strategy

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dont compare it to jungle sss

[ancient hearth]

if that stupid dragon pot is hitting stuff, it should be hitting penance or nearl

[scarlet fulcrum]

[ancient hearth]

but I think most of them will get spawn camped by ifrit S2

[balmy bridge]

@novel dirge ehe

[cursive mango]

this look good?

[balmy bridge]

good enough,just go until you somehow fked the run

[scarlet fulcrum]

U dont need bp on early, just produce dp more

[balmy bridge]

bro wants to be safe

[ancient hearth]

just have a plan for the last 2 red sharpedges

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also that ethan positioning 💀

[flat sapphire]

Maybe move him back 1 tile

[ancient hearth]

eh, should be good enough with bp

[flat sapphire]

[cursive mango]

move back one tile yep yep

[ancient hearth]

you only need 1 flagbearer for this map, if you lose to one of the last 2 sharp edges remove texas and put surtr back in to duel it

penance should be able to duel it, the potential weak link would be the sharpedge going up to nearl

[flat sapphire]

Doesn't the sharpedges stop in ifrit range?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Only for a while yea

[ancient hearth]

last 2 don't iirc, they go in the intial formation and then just start moving isntead of idling

[flat sapphire]

[ancient hearth]

so the back 2 don't stop in ifrit's range

[cursive mango]

omg i forgot to use reedalts skill

its oki tho

no leak

[scarlet fulcrum]

As long as before 385 its fixable

[cursive mango]

setup leaks some floaty units

287

[scarlet fulcrum]

use sexas for help

[flat sapphire]

That's what ethan n bp are for

[cursive mango]

no more units can join tho

[flat sapphire]

It's ok

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ditch sus

[ancient hearth]

you probably don't need suss before 250

also, y gummy on skill 2

[cursive mango]

i have no idea

xd

[flat sapphire]

Doesn't rly matter all that much here anyway

[ancient hearth]

don't think anything threatening comes down that lane that isn't going to die to ifrit

[flat sapphire]

Ye

[scarlet fulcrum]

only spear guy at end, tho sexas easily

[ancient hearth]

nearl is probably going to die at the very end

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also they stopped for a while

Nah they are fine, they have sexas

[cursive mango]

oof ifrit died

[flat sapphire]

[cursive mango]

gotta restart

[scarlet fulcrum]

By kettle dragon most likely

[ancient hearth]

you see what happens when you keep gummy on S2?

[cursive mango]

ye

[scarlet fulcrum]

Drop sexas on it duh

[cursive mango]

yep yep

i made boobo

[thick badger]

u r restarting the game right? not exiting mission, to save sanity

[flat sapphire]

No wae i thought ifrit kills dragons pretty easy

[ancient hearth]

also, gummy deploy after ifrit if possible

[cursive mango]

retstarting yep

[ancient hearth]

also, is ifrit on S2?

[thick badger]

ifrit requires S3 for this map i think

[cursive mango]

S2 ifrit yep

[thick badger]

to kill the big spear things

[ancient hearth]

S2M1 ifirt should be able to solo the dragon pots

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is dragon moved after pot at very end, ifrit cant manage both

[thick badger]

baiting dragon shots is important

[ancient hearth]

gummy needs to be deployed after ifrit in this case, and be on S1

[balmy bridge]

gravel getting bdsm treatment again

[cursive mango]

who was I swapping out again?

just skill right

[ancient hearth]

gummy on S1

not S2

S2 is the meme skill

nobody but suprah uses it

with the atk buff from horn she should be able to handle herself against the dragon with suss helping if ifrit isn't killing it in time

[keen mortar]

Dr. Little lucy

[cursive mango]

so far so good

256

noleaky

[thick badger]

that sounds kinda hawt

[cursive mango]

finally a leak at 300

[thick badger]

u can have 8 more no biggie

[cursive mango]

gummy died

348

could replace in time

big leak 367 and gummy died again

[thick badger]

hmmm, were u using ifrit S2 or S3?

[cursive mango]

s2

[thick badger]

I think u really need S3, that's just my opinion tho, just gotta time it right, its downtime is quite short and forgiving, S2 is just comfy cause no activation needed, but u want more burst after 350

[cursive mango]

ill give it a try

[thick badger]

are u using perfumer S1 or S2?

[cursive mango]

switching to kal to have bonus unit to use if gummy die

[thick badger]

perfumer is required if u doing ifrit S3 tho

need passive healing cause ifrit hurts herself per activation

[cursive mango]

[thick badger]

perfumer S2 should help keep gummy alive since it increases the passive healing

[cursive mango]

when do I use the skill?

when i see big fatty dragon?

[still ingot]

are there supposed to be that many or am I just highrolling?

this feels like oops! all defenders!

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its boss ability, sparkling tile will summon trash

[thick badger]

if u let Ya hover for too long that will happen, need to burst her asap

the glittery tiles will keep spawning mobs for a while

[still ingot]

I know that they spawn

and I know thats its either dog or defender

[cursive mango]

first big fatty drgon burnt to a crisp

[thick badger]

ah who knows which hidden numbers calculate which, but yeah u prob got the short RNG straw and it spawned only defenders lol

[thick badger]

nice, deep breaths

[still ingot]

it just happened 2 times in a row and I dont know if its rng or the strat is trash

I feel like there were way fewer defenders when I tried kyostin's strat

[cursive mango]

gummy die 284

no issue, reinstalled

gummy die 298

[thick badger]

I would place chalter here so that she handles all mid boss, mid mobs AND top mobs

[scarlet fulcrum]

Rest in peace gummy

[cursive mango]

almost asap too

bam bam

[thick badger]

Maybe gummy does need her S2 here

[still ingot]

there arent that many mobs on top

[cursive mango]

no leak 315!

[thick badger]

nice, progress

[thick badger]

I mean they are all bound to walk top sooner or later

[cursive mango]

I SEE DRAGON

IT GONNA BURN

first leak 342

gummy died to dragon that came after the other one

[thick badger]

damn, stupid dragons won't give up, I think u have to place myrtle in front of gummy for the second dragon then

take some fire off gummy

[cursive mango]

welp we got to 350, but leaked 8 times

[thick badger]

welp, looking grim

[cursive mango]

yep I seem to leak just too much

[thick badger]

u are lacking damage over time it's the issue

[cursive mango]

what about penance skill 2

thats aoe right

[pallid veldt]

so the issue is ur able to kill the actual enemies

but ethan cant DoT the atk-hit spawns?

[thick badger]

🤔 I thought u were using S2 actually

Penance S2 is arts dmg per second all around her it makes perfect sense

[cursive mango]

me noob

got to check these things ;-;

[wary wing]

do you have aosta?

[still ingot]

basically, I failed trying to follow a guide () and in the guide kyo uses ling to hold and meteor+dps to kill boss and I just cant do it for some reason

[thick badger]

when the step by step fails it's usually because lack of trust bonus or lack of same mastery levels

[still ingot]

so I tried the reverse - using my random-ass team to hold and chalter to kill the boss but I guess my defenders arent as good as one dragon

[still ingot]

yeah its freaking trust or pots or smth

[thick badger]

dragons are as beefy as mudmud so yeah makes sense they can't keep up

[cyan gorge]

Dragons do arts against all blocked, normal defenders don't have the same wave clearing potential

[still ingot]

oh, I didnt even know that

[thick badger]

what I did was place chalter in the tile I showed ya and place my weak defenders next to the blue boxes top, so chalter was able to handle anything that reached top with her S3, and the rest of the team spots I was able to fill with pure DPS to melt the boss, aka pozy, eyja etc

[still ingot]

chalter facing up?

[thick badger]

no, facing left

[still ingot]

oh, ok

I will try that tomorrow, thank you for the clarification

maybe my horn can help from the left side idk

[thick badger]

Yeah her S3 does this shape

[still ingot]

ye, I know

[thick badger]

Very useful for everything that walks mid and top

[thick badger]

Left side people were saying mudmud afks it

[still ingot]

I just dont have a crazy anti-air dps

I dont have mudrock, I have like six 6*

[cyan gorge]

May + Ifirt isn't bad

[thick badger]

Ooof yeah the "low altitud hovering" messing u up, lords can hit air too u know

[cyan gorge]

Pinecone too

[still ingot]

ifrit doesnt shoot second phase I've been told

[thick badger]

u have to use her S2

[cyan gorge]

Ifrit s2 hits air

[thick badger]

Ifrit S3 doesn't hit air but her S2 does

[cyan gorge]

s2 is the one that lowers def

[still ingot]

o m f g

where do they write this info even

if at all

-200 def is a lot if I squeeze her into kyo's guide should be doable

[quaint acorn]

i just use shirayuki, but may's skill is helpful in anti air

[still ingot]

I am completely dry after horn+meteor

[quaint acorn]

my meteor isnt built at all, she's not worth it lol

[still ingot]

I am guide-addicted scum

[thick badger]

Horn is worth 3 6* by herself, she does everything good

[still ingot]

maybe horn can also damage air somehow?

[thick badger]

Meteor is more of a sus investment but not the worst

[thick badger]

She can't her archetype is about sieging melee enemies from afar

[quaint acorn]

horn is aoe, since i dont have her i use firewhistle

[still ingot]

rip

[thick badger]

Yeah the usual broken units are not usable againt Ya cause of thr flying, u can still mlynar it tho

And chalter it

[still ingot]

theres a gudie that uses mlynar and chalter

but I can only borrow one

[thick badger]

Use ur Ifrit S2 and try the kyo

[still ingot]

yeah, I will, thanks

after next reset (theres still 2 days iirc) cause too tired at this point

[cursive mango]

ive come to the conclusion that this wont work

;-;

there is one more thing I could try

[thick badger]

This map has 3 key points:

1. U set up aoe burst for top right spawns to show their true selves.
2. u set up ur best laneholder for bottom right
3. u finish the ceramics left with aoe damage over time

U could swap some pieces cause it looks like u close u just missing a bit of #3

[cursive mango]

so i swap naerl

[thick badger]

Good swap she might not be doing much for u

[wary wing]

do you have aosta

[cursive mango]

nopes ;-;

[thick badger]

No one has aosta

[wary wing]

bp and ethan arent enough for all ceramics

needs a little more

[thick badger]

This is true

[wary wing]

aosta and ethan are actually more than enough

but smh

whats actually killing you

if you can minimize ops on the right side

you can allow more for the ceramics

[thick badger]

There are plenty of cheap options that arent aosta or BP, iirc I used E0 pudding to aid ethan

[wary wing]

lucy has bp already

[celest solstice]

trying to do wb-ex-6 with underleveled ops, doable?

[wary wing]

and aosta e1 has aoe dot

[thick badger]

Fwhistle also has aoe dot

[wary wing]

she has on skill aoe dot

while aosta has perma

[cursive mango]

im trying shirayuki instead of BP

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh wait i changed fang there lmao 💀

[wary wing]

whats your team again

[wary wing]

... wdym underleveled

[celest solstice]

idk recommended is e2 20

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can leak the rest

Bruh double post

I changed myrtle there

Overkill

[cursive mango]

who is the one at the top middle?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Absinthe

Just example

[celest solstice]

so you think its doable?

[wary wing]

ez

[scarlet fulcrum]

No need to follow completely, u have better ops

[celest solstice]

how

[scarlet fulcrum]

👍GL

[wary wing]

deploy your strong ops

focus arts on the upper side

win

[celest solstice]

what

[wary wing]

top side enemies are weak against arts

[thick badger]

Shirayuki aspd is too slow u will get overrun

[celest solstice]

so I just spam arts casters theres, ok then what

I hate those casters in middle

[wary wing]

katl and mon3tr kill and tnk them or smt

[celest solstice]

katl?

[thick badger]

Kalsit*

[still ingot]

kalt they meant prob

[celest solstice]

ah

[cosmic thicket]

worst comes to worst borrow a texalter

[celest solstice]

should I hold choke point with penance or something

[cursive mango]

yep just happened

[cosmic thicket]

cm makes the guys really tanky so hold with kaltsit

the tanks also kill penance really quickly

[thick badger]

I feel the pain I also tested shirayuki

[celest solstice]

ah ok

Ill do mountain

[cosmic thicket]

i think he'll get 2 shot by the tanks

[light flame]

use mountain in right side

[thick badger]

Do u have podenco E1?

Podenco S2 downtime is short enough to spam it on ceramics

[cosmic thicket]

angelina s2 is also a good option if you have her e1

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u want use that setup as reference that medic must be therapist or else thorns will die, in that pic purestream e1 lv1 skill lv1

[celest solstice]

yeah did it, thanks

[scarlet fulcrum]

Shes base slave anyway

[wary wing]

ppl always sleeping on sash s2

[scarlet fulcrum]

Based

[cosmic thicket]

what mastery

[wary wing]

slvl7

[cosmic thicket]

oh what

he can actually hold? that's crazy

[wary wing]

he has 2 medics on him

[cursive mango]

trying a tweaked version

[wary wing]

and reedc has an atk debuff

what can he not hold

[cosmic thicket]

oh

i wasnt paying attention and didn't see reedic

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah just tweak it, i used half of ur ops anyway

[cursive mango]

thanki

[wary wing]

your e0 ethan scarres me kirn

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah, this is just lazy acc 🪦

sash s2 secretly pog

[thick badger]

Ethan E1 is preferable fosho

[scarlet fulcrum]

Their ethan e1 no worries

[cursive mango]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

my phone died

ffs

[scarlet fulcrum]

🗿

[cursive mango]

it was going so well too

i guess thats a sign for me to go to sleep

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just get some sleep mate

[cursive mango]

but ill try in bed

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea no rush

[cursive mango]

thanki for the help

[celest solstice]

whats the strat for this

hold everything near spawn?

I mean base

[cosmic thicket]

main thing is to burst down boss phase 2 very quickly

[celest solstice]

eyja s3 + SA s3 doable?

[thick badger]

it involves a lot of malding, mlynar, pozy and or chalter, main burst mid, strong laneholding top and one strong op to withstand the occasional spawn left

[cosmic thicket]

for phase 2 burst? maybe?

[thick badger]

I did use exactly Eyja and SA, borrowed a chalter tho

[cosmic thicket]

or exu buff army

[thick badger]

true, too bad I don't have warf nor exu nor nothing

[cosmic thicket]

i used exu warf + eyja to support phase 2 kill on CM, pozy killed phase 1

[celest solstice]

hmm, penance top mid, SA bottom mid, and mountain fighting left

[cosmic thicket]

bottom mid has significantly more enemies than top mid

[celest solstice]

oh really

[thick badger]

yeah I actually held bottom with Thorns now that I think about it, SA, Eyja, Pozy and Chalter mid

[neon charm]

There is only one invisible dude at the time in left lane and they hurt super hard

[cosmic thicket]

surely mountain can handle it

[celest solstice]

e1 80 tho

[neon charm]

He can't in CM

[thick badger]

only the first hit hits hard

[neon charm]

Already tried

E260 S2M3

[cosmic thicket]

damn

[thick badger]

u can bait the 1st hit with gravel or something

[cosmic thicket]

just get dodge rng

[thick badger]

lol

[cosmic thicket]

not in CM lmao

[thick badger]

oh right -1block, fuuuuuu

[celest solstice]

Ill try 1 run

[cosmic thicket]

use YATO

[neon charm]

Just loose sanity because bad luck

[thick badger]

I think I used penance for left

[neon charm]

If you have mudrock she solo left lane

[celest solstice]

level 1 gravel lets gooo

[cosmic thicket]

unironically yato 2block comes very handy here and the enemies do come slowly enough to cycle her i think

[celest solstice]

nope no mudrock

I have kaltsit tho

[neon charm]

It should work ig

2 deployement slot tho

[cosmic thicket]

reed alter might suck here

also use eyja s3

[celest solstice]

let me switch teams in a moment, thats story mode team I dont wanna touch it kekw

[celest solstice]

why

[thick badger]

reedic targetting gets all silly cause of how the tiles are programmed

[cosmic thicket]

phase 2 she goes flying and reed alter fireballs don't hit air

unless ur using her for mobs

[celest solstice]

its s3 reedic

[neon charm]

Can just S3 tho

[thick badger]

s3 should do good work mid lane

[celest solstice]

wait wtf how do I deal with this

[pallid veldt]

just let it run

[celest solstice]

then where do I place my hill units

[neon charm]

Eyja and SA

[pallid veldt]

SA will kill it

slowly

but he will do it

[celest solstice]

sa where

?

[neon charm]

Middle lane facing down

[pallid veldt]

are you planning on killing boss while real form is top lane

i dont feel like SA + eyja s3 is enough

but i could be wrong

[neon charm]

Maybe in normal mode

CM is another story tho

[cursive mango]

!!!!!

First try with fire whistle

Ptilo to lower time between boom booms

[cursive mango]

Thanki

First time seeing how strong Texas2 really is tbh

[celest solstice]

yeah I killed the first half, but I didnt know the second half is spawning on the bottom now my entire strat is ruined

how do I kill the second half after stacking 99.99% of my units on the top

[cursive mango]

By making enemy go so fast they can’t move

[celest solstice]

huh

[cursive mango]

You know the pylons

If there are 4, a fast medic can stall boss for a good 60 seconds

Providing you can get the skil going, then backup with another medic

I ignored bot on my clear

[quaint acorn]

immediate e2

[fallen chasm]

if you still cant do it i used mlynar+pozy

and a warf

buff

i think pozy can solo if you add a suzu

[cursive mango]

That’s how I did it at the end

Ignoring bot lane

[radiant plinth]

i tried

[fallen chasm]

pozy will change ur life

[radiant plinth]

._.

[cursive mango]

Is that chenalt a borrow

Cos if it isn’t you could have easy time doing a borrow ling strat

[celest solstice]

I dont have pozy

[cursive mango]

Your best bet is a Mylar borrow

Use SA to stall boss if that’s not a borrow

[keen mortar]

the strategy for dealing with team A6

[celest solstice]

Im already borrowing lin to destroy top so I wish I can

[radiant plinth]

chalt + cone + rr dealt 77% dmg to the clone in 35s
minimalist skill + gg no skill dealt 26% dmg to main body in 30s

painge

i need more power

aa

[tidal sedge]

Need optimise chalt. Ex or norm

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh u did it, nice

[daring prawn]

pozy + NTR?

[radiant plinth]

they do not do much for my cause

[sharp wadi]

You can use exu shred on p2

Just need some second dmg source on bot

Boss is easy, infinite mobs is BS

[clever kernel]

lmao

[tidal sedge]

Same coin kill boss no mobs because boss can't be block need burst quickly

[clever kernel]

u guys do know that cobra is doing E0 right?

[tidal sedge]

Wat core op for chalter strat?

[clever kernel]

considering the boss is freeze immune, best bet is just slap suzuran

but even without her im pretty sure chalter can solo phase 2

[sharp wadi]

And after that you'll get swarmed by enemies

[clever kernel]

eh

the enemies is not that hard if you have like one, afk unit

and a good medic

[sharp wadi]

It leaks

[clever kernel]

not enough dmg

bring AOE

[scarlet fulcrum]

Flying boss surely nightmare for e0

[sharp wadi]

Since cm -1 block

[clever kernel]

kill em faster

bring aoe or slow

[clever kernel]

real, cant stall

not enough dps

and they cant do the waves after

[sharp wadi]

Until that, have fun if you got some mlynar and stuff

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah obv the main problem

[tidal sedge]

Share your squad let me try run

[scarlet fulcrum]

[clever kernel]

the general playstyle for niches that have eh dps is stall cuz chip dmg is very real

when you cant? rip

[steep tartan]

huh...do the little things that spawn not count towards the total number? i let like 6 of them through

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dang true

[clever kernel]

if the boss has lower attack interval stalling by tanking might work

but sadly still not enough, and Ya punished u for having low dps

[tidal sedge]

Either stall or burst real quick third one is rotate skill/op

[next cradle]

They don’t, as long as you kill the enemies and don’t let 10 or more of those things past you’re good.

[clever kernel]

me when Ya mechanics is the slower you kill, the more dps u need

[scarlet fulcrum]

Either u focused too much on her clone then die from swarm

[clever kernel]

her?

its a she?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Well i will say him

[clever kernel]

tbh im not entirely sure either

but it dont matter

[gentle finch]

skull

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its just his ability that killing most ppl imo

[clever kernel]

funnily enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mob swarm

[gentle finch]

ability?

oh

yeah

[clever kernel]

godsenger is amazing

fucking aoe and slow

uoogh

[gentle finch]

that just made it easier for me

[radiant plinth]

KEKW

[gentle finch]

reed Made everything explode

[radiant plinth]

its not impossible

[scarlet fulcrum]

[gentle finch]

whitecatdoable

[scarlet fulcrum]

Time for arts to shine

[clever kernel]

u stall by tanking, but how goes the dps? then we have the aftermath of swarms

chain casters, slow seems to be important

[sly drift]

Tell me which stage is the hardest to you

[tidal sedge]

There's lot low rarety run tho?

[tidal sedge]

Cm 1st

[wary wing]

H10 3

is so toxic

[clever kernel]

it requires thinking

cant just slap some AFK or gnosis and win

dont tell me theres a lowstep h10-3

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is

[wary wing]

probably we can AH it now

[sharp wadi]

It can be hard if it on current patch with current ops, thing will be easier when new ops jump in

[wary wing]

we didn't have AH when it released

[clever kernel]

bruh

AH momen

cringe

[scarlet fulcrum]

It also done by AH

Glad tanking cannon

[clever kernel]

hmm, what if everyone has 5k hp and 30% dr

surely thats balanced

[sharp wadi]

Skadi can tank cannon even has half hp

[clever kernel]

damn

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah this one quite old

[wary wing]

uh
that lineup
is funny

[clever kernel]

mudrock op

[latent monolith]

AH isn't even in the record

[sly drift]

Because there are some ops that break the stage. Let's say we have to complete those map. Only with *5 .

[clever kernel]

lee3?

sheesh

[scarlet fulcrum]

That was record from release

[latent monolith]

It's probably possible to get lower with them idk

[clever kernel]

wait

dont tell me they malded with W2?

[latent monolith]

Lee S3 + medic is like the only viable afk Manfred stall

[wary wing]

? w2 doesn't need mald tho

[clever kernel]

isnt the mine placement random?

[wary wing]

it's random when no enemy in range

when she has enemies in rage
they have default prio

[clever kernel]

ah

thats nice

[gentle finch]

first one

[gentle finch]

PALLAS

PLLAS

[wary wing]

PLAS

PAS

PS

P

[clever kernel]

is this CM btw?

[wary wing]

H10 3 only has adverse

[sly drift]

There's only cm on H stage

[cyan gorge]

SN-S-5 is a cakewalk in comparison to H10-3

[clever kernel]

right...

i havent done story stages in ages

[civic nest]

sn-s-5 is just easy

[clever kernel]

i slept on ch11 still

[sly drift]

Yea I think.. It just painful

[gentle finch]

ch11 easy

[wary wing]

NL S 5 is even easier

[civic nest]

legit

[gentle finch]

bro NL-S-5

is a joke

[cyan gorge]

NL-S-5 was just Horn moment

[wary wing]

?

ah

[gentle finch]

hardest S stage was probably

uhh

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1XM41187uf ntrk only for flex idk what the purpose

[cyan gorge]

obviously didn't play during original run

[wary wing]

you a rerun kid

[gentle finch]

NL-S-3

for that event

[civic nest]

lmao

[sly drift]

It just that I can't think any stage that can compete with H10-3
I'm planning on making some "hardest shit" video or something

[gentle finch]

fr

skadi casually tanking everything

[wary wing]

?

[gentle finch]

on 0 def

[wary wing]

no

what

[gentle finch]

skull

I misunderstood

[wary wing]

OG nl didn't have ah mod

[gentle finch]

but still

[wary wing]

OG nl also didn't have horn

[clever kernel]

new players smh

[civic nest]

emperor blade still gives me ptsd when i was newer but its easy now so thats that

[wary wing]

it was skalter gaming

[gentle finch]

I quit around near light

no ntrk in my acc

[clever kernel]

i used all the AFK units i had

skalter, thorns blaze

[sly drift]

I think H9-6 give most player ptsd too right

[clever kernel]

oh and exu to kill those archers

[cyan gorge]

It took me far longer to do h10-1 than h10-3

[gentle finch]

Kinda

[civic nest]

h9-6 was easy tho

huh?

[gentle finch]

once I understood how her ignite worked

it was pretty easy

[sly drift]

It was like 60 enemies in one wave

[gentle finch]

wait

I'm

[civic nest]

thatsn h8-4

[gentle finch]

lappdumbing

[civic nest]

bro

[gentle finch]

H9-6 was easy as shit

[wary wing]

H9-6 is just slightly annoying

[civic nest]

literally

[wary wing]

biggest trauma is still H8-4

[cyan gorge]

It was?
guess my 3 weeks of mald is skill issue or smth

[gentle finch]

3 weeks?

💀

[clever kernel]

it requires me to use chalter cuz i aint brainstorming other strats, it disgust me

[civic nest]

u can prob do it in 1 hours at most

[scarlet fulcrum]

H9-6 just how u manage kill mobs

[gentle finch]

H stage I took the most time on is definitely H10+3

H10-3*

H8-4 is second

[clever kernel]

cant wait for pinch outs to have civs

[wary wing]

it's not the civs

it's civs + black snake

[sly drift]

I'm struggling too lol.
I still don't understand the "key" of that stage and ofc I refuse to watch vid or something of how it cleared.

[cyan gorge]

I only won cause I gave up using brain and loaded a Chalter guide

[sly drift]

"Guide"

[gentle finch]

literally just lanehold

and kill the boss

[flat sapphire]

3morbillion hp ufos

[clever kernel]

true!

[gentle finch]

I think I used silverash in H9-6

he was useful

[sly drift]

Dps check I think. The stage is probably just to prevent enemies to stack in one place but it stillhard to me

Idk

[gentle finch]

skill management is important too

wave timing

u can also kinda semi stall mandra if you have something tanky

she turns around every 0.001 seconds to slap them

[flat sapphire]

H9-6 is really easy now with texas2 especially

[gentle finch]

yeah

didn't think of that

maybe reed too but arts so idk

actually now I wanna try it with reed

[cyan gorge]

I did use Reedic + Tex but the opening swarms were still pain

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its beaten with e1 arts back then, with ifrit on team

So 2023 ops pretty much overkill

[gentle finch]

fr

[scarlet fulcrum]

Well the one who did that just built different

[sly drift]

Do you all think it's possible to clear all stage, the hardest shit like H10-3 included. With no *6

Like.. All stage

No *6

Tbh I believe that *5 is how you play Arknights ideally. *6 is just breaking the game.

Too much impact that one *6 equally to four *5 or something

[cyan gorge]

You can probably beat almost anything with 4* only

[latent monolith]

You can beat every single stage with 4 star only iirc

[sly drift]

Really? Even with no six star carry?

[latent monolith]

Yeah

It's not going to be easy ofc

But still possible

[scarlet fulcrum]

Someone beat it with 4* so ye

maybe arkrec have it recorded

[latent monolith]

Yeah it does

Remember that most guide videos assume mostly E1 4 stars

There's a big difference between E1 and E2 M6 mod 3

And also the fact that they have more niche options (like roberta, ethan, etc) built

[scarlet fulcrum]

Well i love my 12 slots, best qol

[gentle finch]

real

[tidal sedge]

Nah 5* doesn't have what it take to clear H stage, imagine deploy muse or melanta fight patriot, pre-amnesia doctor prob can

[latent monolith]

4 star only can already clear every stage

[sly drift]

Exactly.. There are actually some pre-amnesia docs playing the game

[balmy halo]

i mean u can abuse mines for patriot, and slowly chip away against using mines again and range dps

[tidal sedge]

Every stage? Dem wild

[latent monolith]

And patriot is a joke anyways, even H7-4 is 6op by both 5 and 6 stars

Although there aren't as many people playing 5 stars I think

Unless H12 is somehow doable 4 stars but impossible 5 stars

[balmy halo]

majority of AK community hates 5* because muh efficiency, and blinded by 6* overpowering content

[sly drift]

How

[latent monolith]

I think people just don't play 5 star only

Or maybe it's not on arkrec

[waxen swan]

There a YouTuber who just play 5*

[scarlet fulcrum]

even some known ytber sometimes play 5* only yea

[bronze gulch]

Im trying to beat CE 5 without using any support operator from another player but the slow dp recovery make me dying

Any strategy?

[waxen swan]

Just get more vanguard

[sly drift]

Use 4 vanguard

Pioneer is the most useful

[waxen swan]

If you don't have the 11 cost guard 6* just use more vanguard

[scarlet fulcrum]

show ur ops first maybe

[bronze gulch]

Sure

Moment

[cyan gorge]

2 pioneers, 1 charger is enough for start
the rest is just 4 blockers and some snipers

oh CE5

[scarlet fulcrum]

Usually newb made mistake dealing with jedi boi at start

[cyan gorge]

I was thinking the exp one

[bronze gulch]

@scarlet fulcrum

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh

[cyan gorge]

Lapp, Eyja, Firewhistle

ez win

[verbal dock]

How do you beat this level

[lavish snow]

Show ops and loadout

[bronze gulch]

I use chongyue to clap the boss

2 medic is enough

Perfumer needed

[verbal dock]

Oh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Start with exu and someone, u only need to produce dp after that. U have high leveles guard and medic should be doable. Just dont tank jedi boi with ur vg at that lv

[bronze gulch]

I hate jedi ngl

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah they deal arts dmg

So just dps them faster

Weak to phys normally

[bronze gulch]

Alr, gonna clap they ass

Thank for advised

[scarlet fulcrum]

gl, they give u enough dp at the start for simple setup 👍

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dont meele tank the boss unless u have ops to cheese it. Just let him circle while u dps from ranged tile

[verbal dock]

Uh it’s not working

Everyone keeps dying

[radiant plinth]

BAHHH

[verbal dock]

Even the eyja I borrowed

[radiant plinth]

9% hp left on the clone

65% left on boss

[lavish snow]

Show your loadout pls. Else idk how you fail

[scarlet fulcrum]

#strategy message here for example

If u want borrow just borrow someone better for facetank him. For example ntrk, specter or smt

[wise glacier]

Guys I’m currently stuck on anniliation 3, around 350-370 ish, my SA is only skill 5, is there anything that I can do?

[cyan gorge]

Get SA to sl7

[wise glacier]

I’ve been doing that but it would take a couple more days

[lavish snow]

E2 before sl7. Visible confusion

[wise glacier]

The main problem is that my bottom side would die because gavial’s heal is to weak

[lavish snow]

Gavial skill level? Plz tell me it's 7

[wise glacier]

3 lol

I just rolled kal’sit and warfarin so I’m building them rn

[scarlet fulcrum]

warf s1 obviously busted here yea

[lavish snow]

@wise glacier You have myrtle?

[wise glacier]

Yeah I do

Not built tho

[weak gazelle]

borrow thorns or ifrit?

[radiant plinth]

a skill level is worth about 20-25 regular levels

if you are going to try anni3 so early

maximize what u can get

[wise glacier]

I wasted so much resources to E2 Skadi and Angelina I got nothin left

[balmy halo]

get kroos to level 55 for her talent upgrade

[wise glacier]

K, didn’t notice that

So between silence, kal’sit, warfarin which one should I prioritize building first?

[balmy halo]

kal is a damage dealer so dont hold her in the same regard as the others

[lavish snow]

Kal'tsit imo. Although it because of Big dmg and lane holder for ne

[scarlet fulcrum]

Kal prio tbh, she can cover few lanes on this anni too

[weak gazelle]

yeah if have kal can solve this map
switch gavial to kal
and ditch meteorite

1 extra slot can be used for flexible maybe gravel or somebody to block
since kroos, meteor, eyja, SA enough to cover aerial enemies

[scarlet fulcrum]

well if u try enough its doable with those ops, just raise ur skill lv ops first ig

[tidal sedge]

Gonna swap HP real quick lol

[weak gazelle]

oh ops skill level as the main issue...

[scarlet fulcrum]

SA sL5 kinda curses ngl, i remember someone use it for r18 pyrite 🗿

[balmy halo]

not m3 is already cursed, what more if its sl5

[wise glacier]

Hold up I just noticed monster has 3.3khp with kal not even being E1 yet

K. That’s my current lineup for anni3, there anything to change?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Meteor will die

[wise glacier]

Yeah, I’d thought so,

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh wait u leaked

[cyan gorge]

Kal will not keep Meteor alive

[wise glacier]

Ik, I need a solution for bottom side somehow

[cyan gorge]

You should never consider her as a medic tbh

replace her a normal medic and monster with a defender

[latent monolith]

You can put specter middle lane and mon3tr in front of meteor facing up

[tidal sedge]

Bruh firewatch MVP this anni

[scarlet fulcrum]

e0 fw

[timid schooner]

OH CRAPPPPP

guess i should need a chain caster

[latent monolith]

Why is myrtle even on field at 324

[scarlet fulcrum]

That chalter position kinda bruh

Panic most likely

[tidal sedge]

anyone got ling m3 ?

[autumn grotto]

#friend-id

[tidal sedge]

Too much heal need few art damage or nuke, let monster on most btm
-saria sub medic

[fallen chasm]

omg firewatch user

[wise glacier]

Idk if eyja can solo hold bottom at M1 but I’m assuming not

[balmy halo]

did u make aure to deploy monstr and specter AFTER meteor? else meteor will get shit on by arts drones most probably

[tidal sedge]

Well M2 to do that

[radiant plinth]

maybe, just maybe.

[lucid mirage]

Can realter even keep Nian alive?

She's only got s1 and iirc she doesn't have the atk down talent at e0.

[radiant plinth]

she can

i can kill the clone in 40s

with the main body at ~30% hp

[lucid mirage]

And why quercus?

[weak gazelle]

the issue was boss 30% hp left right?
tbh that the hard part, last third of hp, cannot be blocked, summon unlimited mobs
redeploy wont make it in time

if me, i stall boss at E10
but stall it, ops require ~500 def

[radiant plinth]

the boss does arts

i have sufficient healing

and thats what i do

im talking about phase 2

i think i can do it

[weak gazelle]

its arts?
wait, shit i tho its phys cause i didnt see mention arts dmg
i mean stalling at that tile give us ~45s when boss reach p2 later

[radiant plinth]

ye thats what i do

its so good

[weak gazelle]

with that still 30% left, hm.....

[radiant plinth]

i dont actually how much i need

left

lmao

never gotten there

a lot of things need to go perfectly

i just wanted to share a low level strat

[weak gazelle]

lol
that much is unavoidable yeah
perfect frame etc

[radiant plinth]

not frame

the stuff that spawns from the yellow tile

too much defender makes me sad

[scarlet fulcrum]

E0 ifrit time tho mobs more dangerous here

[weak gazelle]

didnt count that huh
i count that tho in my run

[lucid mirage]

Maybe try Hilter instead of quercus? Less HPS, but the arts dps isn't too terrible.

[radiant plinth]

nah quercus is the best healing in the game

i got an idea tho

[lucid mirage]

How important is quercus' healing though? It looks like she's only healing minimalist and herself.

Oh and goldenglow

[scarlet ledge]

ello cobra

[weak gazelle]

i just can say good luck then
i have no idea with E0 strat

[glass monolith]

I have an idea. named "he is screwed"

[tidal sedge]

Suffering from lack dps

[glass monolith]

Also win faster so we can see you do e0 SSS

[lucid mirage]

I mean. SSS has quite a few buffs, and the devices are no slouches. That guard/def one can drop enemy atk by 80%.

Just load up 3 fullmax defenders and slowly beat the enemy to death.

There's no way they'll break through 24 block!

[glass monolith]

reduce enemy atk device only on DH path

[lucid mirage]

It's still an SSS clear

E0 Vulcan useful in SSS?

Nvm she's 2 block at e0

🚮

VULCAN ARTIFICER ALTER WHEN!?

[thick badger]

[glass monolith]

What device she will deploy? Pompei?

[tropic valve]

I don't feel like dropping enemy ATK in SSS is very useful since dead enemies have 0 ATK

[lucid mirage]

How you gonna kill stuff at e0 though?

[tropic valve]

oh is this E0 SSS?

then I can see it being useful

[glass monolith]

E0 inflict feels bad at enemy causing them to question their existance and quit

Also arts damage is GOAT when you can't get over enemy DEF stat

[lucid mirage]

Shalem s1 time to shine

[somber robin]

anyone have a problem where mudrock can't hold left lane on ex 8 cm?

i was so close

[lucid mirage]

Either skalter buff her or raise her to e2 90.

Or do a better job killing the towers

[somber robin]

ight imma keep 2 towers to stall the boss while letting mudrock survive

?

can mudrock survive with 2 towers on the map

[lucid mirage]

What? No. The towers increase enemy atk and movespeed

[somber robin]

i need the boss aspd to stall her just a little

cuz my dps is all packed in a spot

[lucid mirage]

e2 90 mudrock then or spread your ops out.

Perfumer s2 might work I guess.

Big might tho

[somber robin]

i was thinking about that but

wait yeah imma test that out

[tidal sedge]

E2 S2 m1 lvl60 Murdock is fine

[somber robin]

i got that but m3

[tidal sedge]

How come fail lol

[somber robin]

i had 3 towers on the field

[foggy grove]

which ex 8

[somber robin]

and those invis guys beat mudrock up

[somber robin]

current event

so imma bring perfumer

if that doesn't work i'll just leave 2 towers and not bring perfumer

if that doesn't work i'll do both

[foggy grove]

jsut kill the tower

normally 60 survives just fine

[tidal sedge]

Nono need to properly defend tower

[somber robin]

i need the boss attacking to stall her in a place where my dps and healing is all packed in

i'm bouta finish my first event without using a support unit

FUCK THEM TOWERS

[merry iron]

Guys. Any sniper recommendation for WB ex 8? Rlly struggle against phase 2 where the boss and the clone both fly.

[balmy halo]

chen alter, pozemka, schwarz, post mod rosa, buffed exusiai

[tropic valve]

in particular suzu + rosa are great for phase 2

[latent monolith]

I used an E2 40 S2M1 mud for left lane but ig I did nuke the boss (and had blemi on field elsewhere for a slightly faster cycle)

[balmy halo]

yea with towers its probably a different story on left lane

[somber robin]

NOOOOOOOO

FUCK

LEFT SIDE

[lethal dragon]

Put reed on left side

You are kinda overkilling on right

[crimson cedar]

im so over this stupid event stage 8 challenge mode, i cant do it no matter what i try

[tidal sedge]

Chill bro take your time restore your sanity...

[crimson cedar]

ive gone through legit 12 sanity pots

trying to do this stage

its not even the boss thats hard

its the stupid swarm of mobs after the boss is already dead that i cant deal with

[foggy grove]

what do you have

[tidal sedge]

Got chongyue?he good delete mob

[crimson cedar]

at the very end theres always a huge swarm of mobs and the -1 block count makes it impossible to defend i s2g

[foggy grove]

you can try to burst the boss fast so there is less spawning tile

borrow mylnar if you want

[crimson cedar]

yea i pretty much kill the boss within the first 4 blocks of its spawn or so but even thats still too much

[foggy grove]

ifrit and passenger should helps with all the mobs

[crimson cedar]

i tried kyostin strats, i tried buff army, i tried stalling

[tidal sedge]

Can't test run no drill
-elisium over kill

Exu cook 2nd phase,pozem could sub sa/mlynar

[crimson cedar]

lemme try

uh

[tidal sedge]

Early care miss on chongyue tile

[crimson cedar]

fk i dont have saga or build texas

built,

[tidal sedge]

Siege also fine

This just speed run burst boss

[crimson cedar]

will e2 lv 1 chongyue work even? i dont have him m3d

[tidal sedge]

Prob fine with skalter

[crimson cedar]

ok lets see

wait what about left side

[thick badger]

What I did to handle all the mobs was add chalter to the equation, she handles both mid and top lane handily

[tidal sedge]

Left mudrock haha

[thick badger]

Mudmud by herself afks left lane

[tidal sedge]

Sed alone with rock

[crimson cedar]

ok

lemme borrow uncle

uncle carry me pls

[tidal sedge]

There's 1 run with uncle success altho wrong direction 🤣

[thick badger]

U have so many good options for dps, even Irene. Why uncle. If u already killing boss and the mobs are the issue, borrow chalter, not uncle

Guess people are allergic to blue women carries

[crimson cedar]

tried irene

didnt work

bc the issue isnt dpsing the boss

i can kill the boss easy

its the mobs afterward

[thick badger]

Yep which is why mlynar is not what u need imo, chalter uptime better than mlynar for mobs

If the boss were the issue then yeah mlynar would make sense

His range can't handle 2 lanes like chalter can

[somber robin]

how much hp does 2nd phase shadow clone have?

[deft badger]

ex-8?

but he is the best option...

he kills the boss just to easy

[crimson cedar]

ok chalter does like

literally nothing to the mobs

[deft badger]

show what u got?

[deft badger]

nvm found ur team easy dude

thorns mud get a mlynar lumen 2 defender and texas add a caster thats it

[abstract storm]

Question: when you're dealing with a barrage of casters, and a few tanky enemies, what would you do?

[deft badger]

ahhh and vamp lady

[glass monolith]

Nuke them from safe distance

[abstract storm]

Oh, and the casters liquify the toughest operator you know of in seconds

[deft badger]

@crimson cedar ifrit, lumen, mud, thorns, bag, texas, mylnar, warf, 2 def thats ur team

[abstract storm]

Nuke them?

[glass monolith]

Which stage we talka about because without context there is that much solution i can offer

[abstract storm]

What if nuking isn't in the card 😢

Uh, it's an annihilation thingy. Lungmen outskirts

[flat sapphire]

Casters usually have low def so u can use stuff like aoe snipers or horn to kill them from a safe distance

[abstract storm]

Only one that comes to mind is Jieyun, is that okay?

Or Firewhistle if I bend the formation enough...

[flat sapphire]

Yeh jieyun is ok if u built her i think

[upbeat plover]

....that was easy

[flat sapphire]

For the tanky enemies u want to use arts

Or actually nvm. It depends

[abstract storm]

Tbh the tanky enemies aren't a problem, the casters just kill my arts operators too fast

[flat sapphire]

Yeh ok. So u can try hitting them with ur aoe sniper or push them into the holes in this case

[deft badger]

@crimson cedar red thorns facing bot, greed defender, orange ifrit facing top, yellow defender when boss spawns, pink mud, black lumen
texas s2 and if u need a video i can post it, u have nearly the same stuff i do
mlynar and warf to kill the boss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjC2bVFQNG4

[abstract storm]

The nearest hole is beside a tile where Jieyun should be (to deal with the casters)

Oh well, I'll try it out. Thanks for the advice!

[flat sapphire]

All good. U can come back if it doesn't work!

[flat sapphire]

Also, if u force close the game, the annihilation would refund all ur sanity

This works in annihilation coz force closing would record 0 kills

[abstract storm]

Didn't know that, wow. Also I thought of abusing the last deployed operator to take care of the straglers

That sounded wrong, I meant abusing the mechanic...

[flat sapphire]

U can use specialist fast redeploys to tank some ranged hits too

[tidal sedge]

Or disconnected arknight but force close faster

[flat sapphire]

Gravel is often used as a bait in this way

[thick badger]

Did u remember to activate S3?

[deft badger]

i literally send him a full guide how to do it since he has nearly all units i do 😄

[tidal sedge]

I love how medic strat making run easier but my brain refuse to use

[crimson cedar]

yes i mean with s3 she does nothing

[deft badger]

dude scroll up

f chalter u have all u need just get a mlynar support

[crimson cedar]

bro when i tried mlynar before someone said f mlynar all i need is chalter

i cba

[deft badger]

can u pls scroll up xD

i left u a message

[thick badger]

Chalter does nothing to mobs, this is something I had never expect I'd read lol. Guess it comes down to playstyles

[deft badger]

so read it and even a video

[crimson cedar]

its the defenders

i cant deal with the defenders

[deft badger]

u can!

[crimson cedar]

she doesnt kill them fast enough

takes like 6 bullets

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjC2bVFQNG4

ifrit thorns

texas s2 if u need

[crimson cedar]

my texas is only m3 on s3

[deft badger]

nvm

[crimson cedar]

xd

[deft badger]

just use her S2

u have the dmg

ifrit will shit on them

just use any sniper where i did put exu to stop her from moving

[crimson cedar]

slight issue

i dont have surtr

[deft badger]

u dont need her

thats just to bring her in phase

take anything that can punch her in phase

[crimson cedar]

what else can idk even

fking

irene ig

[thick badger]

Irene will shine through

[deft badger]

u can use golden where my exu stands

when the boss dies she can help u out clear even better

dont use her ulti on boss

the moment the boss is down recal mlynar and just put him on top he will be much earlier ready then i did use him in the video

only thing u need is that what i listed

4 defenders btw

ignor my surtr and the rest u see i didnt list

red thorns facing bot, greed defender, orange ifrit facing top, yellow defender when boss spawns, pink mud, black lumen

put golden 2 tiles infront lumen facing left so that she can hit boss, mid spawns and top

use texas S2 to fix leaks u have time

19/27 use what ever to bring her in phase, i did use surtr because that was the fastest way to do 😄

[thick badger]

Taxes S3 does a shit ton of dmg to shield guys 2, and has more waveclear than S2, since it's M3d, S3 should be fine for said fix leaks duty

[crimson cedar]

yea so

issue

the clone just

walks past my units

bc my goldenglow targets the units in top

[deft badger]

then put something up to hit it any sniper will do

ahh ok sniper has to be there since that thing does fly -.-

switch sniper later for golden after boss dies

[crimson cedar]

my platinum gets to see the light

[deft badger]

despawn sniper the moment the boss starts his phase the moment u see her recharging hp recall sniper put golden there