strategy

[autumn grotto]

hmm alright thx m8

[tidal sedge]

Half way

[crisp bolt]

kal s3 is better imo

helps me deal with some of the tankier enemies

[cyan gorge]

Ngl I like the chap 12 mechanic

Bag flag into Penance gets boring after a while

[full finch]

penans good though

[crisp bolt]

the only thing that annoys me in chapter 12 are those drones

[full finch]

[cyan gorge]

My only gripe is that birdknights is impossible with 4 of my carries being over 20 cost

[full finch]

pluma is 21 dp right

[crisp bolt]

these things were the most annoying thing for me to deal with

[eager gate]

can't you start with cheapies still

[crisp bolt]

pluma is 22 dp

[full finch]

[cyan gorge]

21 is pot 2

[full finch]

wait then p6 should be 20

do you not have p6

[cyan gorge]

Irene is 22, Fia is 29
forget about casters

[crisp bolt]

actually on those crate maps, I found myself using passenger

[eager gate]

just start with cheap birds isn't this ok enough for typical stage beginning

[crisp bolt]

12-17 in particular

[full finch]

what would be cheap liberi though

[eager gate]

Bibeak, Flint

Ely

[full finch]

bibeak and ely would work

[latent anvil]

this thing is despair

[full finch]

greythroat too

[cyan gorge]

Bibeak, Astesia (pot 4), Archetto, Gnosis

[latent anvil]

that thing is actually a horror

[full finch]

using astesia unironically

[crisp bolt]

12-19 and 12-17 is harder than the boss

[eager gate]

Asthesia is ok...

[full finch]

uh

no

[eager gate]

just don't compare her to surt lmao

Yes she is

[full finch]

astesia is not even close to good

or even okay

[crisp bolt]

also I just noticed, the non-elite version of those drones don't show up in enemy info

[eager gate]

that's only if your standard of good is based on the best units of the game, which is fundamentally wrong

[full finch]

I literally have max p6 m3 astesia

[crisp bolt]

[cyan gorge]

Not like my arts options are plentiful with birds

[full finch]

I know she's bad

[eager gate]

Or it's just a skill issue

[full finch]

it's not just her stats either

her skill cycle is super awkward

[eager gate]

it's great

[full finch]

it's terrible

[eager gate]

she has like short af cycle

lots of control

[full finch]

astesia has one of the worst skill cycles I've ever seen

[latent anvil]

[crisp bolt]

gnosis is actually really based in chapter 12

[full finch]

and I mean in practice, not in statistics

[crisp bolt]

my literal carry unit for 90% of the maps

[cyan gorge]

Then you play bird only into a def heavy event and try to not use Astesia

[full finch]

[crisp bolt]

my low cost caster at home

[full finch]

my condolences

[fathom gust]

12-20 difficulty iuncreased by a huge amount bc of enemy attacking road block

[crisp bolt]

yeah birds have almost nothing in terms of blocking

my strategy for that was actually really easy

I just used yato and deleted the road block attacking enemies

while stalling the boss

[fathom gust]

I had to use ling to stall the boss going to the road block

[cyan gorge]

Funnily enough, Astesia has the second highest def of all birds

[full finch]

isn't it like 470 def or so
+80% on S2

[eager gate]

Not Pluma?

[crisp bolt]

I stalled boss with hoshi, cleared out the enemies spawning on right

[full finch]

pluma is 477 at max

[eager gate]

Arsonbird

[fathom gust]

arts guard are tanks its no surprise, look at amiya, surtr, mousee

[full finch]

yeah firewhistle

[crisp bolt]

used monst3r to delete boss phase 1

[full finch]

she's got 500+

[crisp bolt]

and then nuked the wave of enemies that spawned left

[cyan gorge]

Max Firewhistle (no talent) is 618 def

[full finch]

yeah

astesia has more with skill though

[crisp bolt]

shame firewhistle doesn't have module yet

[eager gate]

it's kinda ehh anyway

[crisp bolt]

but for that niche it would unironically be useful

[full finch]

firewhistle is pretty meh yeah

would be nice to see if her module made her distinctly better

[eager gate]

May be, I'm not too familiar with birds only

[full finch]

instead of getting an ultra generic module like most 4/5⭐

[cyan gorge]

The fact her s2 works while blocking is actually a godsend

[crisp bolt]

firewhistle is the only 3 block bird

[fathom gust]

do you guys use amiya for tanking?

[full finch]

it doesn't stack though

[crisp bolt]

I did use guardmiya in a stage or two but not really worth it

[full finch]

I used guardmiya for arts tanking like twice and that's it

[eager gate]

aren't some of the most unique mods on 45*

[full finch]

6⭐ modules are almost always more interesting

[eager gate]

Leizi's a 5*

[full finch]

leizi is an extreme rarity

[cyan gorge]

4* mods are really just stat boots

[full finch]

HG making a 5⭐ caster good challenge (impossible)

[eager gate]

Cutter Ethan are 4*

Amiya 5*

[full finch]

amiya is still meh with module

[tidal sedge]

MOTHERFUCK

[full finch]

100sp/120sp skill costs suck ass

[cyan gorge]

Why is Mud in the corner

[tidal sedge]

I was doing so goood

[cyan gorge]

put her on main

[full finch]

mud is better left

why is mlynar there though

he needs to be in the middle to kill stuff

[tidal sedge]

Oh

Sooo switch him and kal?

[full finch]

I'd pull back towards the blue boxes

[crisp bolt]

trying to nuke rat king at spawn

[tidal sedge]

Ye

Thing is Kal takes two deploy spots...

[full finch]

do you know how to deal with rat king btw

red ability targets highest HP and blue ability targets lowest

[tidal sedge]

I was gonna helidrop texalater near his spawn

And nuke his furry ass there

[full finch]

you need mlynar center to kill defenders and bulldozers

[tidal sedge]

If i can even get to that stage

Ok

[full finch]

rat king spawns at 350 iirc

[tidal sedge]

Ill put Kal where he was then

Oh so i was close

Lemme try again with a different placement

[full finch]

and also

mlynar isn't very effective on rat king

probably still work but like

oh ig you had eyja there

the sand shield gives +3000 DEF

[cyan gorge]

That’s not okay

[full finch]

ranged units are bad anyway

[cyan gorge]

I can't Gnosis cheese

[full finch]

I barely use ranged units anyway lol

I'm catching up in chapter 11 and I encountered a stage with a caster/sniper ban

[crisp bolt]

that one is the worst if you don't have good lane holders

[full finch]

and didn't change my team at all

[crisp bolt]

do you have hellagur?

[cyan gorge]

I wish

[full finch]

hellagur best laneholder fr

[crisp bolt]

that's unfortunate

[cyan gorge]

only bird I don't own

[full finch]

I'd lend you mine but he's S1M3

[crisp bolt]

that map spawns the checkpoint bypassing guys

but for the most part it's corraling all of the enemies into one point

[cyan gorge]

I have to rethink my entire squad

since I almost never use medic defenders or not use snipers

[crisp bolt]

oh yeah I forgot about that other part

[full finch]

saria gaming

[crisp bolt]

those guys you need to block spawn here

the ones that make civs unblockable if not blocked

in my clear I legitimately used pluma + myrtle

[cyan gorge]

guess I'll try to do something with Ethan + Qiubai

[crisp bolt]

and yeah how I did it was with saria + texalter and then made sure to nuke those ashers

would've legitimately been a good stage to have thorns

[cyan gorge]

Easier than I thought

Pluma for left lane, Pallas and Gummy on right

[crisp bolt]

yeah sounds about right

[tidal sedge]

Ok, fuck you Hypergryph...
This is horseshit

[full finch]

wtf a full wipe

was mlynar on cooldown or something

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

did you lv your horn or is she still e1?

E1

My only other e2 Defenders are Coura and Dur-nar

[slow warren]

You should bring more arts dps

[full finch]

more arts DPS and make sure to properly bait rat king's blue skill

[tidal sedge]

...

[full finch]

remember that it's centered on the unit with the lowest HP

should be able to tank it with saria

[slow warren]

If you have surtr, rat king is no issue, she soloes him before he even does anything

[tidal sedge]

No

[full finch]

no surtr

[tidal sedge]

I dont

[slow warren]

That's a bummer

[tidal sedge]

.

I want to do this before i do ch 12
...
cries

[slow warren]

No problems, u can use eyja on bottom right to nuke rat king

[tidal sedge]

cant lappland silence the bullies?

[slow warren]

Bring ceobe

[tidal sedge]

I forgot what it does

[full finch]

does eyja S3 have enough damage to kill rat king?

forgor how much HP he has

[slow warren]

Why do u need to silence bullies? They don't have any abilities

[tidal sedge]

eyja s2 kills rat king there

[tidal sedge]

E1

[slow warren]

I think s3 can kill rat king if it's m3

[full finch]

lemme check

[tidal sedge]

You can just have eyja s2 kill rat king and snipers from botton right

the whole anni

[full finch]

eyja will die to rat king

unless healed

[slow warren]

Yeah e1 should work, bring along a slower and keep activating her s2 whenever bully is in range

[tidal sedge]

yeah you need 1 medic

I have Perfurmer

[turbid badge]

Eyja and skalter s3 can one cycle him soo

[tidal sedge]

No Skalter

[full finch]

oh wait eyja S3 should delete rat king lol

[turbid badge]

eyja + texas and a yato deployment

[full finch]

mf only has 36k eHP

[turbid badge]

can easily kill probably

[full finch]

rat king has 22k HP, 30 RES, and 14k HP barrier

mod1 eyja should clean him up with no problem

[slow warren]

If you're worried about rat king, I see you have texalter. She does arts damage too

[tidal sedge]

Rat King alone i can probably do easily its the six dozers that follow that are an issue

[turbid badge]

thatsvwhy u have mwynae

also do u use gnosis skill?

[full finch]

mlynar moment

[turbid badge]

his freeze works too

[tidal sedge]

Doesnt help when hes ko'd

[slow warren]

Isn't his mylnar E1?

[turbid badge]

whatt

where u place

[tidal sedge]

That last attempt was right in the middle lane

[tidal sedge]

Borrowing a friends

might as well place vgs top left

[turbid badge]

how does he die?

from rat king orr

bc in ur clear i can still see him

[tidal sedge]

Might have...there was a lot of bs on on my screen

[turbid badge]

ah

[turbid badge]

Just kill faster

[slow warren]

Hmmm, if u r going to use mylnar, you definitely need a slower or other cc

[turbid badge]

save Mlynar skill for bullies

[turbid badge]

Ye he has gnosis

CC is fine

Just need to kill ratking faster

eyja s3 + texas it is

he also has texas s3

for stuns

[tidal sedge]

Oh...i was usinh S2

[turbid badge]

i think s3 will be better on this map

[tidal sedge]

Ill switch that

[turbid badge]

just cuz drones

[tidal sedge]

👍

[turbid badge]

and Bullies

[slow warren]

He probably needs to print like 200 dp before he retreats his vanguard just in case

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

I did that

[turbid badge]

i like yato s3 here

but could just be me

cuz it can hit air

[tidal sedge]

Thats what im using

[turbid badge]

and chases bullies

nice

[tidal sedge]

I think i have i have it M1

[tidal sedge]

are the drones dying from yato and texalt s3?

Yato definitely

ok

[slow warren]

M1 against bullies? I don't think that's going to cut it, unless u want to spam it more, which u need even more dp

[full finch]

bulldozers have either 1000 or 1200 DEF

I'll check

[tidal sedge]

gnosis, texalt, and monstr, should do fine against bullies until mlynar skill no?

[full finch]

it's 1000

[tidal sedge]

Which Kal skill?

[tidal sedge]

3

Ok

Idk who said 2 was better here

[slow warren]

Nah, bullies already take up 3 block

S2 don't do anything to solve that

[full finch]

S2 hits 3 targets

[tidal sedge]

it is better for laneholding but bullies have to much def

[full finch]

iirc kal S2 hits for ~2400

[tidal sedge]

Well looks like monst3er gonna get fed tonight

[full finch]

but yeah just use S3 if that's what you have

[tidal sedge]

kal s3 avg is like 6k no?
well atk spd too nvmd i dont want to do math

Ngl i love that he gets dissapointed if he doesnt attack amything. He whines if Kal holds it back.

[full finch]

the issue is that they have 25000 HP each and there are at least 4 of them

[tidal sedge]

Theres 6 in the last wave

I think

I wasnt counting

Too busy panicking

[full finch]

lots

[slow warren]

Try to group them up via gnosis

[full finch]

and then mlynar

[slow warren]

Then use mylnar nuke when they come all at once

[tidal sedge]

well in my mind, it goes like this
kal kills 1st one
gnosis stalls and does some dmg
then mlynar

straggler killed by kal

So put Monst3r behind Mlynar?

[tidal sedge]

was monstr dying to bullies btw?

[full finch]

don't forget that there's defenders and war phantoms from bottom left

[tidal sedge]

No, he died to Rat King

[full finch]

along with their accompanying healing drones

[bitter halo]

anyone else stuck on 12-13 adverse

[tidal sedge]

Yeah, i know, was using texalter for them

[tidal sedge]

idk if I would rely on your e1 horn anyway tbh

[crisp bolt]

Which one is 12-13 again?

[crisp bolt]

Oh yeah that one

That one is a pain

[polar crane]

aak ine so she stop killing that box

[cyan gorge]

I struggled until I didn't break the boxes and let Gnosis, Reedic, Horn kill everything

[crisp bolt]

Just need to make sure you have someone at the bottom right box because those box killing guys spawn

Other than that it was a matter of just deleting the waves of enemies

Had a sketchy moment towards the end though because top left box broke

[tidal sedge]

Next run set up

[crisp bolt]

Ngl, I used fiammetta s3 to carry me through that anni

[tidal sedge]

Wait i need to switch Kal to S3

[slow warren]

What's platinum there for? Drones?

[tidal sedge]

Ye

[slow warren]

Healing drones or?

[verbal sparrow]

rat king? just surtr it

[crisp bolt]

Healing drones

[tidal sedge]

But i migjt switch that to jessica

[tidal sedge]

Bruh

[cyan gorge]

I used Utage

[tidal sedge]

I can only have one borrow

[crisp bolt]

Mudrock can pretty much perma tank the other drones

[tidal sedge]

Ye

[slow warren]

Hmm if you drop the defender hp below half, make sure it's in range of ceobe, she can take care of the drone

[verbal sparrow]

surtr is better at removing shield of rat king iirc

[tidal sedge]

Dur-nar...is helping? Maybe?

[full finch]

not really

dur-nar might work on the defenders though

[tidal sedge]

Hmm

[tidal sedge]

tbh there is so many drones I would use an aoe sniper or somthing I dont think AA sniper can do much

My only other E2 is Coura for defenders

[tidal sedge]

Shirayuki it is then

[crisp bolt]

or use fiammetta strat I'll stop now

[cyan gorge]

You can borrow Fia and use Mud for main, since Fia will kill everything that goes left on her own

[slow warren]

Fia will need her own medic babysitter if u planning to use her

[cyan gorge]

Silence so her drone can be used elsewhere

[tidal sedge]

I think i can do tbe Mlynar strat

[tidal sedge]

Only E1 atm

[cyan gorge]

that's enough

[tidal sedge]

im working on it ok?

[cyan gorge]

Silence drone doesn't gain much with e2 anyways

[tidal sedge]

Mastery for the drone probably

[cyan gorge]

all it does is lowers the sp cost

[tidal sedge]

pretty sure it only changes sp a littel lol

[cyan gorge]

22 > 17 sp

at m3

[slow warren]

I haven't justified raising silence to e2 anyways lol

Maybe for her alter

[tidal sedge]

Silence will become even more sad after eyjalter

[full finch]

silence is really good at M3

[crisp bolt]

Silence is the RL op I'm missing

[slow warren]

Yeah true

[full finch]

the mastery is really important

[crisp bolt]

How will I ever do rhineknights without her

[slow warren]

Don't worry, silence alter even more OP

And welfare unit

[full finch]

silence alter is mid

*on a scale of 6⭐

[tepid merlin]

general content advisor WOULD say that she is mid in general content

[cyan gorge]

All I care about is she is bird and she is an arts source

[tidal sedge]

Once more unto to the breach

So do not drop Uncle until bullies show up?

I dont think when you place him should really matter?

[full finch]

yeah

and you're not using eyja S3?

[tidal sedge]

Oh crap

Ill switch it

tbh I killed rat king with steward and e1 swindler when I did it

but I also had eyjalter s3 to heal the map

[full finch]

"swindler"

[tidal sedge]

Om glad they let you switch skills in the pre mission menu

[crisp bolt]

Kill rat king with Lin

[tidal sedge]

Lmao

That would be funny

[novel pivot]

Just finished new 12-20 cm

The boss does like 0 damage but the trash mobs are

[tidal sedge]

the dudes that tp on the left are bulsht

[crisp bolt]

Yeah those are fun

[novel pivot]

I just yat2 them

[crisp bolt]

I used gnosis

[novel pivot]

Blaze and honeyberry to facetank boss

[crisp bolt]

Can't teleport if you can't attack

[novel pivot]

Its awfully convenient that all the tp mobs are in a 3x3 range of a tile

would be a shame if Torrential Sword Rain

This is like the only stage i found an actual use for hellagur

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/942010737935675432.png?size=48

[crisp bolt]

I was joking you can use hellagur on the ranged ban map to kill the tp mobs

[novel pivot]

Which map is that agen

12-14?

[crisp bolt]

12-14

[novel pivot]

I didnt even notice they were there

they just died instantly

Blaze and saria type beat

[crisp bolt]

Yeah, I lacked melee tile DPS units outside executors

That's why the game gave me thorns instead of ines

[novel pivot]

April was also pretty useful against the seed of decay spawners

the one time i unbench april

[crisp bolt]

Damn I forgot april would be useful for that. I also got her from failing the cement roll

[novel pivot]

camouflage moment

[crisp bolt]

I'm really cursed luck

You don't want to know the cursed strats I've used

[novel pivot]

Bringing the two executor overlords in this ch is just free win

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1058048947794489444.png?size=48

[loud heath]

how to beat this stage

[crisp bolt]

Break the crate in bottom right

[loud heath]

thanks

[crisp bolt]

Use it to block the dudes

[novel pivot]

penance and mudrock users in ch 12 waiting for the civilians to walk into the blue box

[crisp bolt]

Watch out cause arts damage guys hurt

[loud heath]

so true, my only good laneholders are mud and penance

[crisp bolt]

But yeah the crate gives you a melee tile to kill those civ unblockable guys

[novel pivot]

Mountain users rn:

11 dp

Regen

2 block

[crisp bolt]

That's why I struggled in 12-14 a bit

My laneholders are mudrock and kal

[novel pivot]

Kalstit being a summoner also goofy asf in this ch

29 dp but split into 10 and 19

[loud heath]

mizuki solo the left lane on 12-14 for me

[crisp bolt]

Yeah kal is really useful in this

[novel pivot]

Despite horn getting a skin this chapter

I barely used her

[verbal sparrow]

the surprising star in ch12
is archetto

[loud heath]

i would use horn more if it werent for the dp cap

[verbal sparrow]

she murders the splitcasters

[crisp bolt]

The surprising star is Gnosis

[verbal sparrow]

Gnosis has always been meta

[novel pivot]

Surely this mechanic will never return

[crisp bolt]

Yeah but I forgot how useful his cheap cost would be in this specifically

[novel pivot]

Potentials will never matter majorily

That mf with -2 dp cost

[crisp bolt]

Me bypassing pots with sail

[cyan gorge]

I still like the mechanic, defender spam got too boring

[novel pivot]

using lee in 12-20 is an experience

Everytime a sniper hits someone he just disappears

[crisp bolt]

I'm not going to like the mechanic once H12-4 comes out

[royal delta]

see, I got mountain and mudrock at the same time, and I feel like I got both the best chapter 12 deal, and also the worst chapter 12 deal

[verbal sparrow]

low-DP operations are a nice change of pace.

[novel pivot]

I never even used a juggernaut this ch because of the cap

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1058048947794489444.png?size=48

[crisp bolt]

I used passenger in 12-17

That was the highest dp cost I used all of chapter 12

[novel pivot]

Flagbearer users when the dp cap stays at 20 for more than 1 minute

[tidal sedge]

chalter was my carry b4 ch12
ch12 was ling support unit 80% of the time for me

[novel pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/903376451187920936.png?size=48

[verbal sparrow]

passenger is nice though I switched to Rosa near the end. she just murders the boss

[novel pivot]

Well i guess im out of content again

[royal delta]

silverash costs exactly 20. this is a sign

[crisp bolt]

I literally only used passenger in 12-17 to kill those stupid drones

For the boss I used executor + kal + gnosis

[verbal sparrow]

yes I used silverash this entire chapter. because of the annoying invi enemies

[novel pivot]

Ceoebe 2nd mod is out but no defense scaling is pepega

[crisp bolt]

2nd mod is garbage

[novel pivot]

But more sp must mean more damage right

[verbal sparrow]

must be for the rare S1 enjoyer

[tidal sedge]

her s3 is truly a motivating concept

why use physical dmg ops when you can just use a caster that does physical?

[slow warren]

All the more reason to raise and use totter

[novel pivot]

m*le operators

[slow warren]

Why not

Most of the males are cool

[novel pivot]

No good stage to farm in ch 12

I'll just waste my 3x on 12-20

[verbal sparrow]

people might laugh but it works when snipers are banned

though granted I rarely seem to remember that myself

[loud heath]

how do you clear this

[tidal sedge]

I kinda just spammed gravel, ines s3, and texalt s3

[loud heath]

forgor about gravel yippee

[turbid badge]

e0 ines

[tidal sedge]

yato would probably do more dmg to the drones than texalt, I just didnt have yato s3 support at the time

[novel pivot]

slap all with yat2

or if you have april, free hits

[loud heath]

dp problem

[novel pivot]

Truly

A ch 12 moment

[turbid badge]

lol just use

s3 yato

[sour pumice]

Could you not just monster this you should have enough dp no? Slap down some long ranged sniper for the aerial

[novel pivot]

also wadafaq

This ch taught me that lumen cant cleanse sarkaz caster bind

It just instantly reapplies

[turbid badge]

lol

video?

[sour pumice]

You also have no snipers I got carried by my snipers this chapter but ig you don’t need if you have thorns

[turbid badge]

im instrestd

[novel pivot]

who me?

[turbid badge]

ye

[novel pivot]

Ogei wait

[soft crystal]

Lin

Or just a strong marksman

[turbid badge]

lin can tank?

all

[soft crystal]

Yeah except the later red ones

[turbid badge]

dont they do 1k phys damage

the red one

yea

[sour pumice]

Heal and module helps

[soft crystal]

My lin took no damage from the first ones

But, honestly it was just blue poison with skalter for me

Basically solo cleared the stage

[sour pumice]

Thorns

[soft crystal]

Thorns can too

Just strong anti air

[sour pumice]

I learned today that archetype does not hit multiple targets

[loud heath]

are the kamikaze drones arts

[tidal sedge]

I am posting this to tell you, that I have no idea

jk I have google translate they do physical

[turbid badge]

i literally said they did physical earlier smh

#strategy message

[turbid badge]

wish i had lin

to ignore them

ines s2 and s3 are pretty fun ive been borrowing cuz chip stage not out

the bind from talent really useful

[novel pivot]

@turbid badge

[tidal sedge]

its really akward how it feels like most enemies just get blocked by a force field at the end of her range

[turbid badge]

lmfao

[novel pivot]

ammo waster

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/942010737935675432.webp?size=48

[tidal sedge]

he didnt even cure it after 8, on blaze too lol

blaze mustve stubbed her toe

FAAAAAACK

if you place mlynar there he cant help your blockers
or facing that way

[novel pivot]

we have the same volume slider

[tidal sedge]

Lol

[turbid badge]

u can silence them right

[tidal sedge]

who

[turbid badge]

chain caster

[tidal sedge]

I was told to put him in the middle...

[tidal sedge]

None are leveled

[turbid badge]

oh refering to thte enemy

anyways what happen

why wasnt kal out

[tidal sedge]

when? was it when you didnt have mud tank left?

[turbid badge]

smhsmh

put mlynar on that tile

facing down

the gated one near OA

the words PA

[tidal sedge]

Bc i never had 2 deployment units

you could also just put him where ely is

[turbid badge]

yea

[tidal sedge]

also put ely in top left

Ok

[tidal sedge]

also, it might not matter here in particular, but you should probably place mountain down further to help tank

Why?

He does fine where he is

because he can take on some of the dmg that SA or eyja would take for free at no cost if you place him after them
like I said it doesnt actually matter here, I just figured I would mention it so you understand the reasoning behind it in case you switch up bottom right

Ahhh

Ok, thats all,i wanted to know the logic

[bitter halo]

Playing cp12 eels like im playing on a new account and every thing hits so hard

[tidal sedge]

Im not sure where kal should be?

[tidal sedge]

could you send me a ss of the empty map plz

that anni isnt open on cn rn

[bitter halo]

is that a new annihilation map

[tidal sedge]

Been around for weeks

Its the current one

I was doing main story

[bitter halo]

[tidal sedge]

So now i want to finish it

[bitter halo]

I don’t think i can remember any maps cuz of auto

[tidal sedge]

Fair lol

I feel im super close

Its just like...the last 100-50 is just pain

[tidal sedge]

I would probably do somthing like this
if mlynar wont die to bullies, then you can place in front of saria instead

Hmmm

[tidal sedge]

this kal placement might actually not be that good because Rat king will target the generators

but it doesnt matter that much overall im pretty sure

Also dont like leaving the left side open

[tidal sedge]

well keep mud there

Then right is exposed...

bro I was just trying to show monstr and mlynar placement XD

Sorry...

also, you could place kal one left of where the K is, if you activate the gens in the correct order I think rat king doesnt hit her at all

or any ranged unit you dont want dying

...
Theres a correct order?

[halcyon adder]

This new boss is interesting

[tidal sedge]

I believe he targets the last activated first

Ive been popping them as they are ready

Lemme try again. Im so close. I just need to clear the last 100

That is the order ive been doing

Thats the part that trips me

the difference between 3-4. and also the difference between 5-6 is the important part

So 6 needs to be last one popped

3 cannot be 4, is main

other than that i guess it doesnt actually matter

I watched a clear of it and... hmm yeah im still not sure how it works honestly
but that tile right of ML on the ss is safest ranged tile

Hmm
Im getting a bit tired so ill leave it alone before i get mad. Thank you guys for the advice, ill keep it in mind for next time

[tidal sedge]

np gl next time

🫡

[unkempt lintel]

guys question....what the best solution to those big flying enemies thats spawn 3 beyblade???? i mean i used lin and can handle normal ones by herself, but when the buffed one spawns, lin got decimated even with healer

[crisp bolt]

I used pozy and had saria tank the beyblades

[cyan gorge]

Yato s3

[crisp bolt]

My yato still is sl7 on s3

[cyan gorge]

mine's m1

[unkempt lintel]

are those beyblades also have that last deploy targeting??? or whos nearer got bombarded???

[crisp bolt]

I'm not sure actually

Also I'm curious if Lin with module can tank beyblades better

[unkempt lintel]

she cant

[crisp bolt]

[unkempt lintel]

at least the red one

the normal one, she can do just fine

[crisp bolt]

I'm going to suffer in h12-4

[unkempt lintel]

thats why im malding... anyway tnx for tips imma try it

[crisp bolt]

Those drones are annoyingly tanky

[unkempt lintel]

i do question for future preferences.... i mean bringng many frd can do the job, but its too much hassle, and the team draft got so compromised

[crisp bolt]

I constantly have to swap my team around. I don't have a comp that can clear every level

[boreal magnet]

pls give me enlightenment, Ange is s3m3 mod y

[crisp bolt]

Is this paradox sim?

[boreal magnet]

yeah angelina paradox

[crisp bolt]

I'd place at right side

[glass monolith]

FUCK 12-20 AND FUCK THOSE ARMORED SUS

I KILLED BOSS BUT I CANT KILL LAST ARMORED SUS

[unkempt lintel]

i think i do that... on right side ange in lowest, then beside her rope, then up in opposite tile of rope is feater... that position and just timing to use ange skill

[crisp bolt]

That's the general strategy

Then you just use gravel when needed to help with skill cycle

[boreal magnet]

ange on bottom right?

[unkempt lintel]

yeah

[boreal magnet]

alright ill make it work

[crisp bolt]

By armored sus are we talking about the tp guys or?

[glass monolith]

15k hp, 1200 atk, 1500 def. Civilian

[crisp bolt]

Ah

[glass monolith]

Surely i talk about teleport behind you not civilian

Who don't even hide and get Lin-ed 5 second into spawning in

[crisp bolt]

I legit forgot they spawned

[glass monolith]

Dude there is legit 8 or so of them on 12-20

[unkempt lintel]

that one stage with forked roads yeah?

[crisp bolt]

That's the boss stage

[glass monolith]

Fork my ass, 4 lanes, boss, DEPLOY LIMIT 8

WHO THE F MAKE IT 8?

[unkempt lintel]

oh right... i dont do 12-20 yeat

[boreal magnet]

right before im gonna try ange bottom right side

[unkempt lintel]

i am still recovering from malding over 12-19... faking ship that spawns beyblades

[crisp bolt]

Yeah 12-19 was worse for me

[boreal magnet]

beyblades

[glass monolith]

H12 will be boss DURING beyblades spam

[royal rose]

What’s the best way to deal with those big Sarkaz that take 3 block?

[crisp bolt]

My strat for 12-20 was simple hold right lane, stall boss for a while

[royal rose]

Also, is it me or is Ines just really weak in Chapter 12?

[crisp bolt]

And then nuke the crate killers once they get revealed

Ines doesn't have her chance to shine that much in chapter 12

[unkempt lintel]

mine was weak coz e1

[crisp bolt]

She's more useful in chapter 13 imo

[royal rose]

So who should I bring? The Flagpipe gang and Ling?

[unkempt lintel]

although i also use canta, and sure she can be defeated by those basic spies

[crisp bolt]

That'll work

[royal rose]

Those basic spies are really strong

[unkempt lintel]

ling can do, or maybe try using pioneers?

[crisp bolt]

You just won't be able to use ling in 12-14

[boreal magnet]

im about to type skill issue and realize i dont have ines

[royal rose]

I mean those big Sarkaz might one-shot Ling or my Medics too

[crisp bolt]

I don't have ines either

The ammo shooting guys?

[royal rose]

Having to play low to the ground with DP costs is difficult as hell

[crisp bolt]

Or the 3 block guy?

[boreal magnet]

Kaltsit

[royal rose]

No, the Absurdist captains

They eat Mont3r alive too

[crisp bolt]

Kal does really well against those

[royal rose]

Also, all the enemies are so damn fast

[crisp bolt]

Just don't place kal right next to monst3r

[boreal magnet]

i always bring defender + healer, always doing fine in Adverse

[crisp bolt]

Activate s3 when they reach monst3r and they're dead

[unkempt lintel]

its funny even with AH squad, they got decimated in 12-19

[crisp bolt]

My 12-19 was so cursed

[boreal magnet]

dev decides to rises up middle finger for ah player

[crisp bolt]

I had to myrtle + sail + saria opener

[royal rose]

What’s the deal with 12-19? I just struggle with 12-7

[unkempt lintel]

beyblades... flying ship

[boreal magnet]

i use this kind of setup for 12-7

[crisp bolt]

2 lanes, same drones, each side spawns those civ unblock guys

My hardest challenge was nuking the unblock guys because they stand at spawn for so long

Luckily yato exists

[royal rose]

Aren’t they stealthed too?

[crisp bolt]

They aren't. But you had to break a crate for the melee tile to kill them

[unkempt lintel]

and when i forgot to break that box when they spawns, the civ will just walk by and then ennnggghh -1 hp

[boreal magnet]

man this chapter stages is just so refreshing and depressing at same time, nice

[crisp bolt]

Basically had to nuke them on spawn

I also had to use the frd to bait the beyblades so they could line up perfectly for pozy

Right in the middle of the map

[glass monolith]

SUKA

[unkempt lintel]

yeah tried that too, but still confused with the targeting mechanics... coz all of them just died

[royal rose]

What’s even going on?

[glass monolith]

Good question, because i have as much idea

[boreal magnet]

some shit eat ur operator and use kagebunshin

[royal rose]

That reminds me; Are Dollkeepers of any use in Chapter 12?

[crisp bolt]

Spalter can slow when she dies I guess?

[glass monolith]

To get you fucked when their dolls attack box diagonally

[unkempt lintel]

dunno.... i use spalter in AH, but i doubt that she being dollkeeper have perks in ch12

[cyan gorge]

I've been using Kaze as a cheap dps

[glass monolith]

And then first enemy on map is armored sus, 1200 ATK, 1500 DEF, have fun

[cyan gorge]

[boreal magnet]

armored sus

[crisp bolt]

I had the benefit of my cursed opener combo

Myrtle -> sail -> saria -> kal

[cyan gorge]

Texas has been the only vg I needed

[crisp bolt]

sail -2 dp clutch real

[cyan gorge]

Also Ines cause trust

[crisp bolt]

I've legitimately never used texas s2

Outside of tutorial

She's been sitting at e1 and neglected

[glass monolith]

I wouldn't trust someone who survive diving head down from Airship

[unkempt lintel]

ngl i do bring ines even when shes only e1 just to have her trust

[inland edge]

Hey will IS2 disappear when IS4 starts?

(just figuring out if I have to start grinding 🥲)

[vital arrow]

No

[latent monolith]

No

It's permanent

[inland edge]

What units can help make the grind easier for IS2? (I have most units)

Any easy openers?

[latent monolith]

Ling thorns

[crisp bolt]

Thorns

[latent monolith]

Schwarz pozy are good picks for the boss stage too

[crisp bolt]

Oh wait I have thorns now. I no longer need to cope thorns start

[latent monolith]

but in general thorns can carry most of (normal) IS2 without much strategy

[cyan gorge]

How tf are you supposed to do 12-18
15 dp start is so cringe

[crisp bolt]

I legitimately forgot. It wasn't too bad

[latent monolith]

ask me a few days later, I'm still in 12-7
42 sanity stages moment

[crisp bolt]

What's the map like again?

[cyan gorge]

Damn Saria just gets blown up before I can even afford a medic

[glass monolith]

I ate boxes and killed shit

[crisp bolt]

Oh yeah break the crates at the top

[cyan gorge]

I did

[crisp bolt]

Also how is your saria dying

[cyan gorge]

s1m1 no mod

[zealous geyser]

nobody is replying to me in help so ill ask here
heidi s1 or s2 better in general?

[crisp bolt]

My saria is also s1m1 but I have mody lvl 2?

[glass monolith]

Why you using heidi in general?

[zealous geyser]

bought the skin

might as well invest

plus i dont have skalter so she’ll do the job fine (probably)

[crisp bolt]

s1 if you're fine dealing with -3 block

[cyan gorge]

I can barely afford to buy one of Saria's mods

[zealous geyser]

so i just use her to buff ranged guys

is s2 bad

[crisp bolt]

Block manipulation has its uses

But pretty sure it's less stats overall

[zealous geyser]

cant wait to buff hoshi with 1 block

then is sora considered better bard

than heidi

[crisp bolt]

No

[zealous geyser]

oh

heidi best 5 star bard?

idek any other bard besides sora and heidi tho

[crisp bolt]

Ngl I don't use either

Skalter is really the only one anyone uses

[zealous geyser]

dont have skalter so thought heidi is just budget skalter

[crisp bolt]

At that point people just don't run bard

[zealous geyser]

feels like waste i bought skin and dont use tho

the heidi skin is just too good

[crisp bolt]

Which is fine to do

I'm not sure how helpful she'll be for you but nothing wrong with building what you like

[cyan gorge]

I figured it out, just had to spend the last of my lmd on Saria mod y

[crisp bolt]

So that's what it was

[royal rose]

Is Mod Y the damage reduction one?

[cyan gorge]

Yeah

[royal rose]

Also, should I be using Blemishine more? I feel like her gimmicks might be useful in Chapter 12

[loud heath]

whats ines' max deployment cost on pot1?

[cyan gorge]

11

[loud heath]

i mean like after you redelpoy and retreat

[royal rose]

Isn’t 11 her initial DP cost which goes up to 20 something?

[cyan gorge]

Oh

just double that

[royal rose]

Not like you really need to redeploy Ines on S2. You can just plop her down somewhere and have her mulch weak enemies, then retreat her when she isn’t needed anymore

[cyan gorge]

I've been using s3 more in chap 12 stages so far

[royal rose]

S3 needs a lot of planning to get the most out of it though (IMO)

[cyan gorge]

That's why I like it

[royal rose]

You basically need to know the enemies’ paths in advance before dropping down Ines

Does her Talent 2 work with her S2, meaning enemies in the expanded range also lose Stealth?

[tidal sedge]

yes

[cyan gorge]

Yes

[tidal sedge]

not really, just place her down somewhere where slow would be useful

[royal rose]

Isn’t the point of S3 to redeploy her every time the skill runs out to drag the knife across the stage for strategic rooting?

[cyan gorge]

The slow works on the unrevealed civis too

[tidal sedge]

ppl seem to forget that s3 is a 3x3

instead of playing pinball, you can just place her within a tile of an enemy and blade still hits

well actually thats not entirely true nvmd

it doesnt seem to be 3x3 on the other side of ines from where the sword comes from

[glass monolith]

Yes! F this boss!... Also what the F means this "protect something something VIP" shown on this stage before I completed it?

[tidal sedge]

did you let a civilian pass without checking their ID?

thats illeagal

[crisp bolt]

Letting people through the checkpoint without checking them

[glass monolith]

Lucky for me i didn't let any civ pass and just killed them because it is not war crime if nobody alive to report it

[crisp bolt]

Well luckily for you

The Geneva Convention doesn't exist in Terra

[latent monolith]

Just use pink radar girl to reveal civs

[glass monolith]

Seaborn ate Geneva

[crisp bolt]

I used rat to reveal them

[tidal sedge]

ling every stage for me

[glass monolith]

Good luck with Ling on 12-20

"DP? What DP? Who said you having DP for next 3 minutes?"

[crisp bolt]

Good luck using ling on 12-14

[tidal sedge]

i beat 12-20 with ling

[latent monolith]

15 dp limit is 20 is serviceable

[tidal sedge]

i dont even remember 12-14 so

i mustve beaten it first try

[crisp bolt]

ranged tile ban

[fierce hawk]

any setups for 12-20?

dont have thorns

lmao

most setup on yt need thorns

[crisp bolt]

My setup is very bad and shouldn't be repeated

[fierce hawk]

I should have leveled up my ling for this lmao

[tidal sedge]

ah I c, well I had AH at the time so it was probably easier since stage is weak for the sake of lack of medics, etc

[fierce hawk]

instead of kal

[crisp bolt]

I used kal for boss stage

[tidal sedge]

kal is great for ep12 I heard

[crisp bolt]

She's a high cost unit disguised as two low cost units

[tidal sedge]

I just used ling or typhon support unit for every stage because my dps carry was chalter

[crisp bolt]

I used her as my early lane holder in almost every stage

[fierce hawk]

anybody got a guide for farming spots on episode 12?

[crisp bolt]

None of the stages are worth farming

[glass monolith]

Which stages are worth ticketing for extra drop?

[robust hemlock]

a lil strange but ok...

[crisp bolt]

12-7

[robust hemlock]

reed cant heal from explosions only if ally in her range

but ok

[glass monolith]

Reed heals by damage done on ally in range. You expected explosions to spray some healing sause on other end of map?

[foggy grove]

yes

[cyan gorge]

12-19 is kicking my ass
cannot kill those fucking drones

[tidal sedge]

I think 12-19 is hardest stage

[crisp bolt]

It was for me

[tidal sedge]

I definitely restarted that stage the most

[glass monolith]

But have you beat 12-20?

12-19 took me like 3 tries, but I have high ground, bag of copium and Pozy

[cyan gorge]

Fartooth moment

[tropic valve]

wait does Ambriel ID check all civs with skill?

[cyan gorge]

No

[tropic valve]

[glass monolith]

And Goldenglow S3, Gladiia S3, Fia S3 fuck with their attack ranges making them not reveal shit if it works like RA vision

[tidal sedge]

I beat 12-20 with basically ling solo

[glass monolith]

Solo. Against boss who literally bans one of your ops. Okay

[tidal sedge]

i think I had skadi and gladiia deployed

[glass monolith]

Help that one guy asking how to do it Thornless

[cyan gorge]

I'll leave boss stage for tomorrow

[fierce hawk]

12-20 is hard asf lmao

Gonna wait for some yt content for an easy clear

[tropic valve]

I'm making said content rn

[glass monolith]

I'm still surprized my youtube feed is not Kyo's reupload of his CN low rarity clears

[tropic valve]

but need to decide who to put in the squad to make it instructional

[sullen rover]

let me guess a schwarz is all you need in chap 12?

[fierce hawk]

Oh good idea I’ll try this setup if I ever need to do reruns or farm

[glass monolith]

You need rarity abuse

[fierce hawk]

Ping me when you upload ❤️

[royal rose]

Doesn’t Schwarz cost more than 20 DP?

[fierce hawk]

Need an easy clear setup without ling and thorns

Most setup need atleast one of those rn

[sullen rover]

she costs 18 dp iirc??

[royal rose]

This whole DP cap mechanic is honestly more engaging than the Chapter 11 mechanics at least

[cyan gorge]

Nothing impressive, just Pozy being Pozy and broken frd spam

[tropic valve]

no Schwarz costs 20 at pot 1

[glass monolith]

4 lanes, 8 deploy limit, 1 operator gets banned in second phase of boss. Dude i don't know

[fierce hawk]

The chapter 11 mechanic was easy asf lmao

Just put healers and tanks

[tropic valve]

(of course MY schwarz costs 18)

[fierce hawk]

You can add robots for those bans

I think

[glass monolith]

Robot get killed by attack making boss redirect his ban

[fierce hawk]

Saw kyo using robots

[glass monolith]

I don't follow how and why boss sometimes just ignore than he is blocked etc and just does ranged attack on whoever the F he want

[royal rose]

Morgan honestly seems nifty

Since she doesn’t use a deployment slot in Chapter 12

[tropic valve]

yeah but she needs E2 for that talent right

[royal rose]

Right. Forgot

What does HG have against Siege and Glasgow? Every single operator in that faction is either subpar or plain bad

[fierce hawk]

Wouldn’t waste e2 mats tbh just to use her on chapter 12

[royal rose]

Guess I’m feeding my NTRK to the boss then

[fierce hawk]

Fr fr siege got power creeped hard

[tropic valve]

Dagda is good with S1 if Blemishine is deployed trust

[fierce hawk]

Cope

[buoyant stirrup]

So why do some civilians just waddle past several rows of units? Without getting checked. throw up three lines of units And they just walked right to the blue box. Why are these mechanics so poorly explained to the player? Legitimately just looks like a bug

[rough anvil]

There's an enemy that makes them unblockable while that enemy isn't blocked

[cyan gorge]

Check for these guys

[tropic valve]

read what the instigator does

[buoyant stirrup]

I see I see

[cyan gorge]

You just have to either reveal civis earlier with ranged ops or kill these guys asap

[glass monolith]

Or get fucked because get fucked on that one map

Btw stupid clone leaving casters can be silenced to not spawn stupid clones

Found out by accident when brought S3 Ceobe instead S2

[tropic valve]

lappland enjoyers eating well again

[teal meadow]

Okay, honest question: how the FUQ are you supposed to clear 7-18? I tried to follow 12 different "guide" videos on how to clear this stage and literally not a single one of them work

[tropic valve]

what part of 7-18 are you struggling with?

[teal meadow]

every part

[tropic valve]

ok

do you have Schwarz?

[teal meadow]

I manage to kill the boss once but after that its complete chaos

[glass monolith]

Incoming he replaced 90% of units, don't follow exact mine timing making them explode on normal enemies etc etc

[tropic valve]

honestly following mine placements is really annoying when watching guides

easy to forget

[teal meadow]

yes I have schwarz

[buoyant stirrup]

You mean 12-19 Where they hide them on the side to make them more difficult to get at? I feel like the developers have just given us too many strong units and the only way they can think of to make difficult content is just Prevent us from playing the game.

[tropic valve]

excellent

show us what you have, and also what setup you're using for boss phase 1?

[cyan gorge]

Yato s3 hits both tho

[tropic valve]

the key is figuring out how to survive the transition from phase 1 to 2, and also have a solution to Patriot's spear throw

[glass monolith]

Nah, one where casters have like 1200 ATK just because, when final wave is 2 sus civilians 5 tiles away from box and 2 those dudes right after 2 casters who killed everyone

[buoyant stirrup]

Yato needs to kill those Little flying guys

[cyan gorge]

She can do both

[teal meadow]

So the one thing that..uh...worked the "best" so far is this one. I put Myrtle in a corner to gather energy. Siege and Lapland stall the enemies coming from the right while Blaze protects the left exit. Then I put Schwarz + Healer in the right corner, where the boss usually takes a small break, together with two mines to nuke him down

[cyan gorge]

You struggle with this?

[tropic valve]

ok we can definitely work with this

[glass monolith]

You literally press Amiya S3 when boss in range and win

[tropic valve]

after you nuke the boss, you can consider redeploying Schwarz + healer to setup elsewhere

Blaze should pretty much hold everything

other than the boss

[glass monolith]

Just mind that boss phase 2 will have throw spear at further most ranged operator

[tropic valve]

feel like you don't need W and Rosmontis together since they kinda overlap and the boss is stun-immune anyways

maybe replace one with either a support like Suzuran/Ethan, or an immortal like Surtr/Specter

something that isn't mandatory for this but is good to know: upgrading modules is a lot cheaper and a lot more gains than leveling from 60 to 90, for example Schwarz' X module makes her redeploy faster which is really convenient

btw if you have a shifter (Gladiia best) or phalanx caster, those can tank multiple spear throws in phase 2 I believe

[glass monolith]

You aware upgrading module give like +10 ATK while asking for T4/T5 materials, right?

[tropic valve]

although, I think your levels are high enough that with the right setup you shouldn't need to tank any spear throws

[tropic valve]

the +10 ATK is already more cost efficient than levels, I did the calcs

even if the passive is garbage

more specifically, module 1 is always worth more than levels from stat gains alone regardless of passive; levels 2 and 3 give minor stat gains so the passive matters

[teal meadow]

I dont know, I just suck at strategy I guess?

[tropic valve]

are the mortar dudes perhaps killing your ranged ops?

if so, placing a Defender (last in deploy order) to bait them in a corner works well

[teal meadow]

well

nope

second phase of the boss literally just one shots every fuccin unit

[fast basin]

2nd phase is squishier tho, so use ur range advantage to kill him quickly

[tropic valve]

do you have Ethan, Suzuran, or another source of slow/bind?

2nd phase doesn't hit as hard as 1st phase in melee range, so you can actually somewhat tank it with a blocker, but a slower/binder could allow you to simply kill him without blocking at all

[teal meadow]

I do have Suzuran

[tropic valve]

in that case you can try using Suzuran S3 to keep Patriot in place during S2 while Amiya/Schwarz/whoever nukes

make sure Suzuran doesn't die to a spear throw

[teal meadow]

Oh my. Suzuran really helped me out! I finally beat it

thank you

[tropic valve]

nice!

yeah Schwarz + Suzuran is my solution to like, almost every problem

enjoy chapter 8

[vivid trail]

Ok I’ve been at this all night and it’s pissing me off the units that spawn like every 5 secs before I can get another unit out for the love of god please someone help me thanks

[versed spire]

Show roster

[glass monolith]

Stage name plz i have no idea which one of MN stage that is

wait it is not MN.... WHAT IS THAT STAGE?

[versed spire]

MN-5

[versed spire]

Hello?

[vivid trail]

Yeah I’m here

[versed spire]

Show what you have built?

[vivid trail]

This what I usually run

Or most of it

[versed spire]

No e2?

[vivid trail]

What’s e2

[versed spire]

Evolution 2

Anyway

[fringe jackal]

when a unit has this under them. it's a big power boost on units especially six stars but expensive. once you have an e2 unit you are able to borrow friend units for a big power level boost

[glass monolith]

Vanguard on left, vanguard on right. When big pile of enemy comes mid drop sniper to kill one of corner drones for attack speed boost which will allow to clear enemies

[vivid trail]

No only 1

Atm

[versed spire]

Idk how fast dp you get during first seconds of stage

[vivid trail]

Very fast

[versed spire]

But deploy saileach print dp put guard in middle in front of blue box tanks on corners

[vivid trail]

Ok

[versed spire]

Amiya and exu on ranged tiles next to tanks

[vivid trail]

Do they all need to be E2 for it to work

[versed spire]

Probably not

Just don't forget healers

Also upper ranged tiles some drones appear which boost your atk speed

So deploy someone there facing up

To kill drone

[vivid trail]

Should I have 1 tank or 2

[versed spire]

2

On sides

E2 some 4 star btw so you can borrow ling and cheese stages

[fringe jackal]

best E2 for 4 star cheese with ling is myrtle imo

[versed spire]

Yea dp for dragons but otherwise myrtle bad first e2

[robust hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-shocked-what-gif-14076941

[versed spire]

[robust hemlock]

i allready hate this

[versed spire]

Bring cheap tanks

Not mudrock

[fringe jackal]

goldenglow borrow is hilarious on the map because she can hit the fucking casters from the other lanes

[robust hemlock]

tanks cannot be cheap

[versed spire]

Noir