strategy

[half flint]

after 2 and a half years

[dire pike]

chalter I just missed

and Eyja I just simply never got haha

[half flint]

funnily enough I got both of them in Dossoles Holiday haha

Jan 2022

[dire pike]

I didn't play then sadly

And I didn't get the off rate luck during ideal city either hah

[half flint]

[high crest]

And I thought I can stall him with hoshi

[frigid kite]

Who knows

[glass monolith]

Just roll block for entire run

Like i roll miss of 70% dodge for entire Saga alive duration

[half flint]

you mean, RNG pray the 25% physical dodge?

[glass monolith]

yes

Just because how dumb it is doesn't mean you can't

[orchid talon]

Let’s fucking go r18 \o/

Specalter doll + mudrock s3 = 90% slow

So good

[half flint]

just use Flametail's s3

[orchid talon]

Your r18 Strat is probably completely different lol, what units did you use

Atk down + atk spd down seem so hard

[half flint]

me?

[orchid talon]

Yeah

You have like the opposite risks that I’m using lol

V curious

[half flint]

Myrtle, Elysium, Surtr, Irene, Ch'alter, Saria, Hoshi, Shining, Nightingale and uh... Meteorite

[orchid talon]

Oh are you holding boss at hoshi everything else is dead v

[half flint]

yeah lmao

just like the Emperor's Blade

[glass monolith]

Why tank when i M9 Gladiia for lulz half-year ago

[half flint]

god... I'm not used to using shift operators alright...

[glass monolith]

This is from r18, then i min maxed my approach for boss to somehow get r22

[half flint]

I'm very bad at shift and summon ones

[glass monolith]

And i am good with r22

[orchid talon]

I saw the r18 two op clear from sciel earlier

Really makes me wanna max Dorothy but that looked way too tight Lmaoo

[half flint]

for me I just want r18. no more

[orchid talon]

Yeah, happy I figured out my own r16 Strat, and then only needed to borrow a specalter to make it r18 lol

[half flint]

my thought strategy was

I had been using Eyjafjalla for the bottom lane

but now the right middle is a big problem, since they have upped defense, I can shift my Eyja there but who would deal with the lower one

[orchid talon]

No penance?

[half flint]

nope I never build her

I was thinking Ifrit because the lane suits her

but... it is no use 😭

[orchid talon]

Yeah I built my entire strategy around mudrock penance and ifrit

[half flint]

then I had to use Ch'alter instead

[orchid talon]

Ifrit + yato will one shot any nonboss swordsman

[half flint]

Ifrit did NO damage at all

[orchid talon]

Ifrit s2 goes crazy

[half flint]

it's like they have too much health or something

oh you have to use s2?

[orchid talon]

Yeah

[half flint]

I used s3

that's probably why it never worked lmao

[orchid talon]

Nah s3 is only good if ur stacking a ton of arts damage

But because of deployment limit, not very viable

[half flint]

what is skill 2 best for

because i rarely use her

[orchid talon]

It cycles better, 7 sp cost and stacks 3 times

She can basically cast 4-5 times in a row fully charged

And reduces def by 300 helps a lot lol

[half flint]

wow...

s2 reduces def

s3 reduces res?

[orchid talon]

Yea

[half flint]

I should have known so that her combined with Meteorite will make him a joke

[orchid talon]

I think at m3, s3 is 20 res reduction

[half flint]

let me check

yeah it is

[dire pike]

the class bans are so brutal

[orchid talon]

What are you going for lock?

[dire pike]

18

[orchid talon]

What’s ur box

[half flint]

not really a problem for me since I only use 1 caster

[dire pike]

my box?

[orchid talon]

I avoided the class bans

Yeah, ur ops

[dire pike]

ohh

full list or the ones I've managed the furthest with so far

[orchid talon]

Usable for the event haha

If you can grind it out in the time, include too maybe?

[half flint]

on the other hand I tried avoiding the squad size/dep. limit as much as I can

[quick pecan]

reed alter cheeses caster ban

[half flint]

because I always use so many ops that contract is basically a death sentence for me

[orchid talon]

This event made me regret passing on reedic lol

[dire pike]

I'll just send the ops I have is tha tfine lmao

yeah reedic has been a core for this

[orchid talon]

I saw the 5 op mask risk

Was like what the fuck

[dire pike]

viable people

[half flint]

I have reedic in support unit you can borrow mine

[dire pike]

Realistically I should be able to beat this

[orchid talon]

Reedic nian going crazy

[dire pike]

abyssal has been carrying w reedic

[half flint]

(same as most ops, I never use her though...)

[dire pike]

but I always loose to the lil man in the end

also penance is a staple ofc

mudrock is m6 btw

[half flint]

if you guys need her I actually have Reedic s3 m3'ed lmao

[dire pike]

shes next on the list for me once mountain finishes for his s2

aka in just a few hours

[half flint]

best of luck!

[orchid talon]

Can you build your yato more

[dire pike]

Probably

[orchid talon]

I used these risks

[dire pike]

I managed to get this far last time but yeah, lacking dps at the end whilst having good laneholding

[orchid talon]

Is it to kill him after revive?

[dire pike]

All

Honestly I could probably replace Pozy

She's the least useful here

[half flint]

oh dang that's a lot of level 3 contracts

[orchid talon]

Just atk+ and my hp -

I kill them before they kill me 🤣

[dire pike]

That one's on the guard/supp ban tho

[half flint]

that's a huge risk though...

[dire pike]

offense is the best defense

[orchid talon]

It’s guard/support 2x

Only guard I really use is mlynar and he’s deployed at end

[half flint]

you gtotta sometimes oblige to that

[dire pike]

when ur mlynarless

[orchid talon]

Basically use him to chunk out first hp bar with specter

You can replace with surtr or any boss killer

[half flint]

letme see if I can replicate my r18 run, now that I have a fixed strategy

and show my way to you

[dire pike]

gotcha

I'll experiment around a little

I think the major difference might b in the masteries tho ngl

[half flint]

might be, and also modules too

[orchid talon]

Do you not have any masteries?

[dire pike]

Oh i do

hold on

[half flint]

for me the 4 block of Hoshiguma makes a huge difference as she holds both the bottom and left lanes

[dire pike]

Mudrock m6, penance s3m3, ling sm3, irene s3m3, Nearlter s3m3, SA s3m3, pozy s3m3, lumen s3m3, spalter s2m3, texalter s3m3, mountain s2m2, surtr s3m3, ifrit s2m1

I think that's all atm

[half flint]

m6?

[dire pike]

s2 and s3

[half flint]

ah ic

[dire pike]

I wanna m9 her

I have favorites ok

[orchid talon]

I think you can replace my spot for ifrit with pozy

What’s your yato at?

[dire pike]

side note your p6 penance vs the one texalter dupe 😭

[orchid talon]

Ngl yato Texas we’re so insane

[dire pike]

I'm the complete opposite

[orchid talon]

Yeah… Texas came at pull 284 😂

[dire pike]

I wanted penance

....ended up w p6 texalter

oops

I think we got our stuff switched haha

[orchid talon]

I think I actually p7 or p8d penance

Was too troll

[dire pike]

jesus

I didn't go above on my texalter

I just didn't get any more 6* before the banner ended

[half flint]

this is gonna take a while

[dire pike]

Only got one off rate too and was lucky enough to nab Skalter

[half flint]

Alright this is the setup

[dire pike]

I see

Not sure I can replicate that considering I'm lacking the majority of ops there

But

I'll see if I can do smth w the advice u guys gave

thank u!

[half flint]

…and the execution

[orchid talon]

Really bad photo cuz getting to setup was a little hard

After most of the top side is dead, I just replaced penance, used mlynar to right of escape. I think Surtr in the blank spot 2 tiles down of escape would work fine. If you’re ifrit isn’t super built (I saw it wasn’t s2 mastery or moduled), you can prob put pozy in the corner and her typewriter where id have ifrit

After specalter dies using mudrock s3 effectively stops the boss’s movement

So can keep him locked on that tile underneath

And basically just spam drop yato and Texas as much as dp allows 😂

Could also prob use NTR as a mylnar replacement instead

[half flint]

wait, no medics...?

[orchid talon]

Also ironically reedics s3 is bad for this right? It’s her s2 carrying

[orchid talon]

I’m using mudrock penance, who don’t heal from medics

And skalter heals

Skalter heals everyone from her tile besides penance who doesn’t need it

[half flint]

what... no way

ah I see... she's like Sora right

healing supporter

same branch

[orchid talon]

Yea, she’s a bard

[orchid talon]

Yeah, reedic s2 is crazy because in the corner, her and the tank will double hit both lanes

[half flint]

what is this skill even... I've never seen it

[orchid talon]

It’s her better skill lol

Her s3 is good but it’s nothing a caster can’t do

[orchid talon]

Her s2 is extremely powerful and has niche uses that no one else can satisfy

If you think about that, that’s 3*240 every 1.5 seconds

If you’re stacking two units together, it’s 6*240

1440% of reedics attack every 1.5 seconds

[half flint]

960% of her damage per second

that is like

[orchid talon]

Yeah basically

[half flint]

over 5k

[orchid talon]

Her s3 still a good skill, it’s just not unique

[glass monolith]

Uh... It is unique FPS drop

[half flint]

it's really laggy?

[orchid talon]

Only when you nuke an entire screen lol

Even watching YouTube vids I’ve seen the frame drop for that ability

[glass monolith]

https://youtu.be/6O0wdiuiUjY?si=0lgTsxqoj80OL9sb&t=307

[orchid talon]

Wonder if that’s on emu or phone

I’d have to assume emu but imagining a phone freezing like that is way more hilarious

[glass monolith]

I assume game code just not optimized to assume situation than enemy already died and keep calculating how much damage they take from explosions before going next frame

[half flint]

summon ops are way too op

[tidal sedge]

How is a good way to clear JT8-2 CM? Tal hits so freaking hard. And i cant get her down and deal with the waves evenly.

[glass monolith]

CMs are not must and can be ignored till infinity

[tidal sedge]

Fair

[glass monolith]

I still have chapters 6-9 CMs not done

[tidal sedge]

This might be a "come back with higher level ops"

[orchid talon]

I forgot how I cleared it now but definitely be sure to be using gravel + one other to bait flames

What’s your op level looking like?

[glass monolith]

After doing JT8-3 i realized than baiting flames is too skill demanding of me and i just face tank with NG now

[tidal sedge]

This was my NM clear

[orchid talon]

Your levels are definitely high enough

What other units do u have

[tidal sedge]

Ok better phrasing
Come back with an E2 Lumen

[orchid talon]

Okay not gonna lie

Biggest boon you can probably do, use a nightingale friend lol

[tidal sedge]

👍

[orchid talon]

Drop lumen for more dps

Or another fast deploy that u can use to bait flames

Since if I know Texas, she’s gonna be on cooldown to kill some leaker 😂

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

I do want to E2 my lumen at some point.

[orchid talon]

Yeah. Don’t think this is the stage for him tho

[tidal sedge]

Fair

He helped in NM

[orchid talon]

The resistance buff that nightingale gives will allow ur units to actually fight talulah

[tidal sedge]

I see

[orchid talon]

Prob some setup of silverash in the back, with mon3tr in front

I like sword Amiya too for burst, fortunately in JT8-2 I think she only has 1 bar of hp

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

S1? Or try to time S2.

[orchid talon]

Mmm s1 if she’s tanking talulah

S2 if you just need a burst to kill her

[tidal sedge]

I see

What about left side waves?

[orchid talon]

On the other side

Mountain + mudrock has to hold no?

I can’t imagine that duo falling lol

[tidal sedge]

Ye

Tho the sides might be an issue

[orchid talon]

Might need elysium to help super accelerate

[tidal sedge]

So switch myrtle for him

[orchid talon]

Drop mountain and mudrock next to both exits should cover whole area

I mean you might need both myrtle and elysium

And then eyja prob to help with killing on mountains side?

Mudrock s2 aoe will be fine

[tidal sedge]

Yee

Spin to win!

Ejya s3?

Or s2?

But will give that a shot...
Oh...maybe perfumer left side for continous healing?

[orchid talon]

Yeah could work

[tidal sedge]

👍

[orchid talon]

I think either eyja ability would be fine

[tidal sedge]

S3 iirc i have M3

Or M1

[orchid talon]

They’re both good, and would accomplish what you need

[tidal sedge]

Nvm

[orchid talon]

S3 might be better cuz she can double dip helping mountain and hitting talulah

Potentially

[tidal sedge]

Neither are mastered...

Got it

Ok just tried it, i need to time it better but i think i can do it now

[orchid talon]

Has anyone got advice for H11-4 btw? I don’t wanna look up a YouTube video but the start of the fight is so brutal, both bagpipe and chongyue get demolished by the first enemy lol

[cyan gorge]

The dogs are absolutely brutal

you need at least a sturdy blocker and a medic to open

Texalter can help a bit

[keen mortar]

h11-4? how'd you clear H10-3?

[tidal sedge]

This what keeps happening

[cyan gorge]

You can do h11-4 without doing h10 stages

[tidal sedge]

Tal wipes out everyone near her and then wave of enemies appears

[keen mortar]

true

[cyan gorge]

same applies for all h stages

[keen mortar]

in my head I just like clearing chronologically

[frigid kite]

The dog gets countered by anyone that can autoheal, green number heals remove its passive

And you can just let that guy afk on the left side

Then focus on everything else

[orchid talon]

Ah shit

So looking like a mountain angle

[frigid kite]

Btw Yato S2 destroys dogs

[orchid talon]

Gotta borrow him

[cyan gorge]

So Pallas can counter it, but not Mountain

[frigid kite]

Mountain is passive heal

[orchid talon]

Oh what the

[frigid kite]

Green number heal = literally the numbers that appear on the screen

[orchid talon]

I did clear 10-3, need to look back to remember how

[frigid kite]

Buuut

[keen mortar]

H10-3 or 10-3

[cyan gorge]

that also means musha and reaper guards can counter dog corrosion

[frigid kite]

I think mountain can also kill the dog lol

He just gets overwhelmed later

[keen mortar]

I had to cheese that challenge stage with pozy dodge

[orchid talon]

Oh shit you’re right I did not do 10 series

I think I skipped it cuz I didn’t have good tanks, rolled mudrock recently so I can probably go back to it

[orchid talon]

Oh hmm… I have highmore built but not la pluma, hope she can do it haha

[frigid kite]

Idk if she has enough damage

But sure, give her a try

[cyan gorge]

dogs are pretty tanky

[orchid talon]

Yeah they are

[frigid kite]

Chongue + any healer should also do the work

[cyan gorge]

I could barely solo left lane with Kal

[orchid talon]

I think it’s getting a healer out in time

Maybe I can use Myrtle s2

[frigid kite]

Nope

S1

[orchid talon]

To stall for the healer to come

[frigid kite]

And use Bagpipe S3, her S3 should kill ay least the 1st dog

[orchid talon]

Doesn’t her s2 count as healing to stop the dog corrosion?

I need to build up more healers too, I only have ptilo and nightingale e2’d 😅

[cyan gorge]

Myrtle s2 is green heals yes, but you can get a proper blocker and medic out in the time it takes for one s2 cycle compared to just using s1 + Texas

[cyan gorge]

At least raise a st healer like Warf/Silence/Sussuro

[tidal sedge]

Just love when Yato is right under the drone and doesnt hit it...

[cyan gorge]

Yeah s3 doesn't connect on the tile Yato starts from

[tidal sedge]

Ohhhhhhhh

[cyan gorge]

Keep in mind, she initially dashes 2 tiles forward, range extends every succesful hit

[tidal sedge]

I see

So i need to wait just a little more

[orchid talon]

Yeah warf is next, she’s been e1 70 for so long lol

[sonic willow]

Why not just borrow surtr, use eyja/sa to kill the drone

[orchid talon]

He needs nightingale I think

I mean could be doable without her, but she helps with talulah a lot

[sonic willow]

But why

There's no fireball wave in that map

[orchid talon]

Also TIL, that dog still taps down chongyue+nightingale

Guess I’ll come back after leveling warfarin

[sonic willow]

Wat dog

[orchid talon]

Oh I was attempting some more h11-4

[fiery marsh]

I did this some days ago, nian can permastall SK with 3 healers and a atk down, in my case was mousse. Penance can kill the corrosion tanks with reflection.

[sonic willow]

Show units

[orchid talon]

I don’t think I’ll have problems with SK

It’s just the early game setup

[fiery marsh]

Saria + pozy soled left side for me

[sonic willow]

Saria should work yeasj

[orchid talon]

Saria s1?

[sonic willow]

Then have dps help

[fiery marsh]

Yes, Mine was m2

And pozy to dps

[orchid talon]

Hmm I’m only m2 on saria s3

[fiery marsh]

M1 maybe works

[orchid talon]

Mmm it’s ok I can get warfarin up by the end of the week maybe faster

[fiery marsh]

You Just need to kill the first dog to have time to setup the Guardian healer + dps thing

[orchid talon]

Thinking warfarin + chongyue should be able to hold?

Yeah that first dog is a bitch

[fiery marsh]

I used bagpipe to kill the first one and retreated

[orchid talon]

My bagpipe got murdered

[fiery marsh]

[orchid talon]

Maybe I needa set her back further to get her s3 up

[fiery marsh]

Well, Mine is s3 and mod3

But without skill she dies for sure

You Just need to kill the first, probally Just s3 m3 is enough

The dp return from the mod is good tho

[orchid talon]

damn

I guess I gotta go farm more rocks then

[keen mortar]

ROCK AND STONE!

[fiery marsh]

Kyato can kill the first no?

With s2

[orchid talon]

Yeah probably

Could just yato cheese it

[fiery marsh]

Try it

[orchid talon]

Is chongyue even worth using on this stage

Can I get him to 5 casts

[feral merlin]

just tried with chongyue and warfy

[fiery marsh]

If you can buy time for he charge the skill, maybe he can solo hold left side

[feral merlin]

close but its doable on left side

[orchid talon]

The tiles look good for him, don’t know if he lives tho

[fiery marsh]

With a healer

[feral merlin]

theres the oneshot rot eaters that go there later

dont think he can kill those in till

[fiery marsh]

If he cant bring corpses

[feral merlin]

wither maw*

mm fair

[fiery marsh]

But i dont think is worth bring him, is easier doing the defense healer + dps thing

[orchid talon]

Yeah I’ll be bringing gravel

Ok for sure I’ll take out chongyue from the roster

[feral merlin]

i used gavalter mlynar and ng for the left in my clear

[fiery marsh]

You already tried a run?

That didnt failed in the first dog

[orchid talon]

Not yet still forming team

How’s this? Maybe swap out SA for gravel

[fiery marsh]

Well i never tried bursting SK so i dont know

[feral merlin]

doesnt steam knight just run through this

[fiery marsh]

Is what im thinking will happen

[orchid talon]

I’ve bursted SK for every other fight I’ve done against him

But obv he’s probably turbo buffed in this lol

I just have a bad healer pool

[fiery marsh]

They dont need to be good If you bring nian

[orchid talon]

No nian

[feral merlin]

i went with shamare atk down for myself

[orchid talon]

No nian no hoshi either

[fiery marsh]

I did with this

[cyan gorge]

Just sandwich SK between turtle and Mousse

[fiery marsh]

Well you dont borrowed anyone so

[feral merlin]

mousse slaps so hard

[orchid talon]

I’m looking at ur guys rosters

I might needa come back later

Not enough healing in my box

Needa build up perfumer and warf, I think they’re both high on my list next anyways

[cyan gorge]

NG and Skalter is enough healing for SK

[orchid talon]

O?

[cyan gorge]

maybe add an e1 warf

more than enough

[feral merlin]

my ng was tied to left side

skalter solo heals right side huh

its been awhile since ive cleared it

[fiery marsh]

Yeah, the problem with SK is the one shot thing, If you can survive It isnt that high in healling pressure

[feral merlin]

i remember having trouble with the artillery thing

locked tiles is no bueno

[cyan gorge]

You can cheese those with NG cages

since it targets highest max hp

cages have like 6k hp

[feral merlin]

o

[fiery marsh]

NG gaming

[feral merlin]

didnt think about that one

[cyan gorge]

Can also be cheesed by other deployables like Silence drone and Shamare doll

doesn't take the targeting but prevents tiles from being locked

[orchid talon]

You need nian s2?

[fiery marsh]

Not really

[orchid talon]

S3 ok?

[cyan gorge]

Skill doesn't matter as long as she has at least mod 2

to live off skill

[fiery marsh]

I used It one time when a devourer walked in mousse so the healling pressure became high, i used to the heallers Focus in healling the one blocking the devourer

[cyan gorge]

the devourers have 0 def

snipers kill them

[orchid talon]

You kill them before devour?

[cyan gorge]

yes

[feral merlin]

mhm

[orchid talon]

I’ve always used body bags but that makes sense

[cyan gorge]

I had Archetto one cycle them

[feral merlin]

exu here instead

[fiery marsh]

You can, in my case i Just used body bags i dont have a big range good sniper and pozy was in the left side

[cyan gorge]

Mlynar also kills them

just any high phys damage

[fiery marsh]

Mylnar is a true god in this stage tho

He can kill the tanks and the devoures in spawn

Just needs to time

[deft badger]

and he decided to tell hoshi sit 1sec after that

[orchid talon]

Okay thanks for all the discussion, I have a game plan going in now!

Gotta get back to work haha, I’ll update if I clear

[turbid badge]

than ur surtr ruins it

kekw

[fiery marsh]

Good luck

[cyan gorge]

I only used Surt near the end

or to kill trees

[orchid talon]

O yeah when do you all kill tree

Thinking of just yato dropping on them over time

[cyan gorge]

while you're stalling SK phase 1

[fiery marsh]

I used the typewriter and bagpipe to kill 3 of them, the last i let walk to nian and killed here with a pozy redeploy

Yeah, while SK was stalled

[orchid talon]

I’m surviving start, just needa figure out timings. Devourers are fucking me up might just do body bag Strat and let eyja burn through them

At least music is an absolute banger to play on loop haha

[cyan gorge]

Again, they have low def

pre devour

[orchid talon]

Exu positioning probably bad atm

She’s targeting dogs and not devourers

[cyan gorge]

You can literally put her on the top spawn if you have someone to bait the car bombs

this is also why I brought Cheeto over Exu

multitarget op

[orchid talon]

Don’t own her

[cyan gorge]

rip

[orchid talon]

My sniper and healer pool is my worst easily

[cyan gorge]

then Mlynar them

[orchid talon]

Yeah, will do

[cyan gorge]

Do you have Shamare?

[orchid talon]

I do but not built at all

[cyan gorge]

damn

[orchid talon]

Yeah nian was dying too, either need to time her s3 activation better

What’s the tell on SK going sicko mode punch

[cyan gorge]

You either want her skill active for that or have some form of atk down to soften the blow

Nian needs about e2 70 with mod 2 to survive off skill consistently

[orchid talon]

I found a e2 90 mod2 friend

Or rando, so we have that set

She lived one punch by herself, need more heals to top her back up

Maybe I’ll do NG saria on left, warf skalter nian on right

Oh no

LOL nian just got one shot through s3

That’s funny

[cyan gorge]

Try bringing s2

[orchid talon]

Not mine unfortunately

I’ll try the mousse trick

My lvl 34 mousse about to go crazy

[orchid talon]

Ok I adjusted a couple strategies I think I’m stabilized now…?

A little worried about these trees but we’ll see

Ok, trees are down, gotta prep for phase 2 now

Ah holy shit steam knight ran me through lmao

[glass monolith]

You trying to tank 2700 x 3 with "can't be healed" operator?

[eager gate]

Bet there's a way to somehow make it work on Noire since his parry parries all 3 hits

Maybe with like 3 bards healing his ass at once

[sinful gate]

3 bards plus perfumer lmao

[glass monolith]

Well we have people who did Nian/Hoshi stall
We have me who stacked damage reduction on Skadi/Quartz
We have Dr Silvergun who stalled with Gravel + Beanstalk
I welcome more ways to do it

[eager gate]

If only there was a way to consistently give him status resist

Whisperain gives mountain levels of regen to those

[orchid marlin]

Who should buy token for to decrease dp cost?

I was thinking mountain or surtr

[orchid talon]

One tapped nian in phase 2

[eager gate]

It's not that important for either Mountain or Surt

[orchid talon]

I feel like I’m missing a deployment slot atm, prob need to do a rework plan

[eager gate]

Keep the tokens for really good pots

[orchid talon]

Would prob save token for next good talent potential

Especially one for a limited op

[orchid marlin]

You think it is better to build pot tree than -1dp for my cores?

[orchid marlin]

Like who a second vanguard?

[turbid badge]

people who did mlynar surtr spalter specter

[eager gate]

Bag talent pot

[turbid badge]

peopel who did shamare roberta, cuora

[eager gate]

Is among very very few great pots

I made Skadi tank sk with 2 medics

[orchid talon]

I think my Strat works

Need to get back to the point of screenshot above

[turbid badge]

Do u have waaifu

[orchid talon]

Then maybe kill tree on top right, move saria to heal nian too, and should be ok

[turbid badge]

with s1 she can easily give sk -atk%

i doubt u use ceobe

[orchid talon]

Ceobe kills SK

[orchid marlin]

Is it for improve first talent specifically?

[turbid badge]

just use mlynar

[orchid talon]

At the end

[turbid badge]

??

and ur frdps

[orchid talon]

Mlynar was killing all the summons

[eager gate]

The one that gives extra sp to vg, I don't remember which it is

[turbid badge]

5

it makes siege s3 instant

[orchid talon]

Also I just love seeing ceobe go off

[eager gate]

Dadadadada

[orchid talon]

That module made her such a fun beast lol

[orchid marlin]

that is a module upgrade, @pot 2 it boost dmg by quite a bit it seems

[orchid talon]

I don’t think I actually needed Texas so I guess I can swap her for more healing maybe

[eager gate]

Out of early impactful pots

Uhhh

Eyja2?

The diff in sp is pretty big iirc

And since caster tokens are in red cert shop you can get it even if your Eyja's on 0

[orchid marlin]

I don't have any of these operators, i'll save for bagpipe if I ever get her. Seems she is avail on recruitment

[craggy helm]

Wait are red shop Royal tokens infinite?

[orchid marlin]

Do they refresh with each season?

[orchid talon]

Holy shit

Almost threw cuz I leaked a devourer, but yato x Texas clutched it out lmao

Thanks for the help everyone! Team brain 🧠

Now I gotta go back and do h10 series I can see the cannon in my nightmares now

[tidal sedge]

any tips getting past this monster lol

[orchid talon]

Have you tried the shifter Strat?

Then when he revives, prob use specter to face tank for as long as she can

[cyan gorge]

guard specter s2m3 lasts exactly 15 seconds

[craggy helm]

Suzu + any good DPS to phase, surtr/specter/spalter to tank p2 with other DPS cds to kill

[orchid talon]

Another cc, another reminder to build guard spectre

[eager gate]

No. What I meant is there are enough tokens for 2 whole pots, 4 in red shop and 4 in cc
I think they refreshed the red shop last summer and changed the tokens, but this year there was none.

Ye they totally did, I bought specialist tokens from there

[craggy helm]

Damn too bad I missed those

I'll try to get mostima pots, 4 more shouldn't be too hard right?

[deft badger]

how do we get operation agreements?

[sullen rover]

dailies

[signal granite]

Once you complete risk 4 & risk 8 from main CC map or Daily CC map, you can get these from reward

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[dry skiff]

i just Dorothy Weedy stall the boss then use Unchained and Specter to stall his invincibility then back to pushing with weedy

[scarlet ledge]

hello pipe

@dry skiff peak

[dry skiff]

pro

what risk

[scarlet ledge]

just r18

[dry skiff]

wao tsukonogi

[scarlet ledge]

[deft badger]

is weedy s1 kinder similar to feater s1 push?
m3 btw

[dry skiff]

i guess

Feater can probably stall longer since she has longer CC

[deft badger]

he shouldn't be able to move anyway, but have to try it later i killed my mouse on r22 have to w8 couple days for max risk anyway...
know that feater has slow, but didn't really know what weedy does with her s1 and how it looks like when its m3 xD

ty anyway

[lethal dragon]

Feater S2 is the way

[pearl sentinel]

Are there any defenders that can tank hateful avenger? It seems to one shot hella easily

Or should I borrow some buffers?

[cyan gorge]

Nian with s2 up

[pearl sentinel]

Oh right. Imma try that tyty

[ashen shadow]

just dodge with hoshi

[minor willow]

i have hard time fighting exploding spiders on R.A keep blowing my barrier, does the barrier II prevent that, since it got camouflage?

[dry skiff]

no
Camo doesn't prevent being hit by aoe

if u want to fight spiders
simply make a wide area where the explosion doesn't hit anything

[waxen swan]

Anyone know ra ending requirements?

[dry skiff]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1anE0mIGmPwfoufjOCw5AOCtw9sF6FDr9kF9nPk_oRU0/edit?usp=sharing

[waxen swan]

Okay

[vernal lion]

man can you feel it

[pearl musk]

How does e1 ifrit s2 do on cc boss

[cyan gorge]

Not very much I'd imagine

too expensive for a low traffic lane

[latent anvil]

She's kinda useful for the top right if you face her up on that lane but not on the boss

[brisk pollen]

is e1 texas enough for the cc12 afk strategy?

[steep tartan]

probably not enough dmg

[sage basin]

anyone have fire within the sand skill tree in english?

and the requirement of each node

[vernal lion]

https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Fire_Within_the_Sand/Road_of_Prosperity

you can check it here

[sage basin]

thank you

how do i get the wall lvl 2 btw

[vernal lion]

you build wall lvl 1 first

the same to lvl 3, you will need to build lvl 2 to unlock lvl 3

[vernal lion]

ah yes, now imagine his sword dealing Arts dmg...

[high crest]

Dont give them ideas

[civic bear]

that'd be so easy suddenly

[lethal dragon]

🦽

[dire pike]

me when I die

[glass monolith]

Sounds like free risk for me
#strategy message

[vernal lion]

nah expect that you would play Specialist,
Imma just go traditional strategy instead

still work lmao

[glass monolith]

Reject tradition. Embrace random bullshit go

Best part - i went compeltely semi-blind. I didn't knew Manticore + Gladiia alone can stall

I just got that by accident and like "Hey, that's pretty good"

Then i died to phase 2 and malded 2 more hours to get back to same spot

[vernal lion]

embrace RNG

Gummy stun is fun lol

[glass monolith]

Gummy with Bladesomething in IS soloing stupid stun dog by stunning faster

[scarlet ledge]

i love gmmuy

[drifting agate]

can thunderstorms destroy gathering hubs?

[tropic valve]

I don't think they can harm structures

[glass monolith]

They don't damage them and instead hunt down my chalter

[shut siren]

is there anyone thats really good for this cc? like a must have that i should borrow?

[glass monolith]

Permament stage or today's daily? For permament stage it depends which r2 ban risk you go - No specialist/casters or No guards/supports

[shut siren]

im not sure which one to pick

i have a ton of guards but i have yato alter

[glass monolith]

Penance can solo enemies from bottom right box + stealth casters (at least on enemy ATK 3, enemy HP 2, ally atk down 2, ally hp down 3)

Killing dogs, claw dudes and avengers is legendary shitshow

[drifting agate]

which skill on penance? i still have to build her

[loud heath]

skill 3

[glass monolith]

I had her S3M1 and it was enough for my r22 shitshow

Only one ATK risk for enemies, no risk to reduce defense, majority of enemies are weak

[drifting agate]

also thanks, finished my first algo

just need to cook 30 wheat into wheatballs and i'm done with the medals

[high crest]

What good tier 3 risk to unlock for a hoshi stall?

[drifting agate]

i did hp down 3 but that makes hoshi stall only work as long as shining S3 is active

so you absolutely need to have burst dps ready as soon as avenger drops to 50%

[high crest]

How about her s2 is it good

[drifting agate]

i tried it but it's too weak with the risks i tried

S3 makes it so that hoshi loses 50% hp from a single hit

she also had skalter S2M3 buff

[high crest]

Cause I need like a good healer for a thing I want to used like 4 healers hehe

[drifting agate]

can't heal from a oneshot

yeah, hypermaxed hoshi does get oneshot without shining S3 active

[high crest]

Ill try it cause I don't have that many options hehe I don't have good burst ops to use

[drifting agate]

i say burst, but all i had was thorns and pallas

it didn't work without pallas, but with pallas i managed to beat him within shining's skill

i didn't take the atk down risk though

[high crest]

Aspd down seem sucks though

[high crest]

The tier 3 red buff damn

[drifting agate]

cantabile was useful for the initial DP drought and helping thorns hold the center box secure

[high crest]

My lanehold is only penance and Kal hehe

[glass monolith]

Ehe te nandayo?

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0PD3r1YnrM&ab_channel=くろむ

[thin nova]

RAHHHH

[steep tartan]

can only get r16 so far

[glass monolith]

r22 here and no balls to push it higher

[thin nova]

i did risk 18

[steep tartan]

gj!! : DD

[dire pike]

my last hope

[loud halo]

@quaint aspen @fathom jay

• i have gummy on the top right side to to flag bearer
• i have spot on the left side
• i have cuora down bottom.

There are 3 slasher waves...
wave 1 (1 slasher)
wave 2 (2x slasher)
wave 3 (boss slasher)

If i use cuora skill, i can survive wave 1 with cuora.
wave 2, cuora dies for sure.

If i let cuora retreat curoa after wave 1... i don't think my vanguard (courier) can survive the duo slasher at all... (he's e1 lv 40)..

[fathom jay]

Any e1 low rarity defender dies to <50% red weebs so it's fine. Cheapest solution should be Noir Corne

[brisk pollen]

can maxed cuora + shining s2 tank redblade?

(risk 18)

[coral haven]

Depends on risk selection

[vernal lion]

that's like you must not take more than 1 of +atk risk

because my Hoshi almost died to 2 atk up risks and 1 hp down risk

dude sweeps my Hoshi like a piece of paper

[brisk pollen]

the redblade only or the all enemies one?

[vernal lion]

both

let me explain

boss risk is atk up
enemy risk is also atk up

if you pick R2 boss and R1 atk up
it's the same to R1 boss and R2 atk up, but harder

the stalling strat won't work if you pick all boss risk, atk up risk, and hp down risk

not to say, if you want to pick R3, you have to finish R18 clear first

some of R3 is just better than 2 atk risks tho

[foggy grove]

just take r3 -hp and don't take atk up

[orchid talon]

Does anyone have a heavy rain I could borrow/friend

[cyan gorge]

Does she need masteries?

[orchid talon]

Don’t think so, found someone on general too but I’ll add you if you have space!

Using her for WD-EX-8 lol

Cc time = complete all the missions I haven’t done yet

Xtorsion#4376

[cyan gorge]

Wouldn't Ch'en or Pozy be a more sensible borrow there?

if you just want to cheese fart mechanics

[frigid kite]

Better borrow Yato

She destroys the boy

[orchid talon]

Dude idk wtf is happening he just farts everywhere and I get owned lol

Yesterday I had a run where he was only guy left at like 3% hp

But I was dumb and didn’t bait so yato got one shot on drop

[frigid kite]

He will target the one that deals more damage to him

If that op is no more, he will target other

I think is closest

And latest

Just throw yato or texas at him lol

Surtr

Monster

Mlynar

You got options

[orchid talon]

It’s the furthest

[frigid kite]

Ah yeah

Well

[orchid talon]

And also til

He prioritizes mlynar

Super annoying LOL

[frigid kite]

Mlynar taunts

[orchid talon]

Yeah

[frigid kite]

Not playing this game makes you forget

[orchid talon]

That taunt is almost always troll

[frigid kite]

But do this

Let mlynar charge

Wait until you have yato or anyone else

Then burst the guy

Done

[orchid talon]

Yeah finally got the timing

All it took was skalter+warf+yato+Texas LMAO

[fathom jay]

Ngl sounds like just borrowing Pozy would've made it much easier. Typewriter can't be targeted so you only need to deploy ops to bait the farts. Kinda tetris-like gameplay

[orchid talon]

Oh

Damn yeah didn’t think about that. You’re probably right

All good tho we got it! Lmao

[fathom jay]

Well done :^)

[orchid talon]

Fart boss stays one of the hardest boss fights

[frigid kite]

Now kill it with Kroos

[latent monolith]

WD EX 8 NM is probably one of the more memed on stages at this point
CM tileban is still kinda brutal tho

[orchid talon]

Kroos gaming 👀

Yeah the NM was way easier

I’ve seen like the competitive AK players rip through that stage but

Farts have been my bane 😂

[cyan gorge]

That wasn't even my Heavyrain you used

[orchid talon]

Oops sry

Other heavy rain was m6 80 lol

[vernal lion]

that boss just died to a buff Chen lol

[orchid talon]

No Chen no pozy

Two best answers

Unfortunately

Maybe Amiya could do it too but

[cyan gorge]

I could've easily lent you a maxed Pozy

[orchid talon]

It’s ok pozy would’ve meant I had to swap my entire strategy

I had a game plan with heavyrain haha

Tho it’s probably not hard, using executors to drop farts with pozy typewriter I’m assuming

[fathom jay]

Yeah, Pozy strat is pretty much kill all the enemies first, retreat everyone except for Pozy & then kill with Typewriter while deploying ops to bait the farts

[orchid talon]

Alright that’s my daily “annoy strategy section for ak”
I’ll probably be back tomorrow when I try on H10 series or H9 (realize I’ve only done up to H9-2 oops)

[frigid kite]

Just mlynar it

[shell marsh]

I have that and i tryto beat 7 18 (patriote) anyome can tell me a good strat... Seem no matcher what i can find a way to beat that lvl 🙂

I also have these

[cyan gorge]

Borrow Kal

[shell marsh]

Kal?

[cyan gorge]

Kal'tsit

true damage good vs Patriot

[shell marsh]

Thanks i Will go see if a friend have it. What is classe?

[cyan gorge]

Medic

[glass monolith]

He has Kirin he can just stab him repeatly and it will work

[shell marsh]

Hehe i try but she didnt do enought for first phase. And second im too far so beeeek

[glass monolith]

First is tanky AF and insta kill 99% of stuff which attempt to block him.
Second just hates your ranged operators

[fathom jay]

You don't need the 1st phase damage, mines do the job

[shell marsh]

OK so put mine all the way hé move. Make sure unit other that patriote donc activateur them. Kill phase 1 like that. Then usé kirin 3th skill to tear him à New hole

Gonna go try

[glass monolith]

Kirin S1/S2 him, why S3 against single enemy

[frigid kite]

Cool skill

[shell marsh]

Humm tru i usé it to kill other ennemie same time.

S1 should bè the best here?

[frigid kite]

S2 would bé the best in this case

[shell marsh]

Fudge she seem to hit like a wet noodle

Xd

[frigid kite]

Look at that damage 😳

[glass monolith]

Hey, at least i see hp going down

[shell marsh]

M'y mage elesomething hit for 500ish xd better but both of them

[vernal lion]

Texas s2 should do it easy tho

[frigid kite]

Btw do you speak spanish or Italian?

[shell marsh]

French

[frigid kite]

Close 💀

[vernal lion]

Français

[shell marsh]

Ben oui chu un tit québécois xd

S2 of Texas can stun a bit but its un repliable non

Reliable

[frigid kite]

No

[vernal lion]

no lol

[frigid kite]

Texas S2 is damage

[vernal lion]

Texas alter

[frigid kite]

Big damage

[shell marsh]

Ohhhh

Dont have him i play after hé was here

[frigid kite]

Really sad

[vernal lion]

there are 2 Texas,
a Texas, and a cooler Texas

[frigid kite]

Well if you dont want to borrow, just use some mines and then Eyja S3 him

[vernal lion]

[frigid kite]

And for 2nd phase

Yato can kill it

You can also use Saria S3 for 1st phase

[vernal lion]

you need to bait the hit, because he can oneshot your Yato lol

[shell marsh]

Ohhh saria i dont usé her enought.

[orchid talon]

If you’re really stuck, you can borrow my penance

She can solo it lmao

[frigid kite]

Shut

Let the guy have fun

[orchid talon]

LMAO fair

[shell marsh]

I think i Will usé eyja s3 with saria s3 them phase 2 juste yato him

Fuck thanks all

Penancr solo... I feel like a noob. Been like 1 month i try to beat him. Same at stage 9 18 i think xd

[vernal lion]

it's just mine showcase lmao

[orchid talon]

If you’re having trouble with the phase 1, eyja s2 can reduce his res if you’re not just taking him out with mines

[vernal lion]

your best solution is Texas alter s2 ngl

but if you want to try smth else, just as you want

[orchid talon]

Leveling Amiya helps too

You need her e2 for story later on anyways

Her s3 is true damage and was definitely my carry when I did patriot

[glass monolith]

(Looks on my original clear being Warf + Chalter + Mine as only boss dps)

[orchid talon]

Which of the CC ops are worth max potentialing? I heard scene is good, maybe bibeak?

[frigid kite]

Plot twist, they didnt survive phase 2

[glass monolith]

During H7-4 meme clear with S2 Fia, i had Warf survive Patriot spear because Shamare.
Then killed herself with S2

[vernal lion]

I would say Mostima, because global slow is a thing

[glass monolith]

i think he asks about tokens for CC shop operators

[vernal lion]

oh

then go for Scene

[orchid talon]

Yeah, but any of the others?

Since it’s final cc might as well do this haha, I restarted playing only in time for CC11 😦

[vernal lion]

so can you tell who are they, because I just have so many of CC token right now and nothing else to buy LMAO

[orchid talon]

Bibeak, scene, erato, tuye

[vernal lion]

Erato can do the trick with sleep mechanic

[cyan gorge]

Erato and Scene are the best of those 4 imo

[orchid talon]

So worth max poting those two and ignore tuye and bibeak pots (I bought the ops themselves already)

[fathom jay]

Pretty sure you don't need max pot Erato to do the stall. Honestly, I wouldn't max pot any of them. You can just save the currency for now since the shop stays

[vernal lion]

wait the CC token is still there, even after the rework???

[orchid talon]

This is last CC tho, no more cc tokens coming in

[fathom jay]

They might do something about that in the future

[orchid talon]

Hmm. I could just forsake the pots and get specialist tokens too lol

[glass monolith]

[vernal lion]

"They might do something about that in the future"
Look at IS2, now pay enough OP to gain all levels and earn rewards

[frigid kite]

Oh no

[vernal lion]

[frigid kite]

Paid medals

[rose patrol]

How do u beat this boss when in phase 2? My attacks barely do dmg and it melted my saria

[dry skiff]

Give your defender the 50% def and Hp up

If u can't tank it still
Spam fortification 2
Or use the base as the meat shield and focus on bursting it

[hidden spade]

Having multiple medics with attack / speed buffs helps as well.

[lilac oak]

Anyone have suggestions for friend supports to put up for CC?

[soft crystal]

the boss has like 600k hp or something

oh 700k

[cyan gorge]

Mostima, Cliffheart, Manticore, Weedy, Hoshi, NTRK (s2), Reedic (s2)

[lilac oak]

What about between Surtr, Bagpipe, and Spalter? 😅

[cyan gorge]

Those are good too

[tropic valve]

I just threw fortification T2 at him and DPS raced him with Schwarz

[ionic mortar]

Having trouble with 7-12

[turbid badge]

@grand ginkgo if ur still struggling on r18

i found using fang vanilla courier to be noce

since u dont wanna use murtle

[grand ginkgo]

i just e1d myrtle because i want to be done with it
but ill try a non-cringe clear if i have lmd to raise them

[turbid badge]

lol only courier

hes nice

cuz defensive vg helps mid

than lets me put mudrock

and forget

[grand ginkgo]

how kill the boss tho

[turbid badge]

no clue yet

im trying ifrit s3

[grand ginkgo]

wonderful

[turbid badge]

and reed

• Yato

butt

its kinda scuffed

[grand ginkgo]

that seems like it wont be able to burst him down twice

[turbid badge]

yea

Not twice

[grand ginkgo]

once for sure

[turbid badge]

this is my open

than i put yato in middle

clean@up the dudes

and put mudrock on the entrance so mortar doesnt fuck me, deploy monster first tho

u can also try Mlynar strat

with the deepcolor dodge

kekw

[glass monolith]

I assume your end game is killing ultra weeb while Dusk stall it with whatever skill make her spam funny blocking dragons?

[turbid badge]

yea its hella scuffed ,mlynar strat seems easier

havent watched it but judt heard

u kill mlynar

woth

and that sounds good enough

with deepcolor dodge rng

reed cinder is a godsend

Ethan used to bind

and with reed alter

for the katana

if any leak i just activate s3

for Monster

[upbeat plover]

I hope week 2 adds some easier risks for r18

[cyan gorge]

but no trimmed medal

[upbeat plover]

I just wanna get the tokens for the shop... even tho trimmed medal would be sick

[keen mortar]

I didn't get any trimmed medal for cc8 and I'm still in one piece

[turbid badge]

ah

[frigid kite]

Fang will tank the guy

I trust her

[turbid badge]

i totally dont swap her out

actuslly she does tank

i kill guy to half with reedic

than deploy monster

[grand raft]

Any ideas on how to do this challenge?

I'll probably think about it tomorrow morning and see if I could come up with anything new before I Bang my head against the wall Good Night.

[frigid kite]

Mlynar him

Good night tho

[grand raft]

🤔

[grand raft]

Thanks

[dry skiff]

I just use weedy to stall him with Dorothy

Then during invulnerability, stalled it with Specter s2, then back to pushing

[grand raft]

ZZZ I'll Borrow a Dorothy zzz

[random frost]

who is the key op for 9-10 to take out the tombkeeper

[foggy grove]

the pillar

[cyan gorge]

Pozy them

[frigid kite]

True

[foggy grove]

if you want to ignore the pillar juts use your usual suspect

[dry skiff]

Very easy

[foggy grove]

mlynar,chalter etc

[random frost]

how? the pillars can hit air targets?

[dry skiff]

Break the pillar on the left downward to make the enemies go into middle instead

Then just spam your units there

For the gargoyles, just use mlynar or something
Anything ranged really

[foggy grove]

it can but also garg insta die without transform

[random frost]

this is all i have
i face troubles when he goes airborne

[foggy grove]

if you pillar them on their base form they will just die and don't enter flying mode

[turbid badge]

@grand ginkgo i think kal mod boosts healing for ground right

i used yato + reed kek

[grand ginkgo]

damn

actually real

[turbid badge]

probably

ah rip

[grand ginkgo]

i think bringing cuora is a must though because she tanks so well

[turbid badge]

i win but like

monster dies

if u have mod

he lives

[grand ginkgo]

and yeah red avengers stacking up is just big L

[turbid badge]

cuz he stuns at half hp

i just yato the trash after monster dies btw

yeah with kal mod i kill them all

• monster lives

wait do u have projekt red

a 2 sec stun should be enough

lemme see

sl7 red s2

[grand ginkgo]

i can raise red i suppose

i hab her e0 1

[grand ginkgo]

cooking way too hard

[fiery marsh]

Holy my dearest god, the Boss hits too hard

Finnaly managed to do it without upgrading shifters. Nian can tank him during S2 with sussurro and ptolopsis bursts. Specter to buy me 8 more precious seconds

[cyan gorge]

Wrong place for clear screens

[grand ginkgo]

sl6 e2 perfumer

[fiery marsh]

Meh isnt that diferet tho

[grand ginkgo]

as long as you win

[fiery marsh]

I was thinking like: maybe someone will try a strategy that is tanking the Boss, so this information can help

[cyan gorge]

A ss of your placements on the map itself would be better and won't get a mod on your ass

[scarlet ledge]

nice clear

[full finch]

boss does indeed do a little bit of the slapp

[nocturne flame]

What rank 3 is best to grab for Nameless Sanctuary?

Trying to clear SSS

[full finch]

boss3 is not bad

makes him harder to burst though

[nocturne flame]

flame and steel?

[full finch]

not the red one

[nocturne flame]

or invincible blade

Atm my main plan is just bursting him

[full finch]

the red one is

[nocturne flame]

I have saria in bottom left with exu, shwarz, chalter, and rosa on s3ing him

[full finch]

60% damage resistance when below half HP is just

[latent monolith]

Do not take the right boss risk

It's strictly a harder version of the left one

[full finch]

it's only for fully setup stallers

who want to flex

[nocturne flame]

Yikes

[scarlet ledge]

@full finch oh ye how perma for u?

[full finch]

did r24

had to borrow surtr because mine defective

[nocturne flame]

Any recommendations for what other buffs to take if my goal is SSS?

[scarlet ledge]

pog

[full finch]

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