strategy

[full finch]

penans can kill 1 of them

[last mist]

Yes not m3 only m2 lvl 50

[full finch]

but 2 is too much

mine's lv80 and M2

[last mist]

On the last one 2 of them goes both the same time

With the ranged one bombardment too

[full finch]

isn't that what reed is for

[last mist]

She died

[full finch]

[last mist]

Didnt have skill up so yeah

2 melee 2 ranged leak

[full finch]

what are you using for the gundam from bottom left

there's a total of like 2-3 that take the center bottom lane

[last mist]

Lin s3 when they go center with ifrit

[full finch]

huh

yeah that should work

so how did you leak the other ones

[last mist]

It shouldve but nearl didnt withstand the punches so it leaked 2

[full finch]

oh lmao

borrow?

[last mist]

Ifrit

[tidal sedge]

M2 cringe?

[last mist]

I couldve killed the last 2 ranged too if i didnt lose too much on the lin 50/50

[full finch]

ifrit probably best borrow

[last mist]

I had borrow her

[full finch]

yeah

still not sure how penans died though

[last mist]

Prolly lvl and hp

Tho love how lin just says no the the ranged gundams

[full finch]

orange rocket launchers are 675 phys iirc

lv80 penans has 600 def

[last mist]

But its the melee ones that smashed penance

[full finch]

...

reed?

[storm current]

you can silence them btw

[full finch]

nothing a reed S2 can't handle

[storm current]

or just art like texalt

[last mist]

My reed is s3

[full finch]

[scarlet ledge]

[thin marsh]

Hi

I stuck in main story 5-4, is there anyone know how to clear it?

[full finch]

5-4?

what's giving you trouble

[dry skiff]

Just use AA snipers

Then guards on the entraces

[full finch]

nothing threatening either
bait the bombtails and sleep

[turbid badge]

jesus the tail difference in nian skin vs normal is huge

[full finch]

yes

default tail

is a pathetic little shit

[turbid badge]

baby stub and than majestic white tail

[full finch]

HG pls give default nian a tail that doesn't suck

[turbid badge]

have they ever updated chibi models

[full finch]

dunno

[gentle finch]

your nickname

[turbid badge]

ew chalters tail looks exactly liks chens and it looks like a horse

hrse tail

so small

[gentle finch]

is her skin's tail good

[full finch]

chalter tail is modest

ch'en skin tail not much better

[turbid badge]

YEA WAIT

BRB

fat is stored in the tail

[full finch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077883421948379167/1100323149452673024/006QZngZgy1hdby9kycksg30dw0k4b2c.gif

[turbid badge]

it turns red

[full finch]

chalter skin tail not better either

[turbid badge]

but uea

still small

not as noticeable as like dragon siblings/ reeds charmander tail

ho’ol tail

[full finch]

nian skin has a magnificent tail

unlike default

[turbid badge]

yea default is so nasty

so smol

[tidal sedge]

she shoot ink i gguess

[full finch]

with a sword too

well tbf so does dusk

ig ink swords are popular in yan

[gentle finch]

💀

looks like I'll have to get skin

[full finch]

default would be fine if not for the tail

[gentle finch]

sadge

[turbid badge]

Bro exactly

lmao u can like barley see her tail cuz her shield covers it

[scarlet ledge]

hm?

buy nian skin

[sly drift]

Man..
It would be nice if we have new op. Mlynar tier op that requires 100dp (or something) to cast the skill. This will make full vanguard squad notably strong.

[thin marsh]

Sorry, I just see your message

I'm having trouble in this side

[full finch]

what enemies

[thin marsh]

Whenever the monsters go this side, I die

[full finch]

both melee enemies in this stage are pretty squishy

if you're getting drones over there,

[thin marsh]

Let me have a look

[full finch]

try killing the drones closer to their spawnpoint

[sly drift]

Maybe tank sniper healer will work

With sniper ur main dps

[sly drift]

Bait

[full finch]

everything's got pitiful defenses

bait the bombtails

use snipers to kill everything

block and heal with whatever works

[scarlet ledge]

use bait
gravel exist for a reason

[sly drift]

The 34 guy is probably the problem. Most low def op will ded

[full finch]

breakers

they have a moderate amount of atk

but they're very squishy

[scarlet ledge]

excited for snow drone map

[sly drift]

Go Tank healer with sniper dps on this map. And gravel

[sly drift]

Playing this map as newb with no Lapp

[thin marsh]

Sorry, the map is wrong

It's this one

I'm having trouble at the bottom of left

[sly drift]

Bro do you have no *6

And yea. If vanguard can't hold them. Replace it with something else. And ranged dps

Tbf I don't really know which part of this map is notably hard. I can't really help you

[thin marsh]

Thanks

[cedar hound]

Concentrate it at center, so your medic can reach

[turbid badge]

yes 100 dp tp cast skill

[lucid mirage]

Saileach alter, requires nornal saileach to deploy outside of anni

[turbid badge]

bruhhh

1 dp eveey 4 secs

oh nice

medium force

10 hits of medium force

bruh

LMAO

eyja just +6% max hp for everyone in range and 12% redcued elemental damage bleh

oh wtf

s3 increases talent by x5

dats nuts

[scarlet ledge]

@turbid badge uhh yeah fucker switch

[tidal sedge]

Omg leite dalao

[turbid badge]

waow dalao

bruu

swire wants module lvl 3

and ponicirus is so tanky i kinda wanna build her

beefy bird

[steep tartan]

shes super stronk as an afk vanguard
i cant wait for birb

[gleaming lodge]

"so tanky"
Spot enters the field

[glass monolith]

Me: Need to do WB-7 auto
Shoyuu: Released Saga solo dps WB-7

[sly drift]

+30% max hp global range?

[last mist]

Probably

[sly drift]

That's fukin broken of a skill

[last mist]

Btw

50secs uptime

[glass monolith]

Now expect next pack of CN bosses to do 150% of your operator max hp

[sly drift]

It isn't bad at all. NG and Shining need 120

[last mist]

She only neds 70 iirc

40 initial

[glass monolith]

Connect Stainless S2 and Ptilo to her

[sly drift]

Maybe global instakill Theresis

[sly drift]

Tbh if this is true. Then she's very strong

[last mist]

It is

Maybe even higher who knows

[sly drift]

No downside S3

[last mist]

I forgor her talent 2 exact number

[gleaming lodge]

Since when is tanking and raw healing meta ?

[last mist]

Tbh thats too situational of a skill

[sly drift]

We said very strong. You disagree?

[glass monolith]

Quartz with +30% max HP buff

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

[sly drift]

Bruh.. Skadi mod3S3 max HP +ejya s3 would be over 15000

[gleaming lodge]

To me she doesn't look useful

Maybe she is good at what she does

But it's not useful

[sly drift]

She literally deny elemental damage globally. Wdym doesn't look useful.

[gleaming lodge]

Then that's what we call : niche (derogatory)

[last mist]

She is good at what she does but its situational

[gleaming lodge]

And if that situation never happens, it's not great

[last mist]

But hey good l2d

[sly drift]

Then what healing skill that is good according to you

[gleaming lodge]

The heals that do something else as well

Like Warf or Kal

Or Ptilo

[sly drift]

Then that's not healing lol.

You want buffer

[last mist]

Warf heals a lot

With s1

[weak gazelle]

ohh so this channel said poncirus was good

[last mist]

She's my main healer

[gleaming lodge]

No

She is garbage

[sly drift]

It wouldn't make ur ops survive hard hitter.
Ejya 30% max hp sounds promising

[last mist]

Prolly afk anni

[gleaming lodge]

Defenders already survive everything
And if not, then you shouldn't bruteforce your way into tanking it

[gleaming lodge]

You need two manual activations still

[sly drift]

How long ejya s3 last?

[last mist]

Oh yeah like thorns tho isnt it 44 sp

50s uptime eyja

[gleaming lodge]

40 SP

It takes like 70s at M3 total

Which is more than you should need your vanguards to stick around

And she can't lane anyways

Courrier moment...
Doesn't die but can't kill either

[weak gazelle]

completely agreed tho

shittier than zima slightly better than courier

to think slightly better than courier is an insult

[waxen swan]

Wait which one you talking about

[sly drift]

But for real. I don't expect anything more broken than Ejya +30% max HP global (If we arent misunderstand it)
You can make shits like surtr and Mlynar helidrop live longer even if you place them to like.. on enemy spawn if you want to.

[weak gazelle]

poncirus

[sly drift]

Global burst healing sounds

[foggy grove]

sounds niche

[sly drift]

You will use her S3 just like NG s3 or Shining S3

And she has her S1 as general skill too no?

[gleaming lodge]

I think you overestimate max HP

It's completely useless when you have low DEF

[waxen swan]

Wait who care for max hp

[sly drift]

Not only max hp. She has global healing burst (This what I think very strong)

And she totally deny elemental damage

[waxen swan]

Sound like cope

[sly drift]

Cope for what

[waxen swan]

Healing

[gleaming lodge]

Cope for healing

But maybe, we will see

Next POO I guess ?

[waxen swan]

Im not sayings we don't need Healing but Healing alone aint gonna make you finished the stage

[sly drift]

I'm not coping her. You all underestimate her lol

[sly drift]

Well.. I have all shit required to do damage. Maybe I can't understand it

[waxen swan]

Look at it like this

Is it better to try to out heal the damaged or just eliminate the problems with burst

[delicate furnace]

Minesweeping strat

[last mist]

Harmacists

[sly drift]

Yea.. now it's clear that you are one of that "Nuke all of them first"

[waxen swan]

Well because it work

[sly drift]

I cant say more

[last mist]

If it works then its good

[sly drift]

Yea but when you use Mlynar with all buff but the enemies still survived. That where most of player IQ drop to zero

[waxen swan]

Can barely be call medic let be honest here

[gleaming lodge]

I play defenders only
I can guarantee you, the game does not want you to tank

[waxen swan]

No you just do it twice

[sly drift]

Yea.. even me also play *5 or *4 only with barely any damage.

[waxen swan]

Defender only that gundam make me felt asleep

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah

Then you understand that you're supposed to burst everything

With 3w1u or something

In max risk CC you stall because that's the only way
And you rarely stall by tanking

[sly drift]

It depends on how you play the game isnt it. The threshold is when we actually have to thinking, which is when Burst you all proud of doesn't works.

[long epoch]

Stalling needs thinking?

[gleaming lodge]

What ?

Burst falls apart when you need to think ??

[sly drift]

You Don't?

[gleaming lodge]

Bro doesn't understand you need to think about skill and redeploy rotations....

[gleaming lodge]

No
Most "easy stages stall" is just a defender and 3 medics
I don't call that very smart

[waxen swan]

You forget the using the skill regularly

[last mist]

Skill rotation matters on hard hitting enemies

[sly drift]

Yea.. You can also use that for example. You maybe need only 1 medic + ejya to do the healing aight?

[long epoch]

Stalling is either "You win eventually because enemies can't get past you or kill you." or "You get RSI from using milliseconds pushing skills."

[last mist]

Idh burst/nukers so i just stall them to death till i get my reed to skill up

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah ?
That makes it even more braindead and low ceiling

[waxen swan]

Low effort strat is more lazy

[sly drift]

The lowest effort you can think is burst play isn't it

[last mist]

I have skill issues

[sly drift]

And blue woman

[gleaming lodge]

No it's not

Buddy you don't understand the tightness of most burst strats

[last mist]

How do i do this stage without leaks it seems hard for me

[long epoch]

AFK strat is the low effort one imo.

[still trench]

Is this talking about Firewatch

The burst

Or nuke

[gleaming lodge]

Try to kill Faust quickly
And make sure to not get hit by too many crossbows

[sly drift]

I play 26+ risk regularly with my own strat from scratch. I know what are these things

[last mist]

But it barely stings him

[gleaming lodge]

What ?

Faust has low DEF and low RES

[gleaming lodge]

Ok and ?
What do you usually use ?

[last mist]

Maybe im doing it the wrong way

[gleaming lodge]

If you need to stall at r26, it's actually sad

[sly drift]

Burst, Survive, CC?

Debuffs mostly

[gleaming lodge]

Debuffs ?

So you burst ?

[waxen swan]

Attack debuff

Lower damages

[gleaming lodge]

Ah yes
The famous Shamare Liskarm stall

[sly drift]

Yea..

[gleaming lodge]

So why do you try to say burst is bad then ?

Are you insulting yourself ?

[sly drift]

What do you mean I said burst is bad

[waxen swan]

Im pretty sure people forget shamare attack debuff because nobody's read her skill

[glass monolith]

People 100% forgot than Elemental damage of enemies based on enemy ATK because nobody mentions it anywhere, get fucked

[waxen swan]

Why did you ping me for this

[glass monolith]

why not

[waxen swan]

I was playing yugioh

[last mist]

[glass monolith]

Then why the hell you alt tab into discord, go turn 1 your enemy

[gleaming lodge]

???

Did you forget your own line of thoughts ?

[gleaming lodge]

.

[sly drift]

So you thought I'm insulting burst because I said that?

My bad then.

[gleaming lodge]

What were you saying then ?

You were arguing that raw healing is good because stall is better

=> eyjaberry is good

To which I reply "nah, stalling is stupid, and you never need that much heals anyway"

[sly drift]

The fact is you still need to stall even if you play burst bro.

In case of like 27+ or 30+

Let's take example the max 15risk daily in FTT map.

Where the eggs deals like half of elemental bar

[lapis hornet]

do we have eyjas numbers yet?

[gleaming lodge]

You're coping mate

Of course you still need some healing against trash mobs, but not that much to sacrifice all utility for raw healing

[sly drift]

What

[gleaming lodge]

What "what" ?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C965ufJSHmntH9ntBhESjsLbLLohceKGQxGQvMLXVBI/edit#gid=1912928565

This isn't up to date

But you almost see healing "just for healing"

[sly drift]

Tbf..
What are you trying to proof exactly.

For like... The whole conversation

[gleaming lodge]

That raw healing is not good

Neither for burst or stall

[long epoch]

Raw healing will be good for 6* Crusher.

snort copium

[sly drift]

I don't see why it's bad tbh.

[waxen swan]

Crusher only good for crushing my sanity

[glass monolith]

If my meth is correct you can use Quartz to stall H11-4 with right support

[sly drift]

How much hp she has

[waxen swan]

I would like your meth

[sly drift]

I don't own quartz

[glass monolith]

6400 maxed, add 36% damage reduction from Stainless, add glue, you winning

Yes i will need Surtr's hospital, but that's details

[lapis hornet]

are you guys arguing whether eyja is good? or whether she's good cause raw heal

[sly drift]

Glue

[sly drift]

I just stated that Ejya burst gonna be very good and squid rushing me with "No she isn't useful"

[lapis hornet]

ngl the only thing I looked at was her mitigation

which is 60%, probs more with module

so she's gonna be the ng of ele dmg

[sly drift]

What other skill does? Haven't check it

That point alone convinced me that she's very good.

[gleaming lodge]

Oh
Didn't know about that

Sounds fairly interesting

[sly drift]

And then burst healing with talent of +30% max Hp globally.
You can play Mlynar surt braindead burst spawn camp even safer

[long epoch]

Well, I would pick Eyjalter to make elemental damage stage less painful rather than her healing output.

Like using S2 for Mudrock

[sly drift]

Fishes theme

The most painful mechanic

[last mist]

you guys still going at it im almost done cooking dinner and yall still arguing

[sly drift]

Tell me what you are cooking. Maybe we will stop

[last mist]

Fish

Anyways i wanna try a full AH squad

Maybe ill try borrowing my friend acc

Tho can a f2p really have max pot skalter im doubting her

[glass monolith]

Surtr burn is max hp based... WAIT

[sly drift]

Oh right

But well at least she heals globally

[scarlet ledge]

ok imma redo boss stage

for farming

[sly drift]

Crystalline farm

[thick badger]

Isn't crystal's story stage more efficient than its event stage

[sly drift]

Event stage better

But everyone usually have it stored like 100+ because most ops barely use that mats

Waaaay fewer than Aketon or Mangan

[scarlet ledge]

ah sorry talking about sheep boss

[waxen swan]

There a lot of op that eat mango

[glass monolith]

Let's talk about eating rock

[tidal sedge]

Isn’t that what we doing everyday?

[sly drift]

How's new mechanic

Summer stages mechanic usually very stupid

[glass monolith]

Beeee 🐑

[celest solstice]

how?

[full finch]

9-19

[celest solstice]

mandragora just kills every single ranged unit I have that deals damage

[full finch]

[celest solstice]

mhmm

[full finch]

she has 60% damage resistance

so

you drop rocc on her

and damage resistance is no longer there

amazing!

but be careful because she can also drop rocc on you in phase 2

[celest solstice]

thats the thing

she dropped rock

[full finch]

avoid rocc

[celest solstice]

Ima go use penance against her

[full finch]

not going to work tbh

mandra kinda cracked

[celest solstice]

I killed phase 1 once

[full finch]

yeah but

phase 2 flies

until you rocc

[celest solstice]

how do I drop rock on her

[sly drift]

Forgor Lvl 1 skill
Fk me

[last mist]

E2 lvl 1 skill

[full finch]

can still fix that

[full finch]

you get a device, and you can just hit the roccs to make them fall
there was a tutorial on this earlier

plus there like 4 roccs in the center of the stage

should be able drop at least a few on her as she walks past
as long as you prep them before phase 2

[last mist]

Remove the adjacent ops on rocks

She makes it fall to them

[scarlet ledge]

annoyance

[last mist]

Hows the sheep doing?

[scarlet ledge]

annoyance

[sullen rover]

how do you kill the last knight in is3?

[celest solstice]

I know

Im experimenting, I use up 0 sanity anyways

[grand ginkgo]

borrow mlynar
kill her phase 1 with rocks
kill phase 2 with mlynar
easy stage afterwards

[full finch]

mlynar can't kill her without roccs

not solo

[grand ginkgo]

wrong

[full finch]

[grand ginkgo]

its storymode
and who said to not use rocks

[full finch]

oh

if it's story mode

then why is there a problem

[grand ginkgo]

i literally did it yesterday i think i still remember what i did

[grand ginkgo]

she still kicks ass

2x stats of 0 is still 0

[full finch]

uh

it makes your ranged units have 3000 HP

and ground units 5000

not even mandra can chew through that in a hurry

[grand ginkgo]

so just borrow for boss stages and save yourself a headache i think

[grand ginkgo]

well its 2k and 4k

not 3 and 5
but yes

[celest solstice]

who should I borrow

[grand ginkgo]

.

[celest solstice]

ah

[grand ginkgo]

mlynar facing up in the middle of the map

[celest solstice]

actually I can probably do this on my own with silverash

[grand ginkgo]

well doesnt hurt yeah

[full finch]

mlynar has 8500 HP in story mode lmao

[celest solstice]

yeah Ill do mlynar, silverash does nothing to it lmao

[last mist]

Mandra with mlynar p1?

[tidal sedge]

well physic dmg with true dmg better than physic dmg only lmao

[last mist]

Just use generic guardmiya + healers

[celest solstice]

wohoo episode 10

more suffering

[vernal lion]

Who Is Real 2.0, and even worse

[sly drift]

That sounds like a pain

[gleaming lodge]

What was who is real again ?

Dusk event ?

[opal kiln]

ye

[glass monolith]

CC7 and one of few event where i didn't feel a bit of sad to watch guide for stupid Trim

[tidal sedge]

more like who is the real one in Dusk Backroom

[gleaming lodge]

What ?

[scarlet ledge]

huh

what?

[gleaming lodge]

idk I'm confused by what ojisan said

[lilac hazel]

Any recommend ops for county hillock annihilation?

[gleaming lodge]

What do you have ?

It's not particularly difficult if you have a consistent stun bottom lane, and a plan against Mandra

[lilac hazel]

Hol up lemme screen shot on what ops i have

[cursive mango]

atttempted chocolate street, only got to 353 with a borrowed chenalt

[gleaming lodge]

iirc Horn S1 is really good on this one because of the SP towers

Not sure if it's a better borrow though

[lilac hazel]

....

[gleaming lodge]

Huh

Have you tried the map already ?

Because there really shouldn't be any problems

[lilac hazel]

Im afraid i might lose

[lilac hazel]

Nop i havent

[gleaming lodge]

Look up a guide on yt

Look at the waves

Understand them (don't carbon copy)

And crush it with your team

[lilac hazel]

I see

Thx

[gleaming lodge]

If you want any "precise" advice, come back here

But really by placing ops somewhat randomly (after seeing the waves and pathing) should clear everything

[lilac hazel]

I have watched many videos about this anni guide but some of them do have an ops that i dont have which why i came here for help

[lapis hornet]

iirc I liked thorns to spawncamp mandra but it's not really necessary

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

That is my point about carbon copying

[lapis hornet]

ng's not bad to facetank the invisible dudes if needed

[gleaming lodge]

You don't need to replicate the exact same thing

[lilac hazel]

[lapis hornet]

if you had like a wandering medic it'd be even easier probs, other wise you can put mudrock in front of blue box and avoid putting ranged units neaby so she tanks the fireballs

[gleaming lodge]

I don't want to be elitist mate but given how stacked your account is, you're not a new player. You kind of need to understand this at that point...

Well, failing and redoing annis is just excessively painful so I definitely won't blame you

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah u can have fun with those ops

This map is penance showcase

[cursive mango]

yeah seems to be an issue with my wandering medic on that map

[gleaming lodge]

Eh ?

You don't really need them if Horn kills all the casters from afar

[lilac hazel]

Can reed alter do that job in county hillock annihilation

[cursive mango]

no horn and I have to borrow the chen alt ;-;

ill see if I can find one that doesnt use chen alt

[gleaming lodge]

That job ?
What job ?

[gleaming lodge]

Wdym you need her ?
I'm saying you can use Horn S1 instead
Also, don't rush theses, some annis are pretty hard, if you can't do them right now don't worry

[cursive mango]

I just thought if I'd done the others yesterday I could maybe do this one today ;-;

getting to 353 is good tho right?

[lilac hazel]

Both up side and down side on the left part

[gleaming lodge]

You're missing the 375 and 400 rewards caps, but yeah it's not bad if you don't have many E2s

[gleaming lodge]

I don't get your point mate

[scarlet fulcrum]

U literally place horns s1 then afk in chocolate street. Only need to bait 350 and 380 ish i forgor

[gleaming lodge]

And no, every enemy has that +70 RES (silencable) buff, so don't use medic reed

[heady hedge]

just use lapp smh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bro u have penance

[lilac hazel]

I was meant these where theres alot of enemies coming from does reed good at exploding them with s3

[gleaming lodge]

Doesn't matter

Kill them with ground AoE next to the blue box

[lilac hazel]

Okay

[gleaming lodge]

Reedic isn't going to kill enemies with 70 RES anyway

I mean

[lilac hazel]

Smh

[gleaming lodge]

You can have fun with that

It will probably do something

But it's not a cheese or anything

[lilac hazel]

Yeah

[glass monolith]

I will try to use Reedic on PO0 anyway

[fringe jackal]

For annihilations, you can force shut the app and you won't get charged sanity for the stage if you exit the app

Before the map ends

[cursive mango]

thats sad, im only missing a thorns to be able to do chocolate street

[lilac hazel]

Dw i have the same problem abt not having thorn since he's still irreplaceable in every damn stage guides

[cursive mango]

I can borrow a ling, have a perfumer, but thorns is the missing piece to be able to deal enough damage

thorns or a horn tbh

[lilac hazel]

I see

Completed county hillock anni except im using support thorn

[lapis hornet]

you're not gonna farm it anyway

what's the difference

[lilac hazel]

Im fine with not farming i only get those reward

[cursive mango]

pulling strategy, whats the next banner directly?

after the kal banner

[glass monolith]

Wait like 2-3 days for announcement?

[cursive mango]

[glass monolith]

Same shit every 2 weeks

[cursive mango]

see thing is I have 117 yellow certs

i could in theory, get the other 63 I need to get elya from pulling on chung

[glass monolith]

This doesnt chance that standard banner doesn't follow any pattern outside of pattern of 3 which A. I don't know. B. Isn't Kal one from pattern so next 2 is completely unpredictable?

[cursive mango]

oh nu

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just get eyja during mumu if u desperate, save ur pull for now

[cursive mango]

oh wait I just got a 5 star from recruitment

just randomly

is Mayer worth any investment? I read here that she has a base skill at E2 but thats a lot of investment

[lucid mirage]

I'm fairly certain that the number of active people in this server that can use mayer effectively can be counted on both hands. Raise at your own risk. She's not as simple as Ling.

[cursive mango]

aww thats sad ;-;

+30% productivity in the factory tho!

[foggy grove]

e2 5* just for 30% is bad

[grand ginkgo]

wait so pulling enemies towards their path direction makes them literally go backwards?
should've read the mechanics document

[lofty thicket]

Yeah, can lead to some funny edge cases

Also Kroos without Kokodayo doesn't feel right

[inland lily]

e2 5* for just factory isn't worth

takes forever to get even

[grand ginkgo]

idk why i have sound in the recording at all
i play sound off as far as im aware

[lofty thicket]

Bizarre

[grand ginkgo]

ye

[lofty thicket]

Missing out on banger ost and va though

[inland lily]

no kokodayo

[grand ginkgo]

i turn it on sometimes when im playing on pc and i literally have nothing to listen to
never on mobile
the case for all games though

[lofty thicket]

Fair nuff

[thick badger]

Kroos australian accent is too good tho

[lofty thicket]

Yeah it's hard to choose on some ops

[vernal lion]

should have used stun mine lol

[grand ginkgo]

4 hp shield so i didnt really care
shouldve though yes, for the ingot

[latent monolith]

Enemies have waypoints that they pathfind to first before going into the blue box, this prevents them from always taking the shortest possible route to blue box (easily visible in for example flying enemies)

If you pull them before they hit a waypoint they go back into a waypoint first

[grand ginkgo]

damn thats pretty cool
sounds abusable too

[latent monolith]

It is abusable but not as much as it may seem tbh

[lofty thicket]

Most that can be pulled/pushed die pretty fast anyways

[gentle finch]

I turn up my volume to listen to the E2 promotion talk since you can only hear it once genuinely

[glass monolith]

And then there is NL-S-4

[tidal sedge]

WB-9 positioning?

[gentle finch]

lol

set up lane holder on bottom lane and top lane

Pozy the boss twice

add silverash if u want

if anything dies or leaks just put saria behind it

skalter for comfort

Pozy can solo first phase and second phase so use silverash to kill the one that spawns on top lane

u can use eyja for extra damage if needed

[cyan gorge]

Something like this I guess, Horn/Firewhistle unnecessary

[deft badger]

the hell is that thing?

[cosmic thicket]

which thing

the thing in the bottom left?

[deft badger]

that boss dude, but nvm

[deft badger]

he just took me by surprise, went all brrrrttt on my liskarm 🙂

[celest solstice]

hello guys, need help here yeah

just deploy total of 4 lane holders and 2 snipers and thats it or?

[cyan gorge]

You only need 2 blockers

Everything goes through the middle

3 snipers minimum

Bring bait for bomb drones

[deft badger]

any advices doing it the first time?

[glass monolith]

Enjoy your suffering

[deft badger]

xD

for starters where should i place chen 😄

nvm payloads on the top of that and they are shooting them

[cyan gorge]

2 tiles to the right of Thorns

[deft badger]

have to rr anyway i lost one payload

[deft badger]

here?

what's coming bot? can i leave gummy there

[cyan gorge]

Any lane holder can hold bottom

Also, yes that spot

[celest solstice]

how do you do this

[cyan gorge]

Steward the frost drones

[celest solstice]

I dont use steward

I use eyja yes

[cyan gorge]

Any caster can kill frost drone really

[celest solstice]

and the ground units?

[cyan gorge]

Steward’s talent just makes it simpler

Just use your normal blockers

[eager gate]

Is there any other character that can solve wb-7's entire middle ground aka 7 cars on their own? That isn't Specter or Ling

[cyan gorge]

Penance s2

Horn

[eager gate]

Dog rushes into blue on 23dp tho how do you expect me to get a defender by then

[cyan gorge]

Use vgs

[eager gate]

But I'm trustfarming my rat and indian sanktarkaz

[cyan gorge]

So have I

I’m content with my 6 op trust since I’m only farming for like 4 ops

Giving up one slot for a pioneer/Canta probably won’t kill you

[eager gate]

might as well give puzzle some levels then, don't wanna waste space on ops with 200

and all of the vgs I have on at least e1 are 200 by now

[celest solstice]

now Im struggling with this

didnt attach pic my bad

nvm, was able to do it

[halcyon flower]

advice for a setup for h11-1? i can share my roster if anyone's able to give advice

[grand ginkgo]

is that main story?
if you are spending sanity on this, i think it's wiser to try your best in event instead

[cyan gorge]

Chalter/Mlynar middle, strong sniper top, any lane holder for bottom

Any stun/sleep cancels caster charge

[halcyon flower]

im mostly having an issue of any melee units getting rolled over instantly

not sure how many healers I need

[cyan gorge]

2 is enough

Well 2 aoe medics

[halcyon flower]

like młynar is deleted by the first enemy in range of him

[cyan gorge]

Then bait

I did this

[halcyon flower]

ah this helps
seems like Thorns can also solo hold bottom?

[cyan gorge]

Probably with some help

I had Astesia help bottom

[celest solstice]

well I am, because Im forced to

[grand ginkgo]

why

[celest solstice]

its fine, Im getting OP from it

I have a lot more days to grind event

[grand ginkgo]

cant buy out the shop if you spend too much sanity elsewhere

[cyan gorge]

Event will be gone before you know it

[grand ginkgo]

whos the guard that costs 31

[cyan gorge]

Astesia

[celest solstice]

I have bought alot from the event already, like all exps and 5000 lmd packs

also like a decent chunk of the furthest ones and that gold mat near firewhistle token

[grand ginkgo]

well, pretty much the entire shop is much more efficent than whatever farming you'd do elsewhere

so it's important to buy as much as you can, preferably all of it

i still dont get it, why u do story?

[celest solstice]

oh Im not farming

trying to unlock this

[grand ginkgo]

oh that bullshit
for reed e2?

[celest solstice]

Ive been grinding story like maybe 3 hours ago

[celest solstice]

no not reed e2

[cyan gorge]

That’s in chap 4

[celest solstice]

Kaltsit and Mountain

[celest solstice]

no no

the workshoip

[scarlet fulcrum]

Prob s5-9

[cyan gorge]

You’re doing chap 5

[celest solstice]

no no, theres another

[grand ginkgo]

gel is craftable in workshop?

[celest solstice]

nuh uh

[scarlet fulcrum]

T4 is

That one ch 4

[cyan gorge]

Again, chap 4

[celest solstice]

I am doing chapter 4

WDYM

[grand ginkgo]

oh that gel
we got 10 from last event, you probably missed it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ur pic ch5

[celest solstice]

earlier was chap 5

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats why

[celest solstice]

was grinding that for this

tried to unlock it

[scarlet fulcrum]

That s5-9

[celest solstice]

yes

and I just unlocked it an hour ago

[grand ginkgo]

how many of those do you need

[halcyon flower]

got it cheers

[celest solstice]

4

for both mountain and kal

total of 8

Reed Alter is easier to do

[grand ginkgo]

reed alter is easier ye
you get a lot of resources you need for free

farming salt after getting those freebies though

[celest solstice]

ah right also grinded IS-2 for like 3 hours earlier

[scarlet fulcrum]

investigation mode also ez af and faster on is2

[solid dew]

still have ptsd from getting fucked over in IS2 by maintenence

[grand ginkgo]

ive been playing for a bit too
its not fun

i dont like roguelikes and this is a shitty one

[solid dew]

yea if you have unbuilt ops its kinda tricky (i learned the hard way)
thorns S3M3 basically makes it very easy

so does pozy, or ling

[grand ginkgo]

i borrow thorns and get past floor 3 pretty much every time

but it's mind numbing to grind like that
id rather have fun
and i will try to, after getting to lvl 18

[solid dew]

hes just too good in IS2, has everything: ranged dmg, melee, healing, arts, physical etc lmao

[solid dew]

im still trying to get all the rewards, im at lv 96 on it rn
still need to get ending 4 (again) too (MAINTENANCE WHYYYYY)

[celest solstice]

Ive unlocked it

I just need a lot of coagulating gel...

god help me

[scarlet fulcrum]

1st encounter rng for 4th ending kinda cursed

[grand ginkgo]

wow jaye is actually pretty strong
or is he not

[pallid veldt]

hes pretty good in IS2

[celest solstice]

NO NO NO NO DONT DO ME LIKE THIS MANJUU

[solid dew]

at least its easy to speedrun F3, but im still malding over losing SOLELY because of maintenance

aaaaa

[pallid veldt]

jaye is a very strong 4* overall

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nah mate, 15 run without 1 isnt fun

[cosmic thicket]

he's really good yeah

[grand ginkgo]

you can just wait til an event that has grindable gel
im not sure when it is, does IW have gel?

[celest solstice]

screw it, I know I wont be able to get either of those 2 within the event time, Ill just go e2 reed

[solid dew]

rng moment (i love rng)

[grand ginkgo]

and yeah if you can do an easier e2 just do an easier e2
cucking yourself out of event rewards to rush e2 mountain over an easier reed seems eh

[celest solstice]

should I grind more stages

[grand ginkgo]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just do OF stages

[celest solstice]

I was planning on rushing kaltsit instead

[scarlet fulcrum]

It cost 0 sanity

[celest solstice]

whats of again-

[cosmic thicket]

yeah OF stages are goated

heart of surging flame

[scarlet fulcrum]

Heart of surging flame

Side story

[celest solstice]

but I already did it-

[solid dew]

why are they actually 0 sanity? like what? was it because it was the first summer event or something

[celest solstice]

theyre asking me for sanity

[grand ginkgo]

does jaye s2 heal himself or only others

[solid dew]

anyone in 8 tile radius

but its random tho

[grand ginkgo]

wait
8 tile radius? full map?

[solid dew]

as in the 8 tiles around him

[grand ginkgo]

o

lmao

[solid dew]

sorry, probably couldve worded that better

[celest solstice]

Ill just do OF, even if it costs me sanity, its cheap

[cosmic thicket]

or wait for WB ex stages?

like there's no rush to get the pack LITERALLY NOW

[lapis hornet]

I can't sleep if I don't get chungus right meow

[celest solstice]

when will it get wb ex tho

[grand ginkgo]

this seems like actually pretty good hmmm
i have not bought a single one of those pro enhacement packs
later ones seems pretty okay

[grand ginkgo]

4 days

[celest solstice]

well then, Ill do it now so I can use sanity later

makes sense right?

[cosmic thicket]

imo you should since they give equivalent orundum + extra mats

[solid dew]

in a nutshell, they give you what you would get if you converted your OP into orundum, plus extra stuff
definitly worth if you dont need/want certain skins

[lapis hornet]

pro packs are literally converting primes to oru and giving you 10-20% percent on top in sanity value as freebies

[grand ginkgo]

well i am not interested in buying orundum for OP in the first place so its not really a nobrainer

[celest solstice]

2 more-

[celest solstice]

?

[lapis hornet]

kirn typing a novel

[lapis hornet]

but basically you had to use special event currency to do stages when OF first ran, so they just made it 0 sanity once they put it in side story

[celest solstice]

Ive been grinding arknights... for nearly 10 hours already, straight, technically not because I read inbetween but still

[solid dew]

i see, thanks for the explanation

[halcyon flower]

steam knight air strike can't be baited right? I've tried placing stuff near but it aims for the back line

[solid dew]

it aims for highest HP, so you can bait it yea

[scarlet fulcrum]

That stage used to obtain event tickets thing iirc, then u burn them on of-f. It used to cost sanity during event. Well its just hg thing. I actually forgor, thats what i remember

[celest solstice]

how many minutes does it take for 1 sanity to rep?

[solid dew]

6m

[celest solstice]

Ill probably just cook in the meantime'

yeah Ill cook and eat

[cyan gorge]

It prioritizes highest hp iirc

[scarlet fulcrum]

Highest hp

[scarlet fulcrum]

I actually tring to remember smt 💀

[grand ginkgo]

wait those those mechanical things like mines are not one time use
they refresh every battle

what in the actual fuck

[verbal sparrow]

https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Steam_Knights/Enemy
you can read boss mechanics from the game or on fandom wiki which usually has more info

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cake chungus enjoyer actually

[dense compass]

power

[pallid veldt]

power...

[scarlet fulcrum]

power... 💨

[halcyon flower]

I'm heartbroken

it has more hp than the boss

it killed everyone

[verbal sparrow]

one usual trick is to try killing the trees first before the boss

but when I tried that map I actually didn't bother with the trees and just bruteforced with surtr and sexas and some lane holders

[halcyon flower]

yeah one tree survived and steamrolled every op on that screen

[verbal sparrow]

your roster should be beefy enough. just need smarter placement at the end

[glass monolith]

Long live Ambriel who focus tree first... Then stainless turrets. then boss... Fuck boss has more def than stainless turrets which are designed to not be attacked by deadeyes

[verbal sparrow]

stall more until they all come to range. suzuran ftw

[scarlet fulcrum]

Scammed by 10 enemies count

[dense compass]

YOO

wtf

woops sorry

new cn stages work for cyelon

[scarlet fulcrum]

Seems like it, ceylon homesickness

[upbeat plover]

hi! im a new player (kinda, im lvl 46) and im wondering who I should focus on E2ing next?
I already have chongyue at e2, so I was wondering who I could benefit from more.

for more info, I have Myrtle at E2. and gummy

[cyan gorge]

Reed and Kal

[sour mantle]

I would like to say Bag E2 but maybe healing for Chongus is better so Reed/Kal ?

[upbeat plover]

alrighty tysm!!

[cyan gorge]

Bag can wait a bit, early game isn’t pressed for dp

[upbeat plover]

ill go for Kal first then

and Reed second

[sour mantle]

He can already Flagpipe + it makes a second op which deal damage from ground.

That was my reasoning but healing should be better indeed.

[upbeat plover]

I do have Elysium too!

[scarlet fulcrum]

Kal prio

[cyan gorge]

There isn’t a single bit of content outside high risk cc where flagpipe isn’t overkill

[sour mantle]

Fair enough, but swimming in dp >>> playing

[cyan gorge]

I use Texas + Canta over flagpipe

[sour mantle]

Flagpipe + Texas + Canta

[scarlet fulcrum]

sounds like the guy who e2 myrtle as first e2

[upbeat plover]

I e2'd myrtle as my first e2

[cyan gorge]

Nothing wrong with that

[latent anvil]

Myrtle e2 first is pro

[cyan gorge]

Myrtle was like my 5th or 6th

[scarlet fulcrum]

Myrtle benched forever until cc beta, and that was for s2

[glass monolith]

3rd or 4th here. But like my first were Aciddrop and so my opinion in this chat is forbidden

[scarlet fulcrum]

[sharp wadi]

Kal then bagpipe and reed later

But if you do bagpipe you doesn't need to m3 bagpipe, pick some flag vanguard and s1m3 first

[hoary geyser]

Unpopular opinion, there is no should, depends on what you need, arts dmg? Reedalter, Bosskilling? Kal, Laneholding? penance, Need Dp? bagpipe

Personally I would go for bagpipe because it is already E1 50 compared to kal

[sharp wadi]

Well you can decide kal just much more useful than others.
Even current cn events that you against those pinch out sheep kal handle better

[hoary geyser]

Since ur new player ur gonna be short on basically everything, I honestly wouldn’t focus too much on 6* ops, since imo multiple 4* or 5* e2 is better then one 6* e2 most of the times

[sharp wadi]

You can't tell that on running event, that has plenty resources to e2 max someone

E2 4* just 1/6 or 2/6 of resources

[glass monolith]

4* also skip hellhole of AP-5

[hoary geyser]

Just me two cents on things as a day 1 player

I found focusing on my 4 and 5’s way more helpful than 6*

[scarlet fulcrum]

well dpends on what you usually relying.tho I will say e2 6* after base built still better

[glass monolith]

i have 60 e2s of them 30 are 6*, 24 5* and 6 4*

[hoary geyser]

He said he is lv 40 ish, I remember being super poor as a f2p lol

[glass monolith]

I love unique bullshit and 6* often has most unique bullshit there is

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nah mate, base is ur friend

[tough patio]

I’m a new player too so take my opinion with a grain of salt. But I just e2’d Reed and her s3 has been super useful. It’s what helped me beat the event boss

[cursive mango]

is elysium worth getting the skin from the current shop?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Skin subjective. I prefer his e2 art

[cursive mango]

not seen his E2 art yet

[scarlet fulcrum]

Use wiki or smt

[cedar hound]

Summer ely better

[cursive mango]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Like i said its subjective, if u love it just buy 👍

[cursive mango]

na ill save the ord thanks, E2 does look good

mines E1 atm but I dont see a reason to E2 yet, which is sad so I cant see the art ;-;

[scarlet fulcrum]

Well i just feel like his jaw different on both skins. Its just me 💀

[gentle finch]

dam what he say

[cursive mango]

damn this is stacked

[scarlet fulcrum]

Wait actually only on summer one

His winter skin still fine

[cursive mango]

id look to E2 Reed tbh, her third skill very very good

though I would say having so many six * at E1 already might be too many resources, 4 * can do a lot of work early for minimal resources compared to six *

[scarlet fulcrum]

At e1 they still good, unless we are talking about rushing reward for newb "starting" during CC season. That one actually notbad for first e2 copypasta purpose. Else newb just chill with farm node while focus on early squad+base and learn about game

[scarlet ledge]

@scarlet fulcrum ughhh gonn forced myself tocplay is3

[scarlet fulcrum]

is4 hive mind made u lazy?

Can feel that, i never touch is2 now

Except in alt

[scarlet ledge]

nah

[scarlet fulcrum]

Based

[scarlet ledge]

i havent touched new is4 lvl added

[scarlet fulcrum]

[scarlet ledge]

my alt is is3 lvl

0

[scarlet fulcrum]

Juicy mats

[gentle finch]

time to try..

Lin start in IS3

[scarlet ledge]

@scarlet fulcrum oh ye my cn pulls is very nice

[scarlet fulcrum]

Got eyja alter

?

[scarlet ledge]

ye

and gav2

[gentle finch]

I saw on YouTube

lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

bruh wat, lucksacc

[scarlet ledge]

i e2 gav 2 and rn at s2m2 training room

[gentle finch]

symbiosis 🔥

speaking of luck

I pulled 2 nians this banner

[scarlet fulcrum]

Wait i just want to confirm eyjalter 1st talent, is it based on max hp and 10% of 1k circle respectively?

@scarlet ledge

[scarlet ledge]

@scarlet fulcrum Talent 1: Normal attacks additionally recover a certain amount of HP and elemental damage for several seconds (has an upper limit)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah ik, i just want to confirm smt

maybe will watch showcase after my internet back to normal

[scarlet ledge]

well i cant test mine

she is e0

[scarlet fulcrum]

[gentle finch]

????

[gray oak]

We don't talk about it

[sullen granite]

A screenshot from a previous attempt, but it shows the same problem. I'm capable of killing the boss, but I get overwhelmed by the horde. Any tips?

[last mist]

2 defenders on bottom cant hold it?

[sullen granite]

I can try that

[last mist]

You have lava tho i suggest putting mlynar on the tile the boss was

Both defenders on the melantha and mlynar tile healing defender on back healer(s) facing them down

It could probably reach the clone too or maybe it needs to move forwards first

[sullen granite]

Well this is what I'm currently trying to do

[pallid veldt]

why is kal s2 not getting used

[last mist]

Monst3r could help relieve the bottom trashes with the aoe from s2

So yeah why not

[pallid veldt]

kal s2 is a nutty skill

even at sl7 its solid

[full finch]

E1 50 mon3tr has 1k ATK
kal S2 rank 7 is +50% ATK for mon3tr

[sullen granite]

Wait I can use Mon3tr when she's at e1?!

[full finch]

not to mention kal S2 has the highest uptime of any durational skill in the entire game

[gentle finch]

ok Lin start at d7 is

well for me it was fine

not good not bad

[full finch]

using lin in IS

[gentle finch]

I had to try

[pallid veldt]

isnt lin good in IS4

kermit said that

[last mist]

S1M3 for IS?

[gentle finch]

I tested in d7

[last mist]

I did use her on my lumen run but not s1 cause only my s3 has m3

[gentle finch]

also good for precarious defense

[full finch]

but does she work for ooc

[gentle finch]

the throwers don't damage her

[full finch]

[gentle finch]

idk

didn't encounter

I would've tried possibly but my floor5 had the blind thing

[full finch]

is there any unit that's a hard counter to that stage

[gentle finch]

oh yeah she's decent in troglodyte tribe as well

[pallid veldt]

to ooc?

[full finch]

yeah

[pallid veldt]

isnt mostima unironically good

in OOC

i would expect so

[gentle finch]

pozy kinda

[full finch]

but the throwers

[pallid veldt]

:ya:

[gentle finch]

has a good tile

but not hard counter really

[full finch]

mostima doesn't do anything to the throwers

[gentle finch]

Nian can tank some

on skill

[full finch]

who unironically gets E2 nian just for ooc tho

[gentle finch]

a CN guy

[full finch]

and also there's 2 lanes

[gentle finch]

who did a leakless d15 emergency ooc

he drafted specifically for it

[full finch]

well nian is cracked af

this is true

[gentle finch]

also I forgot Lin barrier stuns

[full finch]

it's only for 1s right?

[gentle finch]

the stun isn't bad but kinda unnecessary

yea

[full finch]

free crowd control

can't argue with that

[gentle finch]

mhm

I'm thinking of other stages I did

[full finch]

lin pots are really good

kinda sad I can't go all in on this banner

[gentle finch]

she was either pretty decent on the stage or did absolutely nothing

the only exception was highmore

she kinda helped ease sexas need to deploy on the left cuz of her stun

but that's all

[full finch]

I should play some IS3

but I suck

[gentle finch]

and you can't even place her when highmore is alive because she'd die

[full finch]

a lot

[last mist]

I wanna get atleast the talent 2 increase

[gentle finch]

idk if she can live with mod

[gentle finch]

🥴

it's fun

[last mist]

Texas with high aspd is nuts

[sullen granite]

I just think I haven't invested enough in the right ops for this level

[gentle finch]

can't you just borrow

[scarlet fulcrum]

maween cant win

[pallid veldt]

maween cannot beat all stage...

[sullen granite]

Guess I'll have to. I avoid borrowing whenever possible so I can still auto deploy

[balmy halo]

with enough people to hold down bottom lane, mlynar can kill first and second phase by himself btw

surtr is on s1 here to simulate mousse because i dont have a leveled mousse