strategy

[stiff drum]

So I’ll just get materials for the specialist

[shy escarp]

Kindly show us ur lineup?

[polar crane]

kindly is a scammer word dont use it

[deft badger]

i forgot that map exists xD

[glass monolith]

That's too complex question
We have 8 classes, among each class alot archetypes. Most archetypes share general stuff (block count, how of each stat they have etc). But all characters have their own skills and talents, and some specific cases demand specific character(s) because simply matching talent, skill range, etc

[stiff drum]

Probably fine

[glass monolith]

(explodes)

[shy escarp]

Swap siege s1 to s2. I believe it's doable with ur current lineup but I can hardly remember that stage anymore so im afraid im not gonna be able to help you with it. Gl anyway

Other guys might be able to help u tho

Aight cya

[deft badger]

what should i lvlup now? kinder confused

btw dont say mlynar he will be the last xD

[glass monolith]

Like... How?

What you were even doing to have that much unbuild 6*s?

[deft badger]

thats what i got in the past 2 months bro

not included the 6 stars i already did lvlup

[glass monolith]

Bruh can't relate

[shy escarp]

E0 lvl 1 mlynar jumpscare

[deft badger]

did e2 gladiia +mod3, spalter +mod3, yato +mod3, ines

i have lmd for one right now

[glass monolith]

i had 5 millions lmd before dead weeks started. Now i have 2

[deft badger]

lucky that we did have so many events in the past weeks i wouldn't even be able to do that much

[shy escarp]

Just go mlynar if ur a meta dood

[deft badger]

got him tonight

[glass monolith]

This time of year is best to just start building stuff - dead weeks, CC, chapter release

[polar crane]

but cc is dead

[deft badger]

ain't going to do mlynar its stainless, shamare, sail atm...
mumu will be soon selector will get my skadi then i have to E2 her and get that mod3

[shy escarp]

Well congrats i guess ak content will be dead if u build him

[deft badger]

i don't even borrow him and i don't like him at all xD

[glass monolith]

It was literally announced on CN at same day global got last CC coins

[shy escarp]

Is it still possible to get currency despite that

?

[glass monolith]

So far no new currency for that shop is known

[polar crane]

you can play training ground

[deft badger]

how big is mumu event?

btw i wanna skip her

[glass monolith]

Ballz

[shy escarp]

There's no way right i mean it's already been 6 months on cn and cc shop is still there for some reason

[glass monolith]

Big, pushable, ballz

[deft badger]

she is limited so i expect the event to be big with big rewards....

btw did u get ur ines?

[glass monolith]

Because daily cc thingy still there i assume for newer players, cant they JUST erase it for good

[glass monolith]

[deft badger]

i know u have in ur name skipping ines but did u try to pull? 😄

[glass monolith]

I did, got in 7, in HSR. Which part of skipping you missed?

I want only male 4* reaper on this banner

[shy escarp]

I forgot to consider that nvm icic

[glass monolith]

Will offbanner him on Mumu i bet

[shy escarp]

Humussy

[glass monolith]

I need him build on Exe alter event anyway for plan which i .... FUCK I DIDNT BUILD PERFUMER

[deft badger]

the reaper i want

who comes first him or typhon?

[glass monolith]

Who Yostar delay for 3 months first?

[polar crane]

it's him

[deft badger]

i wanna know who hits harder actually is it him with his mod3 or chalter xD

[glass monolith]

Well he has his own version of killer queen on S3

[deft badger]

he is soon actually

pog, looking forward to getting him 😂

[glass monolith]

Recall Dorothy situation

(I still triggered we had to face drone boss with no sniper module)

[deft badger]

that guys got me hipped that mumu will be next, they have to drop SN rerun first -.-

then should be mumu

prob at the end of Nov

saw a mod saying that after SN there will be a record restoration for Under Tides

[surreal relic]

Considering JP already has autumn celebration stream announced, it's more likely that Mumu will come first and SN will be moved instead.

If event order doesn't change too much, UT RR should be around 2 months after Chapter 12 ends

[polar crane]

I got my gladia p6 there

she was p5

[deft badger]

i am fine with what ever they do, mumu or sn i take it Ori is Ori.. 😄

[boreal magnet]

what is the best option for solo bottom lane?

[peak cloak]

u can try Mlynar s3 or Reed alter s3. but both will need m3 and will have to redeploy multiple times.

[boreal magnet]

they can hold the round thing that keep coming too?

ahh

redeployed

i see

ill try mlynar first then

[deft badger]

what do u have?

they aint that hard to kill

did have gummy surtr/s2 sitting there

[peak cloak]

no, it will be overwhelming for them in bottom lane. i suggest if u had Kaltsit, use her with s3 or pair Irene s3m2/3 with a healer.

[boreal magnet]

my team i plan to bring

[deft badger]

mountain

help with yato

[peak cloak]

Reed alter and Mlynar's missions are to wipe out robots and they will return to midlee to handle the main waves and last robots, those are a bit challenging.

[deft badger]

keep surtr at s3 for the last wave

[boreal magnet]

i see,.then the option are eithet kaltsit or mountain

[deft badger]

would borrow hoshi to be sure for the last wave rest should be easy

[peak cloak]

kalstit for bottom lane will be better as u have true dmg means kill the cores faster.

[boreal magnet]

oh yeah should i camp near blue box or red box?

[deft badger]

blue

start with tank and chong

eyja to kill upper robos

recall kill left robos

[peak cloak]

for bottom lane ,camp near red box. kaltsit face left

[deft badger]

yato bot robos

mountain bot help him out with yato

[boreal magnet]

alright, im gonna try it, have been stuck on 349 kill count. The bazooka dude really did me nasty

[tidal sedge]

The bottom lane is a joke. Kaltist is overkill

[deft badger]

one sec let my paint it for u xD

[boreal magnet]

okay, ill appreciate that

[deft badger]

blue healer, green eyja, red chong, yellow hoshi, orange tank, black mountain

maybe u need to place the healer a other way to get chong in range

[tidal sedge]

Why not just place mountain further left

[deft badger]

i use lumen so yeah...

doesn't matter where he places him just don't go back they will hit him from the spawn and leave one spot free for yato

infront of him

[tidal sedge]

And you can also move eyja right, and place healer where she was, and face both down

[deft badger]

so he can place him here on that 2 tiles

healer will die

if he places the healer there

eyja dies at the end

but it doesn't matter if he borrows hoshi she will stand they will crash and he can place surtr where chong stands to just kill them

[tidal sedge]

The rocket guys hit 4 enemies, you only have 3 ground unuts there ynless you also place mountain later

Ah surtr ok

[deft badger]

eyja dies chong dies last wave for sure xD

and u can place one more tank behind hoshi just to be save that nothing leaks

[civic bear]

surtr solo kill the last 4 rockets so not a problem

[deft badger]

or a guard

[tidal sedge]

I would just move eyja and healer right anyway

[boreal magnet]

alright, i think mountain shouldnt really need in healer range since s2 and perfurmer passive. so i can put heal to Chong instead

[tidal sedge]

Chongus healing is more important

[deft badger]

u dodn't have to heal mountain, he will need help when the fatter balls spawn

till then he is fine

[civic bear]

mountain should be fine. he'll only struggle against the big balls variant, which you can just yato instakill each

[deft badger]

just drop yato on them

[tidal sedge]

Who are you borrowing btw?

[boreal magnet]

im borrowing mlynar for panic button lmao

[tidal sedge]

Dont you have surtr?

[deft badger]

try mlynar if it doesn't work get hoshi

[boreal magnet]

oh yeah i forgot abour hoshi

[deft badger]

i would go for hoshi anyway since u have surtr u don't need mlynar

but u are free to do xD

s2 hoshi

[tidal sedge]

If you have surtr, I would just borrow ifrit and face her down towards bottom red

Or horn s1 on blue box

[civic bear]

either should work, the only threat would likely be the melee robot which then you want to kill before it reachs ur blocker

[deft badger]

he doesn't need ifrit since nothing will be a problem

chong will kill all of them

last 3 rocket dudes are the problem

[tidal sedge]

He has surtr no?

[civic bear]

he does

[deft badger]

he does but if they kill the tank they are gone xD

[boreal magnet]

yeah i have surtr

[tidal sedge]

No reason to mald about last wave then

[deft badger]

whats that map called again

[boreal magnet]

i missplace mountain and put mly there waiting for redeployed

[civic bear]

just move him to behind horn later. then mountain and keep 1 deploy slot for yato every now and then. easy game

[tidal sedge]

if you placed your ranged ops after any of your ground units, then redeploy your ground units

[boreal magnet]

shit

i did that

[civic bear]

oh yeah there is 1 melee robot on the bottom on mountain lane at the end. need to kill that one

[boreal magnet]

need to redeploy ranged kps

[tidal sedge]

well im leaving, my advice is to switch to horn s1, and borrow ifrit, place her where eyja, and win

[boreal magnet]

ifrit lane

[orchid talon]

God I beat h10-3 but I had to bring in yato

TIL yato s3m3 does 60% of manfreds health bar 💀

[deft badger]

afk till the end

eyja died at 350 xD

[real marten]

Simply survive

[boreal magnet]

mlynar just turn this whole stage into a joke

[deft badger]

lol

[boreal magnet]

my boy

[deft badger]

look at them all go xD

[boreal magnet]

poof xD

[surreal relic]

@polar crane I just gave it a try now and it's even easier than 21

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1121266240770539622.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[polar crane]

it is

Im gonna steal that too

[tidal sedge]

smh imagine having lin

I just ifrit in front of poz. drones all burn

[vernal lion]

you can just leak all the last tree men

[polar crane]

yeah but I like killing them

[tidal sedge]

[polar crane]

steal

[tidal sedge]

you know, I saw a rat irl about a month ago. I cant believe I didnt think of Lin

[polar crane]

you mean anton?

[tidal sedge]

[polar crane]

you dont know mr anton?

codename L9 ratirl

[tidal sedge]

I vaguely remember a username of anton if that is what you mean

[polar crane]

nah that not it

yeah search up ratirl if you have the chance

greatest comedian

[brittle radish]

help me pls

how to deal with 2nd phase H12-4 dazmati?

[glass monolith]

"It is just 1 drone box in chapter 11 annihilation, what can go wrong"

[tidal sedge]

ifrit kills them all

[glass monolith]

Play checkers with your operator placement

[polar crane]

those beyblade kill my fps not my op

[surreal relic]

Look at all those SP batteries for my Lin

[real marten]

Then all you do is put her on auto attacks anyway

[sage osprey]

S5-8 idk how

[polar crane]

show us your roster

[real marten]

For me I just did Defender, Healer, and some ranged dps for each side

[sage osprey]

The team im using

[polar crane]

bring exu and archetto

spawn camp the caster

[real marten]

I think saria and any ranged unit can clear one of the lanes and the other just throw everything else at it

[sage osprey]

Ok

I will try

[cosmic thicket]

wait is this up on global yet

[muted wagon]

this level

[polar crane]

H stage no
idk if that is a h stage or not tho

[cosmic thicket]

tw msgr was asking for H12-4

[tidal sedge]

you need help with it or? if so send roster

[sage osprey]

Thanks guys

[muted wagon]

something like this

[cyan gorge]

Kal would be a better borrow

[tidal sedge]

I would borrow kaltsit or ntrk

and stop maxing e1 please

[cosmic thicket]

are you sure you need 3 medics (not including reed alter, saria, or gummy)

[tidal sedge]

well hes prob just killing the mobs and cycling bait

[muted wagon]

why

what

[tidal sedge]

its more efficient to have perfumer, mulberry, and gummy at e1 lv40-50 and then use those mats on e2ing one of them for example

[cosmic thicket]

doesn't most of the sanity value of a promotion come from the materials/chips themselves

[tidal sedge]

20lvls hardly matter, but e2 does alot

[steep robin]

I need help with this stage, I tried borrowing an Eyja or Silverash but still couldn't do it

[cosmic thicket]

texas alter/yato alter (either s3) work

[polar crane]

texas alter murder that stage

[cosmic thicket]

pozy/goldenglow are also excellent

[tidal sedge]

anyway, I would borrow kaltsit or NTRK s3 for boss, and use reedalt and mostima to kill the mob lanes while you block it for as long as possible

[muted wagon]

what is so strong about ntrk

[cosmic thicket]

s3 does true dmg to units blocked by either her or the sun

[tidal sedge]

she does true dmg on s3 which is good for manfred

[cosmic thicket]

manfred has phys/arts dodge

[polar crane]

e2 frostleaf
im sorry for your loss

[cosmic thicket]

what are you saying that's ultrabased

[steep robin]

Can't find a Texalter with her S3, all I find is her S2

[polar crane]

it not

[cyan gorge]

Check #friend-id

[real marten]

I used apirl for that stage

[cosmic thicket]

a bajillion people have her on s3 yeah

april is good too

[real marten]

5* option

[polar crane]

I brainwash en to use her s2

[tidal sedge]

s2 is better

[cosmic thicket]

wdym s2 is april's main skill

[tidal sedge]

was masta not talking about tex?

[cosmic thicket]

oh

i mean

[polar crane]

ye I talk about texas

[tidal sedge]

april s1 moment

[cosmic thicket]

idk i use s3 more because the stun is too useful

also brainrot moment

[polar crane]

why stun when kill faster

[cosmic thicket]

s2 does damage but we already have enough units that do damage

[tidal sedge]

uhh, not many that do texalt dmg

[real marten]

S2 is direct dps and res decrease s3 is CC utility

The more ops you have the better s3 is imo

[cosmic thicket]

i mean

[real marten]

Burst dps is not hard to come by later on

[cosmic thicket]

she has high damage per second but the ability lasts for like 10 seconds

if im setting up a killzone i'd be doing so with chungus skalter and the like

[real marten]

But an on demand aoe stun lock can be good

[tidal sedge]

ines s3 is better cc imo

[cosmic thicket]

ines s3 is a lot harder to set up and is worse in a single 3x3 area

[tidal sedge]

atk cancel is only better with bad texalt placement or bad operator placement

[real marten]

Ines s3 is just better cantabile s1

[muted wagon]

as a ines user i still cant find any use for her s3

[tidal sedge]

ines s3 is basically 3x3

you have her lv1

[real marten]

Play is lmao

[muted wagon]

whats wrong with lv1

[cyan gorge]

Ines s3 is cracked

just have bigger brain

[real marten]

I'm in the m6 Ines catagory

[cosmic thicket]

it's good the more you actually care about optimizing and stuff

[real marten]

It has high potential

[tidal sedge]

anyway texalt s2 is the best FrD skill for ch13 too. maybe new event will change my skill choices

[real marten]

Texalt s3 has much better potential overall

S2 just does big dps

[tidal sedge]

texalt s3 not doing dmg is the issue

[cosmic thicket]

what

[real marten]

It does a decent amount of damage

Wdym

[cosmic thicket]

doesn't it do a total of like 10k aoe not including her 2nd skill cast

[tidal sedge]

it does like 2.3k arts dps, without res ignore.

[cyan gorge]

How weak is your Tex then

[real marten]

Completely shreds the small enemies and usually Chunks elites and bosses

Of course most bosses are stun immune so

[tidal sedge]

I mean I dont think its a bad skill.
Its just that s2 normally kills the plebs just as well anyway, so I want skill for elites

[real marten]

Looking at texalt purely as a high dps boss killer yes her s2 is going to deal big dps

But in the same sense just deploy surtr

[tidal sedge]

surtr is 70sec away. the issue is elites not bosses

I would still like texalt s3 over s2 if it killed newer elites

but it doesnt

[cosmic thicket]

tbh i just kill elites with chungus skalter

[real marten]

Same

[cosmic thicket]

i'd consider using gav mlynar if i had them

[tidal sedge]

thats cringe lol, havent seen that combo for like months

[real marten]

Why combo młynar just activate skill and watch enemies dissappear

[cosmic thicket]

i mean all it is is cycling nuke skills

[tidal sedge]

someone came here a few days ago asking for help and shared a kyo guide where kyo cycled chalter mlynar together for a "low end squad"

[real marten]

Gav nuke is not even close to młynar nuke

Probably overkill anyway

[cyan gorge]

Sounds like a lot of work when just dropping Yato is an option

[real marten]

I feel like this is the least brain strategy, no wait, little timing, just drop yato and texalt

Smh

[tidal sedge]

thats another thing, I like texalt s2 better than her s3, and yato s2. so I end up using yato s3 for aoe

[real marten]

That being said we all do it

[cosmic thicket]

oh right you actually use yato alter

i've just been benching mine because i think she's cringe

[cyan gorge]

I'd rather spam Yato than spam Tex

[tidal sedge]

I mean I dont have either atm I have to choose between as a support unit

[real marten]

Well texalt s3 is a 3x3 while yato is just a 1 tile line so there's that

[tidal sedge]

well yato is a 1x3, so in most cases its enough

[real marten]

Ifrit lane Yato lane

[cosmic thicket]

honestly idk when i'll feel ready to like, ditch her in normal stages

[real marten]

Also texalt is Arts while yato is mostly physical

[cosmic thicket]

i'll try to beat H stages without them let's see how it goes

[real marten]

Usually doesn't mater but in some cases it do

[tidal sedge]

well, yato s3 just does more dmg regardless tho

idk exact numbers. This is just from using

[real marten]

Meanwhile I still need to get to 12-20 with PLk

[real marten]

depends

[cyan gorge]

Spin 2 win is fun so I'm not stopping anytime soon

[real marten]

Usually only does 9k

At most

[tidal sedge]

hmm, well tbh I didnt know they were so close

[grand ginkgo]

Just borrow Kaltsit

and use yato s3 to kill shit on chokepoint top left

[real marten]

You can't really compare yato and texalt s3s

[tidal sedge]

I mean, ? dmg wise sure, usability wise I can

both hit air, are helidrop, and multi target

[real marten]

Overall usability yes but specifically no

[tidal sedge]

then few ops can be compared

[real marten]

Yes

That's my outlook anyway

I'm the "everyone can be used somewhere, but others prove less useful overall"

I've seen texalt and yato s3 be useful in a lot of different scenarios

Probably because I watch a lot of video of limited gameplay

[tidal sedge]

well, there is also just preference. after I get texalt tomorrow, I prob wont use yato s2 ever

[real marten]

inb4 80 res enemies

[muted wagon]

uh kaltsit died

[real marten]

The thing with yato s2 is that if the enemy doesn't literally have her damage as def they will take a ton of damage since she huts so many times

[tidal sedge]

have monstr fight boss at beggining, then redeploy if it dies. same thing with ntrk

[muted wagon]

but like

the boss at phase 2 kill monster faster than the skill activate

[real marten]

You can stall Manfred on either side with healer+Saira, then deal with the trash enemies individually from Manfred, this may make it easier to deal with

[tidal sedge]

thow a body in front
or use cc

[muted wagon]

omg how do i not think about that

[tidal sedge]

fredman isnt even ranged in p2. so cc is also fine

[real marten]

Or you can do what I do is throw a ton of stall and activate mylar skill multiple times

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tidal sedge]

tbh I like ntrk way better for manfred

[real marten]

Yeah she makes her own body to block him and other ops can actually heal her

Also higher dps

There's also this one pozy strategy that makes use of her anti dodge module

Also lumen can stall him permanently

[tidal sedge]

lol Ive never thought about that

[real marten]

Also double Medic works

idk I like to spew ideas when I comes to strats like this

whatever sticks

[muted wagon]

nuke suck

ok i hate thsi level i give up

[cyan gorge]

You have all the tools to clear

[muted wagon]

i just dont have enough time

[real marten]

Oof

I must say I think the very next stage is where PLknights is going to die

I need like... another defender or something

Idk

[fiery marsh]

You mean for cooking a strategy?

Like you know that in this map that is some reborns who comes straight from the red box in some waves, you can just place a defender + wandering medic (because of necrosis, outside the cannon range obviously) to bait a cannon shot straight in the defender

Manfred itself isnt hard tho, just use a anti Dodge tech (aka true damage / moded pozy or Schwarz)

[real marten]

You can try borrowing a nian, keeping her healed up so she can tank the Canon, then stall Manfred with 2 medics or saria+medic until the his second phase, you may need to sacrifice some bodies. Then continue this strategy until you deal with the trash mobs, then Manfred again

@muted wagon

Use other ops for dps to make sure there's no leaks

[muted wagon]

nah if i borrow nian i cant borrow kaltsit

[real marten]

I know

[real marten]

You stall manfred, slowly killing him as you endlessly stall him with heals

You can do it in the bottom left or the right side

[fierce meteor]

If you had an another specialist as a support,it will be great

[fiery marsh]

Dont Manfred like builds atkspd like crazy and that makes stall him more hard?

[real marten]

Nian works since she has a high HP pool

[fiery marsh]

I am more a fan of bursting him

[real marten]

You can endlessly stall if you have saria And a decent medic

Or just lumen

[fierce meteor]

I think chapter 11 is easier than the 10

[muted wagon]

i think chpater 10 was like the hardes 💀

[fiery marsh]

Moded pozy can solo kill him btw, maybe she is a better borrow than kalsit (If i remember right kalsit doesnt kill him in one cycle)

[fiery marsh]

I agree, maybe Ch 12 with H stages will be harder tho

[fierce meteor]

The mobs with him are only weak against true damage

The boss himself is pretty easy but his buddy's are annoying

[fierce meteor]

I didn't do the H

[cyan gorge]

90% damage reduction but low hp, you can stilll brute force through

[fierce meteor]

Yeah, that's why they are harder than the chapter 11

[stiff drum]

A
Does it not save? I was on Like the last 10 enemies of annihilation and clicked pause
Came back an hour later and I was back on main menu :(

[tidal sedge]

mustve lost connection or something

[versed arrow]

did your phone went to screen saver or something?

[real marten]

Stall strat works here

Least the first half

Been sitting here for a minute now

That warfarin is e1 btw

@muted wagon

Stall out enemies until manfred is last alive, then use the Canon to stun him, burst with yato (or with sliverash)

Then he should be dead

And make sure to bring as many trash ops as bodies to throw at him to stall second phase as long as possible

I only needed this many

For the first half just activate reedalter skill as it comes up, you can put gummy or another Defender behind nian if enemies get past nians block count, make sure to put mudrock last so she takes the canonfire

[stiff drum]

Uwahhhh I finally killed crown slayer

[real marten]

Did shaw do it?

[stiff drum]

I don’t think Shaw mattered

[real marten]

Lmao

[stiff drum]

Sieg did all the work

[real marten]

Nice

[stiff drum]

Whoever said to change to her S2 ur a legend

[real marten]

...did you have her on s1?

[stiff drum]

Yes

[real marten]

Lmao

You defo want her on s2 all the time

Other vanguards are better to generate dp

[stiff drum]

Gotta love the level 6 s1 Seig

[fiery marsh]

Just for comparation, that was my run
The red X is a defender placement for reborn waves, the blue X for a bait during Manfred revive
Pozy skill as soon as Manfred appears, amiya s1 + pito to buy some time for the other activation on Second phase.
Yes, at that time i wanted to use fia because i was building Trust

[real marten]

Aye the pozy strat

Guardmiya does do a good job tanking

[fiery marsh]

Arts Dodge pog

[real marten]

easier if you can feed her 2 kills on s2

[deft badger]

where are the hell stages?

[fiery marsh]

If what a guy told me is right we have to wait 3 hours and 35 minutes

[deft badger]

thats 00am i wanna sleep 😂

[tidal sedge]

im not sleeping tonight

its not my fault vivi virt banner comes at 1AM but I have to pay for it with my sleep schedule

[stiff drum]

Now I get the push tutorial lmao

[sage osprey]

9-10
Idk how to beat those flying tanks

[real marten]

Who do ya have

[real marten]

hm

lemme check the stage myself

[cyan gorge]

Huh funny I just made a 5 op auto for that map

[sage osprey]

Those flying things are so annoying

😭😭

[real marten]

okay so the first solution

[cyan gorge]

Is Ch'en not able to kill them before they fly?

[sage osprey]

You can kill them before they fly?

[cyan gorge]

They aren't immortal when changing phases

[sage osprey]

oh

[real marten]

For the first one that comes out, block and kill it at with the red Pillar, then block with defenders until they stack a bunch (3-4) then kill them with the blue and yellow ones

[sage osprey]

Ok

[real marten]

Second solution, burst them down with suzu and whatever else you have in the tank

The issue is that you probably can't due them having 70 Arts res

[river atlas]

Borrow someone’s mylnar?

[real marten]

also works, but not autoable

though

not a very good auto map

[river atlas]

Is that a stage ppl auto often?

[real marten]

or farm map

[cyan gorge]

This is a device farm map

[real marten]

yeah mlynar works

its an okay farm map

[cyan gorge]

Still the better non-event device farm available

[real marten]

I guess so

[deft badger]

going to watch d.gray-man anyway, still kinder late to do stages xD

[real marten]

I think using the kyo strat is best then

its an easy one

[cyan gorge]

I only know the Fia spawncamp strat

[real marten]

I wonder why

smh

[sage osprey]

Oo wow chalter and blemi below solo'd the left side

The light red

[real marten]

oh right, you knock down the leftmost piller down so the enemies go tp the blue pillar range

[sage osprey]

Chalter op
I wish i had her

[real marten]

lol

best if you use brain before brute forcing everything imo

[fierce meteor]

Is there some synergy with no brain using?

[real marten]

Uh

[glass monolith]

Full AH team

[cyan gorge]

Getting too used to broken ops carrying you develops brainrot and skill issue

[fierce meteor]

Like Ines or yato?

[glass monolith]

Who need Brain when Skadi survives entire JT8-3 fire wave facetanking fireballs, and I need some way to get her killed to have revived Skadi beat Talilah

[cyan gorge]

Ines isn't that braindead especially if you use s3, Yato a bit more so but requires more planning than Tex

[fierce meteor]

I think I have the dumbest team ever

[glass monolith]

Looks like Danbo team when he gives up to e0 some stage

[cyan gorge]

Unraised Cardigan

[fierce meteor]

Too broke for that

[turbid badge]

gnosis is amazing there

but thtan again now u have texas

cc the gargoyles and drop some rocks on them

oh yeah

chalters good here too

basically can solo gargoyle

lane

[vernal lion]

and I thought OOC is the hardest one

[real marten]

Merely drop a -100% redeploy time texalt

[solid dew]

what stage is this
i hope i never see it

[fierce meteor]

I think it's for the 6th floor

[solid dew]

oh thank god, im never going there then

[fierce meteor]

It's pretty easy with lane holder if you have the specialist duo

[crystal cargo]

Any tips?

I’m most likely doomed

[cyan gorge]

Boss does global arts every set amount of hits taken

if you can't outheal, don't point something like Exu or Thorns at the boss or you just die

[crystal cargo]

i have texalter

..........

because of the amount of hits she does

[cyan gorge]

Boss also has like 90 res

[crystal cargo]

everything will die

ok well

guess im dead

[cyan gorge]

This is the kind of boss you need a firm gameplan from the start

[crystal cargo]

i didnt know the node

and i picked it

now im at this boss

[cyan gorge]

Well all you can do is try it anyways

[crystal cargo]

fair

[cyan gorge]

learn the fight then come prepared next time

[crystal cargo]

yeah

hard to predict if you're going to find the right encounter

though

texalter did 0 damage to boss

and i lost

guess im not picking that boss next time

[cyan gorge]

I told you about the res

[crystal cargo]

i forgot to switch to s2

[cyan gorge]

s2 wouldn't have saved you much

[crystal cargo]

yeah

[cyan gorge]

Ideally you want slow but hard hitting physical ops like Kal or Horn

[crystal cargo]

does he stay there the entire time

[cyan gorge]

There's a timer but yeah

[crystal cargo]

oh

honestly i would rather do is3

the boss is easier

[fierce meteor]

Not the best choice

[crystal cargo]

yup

for normal boss shes decent

[fierce meteor]

Yato alter is the best choice

[crystal cargo]

oh ok

[fierce meteor]

I failed because my hold laner died

[vocal leaf]

s3 does a decent damage, especially with those multi tiles bosses

[grand ginkgo]

yato alter doesnt do much to bear normally does she

[vocal leaf]

she does and it’s better if you also use def shreds like pozy and schwarz

i should have a clip somewhere

this is normal difficulty

[fierce meteor]

I'm just an non experimented player

Yato does some good damage

[grand ginkgo]

thats p solid ye

idt she is the best choice i suppose thats what i was saying against

[turbid badge]

best for that boss is Pozy yea

[glass monolith]

This is how "Immortal" fight in RA should be. Not some potato staying in middle of nowhere and breaking AI on root

[turbid badge]

or anything strong powerstrike + aspd

the old hellagur/pallas zapping out of existance

is2 relics go crazy

two tap phantom w archetto

[outer sail]

Just now I learned that full invis (like Ines S2) completely negates the insanity aura from those stupid deep sea flower things.

[tropic valve]

Firewatch moment

[outer sail]

Yeah, actually cracked for that obnoxious IS3 stage. Not that it helps for the elite version, but still.

[fiery marsh]

Btw she would be imune to the half map highmore atkspd debuff?

[outer sail]

I don't think so... But I can test exactly right now ;P

[cosmic thicket]

she can outrange anyway

[fiery marsh]

Is more to know If invisibility makes you imune to aura debuffs or is just aura damage

[cosmic thicket]

idk

[outer sail]

Hmmm, doesn't seem to. But I don't know how long the aura lasts, so I dunno if it just lingers longer than her S2 or what.

The more I experiment with the abyssal hunters the more cracked they seem. Holy crap.

[turbid badge]

cc9 r18 firewatch, plat duo moment

im too used to saying solo sl

[cosmic thicket]

30% damage reduction is no joke

[outer sail]

Definitely want to spark Spalter even if it means I get Ho ho hiya or whatever, who has to be the dumbest character in Arknights history.

[cosmic thicket]

skalter isn't necessary for AH

[turbid badge]

dumbest??

also why spark

she not wven ah

[outer sail]

You're telling me. I was goofing off the other day, and had Andreanna tank Patriots ranged nuke in H7-4. Mind was blown.

[turbid badge]

so can chalter?

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

the damage reduction is too fun

[cosmic thicket]

are you sure chalter can take 3.2k physical damage to the face

[tidal sedge]

No it does not

[outer sail]

Spectre the Unchained? Yes she is... She increases hp% and sp regen for AH...

[tidal sedge]

It ignores invis and camo

[cosmic thicket]

she's not available to spark

wait

[outer sail]

Someone said she would be on Mumu banner

[cosmic thicket]

has it been a year

ik texalter isn't available i might be getting the two mixd up

[turbid badge]

its on mumu yea

i misread

[cosmic thicket]

ok nvm carry on

[turbid badge]

and thought it said skaltee

[tidal sedge]

I heard it ignores invulnerability too from what I heard of folks trying to use Poz typewriter

[cosmic thicket]

both of us misread

[outer sail]

Skalter isn't AH, BUT she does get stronger when boosting AH ;P

Or is she still AH? Does she get the buffs?

[tidal sedge]

Skalter isn't of AH faction

[turbid badge]

shes not ah, she just gets a slight atk boost when seaborne or her is around ah cuz shes hangry

[outer sail]

Not that it matters for her. Just means she's squishy I guess, relatively speaking.

[velvet valve]

need some advice on beating adv 12-20
1.2.these are all of my ops beyond lvl 1
3. only real strat I got so far is that at least till the boss usually kills me nearl irene and mountain can hold the right side

[timid spade]

How does the boss kill you? Does it kill your whole team or just your defender?

[tropic valve]

do you have a berry medic?

ah you have honeyberry

[velvet valve]

on my farthest run cuora ended up dying during the phase 2 AOE
I tried using kal'tsit but mon3r died even earlier

[velvet valve]

underlevel'd honeyberry

[timid spade]

Did you mind the elemental dmg? It's possible cuora died because her def got shredded. If you're able to keep up on elemental dmg, you can just use honeyberry, but if honey can't keep up, you'll need to have 2 defenders to swap between when their def gets shredded

I was able to do it just by swapping cuora for gummy on phase change, then swapping back to cuora once her redeploy time was up

[tropic valve]

my guide is fairly low requirements, but it does use E2 Mulberry, so idk if E1 Honeyberry can substitute, I'm guessing yes: https://youtu.be/z38EaP-0LV8?si=-3Kk0m1-XCOQlVfN

[velvet valve]

hm I see
if that's the wincon then imma just skip on the current event and do it when I got more ops

[tropic valve]

if E1 Honeyberry isn't enough, you can try rotating Defenders

[timid spade]

You just swap cuora for nearl, not much to it tbh. When I did it, I didn't use a single elemental medic

In fact, I lost several times when I tried to borrow ele medics lol

[velvet valve]

if I swap cuora for nearl then I have no clue on how to defend the right side

[tropic valve]

2 healing Defenders and 1 strong DPS are enough for right side

[timid spade]

You have penance for right side, penance + mountain aren't enough?

[velvet valve]

mountain lvl diff
@tropic valve I alrdy posted my roster and I do not have 2 healing defenders + nearl
Imma just skip this event as said previously

[velvet valve]

have not tried penance yet but ik mountain needs support to hold lower right side

[timid spade]

If you just wanna skip that's fine, but you can 100% beat it with what you have I think, you just need to figure out how to free up nearl I think. Or raise gummy to E1 50

[velvet valve]

yeah I am zero'd on LMD

got 10k

freeing up nearl from the right side would fix a lot yes

[tropic valve]

agreed

[timid spade]

Support in what sense? More dmg or healing?

[tropic valve]

Kalt'sit+another blocker should be enough for right side I think?

[velvet valve]

in my runs I needed to use Irene's nuke to bail him out a couple times
so without irene is would be healing so he doesn't get so close to death

[timid spade]

Yeah try using like kal and penance on right side like cirno suggested

[ruby stump]

any advice for clearing annihilation 3? this is the squad i'm using. i sometimes switch out chalter for platinum and noire for gavel but i always start falling apart around 350 kills

https://i.imgur.com/NagMKQh.jpeg

[river atlas]

which one is 3 again

is that the one with the push holes in the top right corner

[timid spade]

Drones + crossbows shooting from the right

[river atlas]

isn't that 2

[timid spade]

I'll go check, but I'm pretty sure that's 3, lungmen downtown

[river atlas]

oh the anni maps are not in order wtf hypergryph

[river atlas]

may want to use a 3rd medic or higher level medics

[timid spade]

Yeah they aren't, as a newbie I was pretty confused at the whole anni 1 2 and 3 thing lol

[river atlas]

actually first of all, can u show what layout you're placing your ops

[ruby stump]

https://i.imgur.com/ok5OHvB.jpeg

the issue im having with chalter down there is that theres a time where a couple drones just fly by her

https://i.imgur.com/PsemG8s.jpeg

[river atlas]

I think you'd get better results moving chalter up above personally

gimme a sec

if it's just specifically that drone you're having using with, then u could try placing thorns on the bottom lane facing upwards and move gummy to where he currently is

[ruby stump]

theres 2 of them (drones)

that fly in that direction, that she doesnt kill

[river atlas]

Something like this

[ruby stump]

i usually have thorns placed there for the defense crushers that spawn at 350, he can get a head start on attacking them before they start approaching

[river atlas]

can move him 1 column to the right

you shouldn't need to do that though, you have gravel

oops I missed lappland

hmmm I'm used to having 1 deployment slot free on the map to trap the crushers between gravel + a defender

(the crusher gets stuck when it has to swap between 2 ops)

[ruby stump]

should i remove lappland?

[ruby stump]

not sure what you mean by this strat xD

[river atlas]

uh i'm trying to get an example picture but this annihiliation is very slow

[ruby stump]

it is lol sorry ; ;

[turbid badge]

ayo

e2 chalter

u can always try lappland bottom

chalter should live with that e2 shining no?

just deploy lappland last

[river atlas]

are u using the skadi in your squad

Dont copy my layout btw, my ops are way overleveled

just wanted to get an example of what I was trying to suggest

[ruby stump]

Nah I’m not using her, not sure where to put her (skadi)

[river atlas]

1. if ur not using skadi for anything u can "cheat" out some more healing with a lancet in the back left corner

2. when the defense crusher reaches a melee operator, you can slap gravel down on top of them, and gravel + the melee operator will take turns juggling the defense crusher's stun, as soon as the crusher stuns one operator, the other operator will block it and by the time it stuns the 2nd operator the first one will unstun

[ruby stump]

Are you saying to put Lapland where my thorns is and vice versa?

[river atlas]

also personally I think swapping exusiai and chalter would get you better results

[ruby stump]

Do you mean the one that wraps around from behind and to the middle?

From the top

[river atlas]

you can do it with all of the defense crushers

[ruby stump]

I’m like questioning my whole layout now, I’m so confused lmao

[river atlas]

just drop gravel whenever a defense crusher approaches and then retreat her when its dead

[ruby stump]

At 350, I usually retreat gummy and around 360-ish, I place gavel where gummy was

[river atlas]

...y tho?

[ruby stump]

Gummy gets stunned I think and dies there if I don’t

But I’ll just keep gummy there I suppose and maybe put gavel right behind thorns for when the crusher approaches there and would usually kill him?

I’ll also try switching exu and chalter

[river atlas]

I have no idea

[tidal sedge]

I think I would move hoshi forward, put lap where cuora is, and bring kroos or may to put behind chalter

[tropic valve]

Lappland silence prevents the Defense Crushers from stunning btw

[tidal sedge]

Or behind shinning rather

[river atlas]

...lappland stuns?

[tropic valve]

my b

[tidal sedge]

Silence

[river atlas]

oh

[tidal sedge]

I would also swap ptilo and shinning

Ptilo*

I actually did basically the exact same setup as what I just said before, just without thorns

I think I had spot where he was

Chalter on top exu on bottom does make more sense tho

[turbid badge]

ngl this was a very fun map

yes i didnt want to deal with the red ones so i just mlynar them

ines amazing at e1

invis + attack range too good

[steep robin]

how do I keep the shield guards alive? the first one always dies and I can't get the secret ending

[ruby stump]

so just swap chalter/exo and shining/ptilo?

[tidal sedge]

youll want chalter s3 range to reach in front of all three ground units in mid and top. Youll prob want shining for top side for whoever is holding top lane

[ruby stump]

also you suggested kroos or may, could i bring platinum instead? i dont have them leveled much atm

[tidal sedge]

platinum is the best aa for anni3 lol

put her on bottom on s2, all the way forward

[ruby stump]

what about exu then?

[turbid badge]

bringing perfumer & borrow horn s2

s1*

[tidal sedge]

here ill get a pic

[ruby stump]

i also have kal'tsit, idk if she would be of use for me here though

[turbid badge]

kals good

her stun can help with the last wave

or help hold bottom

honestly mountain hold bottom is probably better

[ruby stump]

i have her e1 lvl 75 though

[turbid badge]

hell u have bottom and than kal

[turbid badge]

should be easy

[tidal sedge]

this is what I would do

[ruby stump]

i considered bringing kal but i had no idea where to deploy her to have her in range for where i would need mon3tr

[turbid badge]

just borrow Horn

[tidal sedge]

exu behind ptilo if needed

[turbid badge]

this was a setup i used before u can adjust it to ur needs

ethan instead of saria

cuz bind

[ruby stump]

im talking about annihilation xD

[turbid badge]

i used her for slow

oh im talking to skele

[ruby stump]

oh LOL

[turbid badge]

[turbid badge]

have i ever beat it?

or just always died cuz that drone

[ruby stump]

for block, are you saying to just deploy a defender there?

[tidal sedge]

anyone that wont die for free is fine

[ruby stump]

where do you suggest i deploy my thorns?

maybe where lappland is?

[fast basin]

Who are u borrowing?

Chalter?

[ruby stump]

no one, was trying to see if i could clear it on my own

chalter and thorns are my own

[tidal sedge]

prob like this

this would also help chalter with drones too

[fast basin]

Im thinking above plat, lapp is fine there imo

Who is pt btw

[tidal sedge]

ptilo

I just pul lap conservatively cuz idk how much dmg she'l take

[fast basin]

She will take some arts drone hits from there

[tidal sedge]

oh nvmd above ye that would also work fine

[fast basin]

But i think she will survive

[ruby stump]

ok im going to try this!

[tidal sedge]

gravel is nice for drones on top if you have extra space

[turbid badge]

oh darling has plat??

she can just snipe the drones while there sitting at spawn

[tidal sedge]

iirc bottom shouldnt matter at all with plat

[fast basin]

Problem is drones up top

[ruby stump]

yeah i never have issues with drones when i was putting plat at the bottom

and exu at top

[fast basin]

Chen would have a bit of a problem off skill

[ruby stump]

but with chalter bottom, a couple were getting by

[tidal sedge]

with thorns also on top facing down, chalter shouldnt have prob

[turbid badge]

you can always retreat ur marksmen and than get chalter at 340ish to prep for 350

[tidal sedge]

oh well I never ever thought of that for an anni

makes sense

[turbid badge]

than you wouldnt have to mald if any drones leaked

cuz plat + exu and thorns kek

[ruby stump]

https://i.imgur.com/VmjHpeI.jpeg

[turbid badge]

and its honestly fairly easy

[ruby stump]

funny you say that

LOL

[turbid badge]

wtf chalter first

shoulda deployed gravel smh

[ruby stump]

true x.x

[turbid badge]

and myrtle skill up

so u can just retreat both

and get thorns

[ruby stump]

tbh this is completely diff setup than i was doing so i have no idea the deployment order im supposed to go about this lmao

normally i'd deploy myrtle first, then exu where i have chalter

[tidal sedge]

I normally only care about the last unit I deploy, not the exact order

just put hoshi last and it wont matter

to be clear it might in other maps, but not in this arts dmg spam anni unless you have arts tank

[brazen parrot]

What are you guys using to deal with damazti cluster?

[tidal sedge]

?

[brazen parrot]

Ch 12 boss

[tropic valve]

stall with Mulberry + Defender, kill with Schwarz

[deft badger]

h12-1 to much for my brain right now xD

[turbid badge]

i used mulberry

[brazen parrot]

God I wonder what final inferno is like for 12

[brazen parrot]

Thx

[deft badger]

meh i found a 6 op guide xD

will do it tomorrow going to sleep now

[tropic valve]

tbh you can kill with anything, I just like Schwarz a lot

[deft badger]

the thing i was watching is ofc fish-girls again

and they are destroying that "boss"

[ruby stump]

@tidal sedge https://i.imgur.com/J8hQPGs.jpeg

setup atm

[tidal sedge]

looks good 👍

[ruby stump]

ill report back o7

[deft badger]

big hammer dude is going to crush in to ur thorns btw just hope he survives xD

[tidal sedge]

what is chalters purpose if not for hammer

[deft badger]

can't see who is under the pause

[brazen parrot]

I'm not used to being able to block boss and stall lol

[tidal sedge]

only issue I can see happening, is the bomb drones on top side you can prob just remove exu and use gravel if they scare you

[tropic valve]

if your Defender dies you can always swap in another one; generally a cycle of 2 should be enough, if not then 3 definitely enough

depends on the Defender; the higher their DEF, the more times they can shrug off the effects of corrosion

[deft badger]

well i don't see who is under the pause, but that's where u wan't ur thorns normaly since most of them run to that point.. if its not someone who can cleave he has to fire chalters ulty much more times and maybe fail because of timing

[tidal sedge]

if he doesnt place thorns horizontally, thorns wont help chalter with drones

[deft badger]

chalter isn't even needed there

[tidal sedge]

and he also has lap on bottom

[deft badger]

kroos where chalter stands and she will take them down with thorns

[tidal sedge]

you like to argue huh

[ruby stump]

@tidal sedge rip, cuora and lap died and it went downhill from there

[deft badger]

doesn't matter lets see if he leaks

i expect him to leak mid

😄

[tidal sedge]

what happend to cuora?

[ruby stump]

well lapp died first

and with her dead, i guess alot fell on cuora

[deft badger]

are they all e2?

[tidal sedge]

tbh cuora shouldnt be dying

[ruby stump]

no the only e2s are myrtle, chalter and thorns

[tidal sedge]

what lv is plat

[deft badger]

do u have a other sniper?

[ruby stump]

e1 55

exu is e1 60

chalter is e2 20

[tidal sedge]

are your medics underlevel?

[ruby stump]

shining e1 45, ptilo e1 50

[deft badger]

e155 can easy heal that there isn't much dmg

if u don't use some shity ops that don't have def 😄

[tidal sedge]

I mean we can always move lap, but I still dont see how cuora died

[ruby stump]

does everyone need to be max e1

[tidal sedge]

no

[deft badger]

nope if u bring 4 tanks

[ruby stump]

cuora is e1 48

maybe thats why? i have no idea

[tidal sedge]

use gummy where hoshi is , and place hoshi where cuora is

last

I assume, the issue was lap taking all the heals and cuora died right after
?

[vital arrow]

Uh why is thorns up top

[ruby stump]

that sounds about right @tidal sedge

lap was struggling to stay alive

at that point anyway

[deft badger]

remove chalter first place exu where she stands, put thorns where lapp stands facig right, put lapp one tile under where ur thorns was the last time, tank over lap after heli-drops , tank next to thorns, tank bot corner, sniper behind him, ST healer bot, AOE healer top

[vital arrow]

I dont think thorns being top facing down gives much value

[tidal sedge]

whats the problem?

[deft badger]

my words xD

[vital arrow]

His value is range abuse with S3

[ruby stump]

this is what was recommended to me

[vital arrow]

Is your lapp E2?

[deft badger]

thorns where ur lap was facing right side

[ruby stump]

no

[vital arrow]

Well still should work

[ruby stump]

my only e2s are chalter, thorns and myrtle atm

[deft badger]

did u borrow chalter?

[ruby stump]

no, its mine

[tidal sedge]

your main prob is just bottom side, any laneholder that does decent dmg should work. Lap isnt great against those enemies because her skill is arts, shaw s2 also works

[vital arrow]

Oh it's your thorns?

I assume its not M3 then

[ruby stump]

im not borrowing any ops

no masteries

[tidal sedge]

you have any ground units that does high dmg against low def?

[vital arrow]

Idk if non M3 thorns can camp the defense crushers then

Thorns is a good ground op that does high damage against low def

[tidal sedge]

he has chalter

thorns is top

[vital arrow]

Put thorns where cuora is

Facing right

[deft badger]

red tank, green lap, purple sniper (not chalter), black aoe healer, blue ST healer, yellow thorns

[tidal sedge]

this is also a simpler way

[ruby stump]

this is the exact strat i was originally doing

[tidal sedge]

you can just place chalter at 350 to kill crushes

[ruby stump]

thorns was dying to the crusher that wraps around

[vital arrow]

You didnt use chalter?

[ruby stump]

not originally

[vital arrow]

Bruh

[tidal sedge]

just place chalter at top purp at 350
use plat on bottom purple

[ruby stump]

and then @tidal sedge gave me a set up with chalter, and thats what i just tried

[vital arrow]

Whats the point of bringing her if you dont use her skill

Well your sniper setup is fine

[ruby stump]

no, im talking about when i originally came here asking for help

[vital arrow]

Just press chalter S3 when the defense crushers gets in range

[deft badger]

at 300 recall top tank let fat boy pass at 350 and place the tank back forgot to say that 🙂

[ruby stump]

ok so i have people telling me to use chalter and people telling me not to use her lol

[deft badger]

did u borrow her?

[tidal sedge]

no one is telling u not to use her

its just easier if you place her later

[ruby stump]

this one says not to use her

no i did not borrow her

[tidal sedge]

just place chalter at 345

[deft badger]

bring her if u want for later at 350 have her ulty ready for bot

after u are done with drones place her bot remove the other sniper

[ruby stump]

ok ill try that

[deft badger]

her ulty has to be ready at 350 fire when the big dude crashes in to ur tank

before actually don't let the tank die 😄

[tidal sedge]

the timing isnt that tight

just dont forget

[deft badger]

1. white myrtle, 2. purple top sniper, 3. green lap, 4. purple bot sniper, 5. black AOE healer, 6. blue St healer, 7. red bot corner tank, 8 tank or thorns next mid up to u

w8 till 100 remove myrtle place top tank on red have like 100 points before u do...
300 recall top tank, place back at 350 after the hammer boy passes
chalter at 350 after drones are down replace for bot sniper fire ulty on hammer

[ruby stump]

https://i.imgur.com/NLm0AZf.jpeg

[deft badger]

fine now just w8 till 300

[tidal sedge]

hoshi s1

[deft badger]

she will be fine

is there just to block xD

[ruby stump]

i had her on 2 but i saw the extra def on s1 so i picked it lol

[deft badger]

should have placed gummy where hoshi is

if ur thorns dies to the hammer guy at the end prob chalter will kill him

if not just run it again with gummy bot 😄

actually ignor gummy is next to thorns anyway

[ruby stump]

well

the person in that bottom spot is just dying first every time, right at 350 when the crushers and drones spawn

hoshi died first that time

[fast basin]

that spot is deadly cus of arts drone

[deft badger]

to the crusher

or darts?

[fast basin]

i dont think even crusher moved yet

[ruby stump]

the crusher didnt even make it to her yet

[fast basin]

move hoshi 1 tile below

[deft badger]

place hoshi where gummy is and gummy bot

[ruby stump]

it was a combo of the purple drone and the darts

[fast basin]

that spot take 3 arts drones shots

gummy will not survive replacing hoshi in that spot

[ruby stump]

so against the wall?

[fast basin]

yes, thorns should be able to hit enemies still

[deft badger]

gummy should easy survive the 2 red dudes that crash in to her drone hit and dart at 345

on bot

with st healer there and her own heal

who did u borrow btw or are that all ur ops? 😄

[ruby stump]

they're all mine

but its just consistent that i fall apart at 350

no matter what comp or strat ive tried lol

[deft badger]

get ur self a texas s2 borrow her just drop her there at 345

[fast basin]

he doesnt want to borrow

[ruby stump]

if i absolutely have to i will, but i guess im just surprised i can't do it with my own operators

[deft badger]

well u can borrow or yeah try gummy bot

[fast basin]

gummy bot wouldnt work, its too much damage

[deft badger]

i can let u have my texas or if u wanna do with ur dmg dealers take my lumen xD

he will keep them up

[ruby stump]

will the sniper take that damage if i move hoshi to the wall? @fast basin

[deft badger]

one tile lower?

[ruby stump]

yeah

[deft badger]

hoshi would still be first target there and she will die

[fast basin]

they wont if ur sniper kill them first

[deft badger]

because thorns will not be able to hit the guys that crash in to hoshi

[fast basin]

1 tile lower is so much better than dying to 3 drones

[deft badger]

atually nvm he can hit there

[fast basin]

darts shouldnt be a problem for ur exu cus extra def from shining actually does something

[cedar hound]

If drone a problem, swap plat and exu placement
Plat range can spawnkill drone

[deft badger]

u can even remove the tank at 350 if u bring a other tank with u then just w8 till drones are down bring tank back

[fast basin]

thats just bad placement if u do that

[deft badger]

did watch a video now, ok u can recall hoshi right at 350
u need a gravel or anything that can hold for 10sec, 1block then bring hoshi back

she will be 10sec away from usable when the first add hits there gravel would be able to hold till hoshi is up again

[cyan gorge]

Bruh H12-1 is cringe

[ruby stump]

what exactly do i want gravel to block?

so i know to look out for it

[deft badger]

last add dies at 349 bot, after that is a pause

u can recall hoshi insta after that add is down

[crisp bolt]

are we talking about anni 3?

[deft badger]

one of them walks up
just block him with gravel at that point hoshi will be ready in 10sec just replace after he is down

[crisp bolt]

blocking the big guy?

oh that guy

[ruby stump]

ok i can do that

[fast basin]

why would you replace hoshi for gravel just to put her back in anyway

its just bad placement

[deft badger]

his hoshi dies at around 350 from drones because she is in range

[fast basin]

the only time u use gravel is as emergency block/ to bait drone bombs

if hoshi is dead, its just bad placement, do better

[deft badger]

pls just do it...

hoshi will not die and will be ready to continue holding ur bot after that...

[fast basin]

ofc she will not die, you retreated her

wat u on about

[deft badger]

she dies when they spawn, they spawn at 350

he leaks there then so recall her before they spawn

[fast basin]

then thats just bad placement

[deft badger]

she will be ready again to guard it

[fast basin]

do better placement

she will not die then

wtfart

[deft badger]

he can just move her one tile lower and see if she gets hit

if she does she dies

2nd can the healer keep up the healing since darts will hit exu, hoshi, thorns

that's why i wanted gummy there in the first place crushers will be on thorns, gummy can sustain her self while the ST healer has focus on thorns

3rd even if hoshi doesn't get hit, healer can heal the 3 of them while taking dart dmg, soon as the crusher runs in to throns someone dies

[vocal cave]

any help with 12-20 adverse 😭 i can not clear for the life of me

[deft badger]

add skalter and enjoy 😄

[gentle finch]

😭

[trail spear]

Errrr how do I beat this when the rat king spawns he murks my whole setup 😢

[ruby stump]

DID IT

https://i.imgur.com/f10fqvH.png

i had hoshi bot against the wall

[deft badger]

with remove hoshi place gravel bring hoshi back?

[full finch]

the sand shield gives him +3000 DEF, so use arts damage to remove it

[ruby stump]

removed her at 350 and brought her back

[trail spear]

Yeah I surtred him but it was not enough

[deft badger]

prob she would even get hit there

[full finch]

surtr should solo him

[ruby stump]

thank you so much!

[full finch]

yours must be lacking levels or mastery

just add some help once the shield breaks

[deft badger]

my only worry was is the healer able to heal 3 ops from dart dmg and thorns getting hammer in to his face xD

[ruby stump]

i got spooked cuz another hammer dude stunned hoshi after i placed her and walked behind her

but he circled back to mid

i thought he was gone