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i have to get skadi -.-

Sl7 
still need my own for the module
Ok reduced it further to 9 walls
can they push golems?
I doubt it
You will need Ange + Weedy S3M3 and i think you still push them barely

Damn, i found probably worst encounter ever
Waste 1 Act to summon raid, which you need to fight with another Act at some point, and reward is 3 ore 
Woohooo i achieved ending 2 trigger.... I still don't have base to fight it 
what happens if u delete a enemy nest
no more raids come from there i belive
Raids won't spawn from it, there are still random raids pop up in literally any zone but you will notice much less raids overall if you kill nests fast
oh u gotta kill that structure for it to happen i belive
if u just kill enemies they respawn
yea they tanky af
Ok got it
I love how CF-EX-2 has 2 sheeps stacked on same spot just to get you fucked when you trigger it
holy Ex-4 got birds lmao
lo
i just schwing schwinged it
uh... fuck did Hypergryph crashed?
i was kicked from CM stage to login screen
Just texalter it
totally not me accidentally put sniper to shoot them the first time
peak
kazu skin where

w8 till u see the challenge mode of it xDDD
eh, im doing 8CM rn, trying to time my stun good so i can evaporate him
Wtf 
bruh
When the final stage is surprisingly hard

i just burst rathalos with mylnar, saria, pozy, surtr, texalt and aak 
stood no chance
dude that stupid pigs are way to op xD
ethan usage!!! 🔥
how was this one tho lol
A little bit of effort, lost twice cause I forgot to activate skills 
just burst enemy at spawn
let ranthalos walk
or just burst him too 
I want to make video so I actually want to make a close call 
Make it looks like a tough fight
(nearly died) (cops called) (3am challenge)
made the title for you
fuck finally im on end3
@cyan gorge https://vxtwitter.com/modomosnn/status/1702259954055565821?t=9rs0JYk9BWKp_stQdG3cug&s=19


Chalter surely takes longer but there's no way Pozy deal more damage in one cycle than chalter s3 to single enemy right?
Knowing that chalter has that recycle ammo talent
the first time I has encountered that bird in normal mode,
it did like 98% of HP to my Texas,
after that I knew how cancer that one is
P5 sexas?
My p4 sexas just straight ded
My Taxes gets one shot 
Maybe I will just max pot her later for specific case like this 
yea I said the normal one
pozy with typewriter has significantly more single target damage than chalter 
Do I have to use SA instead of myrtle for CF7
Okay my bad then
I want to see number 
There's usually someone come with graph for comparison
that ultimate thing?
fr
nv xD
linebreaker hurts significantly more
The Challenge mode is the hardest isnt it
Silberash isn't an operator before e2
you can see it on viktor lab the total damage is very obv different
he barely tickels eunectes
Silberass
any idea how to deal with that ultimate
Surtr thrice
his roar hits to hard -.-
You have the dragonfly device. The stage demand you to use all helidrop 
Ex 8 cm is harder
i don't have a problem with the stage i have a problem with him i let him leave with 20% and go to sleep
i just borrowed mlynar and used the flashbang thing
anyway waking him up he does a roar that 1 hits everything that isn't mylnar or surtr
then flys like a moron all over the place
i do
still he kills them xD
well his roar puts mylnar to 10%
Just yato him
he 1 hits him with a spit
I legit used all helidrop so that Rathalos has no target when he's flying

what roar are you talking about
the roar that makes all ops stunned doesnt do damage
his spit does do damage
but mlynar can easily tank it
I think that's the most effective way since you have so many dragonfly
when he roars everything dies xD
the stun roar doesnt do damage
What kill you is his tail when he spinning
am i stupid, when he roars all die beside mylnar and surtr
ok that can be actually
i cant prevent him from doing it if i flashbang him to early
he just ignores it and goes in to flight
Sometime your flashbang missed if you use it too early
not really it applies for a sec
don't know why, if u flashbang him before he goes up
Use exactly when he first attacking ur ops
when he is in the air and u flashbang him then he sits
I finally cleared it, but I misplaced Surtr at the very end and the final 3 enemies got through 
💀
what surtr does to a man
Surtr took out rat then forgot to hold the line 
That final few enemies are disgusting
enemy switching path in CF-EX-3 is just like WR-EX-6 lol
puzzle thingy
2750 dmg per stone
💀
thats cool
I have mostly never bothered with Saria for strats outside S3
And debuff strats are pretty rare for me these days
at this point i value s3 over her other skills since personally don't tank much with her/healing defenders in general
its not a saria problem its just a archtype thing that i don't use much
@pallid veldt https://youtu.be/RiH0YM6zfKA?t=406
Theyre in a situation that I dont want Healing Defenders tanking anything ever
If Saria can tank it, the enemy isnt a huge issue at all
And thus warrant less need to use Defenders
Welp I tried having nearlter, chalter, and surtr slamming rathalos at the same time, twice, and it still didn't die, and I just eventually got folded. Idk how to deal with this damned thing
if that stupid flash did actually flash him he would have died
It works, you have to send the flash in front of it, not on it
don't know why it doesn't work on ultimate at the end
literally me
Yeah what sucks is actually just whiffing it, as I just did, again
Because yalter, nearlter, and surtr can't kill this thing
Are you supposed to wait for rathalos to walk up to your left side?
all allies -1 block
Chalter on melee tile: guhehe
i killed him when he was walking along the right side
If multiple nukers cant kill it, time to bring out buffers/debuffers
of the first part of the map
it takes a while for him to do that
i think i did like
and helidrop it all at once?
Just gonna get evaported 3 seconds later
i can try to set it up again, but he did have 50% left a bit under
but still nearly 50 after surtr texas yato eyja
dont kill him right when he walks out of spawn
adding mylnar dont know how much difference it will be
the 1st time
ah, why?
cause then you dont get any time to set up
Even someone obsessed with redep nukers like me bring Myrtle
mlynar + warf buff
with like
i dunno eyja s3 texas s2 and yato should probably be able to kill him pretty easily
but you need dp to set that up
Wait, rathalos just leaves?
I had it at nearly dead, it wiped my map, and just walked off
kill it in its nest
Welp that was a neat surprise
I like how much monster hunter stuff is encorporated
but also fuck that had way too much health
I should not need 2 of the best helidrop killers in the game being used 3 times each to kill one monster

and cause I got wiped one monster got through and ruined my auto
did you not notice that from normal map or did you kill it to fast
The MH special
wdym?
can enemies take your lives by entering other red zones?? I randomly lost 2 lives on one level
It's easier if u finish his 2nd phase in his nest
they dont
Weird, I did mountain tremors and lost 2 lives with no enemies getting through
Was normal cf9
I just hadn't seen it happen before, I usually died.
My strat was to chip his health, then when he was about to change map, finish his 1st phase
This time I got it so low it died to nearlter/surtr ganking it in it's bed almost instantly
You wanna see how much firepower i had to do on a max risk daily Pompeii?
What you said isnt exactly what i call excessive

idk why I can wrinkly brain many games, but arknights makes me struggle despite playing strategy games for so many years

Are you autoing the boss stage?
Yeah it doesn't but why else would they get wiped
Fitst clear maybe
Ah was in fact my first clear
I'm just used to if anything gets through I have done a fail
This is what I call necessary in max risk daily
That looks kinda mild
Honestly the only support I bring to most levels is kal'tsit and skalter
Using 4 nukers with no buffers/debuffers means content is weak sauce
sadly i haven't been able to get around to e2 warf
that would really help a lot
suzu is great tho
even better for these wide maps where aoe shine
Best buffers to consider are Aak S3 ane Warf S2
Aak tho means it has to be a semi tanky ground ops
Oh and Skalter S3 too
I do have aak and warf I just haven't invested in them
Debuffers are specific sometimes to damage types
I imagine skalter, aak, warf, suzu, and mudrock is probably a memey tank mess?
Or use shining for protection
Pram for all
Wastes dep slot
Id rather bring more buffers/debuffers/nukers
Does anyone have any base layouts for reclamation algorithm
Horribly wasted potential to not name yourself Kal'tsimp
Dragon can't be frozen right?
No but u can stun infinitely
true
which dragon, Rathalos?
yeah
@vernal lion this is dumb
can only stun with flashbang
eben s2 wipe it out
all the CM are dumb tho
it's all about stat check
was kinda funny doing this stage and just having mountain with s2 spawn camping bottom right and healing himself
Can i use ethan funny bind on EX-5 CM
Yes
I don't scare dangerous enemy,
I only scare about leaking enemy because goddamn they are so fast
I hate boars
Holy shit the boars and the birds are so goddamn annoying
true fact,
enemy with left and right DR: just hit from top or bottom kekw
How do i destroy the rock so i can get in the secret area
use t3 gatherer
So its T3 i put them on the wrong area. Thnx
I was new in the area i made them gather woods
I dont know where the alloys are
Thnx
tips,
if you want to mine wood, use t2 gatherer
if you want to mine stone and iron, use t3 gatherer
if you want water, craft wood into water collector
you use wood and water a lot here
@vernal lion i love fia
How do you access the secret area tho?
oh my fucking god
Bro put an operator to hit it 💀
destroy it
oh my god
The op has to be next to it I think
So need melee eh
Like the chapter 9 pillars
destroy it like you destroy the pillar in chap 9
@pallid veldt that was easier actually then letting him go to sleep
https://youtu.be/qq5kZmNiSmk?t=111

I thought everyone should be familiar to this
Naga losing his mind

Opened it thnx
fiaded
fiaded
for FC-EX-8 CM, Archetto S3 + Skalter S3 gets rid of all 4 swines, and they will be back in time for the next wave
at spawn
Warf might also work idk
imagine upkeeping your alts
I've missed several 10hh tickets on my alts
only log in when I somehow go a whole week without receiving clue 4

thats why intercept the raids
can confirm, even with few buildings, end2 raid lags for me
because 50 enemies spawning in same time is fun kekw
and my phone can handle jungle SSS without noticeable lag so this is just built different I guess
wait until you get 4 raids with ending 3 boss and it turns into annihilation with 400+ enemies
at that point I would just bring all AFK skills and pray
won't be able to activate manual skills on time 
Hmm yes
Why do you have 50 camo wall 
I stopid
me with 5 fireball dudes left,
turn x2 speed,
lagged
Yeah I never x2 speed in RA
Weather: normally, nothing happens
Rain in game: 
And the rain is actually a separate lawer
Layer
You can pause the game and move your screen around
Sandstorm doesn't give me a noticeable fps drop
But 30 mining drones
Yeah
That hurt real bad
that thing lags on a i9-13900kf and rtx4090 i don't know what the hell u need to run the game on so that ur RA base doesn't lag xD (bluestacks)
i seem to get slightly less lag on nox
still some sometimes tho
i aslo sometimes get crashes on both tho 💀
bird one tap your defender
literally what i just did
Tough matchup cm has been killing me the most. I can’t believe an easy stage could be this hard
Have you tried google play games for PC 
never
is it better?
It has limitations but I found it to run better on my laptop
Doesn't have keybinds but ahk is an easy workaround
I tried making an ahk script for automatically pressing skills in RA to save time but I wasted more hours making it that could’ve been spent playing the game
the classic spend hours to automate a 5 minute task 
That more of the game engine issues
#Arknights #アークナイツ #明日方舟
Soundtrack :
Arknights Ideal City OST - minima
As we can swe
See
1:56 timestamp
Red bird with rock is nuclear warhead 
Shit just keep getting lag
Soon she will be done
20% to survive till second bird with stone 
Tex dies too
They literally give you bombs
Meh
They have limits
Does IS4 use these birbs?
Theyre perfect for future bee colony maps

Flashbangs reload like 45 seconds. and god have mercy if you miss because bird with rock decided to turn around while you were aimimng 
And red bird do like 5000 damage or idk, big number
Wait flash bombs rely on them looking directly? Never knew that
I think it is, after throwing 3 in row into boss tail because bitch spins while deciding who he attacks now 
I think you just missed the bomb and used it on the wrong tile
Its range is a bit odd
1 tile less than kafka S2
It has 13 tiles visual after you use it, how the fuck do i miss 13 tiles?
You need to actually hit an enemy in that one tile for it to do splash damage
I use flashbang for STUN not DAMAGE 
So you telling me it stuns in literally 1 tile and 13 tiles wide animation is someone on hypergryph lulzing at you
It stuns in all the tiles
but only if there's an enemy in that one tile to hit
If it hits an enemy there it stuns everywhere

It's like if the bomb hits the ground nothing happens
But it plays flash animation if it misses, good game holy shit
if it hits an enemy it blows up
I haven't done EX yet
oh ye sharath
how is the difficulty
how many empty shit u need to fill for second 10 pulls
2
I haven't got a 6 star yet in nearly 50 pulls
gl
I don't want to sit down and parse through the in-game text wall
How exactly do you manage Rathalos phase 2?
also funny shit when I installed gpg I was testing it on a new acc and the free 10 pull gave yato 
What does that mean?
flash grenade
to down him
Okay
and do ur dps there
and ye
abuse device
the wirebug
for easy positioning of ops
holy crap, managed to one phase that relentless boss
Is this one of those "newer players just won't be able to beat this state, ever"
Cause phase 2 needs a lot of DPS
feels like it, yes
The MH boss? Borrows and devices go a long way
no not MH boss, the RA boss
Pretty sure there's a surtr solo EX 8 CM that isn't even that precise
grab surtr
"That" precise
So only a complete psycophat can do it then, lol
I am using Surtr
She doesn't do nowhere enough damage phase 2
@cunning river https://youtu.be/4FzOVBbqPWM?si=IYXxu2BIP9BG-dXh
Not optimize but enough
#sayuna #arknights #明日方舟
I mean more like you may still need a guide for the strategy but its not frame perfect
10 minutes
u can add other ops
Oh so you really do have to be crazy to do this
bruhe
that RA boss with 220 other units, frame perfect is impossible
Music used:
Black Soul 2 - Red Idol Pritckett Boss Theme
The issue is that phase 2 nearly all ops that need even a bit of time to charge their skill are kind of useless
The name is typod, it's CF
They're just going to die way before that
this might be potgated now that I think of it
Btw this is still for the normal stage, not EX
kek
use entire squad barely kill it
Yeah, there's no way in hell a new player could beat this
Also, I see what they're doing in the video
The wire resets ops skills, so you can have her indefinitely on the field
The device is basically an instant redeploy yeah
Honestly that's kind of why it's difficult stats wise
You're expected to abuse the hell out of 20 instant redeploys on any op you want
is ex stage open now?
I already farmed with today's sanity
so no EX stages for me
So the bigger question is how do you prevent leaking
Cause anything you put down will just fucking die
i hope you didn't die to sheeps on ex-1 
I'm still doing the normal stages

no medal ex stage medal for this collab right?
So how do you even do that then?
There's only 2 medals on my Collab if I'm correct
Why the fuck 

that's a lot of melee tile banned
Where's the medal list for this event?
Secret medals - Obtain cats, 3 star all normal stages
There's only two medals for the whole event
?
I guess it was the same for R6S, now I think about it
Kinda stupid because Ash from R6 literally throw the same flashbang with her skill
But not the same effect
if you want to mind wood, 3 t1 gatherers
if you want to mine stone and iron, 7 t1 gatherers
wth
i end up with like 200 wood and almost no stone and iron so i just have 15 t1 gatherers with me at all times
such a waste
what else are you using wood for
the important items that need wood also need stone
wood without stone is worthless
that's why this gamemode teaching you to know how to improve your managing skill when you just go waste everything

Game mode teach me than if it exists, i can probably mald it
Is that gatherer on top a BIS placement?
They’re gonna take a while reaching those far nodes
yes, that's why you will deploy them first
that works too, but you missed 1 stone
btw, the average collecting speed of t2 gatherer is 3.2 stones per run
and still depend on the distance
Also, I saw you recommended farming Stone With T3 gatherer
because the t3 has 4 drones,
the t1 and t2 only got 3 drones
you explore the further node first, to scout for rich resource map
That 50/120 one?
yes
50 metal 120 stone
If CM condition for EX-8 is pigs have more HP i'm fucking bringing chalter
Whats the advantage of outposts?
More ATK if you fight enemy in that exact zone. Basically yes but no
and if enemy squad HP is 10% or lower, they will be eliminated too
Which is meme because just having enough HP seals will make you never have 10% enemies
How do you place a sentry? I’m still not done with all the base tech
put 2 monitoring tower lv.2 in the node
yea, you will need the tech that gives you random exploring node
it's very good because you don't waste on the node that just gives lower tier food
Also, can you cheese the mode with Contact Hub L2?
Enter day 6 craft shit restart
Build Maginot line
it's escape route
Oh that is an amazing idea
you won't win but not also lose
Since Sentry nodes expand discovered range, does it allow skipping nodes?
skipping?
Like go directly to the edge of the range of the sentry
yea
That is great way to skip shit nodes and waste acts
that's why you can save your action
You don't even need to carry over shit to next run to abuse starting material bullshit, i just don't find that way entertaining
It is gonna be frustrating as hell, if tried
at least this gamemode is more fair than IS3 with everytime you have to encounter that Out of Control lol

Out of THEIR control 

I choose bottom one, if i die, i die greeding 
Fuck this flying potato code and this direction mechanic
Somehow i deployed Skadi on LEFT of boss but it splitboxed reality and end up between "tail on left" and boss
So she attacks from left but it counts as fuck if i know, not tail
how do I do cf-9 w/o surtr, I don't understand what is even happening
Funny dragon has funny 16 times as much HP in phase 2. Also you need flashbang event item or cry in corner
flash grenade?
I don't get how it's 1 shotting everyone I have even w/ spread + medics
Dragon is bitch and don't care for such stuff as being fair
"low end squad" video guide and has surtr xddddddddddddd
Well we fighting flying breefcase with 320k HP which 2 hit every op
Rhatalos target everyone it faces up, so when Rhatalos facing left, make sure u redeploy ur ops to right side the squishy one
Also flash granade 
yes I am spamming flash grenade but nothing happens
Ure not throwing Infront of him probably
it is right on top w/ aim
Did he fall?
Someone told me you need HIT something with flash in order for it to activate
Which is dumb
the throw part?
Hit what 
So after Rhatalos fall? What do you do?
Like you literally need to deploy grenade to there is enemy inside orange square or it don't go off 
so idk
This is sound weird af 
What diff
It just showing Wich is his front and back side, hit from the back for optimize damage
Oh wait, it show Wich side is weak point. Iirc the back side is whiter square
d15 ofc
FUCK THIS BOSS MAN
I trying to chen S2 him but he fucking spins 820 degree per second
i dont understand how this works
Just use the dragonfly dude
the what
Jet fuel and copium
Use dragonfly tools
what tool
wirebug
It can redeploy ur operator in split second
This, Ii don't remember thee name
No I don't need that I want to make him face another direction
for cleave
can't I bait it w/ last deploy position like some mob
WHY EX-8 CM TAIL HAS MORE HP THAN BOSS 
Nah, he'll just make a square around map. Just use the tools
Like it's kinda fixed

Idk brother
Even if u bait the attack, he still have AOE attack both melee and ranged
use barrels....like a goddamn Hunter
what
when downed
Boss attack whoever the fuck he likes to, and you move operators around because "holy fuck NG s3 CD is long" and bitch is constantly outside range of your operators
no he can't aoe if I just place away
so again I ask pls
how do I make him face one direction
away w/ cleave
HE ATTACK LITERALLY RANDOMLY
Block
bc I don't need the tools
HE DOESNT CARE
block does not do anything
He will turn and attack something on field
op just stand there
block does something
U can block him when he on the ground
Don't tell me u didn't want to use frigin Flash Granade
the goddamn story even tells you to use flash bombs on Rath

theres a reason its 45 sec cooldown
its so we can't cheese Rath that badly
It's the ultimate weapon
it does not
he just walk over
i am literally spam flash grenade
nothing happen
i don't know when he starts caring cause i remember him colliding with Mudrock when i dropped her in front of it.
just....don't drop them on the get go
but thats just Phase 1
phase 2 flies and just say fuck all to your blocking ideas
in other words....don't bother at all
yes only block on before first hp drop
after that it is useless
wtf does he just leave the map ?
last time i read his boss profile, there's no block count requirement
bro read pls i literally have all op on top and no block
But I'm sure he can be blocked
what barrel???
last gadget is AK's version of em
what is MH
the chain exploding bombs

but i cannot have the barrel
IT'S THE COLLAB
because i already have the grenade and drone robot
I'm dying
flashbang and barrels. The other 2 are shit
i do not know what this means
I just woke up and this shit 
Man Hunt
The wirebug ain't shit bruh
but other say use drone to move op?
so
it is if you can't make up your mind in deployment
How many barrels exactly. I never tried that tool
Didn't expect it will do something to 500k HP
ok i kill rathalos finally
almost immediate usage
man this stage suck so much
Wut
I do not understand what this mean
i use too many redep ops so wirebug does nothing for me
i mean, you get a surtr that can last more than 4 mins with wire bug
Maybe you're born too late. It's understandable 
yes i do not know what that mean
Fuck he doesn't know what arknights mean either, i quit
i have bad day to deal with this shit as well
Yes I do not know what that is?
so what's MH?
That's a PNNG
some new mobile game idk?
Dude probably hasn't born yet
It's still popular now I think?
WAS? HAHAHAHAHHAA
It is dark souls of cooking simulators
It still
Yes I do not know what that other game is
so what's MH?
I do not understand what you mean by sending me more picture of same thing
i mean, it dropped since last dlc release tbf
And recent releases of game came to PC so poor people can play it too now
?
Basically pokemon but the monster actually kills u
Yea it just that no one around me talking about it lately. I think the new one is still popular among the fans and community
I guess 2018 is a WAS, sure.
you also eat them
Rise....don't have easy numbers to get
rise is on switch right?
Problem is....it's not exactly graphically impressive
since it was Switch first
so its a port
it won't look as good as World
what people are waiting for is
World 2
or the next PC/Console MH
people pray its made in RE Engine
imagine....
if it didn't make me use Aak/Skalter S3/Shamare/Saria/Suzuran/Gnosis
it ain't shit
we'll see....

difficulty for me is how many buffers/debuffers i have to bring
if i bring 10 nukers with 0 buffers/debuffers, its not exactly difficult
Saria,suzu,qiubai,Mlynar and aak
I'm showing no mercy with my default "serious" squad
My investments in Lumen are well-placed
Thorns and Mudrock don't belong....cause they're laners
i still have to lane either way

my squad is just whatever
you know who i borrow for 13th?
M3 where
all of them do. It's not visible in that screen
I see
who

Suzuran I think
Myrtle
oh lul
Oh bruh..

just grab sail
you think i want to deploy slow?

Sail's S1 is only worth it in Annis
I chain bombed. Now what 
Myrtle wins the printing if the map ends faster
kill. chainbombing is just extra helping of free damage
one question with wirebug
does it replenish Initial SP?
does it count as a retreat?
it count as deployment for sake of Weedy module, it gives initial SP
holy shit it IS better than what i expected
yes
i can double the Surtr output
Who said you can do it only twice 
cause I'm better off using a different nuker
Bro you can even have three aak buff if you want meme 
retreat with 0 dp redeploy is epic
its more fun to do it blind
although i find it fun to watch Silvergun's video of H9-6 from time to time
cause that map is insane
wait
lemme see what Silvergun does for H11-4
I still haven't removed my 50 camo wall
HAHAHAHA Silvergun hates this H map more
i guess low rarity does hate trees
lack of redeploy nuke goodness
He goes low ops so he can't bring Ambriel to slowly kill all trees 
oh no wonder
i like this map
he does use more ops on H11-4
He find that stage boring
so it's still harder
but I suppose it's more interesting when you don't have to stall that long
H11-1 is the hardest one for him iirc
You compared 10 enemies map with 2 lanes to 45 with 3 
i mean my og statement was its the hardest map i know in story
H11-4 made me watch a guide

i didn't know he hated tree SK stage just cause its boring
And i just cooked
#strategy message
#strategy message
If Rathalos is damaged by an High-Energy Originium Barrel Bomb while asleep, it will take double damage for 1 second.
Just how long he stalled it lmao.
Dude is insane
I am not waiting till he go to sleep while under attack of 20 boars 
I'm investing on her for a reason. I have to make an actual tank stall representative sooner or later
I'm outta money for mod3 for now
ok wtf. Silvergun had insane Ethan luck on those well-timed binds
i have her
some of us in this channel
had a long talk on the best AFK physical tank
with maffs and all
and I just chose Hoshi as my preferred tank due to her potentially lasting more
🥐
Is Afk really necessary
considering tanking stalls need consistent bulk, yes
And it's not like niań gonna die out of skill
i mean thats why we considered Hoshi's S2 more alongside all her DEF modules
and this is measuring that she NEVER procs talent 1
she's behind Nian by a small margin due to her HP
but Hoshi with buffs have higher potential for tanking growth (higher DEF to inflate)
lets not forget lucky Talent 1 procs
but we tend not to measure that
but we shouldn't ignore it either completely
25% is 25%
we included Cement in the comparison
How much is the difference between hoshi Def with S2 and niań Def without s2
S2M3 Sora save my ass once again 
but she is not AFK-material
Nian survives with more HP, naturally
compared to Hoshi having less HP
Niań has utility too
utility i don't need
+130% Def too
I'm really not a fan of stalling that relies on defensive skill cooldown balance

there's potential
but that has to rely on the boss being slow to attack
and only having a dangerous 1 attack per set
I have shown you before niań can tank h11-4 boss in 2nd phase without her skill






