strategy

[deft badger]

ofc non of my friends has a good kal...

[scarlet fulcrum]

No need to be solo, u have 12 slots for this

More like 13

[flat sapphire]

Fr

U can duo this reliably with surtr + mud/thorns/mountain pretty sure

Surtr needs like 4 mines to one cycle p1

[cursive mango]

monster got giga rekt

[scarlet fulcrum]

Their penance also p6

[flat sapphire]

[scarlet fulcrum]

lucksaccer tbh

[gentle finch]

I tried when I was originally clearing

its aids to do

[lapis hornet]

my penance also p6

[deft badger]

reed deleted him! xD

[lapis hornet]

just be skilled at gacha

[deft badger]

broo the hell is that

[scarlet fulcrum]

Another luccsacc

[flat sapphire]

I remembered something @deft badger

[deft badger]

?

[flat sapphire]

Yato vs patriot

with buff army ofc

[cursive mango]

welp

[flat sapphire]

Yato mlynar tier

[cursive mango]

patriot decided he wanted to kill everyone

and his cronies killed the backside

[flat sapphire]

U can just kill patriot with surtr + mines and focus ur other units at the bottom left

[deft badger]

surtr mine 1 hit 😄

[cursive mango]

we were all huddled in the bot left corner too

[flat sapphire]

She needs at least 4 mines to kill p1 iirc

[gentle finch]

NIAN ACTUALLY GOATED

stalled rat king long enough for pozy to chip

I didn't think this stage was so clearable without sexas until now

[cursive mango]

I go sleepy

tomorrow is a new day where we get 10 yellow certs for our path to eya

and also finally finish 7-18

[gentle finch]

...

I only won seacavern by sacrificing HP

now I got it again

[pallid veldt]

seacavern is more a mlynar check than sexas

sexas doesnt really do much on that stage

[gentle finch]

helps break his shield at least

I think I lost

I only have 5 HP

[pallid veldt]

is this ed2 or ed3

or just normal d15 highmore

[gentle finch]

just highmore

[pallid veldt]

ah

what team

[gentle finch]

one sec

I have to take the photo irl

[pallid veldt]

if ur at 5 hp seals by end of f4 it might be rough yeah

certain stages are almost guaranteed leaks on d15

on f5

[pallid veldt]

uhhhh

[gentle finch]

if Nian was E2 I would have some confidence

but

she's not

[flat sapphire]

dem cracks tho

[pallid veldt]

you need to get like

spread and pipers

or something

[gentle finch]

don't even have sexas

no specialist recruit in sight

sob

[pallid veldt]

does levitate ground highmore

[gentle finch]

idek

[pallid veldt]

regardless like

uhh

[strange fable]

Nah

[flat sapphire]

immune to levitate

[gentle finch]

the only difference between this team and the team earlier is Irene is E2 and there's warfarin

[tropic valve]

that squad looks cracked

[gentle finch]

maybe I can cut the leaks down to 4

I leaked 5 last time

[tropic valve]

oh wait it's just the screen

[pallid veldt]

good one cirno

(he will die on mech menace)

[gentle finch]

why'd you have to do me that

[flat sapphire]

[gentle finch]

😭

[strange fable]

just recruit krooster for air stun and u will win trust

[pallid veldt]

im doing investment runs rn

and unironically running aak start

[gentle finch]

sorry the only sniper ticket I got was for pozy

[tropic valve]

levitate does not ground highmorb I believe

[pallid veldt]

yo aak dps kinda high...

[gentle finch]

assuming I don't die this run

[flat sapphire]

highmorb immune to levitate

[gentle finch]

I hope I get sexas

aaah this would be so fine if Nian was E2

[pallid veldt]

would it really tho

[gentle finch]

I'm unironically running Nian start

[pallid veldt]

why not pallas start

[gentle finch]

I wouldn't like 5 that's for sure

[tropic valve]

Nian opener too based

[gentle finch]

💀

I'll tey

[flat sapphire]

believe in irene s3 anti air

[gentle finch]

try

[pallid veldt]

no start is impossible on d15

[gentle finch]

I was ready to head to war, but "Connection to neural network lost. Please log in again."

[pallid veldt]

is there any reason ur running nian start

cause its definitely worse than pallas start

[gentle finch]

she's hot

[scarlet fulcrum]

Often happens to me, internet issue

[flat sapphire]

it's a free nian

[scarlet fulcrum]

My ultimate killer

[pallid veldt]

aaks health drain should stop at 1 hp

this is so stupid

[gentle finch]

sob

ok I'll be back

[flat sapphire]

surtr pls

fixed by mod surely

[tidal sedge]

Silence alter : I can fix that

[tropic valve]

no start is impossible, but some starts need to dodge symbiosis

[gentle finch]

oh

I don't have dice

fuck

[strange fable]

Just draft stainless to keep Aak alive

[pallid veldt]

i mean

[gentle finch]

surely shouldn't make much of a difference

[drifting agate]

How good is eyja's module?

[pallid veldt]

as long as you survive normal symb

just draft gav right after

shrimple

[gentle finch]

good

stage 2 is enuf

[pallid veldt]

some starts probably cant survive normal symb though

[gentle finch]

or even stage 1

[tropic valve]

some starts also need to dodge normal symb (Carnelian be like)

[gentle finch]

Nian start can survive normal symb

I tested emergency but

she got destroyed

[pallid veldt]

who is carnelian?

never heard of her

[drifting agate]

Res penetration sounds really nice, alright

[pallid veldt]

sorry

i dont use bad operators

[tropic valve]

dying to emergency symb isn't that bad because you won't get it most of the time

[gentle finch]

true

[tropic valve]

but normal symb

[gentle finch]

yeah she gucci

[pallid veldt]

just use weedy

shrimple

weedy start unironically based

[gentle finch]

I tried weedy opener earlier today

[tropic valve]

true

[gentle finch]

I think I'm too stupid

[scarlet fulcrum]

weedy easier yea

[pallid veldt]

u just have to learn the stages

[gentle finch]

I'll try more in future days

[strange fable]

Gnosis start leaks to normal symbiosis, its so sad actually

[tropic valve]

I'm not based enough like @latent halo to open

[gentle finch]

what skill do you use for symbiosis if weedy start

[pallid veldt]

true

april based

[pallid veldt]

s1

[gentle finch]

hm

[strange fable]

its s1

[flat sapphire]

there's hole

[gentle finch]

ik

[latent halo]

[gentle finch]

I guess my positioning was ass

[pallid veldt]

april how do you do precarious with weedy

[strange fable]

Weedy no leaks at e1 too which is pog

[gentle finch]

okim still procrastinating this seacavern

bye

[latent halo]

S2

[pallid veldt]

can that permastall

[latent halo]

Yes

If u have mostima

[pallid veldt]

smoothmiya

u also need sp relic for that dont you

or some way to kill first runner

[latent halo]

Tried s1 face left to make them into toilet

But it doesn't work like what I expected

[pallid veldt]

[gentle finch]

@pallid veldt I won

leaked 4

warfarin makes such a difference

[deft badger]

do res debuffs stuck?

[surreal star]

yes

[gentle finch]

death and rebirth call but I'm already 1 HP

:tf:

[pallid veldt]

Yo guys is this ifrit lane??

[gentle finch]

I think this the first time I made floor 5 with Nian opening

[gentle finch]

🤯

[flat sapphire]

2 tile omg

[pallid veldt]

Won seacavern or like

Win highmore

[gentle finch]

yeah

[flat sapphire]

u coulda made it 3 tile if u move spot one tile right 🤯

[gentle finch]

I'll die to highmore though

[surreal star]

try moving spot up one

[gentle finch]

no flooring

[pallid veldt]

1 tile ifrit true…

[gentle finch]

that's assuming I won't leak 1 HP randomly and just die

I'm optimistic

I died

[thick badger]

love the I'm optimistic . . . I died 3 minutes transition

[deft badger]

did try parmanix, eyja, warf, with texas on patriot xD

u can guess who i did buff

texas did hit 3,9k per hit 😄

[radiant plinth]

doable

[tropic valve]

lfgggg

[cursive mango]

What the dog doin

[timid schooner]

kentucky fiametta chicken

wish i had blue poison

ok time for the prison map

[thick badger]

[cursive mango]

[zealous geyser]

is there anyone i can use in event ex 8 cm apart from ling

i losing

ling strat nto working

[cyan gorge]

Mlynar

Pozy if you have some other strong ranged dps to pair with her

[summer bobcat]

pozy and exu + warfarin combo to spawn delete ya

that's what worked for me at least

[tropic valve]

Suzuran + Rosa

[gentle finch]

hm

I should try the cm without abusing my squad

[thick badger]

rarity abuse op

[gentle finch]

im gonna cope dusk into this

[brazen hare]

How that fuu do I beat talulah

[gentle finch]

borrow nightingale

she makes the fireballs a spring breeze

[solid dew]

is this JT8-3 or JT8-2? cause if its 3, then yea nightengale

[tidal sedge]

stall her then beat her up

[gentle finch]

rosa S2?

or S3

[tropic valve]

S2

[gentle finch]

man

the guy on my fl got S3 up

maybe I can work something

actually I could just ask

@pallid bone is your Rosa S2 mastery 3

[scarlet fulcrum]

Try with random ppl first

[gentle finch]

M3 or go home

[grim gull]

Thanks to everyone who helped me in my stupidity!! (2nd E1 of one of my characters it may not mean much to everyone here but it meant alot to me + took my 1 hour thx to yalls advice)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Theirs actually m3

[scarlet fulcrum]

All she need is skill lv, even e0 overkill for general content

[full cedar]

This game has a cliff to climb for the initial learning curve of what to use and who to focus on, don't feel too bad. Good luck with your account!

[grim gull]

❤️❤️❤️

[brazen hare]

Yea figured that part but alll my homies die when she go phase 2 even with my medics lol

[heady hedge]

Bruh

[brazen hare]

I think I Gona level up my susurro and use both susurro and nitigale

[heady hedge]

I nearly got jumpscared into a first e2 myrtle

[scarlet fulcrum]

They might do it, big chance

[scarlet fulcrum]

Easier way u can make ur medic to only focus on 1 operator during fireball

[brazen hare]

The part that make me cry is after the fireballs actually

[scarlet fulcrum]

After fireball ends she will enter p2 right away and cast burn

[gentle finch]

ehh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just prepare ur bait right after that

[brazen hare]

Whait she use burn right after the fireballs?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Right after p2

There is delay but well better prepare

[brazen hare]

I see thanks ima try it again later

[scarlet fulcrum]

May i see ur ops?

[gentle finch]

man I can't find a Rosa S2 support.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ask leite @scarlet ledge

[latent halo]

I thought ppl have her m6 mod3

Guess not all

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah indeed

[gentle finch]

actually

I'm altering the strat

still gonna try with S3 for now

stall P1 with dusk and have Rosa chip dmg kill

prayge second phase dies

[scarlet fulcrum]

ppl get scared of raising her because certain operator lmao

Either HW enjoyer or that

Other than that most likely based ak players

[gentle finch]

unironically using pramanix 💀

[scarlet fulcrum]

Based

[gentle finch]

she would be built if I owned her

[scarlet fulcrum]

[gentle finch]

brah I leaked on left

forgot Spalter skill

[brazen hare]

Me?

[scarlet fulcrum]

yea if u mind

[scarlet ledge]

what

oh rosa?

i have her m9

[scarlet fulcrum]

[scarlet ledge]

u want s1?

[gentle finch]

S2

[scarlet fulcrum]

Water do want her

S2

[gentle finch]

S3 is tickling phase 2

[scarlet ledge]

lemme open alt acc

my main acc is 50/50

[scarlet fulcrum]

I have her but defective af

lv60

[zealous geyser]

the problem is the -1 blcok count wtf how do you deal with it

[gentle finch]

alr

[zealous geyser]

problem is these enemies leaking through

i cant even do shit with defenders because theyre like 20+ dp

[summer bobcat]

ahh i see

[zealous geyser]

im too poor to upgrade new

how does one clear this cm

[summer bobcat]

do you have any other ops that are 2+ block? like have you built centurions?

[zealous geyser]

no

i also have 15k lmd

left

[gentle finch]

water#3117

[cyan gorge]

Mlynar has 0 block normally
3 block with skill on

[zealous geyser]

barely any exp left

[zealous geyser]

the cm condition gonna grief

and

his skill not always on

help me

[weak peak]

are there any laneholders that can hold the left lane in wb ex 8 cm without healers?

[summer bobcat]

^yea

[balmy halo]

mudrock

[cyan gorge]

Lappland + Liskarm (low level e1 works) can hold top with some aoe arts

[zealous geyser]

mudrock prob

[zealous geyser]

lsikarm e1 is ok?

[weak peak]

she died :< s2m1

[zealous geyser]

kinda expensive tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

Blitz mud specter

[cyan gorge]

I did e1 40 and worked fine

[gentle finch]

Spalter

modx S2

[zealous geyser]

e2 lappland right

[brazen hare]

Ignore the sky fire please

[scarlet fulcrum]

Any thicc hp with sustain also works

[zealous geyser]

idk the enemies swarm so muhc and go so fast

i barely able to beat nm

[gentle finch]

well you have to time spalters skill a little bit

that's too hard innit

[cyan gorge]

e1 max can work, but not having masteries does make it more difficult

[zealous geyser]

i s2m2

so

[balmy halo]

did u have towers and shit (the cipher poles)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Jaye+someone also works

[summer bobcat]

do you have any ops that can do some crowd control on the enemy swarm? chain casters and decel binders are pretty good to control incoming swarm

[scarlet ledge]

@gentle finch wait got a little bit errand kek

[zealous geyser]

ngl i had most success with chalter but when her skill isnt on

im fucked

[weak peak]

uh idk what you mean

the tower the enemy drops?

[zealous geyser]

borrowed chalter

[brazen hare]

BTW is amiya guard a good investment to beat talulah? For the damage I mean

[balmy halo]

shes more of a facetanker for talulah due to her arts dodge

but sure if ur willing to wait a bit of time

[brazen hare]

Her 1s skill is better right?

[gentle finch]

nw

[scarlet fulcrum]

I will borrow thorns with that team, with the rest of ops act as helidrop beside medic and guardmiya. use 2 bait too

[cyan gorge]

I did something like this but if you can't burst the boss this hard, you could use an aoe caster or Texalt if you have her to help clear hoards

I grabbed the wrong ss

[zealous geyser]

who can i use to replace mudrock, fartooth(?), and schwartz

[brazen hare]

Thorns instead of nitigale? The white girl healer

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

[scarlet ledge]

@gentle finch accept

[brazen hare]

OK ima try

[gentle finch]

alr

[scarlet fulcrum]

U know his position right?@brazen hare

[gentle finch]

this better work

[cyan gorge]

Mud is difficult to replace, the alternative is Spalter or dedicate a strong defender while having deployment room for Texalt
Schwarz and Fartooth are even harder to replacem, but Exu and Fia are pretty close

[zealous geyser]

i dont have fia

[cyan gorge]

then either any strong aa option you own or a debuffer

[zealous geyser]

suzu works right

s3

[cyan gorge]

yes

[summer bobcat]

yea suzu works pretty well

[timid schooner]

wah

[zealous geyser]

do you think i can use kaltsit replace mudrock?

[summer bobcat]

if you happen to have ely he will also work really well to increase your sniper aspd and debuff the enemies

[timid schooner]

why the caster shooting so fast

[cyan gorge]

Kal for sure could

[timid schooner]

crap this is not daijoubu

[zealous geyser]

maybe not enough deployment tho idk

[cyan gorge]

yeah that's the issue

it was tight enough with Mud

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also switch liskarm to gravel s2, myrtle to s1, nearl to s1. Siege to s2, max yato to unlock talent

[somber falcon]

Blemi and hoshi on top, maybe with lapp
Spec on left, use texalt to bait first hit
Borrow someone for ya p1, suzu + mlynar both lane on p2

[gentle finch]

does specter even need a medic there

[latent monolith]

No

I think I had siege S1 solo that lane

Specter defo doesn't need medic

[scarlet fulcrum]

They prob meant ex-8, not that anni in pic above

[latent monolith]

Or was it S2

[scarlet fulcrum]

But yea spec enough

[gentle finch]

no

I meant that anni pic

I literally had bagpipe on S3 hold that lane with auto attacks

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh then most dps works since mage doesnt attack before unchained

[gentle finch]

ye

does mudrock S3 movement speed reduction affect low alt hovering/flying stuff

[scarlet fulcrum]

iirc yea

[gentle finch]

ok

I hope this works

the spalter timings are tighter than I expected

[scarlet fulcrum]

is glad there?

iirc mod x gaining sp after skill right?

[gentle finch]

no

[gentle finch]

I banned Abyssal comboes

I can only bring one

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is it mod y or x?

[gentle finch]

x

[scarlet fulcrum]

Pog

iirc beeswax also can solo left

Oh wait mostima there so doenst count 💀

[gentle finch]

holy shit

Ya is on like 2 HP

the mudrock bs worked kinda

[scarlet fulcrum]

[gentle finch]

I hope she doesn't annihilate my main squad

It would all be solved pretty easily if I just added a medic

but I don't want to

💀

ok what

eh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is specter doll affect air i forgor

[gentle finch]

idk

[scarlet fulcrum]

u can swap mud role if it do

[gentle finch]

was thinking that tbh

[near hornet]

Anyone help me with wb ex 8 cm

[gentle finch]

actually my spalter isnt right next to blue box

I can move her back

[thick badger]

Her doll does

[gentle finch]

timings will become more lenient

[scarlet fulcrum]

Show us ur ops, and which part did u fail?

[gentle finch]

I wonder if modY is better

I don't need her doll

which gets skill cycled faster

[near hornet]

Here

Is there a issue?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not really, most like few useless ops there

U can ditch paprika for someone else

[cosmic thicket]

Do you have anyone to kill the boss faster than old age

[scarlet fulcrum]

Silence to s2, lin to s1. Dusk can be gone

[timid schooner]

crap i just killed the boss lol

idk why the casters keep firing

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u have jaye or someone with good dps might as well bring him

[timid schooner]

am i do smt wrong

[near hornet]

I don’t have any good medics so that’s a huge issue

[scarlet fulcrum]

Killing jess p1 will freed all prisoner

Not even ansel?

[near hornet]

No

[tranquil socket]

tried wb-9 the first time and I'm getting swamped and the boss keeps replicating
will this team work?

[gentle finch]

LOL

ITS POR GATED

pot

[cosmic thicket]

Easily, although you may prefer warfarin s2 to buff exu

[gentle finch]

in my favour

my spalter lived with 11 HP

[cosmic thicket]

what

[gentle finch]

im doing a weird ex -8 cm clear

well, relatively weird

its not that bad

[cosmic thicket]

Does it use pallas

[gentle finch]

you got me there bud

[near hornet]

No

[gentle finch]

it doesn't

im tryna cope dusk instead

I guess pramanix is somewhat practical

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ok then u can keep her, just borrow someone like mlynar. Who is ur other ops u have?

[gentle finch]

I'm out of practice plans

wait I have sanity

[near hornet]

Chongus, pass, phantom
Srry I forgot

[scarlet fulcrum]

is u passenger raised

[near hornet]

70 s2 7
E2

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not s3?

[near hornet]

Broke

[scarlet fulcrum]

His s3 will be same lv

[near hornet]

I know

[gentle finch]

ok

looks like I need Nian S3

last run for the night

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ok then just stall boss at p1, make it dying with mlynar. Redeploy him on bott, activate his skill with dusk s2 helping him there. Ops on top will help dps clone too

Lin to s1, silence to s2, horn to s1

Penance can be s2 too

[supple ice]

How do I beat Patriot?

[near hornet]

Can u give me a demonstration

[scarlet fulcrum]

Paprika can be switched with yato or jaye to help left. Idek ur other options tbh. Penance s1 can do left ig since ur right side covered

[lavish snow]

Buff and debuff or true dmg.

[gentle finch]

mmm

[supple ice]

Idk where can I get those

[gentle finch]

maybe Spalter instead of mudrock is the way to go fr

but she might die mid doll

won't know without trying

[scarlet fulcrum]

my ops way higher than urs, are u fine with that? maybe will use click or smt

[lavish snow]

Show your ops?

[supple ice]

Here's what I got. It's my first party and this is my first Patriot fight.

[near hornet]

Do u know the free op in break the ice ?

[gentle finch]

kjera

[scarlet fulcrum]

Kjera

[near hornet]

I have her e1

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh mine m3 ed

[cosmic thicket]

Oooh 7-18
Figuring out mine placements was really fun for me

[scarlet fulcrum]

But i think dusk s2 mlynar bott, lin s1 top enough for p2

[near hornet]

Bott

?

[cosmic thicket]

bottom

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bottom

[near hornet]

Oh

[gentle finch]

furthest ive gotten so far

tbh the ending seems rough

it might not even work unless Spalter can replace mudrock

[supple ice]

I tried to spam the mine but Patriot can one shot any blockers I have

[gentle finch]

you time the mines so that patriot walks on them

[cosmic thicket]

Then don't block him

[gentle finch]

use ranged

[cosmic thicket]

He stands around a lot

[lavish snow]

I just borrow surtr to surtr the boss
Me lazy to figure out mine placement 😦

[timid acorn]

fellow Dusk enjoyer

[supple ice]

How do I use her

[gentle finch]

indeed

[cosmic thicket]

https://tenor.com/bQXlB.gif

[gentle finch]

she allows Rosa to chip P1 without wasting skill

but Rosa can't one cycle p2 even with pram

[signal lichen]

waiting for the new sticker where shes placed down becuase of moomoo

[gentle finch]

so I've got to figure out how to finish them off

actually Rosa can

its just ya leaves her range

[near hornet]

Can u give me a map where to deploy my op

[cosmic thicket]

Wait, can't the tactician bubble only be deployed on ground tiles

[scarlet fulcrum]

Map ark, pinned here

[signal lichen]

its been done with thorns

i would need to find the video

[near hornet]

Just Surtr It

[cosmic thicket]

What the

Least buggy piece of code

[timid acorn]

where do you defeat the first phase

[gentle finch]

below pramanix a tile to the right

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/act23side_ex08#f#

[lavish snow]

You just place her near the boss and activate the skill. Reed alter skill 2 make surtr even stronger. Borrow skill 3 surtr

[gentle finch]

i even used mudrock slow to let Rosa get more hits in

but I'll replace mudrock with spalter

because on the left, coming down to the end Spalter doesn't cycle skill fast enough

and dusk freeling gets its ass oneshot

once I solve the left lane and can safely redeploy Rosa without leaking up top on the right I can win

wait when does event end

[timid acorn]

Do you need Pram on the top row or can't you just deploy her on the middle so she debuffs both

[supple ice]

Which skill am I looking for with Sutrt? Does she need healers?

[gentle finch]

she dies

[lavish snow]

Nope she can face tank patriot for a few seconds. Surtr skill 3, twilight for the name

[gentle finch]

actually the last time I tried that

it was before I got the mudrock idea

if ya only targets one

and has enough range to hit mud instead

[somber robin]

I FUCKING DID IT

[gentle finch]

perhaps I can place pram in middle

[timid acorn]

also I had no issues with spalter soloing left but mine is s2 lvl7 so she cycles faster

[gentle finch]

sob

[scarlet fulcrum]

Can u just activate earlier

[gentle finch]

bro

i activate at the earliest possible

[timid acorn]

Ya only targets one but she does use an AoE attack around herself

[gentle finch]

as soon as the red line shows he's gonna walk out

[scarlet fulcrum]

How about OG specter?

[gentle finch]

the only other option is to learn the timing from even before that

[near hornet]

Too laggy

[gentle finch]

and hope it dies

[gentle finch]

never tried

what's her skill SP

[sullen rover]

40

[full cedar]

I used OG Specter to solo left lane

[lavish snow]

You can although skill need to be early. I use her in ex 8 cm

[near hornet]

Gimme ur squad

[gentle finch]

no medic or abyssal buff?

[full cedar]

https://youtu.be/Fll7uVFfVaE

[somber robin]

i've been malding for 4 days

[sullen rover]

i also used og specter she works fine

[somber robin]

these are the only ranged units i have raised btw

[full cedar]

Mine does have S2M2 in this clear, but no other abyssal buffs needed. I’m using Skalter but the seaborn isn’t used on the first kill and isn’t needed on the second or third

[lavish snow]

I beat it with mlynar and chalter. 102k hp and flying is nightmare for a boss

[full cedar]

The flying second phase made it tough to figure out

[gentle finch]

hm

I'll try it tommorow

[cosmic thicket]

I used pozy for first phase, exu warf + eyja for 2nd

[gentle finch]

thanks for the suggestion man

[full cedar]

Yee!

[gentle finch]

I wonder if Angelina aspd gives just enough for Rosa to finish off

if we also add in her dmg

no use speculating, I'll just try tomorrow

[full cedar]

Her slow also helps keep her from activating more tiles and keeps her in range of other units

[gentle finch]

I already brute forced the stage

[full cedar]

Oh whoops

Replied to wrong person lol

[gentle finch]

I'm just bored

😭

[full cedar]

Lmao

[cosmic thicket]

I don't think angelina s3 can do that, s2 def can tho

[gentle finch]

I mean like her talent

[cosmic thicket]

Oh

[gentle finch]

the only damage source is Rosa and she's already so low

[cosmic thicket]

Wait what are you trying to do

[gentle finch]

if Angelina does DPS and pram is debuffing

let me cope

[gentle finch]

idek

i just slapped a bunch of units in a squad and said I will clear with these

[full cedar]

See, Angelina slowed them down to keep them in Chalter’s firing range

her damage was worthless against them lmao

[gentle finch]

this basically

[cosmic thicket]

She's better to kill mobs at top lol

[gentle finch]

i saw everyone maldin and felt dirty clearing it in 20 mins

[cosmic thicket]

S3 hits all 3 lanes with proper positioning

[gentle finch]

so im torturing myself

I'll try Angelina tmr

i don't wanna increase the op count so I'll remove mudrock

she's not that important anyways

[full cedar]

She did help take out some dogs and slow the speed of the tanky dudes so my top line didn’t get overrun

[cosmic thicket]

Doesn't mudrock solo left assuming no other guys spawn there

[gentle finch]

yeah

I could just remove spalter and add Angelina

that works

[full cedar]

10 units? Rough. I needed all 13 units I brought

[gentle finch]

many options to take

[full cedar]

Good luck!

[gentle finch]

its 11

[gentle finch]

❤️

[cosmic thicket]

Should I also try to low op it

[gentle finch]

why not

[cosmic thicket]

Or lower op

[gentle finch]

what even is low op on this map

7 ops

for cm

[scarlet fulcrum]

3 iirc i forgor

[full cedar]

I will not lmao, I’m just glad I beat it with my own strategy, that’s good enough for me

[gentle finch]

skull

bet its ling mlynar skalter

[scarlet fulcrum]

Im lazy to check arkrec tbh

[full cedar]

Definitely Blue Woman Uncle

[scarlet fulcrum]

[timid acorn]

Do you think there's any chance I can lower this? (no guards, snipers, summoners or texas)

[gentle finch]

eh

who knows

[scarlet fulcrum]

That look neat enough

[scarlet ledge]

hi

[gentle finch]

the only thing I hate is the tile summoning being rng

[gentle finch]

yea

[near hornet]

Sed that I don’t have those op

[timid acorn]

It's already really tight because the boss died on Saria's tile

[scarlet fulcrum]

U have option to borrow mlynar, have u ever try yt or smt?

[near hornet]

Y E S

I DI D

but won’t work

[gentle finch]

welp I'm gonna sleep

[near hornet]

My pinecone and meteor didn’t e1 so a sed

[gentle finch]

goodnight everyone, and thanks for the ideas

[cosmic thicket]

currently trying with this

[scarlet fulcrum]

All u need add dps to help him

Pinecone only for mobs, u have passenger and lin there

[scarlet ledge]

stage?

[scarlet fulcrum]

even horn s1 will help a lot

Ex-8 cm

[scarlet ledge]

what ange doing?

[scarlet fulcrum]

For slow maybe

Gavialt can chill on top for sure

Pozy the most flexible one there

[scarlet ledge]

poze cycling can kill boss easily

[scarlet fulcrum]

They prob will kill clone first

[scarlet ledge]

ngl ex 8 cm is ok for me

i just warf buff fart

💀

[cosmic thicket]

Budget medic + handles first big guy at top with gavialter help

[scarlet ledge]

[cosmic thicket]

I'm just messing with the stage tbh

That comp can kill boss easily

[brazen hare]

YAY I BEAT TALUAH

Thanks for the help

[teal hollow]

How beat wb-ex-8 CM?

[sharp wadi]

Exu shred top dps for bot
And kill huge waves at last

[timid schooner]

h8-4 is waiting

[sharp wadi]

Now lin module cheese

[brazen hare]

Ima ignore that for like 4 moths

[supple ice]

I tried Surtr and even after two deployments he was still on his first phase.

[foggy grove]

...use mine

[supple ice]

I can add you? That'd be awesome

[plucky flint]

Damn, the rizz

[foggy grove]

no as in interference mine

[supple ice]

Ah. I tried using them and got a few hits. Still doesn't work well enough.

I tired to use Mylnar and got through the first phase. But he kept moving so I can't pin him down, and no blockers can stop him. Thankfully he isn't required to clear the stage

[foggy grove]

mlynar require less mine yeah

just take note where patriot stop

[latent monolith]

You can just redeploy mlynar for P2

Patriot phase transition is already like a minute long

And he's really slow at walking and stops at many places

[supple ice]

I can't get to P2 without Mylnar. And while he's slow to reach places, whatever I threw at him to damage him doesn't take him down. Even a few mines he just shrugged them off.

[latent monolith]

Mines increase the damage the enemy takes by 50% for like 20 seconds

[latent monolith]

I'm not asking you to not use mlynar, just that after he kills P1 you can retreat mlynar and deploy him somewhere else near some other place that patriot stops at in P2

Patriot walks around for a really long time, and you can easily kill P1 with mlynar on the bottom right iirc

[supple ice]

Ahh I see. Then I guess I need to work on my placement. Because after P1 Patriot starts to damage surrounding ops. Which makes it troublesome with all the airborne enemies dropping in and they all are surprisingly tough.

[latent monolith]

Also phase 2 patriot is far squishier

And hits less hard

In exchange for the spear throw and having the small range

I kinda screwed up phase 2 (not least because I didn't use mines) but this gives a general idea

I placed a mine on the bottom right as soon as patriot started to move from his first stop point above the altar

Ideally would be slightly earlier

[supple ice]

Ok thank you. I will try that one out

[latent monolith]

Remember to use mines on P2 and not be like me

And also just mine his P1 as he walks on the top for more damage

[supple ice]

Alrighty

[scarlet fulcrum]

bruh 99% ops voice belong to chong after u actvate his s3

[latent monolith]

koko- STRIKE

[scarlet fulcrum]

[latent monolith]

I'd have raised him already but

[foggy grove]

smh

[scarlet fulcrum]

rip my gacha game

[foggy grove]

i 90 him

[latent monolith]

Look it's not my fault that I randomly got reed alter and then got CY the day after I E2d lin

[scarlet fulcrum]

pog

[opal kiln]

smh not saving for yato

(I have a grand total of 3 pulls for yato)

[latent monolith]

I have like 10

[opal kiln]

[latent monolith]

Surely guarantee yato

it'll be delayed 6 months trust

[opal kiln]

simply get her in free pulls

[latent monolith]

true

I got lin in free pulls, and another lin in free pulls, and another lin in a free pull after some normal pulls in between

3rd lin was like 44th pull

[scarlet fulcrum]

Suffering from success

[latent monolith]

That means I'll get yato surely

[opal kiln]

my chong banner luck is the polar opposite of my cn summer banner luck

on en I did 59 pulls for 1 lin, 1 chongyue, 1 gnosis pot
on cn it took me 214 pulls to get 2 eyja, 1 swire, 1 eun

oh yea I also got another eyja at like 223

but still

[latent monolith]

In texas banner it took me around 115 for 1 texas 1 nearl alter

And I got penance around 125

[scarlet fulcrum]

My cny always had decent luck. This time 3 chongs and 2 lins with 60 pulls total. Got nian dupe from daily too

[opal kiln]

let's not talk about sexas banner

let's just say

p1 -> p5 penance in 20 pulls

[latent monolith]

wasn't that the one you went all the way

or was it someone else

[opal kiln]

not 300 but yea I did like 240

also the legendary 20 pulls 5 6*s moment

4 penance 1 fart

[weak gazelle]

my luck tho... very nice
got stainless this limited banner
110 pulls for smug cat banner and she didnt come home

[scarlet fulcrum]

My clebration banner always mid

[scarlet ledge]

ngl my stain is still e0

lazy to raise him

[opal kiln]

I'm probably raising stainless after lin

[scarlet fulcrum]

idc about stainless tbh

[scarlet ledge]

stain can enable my other ops

with turret

[opal kiln]

lin -> stainless -> ??

[scarlet ledge]

lumen

[weak gazelle]

stainless in my RI ship
that a disgusting thing to have
tho not as shit as minimalist

[scarlet ledge]

ur using sail or no?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yato next

[weak gazelle]

minimalist ruined my RI ship reputation

[opal kiln]

I wanted to do max cc12 but idk if I still do

need to raise sail if so

[scarlet ledge]

ok kinda based
dagda raised

[opal kiln]

m3 too

(she's useless)

[scarlet fulcrum]

S1?

[latent monolith]

I used czerny more before raising him than I did after

[opal kiln]

s2

[scarlet ledge]

lin > stain > sail > lumen

i guess

[scarlet fulcrum]

nvm then

[scarlet ledge]

s2

duh

[weak gazelle]

anyway what is ange second mod again? if there is any

[opal kiln]

more regen

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah nvm

[scarlet ledge]

i used dadga on h11-4 only and is3

[weak gazelle]

huh?
thats was shockingly bad first impression

[scarlet ledge]

[weak gazelle]

[opal kiln]

actually idk which one is which but one is more regen the other is more aspd for allies in range

[weak gazelle]

remind me of +5hps myrtle

[scarlet ledge]

both ange mod is jsut uhh

[opal kiln]

regen one is Y which is longer slow, aspd is X which is SP

yea her mods are pretty bad

[scarlet ledge]

same for fartooth mod...

both is uhh

idk what hg is smoking

[weak gazelle]

they hate fartooth indeed

[scarlet ledge]

fartooth usage ded since poze and schwarz mod

exist

[opal kiln]

fart still the only one with 2 mods that upgrade the same talent right

[scarlet ledge]

ya since her second talent is just dodge ignore using skill

they didnt even add new talent

wtf

[opal kiln]

I mean they could make it give atk_scale when attacking enemies with dodge

[scarlet ledge]

only mod i used on fartooth is first one

since second its jusf aspd

dont matter

[weak gazelle]

dmg modifier tied in her skill tho so yeah her mod just utter garbage

[scarlet fulcrum]

Surely better vers fartooth someday, isnt typhon s3 count?

Less spammable tho lmao

[scarlet ledge]

irene mod...

[weak gazelle]

idk if irene since didnt have her
what her mod anyway?

thypoon is.... how do i say it
maybe sidegrade to rosa was the best explanation

[scarlet fulcrum]

Purely for stats, talent upgrade barely matter

[scarlet ledge]

typhon specialized on st

s3 do bone breaking if enemy is solo

s2 is nice for general content

much easy to use than rosa s2

[weak gazelle]

s2 typhoon s2 specialy made for ako help resident

or nicer word for anyone who hate clicking skill button

[scarlet ledge]

ngl im too broke on cn rn

[scarlet fulcrum]

for degen afk most likely, still pressing skill

[scarlet ledge]

cant e2 my 6★

[scarlet fulcrum]

I forgor to farm red certs on my main 💀, can relate

[scarlet ledge]

i farm cert on en

when cc is running

[weak gazelle]

the thing i like most from typhon is her talent apply all enemy
while rosa tied to weight, seem small but at least for me its really heavy restriction

[scarlet ledge]

well rosa can break enemy anyway its just her racism on fatass enemy is much fatal

since module amplified it more

[scarlet fulcrum]

less weight with high defense most likely doesn't exist right? on general content i meant dont tell me IS4

[tropic valve]

it's fine for bosses since pretty much all bosses are heavy, but if you just want her to hold lane it can be an issue since hounds and stuff tend to be light

[scarlet ledge]

hello cirno

[tropic valve]

hello

[scarlet ledge]

i tried dusk start on d7

[weak gazelle]

well sooner or later we would dive into IS#4

[scarlet ledge]

survive for now

[tropic valve]

I saw your symbiosis screenshot

although it looked like may was helping out for that

[scarlet ledge]

at start its just defender helping her and sniper

but ye i need to grab someone else

or ill die

[weak gazelle]

def shred or def ignore work better against damage reduction?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Shred uxe

[tropic valve]

shred helps everyone, ignore only helps the user

[scarlet fulcrum]

No uxe emote here im poor

[scarlet ledge]

atleast s2 typhon have sp startup

unlike thorns

💀

much faster to activate

[weak gazelle]

i see
just my utter nonsense about thorns
since his first release i never see him as a good 6* lord
or to be exact where he is good at

[scarlet ledge]

thorns have hard time keeping up

with enemy stat

[scarlet fulcrum]

For general content lazy set up maybe

[weak gazelle]

he suffer from statstick like blaze when it come to cc

[scarlet fulcrum]

High risk one yea

[weak gazelle]

and blaze more make sense to me back then cause its literal afk if that the context

[full finch]

thorns biggest advantage is range

[scarlet ledge]

@scarlet fulcrum my m9

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ive never fond of balze tbh yeah cause of that

[scarlet ledge]

[full finch]

thorns S3 range hits the corners 3 tiles out, which basically no other ground units did until fortress defenders existed

[scarlet fulcrum]

Archetto pogger, cant decide mod?

[scarlet ledge]

i use first one (fartooth)

its better

second mod its just aspd

but first mod already get the aspd

so its just fucking same

[tidal sedge]

Archetto is godsend for meteorite

[weak gazelle]

range huh
fair enough

[scarlet ledge]

about archetto mod
first one is better unless u want to snipe aerial enemy @scarlet fulcrum

use second instead

[full finch]

the damage was also good enough to kill most elites at range rather than engaging them in melee

[weak gazelle]

but get cucked anyway if enemy untargetable unless its get blocked

[scarlet fulcrum]

But like if i want full afk nowadays usualy horn weedy or smt i prefer

[scarlet fulcrum]

[full finch]

in a full lane with trash + elites thorns is going to struggle and only serves as support DPS

[scarlet ledge]

plus remind this

thorns cant keep up with enemy stat this day

unlike before

[full finch]

it's more that he's being pushed into support DPS since he can't solo as many lanes

[tropic valve]

I really like Archetto modY (helidrop)

[weak gazelle]

tbh my point of thorns will change if thorns s3 hit 2 enemies but that didnt happen

[scarlet ledge]

first one is better

sicne ye

you can drop her then activate s3

plus aspd

for faster charge

[tropic valve]

that is modY (in case anyone wasn't clear)

[scarlet ledge]

the shield sp one?

[tropic valve]

yeah

[full finch]

I just wish thorns S2 wasn't so tragic

[scarlet ledge]

only time i used archetto second mod

is on dolly

[full finch]

because unlike S3 it would be a very good skill on a full lane

[weak gazelle]

hahahaha
thorns s2

[full finch]

similar to how penance is today

[tropic valve]

if it gave him +1 block and more sustain it could be interesting

[full finch]

he doesn't need more sustain

[scarlet ledge]

add more atk+

[full finch]

3.5% HP/s is enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

Stop attacking sustain for him yea

[full finch]

the skill is understatted and shafted by mechanics

[scarlet ledge]

thorns s2
i only saw it on some cc clear

[full finch]

still waiting for module so he can solo SV-9

[scarlet fulcrum]

ephtra lv trust me

[scarlet ledge]

executor mod is very good

[full finch]

like for example
it would need no less than like +120% ATK/DEF

[weak gazelle]

well, cope is the best thing we can do now

[scarlet ledge]

balanced to good shit

[weak gazelle]

[solar spindle]

waiting for SA module

[solar spindle]

so he can outdps mlynar

[full finch]

the 0.6s interval should cue up to 1 attack

and remove ranged penalty

and also the +1 block is super critical

well who knows

maybe thorns mod will give +1 block and +20% ATK when equipped with S2

[scarlet ledge]

@full finch if making mod
what new talent will be added on sa module?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Self atk most likely

[full finch]

make talent 1 apply to all karlan trade units

[scarlet fulcrum]

ok trash

[scarlet ledge]

kek

[full finch]

like

[scarlet ledge]

hg love faction mod buff

[full finch]

when silverash is in the squad
all karlan trade gain +15% ATK

yes it's stupid

but it's realistic

[vernal lion]

actually you can use Thorns s2 to stall flagbearer

[scarlet ledge]

look at kazmier mod

[tropic valve]

big brain

[scarlet ledge]

faction buff

[full finch]

other than that

could also be a little more redep cdr

[scarlet ledge]

redeploy cdr increase

would help

[tropic valve]

I would definitely like that

[full finch]

boring, but useful

[scarlet fulcrum]

Most likely 3% at most

[solar spindle]

sa best pair with texas alter and yato alter lmao

[full finch]

alternatively
they could do something nuts like making silverash S3 deal more damage when it kills enemies

[scarlet fulcrum]

True dmg fr

[livid bobcat]

i don't know where to ask this but has dm-mo-1 been done with a low op ling before

[tropic valve]

idk how they're gonna improve lappland's talent, the silence duration is already long enough

[full finch]

mlynar loses damage when killing
silverash gains damage when killing
mlynar fell off fr

[vernal lion]

can you, ugh, decrease the atk of Mlynar to 0

[latent monolith]

Yeah pretty sure 2op with ling is possible

[scarlet ledge]

@livid bobcat

[tropic valve]

mlynar can't even deal 4 digit damage to walmart frostnova, absolutely fell off

[full finch]

bonus damage to silenced targets or somethin

or give her a new talent

[livid bobcat]

awesome, is there a link to the vid

[vernal lion]

I need to test Mlynar in Minecraft mode

[scarlet ledge]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14q4y1F7Gd

[full finch]

RA WHEN

WHERE IS IT

[latent monolith]

https://en.arkrec.com use this site

[full finch]

[livid bobcat]

thank you

[last blade]

What op should i upgraded for stage 6-5 and for the comin stages. This is all i have

[tropic valve]

(copied from help) Specter and Tequila

[full finch]

6-5 is just a defender check

[scarlet fulcrum]

Guardknights fr

[full finch]

to make sure you aren't just raising DPS

[scarlet fulcrum]

bingus e0 akafuyu, cant be real

[last blade]

Well yeah, i did not try it yet. I mean the usable ops for every stages

[last blade]

Already hellagur

[scarlet ledge]

@tropic valve oh ye izumik at d0 is already a fucking pain

[tropic valve]

nice

I'll be going in blind, am hyped

[full finch]

la pluma good

[scarlet fulcrum]

Are u playing guard only?

Oh nvm lmao

[scarlet ledge]

6-5 road block

[latent monolith]

I think I managed to do 6-5 with mlynar lee horn lee medic so (not my original clear but still)

Lee was tanking

[full finch]

dodge RNG

cringe

[latent monolith]

He doesn't really need dodge rng to survive the bonethrowers

Has like 700 def

It helps ofc, but is not needed