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oh uh how do i do that?
He smokes everyone who dmg him
If everyone who dmg him is in smoke, he targets last deployed op
oh so i kill him away from where everyone else is?
Burst her phase 2
OR GIGA CHAD MALD THOSE SHIT CRYSTALS
that stage is long asf
Burst her what
Killing her within minute before she create crystals 
With his ops, it's impossible tho 
Oh you posted roster.... You fucked 
Yeah I saw the guide. Just looking for some ways to cheese it
Just move on to chapter 9 and skip story recap at starrt
Just make sure to bring 2 fast redeploy ops
To bait ignite
Took me like 6 hours to clear the first fight then behold theres a second and it's worst
Cheese it with your roster is kinda....
Yeah I brought Red and a support Gravel. Still struggled with points tho
he can't burst phase 2 means he need to actually play this game instead killing talulah before crystals appear
Borrow NG
Then let amiya and talulah smack each other up for 1 hour
Amiya can tank talulah with ng
Alright I will try that
so I don't have Suzuran and don't have Angelina either. What other Operators would make sense to run with Qiubai. Saileach ? Proviso ? ๐
Ethan S2 Module 3 
Magallan:trolldespair:
Ethan, Magallan s1, Earthspirit, Robin/Dorothy
or any chain caster
Leizi ? 
Expensive but yeah could work
Can I ask for help with IS in here too?
Ty

idk you still here but uh
kroos is too squishy for downtown if she's used on the frontline
have you already given it a shot?
A lot of shots
the main issues are usually arts drones and defense crushers
could try using chalter there, but idk if she gets all the drones
yeah kroos just doesn't have enough HP to tank both a ballista shot and an arts drone shot
Yo think a 40lvl s3 thorns is enough of a replacement?
E2 40 thorns with S3M3?
Not m3

do you think if you replaced kroos for the drones, you'd be able to kill everything else like the defense crushers?
if you can find like
a platinum or archetto
both do pretty well there to lock down the drones
that's pozy
she might also work, but she has shorter range
I have a lvl 90 pozemka on my friends list
pozy deals lotsa damage but she'll tanking more since she doesn't outrange the drones
she'd be good for the defense crushers though
Alr ill go with thorns
thorns will work
Since chen just aniolates them
just make sure he doesn't die to defense crushers
Any placement tips?
Last time
I used chen on the third row form the top
Looking down towards mid
U think thats a bad idea?
I'd face her right instead
Ooh that could work
her S3 still reaches across both middle lanes, but covers more lanes on the top
Alr ill play a bit of the stage
And ill send the placement here
U tell me if u see anything inprovable
If u can ofc
I haven't played downtown is a while so I'm a bit fuzzy on the exact enemies and pathing 
That's alr you can prob help spot a thing or two
So is this alr so far ill replace the pillow girl with sa
that's a bit too far back
Ye i was thinking that
Its cuz ptilo only reaches chalter there
Ill put my tank in front of black nights deployable
Like this
Amd then i usually put kfc girl next yo black night
Tho i do have an idea for pushing them forward a bit
the first thorns spot I'd recommend is here
facing right
the other one would be on the bottom facing up
both work pretty well
Thank you for the help i think its enough with the adjactments i made
though specifically in this scenario
I'd prefer putting him on the bottom since kroos will die
I don't think my top will live if i do that
But if i fail ill try that
Looks good to me
chalter is unusually durable for a ranged unit
and the pressure on the topmost lane is very low besides the final defense crusher
though fia will drain healing from both gummy and sussurro
so it's not ideal
you could consider putting ange there instead
I can't really test it for you since my units are almost all much higher leveled than yours 
U think i take sa out and put kroos ?
Ye
Because it feels kinda unsafe bot
Like the drones
Ye sometimes sa solos but i don't know if he can kill em alone
Ill go with kroos in the back
Alright it's working way better than b4
I think this is it

Ye it doesn't work ill try urs
worked for me but like
all my units are a lot stronger 
key things to keep an eye on are the defense crushers that wander about after 300 kills
since the main thing that will be killing them is chalter, make sure she isn't caught off cycle
I've never thought of that placement before
that was my first annihilation when i started, there is a better place for thorns btw
This looks extremely promising
Looking upwards?
Cuz i have some time to correct that
I recommended bottom thorns to cover their lacking anti-air damage there
nah in the middle i would have to watch a video to see what spawns if i can remember that was like last Sep
if it helps him fine by me
there's mainly the huge group at 350 kills
Ye
it's a line of defense crushers, red spec op casters, and A2 arts drones
i just remember there is a reason i placed thorns in the middle and i don't know why
I tried mid it didn't really work
Thorns is honestly best placed in the middle because he can spawn kill most enemies and drones
just make sure to kill the bottom defense crusher with silverash since thorns will definitely leak without help
should still work but keep an eye on the A2 arts drones
be sure to deploy mountain after thorns and kroos so that he'll eat the drone fire instead
and on top, be sure to deploy gummy after chalter so that gummy eats the drone fire as well
if your top is dying you might seriously consider replacing fia since fia will drain tons of healing
S3 
Who should I get e2 next
Yeh that's why I said e1 isn't worth it
I recommend dorothy or silverash
fia wouldn't be that bad if you don't like either of them
oh, or proviso
proviso makes your base go 
Do i bot or mid him?
depends on whether you think you can cover drones from bottom or not
Honestly my top to mid is kinda fragile
The part where chen is
Think he can help with that if i place him mid?
Cuz the rest is ok
yes, it'll help
though when I tried it was pretty chill, and I only used chalter skill for A2 drones or defense crushers
silverash or both
Unit limit
can probably remove fia from top if you're putting in thorns middle
In front of chen
wait what
Silvwrasj can attack drones though
Lmfao
Yeh and remove fiametta , put mountain on bot
put silverash behind mountain
If i put him in front of chen
You can put a medic of fiamettas positions
Ohh ye
In*
Remove fiametta put mountain at bot
Silverash handles drones and Chen does Chen things
chalter moment
Put a medic on fiamettas position
Ye ik doing the medic thing rn
Well it should be good top side weakness is covered , mostly just gonna time ur skills
YEHHH
Ye rip kfc girl
I will
Goodluck sir
Thanks for the help you two

Bb really appreciate ya
Congrats bruh
I just replaced krook with fia in the end
Silverash covered Chens weakness no?
That's probably the right way to do it
Ye the last bot was the only problem
The cruiser leader
Had too much dfence
But with fia i killed him pretty easily
And cuora tanking
Idk it was at least 3
Yeh we been at this for atleats that amount of hours ๐
Thanks again bro i couldn't have done it without you or the other dude
Ye i also spent an hour and a half on #help
Red crusher on his way to have exactly doubled stats of normal crusher 
No problems now do the other anhilations 
Yeh you where talking to me there as well
There's like 4 annihilation where fiametta shines
The prison one and the other one that's currently running right now which is Chinese themed
We do it for the only red that gets us arknights gamers high
E2 your fiametta she'll help you in future anhilation
Im definitely gonna e2 her
Eitherway ima go bro thats enough for the day
Hope you have a nice rest of your day bro
Thanks man you too ๐

Oh
Before i go
I forgot to say that i used sas first skill for the last run and that accualy worked better
Just so yk
I thought I was in trouble or something 
empress' favour + goldenglow + SP device = goldenglow IS3 solo
if you don't get a stage with invis enemies
kid named spiked treasure chest
How to beat the knight boss in is3?
Golden glow drone
Pozy typewriter
Something that immune to knight ability
PRAISE UNTO THE LORD KYO
(And UnknownM for posting that strat video)
if you're trying to burst Knight, Schwarz does more than 6x the damage of Pozy's typewriter despite the freeze; if you're trying to permastall, typewriter is one of the best ways to kill the casters in phase 2
kid named skill issue:
I heard Mandra is like, very hard to kill and it almost made H9-6 feel impossible to me
But it says damage reduction for physical and arts, but not true damage
However, phase 2 mandra is considered flying and therefore Mon3tr and Nearl-Alter S3 can't hurt her
Throw rocks on her
And then Mlynar only does a small amount of true damage
Wait
I think the only strong ranged True damage option is Amiya Caster S3 right?
Problem is in H9-6 if you drop the pillar it will open new routes for enemies to just walk to the blue box
That hits air, sure
I see
I even intentionally M3ed her S3
I don't care people say that you shouldn't waste resources on her
I just want this thot to BE GONE
Goodluck with your endeavors
I honestly didn't try to use Amiya since the tile positioning is annoying
I actually know a safe spot to place her tbh
Also, the only further way to make enemies take even more damage from Amiya aside from having operators that buff ATK of other operators, is well, inflicting Fragile effect. Suzuran's probably the best pick for this
Can't u just hyperbuff someone to burst her while she's down from the pillar
Iirc there's a health threshold that she'll get her shield back up if u dmg her that fast 
I only remember it being time than HP
Could be wrong since it's really been a long time since i killed her
I think you need to do as much damage as possible in one hit, so technically Ebenholz could do it
But, if you don't take down the shield with the pillar, Mandragora is able to tank even a fully maxed Ebenholz (?)
Even if he's ATK buffed
Even with Arts damage amplifiers too
Trust me, this isn't going to be the only time Amiya S3 is that useful
You will NOT regret promoting her to Elite 2, let alone actually leveling her beyond E2L1 and even giving Mastery to her S3
Yes, Amiya is the only actually efficient ranged True damage option, so guess have no choice then
is that a way to cope .. nvm
I just brute forced it before
Chalter and shit

Goodluck on damn EB
Can Cliffheart S2 hit flying enemies actually?
i already uploaded eb nm
4 bears
kuma already claimed cm anyway
Pogg
ye
cm already on kuma
5 ops
lyri 

Is this enough for reasearch base hangar?
Kaltsit silverash and penance is s3m3 then texalter and ceobe is s3m1
Looks like u gonna overkill those poor gundams
I think I can also borrow mlynar for good measure
Hoshi as well
At least penance kills faster
Hoshi is only e1 50
Ah mb my eyes decieved me thought she was E2 55
Still stand by my statement u should be fine with that squad
Ok I'll try it then thank you also some placement tips pls
I'd hold bottom with Kal, use penance up front mid make aure she has her skill charged for last wave, hold with mid with the typical dps def heal combo and SA skill for cleaning tougher waves
I want also to kill the resting bots can ceobe kill them?
Maybe something like this
Then use the rest of your op to camp in bluebox and kill all the rest of sleeping bots
This is my last team good luck for me and thank you
Remember to kill all top and mid sleeping bots
So u won't deal with them later
Bottom u can ignore them, assuming none can pass monster
Ok I'll try using ceobe and sexas s2 on the sleeping bots
Key and SA should be enough to kill sleeping robots yeah
Oh right sexas2 but it's a bit slow since she hitting ST
Sexas can't even reach those sleeping bots in top 
She can speed the process on some
Chalter makes this annihilation pretty easy
Well chalter makes alot of things easy
This was a fun map. Dorothy event was one of my favorites. I used Ejya for the top robots. Texas alter and surtr for the bottom. And specter alter where penance is in your picture.
hey guys
i have a question
what are the events right now and are they worth coming back?
Might want to ask here https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/586588958885150721 no one's really talking here at the moment.
hi code
Its mini event rn
and sss chabge, is 3 updates
nothing much
Yato soon tho
u probably would like that
thank you @plucky flint il and @thick badger
awesome, congratz
help me! ๐
wasn't looking which map it is, just saw that i didn't do it on cm...
best place for blocks? don't wanna fail xD
does it look like my brain is that huge xD
ty anyway...
bro when i see blocks i panic ๐
clearly setting a tunnel takes too much brain

true, way to much in my case
Reminds me of some random stage with CM being increased redeployment time which affected roadblocks too 
well for some reason i didn't do cp7-8 on cm... i am at patriot now -.- going to get something to drink then i am gonna wach him punch the hell out of me ๐
Yeah ?
SA talent affects them as well
Is this a good list? I gotta fight EB
Part of me want to say it is over kill.
more than enough yeah
Should be overkill
Part want to say - Do it 
Not should be
It is overkill
beside Mlynar, u can also try out Reed alter.
Yeah but it's the EB. The one boss aside from the R6S boss who actually makes me want to off myself
You will get used to it
First fart - Farts pozy.
Phase change - Claps pozy 
Btw which Texalter skill should I M3?
S3 generally
S2 is good too
Lk
well u have to bait it but that deployable kills him -.-
solo btw!
thorns can solo him, ling can solo him, pozy deployable can solo him
Well I finish it now so thank you for the tip regardless
It's not a hard boss stat wise if you take care about the mechanics
but like it's not always simple
I'm not aware of a thorns solo though
u just need 2 healers, let him walk in p2 thorns facing down from mid claps him while he passes
u can bait but the guy i saw was just afk healing it
So what's the setup like
Oh you mean kill EB while AFKing
Yeah any sufficiently ranged op can do that
that guy was using kal, skalter, thorns, and whats that op healer 6 star
Again the stat requirement is not high
her, anyway kal was holding right side with monster thorns camping mid cuddling with the support and healer
Do you have a video of the strat
let me find it again
What nightingale is for? Res buff?
i don't know, i just remember actually mountain, thorns, goldy, skalter, nightingale
mountain was on top, goldy mid killing ufos, thorns mid facing bot, skalter next to thorns and nightingale
I beat the level!
Heavyrain abuse POG
yea Horn is pog lmao
exu got just replaced for QB/Reed xD


Poor dad
Dead* dad
Wow cool she just did what yato could do 
Sora buff 
Long buff affecting multiple targets, why not 
Does Leonhardt's 6 second RES% reduction stack if you cast it twice?
it should stack
i forgot
it only refresh duration i guess
Only thing which stacks with itself is Puzzle S2 dot at least of which i remember 
btw who made the game?
Some indie music company Hypergryhp?

chinese?
just asking because i noticed it now xD
wasn't a western company for sure lol
they would never put anything slavic in a game -.-
Ursus is literal USSR
i guess i should read the games story/lore a bit ๐
Mtf think the dev only understand Chinese
aight, best saria module, 1 or 2?
Y
i think here will recommend "Technology Rising Star Award" (reduce 15% dmg & +2% atk/def per stack combo) instead of "Unused Boxing Gloves" (healing+ while below 50% & sp regen+ combo)
i still can't do it...

i have 1 vanguard lvld, i think thats problem
how you survived S-3 then or which stage send 100 dogs in 2 minute
1 vanguard only?!
liskarm + myrtle 
is how i survive most of it xD
Bruh....
You have saga and don't even use her
How does she got melt? By dogs?
she is squishy af on e1
pretty sure less squishy than myrtle
myrtle e2?
because shes actually made to fight stuff
My courier is at e1 he seems doing fine
what level is your myrtle
e2lvl60 ๐
me when i compare e1 40 op vs e2 60 op and wondering why the e1 40 op is so shit
wow
How are you supposed to beat Acahuallan Jungle in Challenge mode?
Thereโs way too many enemies to deal with
i wasnt comparing it, stop putting words in my mouth again... like i did say i have saga, was to lazy to e2 her
They should just buff the shit out of the Splash Caster branch and just let you deploy whichever ops you want
someone did say use e1 i did say she taking heavy dmg with e1 ๐
you can just slot a medic on her
Or throw the guy who invented SSS into a dumpster from the fourth floor
Itโs ridiculous
SSS is super easy nowadays
if you think its hard its just skill issue
Show me how to beat Acahuallan Jungle CM
we have mud penance mlynar chongyue for melee comp
melee comp
reed and chongyue claps that map
Yeah, but you need to set up lightning fast
reedic literally soloes the entire thing bruh
And the goddamn concrete blocks prevent you from doing so
Cap
If her S3 was permanently active then yes
I did it
Otherwise itโs cap
Stop mocking me and explain what I am supposed to do
then show your roster
and your lineup
I can't work without tools
imagine
I need to calm down first
Yes
I am about to have a rage-induced aneurysm
I try to reduce my Myrtle addiction after having issue on one stage because opening with myrtle was too slow for rushing dogs and i would have easier time to even open with fang 
Letโs say hypothetically I have these ops, Ceobe, Eyja, GG, Reedic and basically every 3* and 4* op in the game, what next?
For the boss in Jungle CM : Lee in frontlane with some heal on him (eventually Lapp behind to silence spiders), Reedic (Mix of Specialist B/Caster A) hitting the beacon, with some timing explode the map.
you want melee comp in CM jungle if you want an easier time
ranged comp takes too much time to set up
I mean, even w/ five Vanguards I still struggle
And the waves are so damn big. Should I bring Lee to stall then?
But then those big damn rocks mess me up

What stage 
SSS jungle CM
common sense
Assuming their device doesn't immediately explode 
8 gb ram isn't enough now
M8-6 cm funny map
missing this on cm and i am done, but i don't even think i can do it
๐ธ
can texas kill ufos? ๐
S3orS2?
if there are a lot of ads s2 i guess
kinda? with the CM attack debuff takes around 3-4x S3 activations with S3M3 mod3
now after i failed 2 times u come with texas can solo it -.-
I mean tbf it's still not easy
but yeah texas can solo it
Just bring like SA GG and stuff they make it easier
man dont hit him with the arkrec 1op records
I mean they asked
Texas solos normal mode, not the CM
@royal rose for jungle SSS emergency, you don't need Reedic, the key is to use Euncestes' Beacon to spam DP and skills, operators with variable range work especially will with it such as Schwarz and Passenger
and for boss, just keep drawing cards and depollinating behind the boss
demonstration: https://youtu.be/ck5WuFMqPk4?si=9anMRHkfzXRynWtK
Emergency Acahualla Jungle, Sknights secret medal clear
Eunectes's Beacon (bacon) is really good for solving DP problems, and for charging operators who can change their range into a straight line. Emergency Acahualla is a lot harder than Emergency Dossoles, but Sknights are simply too good in SSS.
Rules:
- Starting squad must be all operator...
Bruh
u have Texas
Horn S1 with the beacon clears 4 maps by herself honestly
Challenge Mode: 1 Op(s)
Texas the Omertosa3
Ah didn't see that, mb
The clear on YT only did it on Normal
i dont think my texas can she has s3m1 ๐
tfw i didn't even realize yato hit air 
@grand ginkgo write here...
reed and monster should be able to kill him, but i would hold him in place then before forcing him in his p2
Yeah ill try that ofc
ye ye ill figure out the specifics myself no need to handhold
hold him at black, don't know how u want to force him in to phase thats up to u after u are done dealing with ads but let him fart there
2nd bait red
3rd bait blue
then he will stand at yellow
place kroos there let her shoot him before he gets to monster
please man
i havent even tried it once properly and ppl gave me 50 guides already lol
Im pretty sure one can simply Chen s3 him twice, as long as she has mod1 and m3
His hp giga nerfed
don't know what people gave u i bet he dies first try xD
Someone in here probably tried to 1tap eb with Eben and succeeded
kuv doesn't wanna borrow
Fair
since i did call for a pozy borrow her deployable kills him on the way solo ๐
and he doesn't even fart on it
anyway i am sure reed and kal can solo him
actually can reed give orbs to monster?
s3?
Summons in general can't be targetted by Reed s2
So things like monster and Kaze clone aren't affected
whyyy ๐
thats bait order actually
8 can be right bot corner then everything is covered with fart beside top right corner
All you need to know how the fart works when your hitting with allot of firepower
how it changes targets
outside of that if you have a built roster with it should not be that hard, just stall the boss as long as you can
then deal with the boss last
yeah boss doesn't hit very hard in phase 1, perfect for stalling
lord tachanka burst
Any advice for 4-4? Im struggling a little bit here
Im also not quite sure what to do with the road blocks here 
Try this order
Dont forger to bait crownslayer blink before trying to burst her down
I see i see
Ill give it a shot, than you fren 
That strategy indeed worked, thank you again fren 
This map allow fun push/pull strategies btw. If one day you want to see them.
look up kyostinv rage 
nice, glad it went smoothly
so pro
pull quibai or naw?
Yes do guarantee or 1st pity
Ask yourself 2 questions:
Will I have 100 pulls saved in 3 weeks for Yato alter?
Do I have enough laneholding options for my squads?
from both a meta POV and a collector's POV, ya2 should have priority, now from a waifu over meta POV there are no right answers, just follow your heart
also ask yourself a 3rd question: do I already have actual Schwarz (who is better meta-wise), before pulling for Yanese Schwarz?
is it 60,000 for 100 pulls?
and no schwarz
Guess no quibai for me 
thx
yeah QB could come home in the first 10 pull but she also could very well need 60 pulls or so, and some accounts shouldn't risk it if they care about meta and limited units
also if you have 180 golds, it's more efficient to buy Schwarz from shop than spending a variable number of pulls to get her from banner
Or be like me and get QB on 2nd single pull 
Is schwarz really that good? I have 135 yellows
ur like the third person i know who got qb on second pull
go flex in salt mines ๐ง
jk glad my lack of luck translates into lucky pulls for fellow doctors
And I still have like 90 pulls left over
I needed 44 for QB, she already S3M3 and lv60, my new laneholder, simping her so hard, but now i'm at 50 or so pulls and scared of ya2
she is the queen of Integrated Strategies
(and SSS but no one talks about that)
if there's any way you can get 180 yellows before she rotates out, I would strongly consider it
Just pull 45 4*s from recruit 
who should be the characters i try to get for the last stage of IS3?
hey guys i have a little scenario that iโm trying to figure out
suzu with at least +124 aspd (theoretically a 25 frame atk interval) gets fragile applied to her own attacks
and her slow duration is only 0.8 seconds (24 frames)
anybody know why?
Fia, Pozy, Mlynar, Horn, Texalter just to name a few
assuming ending 1
anyone who outranges Highmorb's ASPD debuff, which is Marksmen range
I do have 93 recruitment permits I could fish for, but i'll proobably need to throw some yato2 pulls to secure it. Would you gamble?
for a built acc would you prefer suzu over Schwarz
I would still prefer Schwarz but that's a tough one, Suzu appears in a lot of strats as well
If they already have strong ranged dps raised then Suzu is a more valuable purchase
I'm leaning toward gamble but you should probably count your pulls and do inventory before you proceed, just in case you're near the threshold for guaranteed
technically you might as well do the 93 recruitments now, the pool isn't getting significantly better iirc
I'll go with this thx ๐ฎ ๐ , chance for waifu quibai as well
thx
Not gonna lie
The energy is feeling pretty mid
You might get her within 40~ pulls
gacha moment
40 pulls, waifu detection on point
What did I say?
I have this feeling where I can gauge roughly how many pulls it'll take
it's never been off
I'm disappointed in myself this time because it felt off but I still pulled for Qiubai
I've never felt so down bad in my life
I honestly don't know why but I believed; I also believed I would of went broke if I didn't not pull her after that 
picked up a passenger along the way too XD
now i'm 28 golds away from schwartz
arknights disc advice its too good
only 28 pog
28 in 5 days? hold my beer
I'm pogging
ty fam
@full finch are you good with this kind of stuff
wow
anyways
s3 
build your shaw first, get at least e1 and his skills to lvl 4. and then u have 2 choke-points on the right and on the left side of the map (after finished putting road-block), try to hold them.
kinda simple stage doable with only 3* and 4*, if u failed, just restart few times.
but since u have Lappland, it's make stage more easier.
4-4 only shaw 3star walkthrough/ guide
no sound no explanation
F2P Friendly Guide
Low level Low Rarity
English explanation video will be upload after global release
Victoriaknights vs DC 8 CM
Decided not to use Reed Alter for this run
Hope victoria gets some good defenders or real medics soon
And real anti air too
Well somebody that can take hits
Horn is a good defender but she really wants to be used like a dps
And Shalem is another dps defender
Horn can take some hits
But she doesn't need to because everything has been evaporated from 10km away
And aside from reed alter, none of the other victoria medics can really keep up with Shalem's healing needs
Horn is not a tank, the defender tag misleads people into thinking so
In a sense victoriaknights feels like Kazimierzknights just that each unit is less individually strong
Victoria has 2 flagships aka Horn and Bagpipe. Kazimierz has also 2, NTR and Uncle.

What?
Shalem doesn't need a crazy amount of healing
And if you need him to tank, he has an S1
She still has 700 DEF 
That's quite a low standard for an endgame tank to be fair
It's better than pretty much all guards and she has a revive
That's what comes with the defender package
Also 3 block
imo having 3 base blocks should be exclusive to defenders
looks at Eunectus
700 def is enough to take a beating from most things
RIP Blaze and Gavialter
well... tanky or not entire purpose of this class is same as artilleryman
only difference fortress cannot attack airborne targets
if you had to use her like you use as protector defender it only proves something already went wrong
That's called an optimised clear
Horn is definitely able to tank some stuff, and sometimes she has to (plus S2 does melee AoE)
you know what, its true AoE so it might come in handy in some situations
Yeah, it really does
but if you take 3rd block on E2d centurions, they just become weaker,
And as a defenderknights player, I can tell you the amount of damage Horn deals is actually gross
Yeah, centurions invalidate defenders a lot because they have 3 blocks and kill stuff
That's why I would argue that 3 blocks should be exclusive to defenders
yeah Horn basically powercreeps the entire Artilleryman class, and you can't even say the anti-air is a big factor because Artillerymen aren't even good at killing air
is there even a 6 star without a broken ability... remembers Skadi
Eh ?
This doesn't have anything to do with the main issue
This issue being "defenders are bloody useless because guards exist, and killing is better"
Well, in a way this is particularly true with 6* because they have so much damage, you only ever need to tank in max risk CC
problem with the guards they get ovewhelmed easily with swarms
But then again, most stalls in high risk do not involve tanking, but push/sleep stalling instead
Swarms of what ?
yeah, high risk enemies hit too hard so Defender DEF isn't enough most of the time
Mountain, Blaze, Mlynar kind of don't care
if there is a Defender tanking it's usually Mudrock because of her ability to ignore damage (CC6)
Mlynar don't care even after that skill ends, because you have to care until that skill comes back
Nian has done a fairly good job at tanking in high risk for a while now, which we often forget about
Mountain only 2 block,
There's gavial alter and stuff
oh true
im impressed nobody mentions Savage, probly nobody owns her
Why would anyone mention Savage lmao
Savage is useful in uh

she is also Centrion
WB-EX-8-CM Sknights 8 ops
Down to my last 3 practice plans of the day, got it down to 9 ops with Saria or Sussurro healing Silverash. But then I suddenly had an idea: what if I used Skadi's Seaborn to buff Suzuran's healing? That might be sufficient. Was scared I would be slightly short on damage, but subsequently a sneaky shot from Schwarz sav...
Ops starting with S 
Average Cirno self-promo
Nah seriously though
Savage's skills are so bad, it's sad
Very nice to see Emperor's Blade return.
imagine giving her extra block as potential reward
Not having anything that can tank or stall EB is rough
why bother when you can just press Mlynar swipe button to kill boss, its probly the reason
and funny that defenders cost more DP
would have been cool to kill the drones with Shalem, but I know that's a bit annoying to setup
Hum...
Pretty sure you can stall it a bit with Shalem + Quercus
Please not this 
Shalem ATK might be too high to stall
Yeah Shalem's kit makes no sense
EB has 400 DEF, shalem had like 600 ATK at E2 20 (?)
Should be fine for a while
that S2 sounds like Amiya S2 without stun and 4% hp loss per second
you need a babysitter
Yes
Saria S3 works great 
But Shalem is pretty bad
His DPS in IS#2 is quite impressive, but that's not a saving grace
imagine losing HP but not selfkiling with it
I've been meaning to raise him for IS2 in fact
but then IS3 came out and I still hadn't done it
oops
Fia hp loss is a % of current hp so it's easier to heal her at low hp
squid, is cement talent good or decent or it was actually bad?
any AoE medic does the job
What's her talent again ?
I thought Fia's HP loss was based on max HP, not current? If it was current, it would decrease exponentially but not reach 1 HP for a very long time, and I've seen Fia at 1 HP quite often
I mean, she can tank golems for a bit, so that's funny I guess
But I'm mad at her for stealing S1 manual activation from Penance
her S1 a hit on true AoE, S2 Phantom S2 but for DEF stat
Nah it's definitely based on current HP
Maybe rounding does so weird stuff
this skill sound funny
hahaha
i understand that, when manual/auto can change the very fundamental use of ops
Now read Mud's shields
Pretty much everything Cement would be good at tanking with that, Mud does it better, and with the added utility and power of her S3
oh go ahead give her 3rd HP bar or smth, or is that Penance exclusive?
The only thing Cement could be good at tanking is a series of strong hits, like the Rhine lab melee suits
But even then it probably wont last long
Shield and barrier is a different thing
Anything that requires her to use S2 seems a bit too much for Cement honestly
Shield = negates one hit
Barrier = second HP bar
She cute tho I'll probanly E2 her
ikr, shield block any amount of dmg but 1 hit break, while barrier breaks at a certain dmg
GP says Fia loses 5% max HP per sec
S1 Cement does seem pretty fun though? Does it hit every enemy in her tile?
my first thought for cement is what should i do(?)
make her a tanker or a dps that can block
Yeah it should
Make her ur aoe dps 
it slows when she is low, i know that
Cement should definitely be used on S1 to maximize your fun
that's REALLY long
:) gotta test it now
maybe there's a current HP component and a max HP component
Actually Cement would be really good at taking out the blobs in chapter 10
Her damage output from S1 is pretty good
@tropic valve I'll try to model this in Python and come back to you, I'm curious as well
yeah just for fun she fit that requirement with s1
with heidi s2
Heidi S1 looks quite good for Cement setups
With 4 block defender
Then Cement at the front
yeah I'm hoping it's like A*maxHP + B*currentHP and nothing more complicated than that
Can catch 6 enemies in the aoe
not really, every 0.1 second she loses that amount of HP, so it takes about 10 sec, and yes she loses 1 HP per sec below 200 HP
If we want to be more extreme we can setup Heidi, Horn, Cement and Shamare
Abuse both of their true aoes
oh didn't realize you said .1
And then we have to add pushers and pullers to the mix to optimise the mob waves that walk into the true aoe death zone
imagine
ok I tested it, you're right it's 0.5% of current rounded up, the fact that it ticks 10 times a second is what allows it to reach 1 fairly quick
good to know
Not even 0
(this game rounds displayed HP)
Horn S2 is a funny skill
Apparently if Lin s2's shield tanks the damage, Cement doesn't lose stacks.
That kinda greatly increases the viability of cement s2.
yeah should be heidi s1
the cycle not to far
and i dont think will stretch the effort that far for cement s1
no i wont put blocker behind her
for the sake to avoid rusty on my own hand skill
oh yeah cement +def buff layer last on-skill only or is it forever?
i see
sometime i feel confused by the skill description
Looks like the phys breakpoint for a maxed cement with Lin s2 is 4571 atk dmg.
Anything less won't eat stacks.
ohh that much
that some def she have
38% phys dmg reduction on top of 4238 def.
...I think she can pick a fight with CC beta avengers?
she can eat steamknight charged atk comfortably
The cycling with Lin is a bit iffy unfortunately.
Cement is 40sp/60s, Lin is 30sp/25s.
Well, you can manually disable Cement's s2, so that'd help quite a bit.
ahh yeah avengers CC beta
she can handle that with that numbers
wait...
its been long time, i can highly wrong
yeah it around 5k
So Cement would need help from mod 3 Shining.
Whelp. Being able to facetank those guys is still pretty damn huge isn't it?
Especially because Cement would just take 0 damage.
most consistent shinning yeah
What about cc12 avengers?
Apparently it's just CC beta again or something.
But wont the def buff fall off after some hits?
Same map, same enemies, probably different risks.
Not if you use Lin s2.
lin shield that make it last apparently
So Lin S2 only counts the damage taken?
Sounds pretty nice

I always thought it reacted based on the damage dealt by the enemy attack, not the damage your operator is gonna take
Ah. Yeah it's based on damage taken.
That's why it's so durable on Lin.
Her breakpoint with module is iirc 1.2k or something like that.
Sounds pretty cool
what breakpoint?
Yeah, breakpoint for Lin mod 3 is 1256 phys dmg
The point at which her shield breaks.
Res slips through much more easily though.
Anyone have stainless S3? Want to borrow
335*3
its around 1005?
*3.15.
Module increases the buff from 200% def 20 res to 215% def 25 Res.
Just a heads up the cc12 avenger wins in a 1v1 against deathless black snake
Without any risks
Me
What's the name?
yea avenger v2 can solo most of other bosses
oh yeah mod
Not sure whats the name but common consensus is that hes the avenger that is related to goldenglow
reid
The stats don't look that high. 23k hp, 800 atk.
Is it a 1000% atk buff at half hp or something?
He does get a huge buff after he revives
until you see him solo the top 1 boss
https://youtu.be/I81rG4xpw58
red man
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The Last Avenger has normal boss stats. The risks is what makes him incredibly strong
The fact that he basically do no mechanic will put him even more meh lol
Reasonable human being use Mostima S3 to stall Revenger 20 second immortality
I inhaled bag of copium and S2M3 my Spectre
Does he whack harder than 6243 dmg per hit?
The real copium is flametail s3 RNG.
Sounds like me using surtr to block bottom lane fireballs in H8-4
Btw, stupid question time, why cc12 use Cliffheart and how fucked I am if I have Rope instead?
Imagine its for the true damage
There's a CC duration reduction risk?
Oh, then my strategy for week 1 must work and I am too lazy to mald week 2 anyway
he bought merc
Most cursed CC risk ever was immunity to slow
It's 1 instance of 2135 true damage every ~16s.
Add this to POO robot killing
POO?
imagine the 3.75 million HP bot died to Zaaro

unbelievable
Haze, Eyja S2, friend support Ifrit S3, Ceobe module 2/3, Shamare S1 
Cliff true damage helped me in manfred cc, I used her to murder overbuffed big tentacle slugs that spawned early
Respects to cliff true damage
how much def does that thing have
over 8000
just ceobe it
4800 def 90 res is max as i heard 
But max max is when not even cheaters managed to kill dorothy who just zoom into blue box while she takes HP because risk, while you have 1 seal because another risk
and 6.750.000 HP
Wait a min in the zaaro vs armor vid the curse was only applied when Zaaro died
But it couldnt be removed?
less than 20% HP, yes
if he has less than 20% HP and cursed someone, that one won't escape from the death
Oh I see
the Schwarz brainrot ๐
hi squid


"Only 4800" sounds like disappointed in nerf of Ceobe damage 
how do i beat DC-8 CM with this team and what would be the best support to use?
Support Horn





