strategy

[robust hemlock]

and cheapest 4 block unit is ling

[versed spire]

Noir and turtle

Saria

Hoshi

They are not as expensive as juggernaut

[robust hemlock]

problem here not in mages or smting....it just too stuffy

in fact chap rlly ez

but when u have dp limit....

[versed spire]

Idk enemy leaking

[robust hemlock]

and this impostors reveal so long

its rlly bad

[versed spire]

Destroy that block below

[robust hemlock]

it revealed but before it become attackable thats 3-5 secs

[versed spire]

Reveal faster

Block harder

[glass monolith]

For cheats - Blacknights's sleep don't give a F and sleep even civilians

Her sleep is something else entirely because it give so no shit it can sleep flying fireball in chapter 9

[versed spire]

lmao

[loud heath]

the dubblin fireball?

[robust hemlock]

nah

nah

fr vang

[loud heath]

i just realized how pale Ines is

[robust hemlock]

idk why i pulled her

i dont need her

[versed spire]

Just put mountain below move thorns to right some tank behind him or front that's it should work

[robust hemlock]

just for fact maybe

nothing more

[loud heath]

she's going to get a 24op L2D skin (cope)

[robust hemlock]

never gonna use them

[versed spire]

Borrow?

[loud heath]

holy based

[versed spire]

Put someone else with self sustain

[robust hemlock]

i know only this furry and furry sa with s2 lol

[fierce hawk]

Ines is so good

Wasted 50 pulls for her fk

[robust hemlock]

and im not gonna fall that down with using them

[versed spire]

Put laneholder and saria behind to heal idk what else

Or silence and use drone

[robust hemlock]

dont need saria lol

my strategy not in this shit

[versed spire]

Laneholder might die idk what are your lvls

Ok

[robust hemlock]

man....

here i used ling just cz of fact of cheap 4 blocks

[versed spire]

Right...

[robust hemlock]

and all heal from scalter

[versed spire]

And dragon died?

[robust hemlock]

nah

4 blocks not enough

[versed spire]

Sure🗿

[robust hemlock]

tgey just run away before being revealed

need just more tries

[robust hemlock]

ez lvl

[robust hemlock]

again 3 vangs in squad....lol

fact here no need so much

cz u anyway have cap

[glass monolith]

Dude what your issue we talking about sleeping civilians

Why you trying to cast sleep on me all the sudden

[robust hemlock]

i dont love thinking i love bruteforcing all this shit

[glass monolith]

There is sleep IRL. There is sleep from Kafka etc. And then there is this abomunation

[robust hemlock]

who boss btw? i scared it can be invisible ultra impostor

[glass monolith]

It is impostor indeed, but game make it VERY clear which one

[loud heath]

wtf

[glass monolith]

Woman literally killed entire Kazemier in FFA arena in CC8 max, what else you expect?

[fierce hawk]

@glass monolith you got a no brain strat for 12-20?

[glass monolith]

I have no strat for 12-20, i just somehow won

[sullen rover]

real

[solar spindle]

12-20 is hard

[glass monolith]

If we had at least 9 deployment slots, it would be easy. with 8 my braid don't compute balancing operators to hold right while not making left die

I died like 4 times at last minute to 3 different reasons

[solar spindle]

if u want no brain 12-20 just wait for eyja alter

[glass monolith]

Once shielded sus came right from left, once TP dude did his thing, once backdoor box sus got pass, once i failed to finish boss off and got nuked from his crap

[robust hemlock]

whos boss?

what he do

[glass monolith]

He is amongus

[robust hemlock]

[solar spindle]

big dmg and alot of element dmg

[robust hemlock]

ultra amongus?

[versed spire]

Whose pant is that

[robust hemlock]

not sure

[fierce hawk]

what lineup???

[robust hemlock]

beanstalks?

[fierce hawk]

no the rewards are limited irrc

so need to cleanse the whole stage before the event ends

[vital arrow]

What rewards

[fierce hawk]

2x ticket thing

3x rewards if you use those tickets iircv

[vital arrow]

Its just 6 mats

[fringe jackal]

The material ticket is locked behind adverse 20

[solar spindle]

@fierce hawk well this is what i did in 12 20 if u want a layout

[fierce hawk]

double guards on the left hmmmmmmmmmm

[versed spire]

Boss literally does nothing

[fierce hawk]

that looks like a very promising lineup indeed

[versed spire]

Standing and dying

[fierce hawk]

and

I have all of those ops

god bless me

[solar spindle]

👌

my saria died near the end bcus shes not s1m3 yet

fucking

hell

[fierce hawk]

what skill did you use for kal?

skill 3?

[solar spindle]

s2

[fierce hawk]

oh

ok ok ill try thanks!

[crystal junco]

How do you deal with the 2nd drone wave in 12-19?

[solar spindle]

exu

[glass monolith]

Starts as SUPER SUS civilian. When HP drops to X summons copy (start as SUS). HP shared but gains +X% damage reduction each time he get copy.
Can't be damaged if he or any of copies are not revealed.
Apply corossion (Permanently reduce DEF by 100 each time it fills) elemental damage.
Sometimes he and each clone use ranged attack.
Turns into Skalter doll on death KEKW
In phase 2 has nuke skill which makes every operator take damage, to themself and 4 adjusted tiles, and summons drone thingy which does 250 corrosion every 2 second (Drone bleed out in like 15 seconds)
When drops to half HP in phase 2 insta kill operator (prioritizes operators with nothing in 4 adjusted tiles) and remove them for rest of stage

[fierce hawk]

exu

or

reed alter

reed alter works best though

[solar spindle]

like exu and saria is afking that map

[crystal junco]

I don't have reed alter M3

[fierce hawk]

since it can damage the carrier upon kaboom

[crystal junco]

Can I see the placement?

[solar spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ySmTe5J-k&t=137s

[crystal junco]

Damn

I was trying to not use guides

[glass monolith]

Then don't

We have 2 week of infinite sanity shield till first win

[crystal junco]

Guess I'm outta here, thanks everyone then

[solar spindle]

ngl ines mlynar also good combo for drones

[robust hemlock]

oh this clones...

and dp again limit

cant use even gg

[solar spindle]

man the dp limit is annoying

[glass monolith]

Those 2 boxes are free to kill

[solar spindle]

wait

u just remind me

lol

i didnt see that 2 box

wtf

[glass monolith]

I see them all because first thing i do after seeing one is trying to understand how it will get me killed when it dies

There is like 2.5 stages where boxes here to give you DP, everything else is box open 5 more patch for enemies

[robust hemlock]

for what btw

if u can kill without them = u dont need them

[versed spire]

Max dp cap

Did you win

[robust hemlock]

huh? wich checkpoint?

[robust hemlock]

no matter

[glass monolith]

He teleports whereever he fucking feels like

I had cases when he teleport like 1.5 tiles ahead and then turn back because he supposed to take turn and get blocked by same operator

Probably due weird boxing fiesta

[robust hemlock]

lol

btw they have pretty big dmg

for some reason

lol?

ok....where is my aak

[glass monolith]

And then he died to 20 invisible SUS

[robust hemlock]

wtfff

[robust hemlock]

who?

[glass monolith]

Each of this civilians are invisible sus when revealed

[vernal lion]

they are ALL sus

[robust hemlock]

huh?

https://tenor.com/view/miss-kuroitsu-anime-blush-wolf-kun-gif-25108056

[glass monolith]

Yomi finding out enemies are sus 2023 colorized

[robust hemlock]

anyway if i cant redeploy ines = she useless

[robust hemlock]

anyway if u dont see they break my down

not center

[fringe jackal]

Why do the civilians sometimes just walk past my units

after being identified as an enemy unit

[vernal lion]

there's enemy that can let them go through without being blocked by your op

[noble pewter]

if they still havent revealed themselves they can walk past if the instigator enemy is on the field unblocked

[fringe jackal]

oh so there's another enemy? that is letting them go through

[robust hemlock]

omg how weird

she is lagged even in game

[solar spindle]

the 12 19 incident

[fringe jackal]

how did you know what chapter I'm up to

[robust hemlock]

low res unit

[fringe jackal]

oh

[noble pewter]

ya, sometime they hide in corner or somewhere unmoving, n the game sorta spawn them make the civilian walk first or diff path b4 the instigator so u need to mindfully block them

[fringe jackal]

oh fuck, I found it

okay

[solar spindle]

bcus im the one let the mf leak right side

for not notice the mobs makeciv unblockable

[fringe jackal]

damn that's the exact one I'm leaking

sigh

[solar spindle]

i restart stage many time until i figured it out lmao

[fringe jackal]

good thing I asked or I would be stuck for the next four hours

[glass monolith]

Well in Papers Please you first grab rifle and headshot terrorist, and only then you deny pleb papers because he weight 0.1kg more than documents tell you

[solar spindle]

real\

[vernal lion]

damn

[robust hemlock]

what the hell wrong with THIS LVL

[solar spindle]

that stage is reed alter wet dream

[glass monolith]

You arrived to your destination: BRAZIL

[robust hemlock]

why so big dmg from low grade units?

[glass monolith]

Low grade? Everything is elite

[robust hemlock]

WHAT

[vernal lion]

welcome to chap 12

[solar spindle]

smth smth block here

[robust hemlock]

i dont understand why they kill ling dragons....

whats wrong with their dmg

[noble pewter]

u can try prevent the box at bottom be destroyed by sarkaz if camp red bx right, theres only ranged unit being spawned bot so ranged unit on right side is safe alone

then u can easier control the middle

[solar spindle]

triiby asher has S atk so he hit hard

[robust hemlock]

problem not in middle

problem on bot

[vernal lion]

the black hat enemy has 2250 atk, and 1800 atk for lower version

[noble pewter]

yes thats why i say dont let the bx bottom be destroyed then u wont have a bot to worry about its the right side sarkaz mook that destroy the box, the trilby hat n absurdist ignore the box

[robust hemlock]

@vernal lion can u send me your pfp please?

[vernal lion]

sure

[glass monolith]

Normal enemies of chapter 12: Crit on first attack spy, invisible when revealed spy, remove DP on attack archer, clone caster
Elite enemies of chapter 12:
1200 ATK, 1500 DEF shield spy
3 block bully who nukes in 5 tiles on first hit
Civ can't be blocked guy
Summons suicide thingies from chapter 11 drone
"Nothing personal, teleports behind you" guy
"Drone" summoned by boss

[fierce hawk]

@solar spindle thanks! finished 12-20

with you strat

just tweeked it a bit

[solar spindle]

🤝

[vernal lion]

can't believe I just need to bait it with Saria

[naive oar]

wtf is 12-13 adverse

my god

[untold walrus]

I need help for 6-5

[versed spire]

Show map

[loud heath]

it wasnt that hard

[loud heath]

liskarm stage

[versed spire]

You just need one tank and others whatever to dps

[glass monolith]

Defenders for spear dudes, medic for defenders, something to kill everything else

[naive oar]

I AM GOING TO COMMIT UNDEPLOYMENT ON MYSELF

[loud heath]

laneholder + mlynar negs the stage
and you have free ines for invis reveal

[naive oar]

how do i deal with the damn refugee crisis????

i cant kill them until they are done coming out as spies

[glass monolith]

Have any operator reveal them while their AFK on right and then Ines kill them in middle

[untold walrus]

So liskarm, fiammetta, and silence?

[loud heath]

noire corne the civs on spawn

[naive oar]

and those damn rangers killing my ranged ops AND stealing dp

[versed spire]

What you have?

[loud heath]

You cant deploy fiammetta here, she's gonna die unless you do something

[untold walrus]

Alright

[glass monolith]

You techically can deploy something on those 2 middle tiles, but you need to resolve spear guys first

[turbid badge]

ines. fun

havent tried s3 that much

[naive oar]

any tips for adverse 12-13?

[vernal lion]

12-19 AE is such an asshole man

[versed spire]

First tip is to remove penance

[noble pewter]

keep the top n bottom block alive, u can use ur yato s2 to assasinate ppl trying atk the blocks, ines can kill any trilby hat in middle, the rest of ur team solid to hold mid me thinks

[naive oar]

put her in to hold bottom right

right of the box

[versed spire]

Gazillion amount of dp operator for this chapter is

[fierce hawk]

you guys think I should clear all stages on main story including challenges rn? or just farm the mats

[solar spindle]

man chap 12 is anti high cost op

[versed spire]

Make sure to block botton right dp wall

[fringe jackal]

like how hard is h12-4 going to be when I can barely beat the later adverse stages with a full team
when in h12-4 the average bili clear is like a full team and the later adverse stages are like 1-3 opps

[untold walrus]

@versed spire It's taking a lil bit for the images to upload

[fierce hawk]

yeah dont break the other blocks just break the right most

[solar spindle]

why not lol free op

[versed spire]

Clear now since failing doesn't waste sanity

[fierce hawk]

OH NICE

KEK

GONNA SPAM STAGES THEN

[vernal lion]

chap 12 is Saileach main play

smh

[solar spindle]

true

also mountain

🙏

[vernal lion]

it's annoying to see 21 dp cost op can't be deployed tho

[solar spindle]

even worst when the civ and mob is rusing at u

[glass monolith]

My Ceobe costing 20 because Top Op tag duped

[naive oar]

dear god i did it

[solar spindle]

idk what to deploy

[glass monolith]

At least it is consistent WHAT are civilians

Imagine it was randomized?

[solar spindle]

real

[sick halo]

Please no

[fierce hawk]

BRUH

[solar spindle]

hg is evil dont give them idea

[solar spindle]

bruh

[fierce hawk]

i tot it would refund so I just ended when I made a mistake

klasjdklasjdasd

[lethal dragon]

Oh no lost 5 sanity

[solar spindle]

always do pp b4 do actual stage

[glass monolith]

"Don't give them ideas"
But it is literally how their next event works
"YOU WHAT?"

[versed spire]

I meant chapter 12 wth

[solar spindle]

[fierce hawk]

I already finished chapter 12

klajsdlkasjda

so I guess ill farm mats then

[glass monolith]

You mean you already ready for H stages in 166 hours

[solar spindle]

wait until H stage drop

[fierce hawk]

yes

[solar spindle]

man i cant wait to get ass beat in h12 4

[naive oar]

WHAT SADISTIC PERSON MADE ADVERSE 12-14 JUST "NO RANGED FOR YOU IDIOT"

BRUH THATS HALF MY UNITS

[untold walrus]

I failed it but I get the strat

[naive oar]

HOW DO I HEAL

[versed spire]

saria

[naive oar]

WOULD BE NICE IF I HAD HER

[versed spire]

borrow

[naive oar]

AAAAAA

[versed spire]

nearl idk

[naive oar]

that is an option

[naive oar]

dont even have her qwq

[versed spire]

lmfao

[naive oar]

i gotta use my damn e1 gummy

[versed spire]

just borrow then

[naive oar]

am i glad thorns can heal himself atleast

[versed spire]

no mountain?

[naive oar]

nope

got chongyue

who needs help with healing

[fierce hawk]

12-14 didnt have ranged?

[naive oar]

all ranged tiles are blocked

[fierce hawk]

oh right

iirc I just spawn farmed this

lmao

[visual cove]

How to beat 12-17

[versed spire]

few ranged and saria

saria last to bait attacks

[fierce hawk]

thorns + hoshi

or saria also works

[vernal lion]

just figured out,
the blue civilian gives +2 max DP limit
the green civilian gives +5 max DP limit

[naive oar]

it is done

wew

[versed spire]

onward to suffer on next stages

[naive oar]

surely they will be easier clueless

but it must be done

the OP must be gained

Mumu demands it

[versed spire]

ew

[untold wave]

What to do about the spies in 12-19? They keep phasing through all my melee

[versed spire]

you need to kill mob on left upper corner

[untold wave]

Ah

[cinder pike]

I personally don't block them and make sure that they get enough time in an operators range to reveal

[untold wave]

Thanks

[gritty eagle]

wow penance is surprisngly amaziing bait for ch10 for the cannons

and she regens her hsield and every worm creature does like 1 dmg

[cinder pike]

does she regen shield from "Killing" the flying disks of death

[versed spire]

just in case

[novel ocean]

Why surprisingly tho, doesn't she have like 12k hp with max shield stacks

[cinder pike]

also 12-19 is a bitch to do

[untold walrus]

Penance destroys

[gritty eagle]

uh the past few events havent been too nice on her, they do like 2000000000000000 dmg and kill her before she gets her ability

[turbid badge]

i thought it ws the opposite

green +2

[cinder pike]

does she get a barrier for each of the flying things?

[novel ocean]

wait which events
I used her in every event,she still hard carried me

[naive oar]

yes, if they kill themselves on her

[gritty eagle]

oh my god i genuinely cant remember these past few events, probably guiding ahead iirc

[cinder pike]

[novel ocean]

Most likely not, because they kill themselves and it's not Penance who kills them

[naive oar]

oh wait you mean these

the new ones

uhh

i dont know

thought you meant flying enemies in general

[novel ocean]

There was Guiding ahead,Yato alter event and CC

[cinder pike]

anyways exu was pretty decent on those flying summoners

[novel ocean]

Like she shines even in CC,you could put her to protect the right bluebox from the Ursus soldiers

[gritty eagle]

oh CC she was fine, but her ability didnt come into play since her best usage was holding that lane where the casters go into (and activating it didnt really matter much)
Yato Alter event was okay but that event was mainly a sutr + frd + stun to kill rathalos
Guiding Ahead isnt really anything since its an older event from the pre mlynar, texas alter and kyato world

[cinder pike]

because they have big HP pools

[novel ocean]

I mean to be fair,her job is to take care of the small enemies,while you deploy units like texas alter/nearl alter/yato alter to deal with the elites

[gritty eagle]

she's just amazing for these wormy things espcedially since the increase block and do like 1 damage to her barrier

[vernal lion]

imagine if I can't spawncamp the boss
this is just too easy lmao

[novel ocean]

But I guess I may be a bit biased,since she's the most independent laneholder I have(no need for healer like with Thorns or Mountain for example,no need to spend two deployment slots for Kal'tsit)

[cinder pike]

how is 12-20, any tips before I do it

[solar spindle]

quite easy

[novel ocean]

Yeah,and you can also have her s3 almost always on,since it has defensive recovery
Which means she has a ton of shield

[fierce hawk]

ctto: @solar spindle

[cinder pike]

you actually get enough DP for chalter

[sullen rover]

can i sub chalter with aosta

[cinder pike]

[fierce hawk]

yes

more than enough

3 vanguards lmao

1 agent, and flagpipe

[high crest]

Hmm

[fierce hawk]

just make sure to complete the right setup first

then to the left

enemy mobs will go to the right first

[solar spindle]

ines = dp go stonk

[novel ocean]

I'm still on 12-6 or something (haven't got the time yet), but Ig you can stall the boss with elemental healer and hit two bosses at once for more damage?

[naive oar]

bruh these adverse levels are stupidly hard

12-15 really hurts

[vernal lion]

12-20 is not too hard, because of no drone

[fierce hawk]

this is good right? I saw passenger getting in on a meta for is4 (the squid boss)

[vernal lion]

the only issue is the chap 12 mechanism

[solar spindle]

not rlly

all ive said is he just variety

[glass monolith]

Squid is expansion of is3. And screw his boss fight

[fierce hawk]

HAHAHAHAH

there were like 500 squids and it wasnt part of the enemy head count

[naive oar]

any tips for 12-15 adverse? my units are getting ripped apart while i barely tickle the enemies

[cinder pike]

12-17 is pretty cancer

[fierce hawk]

ines gonna shine really hard on that stage since she can farm a lot of dp + imobbilize

[cinder pike]

I bring a strong sniper on the bottom right

and my laneholders on the left can hold with skalter

[solar spindle]

u can spawn kill bottom right

[naive oar]

but who can deal enough damage to the hp buffed enemies without getting killed by them?

[solar spindle]

u have smth like exu

or mlynar?

[naive oar]

i got pozy?

[solar spindle]

hmm maybe try pozy s2

[naive oar]

or might this be the magical time where my ebenholz can shine

[solar spindle]

idk if she have enuf dmg for instigtor

[fierce hawk]

Just don’t use eben haha

[naive oar]

whoops

[fierce hawk]

Atleast not right now before his new module

[naive oar]

already loaded into stage

[fierce hawk]

Eben is pretty bad before his new module

[cinder pike]

you coping into A Res

[fierce hawk]

Wen his new module comes he’ll be part of a new meta I guess

[vernal lion]

yes we did it

[naive oar]

damn i lost before i could even place ebenholz

this map demands so many units in so many places

[fierce hawk]

What are your units btw?

[naive oar]

sec

[solar spindle]

ok pozy 90 sl7 dont have enuf dmg for bot right

just spam yato

ig

[naive oar]

most units are between m1 and m3

[solar spindle]

oh u have inies

that also good

[naive oar]

not sure how to utilize her effectively yet

[fierce hawk]

@naive oar

you can use kal instead of mountain if you dont have it

this is on ae

[naive oar]

hmm

have to improvise with nearl and hoshi too

my hoshi is lv1 and i dont have nearl

[fierce hawk]

you can use blaze instead of hoshi

for nearl use gummy

[naive oar]

will and e1 gummy suffice?

[fierce hawk]

I just put nearl there for extra heal

[fierce hawk]

yes

if not then just use penance

make sure to bring your kirin and ines

use ines to break boxes

[naive oar]

not kirin to break boxes?

[fierce hawk]

and use yato to always kill the enemies that goes here

always

[fierce hawk]

no

use ines for extra dp

if ines is on 15 cost then use yato

[solar spindle]

bruh u have yato

its easy to spawn kill bot right

[naive oar]

i also have a lack of skill

[fierce hawk]

yes HAHAHAH

[solar spindle]

[fierce hawk]

LMAO

[fierce hawk]

this account can take on all stages I guess

[wary wing]

we didnt

Logos used Speech 1000

Dazmatti commited die

[vernal lion]

bruh

[noble pewter]

didnt they say there was now x2 new dazmati instead

[wary wing]

yes

[naive oar]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I ALMOST DID IT

BUT 1 GUY LEAKED

BY A FEW PIXELS

[glass monolith]

Sounds like average 12-20

[naive oar]

DAMN UNBLOCKABLE PEOPLE CAUSE OF THESE PURPLE STAFF GUYS

THIS IS SO STUPID

[sullen rover]

killing them worked for me

[solar spindle]

kil lthem faster

[fierce hawk]

thats why I told you to kill any enemies that goes through this part using yato

[naive oar]

a bit hard to do when she cant fully kill them by herself sometimes

[fierce hawk]

thats where those purple guys walk which you can insta kill using yato s2

[naive oar]

s2 is m1

[solar spindle]

damn that shield guy is hittign hard

[fierce hawk]

mine is m0

[naive oar]

then it must be a lack of skill

phew

another map down

[cinder pike]

congrates

[naive oar]

you know its hard when i have to play on 1x speed

feels weird

[cinder pike]

I think 12-17 is worse tho

[naive oar]

surely it cant be that bad (clueless)

12-16 time

[solar spindle]

not untiil 12 19

[cinder pike]

12-19 was easier tbh

[hasty crane]

12-19 I tried all the ways I can but how tf does this guy keeps getting over them like nothing

[cinder pike]

Exu skill trivalises drones

[solar spindle]

kill the dude on top left

[unkempt lintel]

19 and 20 have fair of shares

19 is "wft lin died from beyblades"
20 in my exp is "omagad so many lanes to cover faaak"

[naive oar]

alright 12-17 time

[hasty crane]

ahh so that's why thanks

[vernal lion]

beat these dudes first, or block them

[solar spindle]

this mf make all civ unblock

[hasty crane]

[solar spindle]

im as clueless as u when i do that map for the first time

"why the fuck this civ cant block, is this some kind of bug"

[naive oar]

bro wtf is that 12-17 opening

damn ball spawners

[vernal lion]

E2 Saria can tank them without issue

[naive oar]

ye, but i want to setup some dp gen early that doesnt just die

[solar spindle]

u can bait them with specialist

[vernal lion]

don't know man

[solar spindle]

also reed alter love that map

[naive oar]

not a bad idea

[vernal lion]

I think Texas alter, Thorns and Saria are enough for this stage,
if not, just add some vg

[naive oar]

wtf arent 2 enough of those flying bastards

[vernal lion]

Thorns kill them without issue

they are 200 def anyway

just big HP

btw, I found out 12-12 is a fun stage fr tho

Idk why is it fun for me

[naive oar]

bro how the fuck

do i do this

i cant set up a single good unit

they all get nuked

cant even get dp

[verbal sparrow]

Skill issue

[solar spindle]

thorns cant kill it faster enuf or smth

[narrow elk]

Is this a good place to ask Team Building related questions?

[solar spindle]

sure

[narrow elk]

Been playing for a few weeks now, still sitting on the guaranteed 5* and wondering what could be the “best” investment.

Done some research and there is heavy preference for Silence and Lappland it seems.

[vernal lion]

12-17 AE btw

[verbal sparrow]

You can first try 12-17 by using silverash, ash, archetto, thorn, sexas, etc. It's 12-19 that is more interesting

[naive oar]

damnit they even killed my damn saria

[solar spindle]

welp

[naive oar]

silence is neat if you need a healer, lappland has a niche that may always come up

[narrow elk]

I just recently got Ptilopsis from a banner and rocking Gavial as my ST Medic.

[solar spindle]

shamare also relevent

shes rlly good debuff

-50% atk -50% def

[narrow elk]

Wow that’s a solid debuffer for sure.

[solar spindle]

but ye i think u dont need her early into the game

these 2 is decent pick

[narrow elk]

What’s the thought on Specter?

[solar spindle]

solid

early game

3 block with e2 and s2 is undying

[narrow elk]

What’s range for early game?

I’m in Chp 3 😂

[solar spindle]

chapter 6 below

[solar spindle]

thats still early lol

[narrow elk]

Really enjoying the game. Used to play Tales of Crestoria and Luminaria (Press F).

[solar spindle]

🙏 i love TD kind of game

[narrow elk]

Still trying to figure out who are the must pull ops. for banners and such.

[naive oar]

phew 12-17 down

[solar spindle]

hmm i dontr rlly know if there any banner that consider "much" pull

[unkempt lintel]

just ask... that will be depend on ur roster... but since early game, u want to pull dps like typhon or exalter

[solar spindle]

maybe for newbie i guess excutor alterr

typhon is decent pick too

[narrow elk]

I’ve been exploiting the 10 pull guarantee on each banner currently. ✅

[solar spindle]

just save tbh

[unkempt lintel]

no pls save ur pulls

i get it its enticing... but yeah better to save and just dump all of pulls in one bannerz rather than to spread it out

[narrow elk]

Noted. I only just did a few pulls using HH certs and got my Ptilopsis.

[glass monolith]

Oh god he pulls Kernel

But congratz regardless, Ptilo is one of ops you want from there

[solar spindle]

oh ptilop is good medic

[narrow elk]

Came out of the Ines banner actually 😂

[solar spindle]

ngl i still use her until now

[unkempt lintel]

oh thats better then

[narrow elk]

Kernel seems like a trap?

[glass monolith]

Hmmm..... Yostar the f

[solar spindle]

yes

[narrow elk]

I knew it!

[solar spindle]

most of the standard bannere is a scam

[glass monolith]

Kernel is scam cubed because you don't gain gold certs

[unkempt lintel]

ngl iwant ptilo also... ive been using perfumer for ages

[narrow elk]

I got Perfumer too right after. I felt bad because she’s going to the side for now.

[naive oar]

im still waiting for when i actually use warfarin.

i somehow have her max pot from randomly pulling her off banner again and again

[narrow elk]

So is there a big 🧠 move for recruiting that the pros all follow? Excluding the super rare Top Op tag. 😅

[glass monolith]

Step 1. Tell you are saving for limited banner
Step 2. Waste it all on some waifu along the way
Repeat

[solar spindle]

my adviced is only pull on the limited banner or solo standard banner (that good)

that literally me

[naive oar]

remember (or look up) tag combinations for those sweet gold certs

[narrow elk]

I mean that’s the gacha way no?

[solar spindle]

i hope mumu take it easy on me or im cry

[naive oar]

thats why you gotta have the limited be a waifu. surely 300 pulls on mumu banner is a great idea

[narrow elk]

Managed to pull Firewhistle out of nowhere in the same round of pulls too.

[unkempt lintel]

only have 50 pulls left for mumu, in terms of orondum....surely she will come home

[glass monolith]

Yea but like, you really really save in this month. Like for months

[naive oar]

i pray for the snek to stay away from us

[solar spindle]

pray my friends

[narrow elk]

So right now it’s all about just hoarding Oro.

[solar spindle]

not very good banner rn

[narrow elk]

Wish there was a way to save more squad setups. Is there like a Google sheets or something out there out of curiosity?

[solar spindle]

4 is not enough?

[naive oar]

eventually you will start just changing singular units depending on maps. i personally have 3 teams and one slot where i just quick select what i need, and atm i only use that

[solar spindle]

ngl i only use 1 squad setup since am lazy to switch

[narrow elk]

Nice. So basically a solid core and then speciality stuff as needed.

[solar spindle]

just change the op depend on situation

[unkempt lintel]

my 4 teams were like... main, random, trust farming and for annihilations... but yeah when need changes its just usually one or two ops

[narrow elk]

Only time I had to really specialize was the damn Aerial Assault.

[naive oar]

used to do the same, until hard maps came along

[solar spindle]

[naive oar]

ch12 adverse really forces me to use all i have

except ebenholz and mostima

they dont do shit

[narrow elk]

So pro-docs what’s the recommended path for a Ch3 player? Right now I’m just building squad, story and running Annhil in Cherno for the Oro.

Most peeps are E1 L20/30

[fierce hawk]

Gm

[fierce hawk]

please dont do it HAHAHA

Mumu aint worth the pulls

Go for typhon

Typhon can literally solo all boss without much effort

[unkempt lintel]

u pull for meta

i pull for simping we are not the same....

but yeah i get u gameplay wise mumu not worth pulling

[fierce hawk]

Yeah

i also had to pull ines hdisunwksks

[solar spindle]

me when i collect all the limited

[fierce hawk]

Even though she aint the best

[fierce hawk]

A shitton of alters are coming up

[latent monolith]

The main downside to pulling mumu is hool

[fierce hawk]

Agreed

[solar spindle]

ye man

[fierce hawk]

Hool is useless outside of is with relics

[solar spindle]

hool is hot but aint cute

[fierce hawk]

Like literally useless but I do agree she is hot

Ines is hotter though ❤️

[solar spindle]

ines is damn thigh

[unkempt lintel]

yeah just continue that... build a squad with e1 l40-50, with r7 skills for atleast handle early stages... and after that if u think u can do fine now, start e2ing ops

[fierce hawk]

Btw if you guys don’t know, use google play emulator then download arknights

[narrow elk]

Guessing ignore side story/intermezzi for now. 😂

[fierce hawk]

Buy packs / anything on the shop that cost irl money and you’ll get a discount (use the google play emulator)

Iirc I got roughly around 10$+ free just from doing jt

[eager gate]

Play the game at whatever pace you want, just build the base for your convenience first

[narrow elk]

Appreciate the guidance and advice.

[eager gate]

If you want to intermezzi with no e2 it's your call go do it its possible

If you want to p6 cement do it

Why do you have to ask how to progress a single player gaym

[fierce hawk]

Is intermezzi even hard? The stages are same with other’s thoughts

[eager gate]

It's just events

[solar spindle]

kinda easy ngl

im sure now with new unit

[narrow elk]

Does it really matter which Annihilation you focus on?

[solar spindle]

SN is easy to roll through

[solar spindle]

obviously the new one

[eager gate]

You can save like 5 sanity per week if you do the best one

[solar spindle]

but rn just do manual anni 3

[eager gate]

Vs the first

[solar spindle]

try to grind more and do anni 4

until u can do it without borrow

so u can farm it weekly

[narrow elk]

Interesting. The DP limiter is tough but fun to work around.

[unkempt lintel]

focus on anni 1 2 and 3 first to up those orondum cap, and then try to clr the rotating anni to inc cap further

[narrow elk]

Hardest part was a wave of firebombers that just nuked everything at the 300 unit mark on Cherno. 🔥

[fierce hawk]

which is?

[eager gate]

Whatever is the newest naturally

[unkempt lintel]

the robot one still the rotating yeah?

[eager gate]

No, it's commercial district

[unkempt lintel]

ahh yeah i remember... the one with rat king

[crisp bolt]

yeah pretty easy one honestly

[solar spindle]

that one is funny

[naive oar]

Too late, i will get that mumu, and spark skalter

[solar spindle]

yoo that based

[robust hemlock]

wich cost?

[glass monolith]

-3 DP on hit, so each can drain up to 9 DP from your ass

And game will spawn them in pairs later

[robust hemlock]

but not max dp?

[glass monolith]

No, But who need 18 DP when 20 is max

[robust hemlock]

meh

[vernal lion]

the normal version is -2 DP

[narrow elk]

Appreciate all the info. Learning a new gacha always comes with a lot of initial questions and input. 🙏

[vernal lion]

you don't know how annoying they are

[robust hemlock]

i know how annoying allready all chapter

im tired of it allready

[crisp bolt]

oh so that's where my dp loss was coming from

[robust hemlock]

sanity loss

[crisp bolt]

you didn't need her anyways

[turbid badge]

I hate this chapter

[robust hemlock]

true

[glass monolith]

On 12-20 AE 2 of those archers come out before first civilians even reach your box

[vernal lion]

I enjoy this chapter, but not the dude with 2250 atk

[robust hemlock]

2250???

[turbid badge]

is that the sword guy

[glass monolith]

Don't you like when you block civilian and out of it climb 1200 ATK, 1500 DEF dude who 1v1s Gladiia?

[crisp bolt]

the 3 block guys?

[robust hemlock]

maybe this one

[turbid badge]

[vernal lion]

3 block guy is still fine because you can kill him without blocking

[turbid badge]

yea

[robust hemlock]

its just bullie

[crisp bolt]

it's funny because I never realized he had an aoe attack

[robust hemlock]

nothing hard

[crisp bolt]

as I watched my ptilo get nuked

[robust hemlock]

and they make around 3 cycles around

should i raise her or nah....idk for what i need her

just for invis reveal?

[crisp bolt]

s2 aspd steal

very nice

[robust hemlock]

and what

u care about enemy aspd?

[crisp bolt]

there's a few cases where I'd like that

[robust hemlock]

only one what i remember that this shitty boss from RA

what i skipped finally without even trying to finish it on any otger ending

or farming others shits

[crisp bolt]

she just has a lot of different things lol

[turbid badge]

my ines e1

[crisp bolt]

she steals atk, steals aspd, invis reveal, bind

[robust hemlock]

better wait for muel

[glass monolith]

I will ofbanner Ines on Swire alter banner

[robust hemlock]

on her maybe they give some rolls

[crisp bolt]

very much a utility op

[sullen rover]

enemy attacks less = your ops die less so yes id like that

[robust hemlock]

i think thats mostly eyja banner

[turbid badge]

yes

[robust hemlock]

but what the hell i should do with downside idk

they just too powerfull

for ling dragons

[sullen rover]

add someone to kill the dudes destroying the crates

[visual cove]

That stage was a pain

[robust hemlock]

fun fact....reed flame destroys them too

from explosions and later from skill

[sullen rover]

then dont use reed flame

or use her s2

[crisp bolt]

if you place blocker for the bottom right, you can catch the block breakers

[glass monolith]

Ah yes, Reed S2, skill known for to destructive capabilities

[turbid badge]

i wiuld so use saria

if she wasnt 21z

[robust hemlock]

[turbid badge]

dp

me no pot 6

[crisp bolt]

just use sail

[turbid badge]

WTF

DALAO

[robust hemlock]

for what

[crisp bolt]

-2 dp cost on next op

[turbid badge]

LITERALY

LIFE CHANGING

[robust hemlock]

aaaand?

[crisp bolt]

that's what I was using to get saria out with 20 dp

[robust hemlock]

i think i need here only more aoe

[crisp bolt]

I put a blocker here

[turbid badge]

enemy bind , froze , slow aspd , slowed

[crisp bolt]

and made sure the bottom crate didn't get destroyed

[turbid badge]

ok lets tru saileach

poggin

[solar spindle]

welp

[robust hemlock]

why the hell i raise her

ukrainian hydra

[sullen rover]

shes not even m6 wym

[glass monolith]

"default S2"
HE IS A WITCH

[solar spindle]

bruh are u hate on vgs or smth

[robust hemlock]

idk for what i should use her

[sullen rover]

wtf i just saw that
cursed

[crisp bolt]

s3 is her main skill

[solar spindle]

i usee s1 tho

[crisp bolt]

s1 works as well if you need more dp

[robust hemlock]

not my fault that my only use is flame with myrtle

[sullen rover]

dp gen fragile stun slow etc

[solar spindle]

ngl tho this also based

[robust hemlock]

ngl?

[solar spindle]

not gonna liee

[crisp bolt]

flametail is nice

[solar spindle]

ye i like flametail

[robust hemlock]

whats rlly scares me that how much guards i have...

[crisp bolt]

I wish I had that many

[solar spindle]

i mean we're playing guardknights after all

[crisp bolt]

thorns is the only 6* guard I have

[solar spindle]

so ur just new then

[crisp bolt]

and I literally just got him yesterday

[solar spindle]

gacha harder my friends

[crisp bolt]

nah, I just roll literally everything other than guards

[vernal lion]

damn, wet dream for aoe dmg

[solar spindle]

lmao

[robust hemlock]

defenders as fact all useless

expect mudrock

[solar spindle]

look at tho mf invis

[visual cove]

hoshi is usful for 12-17

[crisp bolt]

shilling on saria

[solar spindle]

damn io want eunes so bad

[robust hemlock]

and casters....

[solar spindle]

shees so fun to play

[robust hemlock]

in fact i use from them only gg and lin

[crisp bolt]

saria can solo tank the beyblades in 12-17

[solar spindle]

yes

[sullen rover]

why is someone having a yap session in #strategy

[robust hemlock]

ines bugged

she lose her fps

[solar spindle]

ur still stuck 12 17?

[robust hemlock]

and ye idk how tge hell clear it

should change strategy

[vernal lion]

it's just her attack animation tho

[solar spindle]

peep when ling cant solo the stage

[visual cove]

You need to preven the bottom and top from breaking

[sullen rover]

top can break tbh

just need to prevent bottom

[crisp bolt]

just make sure you have enough damage for those checkpoint guys

[vernal lion]

can you just protect the bottom right box and use aoe dmg for middle?
that is like the easiest way tho

[visual cove]

Mylnar shred everything if you funnel them all to center

[robust hemlock]

dmg is ok....but hp...

[crisp bolt]

Ling dragons dying?

[robust hemlock]

ye

tgey cant handle it

[vernal lion]

Ling dragon died to the hat man

[robust hemlock]

wellp i hate libg so she is not even m3

ling and chong are weirds

i want nian

[fierce hawk]

you used 2 healers for dragon?

[robust hemlock]

dragons cant be healed

[crisp bolt]

[fierce hawk]

skalter and perfume

can

[robust hemlock]

not counting skadi

perfume low grade

[fierce hawk]

yeah

but its the best

you can use

[crisp bolt]

perfumer still heals quite a bit at max

[fierce hawk]

its the only one

LMAO

[robust hemlock]

and ange can heal too but she have rlly low regen

[crisp bolt]

almost 100 hp/s on s2

[fierce hawk]

ange heal is non existent

[robust hemlock]

[fierce hawk]

20 hp heal

[vernal lion]

ngl tho, 2250 atk

[north widget]

SA or ines first e2?

[vernal lion]

I don't expect you want to heal your summon

[robust hemlock]

35/sec

[crisp bolt]

I'd probably say SA first. His entire thing is around using his s3

[robust hemlock]

none is my answer

he is cringe looking

[north widget]

what?? i have e2 yalter already i'm choosing between SA,muddy and ines to E2

[robust hemlock]

muddy ofc

[sullen rover]

uh i think you should ignore that guy

[vernal lion]

still depend on your squad, but I recommend Ines because of her utility

[solar spindle]

SA obv

[crisp bolt]

ines already has her utility at e1

[vernal lion]

ines s3 is good tho

[crisp bolt]

true. I'm just recommending SA cause he's actually worthless pre-E2

[solar spindle]

SA when non e2

[sullen rover]

depends on his account tbh

[crisp bolt]

true

[vernal lion]

Ines s3 can do thing like Yato s3

[robust hemlock]

meh

[crisp bolt]

get SA e2 and make yato deploy faster

[robust hemlock]

ines with invisibility....why

[solar spindle]

i mean ines main skkill is s2 anyway

[robust hemlock]

she dont even need this

[sullen rover]

please stop trolling

[solar spindle]

bruh

[vernal lion]

[solar spindle]

ur trollin here

[robust hemlock]

im full serious

[solar spindle]

invis is alwasy good wym doesnt need

[robust hemlock]

how the hell u imagine vang with invisibility? for hellish what

u just put her once and redeploy

[fierce hawk]

ejya alter might be the best pull in the next 6 months, if the new stages are gonna have a lot of elemental damage

[crisp bolt]

she keeps the invis reveal with her talent

[robust hemlock]

she is not a standart vangs and she doesnt need to stay all fight on field

[sullen rover]

dont feed the trolls guys

[solar spindle]

very useful for the current new chapter
espicially the new drones

[robust hemlock]

wich new drones lol

[crisp bolt]

[fierce hawk]

12-20 perhaps

[solar spindle]

uhh

[crisp bolt]

you haven't got there yet

[fierce hawk]

the thing boss summons?

the circular drones are pretty easy to block with some tanks

[solar spindle]

drones in 12 17

[noble pewter]

this was how i did it in case it helps

[fierce hawk]

anybody know when H stages are up?

[weak gazelle]

yes this is good
i love to see this kind of thing
more please

[crisp bolt]

a week after launch

[solar spindle]

H stage gonna be fun

[verbal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MmpwNtyKM

[solar spindle]

🙏

i love ines content

[verbal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqou_azjBZg
this one is even more impressive

[vernal lion]

you forgot that you need brain to play game tho

[north widget]

this is my squad

[soft crystal]

Ill copw with my m6 canta dw

[solar spindle]

SA always

hes just dogshit without e2

[sullen rover]

sa and then mudrock

[solar spindle]

SA > mudroc > ines

[crisp bolt]

I agree with that

[solar spindle]

then maybe module for yato

[noble pewter]

so is it cause she is stealing the enemy atk, so the enemy does no dmg cause it scale on their atk? or is she invisible or sth n take no dmg

[civic bear]

invis

[verbal sparrow]

she's invi

[crisp bolt]

she has invis during s2 duration

[solar spindle]

thats why invis is so good

[crisp bolt]

so the bind + aspd steal makes her kill the thing before it gets to her

[solar spindle]

ines has so many utility

[verbal sparrow]

the bind is more useful than it appears at first

[soft crystal]

Ines bind talent is broken tbh

[verbal sparrow]

because most normal enemies probably die to your operators during the bind

[weak gazelle]

ines+qb tech frfr

[north widget]

sad i can't use my ines it'll take time

[crisp bolt]

cc12 told us qb > mlynar

bind strong

[solar spindle]

i mean after SA u can do either tbh

[north widget]

why is SA dogshit w/o e2

[crisp bolt]

his s1/s2 are bad

[solar spindle]

ah shit

[verbal sparrow]

you have just played for a month right?

[solar spindle]

some1 have that SA gif

[verbal sparrow]

well SA is not the only operator where people only use for S3

[solar spindle]

SA main skill is s3 and it lock behind e2

his s3 is quite good early into the game

[north widget]

i think that makes qiubai better than SA

[crisp bolt]

his invis reveal is locked behind e2 as well (his other utility that isn't as important anymore)

[verbal sparrow]

once you become a vet you can E2 any operator on release date so it's not a long-lasting concern

[solar spindle]

SA sad noise

[vernal lion]

bind is like slow, but instead of decreasing mspd, it turns enemy mspd to 0

[north widget]

i wish i had qiubai instead of SA

[crisp bolt]

SA will carry you through anni 3

[solar spindle]

me too fam

[crisp bolt]

I wish I had either

[verbal sparrow]

eh, as much as I like qiubai, SA's schwing schwing is more universal

[crisp bolt]

though that's on me for not pulling qb banner

[solar spindle]

i rmb back in chapter 5

SA is goated in 5 10

[verbal sparrow]

just that he got powercrept by mlynar. but before mlynar SA was a must-bring

[solar spindle]

ye sadly

[weak gazelle]

sad i didnt have qb
have a feeling she will have absurd mod in the future like exealter one

[north widget]

where can you pull mlynar

[crisp bolt]

yeah now people hating of SA cause he's not mlynar

next standard

[solar spindle]

mlynar just destroy SA in most case

[crisp bolt]

mlynar + blemishine banner

[vernal lion]

POV: You was stucking in 5-3 cm

[solar spindle]

[verbal sparrow]

I use qiubai for either S3 squad with Stainless Suzu Aak (this requires 4 slots in squad)
or S2 in stall strategies

[solar spindle]

the 5 3 hard experienced

[north widget]

how is SA goated

[crisp bolt]

he's large range swing swing

[verbal sparrow]

you swing sword and things die

[solar spindle]

helidrop when u s3m3 him
invis reveal
i think that it for his utility?

[verbal sparrow]

it trivializes most content once you know when the big wave comes

[novel ocean]

Ngl old 6 stars are pretty much the opposite of new ones
Like SA has giant range and invis reveal,Młynar has less range and no reveal but twice damage
Exu deals crazy damage on enemy with 0 def,but she does nothing when the enemy's def is higher than 500
Meanwhile Hoerder deals like 6k per hit with his s3

[verbal sparrow]

later game content adapts to the fact that enemies now have high DEF or RES on average

like even Eyja gets an extra 10 RES shred to keep up

[crisp bolt]

I thought people were still hating on hoederer

[solar spindle]

that when caster died

[crisp bolt]

and that's when non-casters became better arts damage than caster

[solar spindle]

hated him bcus he died to a mob off skill ig

[weak gazelle]

hoerder 6k per hit within 3 sec atk interval
idk, look meh to me

[verbal sparrow]

Rosa shines pretty hard when other snipers fall behind

[solar spindle]

jsut use s2

[crisp bolt]

his slow atk interval is what makes me not want to use him

sure he has 10k hp but 0 def is just

[north widget]

sad. next banner, i'm waiting for exalter and typhon

[glass monolith]

I'm the one who boxes

[solar spindle]

realistically that how crusher are

[crisp bolt]

yeah that's why I don't like crusher archetype

[verbal sparrow]

crusher really requires a pocket warfarin or something to heal

[crisp bolt]

2.5s atk interval with 0 def is just not it for me

[glass monolith]

Pocket damage reduction fiesta

[weak gazelle]

melee with atk interval above 2.5s
idk where they good at

[solar spindle]

[verbal sparrow]

dueling a boss

[wise perch]

man these guys are a mild pain on 12-10

[sullen rover]

prolly used to solo elites with the hp pool stun etc

[solar spindle]

i watch a vid wheree they showed him solo boss

[turbid badge]

Ikr

its so broken

[crisp bolt]

he can solo golems

[sullen rover]

just use a sniper

[north widget]

mlynar is strong but reads newspaper that idle time is a bother

[solar spindle]

isnt his s2 is a better skill no?

[sullen rover]

not really his 0 block taunt comes useful from time to time

[wise perch]

all I can afford are AA snipers
they uh don't do much damage

[verbal sparrow]

very useful. taunting is how you negate mortars and scary ranged killers

[wise perch]

there isn't a single damn civ on that map that isn't sus

[sullen rover]

let me just

[verbal sparrow]

once you have the map knowledge mlynar just kills everything