strategy

[scarlet ledge]

i think i can do cy brainded r23 strat @full finch

[latent monolith]

If you're bursting the boss you may be able to take enemy atk

[nocturne flame]

Well too late now since you guys told me to take the other one

[full finch]

the boss risk is just more HP for the boss

specifically it's more effective HP since you're not going to be tanking him anyway

[nocturne flame]

The goal is kill him before he can hit me

[full finch]

max nian on S2 survives 1 hit with boss3, atk3, and hpdown2

boss deals over 5500 damage

[nocturne flame]

Originally I had to use suzu+spalter, but now I am considering if doing it with saria+excessive rangers is better

[full finch]

very funni

[cyan gorge]

Hp down 3 is the easiest imo

[nocturne flame]

Welp now I must suffer trying to do difficulty 18 again

[full finch]

risk 18 gaming

[scarlet ledge]

kek im so glad player having hard time on cc perma this time

[full finch]

avengers always a good challenge for most people

and hg made one into a boss

[scarlet ledge]

prev cc is just cakewalk

[turbid badge]

@grand ginkgo

aa

[scarlet ledge]

what risk is tht

[turbid badge]

eighteen

idk what to do im lappdumbed

[fiery marsh]

How hard is this cc compared with previous ones btw? My First was 11

[turbid badge]

this works better

idk how well mizuki s2 compares to ethan

but just slow/bind

[scarlet ledge]

average difficulty since no free tags to choose and have good boss

cc11 have boring enemy

lots of free tags

can abuse middle lane

[turbid badge]

this ones a little hard ngl

newbie have to rely on mlynar strat

[scarlet ledge]

@turbid badge cc11 is dumb that tex2 solo it

lack of dangerous enemy and easy risk make that

[turbid badge]

cc11 was actually really easy

[scarlet ledge]

only dangerous enemy there is IC caster

[turbid badge]

Yeah

[scarlet ledge]

but you can delete it earlier

so no threat at all

[cyan gorge]

Fartooth moment

[turbid badge]

just dps check

💀

[scarlet ledge]

not even dps check

[turbid badge]

and dodge check

lmao

[scarlet ledge]

middle lane

solved it

[turbid badge]

oh yeah

[scarlet ledge]

by fucking drowing them

[turbid badge]

r18

u can just

drown them

[scarlet ledge]

cc12 have alot of threat

start with dog lane and sarkaz

mortar caster

three lane to worry

[turbid badge]

the threat is

alot yea

[scarlet ledge]

and the avenger

[turbid badge]

i have to deploy penuts last

Orrr

[scarlet ledge]

plus no free tags to get

[turbid badge]

monster keeps getting hit and my run ends

[scarlet ledge]

@turbid badge look at cc3

its difficult to but if u make strat

it will be easy

since lots of threat exist there

even without boss

u need to handle carefully juggling enemy

meanwhile cc11

same idea but enemy dont have threat

and tag making for it

[lethal dragon]

The world if reed S2 could land on summons and enmity ops

[full finch]

[latent monolith]

It can tho

It just can't heal them

[turbid badge]

it cant

lol

[lethal dragon]

It can't

[latent monolith]

[turbid badge]

dont tell me otherwise because ive done this for almost 30 minutes

[lethal dragon]

Shara is living in better world

Invite me please 🥺

[scarlet ledge]

easiest tag for cc12 is hp3 and -hp3

if u can burst boss when he is at 50% hp

its no problem

[latent monolith]

?

[turbid badge]

woops

i activated s3 too late

[scarlet ledge]

ruh uh

[turbid badge]

💀

oh well it doesnt go on summons

[scarlet ledge]

@turbid badge my alt clear

[turbid badge]

the secret really is kal s/

s2

i have the dps to make up for not using s3

[fiery marsh]

Ty for the opinion, as a newer player who enjoys some challange i wanted to know how i performed and How was the previous ccs that i will never experience. Well lets see How the new challanges will be

[turbid badge]

(able to actually deploy ifrit w/o 5 deployment limit) and ambusher to stall for their skills to cum back

[scarlet ledge]

@fiery marsh atleast u didnt experienced cc1 r18

[fiery marsh]

I actually wanted to fell

[turbid badge]

wasnt it angelina gated

[lethal dragon]

oh it only ignores summons

[latent monolith]

Summons don't work yeah

[fiery marsh]

Or was like, extremely unfair

[scarlet ledge]

tag is just yep

so you need well built squad for it

plus ops that time @fiery marsh

its not broken this era

[nocturne flame]

Welp I've uh, banged my head against risk 18 for several hours total now

[scarlet ledge]

looking at you uncle and etc

[fiery marsh]

Oh yeah, i heard of times where the 6* have a lot of limitations

Now we have Monsters like mylnar

[latent monolith]

I took uncle ban for r18

And hit my head against the wall until April suggested to borrow chalter instead of mostima

[scarlet ledge]

this took 3 days btw

just figuring shit out tag and ops

[latent monolith]

CC1 dalao

[lethal dragon]

Wah whel

[weak gazelle]

what is CC1?
the crownslayer one?

[lethal dragon]

Lol Mostima S2

[scarlet ledge]

i remember my heart beating

when i beat cs

at 3 am

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1095941766978469898.png?quality=lossless&size=64

[scarlet ledge]

cs tag is fucking awful

[fiery marsh]

That is the good felling

[weak gazelle]

cs huh
that the easy one for r18
welp idr much from it
it just those naruto runner really a headache to deal with

[scarlet ledge]

cs and wraiths is problem on cc1

@weak gazelle https://youtu.be/PbQutjdvMPw?si=4KYLk34WUkkR8iDf

im dumb

got wrong one

ignore the audio

[nocturne flame]

I keep dying before the boss even reaches me, the several hateful avengers are the real problem

[scarlet ledge]

what ur tag @nocturne flame ?

[nocturne flame]

and the mortar guys

[nocturne flame]

tag?

Do you mean this?

[scarlet ledge]

oh r3

ngl u can remove -aspd

if u having trouble

[nocturne flame]

Trying for SSS

[scarlet ledge]

ye changed it with something

@nocturne flame what ur ops btw

[dry skiff]

Ye aspd down is really bad

[nocturne flame]

Been running myrtle, exu, mountain, rosa, elysium, skalter, kal'tsit, chalter, and the last slot I've been experimenting with cause I keep failing

[scarlet ledge]

no shifter raised for r3 avenger tag?

[nocturne flame]

I have Weedy

I just haven't played with shifters very much

and I have specialists banned atm

[scarlet ledge]

ngl u can lower avenger r3 tag to r2 u might have prblem later on if u reach the boss

even u cross a waves on normal avenger

[nocturne flame]

Well atm I need to actually reach the normal one, I have been saving my s3s for the boss

Because I plan to burst him

Using them early costs the run regardless

[scarlet ledge]

dont forget boss invul kek

[fierce hawk]

Didn't realize modules were expensive asf draining lmd

[weak gazelle]

no suzu huh
well that understandable it will give nightmare even for r18

[fierce hawk]

Just bought 2 lvl 3 modules cost like 750K+ lmd

[dry skiff]

Bursting boss with the 20 sec invul risk

Ahh yes, that will work

[nocturne flame]

15, but yeah it sucks

[scarlet ledge]

u need mostima for it

[nocturne flame]

Not much better options to take

[dry skiff]

[scarlet ledge]

or very heavy tanking

[dry skiff]

You have Manticore?

[nocturne flame]

Not raised

[scarlet ledge]

just better take r2

avenger

[nocturne flame]

mk

[fierce hawk]

Pretty sure eunectus + skalter can tank the boss, if you add shining that should raise the chances

[nocturne flame]

eh eunectes tends to die before I get that far to the avengers

Guess Shining could work?

[fierce hawk]

Where did you place her?

[nocturne flame]

Underneath mountain in bottom left next to skalter

[fierce hawk]

Pic?

[nocturne flame]

underneath base point

[fierce hawk]

Ah yeah she can survive that

Add some lvls and maybe a module

[scarlet ledge]

my eune position is this

[nocturne flame]

Also if I remove aspd and reduce to r2 avenger I still need to raise stuff to reach 18 again

[scarlet ledge]

using r2 avenger and r1 atk+ tag

[nocturne flame]

Yeah the problem is need to raise it by 3 risk now

[scarlet ledge]

with r3 hp+ and -hp

[fierce hawk]

Eunectus s2

[nocturne flame]

I was told to get r3 avenger so r3 hp isn't on the table

[fierce hawk]

Can solo the boss

[weak gazelle]

i remember play suzu+exu+schwarz back then to kill cs but forgot at what risk i play

[scarlet ledge]

i have her but cant raise

[nocturne flame]

managed that once but now suzu dies to mortars most of the time

[scarlet ledge]

broke

that time

rushing mastery

[fierce hawk]

Kill mortar with sexas or yato alter

[nocturne flame]

I definitely don't have slot room for that

[foggy grove]

r3 avenger

[weak gazelle]

no wonder when i see your ceobe and mostima still e1

[scarlet ledge]

who hold dog lane?

[nocturne flame]

Mountain

[scarlet ledge]

oh

[nocturne flame]

and exu

[scarlet ledge]

did you see mostima s2 stun?

[scarlet ledge]

i see

u could probably do chalter there instead
but ye you need to worry about timing instead

remove exu

[nocturne flame]

That wont work due to range limitations

I have exu in the far bottom left

I have chalter to the right of mountain

[weak gazelle]

no i didnt see it

[fierce hawk]

you can do a similar strat like this @nocturne flame

[scarlet ledge]

good

abusing reed s2

[nocturne flame]

I literally have one of said units

well 2

[fierce hawk]

you can replace gavial with blaze and just put her behind skalter

hoshi can be changed to eunectus s2 just raise your eunectus abit

[nocturne flame]

What tags do I take in this case

[turbid badge]

gravel s2

s1 better

smh

cuz all these hp risks

make my gravel into 💩

[fierce hawk]

if you want to use s3 on eunectus make sure to replace reed with a slow unit preferrably mostima

[scarlet ledge]

use r2 avenger

r3 invul is uhh for u

[fierce hawk]

make sure you have warf though she will make sure your tank doesnt die

[nocturne flame]

I normally need kal'tsit instead to hold top lane and save slots

[scarlet ledge]

bro idk how will survive invul

[fierce hawk]

dont use kalt as replacement for shoshiguma

she wont hold

[nocturne flame]

huh?

Kal can solo top lane

[scarlet ledge]

plus avenger boss is jacked on r3

[nocturne flame]

yeah I can't take hp 3.

[fierce hawk]

you can take r3 on boss?

it will still work

eunectes is literally the strongest solo block tank

[foggy grove]

i'd rather take hp 3 if i want to burst

[turbid badge]

it probably can work if im smart enugh and but too lazy now dusk just freeling him inside the box after stalling a bit

[nocturne flame]

Somehow make it through most of the stage only to wind up leaking a dog because I had to remove exu

[vernal lion]

when you realize these shits are harder than a max Hoshi

fuck the 2 atk risks lol

[high crest]

Is it impossible with 50 percent attack buff

[vernal lion]

it always can, but with enough HPS tho

the boss always sweeps your Hoshi left with ~20% HP

[high crest]

With level 2 HP down though......

[vernal lion]

yes, you can

[high crest]

Oh ok thanks

[vernal lion]

btw, Hoshi needs dodge RNG if you want this goes smoothly

so you should add an op with stun or sleep effect to make it easy

Weedy s1, Erato s1 are all good

[cyan gorge]

Isn't boss sleep immune?

[high crest]

I can't do that then cause my setup is with 4 medics for hoshi

[vernal lion]

ah yes boss immune to sleep

so Chen s1 ?

[cyan gorge]

Sail s3 or Gnosis s1 would be better

[vernal lion]

for afk clear, you just need enough HPS tho

W works too

[high crest]

I used like the hospital to keep hoshi barely alive

[cyan gorge]

I feel like stacking atk up and atk down makes it needlessly harder for simply r18

[vernal lion]

btw if you want to use Mousse, she needs s1m3 lol

[dry skiff]

Or Flame Shadow

[nocturne flame]

After another hour of suffering

I finally made it to just the boss

and Eunectes on s2 hardly did anything to him and I only got him to nearly dead not counting the revive when he was unstunned and one tapped her and mountain

[turbid badge]

yeah ima chill now

stressful😫

[nocturne flame]

Welp guess I have to give up

It's midnight

I wasted literally my entire evening on this

[vernal lion]

when you realize the boss hit harder than Patriot itself

[turbid badge]

timing is fucking my tun up

[tidal sedge]

hey yall can anyone suggest some good suggestions for left lane that isnt Mountain?

for cc12 risk 18 ofc

[sullen rover]

kal s2m3 held it with atk down and aspd down mud should also work

[tidal sedge]

oof i dont have them either

[sullen rover]

you can try a defender + dps

[tidal sedge]

squad limit :(

wait

[tidal sedge]

how on earth did you do that in time

kal is like cost 28

[sullen rover]

bagpipe myrtle

[tidal sedge]

what modifiers did you use if i may ask

[sullen rover]

let me just ss mine rq

here

[tidal sedge]

idk how the heck everyone didnt die from this alone lol

what squad were u usin

[sullen rover]

the dumb afk guide squad with some modifies

[tidal sedge]

lemme guess blaze next to mtryle in the middle lane

dang

i always see blaze in that spot or mountain in left

[cyan gorge]

Penance, Mud, Kal s3, Spalter

[tidal sedge]

mud and penance would be great if i could get her down in time before the dog gets there even with max m3 myrtle it isnt enough dp in time

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion pro

[cyan gorge]

Yeah you need pioneer or Bag to block early dogs

Cantabile works too

[scarlet ledge]

kek i love when nian s2 got swiped by red

[tidal sedge]

may i see the squad u used pls & thx

just trunna get an idea what to replace in such a limited squad size

[cyan gorge]

Suzu works better here than Gnosis, you can drop NTRK entirely with a maxed Kal

[tidal sedge]

[sullen rover]

just pick other risks if you cant deal w 5 op squad

[tidal sedge]

7 op squad

[cyan gorge]

I did deploy limit

[tidal sedge]

that makes a lot more sense lol

im trynna help my freind who;s like realllyyyyyy tilted cuz their blem they leveled cant hold that Left lane

[fringe jackal]

For hoshi stall it is best to take hp enemy buffs over attack

[tidal sedge]

and they sorta burnt all their resources on her

so like

yeah

which im honestly shocked Bleminshine cant hold that lane

[cyan gorge]

The 3 phases of my strat

[tidal sedge]

ah i see

yeah fr tho like blem even with skadi alter s2 max buff

cannot hold that left lane

why

[vernal lion]

because of atk down

bruh

[turbid badge]

lmao ill just wait for kal mod

and this will be a piece of cake

[vernal lion]

me with my cake belike

[tidal sedge]

lol thats the best strat

i see everyone using that for those who have it

[vernal lion]

year 1 op, with Skalter and Mountain

enough for R18

[tidal sedge]

my fren tries replacing blaze with chongyue, and mountain with blem

cuz they dont have those two units

[turbid badge]

im trying these risks

[vernal lion]

I'm more questioning about, how can you get R3 when the game want you to beat R18 first

[cyan gorge]

If your tank can't also kill the mobs fast enough, you need to bring a burst dps to compensate

[vernal lion]

[turbid badge]

the 5 sec stun is so good

[foggy grove]

it's total risk not risk 18

you can do it one by one if you want

[turbid badge]

woops i mean 4*

[tidal sedge]

there's gotta be someone cheaper than mud/penance that isnt mountain that can hold that lane, theres gotta be sommmmmmmmmeoooooooneee

[turbid badge]

idk if i wanna mod kal just for this but honestly

this is the more “fun” module

[vernal lion]

imagine not beating R18 after unlocking R10

[foggy grove]

[cyan gorge]

Spalter or Kal probably your best alternatives

[glass monolith]

Hey, who called me out

[turbid badge]

lol

[turbid badge]

just use kal lil

[tidal sedge]

Kall + monster is the same cost lol

[turbid badge]

no way ur struggling with dp worse than me right💀

[cyan gorge]

You can easily get her out + Penance before mortars with Myrtle + Cantabile/second flag

[sullen rover]

the kuv comp

[tidal sedge]

but who on earth do u replace in the squad

ik u using deploy limit

[turbid badge]

yeah dusk s3 stall p2 until all my skills are back comp

[tidal sedge]

but they do NOT have the units to replace

[cyan gorge]

Again, I brought deploy limit risk
I have 13 squad slots to work with

[tidal sedge]

they use Chong for middle lane

remmeber

[glass monolith]

I have 1 operator to hold casters/trash, 2 to infinitely stall ultimate weeb, and 10 to fucking fail at holding dogs and normal weebs

[tidal sedge]

not blaze

they dont have blaze

luckily i had a blaze so my clear was able to use that but not them cuz they cant

[turbid badge]

who r they borrowing

[tidal sedge]

skalter otherwise hoshi likely dies to Red

they have shining and hoshi

they doing that forever stall thing

its the other lanes that give them trouble

[turbid badge]

what

how

?))

u dont need her

[cyan gorge]

You'd be better off using Surtr to burst

[tidal sedge]

damage isnt an issue either lol

its just that darn left lane

[cyan gorge]

Kal solos

[turbid badge]

kal solos

[sullen rover]

then borrow for the left lane

[turbid badge]

mountain can aswell? right

[tidal sedge]

they tried a few times for that but without skalter his max hoshi and max shining cant stall the guy

[turbid badge]

is he picking atk 2

[tidal sedge]

no lol

[glass monolith]

(Pick atk 3, dogs with 666 ATK is fun

[turbid badge]

Huh

is hoshi moduleless

+20% defense lets her live

[tidal sedge]

nah max hoshi

as in module too

same with the shining

[cyan gorge]

Again, less focus on tanking, more focus on burst

[turbid badge]

wtf

[cyan gorge]

makes your life 100% easier

[tidal sedge]

my reaction too

thats why they insist on bringing skalter

[turbid badge]

what risk he take in all

[sullen rover]

yeah just throw mlynar and drop bodies on red if you cant tank

[vernal lion]

ngl man,
2 atk risks with r2 hp down is almost killing a max Hoshi

[vernal lion]

[turbid badge]

the kyostin special

oh geez

Just use shining s3 , do u really need to permastall

[vernal lion]

as long as it works

[turbid badge]

[tidal sedge]

we're gonna assume they borrow mountain

[cyan gorge]

If you're going to take the tank route, just pass on atk up risks

[tidal sedge]

so no attack ups

even with health downs u sure max hoshi and max shining can do it? for them to borrow a mountain?

[cyan gorge]

just don't stack those and boss risks

[vernal lion]

yes

just don't take atk risk lol

[tidal sedge]

can u give me an example fo what risks to take then

cuz uh

[vernal lion]

have you unlocked any R3 yet

[cyan gorge]

Mine

[tidal sedge]

not me, but yeh they unlocked a few

oh wow even with -55% hp huh?

[cyan gorge]

I only need to tank a few hits of boss anyways, Nian survives just long enough with skill up + Ptilo s2

Surt does the rest

[tidal sedge]

now just to clarify you thinking shining s3 or s2

obv the hoshi is s2

[vernal lion]

hoshi can tank 2 of R1 atk risks, no problem tho

the same to R2 boss, or R2 atk up

[tidal sedge]

i mean hey like i said they tried that already and i swear it kept dying without skalter helping

[vernal lion]

me, with 2 atk up and R2 hp down:

[tidal sedge]

and ur hoshi permastalled with that?

[vernal lion]

with dodge RNG tho

jesus

[tidal sedge]

im gonna go with zenith's idea

[vernal lion]

I was coping for this kek

yea you can go with his strat

mine is like for challenge a bit

[tidal sedge]

ight so if this really does let max shinign s2 and max hoshi s2 stall, he can for sure fit his own dps even with deploy 5 limit. but it has to do that

[vernal lion]

I want to try if Hoshi can survive in high atk up risk

ok so this is my clear, and op

[tidal sedge]

we said without Skalter dumdum!!!

[vernal lion]

now that's the issue

[tidal sedge]

exactly lmao

[vernal lion]

because def buff is good

[tidal sedge]

thats the issue we trunna solve

[cyan gorge]

I mean sure if Hoshi + Shining can replace Nian + Reedic and Ptilo

[foggy grove]

just don't take atk up risk

[cyan gorge]

Also my strat was never stall, it was just tank a few hits while Surt + Reedic burst

[foggy grove]

even 60 hoshi skalterless

survive just fine

[vernal lion]

atk up make the boss hit like x2 dmg, so yea

[tidal sedge]

so NO boss attak up and NO regular attack up

[foggy grove]

boss atk up

no regular atk up

[tidal sedge]

ah which one

risk 1 or risk 2

[foggy grove]

r2 boss

[tidal sedge]

gotcha

[foggy grove]

she can take that

[tidal sedge]

you used the 5 deploy limit too?

[foggy grove]

you can

[tidal sedge]

no skalter?

[foggy grove]

either works

i can do 5 deploy or squad

[tidal sedge]

cool cool altho i should remention they arent using blaze for middle lane

theyre trying to use chong but if u have another suggestion

[foggy grove]

chong will need some helps before he charge up

[turbid badge]

chong?

im scared he’”ll leak

[cyan gorge]

We've already told you good alternatives like 5 times

[tidal sedge]

yes yes for left lane

[turbid badge]

but just try anyways

[tidal sedge]

im talkign middle lane now

[vernal lion]

if you want chongyue, you need to not pick hp up risk and atk down risk lol

[scarlet ledge]

mine is this

[vernal lion]

scuff

[turbid badge]

waow noice

[foggy grove]

don't take atk down that will just straight up murder him

[cyan gorge]

For middle, Penance is ideal

[tidal sedge]

its like the only thhing they have that can reach over to the Weeb lane

[scarlet ledge]

wdym

its chanka ideal

[turbid badge]

yea penance solos for me

if i Pick hp 2 she has chance to leak

1-3

[scarlet ledge]

main acc clear is this

[cyan gorge]

Maybe cause my Pen pretty stacked, I just barely don't leak on aspd down

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dipis1oTaj0&ab_channel=ILoveAmiya

have you watched this?

[scarlet ledge]

ye

kek

@vernal lion r3 avenger invul is just uhh

you really need to use mostima there

[vernal lion]

I will try to stall

no one does that

[glass monolith]

Just make some scuffed bullshit where you manage to pull of Specter S2 before boss reach her

[tidal sedge]

ight one more question. what do you think is worse here. i see you picked attack speed, but wouldnt an atk down be better?

[cyan gorge]

Hopeful the tier 3 boss risk will be manageable once I finish Cliff masteries tommorrow

[turbid badge]

ima try to get Kal module

[cyan gorge]

aspd down is less shit imo

[turbid badge]

[glass monolith]

Attack down is never better if you using physical damage because you first get your damage cut to nothing, then enemy defend that shit on top

[turbid badge]

aspd down fucks me hard cuz kals grandma speed healing

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledge
I wonder if Hoshi dodge stack better with Deepcolor s2m3 ?

[tidal sedge]

lol yeah exactly im worried about shining and other healers getting slower heals

[vernal lion]

because I have her

[turbid badge]

eh ur team if Alot of defense

[scarlet ledge]

ngl idk

try it

[turbid badge]

It shouldnt be that impactful

[tidal sedge]

good point

[cyan gorge]

I should do Deepcolor s2m3

[vernal lion]

but you saw that ILA with Deepcolor dodge tho @scarlet ledge

it's incredible

[lethal dragon]

Mhm just watched it

[vernal lion]

not to say he did pick R3 boss

and R3 atk up

LMAO

[pearl musk]

To do caster and specialist ban I just need surtr and mlynar to dps the boss right. Penance to lanehold so 5 deployment limit is easy right

[fair wasp]

Is this a good strat or should i add something?

[foggy grove]

you know it's bad when you are leaking

[fierce hawk]

cc 24 is hard asf with nuke comp lkasjdlkajdasd

any ideas?

[high crest]

Shaw face up with the enemies in top so she can push them to the hole and at least skill lvl 4 if I'm correct

[ionic mortar]

Can I get help with 7-12

I am not sure what is a good block placement

[foggy grove]

just funnel them to one lane

kill the herald with yato

[steep tartan]

does anyone have a link to a max risk cc4 clear of the map with 20 tiles banned

[grand ginkgo]

Would e2 roberta work actually

[glass monolith]

If boss was doing 1 attack every 10 seconds. Sadly he isn't

[grand ginkgo]

Leaks in anni = bad because leak = no max reward

you also might struggle againts a later wave because it will just go past your defences unblocked

[grand ginkgo]

but saving up like 3-4 devices to tank 6-8 hits?

[glass monolith]

She can hold up to 3 max and they are lasting 15 seconds or 2 hits. and they are affected by redeploy tag

Tank 3 hit - 2 with device, 1 with roberta face, is just winning time so your Specter S2 charge up

[grand ginkgo]

oh right redeploy tag

well if her shields can tank you like 4 hits + 1 with herself seems like a win enough ngl

[ionic mortar]

?

[glass monolith]

What the fuck

[foggy grove]

that's not one lane

[glass monolith]

Also this 3 roadblock lane makes no sense as middle roadblock already blocking crossroad entirely

[foggy grove]

i misplaced chong but you get the gist

technically you can do 0 ops but i cba to figure it out

[ionic mortar]

Wouldn't they go like this if that block wasn't there

[glass monolith]

My question is: What purpose of block above and below it?????

[ionic mortar]

Oh...

Didn't think that through to be honest

[dry skiff]

Damn
That's alot of unnecessary roadblock

[ionic mortar]

Like this?

[minor willow]

on R.A, theres a project requirement to "upgrade 2 nodes to sentries in single round" is this those conflict node that has one high hp enemy base that can be attacked?
and 2nd, can i transregional communication resources like wood, stones, and iron ore? last time i have transregional, its only save provisions

[foggy grove]

mud in front chong would've been better but it's fine

mud is a big gurl

[ionic mortar]

Got it

[versed arrow]

did this a long time ago, iirc the maze I saw was funnel through the red tile and they pass through the bottom-center blue box, myrtle was the only entrance to the right blue box and the enemy to the left box die by themselves due to the red tile effect

[foggy grove]

letting them die by altars and tile is the gist of 0 ops

[glass monolith]

[ionic mortar]

Anyways

[heady hedge]

use mlynar

[dry skiff]

Use Angelina

[ionic mortar]

Oh the deed it done

Now I am struggling with 9-12

[glass monolith]

You have interesting relation with number 12 it seems

[ionic mortar]

Yeah...it so usually the 12th stage that gets me

I am having trouble dealing with the flying enemies in 9-12

[foggy grove]

you have gnosis right

and kroosalter

stun/frozen/sleep make the hover fall

[ionic mortar]

Oh, they can fall unlike the drones?

[foggy grove]

yeah

[ionic mortar]

So a team like this

[foggy grove]

sure

you can use gnosis s1

[ionic mortar]

S1 does what, I forgot

[foggy grove]

attack twice so it's insta frozen
overcharged s2 achieve the same thing

so prolly doesn't matter

[ionic mortar]

Oh

Ok then

I should funnel them into 1 lane yes?

[foggy grove]

ye

[polar crane]

now do cm

[ionic mortar]

Thanks I did it

Normal

[vernal lion]

CM is easy, trust

[glass monolith]

.... Why the fuck they banned that tile next to thorns?

Who on earth redirect enemies there

[dry skiff]

Ew m*les

[misty bane]

guys, help me get to Al-Rafiq, I did everything I needed, took the quest from the Passenger, but he doesn’t appear on the map, destroyed the items for ending 2, still doesn’t help, does it depend on the luck of the NPC’s appearance or am I doing something wrong

I understand that I need to hope in God for this clown to appear on the map?

[celest solstice]

hi guys need help with 10-11 adverse, is this enough?

and how should I deal with the right side

oops wrong team

[brisk pollen]

from my experience, yato2 really complements with texas2

[celest solstice]

I do not have texas

texas alter

I do have texas, but its e0

[brisk pollen]

yato2 can reach places texas2 normally cant and texas2 can hold down the enemies for yato2 to dance

and phantom belongs to the bench castle

[celest solstice]

so yeah, back to my main problem

[brisk pollen]

sadge

[celest solstice]

10-11 adverse

[polar crane]

penance is probably not needed

[celest solstice]

I have more units like shamare

are ya sure

[polar crane]

canon will probably kill her shield

[celest solstice]

penance can live against shield

[polar crane]

do you have ifrit?

[celest solstice]

nah

[polar crane]

you need something to kill those slug fast

[celest solstice]

I have eyja

[polar crane]

if they stack the sword guy will just kill mud

[celest solstice]

Im not sure if exusiai will work

[polar crane]

make sure eyja doesn't get kill by cannon

exu work

[celest solstice]

wait who supports where

[cyan gorge]

Penance good into cannon as long as she has consistent fodder

[polar crane]

kal bottom and mudrock top

[celest solstice]

anything else necessary to know?

I can do a practice run

[polar crane]

they have chain caster so dont stack

and that's it

[celest solstice]

yeah Its not working

[polar crane]

bring gravel or something to bait chain caster attack if that help

[celest solstice]

anyways did it thanks

[polar crane]

[scarlet mortar]

it prevents you from funnelling everything through the originium tile

[north widget]

who should I e2 nxt?

[sinful flame]

Silverash > Amiya > Mudrock/ Lappland

[echo shell]

the later event stages we still need lappdumb ?

[cyan gorge]

SN rerun

[echo shell]

oh yeah he need might need to use bubble/hoshigumi

[keen mortar]

starting an account during Stultifera Navis was a bad time

[spiral prism]

Is there any basic important advice for fire in the sand

[soft crystal]

Frds frds frds build your base, quit when youre failing an incomming raid onto your base

[dusky burrow]

Hmm how do you farm stones and metal in the fits event?

is ther a special construct farming them just like wood or is it with OP only

Starting the event today hoping I'll finish that in time

[unreal oar]

Need help with CC risk 18 this is who ive got

[cyan gorge]

Level 1 Yato and Mud

[unreal oar]

what do you mean lvl 1. they're E2 are they not? (my most recent operators) (also how does pointing this out help me)

[cyan gorge]

You can stall boss near infinitum with Manticore + Gladiia s1 (needs m3 I believe)

[unreal oar]

raising ops is expensive yo

im not even reaching Red

i get beat up before he shows up

[cyan gorge]

Kal borrow solos dog and fighter lane

[unreal oar]

[cyan gorge]

only if you don't take atk down or any atk up risks

[unreal oar]

do you have a demonstration or me

[cyan gorge]

#strategy message

[unreal oar]

i see tripple flagguard

[cyan gorge]

You can probably drop Sail, she's mainly for s3 stun

[unreal oar]

i only have golden apple girl

[cyan gorge]

A pioneer or cantabile can replace second flag

[unreal oar]

[glass monolith]

Cantabile replaces need for DP for me

At least if map is not b-

[cyan gorge]

only issue is you can't deploy second dps (Pozy in my case) without the 3rd dp source

before artillery spawns

cause Penance needs to come last

unless your pioneer can handle middle lane for a few seconds

[unreal oar]

... atillery?

[cyan gorge]

mortars

from chap 7

[unreal oar]

ah

[glass monolith]

Thanks god there was no Inspire enemies on map

[polar crane]

what inspire I forgor

[foggy grove]

we need herald

fr

[glass monolith]

Chapter 7 mechanic, boss and banner guy give buffs to all inspire shit, basic enemy hits harder, mortal +40 or +50 attack speed, ranged boys attack 2 targets while inspired

[unreal oar]

tbh your screenshot only give me the roughest idea of what i need to do i appreciate them but its too little for me to understan

[polar crane]

oh yeah those guy

[cyan gorge]

I can try to record

[unreal oar]

[cyan gorge]

Just gotta find a NTRK s2 in my support
e2 60 kal just barely not enough

[unreal oar]

i don have either

[cyan gorge]

If borrowed Kal is maxed, NTRK completely unnecessary

[unreal oar]

[cyan gorge]

screw it, I'll have to dump whatever exp I have into mine

[unreal oar]

[cosmic thicket]

no im p sure u can take some

this is what i took for r18 and i used e2 level 60 s3m3 kal to hold left

[cyan gorge]

Holy shit I had to do some funky timings just to get e2 70 Kal to work

[cosmic thicket]

what

what r u cooking

i just pressed s3 every time a sarkaz dude showed up

[unreal oar]

[cyan gorge]

That's exactly what I did, but I had to press skill early so weeb doesn't pop her mod 2 talent before I want it to

[frigid kite]

[unreal oar]

not sure if my mudmud can hold top
not sure what i should substitute Pozy with
no idea at all what to stall/dps Red with

[cyan gorge]

any consistent stun/slow/bind

Ethan is a good choice but you'd have to take suppoter/guard ban

[unreal oar]

angi, manticore, gnosis

[cyan gorge]

Gnosis s1 was what I originally used over Suzu and it worked, just to a slightly lesser degree

Pozy alternatives I've tried were guard Ch'en and Fartooth

[unreal oar]

dont have em

[cyan gorge]

Schwarz might work

[unreal oar]

_ _

[cyan gorge]

alternatively, replace Gnosis with another dps

actually

just use Gladiia

[unreal oar]

these?

[cyan gorge]

Look fine to me

my exact risks, just different bans

[cosmic thicket]

You're letting the weebs actually get there? I see

[unreal oar]

what else to bring

[cosmic thicket]

I just group them then chalter them

[cyan gorge]

I don't have much in the way of alternative methods

no chalter moment

[cosmic thicket]

Chalter is my borrow

[cyan gorge]

I borrowed NTRK originally, only cause I had to block both the last fighter and the last red weeb near the end and monst3r kept dying

[cosmic thicket]

Oh

[cyan gorge]

I just had to adjust skill timing but it was still rough

[cyan gorge]

another strong medic

[cosmic thicket]

you have angelina right

what mastery is her s2

[cyan gorge]

Perf alone is not keeping Cuora alive

[unreal oar]

support ban tag

[cosmic thicket]

oh

[unreal oar]

no mastery

[cosmic thicket]

oh

[tidal sedge]

Guys...

[cosmic thicket]

i banned caster spec so i can't really comment here

[cyan gorge]

Keep in mind, my Nian was barely kept alive even with ptilo s2m3 blasting

[foggy grove]

bring your e2 l1 yato

[unreal oar]

wisper or warf?

[tidal sedge]

what a time to test the RNG Funni run

[cyan gorge]

Warf

[cosmic thicket]

yeah i like warf better

[cyan gorge]

burst healing always better

[unreal oar]

two seats remaining on this rollercoaster

[cyan gorge]

Yato

[cosmic thicket]

mudrock is for midlane right

[cyan gorge]

[cosmic thicket]

no no he's cooking

[unreal oar]

[cyan gorge]

Just bring your strongest dps or another medic for last slot

I'm not sure Mud is capable of holding mid without leaking at that level

[unreal oar]

fair

[cyan gorge]

if she was like level 40 or 50 maybe

[cosmic thicket]

how do u plan to kill avenger unless ur just gonna do the funny pull stall

[cyan gorge]

Stall + Kal s3?

[cosmic thicket]

doesn't redblade brutalize monster

[cyan gorge]

Pull him back before he gets blocked

[cosmic thicket]

oh

that sounds finnicky

[cyan gorge]

yes but not much other choice

with the options there

[clever crest]

Depending on how many Attack ups/Hp downs Monster can take a single hit from Red iirc

[cyan gorge]

Unless Ceobe and Schwarz can do it

[unreal oar]

i suppose these are my hardest hitters for the job?

[cyan gorge]

Ceobe

[unreal oar]

[fathom jay]

-40 aspd risk taken

[cyan gorge]

Bring a frd in case mud leaks

[unreal oar]

replacing who

[cyan gorge]

Perf or Whisperain

Actually if doing stall, you probably don't need Cuora

[unreal oar]

how do i set the stall up

[cyan gorge]

Gladiia facing in Manticore range

afk

[glass monolith]

Step 1. Manticore. Step 2. Gladiia
THEN LEAVE
#strategy message

[unreal oar]

[glass monolith]

Assuming both are M3, works both without and with attack speed risk

[unreal oar]

that stall looks hilarious

no they are not M3

[glass monolith]

M3 on gladiia must for pull force

Probably must

[unreal oar]

pullforce upgrades at M3?

[glass monolith]

As far as i know all pull/push gain another force on M3

[unreal oar]

dang it does

[glass monolith]

I M9ed Gladiia for no real reason on UT rerun

[cosmic thicket]

Shaw S2 is the only exception I know

Not counting stuff like wild mane s2

[glass monolith]

Fuck this game has exception for literally any statement i make

[green frost]

https://krooster.com/u/ACOG Can someone help me make a team for tackling risk 18 on the current CC?

[glass monolith]

Maybe someone in #cc-central knows. Looks doable, just i don't have experience with most of those characters to say how

Maybe some Podenco, Manticore S1, Gladiia S2, friend support some pusher madness

[green frost]

Gotcha', I'll toss it in there too. Thanks!

[turbid badge]

gonan get kal mod

[vernal lion]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[cosmic thicket]

wtf

does stainless turret dmg reduction stack?

[vernal lion]

yes

[cosmic thicket]

what the hell

actually cooking

[vernal lion]

40% DR

[cosmic thicket]

this is for r18 right

[vernal lion]

yes

R2 boss, R1 atk up, R2 hp down

I will cook for higher risk tho

[cosmic thicket]

good job for making an afk clear look funny

[fast pivot]

At what point can Mountain hold the left lane? The highest I can manage atm is Risk16 with a support Mylnar. If I add the atk up, Mountain dies and if I add the hp, mountain can't kill fast enough to avoid leaking. E1 lvl 70

[cosmic thicket]

e1 level 70 is kind of

[cyan gorge]

Probably cause dodge rng from e2 that he survives

[cosmic thicket]

masteries give him increased hp regen too

and ofc more attack

[cyan gorge]

Basically e1 isn't gonna cut it

[unreal oar]

my mudmud and schwarz are not strong enough

[fathom jay]

Don't take the atk up, just time Mlynar's skill activation.

First few dogs can be blocked even by vanguards with a little help. Then you wait until the 1st weeb comes close to the unit that holds the left side and activate Mlynar's skill. It'll kill everyone including that Sarkaz claw guy

Then you pretty much use it every time as soon as it goes off cooldown until you start stalling the boss

In my case left side was held by myrtle, courier & gnosis (first ~5 dogs), then I swapped courier with cardigan and retreated both myrtle and gnosis

[fast pivot]

Yeah, I've played around with the tags a bit. But dealing with the rush of dogs before first mylnar activation is where i'm having trouble. Would it be worth it to try and get the e2 mountain? Or should I put some resources into Vigna, Utabe and/or Courier? (Texas just can't handle the dogs hits unfortunately.)

[cyan gorge]

Texas squishy, Fang/Courier better for tanking dogs

[glass monolith]

First time ever when having E2 Siege would assist me and i failed

[polar crane]

for me I just drop exu asap to kill dog then myrtle later

[fathom jay]

If you're not short on op slots, you can just bring someone like yato alter to help killing them

[fast pivot]

i'm taking the caster/specialist ban tag since i'm using Mountain left lane. Spectre stall and Quibai S3 for 2nd phase

Myrtle, Quibai my only e2s

[fathom jay]

Then yeah, can try any good sniper

Myrtle & Mountain can stall 3 dogs already, so with a bit of help it should be easy. Deploy Myrtle as close to the top left red box as possible

[turbid badge]

??

fang and e1 texas states are basically identical

[turbid badge]

courier tanking dogs yea

but with all the r18 risks

he gonna do nothing so

You mkght as well use a begter laneholder and jsut use myrtle

or u really need 2 dp than sure

[eager gate]

Incredible
Even salviento karst stops being fun with -50atk

[silver coral]

i want to clear ending to get medal for reclaimation algorithm. what's the easiest way to do that?

which ending? what team comp? what base layout?
best results for minimal effort?

[alpine flare]

facilities survive to next round, so build portable planting first until 12

next light up line 2 in persperity , then u can get 30 woods & 10 rock for free at starting
build pumpies, get some water, build fortification I
now u can build firm platforms for free

[orchid talon]

I haven’t pushed the reclamation algorithm that much yet, but I’ve had a lot of success making a long funnel and using ifrit at the end of it

And dropping executors to take out catapults

[wise perch]

so uh what bs do u need for high risk

in terms of push/pullers/stallers I have m0 mod2 mostima, cliffheart s3m1, spalter s2m3 mod3, manticore s1m2mod1

[shut siren]

whats the best strat for cc? my goal is to reach risk 21 by the end of cc, is the strat just stalling with pushers like weedy?

[wise perch]

from what I know it's stall centred around spalter

[shut siren]

spalter?

hmm

[wise perch]

idk about weedy tho cus her cooldown is rlly long

I think u wanna just keep pulling stuff away from the blue box while spalter is permanently dead with the aoe arts damage+slow directly in front of it

that's the idea at least

[shut siren]

im not fully sure if it'd be possible for me to reach risk 21 with the ops i have because im still kinda newish

[wise perch]

ah

[shut siren]

although i have some meta ops

[wise perch]

good luck with that I guess

cc tends to be not very meta at times
stall meta is quite different from big number meta

[shut siren]

i have dorothy chalter and saria, and they can all slow

would they be decent for stall?

[cyan gorge]

Either specialist stall or tank and burst with Surtr/Mlynar is usually the two paths I see

[shut siren]

i do have surtr so maybe i could do that

i made it to risk 17 by using chalter and surtr but i had to keep dropping in units to block the boss even if they werent helidrop units, it was kinda scuffed lmao

[cyan gorge]

You kinda either need a high invested tank or kill boss phase 1 without blocking him

[shut siren]

i can maybe kill phase 1 off the bat?

i can chalter and surtr him at the top

im not sure if that would kill

maybe not

maybe pozy? but im not sure if theres a good pozy tile

[cyan gorge]

with redeploy risk, Surtr wouldn't be up in time when boss gets to blue box

[shut siren]

ah i forgot about that

[cyan gorge]

also it's hard to burst him early unless you take someone like Yato2

in that case you would have to take guard ban

[shut siren]

i also have yato

that ban risk is quite annoying lmao

[cyan gorge]

I think specialist ban is more manageable for r18 unless you have the tools to stall

which I assume you don't

[shut siren]

i dont think i do, could i send u my roster and u suggest which ban i take?

[cyan gorge]

Unless you have an m3 puller/m3 pusher, Manticore, high level mod3 Spalter, it's usually better to do specialist ban

[shut siren]

yeah i guess ill go with specialst ban then LMAO

i have none of those

except a level 1 manticore

[cyan gorge]

#strategy message This was the strat I brought shown in 3 phases

[shut siren]

ill try something similar and pray that it works, tysm! 🙏

[cyan gorge]

I have a video of it around here too but I don't feel like bringing it up again

[ashen shadow]

[keen mortar]

I made the sheet but it's too late

[sly drift]

Is there any ops that can solo left lane. Duo atleasu

Using these risks

[cunning river]

Is it me or is Fiametta's S3 kinda trash

[keen mortar]

yea these can risk 28 iirc

[cunning river]

I've only tried using it once now I've got her, but it's like there's moment for her to fire it

[sly drift]

S3 mountain Cooldown can handle it?

[cyan gorge]

Just you

[sly drift]

Isnt s3 cd like 40s?

[keen mortar]

well you will have to alternate between mountain and gavialter

[cunning river]

How are you supposed to use it, she basically auto dies the moment you click it

[cyan gorge]

She doesn't die, she never goes below 1 hp cause of her talent

she dies if you have bad positioning

[cunning river]

That is very much not true

[sly drift]

Fia can't die of her talent

[clever kernel]

[sly drift]

If she dies it means something hit her

[cunning river]

She was out of the way and didn't have anyone aiming at her, still died

[latent monolith]

Do you have a video

[cyan gorge]

Sounds like skill issue then

[sly drift]

Pay attention to splash damage

[ashen shadow]

just use s2 tbh

[keen mortar]

it's like fiammetastatic abberation in is3!11!1!!

[cunning river]

I don't think anything on this rotation has splash damage, except the crabs which she was out of range of

[sly drift]

What stage exactly

[cunning river]

Current CC rotation

[clever kernel]

So is the game bugged then?

[sly drift]

The eggs?

[cunning river]

Yeah, those she was out of range of

[cyan gorge]

There are spitter that do ranged damage that go around top

probably those

[cunning river]

So it couldn't have been those

And there were no enemies close to her

[sly drift]

Eggs have s2 Saria range splash. Don't underestimate eggs

[surreal star]

if you could send a video, that would be better proof

[cyan gorge]

Regardless, it's impossible for Fia to die to her own talent

[sly drift]

Send your positioning.maybe we can have better understanding

[latent monolith]

Her hp loss is also based on current hp so it's slower the lower she's at

[sly drift]

Will we have another class ban risk on 2nd week?

My comp forced me to use risk1 class. My comp dies without guard or specialist

[sly drift]

Your fia on eggs range

[latent monolith]

It's not out of range

[cunning river]

I also put Pozy on the same range previous attempt and it didn't happen

Istg the fucking ranges in this game are stupid

[sly drift]

Nonono.. you need better understanding about eggs reflect range

It's fixed

With no risk. I think eggs range is the same as Texas vanguard S2

Your fia on that range

[cyan gorge]

No she's for sure in egg range

[surreal star]

mine is taking damage

if you think pozy isn’t taking damage you might want to recheck

[latent monolith]

Pozy takes damage

Oh snailed

[cyan gorge]

top eggs are hard to kill unless it's Horn

[cunning river]

Would it been so hard to add AoE indicators for this game

[latent monolith]

Even without the egg range risk the two bottom eggs can reach that

[cunning river]

Istg

[sly drift]

Actually just Horn it.

[cunning river]

Don't have Horn, don't have anyone with Horn on my friend list

[nocturne flame]

How the hell is Mountain surviving left lane with s3 when he tends to die on s2?

[cyan gorge]

I have m9 Horn on support

[nocturne flame]

Woops my chat didn't load newest

[sly drift]

S3 push back enemies.

[nocturne flame]

Yeah, but it has a cooldown

[sly drift]

However you need to rotate him with something

[surreal star]

is he blocking 2 on s2?

[cunning river]

He's on S2

[sly drift]

But this damned cc has +redeploy time risk

[nocturne flame]

I normally ran s2, but risk18+ there's no reasonable combo that mine can survive lane holding sadly

[latent monolith]

Use chalter can also help with the Avengers later on

[sly drift]

What comp

My comp can tank avenger with Saria S1

R18

Oh wait. You still need mostima on 2nd phase

[latent monolith]

Saria S1 would tank an avenger better than mountain S2 I feel

She has more def and I'm pretty sure her self hps is much higher too

[cyan gorge]

Kal or Blaze can work too, for left

[clever kernel]

atk down is quite strong tho

but ye lower def sucks

[sly drift]

Yea. I think the best way to complete r20 below is to tank Avenger above 50% until all other enemies defeated. And then you prepare all the shits needed to phase 2

[nocturne flame]

I'm just underleveled is all

[cunning river]

Says something about how little goodwill I have left for this game that I don't think I've had genuine fun playing it in like more than a year

[nocturne flame]

Only way I've enjoyed the game is banning guides for myself entirely

I quit and came back a year later, game feels better guideless

[cyan gorge]

Then quit already and stop complaining

[sly drift]

Same..
Guide cringe.

[cunning river]

Honestly guides I'd say are the only thing that makes this game bearable with how convoluted it's gotten

[sly drift]

Asking for help is completely fine. But guide is