strategy

[celest bluff]

Lord have mercy on my phone

I can play Annihilation but not like this lord, not like this

[marsh drift]

if you build something in the base area, does it permanently stay for the next run?

[vernal lion]

yes

this is just some "annihilation"

[sly drift]

You can have Lin to up her skill like..every 25s and then still deal 3 digit damage with that long aspd Not recc

[sly drift]

Have you try the camo food

[vernal lion]

ofc

[sly drift]

It give you immunity to reflect damage iirc

[vernal lion]

no

[sly drift]

Never try tho

No?

[vernal lion]

reflect is reflect

just like when you use Hoshi s2 to counter the spike shooter enemy from SN event

[celest bluff]

Fuck vein guardian

[sly drift]

But I legit watched someone attack the reflect golem but receive absolute zero reflect damage what happened

[celest bluff]

Send video

[sly drift]

I think Pard on youtube have it.

But not only him I've seen other run deny the reflect damage too

[marsh drift]

does this game mode come back in future events?

[sly drift]

We don't know

[celest bluff]

The sp generator doesn't have block so enemy won't target it right

[sly drift]

Yea

[sly drift]

Some event like RA wasn't popular enough to have the sequel so I'm not sure RA will have it too.

[celest bluff]

I will literally make a 2 Lin lane, forcing enemy to go through it 2 times

[vernal lion]

you mean the firm platform?

op deploying on it won't take any dmg

[celest bluff]

What the hell in the spaghetti code

[vernal lion]

and they can't be healed too

[celest bluff]

Yeah heal count as attack

[sly drift]

That just bug isn't it

[celest bluff]

Please for the love of system optimization, reduce the entity counts

[sly drift]

Warf not even standing on tier 2 high ground

[celest bluff]

PLEASE

[vernal lion]

it doesn't matter as long as it's firm platform

[last blade]

Ask about RA, i can finish till day 6 (cause I don't have any ops that mod enough)
.
What is the best way to get many score? I just needs farm a little tokens

[celest bluff]

Kill everything, take everything

[vernal lion]

yea, just do a lot

[last blade]

Alr, i thought it based on objective

[celest bluff]

Become a menace to nature

[vernal lion]

victory gives even high score too

[celest bluff]

Yeah and cook all your ingredients and use up all your building before restart

[keen nymph]

is it worth to farm the unli mats on mh event or just dip aftear clearing shop?

[last blade]

Yeah I just started playin RA without guide, i guess need watch some now

[vernal lion]

just farm enough, because there is no mat in MH

[celest bluff]

I need those 20k lmd in the shop

20k × 19 left

[keen nymph]

These are kinda not worth to farm then?

[vernal lion]

is that RNG?

[keen nymph]

yep

[vernal lion]

I honestly don't like it

[keen nymph]

i finished the mats above now thinking if i should pour sanity on event or na

[vernal lion]

I didn't even clear the shop

how tf are you so fast

[keen nymph]

just spam auto

aight thanks

[vernal lion]

[last mist]

Ngl it sucks the infinite shouldve been a different pool

[boreal magnet]

The rng suckballs

And no rocks ffs

[foggy grove]

if they delete inf lmd and salt
it would have been decent

[vernal lion]

I just need device now

[unborn flax]

any tips to clear this ? is there any enemy building ?

[vernal lion]

left most: Mudrock or Colossus,
middle left: Rat King
middle right: Dorothy
right most: Crownslayer, but much better

[deft badger]

took like 2k sanity to clear it

[vernal lion]

@sly drift
admit, the camo food makes my Surtr immune to aoe dmg

Idk about reflect

but I think it still reflects dmg tho

[fierce hawk]

Also reflect

Iirc

[loud heath]

will penance reflect the guys reflect then reflect it again, then reflect?

[sly drift]

[fierce hawk]

[jovial nest]

Reflect isnt even the right word

More like revenge damage

Since they still take the damage dealt to them

[vernal lion]

[jovial nest]

You blocked the entire pathway?

[vernal lion]

my pusher pushed too hard lol

[loud heath]

poor dog

[loud heath]

yato tile mmm

[jovial nest]

Ya2's S2M3 true AoE is love

[loud heath]

s3

[jovial nest]

Ah that too

[pearl musk]

Can someone give the link to the ra maps?

[vernal lion]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XwLie_3aEvlGXwe9Y-sPe5TSTBHVRdgYLBjSSAGpKMk/edit#gid=0

[short surge]

any base build guide

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion cm condition feel shit

[glass monolith]

What is CM condition for Payday 2 collab?

[velvet drift]

Is this a good base design,funnelling enemies in this choke point and have enemy path from clockwise then counter clockwise to this funnel

[glass monolith]

Are you deleted? No? Good base

[velvet drift]

Deleted?

[glass monolith]

By raids

Also i don't see catapult counter messure, they will start attacking rightmost ranged OP tower

[sly drift]

Just build that cross shaped wall with t2 wall at the corner

I think that's the most effective way to counter catapult. Also less mats needed.

[velvet drift]

It's a closed loop

[sly drift]

Have you try it against catapult?

[velvet drift]

Not tested yet,just finished building it

[sly drift]

You use t1 highground tile they will start attack that

[celest bluff]

Should I?
I didn't craft this

[sly drift]

Maybe

But I would just feed her atk+% and have her using fast redeploys device everytime I want to use her

Waaay effective

[celest bluff]

I know how effective that is

But this is free

[sly drift]

Imo just use it to sexas or yato

[latent monolith]

Fast redeploy device is 10 wood, for surtr honestly I'd prefer that

texas yato likes redeploy more yea (and the hp too)

[scarlet ledge]

sheesh

[celest bluff]

The crane make Surtr a more terrifying Texalt

Or if you really want to do it
-16 dp cost surtr and crane

[winter nebula]

Do I have answer the treasure hunter a specific answer in stage for second ending?

[fierce hawk]

HAHAHAAH yeah

She could literally solo the whole stage

[lyric dagger]

I haven’t been able to get the second ending for RA, it’s based on rng right?

[glass monolith]

You need to gain shit ton of events to trigger but yes, rng

[sly drift]

I've been through 3 wins and still not enough encounter for 2nd or 3rd ed

Currently on 4th run

[glass monolith]

i don't go for wins after first because i don't feel like i gain anything from it (i don't recall the F boss gives )

[sly drift]

The artefact carry over if you win the run so it's technically easier to get other ed this way.

But for fuck sake not like this long

[glass monolith]

well, i won once, i use carry over from base building

[turbid badge]

what artefact

[sly drift]

How much % do we get from Spectre mods? Anyone remember?

[glass monolith]

Not enough

[sly drift]

The items to unlock other ed. Idk what it's called

[glass monolith]

Story tokens can be only manually discarded

[sly drift]

Yea.. "Tokens"

[dry skiff]

God
Finally im at end2

Jesus Christ
That took me like fucking 15 runs

[plucky flint]

5% mod3 iirc

[vernal lion]

what is it

[sly drift]

I mean the AH related buff

Is it 5% more attack and that's all?

[plucky flint]

Ye

[sly drift]

[foggy grove]

is it dmgscale?

[sly drift]

Final damage +5% iirc.

[pallid rivet]

wow at this rng rate ill never clear the MH event shop XD constantly hitting the unlimited mats

[plucky flint]

I don't think there's a faction buff that is a dmg scale

[sly drift]

It said "Deal more damage" wasn't it?

[foggy grove]

i mean ah is their golden child

wouldn't surprise me

[plucky flint]

Oh it's actually dmg dealt

It's not that bad for 5%

[sly drift]

We still have Ulpian as final card anyway

[plucky flint]

Too bad she needs to be deployed tho

[foggy grove]

people cope ulpian as reaper then exe stole his thunder

[plucky flint]

Bro ah reaper would be disgusting

[sly drift]

I think Ulpian will be that new archetype

[plucky flint]

Look at all buffs he gonna get

[sly drift]

Centurion with no def. Crusher or something

It will fit his weapon

I want to see ulpian with 17k hp and 0 def

[scarlet ledge]

cliff skill cd decrease

[celest bluff]

How do I negate this

[winter nebula]

Is there a guide somewhere for getting all tokens?

[celest bluff]

@sly drift
What do you mean "no"

[sly drift]

Because you can't negate weather

[fringe jackal]

finally, after like ten tries, a level 80 chongyue borrow brings the annihilation victory to me

[celest bluff]

I literally can cook egg where I live and I still alive
What do you mean it not possible

[vernal lion]

he doesn't even need CD bruh

[novel pivot]

kindly ask the sun to leave

weather negated

[sly drift]

Idk what answer did you expect. You ask if you can negate weather and you get the straight answer

[turbid badge]

Use a medic?

[sly drift]

[turbid badge]

also you can just use Lin

[celest bluff]

The medic die

[turbid badge]

if u have her

she negates the arts

[celest bluff]

This is what you should told me first @sly drift

[sly drift]

Yeah my bad bro. I didn't understand you clearly enough

[celest bluff]

[novel pivot]

lin negates the sun by being hotter

[turbid badge]

but the arts damage is only for 10 seconds

just be better

lin s2

[celest bluff]

My medic usually die

[turbid badge]

actual use

Wow

too bad i didnt get her

[sly drift]

Yea you basically just deploy NG and problem solved. 75art dmg isn't that big

[celest bluff]

No, this is CoC so I using her S3 to mine rocks

[turbid badge]

oh

i just deploy like 2 tier 3

[celest bluff]

Shield generator?

[turbid badge]

And mlynar

[celest bluff]

I don't have Mlynar

[sly drift]

What medic did you use that it dies

Yea S2 shield generator NG will be useful

[turbid badge]

how much hps is myrtle

18?

[celest bluff]

Who is NG

[turbid badge]

Nightingale

[novel pivot]

nightingale

beeg arts protecc

[celest bluff]

Damn I don't have

[novel pivot]

if you never want to farm material just minmax your base over 2 hours

[turbid badge]

[novel pivot]

[turbid badge]

Me

soon

i got lazy

and dont wanna play until mlynars e2 so he can mine f4ever

[celest bluff]

I will max out the base

[turbid badge]

i just need a few more camo and nettraps

[novel pivot]

Starting mat meta

[celest bluff]

Yeah but I won't do that

[turbid badge]

I spent like a hour making inital layout with ranged tiles

[novel pivot]

true pain is building 10 t2 net launcher

[turbid badge]

well not really a hour but like a long time yea

[turbid badge]

it felt so good when i had enough to make 10 t2 walls

[novel pivot]

1. Enter run
2. Buy wood from market
3. Harvest water
4. Build net launcher

Repeat 10 times (and dont die of boredom)

me fr

[turbid badge]

Market?

with gold

[novel pivot]

Ye

[turbid badge]

Why

[novel pivot]

Faster

Starting mat is only 5 wood off

[turbid badge]

oh

[novel pivot]

Or 10

[fringe jackal]

I had 700 gold left by the time I finished reclamation algorithm points
don't be me

[turbid badge]

i just go into a node with water and wood

[novel pivot]

I forgor

[turbid badge]

and bring a whole army

[fringe jackal]

oh wait, I had 1000 gold left

[novel pivot]

[fringe jackal]

you can also buy water too

[novel pivot]

i got 300 gold from reset scumming

[fringe jackal]

and meats

[turbid badge]

whats gold reslly for

[novel pivot]

and sometimes u find encounter where you can sell all wood for 60 gold

[turbid badge]

imjust mats from libon?

[fringe jackal]

building material, meat and constructs

[novel pivot]

Black market, encounters

You can give away 100 gold to a poor person

[turbid badge]

ah that really sucks i thought they had some other value guess it wasnt bad buyinng stone from libon at the start

[fringe jackal]

you can also buy lamb chops or whatever to cook extra stamina foods

[novel pivot]

[novel pivot]

Where you buy those?

[fringe jackal]

once you do manticore's storyline

[turbid badge]

whats ur favorite foods to make that are really easy

[fringe jackal]

she appears as an NPC in the black market selling the lamb chops and puffball and stuff

[turbid badge]

oh noce

never go hunting lambs again

[novel pivot]

oh dat

i only went 6k points and never look back

[sonic willow]

-8dp bro

[novel pivot]

Afk base setup

[turbid badge]

honestly i think ima do that

[novel pivot]

This entire event is just an ifrit camp simulator

[turbid badge]

i wish ra was permanent but its not so

[turbid badge]

lol

wish i have fia and horn

to add to the chaos

[sly drift]

Dont worry it will "permanently" gone with no sequel

[novel pivot]

or so they say

Trust is6

[sly drift]

We will have DOS event soon.

Pray it will be good mode

[turbid badge]

Its just like

[novel pivot]

watch RA come back permanently but for leviathan only

Bring 3 teams or die

[fringe jackal]

Surely they wouldn't spend a shitload of time developing some game mode that is basically a whole nother game and only show it once, right?

[novel pivot]

Nice copege

[turbid badge]

right..

[novel pivot]

throw more money at haimao and maybe he'll hear you

[fringe jackal]

too late, unity decided to rip off devs by charging money for each install
1 person rerolling will bankrupt everyone

[sly drift]

Well.. remember that Multiplayer mode two years ago.

[novel pivot]

just rally cn community

or jp

[sly drift]

It just so bad no one wants it

[novel pivot]

honestly overwhelm them with whelpower

[sly drift]

And that Minos event I dont remember what it called.

[novel pivot]

no no you don't understand

that was just to bring you the authentic ubisoft experience

[sly drift]

Yea It's very good at being bad

[turbid badge]

was it even fun

[novel pivot]

minos event was the only event i can think of with an enemy that had true dmg resist

to this day hg refuses to touch true damage

[sly drift]

Everyone curse it

[turbid badge]

Lmaoo

[weak gazelle]

the ubisoft experience(?)
ohh that shitty multiplayer mode

[celest bluff]

WELL THAT IS FUCKING HELPFUL DOESN'T IT

[sly drift]

Broken compass give you one more "act" each day.

[turbid badge]

at day 9

[sly drift]

[celest bluff]

Which 2 day later is day 11

[sly drift]

Well. You bring it over next run if you win final day

So it's worth if you get that

[celest bluff]

Okay I take that back

So how I beat the first boss

With a none existence base

[sly drift]

How bad is your base exactly

Literally nothing?

[turbid badge]

Can u keep bringing compass

?

or when u use its gone or smth

ive never gotten it

[sly drift]

Idk but I have like 5 tokens in from my previous run (Which I win) to my current run. I never get the compass one tho

Compass is rare

[glass monolith]

Beat it

[sly drift]

What boss

Immortal?

[celest bluff]

Raid? On day 13

To get the algorithm completed ending

Victory condition?

[sly drift]

My ace card to win the first boss is simply Hoshiguma (T3 def food) with 2 healer and Saria behind her. That's it. Maybe you can recreate it using Cuora or other defender.

[celest bluff]

Token have 2 type
By Chance and By Fate

I have Saria e2lv30

Hoshi e1lv80

[sly drift]

Not sure if Saria can tank it. But cuora e2l60 surely can. She's tougher than Saria

[glass monolith]

My ace against first boss is "Imagine being 1 block physical enemy without stun immunity"

[celest bluff]

Wait hold on

That the last wave?

That's it? That the lord raid?

[glass monolith]

first boss is 169 enemies wave

Second boss is "TREASURE ASS B- WHERE ARE YOU?"

I will end up building explosion immune base faster than find ending 2 triggers

[celest bluff]

That is the victory condition?

[glass monolith]

Kill boss raid

Maybe all other raids as well but it is 99% they arrive before boss to you base

[sly drift]

There's no victory condition. You just have to kill the final boss. To get the ending.

That's the Victory condition

[celest bluff]

I mean how bad is that boss really

[glass monolith]

Half of his raid are crushers

[halcyon stratus]

Phase 2 he get speed and aspd

[sly drift]

It means you need more Art damager

[celest bluff]

Sounds like something for fast redeploy Surtr

Lin

Dusk

[halcyon stratus]

"everything should be smashed" could ruin your day

[celest bluff]

And Texas to give me breathing room

[sly drift]

I usually just use Qiubai with 3sp device. She's pretty useful

[halcyon stratus]

Boss 700k hp right?

[glass monolith]

Ending 1 is when you think "should be smashed" is bad.
Ending 2 is when you miss them already

[celest bluff]

How does it targeting work

[glass monolith]

If it in my range, attack. Focus buildings in range first. Crit against buildings

[celest bluff]

I can just deploy fort to bait

Actually nah, I abort this run
Too tired

Grab everything and go

Maybe next time I get broken compass since day 3

[tropic valve]

yeah forts can tank end1 catapults much better than end2 arts damage

[halcyon stratus]

The guardian vein raid is pain

Or something big moving rocks

[sly drift]

I actually have my base like this and zero issue.

[keen mortar]

yea i just kill the guardians in base I don't ever try to kill them in the wilderness anymore

[keen mortar]

the metaslave layout

[sly drift]

No catapult will ever attack wall

[celest bluff]

Kalsit can kill it

Easily

[sly drift]

Metaslave?

[keen mortar]

#help message

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nvm it's a varaition of that

[sly drift]

I don't give a hell about metaslave thing
I just want to redirect enemies to one place so I can mlynar it

[celest bluff]

I GOING TO BUILD A WALL AND FORCE MY ENEMIES TO PAY FOR IT (loot gold from their bodies)

Be damn with the resources efficient shit

[weak gazelle]

ohh peeps here still grinding RA

[sly drift]

Finished the rewards days ago. Still finding ed2 and ed3

[keen mortar]

TIL ashlock can perfectly kill the last originium slug in 1-7 thus saving 0.01s /s

[celest bluff]

You can't be serious

[turbid badge]

noce

[sonic willow]

Farming 1-7 in 2023

[celest bluff]

Born too late to understand what good about 1-7

[sly drift]

I think you miss one frame which is not perfect. Try again

[weak gazelle]

such dedication
well it matter if grind 1-7 for morbillion times

[lethal dragon]

Why'd I raise ashlock for a single lane of 1-7

Just raise Penguin for fastest clear

i didn't

[clever kernel]

Imagine having penguin

[lethal dragon]

I have p4 or 5

[clever kernel]

top.op stole her from me

[lethal dragon]

Which is why I won't raise her

She spooked me on ceobe

How dare she

[clever kernel]

At least I got better luck on the superior units

[lethal dragon]

Like ace

Wait he died

[clever kernel]

What the fuck do you have againts ace

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/845740995999825960.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[steep tartan]

Noooo Ace :(

[clever kernel]

He's literally the most inoffensive character

and really based

[celest bluff]

I mean because he just die without doing anything much, how can he be offensive

[lethal dragon]

^^^

[clever kernel]

Smh, saving the future of Terra is nothing he said

[lethal dragon]

I was just talking about your luck

[celest bluff]

Wait what the fuck

[flat sapphire]

~~why'd he die then? ~~

[clever kernel]

too based to exist

[steep tartan]

[clever kernel]

the game couldn't handle him as a Playable character so Hai Mao needed to off him

[celest bluff]

I don't have anything against him either but die in like the first 15 minute of the game feel like a disposable side character

[flat sapphire]

~~ too weak to live ~~

[clever kernel]

If he was disposable why did they add backstory on vigilo

[lethal dragon]

So basically they decided he is better dead than alive

[clever kernel]

True

He is plot device for doc

Same with scout

Character development momen

[flat sapphire]

Coz he'd be a shit op otherwise

[clever kernel]

Ace as an op would tank tal fireball but dies on phase 2

Skill duration ended

[flat sapphire]

Using ace forces u to lose coz u retreat without him in the story

[clever kernel]

[celest bluff]

How big of a deal if you're getting shot at by guns wielder but the bunch doesn't have any halo on theirs head

[clever kernel]

Anyways, now that I think about it, can any defender tank tal fireball solo?

[flat sapphire]

Not much different coz a gun is a gun

[clever kernel]

You get sentenced by the church

Real answer is that, you're fighting againts one hell of an arts user or a BS officer. Gun license is a thing and the church need to deliver it

[celest bluff]

Uhhh
Small arms on Terra have questionable quality, some can blow up the whole city block while some can't even neutralize the threat

[clever kernel]

Me when magik

[turbid badge]

theres arts defenders

[flat sapphire]

I mean u'd still hella die if u get shot by a gun

[clever kernel]

Can they tank without heal?

hoshi can prob dodge all of em tho kek

[celest bluff]

A real gun
Even a fucking black powder musket is more consistent with their damage than Originium firearms

[sonic willow]

Mudrock survives fireball

[clever kernel]

[flat sapphire]

Liberi can use them fine. Or some of them anyway. Halo doesn't mean shit

[sonic willow]

Units behind her tho

[flat sapphire]

It's more about their arts control or something

[clever kernel]

~~ she didn't on tn4 ultimate for me~~

[flat sapphire]

So if they can wield a gun then they probably could kill u

[clever kernel]

Omg u read lore?

[celest bluff]

probably

[flat sapphire]

No i just deduced that knowledge

[celest bluff]

Time to watch Lord of war

The ATF in Columbia is Alcohol, Tobacco and Originium something

So it is ATO

Doesn't have the same ring to it

https://youtu.be/9XQknYhSLfg?si=QTC20feMLz1FznfN

[clever kernel]

Accurate longsword usage

[turbid badge]

blacksteel guns

iberian guns

[clever kernel]

Me when faith

[glass monolith]

Nobody:
Drone: Why do i hear music from MGS:Revengence?

[celest bluff]

More acceptable

[sly drift]

Good try but you can see the last slug is still "moving" which is not perfect frame of win.
I meant is as a joke but whatever

[heady hedge]

if he time better

its frame perfect

[sly drift]

Yea.. It still can be better but man you don't need to actually do it

[heady hedge]

but its still slower then mag

mag 1 op means faster loading time iirc

[sonic willow]

Just Farm rocks from event

[sly drift]

Maybe chen can do better job since chen s2 is instant with no start up

[heady hedge]

ashlock needs 2 ops

no

chen needs 2 op

also chen s2 has like

you need to time it abit

iirc

theres a few frames

that she takes before s2 launches

[sly drift]

Of course. But it's easier than Ashlock for sure

My bad but it's "Almost instant" not exactly instant the time you click the button

[velvet drift]

Wanna ask,can these guys be silenced?

[foggy grove]

it doesn't have silence immunity

but the reflect thing is another matter

[dry skiff]

Ending 2 is alot easier than i expected

Ending 1 is more terrifying

Well granted i did have like 4 busted frd

4 secs frd Skadi basically perma stall the fucker

[celest bluff]

That ass have 4 days to get to my base

Which I would like to see the fucker try

Currently at phase 2 but like

What he can do with 16 troops left

[dry skiff]

End2 too?

[glass monolith]

When i had ending 1 my base was 3x3 box around base. My Ending 2 will have hell full of long ass path under constant Ambriel Goldenglow abuse with Fia traps

[winter nebula]

Ending 3 the only token I have to get rid of is treasure map right?

[celest bluff]

No this is the first time I see the boss

Yeah

I will definitely kill the boss outside the base

[dry skiff]

Damn, alot of raids

[glass monolith]

If it is boss 1, good luck killing his phase 1+2 in one go, if you get him to phase 2 he won't let you deploy in time on those 5 tile long raid maps

[vernal lion]

oh my lord, the red golem

[glass monolith]

I crafted 250 gold last run because i run out of rock to build walls

[vernal lion]

have you seen this

[glass monolith]

I hope you had clusterf- ready on base

[vernal lion]

[glass monolith]

I just got brain rush idea for bottom right of base, you gonna love it if i ever recall it later

In nutshell "2 SP on skill issue food is funny" + some melee tile operator who i can and who is good at stalling

[vernal lion]

man I hate ending 2 boss so much lol

[dry skiff]

end2 isn't that bad tbh

easier than end1 atleast

[vernal lion]

but not the red golem lol

[dry skiff]

lucky that i didn't got golems on mine

is that 2 raids or u just happen to got a golem?

[vernal lion]

[vernal lion]

yes

at least I have a ton of toys

@glass monolith

[glass monolith]

I had 14 at end of my last run, took only 8 because i forgot to invest into escape briefcase size because "commence algorithm" locks you from unlocking even if you didn't pick anything over it

[timid acorn]

how about Ending 3 with golem raid

[vernal lion]

I still haven't encountered that lol

even unlock ending 3

mf Passenger keeps dodging me

[fierce hawk]

200% enemies

Rip

[fierce hawk]

Oh shit

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

[vernal lion]

truly annihilation moment

[fierce hawk]

Its doable if the mobs are weak ass

But what if

It's all reflect and golems

[vernal lion]

yes, not the golem tho

golem is so fucking tanky

[fierce hawk]

Fr, atmost it would cause is lag if the mobs are weak asf

[fierce hawk]

And hits hard

[sonic willow]

What does 400% mean

[fierce hawk]

Even with arts damage + ifrit lane it doesn't do much

[vernal lion]

Surtr deals like 1 pixel

[fierce hawk]

4x enemies....

4 raids coming at you at the same time

[fierce hawk]

The best helidrop

Does 1 pixel damage

LMAO

[sonic willow]

Unholy level of cringe

[fierce hawk]

Gang

[fierce hawk]

Drone is from silence?

[celest bluff]

I preemptive building fort in his path

Which give me +15% atk

[fierce hawk]

Is silence e2 good? I feel like I've over invested in medics, since most medics are useful (each archetype has different purpose),unlike other classes

[celest bluff]

I killed the vein guard

[fierce hawk]

Rosmontis literally carried me in RA

Block + stun

• ifrit lane

Since I don't have surtr

[celest bluff]

I don't have Irfit

[glass monolith]

Silence S2 saved my dumb ass which fails at being basic humon and can't deploy operators in range of medics

[sonic willow]

If you have more invested medics than this, probably yes

[vernal lion]

this map is pretty easy lol

[fierce hawk]

Your e2 are my e2

Except lumen

Don't have that one

[sonic willow]

then you're probably doing fine

[fierce hawk]

Yep

Need NG and lumen tho

Also need a 6 star elemental healer

If there is one

[celest bluff]

I pretty sure that I don't supposed to have 3 act in day 12

[sonic willow]

WM is like so pointless tbh

[vernal lion]

Eyja alter, but kinda long time waiting

[fierce hawk]

You xan get 3 act, with relic iirc

[sonic willow]

idk, very very few maps I even consider using them

and even fewer maps where I actually use them

[fierce hawk]

Yeah but it's so damn useful in it's niche

Like dealing with fireball

Or nervous impairment thinggy

Or the water poison thing (DH-MO-1)

[sonic willow]

Only times I actually used WM is in CC8 and the UT/SN annihilation

[fierce hawk]

I'll probably get this, it's near typhon banner tho

Hopefully I get both

[sonic willow]

Don't think I used them once for burn dmg

[fierce hawk]

Always hated CC, the mode just takes too long

[celest bluff]

Can I still kill him now

[fierce hawk]

Your tank is probably high leved, cause it can take burn damage

Most e1 tank struggle with burn damage + mobs hitting at the same time

[celest bluff]

Or here

[sonic willow]

Mon3tr can take burn procs no problem yeah

[fierce hawk]

6 star tanks handle it pretty easily tho

[fierce hawk]

If only mon3tr doesn't take deployment slot

Would have been a great unit to use in every stage

[sonic willow]

Just wait in base 💀

[dry skiff]

oh wow
you're actually building outposts?

[celest bluff]

Convenient

If possible I would slap 2 recon tower in that same place

THOU SHALT NOT PASS

[deft ingot]

Can someone help me out with 2-10

[sullen rover]

roster?

[deft ingot]

[glass monolith]

Use funny regen tiles on right side.
Try to use Melantha or any other operator who good at 1v1ing those casters to kill them before they stack up or advance
For left side i would recommend deploying blocker next to blue box instead (or recalling blocker from regen tile when boss walk up to you) and have enough casters/snipers/medics to sustain it
Sniper + medic + potential replace of blocker on right of blue box later for drones/molotovs

[jovial nest]

ok so gathering hubs\

whatever resource i can make, is the resource they're good at getting?

[deft ingot]

I don't get it

[jovial nest]

like if its crafted from wood, they get wood better?

[deft ingot]

[jovial nest]

and the stone one gets stone better?

[sullen rover]

yeah

[deft ingot]

Brb

[jovial nest]

cause the wording of thickets and monoliths annoy me

[sullen rover]

they mine faster

[bold lance]

That is indeed what their description says

[jovial nest]

yeah instead of saying Wood....it just had to pick Thickets

[sonic willow]

yea

[jovial nest]

should i gamble it and just use one FRD on easier maps?
or just use one FRD even on more challenging resource maps?

[sonic willow]

I just have lots of farms and bring a whole squad

[jovial nest]

Texter and Ya2 are being the forefront of my farmers but that also has the con of making it harder to keep stamina up.

I guess its time for me to start using actual laners for resource gathering

Mlynar and the sorts

[sullen rover]

you probably want to use the gathering hubs instead

[vernal lion]

and if you don't want to care, just craft and stack lots of t3 gatherers

[jovial nest]

i do

[vernal lion]

[jovial nest]

but i still need scouters and defenses

against mobs that kill hubs

[vernal lion]

once you have known well to map, it would be pretty easy to do

[vernal lion]

without a single op

[celest bluff]

I got the luck of not need to deal with multiple enemy wave but

What the fuck

[sullen rover]

simply kill the thing

[vernal lion]

funny enough, if you encounter that outside your main base, and having +11 HP, then feel free to leak them

[glass monolith]

Finally found it on 10th page of stupid search
#strategy message

[frail wagon]

You can try spectral + casters if you have em or simply just leak em with +HP

also does anybody know the best food you can made

[vernal lion]

for whom purpose

[frail wagon]

ATK increase and deployment time decrease for Surtr I think

[sullen rover]

its like 3 gold meat iirc

[vernal lion]

3 fungus are +50% atk and camo

[sullen rover]

oh

[lethal dragon]

Bruh how did młynar survive 3 farts
https://youtu.be/TzOnJhZArjk

[vernal lion]

2 fungus + 1 tenderloin are -50% redeploy

[deft ingot]

I can use other characters right?

[sullen rover]

yeah

if youre having trouble simply deploy mlynar(borrow) and activate his skill

[lethal dragon]

Nope you must follow every single Step including device model and room temperature and weather etc

[glass monolith]

Well yes. But it still preferably to deploy 2 block vanguard where i deployed 2 block vanguard instead 30 DP cost Eunectes

[jovial nest]

I should consider Thorns during these farming sessions on areas with denser enemies

his range would help the farm too

[lethal dragon]

In Ra?

[deft ingot]

Alright I'll come back with the results

[sullen rover]

arent you better off with like sa/mlynar for range afk ops r pretty bad in ra ngl

[lethal dragon]

Mhm

[jovial nest]

SA's S3 cooldown? in hot climate?

worth it?

[vernal lion]

yes

he's good for wood farming

[glass monolith]

10 second stun weather is so f- shit

[lethal dragon]

You can also use horn
And eyja too

[sly drift]

Just did some meth and find out mod 3 ash actually do over 3900 more damage than without module against enemy with A def (And below) in one S2 cycle

[lethal dragon]

Me when I am in a conflicting zone and my operators randomly gets stunned

Also qiubai is really good for farming

[vernal lion]

Me when I am in conflicting zone and my operators got killed by thunder weather and fireball dude

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936171417018462250.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[sly drift]

The fact that you can't even deny it using Lumen

[lethal dragon]

Me when all 3 thunder balls aim for my medic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/441706097636671508.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[vernal lion]

[sly drift]

Mountain the last Airbender

[jovial nest]

I had to get REALLY creative defending this shit map

[vernal lion]

spider and dog spam

[glass monolith]

Farming thunder CoC with Chalter.
Chalter can survive 2 thunders.
3 thunders overlap: "Hehe Boi"

[vernal lion]

[glass monolith]

Try to defend on Bob's map. 0 ranged tiles. 4 directions

[jovial nest]

One action used to counter this raid and only used 2 fortifications. Success.

[lethal dragon]

Worst map gotta be fucking Pompeii one

[vernal lion]

me, with 3 camo foods:

[lethal dragon]

But ranged tiles are nonexistent there

[vernal lion]

it still depend on where the nest is

[sly drift]

Surt works btw

Surt twice

[celest bluff]

I lost

[vernal lion]

Surtr twice or Irene all times

[celest bluff]

TO THE FUCK ROCK

Note to self
More casters

Way more casters

[jovial nest]

thing with colossus stats are

[sly drift]

Sniper works better than caster against colossus

[jovial nest]

their def ain't great either

[sly drift]

Yea

[jovial nest]

its just that their HP is way too much

[vernal lion]

no, more dmg

[jovial nest]

they were built to die on those TW towers

due to % HP damage

[sonic willow]

who do you bring for hunting @jovial nest

[celest bluff]

Tw?

[timid acorn]

which sniper are you using for colossus

[jovial nest]

Texter and Ya2.
I'm trying to cut that down to 1 once i get to know a map more

[celest bluff]

I mean who else here
Exu

[sly drift]

Sniper with highest ceiling damage. Exu ash works

[jovial nest]

some say 0 but it really depends on map

[glass monolith]

Tails of Suzu event One with funny mudrock boss fight and golems all over the place

[celest bluff]

What does TW tower mean

[glass monolith]

I know TW is twilling of something starting on W, don't care

[sly drift]

Qiubai works too. You can give her SP device if you have her

[vernal lion]

Twilight of Wolumonde

[glass monolith]

TW tower is tower mechanic, which we all ate shit from at TN-3 week ago

[jovial nest]

Twilight of Wolumonde.
Minus, cmon....

[timid acorn]

You're really underestimating Colossus def if you use Marksmen

[sly drift]

I love Qiubai she's useful af on RA

[jovial nest]

when i said DEF ain't too high, i didn't say you can use Marksmen

[celest bluff]

Well at least I comeback stronger

[sonic willow]

ahh alright

[jovial nest]

what i meant to say was you didn't really need to go caster

[celest bluff]

Mine is e1

[timid acorn]

it was more a response to this

[jovial nest]

and someone had the bright idea to use Weedy and make things much smoother at the cost of 1 slot used

i wish i did

they're only highest ceiling when you bring way too many buffers debuffers

you can just go Poze or Chalter

[celest bluff]

Why the fuck I don't remember shits happened weeks ago

[timid acorn]

yes, those definitly work

[sly drift]

With slight buff Exu will do completely fine.

Better than "Caster"

[glass monolith]

Someone shoperatored Weedy in 2022 saying "My genius, is almost frightening"

[jovial nest]

Don't diss my Ceobe. She's waiting for the time Surtr's redep is too long and Texter/Yalter are not enough, and Eyja's S2 and S3 is not enough too

[sly drift]

Oh yea. Ceobe with mod is

[jovial nest]

For base, I would.

[sonic willow]

does monitoring tower buff my ops?

[vernal lion]

nope

[sonic willow]

oh so the buffs are for itself? 💀

[jovial nest]

does map change when enemies occupy it?

[deft ingot]

It works just like u said

[vernal lion]

no it's the same

[jovial nest]

good

[celest bluff]

Got Miserly Trap and Treasure in the trees
I eating good now

Unfortunately
Logging Taxation

So the zone is random or it will reveal 2 next zone

[sonic willow]

wait, what happens if I let pompein in my base

will that fuck destroy everything 💀

[vernal lion]

is that Mountain Pass?

[celest bluff]

Where

[vernal lion]

you need to kill the Nest

to get the full reward

[dry skiff]

next

[celest bluff]

Well that would be useless af

[dry skiff]

fr

[sonic willow]

talking to me or the other guy?

[vernal lion]

you

[dry skiff]

pretty sure pompei don't go out of his stage

[sonic willow]

wait... yeah actually

[vernal lion]

this is how the Nest looks like

[dry skiff]

and if he actually goes out
your base is pretty much screwed from his range

[sonic willow]

I thought pompei was going closer as the day progress

but now the mobs next to base node is different 💀

pompei disappeared wtf

so I have to beat pompei in its own map pretty cringe

[dry skiff]

thats because the raid is in his stage that's why its showing
he doesn't actually goes out from his stage
most shit doesn't

just like big ugly

[sonic willow]

ahh

[vernal lion]

you don't want to encounter raid in boss map

[sonic willow]

right, would be too hard 💀

does the run end after this linebacker guy reaches base node

[dry skiff]

linebraker is the boss of end1
after killing him is the end of the run

[shy gate]

Guys, where the blue box located in this map?

[dry skiff]

bottom left

[sonic willow]

ahh hmm, don't think I'm getting it this time

[dry skiff]

getting what

[sonic willow]

no wood to get water no water to cook shit

the clear

[dry skiff]

thats why u should have prepared those shit before the boss came

[shy gate]

Thanks

[sonic willow]

true

[vernal lion]

unlock this token, he will sell water too

[sonic willow]

are those permanent

[vernal lion]

yes

[dry skiff]

man if only tokens can be obtained just from wanting it to be unlocked

[sonic willow]

mmm that's nice

[vernal lion]

the only tokens left of mine are from ending 3

[jovial nest]

....so someone recommended me to buy Camo Device on Liaison

and after reading it.....

can these work on hubs?

[vernal lion]

yes

all allies, even NPC

[jovial nest]

so if there's a nook in a good resource spot that no enemy goes into, yeah that'd be perfect

[vernal lion]

In my experience, you should save wood and go wasting on stone and iron

especially if you want to craft gatherer

[jovial nest]

but high platforms use stone too

[vernal lion]

t1 and t2 gatherer are only 3 robots,
while t3 are 4 robots

[jovial nest]

whats the play? first runs just build tons of gathering and firm platforms can wait a bit longer?

food and hubs?

[vernal lion]

yes

just food and hubs

[dry skiff]

what are u using the stuff for?
building the base?

[jovial nest]

high platforms use stone and wood

cheapest one to build to reroute enemies

[dry skiff]

can't u just reset spam it

[vernal lion]

if you have completed the base, you only care about hubs and food for next run

[dry skiff]

instead of farming it yourself

[glass monolith]

Happy 2-10 win i guess?

[vernal lion]

duo snipers win

[celest bluff]

Wait hold on

So I should just use t3 gather on wood and stone?

[vernal lion]

ofc lol

[celest bluff]

I should forgot about t1 and 2 gather?

[vernal lion]

especially if the map has mix mats

like stone and iron, or wood and iron

and they are stayed near together

[celest bluff]

Like don't use t1 and t2 gather?

[sonic willow]

One of my platforms going missing

[vernal lion]

what do you mean not using t3 gather?

[sonic willow]

rip goldenglow

[celest bluff]

Mistype

[vernal lion]

yea, as I said, the t3 gather has 4 robots and they can collect any kind of mats fast

[jovial nest]

HAHAHAHA I intercepted a raid in this map while not knowing that I had not farmed it yet. Now its hilarious to see my fortification still there

[signal lichen]

is there a list to see what notes are what so i can unlock more of the skill tree more quickly

[vernal lion]

anything you put will stay in that map for the current game

[glass monolith]

It is even more hilarious to intercept another raid on same map and find fortification

[sonic willow]

wait why intercept can't you just wait for them to come to base while you farm

[celest bluff]

I thought the damn thing don't have bonus damage against wood and stone damn it

[boreal magnet]

Unless u're a masochist

[vernal lion]

they are sharper lol

ofc they can cut through iron

and same as stone or wood

[celest bluff]

Would be nice if I can get broken compass right now
Or 2 clash of clans

[vernal lion]

I believe 1 tile of wood is 6 pieces,
1 tile of stone is 5 pieces,
and 1 tile of iron is 3 pieces

[celest bluff]

Yes

[vernal lion]

you need 7 wood to make t1 gatherer,
5 stone to make t2 gatherer,
and 3 iron to make t3 gatherer

so that will explain you will need to use wood wisely

[celest bluff]

A stone and iron pay for itself in one node

And wood is actually need for everything

[jovial nest]

are conflict zones worth doing?

[sonic willow]

wood runs out so fast yeah

[celest bluff]

In my last run I only got 6
SIX WOODS NODE

WHERE ARE THEY

[vernal lion]

they give gold, if you have nothing to do

[glass monolith]

Gold gained +2

[celest bluff]

Treasure in the trees give a lot more if you spot a thorn chest

[vernal lion]

man we just do hunting now lol

[celest bluff]

No I mean it can literally give you 100 gold

-14 woods
-4 pump bring from last run

[glass monolith]

It is 21 gold gained, you now own 108 gold

[celest bluff]

100 gold with chest

Thorn chest

[glass monolith]

Oh well, thorn chest, good luck finding it seen like 2 in my runs

[jovial nest]

slowly but surely this will close. I finally placed a platform down there as a guide on where it'll go up

[vernal lion]

there is Ifrit lane

pointing upward right to your base

[jovial nest]

Ahem...

it's called a Ya2 S3 lane

[modern oar]

When's the next headhunting banner?

[glass monolith]

Whenever stars align

[jovial nest]

so food buffs last the entire algorithm?

[vernal lion]

yea

[glass monolith]

Incoming i slap next run head first with 10 "2 SP on skill use" foods

[celest bluff]

What the hell

Why 2sp

Like what

[vernal lion]

all s1 user will like it

[glass monolith]

Because when you already have 4/4 medals and 6000 score you don't care

Run is over, now begins multiple cases of Geneva convention misinterpretation

[heady hedge]

OH

do nt

do not

apparently, it does not fucking owrk

i havent tested this personally

but my friend said his friend tried 12 sp food

and it did not fucking work

[glass monolith]

i heard it doesn't work with operators on towers

[heady hedge]

oh

[celest bluff]

You mean the auto skill?

[vernal lion]

if it with charge, yes

like horn s1

W s2 will lose time

[celest bluff]

Me trying to remember who the fuck horn is
The artillery defender?

[timid acorn]

it works, but the Firm Platforms break that mechanic too

[vernal lion]

yes

[celest bluff]

[timid acorn]

your ops have to be placed on normal ranged tiles if you're using that for your ranged ops

[celest bluff]

At least the sp generator work with the firm platform

Also please don't block shit right next to your platform
The enemy will one hit the damn thing and killing the op

[heady hedge]

oh

thats why

💀

fucking firm platforms

i know it breaks counter mechanic but yeah

(didnt really give a shit about counter because reedic s3 counters it)

[celest bluff]

At least everyone on the damn thing is unable to take damage

[vernal lion]

bruh

[fierce hawk]

anybody got a no brain strategy for dh-mo-1?

tank keeps on dying

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6FhzmCRxXM&ab_channel=Arkchive

[sonic willow]

abuse laneholders and yato + texas

[vernal lion]

yes bois

[vernal lion]

it's for the sake of my ending 3 tho

[fierce hawk]

tried this, replaced skalter with some aoe medic

but still didnt win lmao

[jovial nest]

Reached Day 8 on my 2nd algorithm. Let's see how long i can keep this up just out of curiosity

[fierce hawk]

ill try with saria this time

going full sustain comp

[sonic willow]

no I meant the guy asking about dh anni

[heady hedge]

maybe dont copy afk guides if ur struggling 💀

afk guides are more for the ppl who have most ops built

[torpid socket]

Uh oh

[heady hedge]

ok since this is #strategy i will give you a strategy to beat it

the strategy is
kill all the enemies

thank me later

[fierce hawk]

running with horns rn

nvm lmao

[jovial nest]

Ok I think I've stayed in this algorithm for too long

[vernal lion]

[glass monolith]

I didn't even finish building this abomination

[celest bluff]

What the

[fierce hawk]

saria worked lmao

any stages that doesnt need any sanity like dh-mo-1

[boreal magnet]

Bro this stage is so Stoopid

I have skill issue

[celest bluff]

Which Yato skill work best for chopping trees guys

[vernal lion]

s3

[celest bluff]

Oh so the actual reason why my game lag like shit when the map is raining is because of Unity

[vernal lion]

yes

some developer just doesn't know how to compress Unity data so it's just fucking lag

[fierce hawk]

LMAO

I wanted to nuke them all at first but it doesnt work

so just switched to a sustained comp

[deft badger]

the game is made in unity?

[main halo]

From what I heard yeah

This is from the same guy who wanted to charge $1 for every time you reload

[celest bluff]

Reload?

What

[jovial nest]

Finally, it's closed!

I can just let raids happen now

in my base

[deft badger]

are there any UN5 games yet? can't wait to see a good one

[celest bluff]

From what I see, every game with Made with Unity will lag like shit

[vernal lion]

yea

[deft badger]

unity is good actually

[vernal lion]

they are all lagging shit

[celest bluff]

Spend 50 gold or what

[main halo]

I'm talking about this

[celest bluff]

[latent monolith]

My knowledge is that unity is designed more to be cheap/light and for more indie projects (you can publish to webgl for example) while unreal is designed more around properly dealing with heavy assets

[main halo]

Also CEO of Unity is a former EA as well

[celest bluff]

Now EA games can be made with Shits Utility now, which would make it even more shit now, come pre install with both lag and micro transactions

[main halo]

First forcing players to pay 1$ for each reload

And now this

[latent monolith]

UE5 is around a year and a half old so there hasn't been that much time for a full proper game on it yet

[main halo]

[deft badger]

still doesn't make it a shit engine, its easy to use for newbies but like stated in some articles
easy to learn, hard to master

[main halo]

The engine itself is fine

With some flaws maybe

[latent monolith]

The engine itself is perfectly functional yeah

[main halo]

But the way the company works really pisses me off

[latent monolith]

0 op clears?

[vernal lion]

if can, but with like 10000 bombs

I just toy with him a bit

[pearl hatch]

yo, what can you do against these enemies in the new game mode that reflect damage done to them? alone they are not a problem, but a wave of like 60 of them is coming to my base. any tips?

[celest bluff]

Lin