You see how that's how it starts, but you haven't realize you've sucked the fun out of it by using the guides yet
#strategy
cunning river
I've been playing it for like 3 years
I barely use guides
It's still not fun
Honestly AK has been kinda bad for a while
nocturne flame
Idk what to tell you then, sounds like sunk cost fallacy
I've been enjoying it since returning
cunning river
<:shrug:713867534222360657> Idk what to tell you then, sounds like sunk cost fal...
Oh it's absolutely sunk cost fallacy
cyan gorge
Idk about you but recent event mechanics have been fun
sly drift
What event 
cunning river
Mon Hun was fun until it shit the bed on like stage EX 7 or so
The rest have been either easy or stupid bullshit
cyan gorge
What event <:Bnuuy:926515462722973746>
Everything after SN
nocturne flame
Hm, the only times I have lost enjoyment lately are the stages that seem blatantly unfair
lethal dragon
Sn hater smh smh
nocturne flame
Like the last mon hun missions with rathalos were just absurd
sly drift
Everything after SN
Tbf SN has the most "Interesting" mechanic so far 
It burn your head
cyan gorge
Hard to like SN after suffering through it as a newer player 
cunning river
SN is the point AK actively started to shit the bed
sly drift
Anyway mumu event had the most fun mechanic imo
Near Light imo.
lethal dragon
No
cunning river
Near Light was the peak of this game
latent monolith
Hard to like SN after suffering through it as a newer player <:ReedBean:11516015...
I hate NL mechanics because CC8 
cunning river
SN was just horrible
latent monolith
SN wasn't that bad since I had E2 lappland (and didn't touch S stages)
cunning river
Like "you didn't think this through for 5 seconds before putting it out" bad
sly drift
I like SN because its sooooo hard. I like the thrill
lethal dragon
SN wasn't that bad since I had E2 lappland (and didn't touch S stages)
S stages are just gnosis ez
clever kernel
its good, simple and straight forward. dont let the creep run and use hard CC
sly drift
I hate NL mechanics because CC8 <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
Don't you hate Cc9 more?
lethal dragon
MidNearl could never beat the balls
https://imgur.com/a/JLCg3oc
cyan gorge
I had to rush build Gnosis just to clear SN ex8
clever kernel
MidNearl could never beat the balls
https://imgur.com/a/JLCg3oc
lmao
cunning river
Somehow SN defenders
nocturne flame
Near Light was the peak of this game
Ironically I think I stopped playing very soon after or during Near Light
cunning river
I'm convinced the only reason people can enjoy SN is due to Stockholm Syndrome
nocturne flame
What's SN stand for
cunning river
Stultifera Navis
nocturne flame
the hell is that
cunning river
Second Abyss Hunters event
nocturne flame
oh
cunning river
It was god awful
nocturne flame
I was probably not playing during that
cyan gorge
It was last november
surreal star
if you want to vent, take it to #arknights
here isn't the right place for this conversation
clever kernel
sly drift
Will we have another class ban risk on 2nd week?
lethal dragon
We never get that
sly drift
No?
lethal dragon
Yep
cunning river
Okay so enlighten me
lethal dragon
cunning river
Cause I don't have the willpower to sort through it myself
How are you supposed to clear this stupid stage?
cyan gorge
Horn the top left eggs, Pozy/Archetto the middle eggs, use Surt and frd to deal with one of the TFTT and stall reapers
sly drift
What are the first row risks?
cyan gorge
you can afford to leak the second TFTT
cunning river
Horn the top left eggs, Pozy/Archetto the middle eggs, use Surt and frd to deal ...
I don't have Horn and even with a wanderer healer my characters get stunlocked
cunning river
Without healer my units last even less
terse oasis
Is this daily r8?
cunning river
Yes
terse oasis
Pretty easy no?
cyan gorge
No medic required
noble pewter
If u just doing r8 n sea crawlers bug u why not just don't pick that risk that has more of them?
cunning river
I dunno what you're doing, but I also don't have Yato
cunning river
Lee cheese what are you even talking about
cyan gorge
Lee has "no u" stun reflect
latent monolith
Horn can be replaced by an AA sniper that's redeployed, just used for the top left eggs
ashen shadow
r u talking about risk 8 or 15
cunning river
8
ashen shadow
do u have lee
latent monolith
This was R9 tho, should've dropped the dp risk
cyan gorge
My strat is Horn top eggs, Chetto middle eggs, Surtr bottom TFTT, then Texalt + Yato spam the reapers
cunning river
do u have lee
Yes but completely unraised
ashen shadow
cunning river
My strat is Horn top eggs, Chetto middle eggs, Surtr bottom TFTT, then Texalt +...
Okay see, this seems completely impossible
Because there's no way Surtr isn't getting stunlocked
ashen shadow
u dont need whisperrain if u have these ops
cunning river
Which is what happens to me
ashen shadow
no need for masteries
cunning river
Bait what?
cyan gorge
the stun
cunning river
I already have a bait for the stun
latent monolith
If you don't take FTT risks surtr can spawncamp either one tho
cunning river
Still everyone gets stunned
cyan gorge
Yeah for r8 ignore TFTT risks
cunning river
I don't have any of the boss risks
latent monolith
Are you also taking -50% atk because that's cancer
cyan gorge
Surt kills easily
cunning river
Are you also taking -50% atk because that's cancer
Yes, that's the challeng risk I think
latent monolith
Yeah just do that separately
cyan gorge
you know you can do the challenge mission and r8 separately right?
ashen shadow
no need for masteries and pots and should be ok at level 60
cunning river
The less I have to touch any stage the better
ashen shadow
and no skill usage just deploy 
latent monolith
Consider that by making the stage easier you have to think about it less
cunning river
Consider that by making the stage easier you have to think about it less
Hmm
noble pewter
Even with -50% atk, surtr with s3 activate few frame b4 ftt spawn can bring him down to a silver of hp b4 he becomes untargetable n bombards surtr to death
cunning river
Even with -50% atk, surtr with s3 activate few frame b4 ftt spawn can bring him ...
Tried that, didn't work
noble pewter
Maybe u can take vid of ur gameplay so we can diagnose the problem
terse oasis
What risk is he even taking
slow warren
U have lumen? Also what risk are u aiming for
terse oasis
Hes doing r8 daily
slow warren
Hmm definitely don't take the boss tags
cunning river
I play pretty fast and loose so I don't know if there's much of anything to diagnose
cyan gorge
Surtr your problems away
slow warren
I used suzuran s3 and SA top side to reveal invis and extra DPS, and surtr to block him. Lumen for stun recovery until first boss died, and immediately stop his skill to recharge for 2nd boss
cosmic thicket
Surtr your problems away <:ReedBean:1151601576700559390>
yeah this is legit
cyan gorge
you can drop Yato for gravel and Kafka/Red
cunning river
Surtr your problems away <:ReedBean:1151601576700559390>
Without the 50% riskt this works, but then there's the rest of the stage that's a problem
terse oasis
Sounds like a skill issue all the way since SN
cyan gorge
I did take 50% atk down
cosmic thicket
Without the 50% riskt this works, but then there's the rest of the stage that's ...
wait what level is ur surtr
cunning river
90
cosmic thicket
and m3?
cunning river
Yes
cyan gorge
my e2 60 killed just fine
cosmic thicket
you should have no problems then
noble pewter
Maybe he is hitting top left sea crawler while his surtr is below them n surtr gets stunned n die
cunning river
Yeah, see, shit on this game often doesn't work the same way for me even if I replicate second by second
cyan gorge
Yeah don't place Surtr until the first reaper starts running
cunning river
I did take 50% atk down
Because with this risk on Surtr does barely like a third of it's health
cyan gorge
then don't take TFTT risks
noble pewter
I mean deploying a fia like that is kinda wasteful 
cunning river
Yeah don't place Surtr until the first reaper starts running
So what I did then
cunning river
Is the blocked person saying anything useful that I should know?
terse oasis
Still a cupcake lmao
cunning river
Or are they one of those that do nothing but shittalk?
terse oasis
Blocking ppl for saying skill issue
noble pewter
Like don't expose surtr to any elemental dmg b4 ftt appears
terse oasis
One year aft SN he still has skill issue
cosmic thicket
is it ok if i show an ss of a guide video for reference
like to show a good timing for placing surtr
cyan gorge
I suppose I can say this isn't bad cause I played cc9 a lot
cunning river
other than atk down 3
I stopped taking atk down, because sure, I can do it separetely
cyan gorge
Just do it separately if it's a headache
cunning river
like to show a good timing for placing surtr
I remember doing this map back when it was the current CC, I know the ideal Surtr timing
cyan gorge
you don't lose anything
terse oasis
u can totally take atk down tho?
Hes complained ntrk and surtr cant kill the reefbreaker from SN
cunning river
It's just now working this time cause who the fuck knows
cosmic thicket
well around here in case you forget
cosmic thicket
in the video he also uses someone to bait the first TFTT ability
cyan gorge
That's what I'm doing
Do you still need that Horn?
cosmic thicket
cunning river
u can totally take atk down tho?
The last attempt I did without were doable, the ones I did it with were basically impossible
cunning river
Do you still need that Horn?
I'd like to try without her, I'll tell you if I just can't manage
Thanks for the offer
cyan gorge
Gotcha
cunning river
I don't know if it's an account issue or something
cosmic thicket
well r u available to screenshare what ur doing in vc
terse oasis
Its a person issue
cunning river
The rate at which thing doesn't work despite doing the exact same thing is exhausting
cyan gorge
You can skip egg risk, drop Horn entirely
terse oasis
You can skip egg risk, drop Horn entirely
He could literally take the risks i showed but oh wait he blocked me
cosmic thicket
Its a person issue
can you say something constructive for once
cunning river
For that I'd have to take the squad limit risk
cyan gorge
Let him cook how he wants
terse oasis
can you say something constructive for once
I have since last year but all he does is dismiss solutions as game issues
U can see his chat log as he dismiss every solution as the game doesnt work
cunning river
I have a couple people on this server blocked, I'm gonna assume it's one of those that only hang out here to scream skill issue to feel better about themselves
terse oasis
Cant rly help someone like that
slow warren
@cunning river https://youtu.be/b2EXY7RoI3U?si=pTY_C4xB8tvSRuut
Although this is max risk, u can adjust the risk tags accordingly, the strat is quite stable
cosmic thicket
I have a couple people on this server blocked, I'm gonna assume it's one of thos...
are you available to screenshare or not
that's the least painful way to figure out what's not right
cunning river
Like through discord?
cosmic thicket
yeah
cunning river
How would you do that?
cunning river
I don't have share my mic, right?
cosmic thicket
no
polar crane
no
cosmic thicket
even if u play on mobile i think u can still screenshare from discord mobile
cunning river
I've never used vc, how do I do this
cosmic thicket
just join a vc
or
hop in here
click this button (if you're on pc)
if you're on mobile i have no idea how that works
cunning river
Can you see it?
cunning river
Usually she doesn't do much
cyan gorge
You're better off with fast redeploy stalling tbh
cunning river
When she's on the field
cosmic thicket
also if you think angelina is gonna be helping to slow the reapers with s2 she gets stunned too quickly
cyan gorge
when stun, just remove and replace
cunning river
Angelina's there for emotional support
cosmic thicket
im curious i want to see how you handle atk down 3
4 crawlers is kind of aids without horn imo
you could try w s3
since they're all grouped together the bombs hurt them all
cyan gorge
Ngl I think Chetto s3 would be better than Pozy in that spot
cosmic thicket
hmm i find that the typewriter should be targeting the second egg, you're not making use of pozy's full skill duration
that surtr was too early
you're supposed to actually let the flower go, better to pop it with texalt
sharp wadi
How to get rid dog
cyan gorge
All this just seems needlessly complicated to me
cosmic thicket
yeah the execution should be different
ashen shadow
zealous geyser
cunning river
yeah the execution should be different
Yeah I have no idea what you mean by this
cosmic thicket
cunning river
I don't have the patience to sit for six hours trying to perfectly execute a stage any longer
cyan gorge
If you want to burst eggs, Chetto does that job better than Pozy
zealous geyser
can someone help
cyan gorge
one cycles
cosmic thicket
DON'T USE KALTSIT
cyan gorge
Pro tip: Fia does less damage at 1 hp than she does at >80% hp
cosmic thicket
Pro tip: Fia does *less* damage at 1 hp than she does at >80% hp
this
cyan gorge
Put Honey next to her and this issue will be solved
cosmic thicket
im curious why do you bring elysium if you're not even gonna deploy him first
im 90% sure he's on s1 too
why are you putting 3 blocks in the ftt/reaper lane AAAAAAAAAAAA
cunning river
im curious why do you bring elysium if you're not even gonna deploy him first
Elysium goes after at least one of the eggs dies
cunning river
And the 3 blocks is so the reaper/boss don't just run into the gate
cyan gorge
There's a cheeky spot outside of egg range for your lane holder
cosmic thicket
And the 3 blocks is so the reaper/boss don't just run into the gate
the reapers literally kill themselves by going around
signal granite
All stun together
cosmic thicket
like you're worried about nothing
cosmic thicket
that works too yeah
i was gonna suggest saria goes in front of thorns so her 3 block can actually be used and thorns doesnt get overwhelmed
cunning river
like you're worried about nothing
I've tried this already, if you don't block them early or at all you don't have enough time to kill them/let them kill themselves
cosmic thicket
I've tried this already, if you don't block them early or at all you don't have ...
you're not taking reaper risk though
plus you have texalter
cyan gorge
that's why I suggested frd spam and stall
clever kernel
cyan gorge
they kill themselves
terse oasis
Sounds like u guys are putting way too much effort
clever kernel
no hp up? no reaper risk? ez suicide
cunning river
that's why I suggested frd spam and stall
If I'm already suffering this, I suffer FRD and bait strategies like 10 times more
terse oasis
To help someone who cant help themselves
clever kernel
u just need to attack it early
cosmic thicket
if you have kafka it's really easy
cosmic thicket
To help someone who cant help themselves
i've been in worse situations
terse oasis
Even gravel is good enuf to stall
clever kernel
make sure u use texalter and damage it so it suicides
cyan gorge
there's literally no bait timing, just drop frd whenever the last one dies/gets stunned
clever kernel
there's literally no bait timing, just drop frd whenever the last one dies/gets ...
the only bait timing needed is if you go FTT risk cuz that shit hurts
cosmic thicket
i frd stalled my way to r15 earlier today but i can't replicate it 
cyan gorge
I don't think this is gonna get anywhere as long as he's trying to brute force block everything, which is impossible to do with atk up risks insta stunning everything
cosmic thicket
yeah
cunning river
If I don't block what am I supposed to do
cosmic thicket
like the whole idea of this map is to outrange the guys
which is why surtr, pozy, horn, goldenglow are common
cyan gorge
frd stall, like I've been saying 
cosmic thicket
you can also frd stall yes
terse oasis
Its a e1 gravel btw
Here is my experience helping him during SN. his claim was gravel cant tank long enough for chalter to kill thr reefer
cosmic thicket
e1 gravel is fine
cyan gorge
far simpler to pull off than whatever tf you're doing now
terse oasis
And u wonder why some ppl just say skill issue to him
tidal sedge
yall said you dont need skalter lol
ashen shadow
terse oasis
Man refuses to believe the problem lies wif him when hes supposedly copying guides perfectly
cunning river
I got curious and unhid the messages
From what I remember, you didin't even try to help you just kept throwing shit my way
terse oasis
I showed it was possible wif weaker units but u kept denying it
Ur receipts are thr anyone can read it
U kept sayong surtr and ntrk cant kill a reef breaker
cosmic thicket
for reference this is what i used to clear r15 today and it should absolutely work for r8
cyan gorge
I'm trying to help, but our suggestions are just going in one ear and out the other without bothering to consider them and keeps doing what he's been doing before and failing again and again
flat sapphire
U kept sayong surtr and ntrk cant kill a reef breaker
I remeber that
flat sapphire
terse oasis
And u wonder why some ppl just dont bother wif him
cosmic thicket
I'm trying to help, but our suggestions are just going in one ear and out the ot...
yeah... like at this point idk if you're intentionally wasting time
cunning river
I'm trying to help, but our suggestions are just going in one ear and out the ot...
I just don't know how frd stalling is supposed to work like. I imagine you cycle them to stop the bosses from moving, but you've already seen that I'm pretty clumsy playing
cyan gorge
Did you even try?
Like I said, drop frd in front of reaper
retreat and replace when they die/get stunned
cosmic thicket
frd stalling is
- drop frd in front of reaper
- wait until frd is about to die
- retreat frd
- place new frd
- rinse and repeat
cunning river
Did you even try?
Okay, if this attempt fails I'll try that next time
cosmic thicket
you don't have to do that much stalling for the reapers since it's just risk 1 if you're planning to take it
terse oasis
Hes not even taking reaper risk one deploy is enuf
ashen shadow
cosmic thicket
frd stalling really is the way huh
ashen shadow
i blocked them
cyan gorge
Wow Honey's healing is not good for Fia 
sly drift
Pretty sure Fia outded honey heal
cosmic thicket
honeyberry healing on atk down 3 is uhhhhhhhh
polar crane
mul is better
cunning river
yeah... like at this point idk if you're intentionally wasting time
I don't want to come across this way, it's just a combination of being exhausted with the game and certain parts of the community
cyan gorge
You spent too much time in this shithole
cunning river
Yeah
cosmic thicket
if you have a kafka she is a lifesaver on this stage
cunning river
Kafka is I think the one 5* I'm missing
cosmic thicket
reapers are sleepable so they just kill themselves for 5 seconds and stay put
cyan gorge
oof
cunning river
Dunno this is my list
cosmic thicket
she's a specialist
latent monolith
Do you have like ifrit
cyan gorge
Projekt Red will be a fine replacement
cunning river
Dunno if you see some magic solution
cosmic thicket
your screen is glitching out
cunning river
I'm on wifi so that can happen
cyan gorge
You have all the bare minimum tools, you just have to put it together in a smarter way
cosmic thicket
more than the bare minimum
you have the equivalent of a gold pickaxe and you're trying to mine dirt (idk if this is a sensible analogy i don't play minecraft)
ashen shadow
also can u not use fia s2 here?
terse oasis
you have the equivalent of a gold pickaxe and you're trying to mine dirt (idk if...
The more accurate term is using the pickaxe handle to mine while claiming hes using the head then getting frustrated that the tool doesnt work
cunning river
This is like the first time ever I've used Fiametta
cyan gorge
The offer for a Horn, or even a high invested Archetto, is still on the table
latent monolith
If you have ifrit raised you can also do this, easy 5 step clear without any special ops (warf can be any decent medic, siege can be any vg, exu can be any AA sniper or horn)
Just take all the T1 and T2 risks except the dp one
scarlet ledge
If you have ifrit raised you can also do this, easy 5 step clear without any spe...
pro
latent monolith
I do this on every daily 
cyan gorge
Congratz you won @cunning river
cunning river
Okay yeah, I was a fool
scarlet ledge
wtf is that lancerisdead dalao
cosmic thicket
ok np
cosmic thicket
sv karst will come around again sometime in week 2 so i hope you remember what we have suggested
scarlet ledge
hello halleylu
cosmic thicket
what r u not taking, atk down?
cosmic thicket
ah
scarlet ledge
@cosmic thicket ftt invi is already a pain on r12
cosmic thicket
that sounds kinda AAAA
scarlet ledge
its destroyed my strat
@cosmic thicket https://youtu.be/UPhRxHvFbUY?si=GYTWN2KApTtbnLR7
watch that
now imagine adding -atk r3
cosmic thicket
damn
i feel like r13 is doable with more ops
but i have not played bears a single time so i could be completely wrong
zealous geyser
can i get help
foggy grove
why ng
ashen shadow
free res 
frigid kite
Red will be so confused that he will start doing arts
ashen shadow
shining s2 saria s1 ptilo 
gleaming lodge
Aye, don't worry about it mate
Making these is very exhausting
tidal sedge
@cyan gorge @vernal lion yall were an awesome help btw thanks, your strat worked
scarlet ledge
pull out Lee s3 <:Sheew:596474493522804746>
wtf
latent monolith
convert lee to your niche fr
kindred heron
Anyone got any suggestions for this? Hoshi just gets yanked in 2 hits even with NG+Shining S3 up
latent monolith
6k atk boss 
kindred heron
foggy grove
hasty oxide
Anyone got any suggestions for this? Hoshi just gets yanked in 2 hits even with ...
shamare doll to get him from 50% to 0% (shining S3 to cover the last bit if you need), nian S3 maybe 5-10 seconds after, shamare doll on CD
it's sketchy as hell but it works 
coral haven
When people are faced with a boss that discourages blocking
what do they decide to do?
Block harder.
hasty oxide
well at first i went in with hoshi and she got obliterated, thought whether i was gonna try it or not, decided nah and stalled/ping ponged him, but then couldn't resist and went back in
mellow ravine
Speaking of....
Would a Eunectes Max Module Y and S1M3 have higher def/survivability than Hoshiguma?
And for shitsngiggles let's add pot5
ashen shadow
she cant dodge
mellow ravine
Shoot, you have a point
jovial nest
what do they decide to do?
Body cycling is a thing to slow them down until enough DPS is poured
About the R4 challenge, yeah, that is indeed the time to do high risk strats and use ranged nukers and debuffers
He cant dash if theres no one to dash to
Maybe go push too
With Weedy
hasty oxide
Speaking of....
Would a Eunectes Max Module Y and S1M3 have higher def/survivab...
assuming def% buffs act on base def and are additive (I have no idea how arknights math works but that's probably a reasonable assumption otherwise we'd see more tank strats stacking buffs and getting STUPID tanky), hoshi ~1307 def vs eunectes 1068. this is full everything - mod3, mastery 3, pot5, etc
jovial nest
Nian is most recommended for afk and skill-based tanking.
But I prefer Hoshi for afk tanking because of higher potential with def buffs
For Eun, my only consideration to even mastery her is S2
It wont
Carry you far enough
mellow ravine
Anyways, #strategy
Any required Masteries for Shining and Skadalt for CC?
S2 for both
glass monolith
If it works - no need. If it doesn't work - maybe need
jovial nest
Skalter is a nice casual S2M3 for all purposes
Shining....is a hard sell for masteries
glass monolith
if you M3 and it still doesn't work - Game is shit, time to cook new strat
noble pewter
What's srs mean?
mellow ravine
I've found a fairly common strat (mostly AFK starts) that I can mostly replicate and those seem to be the core healers of said strat
mellow ravine
Only problem is that those strats also had a Mountain or Chongyue and I need to make do with a Thorns
hasty oxide
Any required Masteries for Shining and Skadalt for CC?
i did that strat with shining M1, skadi M3, hoshi M0 and it was super comfy
jovial nest
What's srs mean?
Serious
mellow ravine
Hmm
I only got S2M1 on Skadialt but working on M2 later tonight, Shining I've decided to just get her module to buff her (though Bagpipe is priority for that little bit of extra DP when she opens the stage)
hasty oxide
one consideration if you're using thorns instead of mountain is to face him to the right so that he helps damage the boss
then you might be able to get through the last 50%, revive, and then kill with shining S3 duration
jovial nest
one consideration if you're using thorns instead of mountain is to face him to t...
That was my old <R18 strat
hasty oxide
if you can't tank it with the masteries you have now
jovial nest
Until it didnt work out
mellow ravine
then you might be able to get through the last 50%, revive, and then kill with ...
I don't have any masteries on Shining, but Eunectes S3M3 should be a massive boost to survivability against the boss
I have Blaze covering left lane, Thorns is right facing down along with Myrtle
hasty oxide
hm. I didn't use thorns so I don't know if he can hold the left lane 
eunectes will indeed be tanky when skill is up but idk if you can burst him down that fast
mellow ravine
hm. I didn't use thorns so I don't know if he can hold the left lane <:worryshr...
didnt I just say that Blaze is covering left and Thorns is on right with mortars and casters?
From lower risks, Eunectes can just barely kill Avenger on his second risk buff with second risk health up for all enemies
I might have to lower Avenger's Risk and raise the health up risk to 3
hasty oxide
you did yes - but if thorns can hold left, that means blaze can hold right and face down, so you have help from both
however I have a feeling the answer is thorns gets overwhelmed and leaks
cause any time he's hitting the big dudes with 2 dogs en route, that's a leak
jovial nest
I don't have any masteries on Shining, but Eunectes S3M3 should be a massive boo...
You dont need masteries on Shining
And in this day and age, its a VERY hard sell
mellow ravine
cause any time he's hitting the big dudes with 2 dogs en route, that's a leak
That's most likely the case, but I think Eunectes is a strong enough statstick who may need less support for handling that lane
Skalter S2M1 (or M2) with Eunectes ModuleY S3M3 is probably more than enough
May change to S1 if I find trouble in holding the mob avengers tho
jovial nest
Even amongst the top class utility medics, Shining is low prio
mellow ravine
I mean, Def really isn't a priority when Arts are much more dangerous-
She got great aspd tho, atleast she got that-
jovial nest
.....Lumen S3 exists
As well as Ptilo S2
And arts is only the more dangerous one specifically because HG will never make a very high RES ops
Due to it being % mitigation
ashen shadow
s2m3 shining
mellow ravine
Remind me to raise my Lumen
Noted, I usually only have Shining as my go-to ST healer
Might switch her out for Lumen under your suggestion after the CC
tidal sedge
I will conclude my talk about the Sargon Anni run
I have tried and recorded the funny SP Build with the formation... almost similiar to above and no changes to the unit line, except I change texalter to Eyja(in warfarin position, facing up, and... everyone in the bottom line the 4 ones are pulled back by 1 square to the right(Thorns only focus on that one vertical line of enemies), and ptilo is facing right in the side of Lumen)
and... not as funny as how I wanted it to be
it's a clear? yeah... but... there is no ear breaking experience, ruins the point
can't send vids here because will be counted as self promo and approx tomorrow
sly drift
Man.. imagine how easier high risk if we have timer in game.
steep tartan
Timer? o-o
glass monolith
Featurefull bug
versed arrow
Or is it a feature
i think its a feature seeing how they did not do a maintenance for it, how are you going to kill a raid of them otherwise anyway?
soft crystal
Outhealing the reflect damage ofc
versed arrow
you can outheal 1 sure but outhealing a whole raid? doubt
soft crystal
Yeah you can
Pretty easily even without food
Just relying on slower attacking operators and having 2 healers is enough
solid dew
i think its a feature seeing how they did not do a maintenance for it, how are y...
i just used saria S3 + big surtr lol
works suprisingly well
celest solstice
Is it doable- Im trying to follow KyoStinv but I have no other uh, stallers
clever kernel
I think that hp down 3 will be the end of you, as your strategy relies on the defenders for tanking redblade while you have enough dmg for the mobs
celest solstice
I think that hp down 3 will be the end of you, as your strategy relies on the de...
yeah I couldnt even get to blade spawning
signal granite
if use Kyo strategy, most enemy will be killed by Mlynar as planned
celest solstice
if use Kyo strategy, most enemy will be killed by Mlynar as planned
most-
signal granite
ya most, first few dog and one of the caster is killed by others
celest solstice
Im suffering from the last red guy before red blade
signal granite
last?
you mean last 2 avenger which come together?
celest solstice
then again, Im using a shitty mlynar, e2l60s3lvl5
thats the best mlynar I can borrow 
signal granite
er... maybe you can use mine, only pot 1 but L90 S3M3..
steep tartan
oh i thought this daily would have...harder risks
signal granite
Xintas#4740
signal granite
done, and hope you clear it
celest solstice
thank you
signal granite
for CH10 theme cc, should be "hp down tag" or "aura art dmg" more pain 
glass monolith
Most pain is squad 7. I will spawn kill Fred in my sleep
celest solstice
last?
you mean last 2 avenger which come together?
yeah, Im dying from those 2
still
glass monolith
It took me 2 kafkas and 1 texas alter to make them be together But yea painfully close to each other
clever kernel
Oh mb that's the issue 
signal granite
yeah, Im dying from those 2
you got any other medic?
glass monolith
Fred in todays daily dies to Mlynar reflect
wise perch
whats the minimum to permastall the boss at risk 2
celest solstice
whats a good replacement of jackie and podenco since I dont have jackie
and I dont have e1 podenco
signal granite
do you have specter?
glass monolith
whats the minimum to permastall the boss at risk 2
e2 30 Mlynar (15 res, 451 def, 3818 hp) + e2 50 Quercus S1L7 (422 heal every 1.6 seconds + 14% damage reduction (effectively Mlynar has 27 res while above 70% hp)) stall +40% 420 arts of Boss phase 1 "forever" for me (Boss will reflect himself to death).
Also convenient 0 block of convenience allow redirect of cannon to baits when he is off skill
foggy grove
lol
glass monolith
DR stacks unless it is Sanctuary then it is highest take effect. But Sanctuary stacks with non Sanctuary
foggy grove
gotta wonder how mid hoederer will be
glass monolith
And Stainless is physical damage only reduction which stacks with Sanctuary's DR
turbid badge
DR stacks unless it is Sanctuary then it is highest take effect. But Sanctuary s...
oh sanctuary stacks with sheltee?
shelter?
but arent they the same thng
uhh wait
foggy grove
no
glass monolith
i think they renamed Shelter to Sanctuary
scarlet ledge
pro
sour steppe
hey guys
polar crane
sup
sour steppe
do u guys have suggestion on what I should use to farm 10-17 https://krooster.com/u/Ketsura
eager gate
huh
Is 10-17 even farmable?
scarlet ledge
what is 10-17 again
sour steppe
what is 10-17 again
Manfred
sour steppe
IS give plenty of those
I already got every level of IS3
polar crane
let me check what 10 17
sour steppe
also imagine giving 40 tokens of CC for that when we have a 50% stage drop
polar crane
jesus manfred boss fight junp scare 
sour steppe
maybe you can Ling Schwarz it
I dont have Ling
and my Schwarz is basically non-existent
eager gate
Ling is prob the only way to duo
Try ah then?
gleaming lodge
Stop trying to 2op every stage please...
eager gate
no, because I want to
gleaming lodge
If you don't have what it takes to carbon copy a 2ops, use your brain...
Then find your own 2ops
eager gate
I mean yeah I was the one who suggested what to run for low op
gleaming lodge
That wasn't for you then
eager gate
fair
sour steppe
I just want to get 4 fluids and be done with it
gleaming lodge
Buy them with green certs ?
eager gate
get a blocker and aoe waveclear to choke the slimes in the spot, or put a Mudrock in there maybe
most reliable way to off Manny is something that bypasses dodge, even if it's just s3 Amiya
sour steppe
already spent they all
eager gate
other options are Fartooth Schwarz Pozyomka Kaltsit
gleaming lodge
eager gate
oh, and ntrk
gleaming lodge
Why are we not farming 9-6 instead ?
polar crane
they want higher drop rate iirc
eager gate
gleaming lodge
Do we not care about sanity efficiency anymore ?
It's not like you need these mats asap
high crest
Max risk?! So pro
tall phoenix
glass monolith
It is character everyone offers WHEN I MENTION MELANTA, 1 block is blessing when blocking more that 1 is shortcut to death
lethal dragon
very high drop rate
Do 11-16 instead tbh
10-17 is too long of a stage
glass monolith
45 sanity per mat (average 5 per day) -> 60 sanity per mat (average 4 per day)
Like "Why are you running"
eager gate
Matoimaru's got a 6* worthy artwork, absolutely glorious and full of character
slow warren
U mean your assistant? That's matoimaru. she's alright, I don't use her much
sour steppe
Do 11-16 instead tbh
10-17 is too long of a stage
11-16 has 34% drop rate
eager gate
been trying to do 10-17 with Mudrock and bosskillers for a while
doesn't work, she fuckin dies at phase swap. May be a level/pot diff
eager gate
gotta use Ling for extra bodies for sure
sour steppe
But has the T4 mats
it dont matter to me when the difference is 20%
lethal dragon
Efficiency wise it's higher tho but fine
I was just recommending it because 10-17 gonna be Hella long
eager gate
TIL normal stuns don't remove Manny's dodge
What an ass mechanic
turbid badge
TIL normal stuns don't remove Manny's dodge
What an ass mechanic
??
of course
its just cannon
just deploy mudrock last
or smth
if u want to bomb him
or deploy a defender
near
but it doesnt hit mudrock
eager gate
I know how to deal with manfred. I was trying to duo Mudrock and manny-killer
Mudrock eventually just dies to his transition sadly
glass monolith
Well his anime girl transformation is random bullshit which targets my Myrtles 4 times in row so Mudrock death is not guaranteed
celest solstice
Attempt 50+, should I just s2 Mudrock and hope she can handle Mr katana weeb here alone without heals?
glass monolith
That's copium and they will nuke her when reach 50% hp if not before
glass monolith
Oh... Literally no idea, I didn't let him do any attacks with pullers abuse
celest solstice
ah
glass monolith
At this moment teta noticed something is off about cost
turbid badge
yea i just noticed
glass monolith
I love S2 Cantabile on this map
3 more enemies spawn on top left just as those 3 move down and Cantabile cannon all 6 when revealed from slime block
Just make sure to not start her skill too early or she run out of ammo
gleaming lodge
I need it for doing max risk next week
Yeah
So you have more than enough time to farm it the efficient way
lethal dragon
Not long enough to kill Andreana
sour steppe
Yeah
So you have more than enough time to farm it the efficient way
theres not, I also have to farm Rocks, Aketons and Books
gleaming lodge
Maybe you should've done that a bit earlier
civic bear
Attempt 50+, should I just s2 Mudrock and hope she can handle Mr katana weeb her...
Mud lvl 25 with that tag is 36.53 hps
S2 is 7-8 hps
Boss is 107 dps.
That's roughly 26s when shield reach 0.
S1 meanwhile is drops boss dps to 67 dps with 36.5 hps so 30.5s
S3 should be better if you can afford the 10s period but that requires help
celest solstice
S3 should be better if you can afford the 10s period but that requires help
well I want that, but I cant, because DOGS
zealous geyser
can someone give me help??
using nightingale because i got no shining and blemi because no saria
used la pluma instead of mountain and it worked really well since skalter was healing la pluma and la plumas skill is fine even with the aspd debuff
celest solstice
can someone give me help??
using nightingale because i got no shining and blemi...
borrow mlynar 
celest solstice
ahh
zealous geyser
can i send link to the guide
celest solstice
Id love to help but Ill go to sleep rn
hope you can find someone that can help you
zealous geyser
alr
fast pivot
Idr who was helping me yesterday. But I thank yall for talkin it out with me. I spent some OP on a few resets to get the mats I needed to E2 mountain and was able to get m y R18
foggy grove
can someone give me help??
using nightingale because i got no shining and blemi...
aoe medic has lower atk compared to st medic and you are using s2 which make ng hps even more lacking
actually it's prolly faster if you show your roster
zealous geyser
i used purestream in my 2nd run and the same thing happened
sullen rover
just show roster honestly
steep tartan
Attempt 50+, should I just s2 Mudrock and hope she can handle Mr katana weeb her...
oh thats a huuuuuuuuuugely underdeveloped squad 
well ig if people can do it like above theyre just dalao
zealous geyser
idk what else to do
zealous geyser
aoe medic has lower atk compared to st medic and you are using s2 which make ng ...
sullen rover
okay so pick better risks and burst him instead
sullen rover
you dont need one
just place 2 laneholders
and then mlynar suzu take cares of like everything else
foggy grove
your hoshi doesn't even have module
zealous geyser
and then mlynar suzu take cares of like everything else
but 7 op squad limit
sullen rover
like i said pick better risks
zealous geyser
your hoshi doesn't even have module
i rarely use her
what risks should i pick then
fast pivot
I beat risk 8 at the top right with a support eunectes. But to get to 14, 16 and 18, i followed the low op guide. I just had to tailor it to my units a bit because I didn't invest in all the lower ops
sullen rover
probably like 5 deploy limit
signal granite
why need choose to do 7 squad risk if you worry?
zealous geyser
5 deploy limit is really hard for me
sullen rover
spalter penance mlynar suzu and someone to keep suzu alive
sullen rover
actually you can do 7 squad risk
zealous geyser
spalter penance mlynar suzu and someone to keep suzu alive
i need to ban 2 classes
thats how i did risk 10 tho
high crest
Ban specialist and caster if you didn't use them
sullen rover
you dont have to pick the highest risk possible
sullen rover
zealous geyser
?
signal granite
wow that HP xd
fast pivot
I couldn't deal with the atk up so i had 80% hp instead of 30% atk and 40% hp
sullen rover
since youre not really tanking anything
fast pivot
that extra hp is chonky
zealous geyser
120 hp
sullen rover
yeah do enemies atk up probably
zealous geyser
atk up gonna be so difficult too tho
zealous geyser
didnt wanna do atk up cuz the enemies were gonna oneshot me if i have the hp debuff on myself
sullen rover
whos oneshotting who
zealous geyser
the sword guys
sullen rover
youre not tanking them lol
zealous geyser
yeah but even if i
use texas
or yato
those guys literally dont give me time to even attack
because they run
fast pivot
zealous geyser
dont you only deploy him at the end
sullen rover
hes like 10 dp lol
sullen rover
spalter penance mlynar suzu you have a spare 3
zealous geyser
wheres healer
zealous geyser
myrtle healer hoshi and bagpipe
sullen rover
why hoshi
sullen rover
use mlyna rto kill them
???
you know you can activate his skill more than once right?
zealous geyser
but his skill isnt up all the time
fast pivot
sullen rover
time it
fast pivot
Mylnar is a timed thing
fast pivot
if you use it at the right time the first time
zealous geyser
atk up or hp 120
frigid kite
zealous geyser
should i be bringing like yato/texas
sullen rover
eh sure
sullen rover
let me try sth rn
zealous geyser
like 2 sec away from skill
foggy grove
tbh just take deploy limit
use sexas/kyato to helps spalter or killi g weebs
yato one cycle weeb
sullen rover
yeah 5 deploy squad better
you can use kal s3m3 to hold the lane and also acts as a sub healer for mlynar
deft badger
||https://youtu.be/LGktMC33J60||
only thing i am wondering about is why do u have effects i don't 😂
my liskarms ulty doesn't have lightnings
vital arrow
liskarm skin
deft badger
ahh ok
was my first thought is it a skin but was looking at her and she looks like my liskarm but ulty animation is totally different
tidal sedge
i noticed that ranged ops doesn't take dmg from reflect arts
Somehow... The platform (especially platform II) makes your ranged immune from almost any attacks
"Camo" they said
turbid badge
its a skin
coral haven
@gleaming lodge did all the cc researchers just graduated from this server? I’ve seen like 1 people who I’ve known for a while.
The other is you.
Either I’m present at the wrong time or everyone has disappeared.
gleaming lodge
<@196243364864065537> did all the cc researchers just graduated from this server...
The cc researchers ?
Like, the people who made the sheets ?
coral haven
No I just meant people who regularly goes into bilibili for reference.
gleaming lodge
We all kind of moved on yeah
CC is cool but after three years of grinding the game it feels a bit too repetitive
And real life stuff gets more intense 
coral haven
Are you not going to miss your last cc?
gleaming lodge
No I just meant people who regularly goes into bilibili for reference.
Oh
Yeah, #strategy has become more a shitshow than anything
Part of the reason why I'm not here too often
gleaming lodge
Are you not going to miss your last cc?
I uninstalled the game a month ago, and I'm very happy about it
I wasn't having fun anymore
deft badger
didn't u quit the game? 😄
glass monolith
coral haven
Well I’ve no say in this matter.
gleaming lodge
didn't u quit the game? 😄
Yes I did
I'm doing a master's degree
I don't have much time to spare
coral haven
Gl bro.
gleaming lodge
Or rather, the little time I have will not be spent on chore simulators
coral haven
At this point I might just look for dedicated servers and look for better social circle there.
gleaming lodge
If you want to seriously play this game, yeah, staying here is only going to piss you off
The level of in AKO has been increasing quite steadily...
coral haven
I just took up the responsibility of specialistknights
glass monolith
Yes I did
I'm doing a master's degree
I don't have much time to spare <:AmiyaSad...
good luck with chore of your life and i hope it will be actually used afterwards
coral haven
What are you doing your course on?
gleaming lodge
good luck with chore of your life and i hope it will be actually used afterwards
what do you mean by "be used afterwards" ?
deft badger
this community is pure cancer 
gleaming lodge
I'm studying physics btw
deft badger
nice
gleaming lodge
And am potentially planning to be a university teacher/research
coral haven
He means you better not have done a masters degree on English.
coral haven
And am potentially planning to be a university teacher/research
Any field in mind?
gleaming lodge
Optics and electrodynamics/quantum stuff
Are mostly what I like right now
I've never been a big fan of thermodynamics and relativity
coral haven
Optics and electrodynamics/quantum stuff
Join HG in the lore department and actually fix the science behind it because I need to know.
coral haven
gleaming lodge
I'll work on far more real stuff
Like fusilli pasta shaped light beams
The defknights community did r24 on perma map, that's very nice 
sour steppe
Maybe you should've done that a bit earlier <:LappDumb:596474463118163968>
earlier I was doing farming the event
gleaming lodge
"the most" is very hard to define for such a wide concept
glass monolith
Most application would be cooking. Humanity survived without electricity, humanity didn't survive without food
coral haven
I think heat is because everything seems to work around heat.
Specialistknights is capable of doing at least r22 from what I’ve seen so far.
Idk about guardknights.
gleaming lodge
But yeah, you could argue that whatever is the most useful in engineering (electricity, thermodynamics and mechanics) are the fields with the most applications
Though, that's not necessarily the biggest applications
main solstice
Specialistknights is capable of doing at least r22 from what I’ve seen so far.
go look into arkrec but specialist can do max w1
gleaming lodge
I think heat is because everything seems to work around heat.
Thermal machines are very useful yeah
glass monolith
loads for me
coral haven
On mobile?
coral haven
I think it’s a phone problem.
God ffs why are so many websites made with pc support and not mobile support
This is a mobile game
deft badger
anyway respect to u, for studding something smart
i got my dipl. ing. in underground construction and never worked one single day the job i learned
ended up to be a welder-fitter-metalworker, now a CWS since 2 years but still wasted time at studding...
coral haven
Did you manage to make lasting friends at least?
glass monolith
Did you manage to make lasting friends at least?
You hitting me into weak spot 
turbid badge
It’s not working for me
Yea my Iphone
isnt loading either
probably website fart
nvm its back
Akrec has always worked on mobile for me hadnt had issues
it was just slow to load in when i clicked ur link
so i went to a search engine
steep tartan
squid so smart holy heccles
gleaming lodge
anyway respect to u, for studding something smart
i got my dipl. ing. in undergr...
imo it's not wasted time
You learnt how to learn, that's the most important
Also, I don't think you should degrade yourself like this
Just because you're not a doctor/lawyer doesn't mean you're stupid
I can sit in a classroom and listen to the teacher, but I'm excessively clumsy
celest solstice
oh thats a huuuuuuuuuugely underdeveloped squad <:ExuHyperStare:6421420334058045...
Id love to lvl em up but I usually get side tracked with a good operator to e2 ahem mudrock
gleaming lodge
squid so smart holy heccles
gleaming lodge
So ture !
I have one (1) world record on CC#5 Spectrum w1 though
So that's enough for me
steep tartan
i wanna see :3
gleaming lodge
i wanna see :3
gleaming lodge
Have you tried #friend-id ?
steep tartan
https://youtu.be/W26GqMZ0PW4
thank you hon 
gleaming lodge
hon ?
glass monolith
anyone here have weedy S3 m3?
Third promotion of Weedy? If you need S3M3 and e2 60 module stage 1 is enough i can share Svbb#2321
livid delta
Hon hon baguette
steep tartan
oh sry if that was weird
glass monolith
If you need S1M3 Weedy.... I fucked up
deft field
Third promotion of Weedy? <:HellaKek:735650408340521020> If you need S3M3 and e...
omg
thanks
i already send u the request
coral haven
Third promotion of Weedy? <:HellaKek:735650408340521020> If you need S3M3 and e...
Just ping me if someone wants the best Weedy available.
coral haven
anyone here have weedy S3 m3?
I have weedy e2 90 modX lvl 3 s1m3 s2m3 s3m3
Too much for you?
deft field
:0
coral haven
LiPengun#7678
My weedy is under pot and I intend to stay that way like what happened with cc4, even if it’s very unlikely it would come up again.
This serves as a difference in some 0.00001% chance that someone might need to micromanage a max risk in the far future.
deft field
i send u the request
deft field
My weedy is under pot and I intend to stay that way like what happened with cc4,...
nice
coral haven
If it’s just pushing then any weedy s3m3 should do fine
ModX is just extra damage and dp return.
gleaming lodge
oh sry if that was weird <:ExuHyperStare:642142033405804574>
I just don't understand what you meant by that
steep tartan
oh umm it's just a phrase I use to be friendly heh 
gleaming lodge
Oh
Alright
I don't really get why I wouldn't like it then 
coral haven
Oh
Alright
I don't really get why I wouldn't like it then <:TaluThonk:5964168330...
It’s ok darling.
steep tartan
gnight squid, good to see you back 
coral haven
Shaw bottom lane
supple widget
turbid badge
ah abuse
turbid badge
borrowv
?
ohh thats really nice
exu
bring and exu and another marksmen like kroos or meteor
borrow mlynar makes last wave really easy
Qol is thorns
cuz hes unlimited skill and helps with drones aswell
supple widget
Id rather avoid support if possible so that I am able to proxy
turbid badge
Skalter s1 gaming
supple widget
Well I don't mind support if I just want the rewards I guess
turbid badge
have u tried the map?
if you fail u can restart
By closing app
it wont waste sanity
just bring along 2 marksmen
thats a must tbh since alot of snipers
Mean no drone will leak
wtf manfred died that fast
anyway that fucked up the run
cuz without manfred the cannon ho to slow
glass monolith
wtf manfred died that fast
Nice cannon charge