They're literally just bodies
novel pivot
H12-2 is so cancer 
deft badger
but u have chalter time it right and she does the same
vital arrow
As long as they have 3block and can tank bulldozers they're fine
deft badger
if u wanna brain afk it put chong on the cross and go afk xD
trail spear
use that s7 chong or borrow a m3 put him in the middle he will murder all of the...
Middle lane or middle of the lane we are swapping penance out of
deft badger
at the crossing
trail spear
at the crossing
Where is that ๐ญ
deft badger
left blue box blaze right thorns
chong infront of blaze
healer to the right
mud to take drones
surtr texas for rat
deft badger
Where is that ๐ญ
where ur blaze was
trail spear
You gunna have to draw alat I am lost
vital arrow
Chong is gonna die without medics
trail spear
where ur blaze was
Oh
gentle finch
man
full finch
using chongyue skalterless is pretty sus
vital arrow
Skalterless chong is fine
trail spear
Ummmmmm this is VERY different then my gameplan ๐ฃ
vital arrow
Less damage but he works
deft badger
liskarm mud
trail spear
liskarm mud
Im suppose to put her not on the lane?
vital arrow
You can just put mud on the left lane
vital arrow
Since shes unhealable anyways
deft badger
Im suppose to put her not on the lane?
no she will block one of the runners and u leak after rat
trail spear
throns blaze chong same place healer next to them rest ignor
What about the lane ines is in
vital arrow
You know you don't have to follow every screenshot to the T right 
deft badger
ignor
u have to guard it to activate the devices
or they kill them u can do that with texas yato
trail spear
You know you don't have to follow every screenshot to the T right <:Bnuuy:926515...
You know I dont care ๐คฏ๐คฏ๐คฏ๐คฏ
๐คฏ๐คฏ
vital arrow
What
full finch
bruh
deft badger
u just care about that part
quick pecan
if you donโt care why are you asking for advice lol
deft badger
rest is up to u
trail spear
u just care about that part
So what youre saying is just let them come to thorns
vital arrow
This guy boldly going to strat asking for help then just casually spats
deft badger
liskarm takes drones for me u wanted mud there so do it with mud
vital arrow
trail spear
if you donโt care why are you asking for advice lol
Im speaking to someone else for help and this guy keeps budding in like a wise ass
gentle finch
๐ด
trail spear
Contradicting everyone elses statements
deft badger
ines guards that
vital arrow
You know different strats exists right
trail spear
ines guards that
Oh makes sense
I can just use texas alter
For guarding it
Or whatever
deft badger
u can use mountain till they are ready to use then just recall
trail spear
So ill swap horn with lumen to heal the main team
deft badger
texas the guy in the middle
that hits them with the hammer
๐
or kill them on the spawn
trail spear
u can use mountain till they are ready to use then just recall
Actually will the towers be able to survive alone?
While getting shot by the crossbow men
gray stone
I think you guys should take it to VC so that they can help more effectively
deft badger
no put mountain there till u can use them
after that u don't care if they kill them or not
trail spear
after that u don't care if they kill them or not
It doesnt take life points?
deft badger
it doesn't count in to ur 400/400
trail spear
I see
deft badger
so u don't care
solid dew
It doesnt take life points?
completion is based on kills, not lives left
so u good
trail spear
Nice
trail spear
completion is based on kills, not lives left
so u good
Yeah kinda forgot annihilation rules
Lol
I got the idea now thanks
deft badger
just don't forget to remove mountain so that thorns can get his stacks
full finch
as long as you get 400 kills it doesn't matter even if you lose all HP
gentle finch
I forgot about that
deft badger
Lin got her mod
is it good?
vital arrow
Its practically mandatory on her
deft badger
hmm nice fidget spinner
full finch
also increases her durability and shield limit
deft badger
want to e2 her but can't
fast basin
level 1 should be fine right?
gray stone
No
fast basin
or mandatory mod3
vital arrow
She wants lv3 really
full finch
yeah mod3
vital arrow
So she has less ass cycling
fast basin
can her mod3 tank the ufo critters from chapter 12
novel pivot
Are h12-3 and 4 even worse than h12-2 or is it the pinnacle of cancer stage
vital arrow
Not the red one
novel pivot
vital arrow
She can tank normal ones just fine
quick pecan
red ufo my behated
full finch
based E0 art enjoyer
fast basin
e0 art is peak lin
fast basin
there are 3 at a time on few waves
latent anvil
Are h12-3 and 4 even worse than h12-2 or is it the pinnacle of cancer stage
Definitely worse than 2 for me
H12-3 is a horror 
novel pivot
Definitely worse than 2 for me
truly
real marten
there are 3 at a time on few waves
Correction, all of them except the first
cyan gorge
I just barely cleared H12-1 the same way I did 12-20
Out heal the bullshit and Horn everything else 
trail spear
@deft badger Thanks
gentle finch
meanwhile i just passed 12-17
novel pivot
I see no victory ๐
i should build my mlynar for this stage
restive solstice
H12-2 is so cringe man they keep putting the mobs that need to be blocked on non-placeable tiles, but if you wanna kill it they put a turret that one shots all your operators unless you have enough healing/defenders there, except you are limited in DP by the civilians that need to walk around the whole map to get to your blue box
grizzled otter
H12-2 is so cringe man they keep putting the mobs that need to be blocked on non...
mlynar + a healer can deal with iy
bitter halo
chapter 12 made me realise how annoying limiting dp is holy shit
it feels suffocating
novel pivot
flagpipe users realizing they cant have 50 dp in the first 10 seconds of the game
bitter halo
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honest onyx
chapter 12 made me realise how annoying limiting dp is holy shit
i my best laneholders is juggernauts, i feel this
brazen stream
those H stages be tweakin
lethal dragon
Oh god 3rd is kicking my ass
river atlas
Is it not possible to outheal the corrosion dmg the boss deals in H12-1
ancient hearth
Oh god 3rd is kicking my ass
my god, I beat it, but my god
Roster. I had to rarity abuse my way through.
you need to kill phase 1's three bodies far enough away from each other so the whirlpools don't force a redeploy of anything vital
and then once phase 2 comes in and noms somebody you need to burst it down as fast as possible, before the 4th body can get far enough to need a blocker
ancient hearth
Is it not possible to outheal the corrosion dmg the boss deals in H12-1
needs 2 E2 berries
river atlas
Bruh my list of ops i want to raise is too long 
ancient hearth
and honeyberry on S1M3 probably
river atlas
Guess im waiting for eyjaberry instead
ancient hearth
This was my H12-1 setup. Monster at F6 pointing up. Schwarz on S2
cosmic thicket
i did smth like this
turbid lagoon
i see the h stages look fun
how would you argue these compare to all previous h stages, just to know what ima be getting into
honest onyx
define fun
river atlas
Every stage is a boss fight apparently
ancient hearth
not H12-2
river atlas
Oh
ancient hearth
that's just 2 red ufos
honest onyx
floating pillars
river atlas
Ow
cosmic thicket
H12-2 was funny i needed to use hung to open
weak gazelle
seeing peep here struggle seem like h maps is fun
cosmic thicket
H12-1 and H12-2 combined took me like less than 1 hour, i'll be trying H12-3 and H12-4 after i finish a midterm tomorrow
ancient hearth
I actually went invs snipers for H12-2
ancient hearth
firewatch and april cleared the upper left pillar, then I started setting up mlynar and pozy to clear the right side of the map
weak gazelle
that was easily marksman opener
ancient hearth
i shit u not this was my squad
firewatch S1 and trait tunnel visioning her on the stupid "can't block shit" guy even with all those flying pizzas
weak gazelle
guess i can fool around by bringing lunacub
ancient hearth
praise the deadeye traits
latent anvil
Qb burst
Fucking cringe
wtfart uncle in there
cosmic thicket
actually lunacub is probably much better
latent anvil
my uncle is sl1 rn
ancient hearth
lunacub doesn't have enough damage to kill the guy fast enough I feel
you might leak
weak gazelle
just be good
that flying pillar or whatever its called doesnt pose a threat at all
ancient hearth
firewatch S1 with module kills him in 3 or 4 shots
ebon musk
anyone have any ez guides for h12-4
https://krooster.com/u/sanspapyrus683
roster here
cosmic thicket
why are so many of ur ops unraised
weak gazelle
or archetto opener with skill that increase her range
cosmic thicket
good operators too
ebon musk
my resources are limited
crisp bolt
crisp bolt
Base in shambles
ebon musk
DIESOFCRINGE
all of these are crappy ops anyways
crisp bolt
Shamare crappy?
fast basin
never e2 unit for base doesnt apply to proviso, she's that good in base
cosmic thicket
yeah
ancient hearth
i'm gonna go try it tomorrow, finishing h12-3 has me spent
versed monolith
hello, does anyone have tips for H12-1? I have been stuck at it for over 4 hours
I understand the stage and the mobs are no threat, but I simply just can't deal with the boss, it takes me three days and a half to take down phase 1, then phase 2 starts, it invokes the drones, and any DPS or medic gets instadeleted by the corrosion even if I spread them out to avoid the cross shaped explosion from their spawn, quickly followed by the tanks who are now at 0 DEF because someone has to tank the bosses.
If I make it past the first attack, the rest of the mobs die no problem, but it doesn't matter because if I resist a drone attack, the next ones on the squishy characters are guaranteed to kill them because they now have less DEF... just what am I supposed to do.
Here is the krooster https://krooster.com/u/MetaThPr4h if anyone wants to check, I might be not realizing something about how the boss works or something 
ancient hearth
scroll up for some setups
river atlas
eh i've kinda reached endgame anyways
Wrong
turbid badge
https://youtu.be/l6DI27s6NVQ?si=6Ci8Yc7lWTd0_f_2
lol i saw that
river atlas
Having the minimum ops needed to clear content is mid to late game 
cosmic thicket
nah you're endgame when you deliberately make questionable decisions in your roster
river atlas
Endgame is when u start raising ops for their meme potential 
latent anvil
fr
river atlas
Mullberry, proud member of surtr hospital 
dusky glade
cyan gorge
H12-2 fried my brain
grizzled otter
does each of the H stages have the boss
H12-2 doesnt atleast
though each time she appears they add another buff to her through adverse
river atlas
does each of the H stages have the boss
H12-2 is full of drone spawners instead 
cinder pike
thats fine tho, I can mylar it\
turbid badge
H12-2 is full of drone spawners instead <:LappKek:637389377026392064>
reed s3, mlynar
And i bait with summons and dollkeeper trust
and i reveal with lunacub or smth
cosmic thicket
i baited summons with cuora and hung
turbid badge
(i havent finished h12-20
cyan gorge
I used Exu for the first time in forever
cinder pike
exu works pretty well
turbid badge
shes only in my gunknights team
cosmic thicket
yeah
grizzled otter
how to stop getting my ass kicked in by h12-4
cinder pike
mald harder
grizzled otter
cant argue with that
steep tartan
gigachad
polar crane
H12-2 fried my brain <:ReedBean:1151601576700559390>
h12-3 microwave it again
latent monolith
Just use lin+shining(I haven't done 12-20 yet)
lethal dragon
Eureka convulsion
lethal dragon
H12-4 was so annoying holy shit
flat sapphire
Permanent accnt dmg
lethal dragon
what do you have to say about ba player = permanent life dmg
lethal dragon
Ok you aren't going to get to brag about playing more gacha games
flat sapphire
Ok you aren't going to get to brag about playing more gacha games
I'm bragging about playing a better gacha game
noble pewter
what is better gacha game?
novel pivot
Finally finished h12-3
i hate this game
the boss chose to retreat mountain which is a godsend
peak cloak
what is better gacha game?
arknights ofc
lethal dragon
even lin mod lvl 3 on h12-2 didn't do shit, she got melted
Yeah sadly Lin can't tank those drones
rose patrol
idk why they gave the boss this much HP
river atlas
i prefer bosses that have low hp but have interesting mechanics <:BlitzSmile:826...
U mean bosses mylnar can instakill?
fierce hawk
i prefer bosses that have low hp but have interesting mechanics <:BlitzSmile:826...
Andolyn
Or the laser girl on chapter 8 i think
unkempt lintel
deym oh mah god i rly hate those flying ๐ฅ
polar crane
deym oh mah god i rly hate those flying ๐ฅ
what
glass monolith
idk why they gave the boss this much HP
Don't forget damage reduction and actual defensive stats 
glass monolith
Hold my Blacknight S2 
Her sleeping civilians is most dumb interaction ever and i love it
Have you tried blocking/killing dude who make civilians unblockable? 
cyan gorge
I give up on H12-3
Idk how I'm expect to block 2 lanes of boss when I can barely keep up one
polar crane
I give up on H12-3
told you it microwave your brain
unkempt lintel
maaan u all talking bout h12-3, but im still stuck at h12-2
south bone
Lol i haven't even touched the H stages yet
unkempt lintel
i just want to abuse the sanity refund when failed
tropic valve
I give up on H12-3
I found it helpful to hold with Mulberry and 2 rotating Defenders
and rotate through burst sources: Schwarz, Rosa, Mlynar, Surtr
you don't have to block right side too much since it spawns late
cyan gorge
But when it does I lose
Also Mulberry only slows the corrosion a tiny bit
And 3 of those burst sources I don't own
tropic valve
it doesn't have to be those specifically
cyan gorge
Well my current options either don't work on the map or die before doing any damage
tropic valve
do you have Mudrock?
cyan gorge
Yeah but I've not been able to get over 34 dp cap
tropic valve
oh hmm
you could consider bringing some cheaper 3-blocks like Noir Corne for the opener
should be able to push your DP cap into the 40's
with a DP cap under 40, it's hard to transition into phase 2
cyan gorge
I'm pressed for squad slots as is
I'm not sure a minimum invested Mud is gonna help much
tropic valve
hmm yeah idk about Mud actually
for the opener, if you drop a 2-block, 3-block, and 3-block, without doing anything fancy, that gives you 40 DP cap
cyan gorge
I just don't know how and where to hold cause I haven't seen a single ss that doesn't use some combination of Mlynar, NG, Skalter
tropic valve
the 3-blocks can also be your 2 Defenders for stalling later, so it shouldn't eat into your squad budget
cyan gorge
So I stall left side clones, but you haven't told me what to do once the right side one spawns
that's where I'm struggling
tropic valve
generally that's when you shift strategy from stalling to bursting
since outhealing 3 copies is not doable long term for most teams
cyan gorge
My burst options are limited to Horn, Fia, Pozy and Kal
I doubt Irene or Ch'en will do shit
unkempt lintel
this still happens in h stages????
tropic valve
idk why they gave the boss this much HP
in terms of raw HP 150k isn't that much but the issue is that it's 2 bars and several layers of damage reduction, so it feels more like 600k
latent monolith
Rathalos takes double damage when stunned too
cyan gorge
the 3-blocks can also be your 2 Defenders for stalling later, so it shouldn't ea...
Idk
vernal lion
POV: I commit genocide route
noble pewter
POV: I commit genocide route
does this strat work for h12-4?
cyan gorge
I have doubts
tropic valve
maybe try something like
cyan gorge
I still haven't gotten any placement advice
glass monolith
does this strat work for h12-4?
Laugh in +50% HP
tropic valve
so the boss has 5 HP segments right
try something like, Pozy segment 1, Horn segment 2, Mlynar segment 3, (phase change) Surtr segment 4, Mlynar segment 5
vernal lion
h12-4 issue is not only boss' clones, but the built-up corrosion dmg
heady hedge
I feel like this team can win
but the team doesnt have schwarz
noble pewter
h12-4 issue is not only boss' clones, but the built-up corrosion dmg
corrosion dmg is just 800 dmg every proc or is the proc dmg stacking as well? 
its jsut the reduce def that stacks right?
no increasing fixed dmg right?
tropic valve
in terms of placement make sure Mlynar and Surtr are hitting 3 clones at the same time
noble pewter
Idk
for me, borrowed lv90 mlynar just tears thru boss without any problems on h12-3, just deploy ur guys diagonally, make sure someone unimportant gets eaten, n dont let any absurdist ppl hit ur ops, even if u have 0 def, boss cant get thru blocker
tropic valve
you don't have to make EVERYONE diagonal, but definitely try not to let your ranged ops eat the AoE in phase 2
that often leads to healers dying
noble pewter
i dunno how the boss drone works, but it seem each do 800 dmg or sth on appearance of what so if ur ranged op is adjacent each other, make sure they have at least 1600 hp or else they will surely die, lumen n kalsit have higher hp pools so they dont feel much
honeyberry provides +10% max hp all ranged op in range or something so she can help some ranged op survive
vernal lion
the explosion dmg is arts dmg
tropic valve
the summoning deal 375 arts damage in a cross-shaped aoe around each op, and then each hand does damage + corrosion continuously for a while
signal granite
Pain, last stage is painful, even hardly copy from youtube also hard to clear 
tropic valve
since corrosion damage is tripled in all H stages, ranged units will often eat that arts damage + corrosion proc which they cannot survive
cyan gorge
So what am I supposed to do about bottom again?
vernal lion
Pain, last stage is painful, even hardly copy from youtube also hard to clear <:...
in this case, Dreadnought and Crusher are just built for this 
tropic valve
I used Schwarz + Suzuran for bottom lane; in this case you could probably alternate Pozy and Surtr?
void wasp
Pain, last stage is painful, even hardly copy from youtube also hard to clear <:...
i wouldn't call any of those clears i couldn't see any guide without consist of full meta units
tropic valve
let Silvergun cook
vernal lion
Silvergun when he takes out his Chestnut...
signal granite
Finally clear it,
Ya full of meta squad, cz without some trained operator from guide, use lot of time to understand and find a replacement
Maybe i should train more healing defender 
void wasp
you can give up on getting medal and leak the boss
he takes 1 circle around and goes to top right exit
cyan gorge
No medal, no point
void wasp
no medal, no point? ok then you accept the impending doom, i prefer getting Morgan's pots and leave these stages
cyan gorge
I'm not playing for Morgan tho
signal granite
Maybe just leave the stage, and beat them again with better operator in future? Since the reward and stage will remain there
void wasp
i currently have only Chesnut built to E1lv60 (didn't buy the 600 red cert cost berry and other berry E0lv1)
not planning on killing that boss until i have proper wandering medic
vernal lion
you don't even need wandering medic in H stage kekw
cyan gorge
Mulberry only just delays the inevitable
vernal lion
the built-up corrosion dmg is always like 70% lol
tropic valve
Now I'm gonna give up
what killed your healers?
the summon?
most healers can survive 1 summon + 1 corrosion proc, but 2 summons will kill frailer ones if the cross-shaped aoe hits them
cyan gorge
The summon nuked both medics
cyan gorge
This happened on H12-1, Ptilo always gets one shot regardless of positioning
noble pewter
is there any reward for clearing h stages now rather than later?
tropic valve
nope, it's just that you get encourage sanity refunds now
but you can always use practice plans later
tropic valve
This happened on H12-1, Ptilo always gets one shot regardless of positioning
that's a bit surprising, Ptilopsis is fragile but not THAT fragile?
did you make sure she wasn't adjacent to anyone?
cyan gorge
I never moved her positioning from the earlier ss
It might've been cause I place Mlynar next to her
either way I doubt much would've changed
I still have no way to cover right side
signal granite
... i just saw one H12-4 run, the boss dont run 50% hp invulnerable in phase 2 
Is it cz by Rosa S3 bind?
Video from "Storn"
tropic valve
there's a bit of delay
if you burst fast enough you can skip it
or if you camo your entire team with heavyrain you can also skip it
Rosa is a good choice there because she hits multitarget
weak gazelle
hmmm
not as hard as i thought
noble pewter
what can replace nightingale for h12-4? or mlynar?
boreal magnet
what can replace nightingale for h12-4? <:RosThink:826566635313299466> or mlyna...
question, how do you unlock h12?
boreal magnet
why mine not unlocked tho
noble pewter
question, how do you unlock h12?
only show in map on adverse difficulty
boreal magnet
wtf, lemme double check
did it just available like yasterday? i dont remember its been there along
fast basin
around 10hrs ago
fierce meteor
vocal leaf
this was pretty fun, looks like theyโre praising perfume
tidal sedge
h12-1
should I bring Mlynar merc or Surtr merc?
or is there any better merc than these two
(merc = borrow)
remote ice
If you donโt have elem medic you can choose to borrow that if you plan to stall boss
waxen swan
Okay im not impressed with ines
tidal sedge
I have my berries at E1 Max Level SL 7 and should be enough
but this stage screams at my ears to E2 them ASAP
tropic valve
this was pretty fun, looks like theyโre praising perfume <:Amiyaya:6263978066761...
beautiful placement
remote ice
Damatzi does so much elemental damage in h12-4
This is how HG sells eyjaberry
novel pivot
This is how HG sells eyjaberry <:RedOmegaLul:1002227534622117918>
i just punched through with ng and lumen
she basically does the entire bar in 3 seconds
Kaltstit s2 being good once again
Saileach is pretty busted here
lets you deploy horn with only 1 resource box destroyed
fierce meteor
andoaint there?
No
boreal magnet
thats slightly relieving
fierce meteor
The map is brain dead for some operators
crisp bolt
A lot of it is trying to keep the towers from dying
civic bear
just take over tower whenever possible. those thing carries
versed arrow
or rather, its controlling when the tower dies, the 2 tower on the left being in the enemy control at the end is quite annoying
crisp bolt
Using spot to stall enemies so you can recover tower
fierce meteor
A juggernaut can hold the entire game if the tower is buffing allies
idle matrix
The DP drain in adverse 12-20 is fucking aids
How do you deal with this cancerous stage?
crisp bolt
Nuke the ammo guys before they can deal damage
idle matrix
Imagine designing a game without fucking cancerous CC mechanics
Ugh cleared it. Whoever designed this stage, I hope you step on a Lego today.
glass monolith
I love H12-1, it is so far when lowest tier of spy come in pairs and double crit from being revealed oneshot defenders, it is fine
Also boss skill to do ranged attack just nukes ass of last deployed character
fierce meteor
vernal lion
I like how they just give you very short time to take your max DP limit from civis
vernal lion
no, they're just civis
crisp bolt
Oh that's not too bad
autumn grotto
I like how they just give you very short time to take your max DP limit from civ...
that looks gay as hell
H 2 or 3
vernal lion
3
autumn grotto
aight thx for the early knowledge imma bring a wandering medic as well
or maybe just purestream
autumn grotto
The DP drain in adverse 12-20 is fucking aids
12-20 is ok u just need double flag bearer and break boxes fast
at least that how i dealt with everything after 12-18
i set up pretty fast with reasonably high dp ops with that
autumn grotto
how should i aproach this?
what ur ops look like
i did support thorns top nxt to middle tower point left to hit the far left tower
defender other lane for thorns to dps
horn right behind to attack the bottom legt tower (can be replaced with ifrit positioned correctly
bottom left single lane i did mudrock, top lane i did blaze at the stairs point down to help thorns
other dps when necessary i basically followed the afk guide anyway
alpine pewter
need help with 12-20
tried to stall boss at two clones but my left lane just fucking dies after the two clones die and the whirly green damage and explodo blobs appear
celest solstice
hello hello I need help and no I do not have a wandering medic pls dont ask
and yes I have checked the almighty lord god of guides called KyoStinv
signal granite
no need Wandering Medic ya
celest solstice
ya
I want to defeat this with no wandering
Ive been attempting to do it with this and Ling but to no avail
fierce meteor
hello hello I need help and no I do not have a wandering medic pls dont ask
Adverse or normal
celest solstice
adverse
grand ginkgo
are your guards really worse than 145 beagle
celest solstice
Im following this one
celest solstice
and I failed
last I checked I failed spectacularly halfway through the video
either one of the dragons die before I can get em up
or my defender cant be replaced early
grand ginkgo
problem is that maxed out 3s actually are just stronger than your ops
for the most part
though id imagine you can cover for that with raw power
grand ginkgo
ill get back to you in like 10min and watch the guide if you dont mind
celest solstice
I personally am too lazy,no lmd
I also have no lmd, were the same
celest solstice
ill get back to you in like 10min and watch the guide if you dont mind
sure, I eventually dont even use kaltsit or reed or mostima lmao
fierce meteor
I also have no lmd, were the same
They don't give lmd for adverse,that's why
celest solstice
They don't give lmd for adverse,that's why
i just want OP
fierce meteor
i just want OP
You want to buy a skin?
celest solstice
nah
grand ginkgo
first time clear rewards are pretty big tbh
3x tickets included
fierce meteor
Ticket directly for Lmd
turbid badge
first time clear rewards are pretty big tbh
3x tickets included
hi kuv
how u cleared
12-
grand ginkgo
12-what
turbid badge
12 stages
smoky swan
THERES 4 OF THEM
celest solstice
THERES 4 OF THEM<:AstesiaBlank:621494232661884957> <:HellaKek:735650408340521020...
that seems sad
celest solstice
ill get back to you in like 10min and watch the guide if you dont mind
hows the guide
fierce meteor
Why do I see the curse as a bless
deft badger
does someone know why texas takes less dmg then yato?
i know if she kills someone she takes 25% less dmg but even without killing someone she takes less then yato, yato having more def btw
vernal lion
her 2nd talent
deft badger
yes but doesn't it say she has to kill someone to get the 25%
fierce meteor
yes but doesn't it say she has to kill someone to get the 25%
She may have more HP
vernal lion
yea you missed read that part
celest solstice
reading is a skill i don't have lol
EN players 
deft badger
i used her to tank manfred, sk and some other bosses
didn't get why they are not able to kill her xD
but ok now i understan
celest solstice
Kuv has disappeared, oh no
vernal lion
I have to say this H12-4 is hardest stage I have ever met
deft badger
still didn't do any of the hell stages xD
celest solstice
still didn't do any of the hell stages xD
I only done chapter 9 hell stages
deft badger
not mentally ready for it lol
deft badger
I only done chapter 9 hell stages <:HellaKek:735650408340521020>
i mean cp12
deft badger
did try h12-1 for a hour was to tired went to sleep
celest solstice
challenge it when feel ready
when you know you will never be ready 
celest solstice
in a couple min ๐
also in a couple of minutes: dies within the first 2 seconds
deft badger
also in a couple of minutes: *dies within the first 2 seconds*
nah i already have a plan lol
weak gazelle
hahaha
celest solstice
nah i already have a plan lol
make it 3 seconds
weak gazelle
chap 12 only have 3 type enemy that able to hit hard
fierce meteor
I hope I could killed civilians in this game
weak gazelle
same, my honest wish
fiery marsh
H12-1 corrosion boost added a good chunk of difficulty, honeyberry healling couldnt keep up.
H12-4 have the corrosion boost again btw?
weak gazelle
only from sarkaz caster right?
so best bet bait it with frd if doesnt want to solely rely on outheal it
novel pivot
I have to say this H12-4 is hardest stage I have ever met
Its incredibly goofy
novel pivot
H12-4 have the corrosion boost again btw?
even beeger corrosion in h12-4
Damatzi will clear the gauge in 2 hits
I applaud h12-4 for being the only stage in this game where I have ever borrowed mlynar
tidal sedge
Is honeyberry really the best option when it comes what the archetype does than a mulberry?
weak gazelle
dollkeeper it then
change form will remove that issue :clueless:
one of the solution
polar crane
Is honeyberry really the best option when it comes what the archetype does than ...
yeah honey is better at healing element
turbid badge
scebe skin is top tier
novel pivot
Honeyberry with that geega s1
tidal sedge
yeah honey is better at healing element
That's sad to know because I like Mulberry but oh well
I even had her skin
polar crane
I raised mulberry as well
novel pivot
i kind of regret m3 mullbery s2 now
In every is3 run honeyberry much easier to use
The only reason to use her is delaying the reaper chunking
fierce meteor
Pretty fucked
weak gazelle
help channel already tell it from long ago
honeyberry is the best for elemental heal
mull come second
polar crane
mulberry have 2 skin so she's better
fiery marsh
even beeger corrosion in h12-4
Damatzi will clear the gauge in 2 hits
๐ญ
novel pivot
๐ญ
i accepted
this is the entire stage
my defenders are gonna sit at 0 def
Mon3tr is being carried by s2
fierce meteor
my defenders are gonna sit at 0 def
Just like crushers
novel pivot
Just like crushers
but with none of the atk
saileach very op
horn can be deployed
for 25 dp
Which is the limit after breaking 1 box
fierce meteor
but with none of the atk
They are useless if they have 0 def
fiery marsh
my defenders are gonna sit at 0 def
Yep, i Just did h12-1 and had to out heal It with saria/nearl and perfurmer and pto
fiery marsh
Took a lot of tries and wanted to do try a low number of ops challange but the best i could do is 9, maybe If i had better healers
fierce meteor
My nian and saria
Nian must have the highest def
noble pewter
so if i use ptilop + perfumer is it as good as having a nightingale?
livid bobcat
I got bored and was just memeing with 3op but it ended up being possible
was just recording to see how long it took and it took 1 try
void fossil
man its my first time seeing hoshi get 0 def in h12-1 that damn corrosion is so annoying
novel pivot
Nian must have the highest def
both went to zero before phase 2
Lumen and ng kept them alive
And saria got buffed by horn
noble pewter
because i dont have nightingale but need to borrow mlynar to kill stuff fast hmm or if i borrow nightingale, how do i kill stuff fast, no chenalter too
novel pivot
Nightingale is pretty pogU for h12-4
fierce meteor
both went to zero before phase 2
Lumen can't cancel the Def debuff?
novel pivot
Makes damatzi less of a headache
novel pivot
Lumen can't cancel the Def debuff?
No, only neg status
Like cold, stun, or freeze
If def debuff could be cancelled this stage would be way easier
fiery marsh
so if i use ptilop + perfumer is it as good as having a nightingale? <:RosThink:...
They both covering all the meele ops at same time worked to me, but because of corrosion certin mobs will Just kill the Defenders, even the big sarkaz sword Guy, so you need or to Burst healling when they get to the defenders or intercept them with something
novel pivot
the thing ng prevents is your ops getting critical state from damatzi burst
without ng expect your ops to fall to 10% hp
fiery marsh
without ng expect your ops to fall to 10% hp
Yep, Very risky
fiery marsh
Intalked about my experience in 12-1 i didnt 4 yet
novel pivot
Yep, Very risky
the biggest annoyance in h12-4 is letting your ng survive without getting oneshot
my ng is lvl 90 mod3
fiery marsh
Am taking a break
novel pivot
And dies if no s3 on 2nd damatzi burst
me no smort so just took this whelbrain squad to h12-4
fiery marsh
And dies if no s3 on 2nd damatzi burst
Seems like i will curse a lot in this stage ๐
novel pivot
Still took me 5 hours cuz i stubbornly used sash instead of surtr
So turns out the key was just
deft badger
novel pivot
To not use sash
deft badger
so far running ok xD
novel pivot
Seems like i will curse a lot in this stage ๐
the micro is pretty goofy
i couldve borrowed skalter and just swept it
but me no like borrowing supporter
Skalter really makes this stage a lot easier
fringe jackal
How do you stop ng from dying
noble pewter
They both covering all the meele ops at same time worked to me, but because of c...
this can work for h12-4?
novel pivot
novel pivot
this can work for h12-4?
well i used ng in h12-4 and people still get oneshot
i cant fathom doing this without res buff
noble pewter
well i used ng in h12-4 and people still get oneshot <:IfritLaugh:67856536384726...
wtf, how n why
novel pivot
Stage is wild
fringe jackal
Oh god it's over
noble pewter
Stage is wild
is ur formation how many ppl adjacent to each other?
novel pivot
is ur formation how many ppl adjacent to each other?
only 3 ops are adjacent to each other
Rest are all zigzagged
noble pewter
can u show pic for reference?
novel pivot
Even so, it still requires support to remove the fragments
novel pivot
can u show pic for reference?
wait imma try running it
be back in maybe 10 mins
malding it just to show
noble pewter
or use the ptrs map planner thingy just to show
novel pivot
or use the ptrs map planner thingy just to show <:Bnuuy:926515462722973746>
i gotta do it anyway
fiery marsh
Dont know, i will try the same tho
fringe jackal
I have learnt never to put H stages on the pulls by date estimator for sure
olive widget
Any suggestion for H12-3? What unit is best to bring/borrow ?
deft badger
trying different setups but my team gets blowen up by the stupid drones ....
karmic niche
guys how beat 12-20 adverse
real marten
trying different setups but my team gets blowen up by the stupid drones ....
Simply just heal the damage
karmic niche
kind tartan
Are there any guides for h12-4?
I tried to search in yt and most of them involve E290 ops which I can't afford
I only have E260 ops
deft badger
Simply just heal the damage
nvm this did work
karmic niche
HOW BEAT 12-20
kind tartan
Are there any guides for h12-4?
I tried to search in yt and most of them involv...
Please?
latent anvil
Any suggestion for H12-3? What unit is best to bring/borrow ?
Honeyberry
olive widget
Should i e2 her ?
latent anvil
Unless ur units all weak then just mlynar
fathom jay
Try chinese bilibili
latent anvil
Should i e2 her ?
idk but she actually lets ur units live at high lvl 
just borrow if you have decent units
kind tartan
i think there is a ling guide
I tried to find but idk what to search specifically
olive widget
I tried using ifrit, since i don't have mlynar, but fails
deft badger
I tried to find but idk what to search specifically
scroll up someone posted it couple hours ago
kind tartan
Try chinese bilibili
Almost 100% of videos I found involves E290 ops
real marten
I've seen reedalter be decent at surviving her little floating crystal things
Or clearing them
olive widget
Due to dp limit, and ifrit can't be re call back if retreated, and many mlynar guide involve skadi alter and kalt'tsit, which i don't have either of them.
fathom jay
its here actually
The guy asked about H12-4, not about 12-20. Reading failed
deft badger
๐
fiery marsh
HOW BEAT 12-20
https://youtu.be/RSBeu5OgZQs?si=aEFM9QVevhyU2yYy
Isnt the same ops but well, maybe gives you an idea
deft badger
The guy asked about H12-4, not about 12-20. Reading failed
then we get back to the questing what do they have...
kind tartan
scroll up someone posted it couple hours ago
I'm so lost
fathom jay
Almost 100% of videos I found involves E290 ops
That doesn't necessarily mean that you need L90 ops, trying wouldn't hurt
deft badger
but 12-4 should be easy doable
deft badger
I'm so lost
i failed, wasn't reading... for some reason i thought u are looking for 12-20
screen ur squad
fathom jay
It's not 12-4, it's H12-4. Hellfire stages
kind tartan
That doesn't necessarily mean that you **need** L90 ops, trying wouldn't hurt
I tried Kyo and Oyuki strat but probably many factors I can't afford to complete yet like Kyo's E290 ops and Oyuki's modules unlocked etc etc
deft badger
It's not 12-4, it's **H**12-4. Hellfire stages
yeah f- me today... just ignore me
celest solstice
meanwhile Kuv hasnt spoke about the video after awhile and Im stuck here looking at 12-20 adverse like a dog staring at a ball
anyone have alternative suggestions to beat 12-20 adverse
WITHOUT a wandering medic
deft badger
meanwhile Kuv hasnt spoke about the video after awhile and Im stuck here looking...
what do u have?
i didn't use one skalter makes it easy actually + thorns who claps all the drones
celest solstice
there are drones in 12-20?
deft badger
that little balls that fly around ur head
fiery marsh
Boss spawns a drone thing, but doesnt walk to blue box, Just do damage
celest solstice
that little balls that fly around ur head
ah those things
actually Im stupid I have a kroosters account
karmic niche
https://youtu.be/RSBeu5OgZQs?si=aEFM9QVevhyU2yYy
Isnt the same ops but well, may...
I cant even get past when th guy splits into 2
deft badger
depends what's killing u
fathom jay
**WITHOUT** a wandering medic
The video is linked above. Low rarity + Ling doesn't use a wandering medic
celest solstice
how do you share krooster'
karmic niche
everything at once dude
celest solstice
The video is linked above. Low rarity + Ling doesn't use a wandering medic
oh I know
deft badger
but that's the most dmg u get there balls and the buys dressed in black ๐
karmic niche
there's the snipers draining all my dp, the boss splits into 2, armored spies and especially that green fucker
I cant deal with it all
fathom jay
Tbf sth like E1 50 Honeyberry should be enough for the stage and it's a decent investment
celest solstice
Tbf sth like E1 50 Honeyberry should be enough for the stage and it's a decent i...
No Im e2ing saga rn, no can do
fiery marsh
Tbf sth like E1 50 Honeyberry should be enough for the stage and it's a decent i...
For 12-20 is
deft badger
its just that I struggle with it
i expect u have couple 6 stars, krooster? ๐
kind tartan
screen ur squad
Here's my squad
Don't mind my Ines E290 I am sleepy that time and accidentally maxed her
celest solstice
how do I share
celest solstice
i expect u have couple 6 stars, krooster? ๐
yeah not much tho
deft badger
Here's my squad
Don't mind my Ines E290 I am sleepy that time and accidentally ...
bro i did read it wrong can't help u at h12-4 still didn't get there
celest solstice
might as well share this instead
fathom jay
how do I share
Account -> settings
fiery marsh
I cant deal with it all
My tip is remain the two First Boss stall in the left, use mylnar on the right to kill everything right First. For the Green guy bring your specter alter If you need to buy a little of time. Slap Defenders + healers in the right to stall until mylnar skills. The timing for mylnar Will pretty much be the same from the video
Gravel + honey e1 can hold the First Boss so you save dp
celest solstice
might as well share this instead
the only other thing thats useful is probably my elysium
ah here we go, I was wondering how
https://krooster.com/u/RamminRam
karmic niche
might as well share this instead
I would put my stuff into that database but it would take too long
karmic niche
My tip is remain the two First Boss stall in the left, use mylnar on the right t...
dont have mynyr
deft badger
hmm.. use mountain kal for right side
mud reed silver blaze left side borrow skalter ad a healer on the left
bring a 1 block that can sustain the dmg taken when blaze dies, but u can block with texas as well
fiery marsh
dont have mynyr
Borrow, he really is a god in this stage
celest solstice
I would put my stuff into that database but it would take too long
convenience of not having to start with a large count of operators
fathom jay
It doesn't really take long though, there is a 'batch edit' feature with editable presets
deft badger
what should I bring
hmm.. use mountain kal for right side
mud reed silver blaze left side borrow skalter ad a healer on the left
bring a 1 block that can sustain the dmg taken when blaze dies, but u can block with texas as well
karmic niche
My tip is remain the two First Boss stall in the left, use mylnar on the right t...
dont have gravel or honey ๐ญ
karmic niche
convenience of not having to start with a large count of operators <:HellaKek:73...
fair
deft badger
would try it like this but i am not sure if there will be enough dmg, to kill it fast enough before u die ๐
actually
when blaze dies block it with monster
karmic niche
dont have kalsit
deft badger
there will be a spawn stop on the right side at a point so u can recall moster
and ulty on the boss
i mean @celest solstice
karmic niche
here goes
celest solstice
something like this?
deft badger
@celest solstice purple reed, blue skalter, yellow blaze facing down, green silver, orange healer, red mud
deft badger
right side kal mountain
karmic niche
HOLY SHIT I HAVE A SHOT
celest solstice
if blaze dies?
celest solstice
<@408556173835501578> purple reed, blue skalter, yellow blaze facing down, green...
wait just for clarification, mudrock facing top or left?
deft badger
if blaze dies?
she will die when there is a spawn stop on right u just block with monster and ulty the boss should die at that point
mud facing left side
kind tartan
bro i did read it wrong can't help u at h12-4 still didn't get there
I think I'll wait for someone here that cleared H12-4 then
Anyways thanks
deft badger
nah kal is going to the right side to def there with mountain u just place monster later when blaze goes down to block the boss with ulty or monster dies
fierce hawk
anybody got a strategy for h12-3???????????
deft badger
and don't waste all ur CDs do it slowly and burst at the end
it might not even work since u have to do dmg get it down to not stack to much or mud dies and u leak and u can't do it to fast since blaze dies and u can't get monster to hold the boss
karmic niche
I am going to kill somebody
glass monolith
And now you won't have sanity shield because stage is "won"
turbid badge
l
celest solstice
rip
deft badger
so kal on top facing left to replace spot yes?
that my setup, u just use kal on the right side with mountain
celest solstice
deft badger
deft badger
if u plan on blocking with monster later i would go with s3
i think s3 has higher dmg output?
celest solstice
Im struggling rn
the right side is leaking, I cant get dp for left
wtf is this stage
deft badger
yeah dp is a pain in the a- xD
deft badger
the only reason i am able to deploy all that s- is myrtle and ines
celest solstice
THE RIGHT SIDE CANT LEAK
fierce hawk
Im struggling rn
what stage are you in?
celest solstice
12-20 adverse
deft badger
u can even start deploying on the right side
but u are going to need the middle boxes
till the boxes are up they all walk right
novel pivot
I keep messing up trying to recreate my h12-4 clear 
deft badger
u don't lose sanity so u can try out till u have it the way u need it
verbal sparrow
how is viviana's DPS compared to surtr
karmic niche
2 TRIES LATER WE WIN THESE!!!!!!!!
latent anvil
how is viviana's DPS compared to surtr
Slightly better single target, better buff target
celest solstice
why do I feel like Eunectes E2 would be useful
verbal sparrow
assuming we're talking about S3 then
yeah she has to have higher single-target DPS to be worth the trouble
fierce meteor
attempting this
the ex wife doesn't have her module?
celest solstice
ex wife? who?
jovial nest
h12-1 took me a decent while.
Can't wait to try the rest tomorrow (no sanity)
Those Agitator spawntimes were a bit rough
fiery marsh
2 TRIES LATER WE WIN THESE!!!!!!!!
Now do hell stages
fiery marsh
H ones
karmic niche
wtf are those
fiery marsh
Hell
jovial nest
harder maps
jovial nest
dude, those exist everywhere ever since....Ch6?
karmic niche
???
fierce meteor
ex wife? who?
kal
karmic niche
yo that morgan pot is actually really good
fierce meteor
people say to wait for her module
oh ok
celest solstice
so... Im still struggling on the right side 
then suddenly I get hit with those 4 invis men at the left
menacingly looking at my boxes
I cant do jackshit
I cant get to boss phase 2 and I leak 1
Ill try to use s2 on Kal
fierce meteor
still better squad than mine
glacial carbon
feels like you need another tank instead of gravel
deft badger
well at least u know what u should build next, lumen and maybe gummy xD
polar crane
mudrock in ch12 
fast basin
will never see the light of day
celest solstice
well at least u know what u should build next, lumen and maybe gummy xD
I have no lumen
deft badger
who
u joined apr.2022
lumen was in sep
nvm SN rerun is this month or at the start of the next month
deft badger
depends what they are going to drop first SN or Mumu
celest solstice
lumen was in sep
I left a month after
for a year
came back this year with Chongyue event
deft badger
ah ok that explains the lvl
not better joined at sep left in dec 2022 came back at may for texas
and i realized i need saria -.-
celest solstice
anyone got ideas on how I can defeat adverse in less day 5 days?
celest solstice
Im playing sick
turbid badge
they should really drop sn first
novel pivot
novel pivot
My h12-4 clear speed is 8:50 realtime
turbid badge
yeah lees isnt hallloween set
celest solstice
I want someone to handhold me in 12-20 adverse pls
turbid badge
oh it is halloween set
celest solstice
turbid badge
anyways
novel pivot
I want someone to handhold me in 12-20 adverse pls
Mountain and honeyberry
novel pivot
celest solstice
I have just spent my lmd to e1 60 saga
because a certain saga cultist urged me to e2 her immediately after I was satisfied with e2 mizuki
I could e1 her actually
deft badger
painnn!
deft badger
I have just spent my lmd to e1 60 saga
did e2 her 3 days later i got ines now she sitting on the bench
wasted
latent anvil
a saga is all you need
deft badger
she is nice but ines...
tidal sedge
Finally, time for chapter 12
deft badger
now its down to skadi or saria when it comes to the selector pack
https://krooster.com/u/TheUnknownMs
tropic valve
I want someone to handhold me in 12-20 adverse pls
have you tried the Mulberry left side stall I posted?
/ Honeyberry should be the same
celest solstice
have you tried the Mulberry left side stall I posted?
As I said
well I dont think I said it earlier
my wandering medic is level 50 e0
just lvl 50ed it a few hours ago
tropic valve
might still work
or bring a traditional medic, and swap Defenders
2 E2 Defenders can probably rotate forever
weak gazelle
a shitty run
it took me a whole 12 slot
polar crane
congrat
tropic valve
Tequila really goated
deft badger
deft badger
anybody got a strategy for h12-3?
do u have to fight the boss in h12-3?
deft badger
fierce hawk
its fucking hard
rough current
anybody got a strategy for h12-3?
Same. h12-3 is...amusing.
deft badger
well i guess that's the end for me till i get skadi
fierce hawk
then do like 5 bursts
im good with the burst
my ops doesnt survive
lol
why do I not have NG or skadi alter fk