strategy

[sly drift]

Does the skin makes her perform better or worse

[full finch]

no difference

[lucid mirage]

Btw, weakening is considered a status effect, like slow, and doesn't stack with multiple sources right?

[full finch]

attacks will just hit the enemy at most 1 frame earlier or later

[full finch]

wdym weakening

[halcyon fiber]

what 5 stars should I be aiming for in recruit, for general use

[full finch]

warfarin

[lucid mirage]

Worse, but the difference is so minute that any strat which gets broken by it was not good to begin with.

[lucid mirage]

Hexer module effect

[civic bear]

no defined worse/better

[sly drift]

Blue poison, Warf, Ptilopsis, spectre are the best *5 unit in recruit

[lucid mirage]

points at plat skin and ange skin failing to kill that one slug gifs

[halcyon fiber]

👍👍,

[full finch]

only plat skin is a noticeable debuff

[scarlet fulcrum]

gud skin

[full finch]

https://i.redd.it/x2wgczw8hbp51.gif

[lucid mirage]

The fuck? It's actually noticeable in plat skin?

[full finch]

barely

[scarlet fulcrum]

I always bought skin with bug

🐛

[lucid mirage]

Fucking hell.

[full finch]

the difference is tiny

and it will never matter

[scarlet fulcrum]

Only to mock ppl

[lucid mirage]

Something something that one time.

[lofty thicket]

Or for trivia quizzes

[lucid mirage]

So about weakening

[sly drift]

The real pay to lose skin

[lucid mirage]

It doesn't stack with multiple sources right?

[full finch]

it's a named debuff so it probably doesn't stack

however

it's a variable amount

so idk

probably works like fragile I'd guess

[lucid mirage]

I mean, fragile is variable too

[full finch]

highest number takes precedence

[lucid mirage]

So any ops apart from hexers and realter with a 100% uptime atk debuff?

[full finch]

it's possible for mousse but she needs help

shamare might also be possible with sp battery

[lucid mirage]

But nothing lazy huh?

[full finch]

probably not

well idk

[sly drift]

Isn't fragile and Weakened the same debuff type

[full finch]

maybe ange mod3 + sail + ayer makes mousse attack fast enough

but who knows

[lucid mirage]

Right now the 20% from realter with a further 10% from hexer module and especially gnosis who has cold looks pretty devastating.

[full finch]

realistically you won't need 100% uptime on atk debuffs

[sly drift]

What inflict Fragile and what inflict Weakened

[full finch]

but you should be able to rotate S1M3 waai fu with shamare anyway

iirc this is what 5⭐ only did on cc7 max

[lucid mirage]

It's a translation issue that caused them to be the same, but in EN fragile is an increase in damage received, and weakening is a decrease in damage dealt.

[latent monolith]

Weaken is a debuff to enemy atk, fragile is a damage amp

[lucid mirage]

Hexers are getting a module that lets them apply a 10% weaken with 100% uptime.

Combined with realter that's a constant 28% attack debuff

[latent monolith]

Use shamare suzuran for an additional 70% uptime 50% atk debuff

[full finch]

.

[lucid mirage]

would Ch'en mod 2 give enough sp to make mousse 100%?

[latent monolith]

Mousse S1M3 is 100%

[lucid mirage]

It takes 5s to charge

and lasts for 5s

[full finch]

it's like 80% uptime

[lucid mirage]

There's a delay between applying the debuff and the debuff wearing out, it's her atk interval.

[full finch]

keep in mind that mousse has an atk inverval of 1.25s

[latent monolith]

Yeah so that's exactly 5 seconds for 4 attacks

[full finch]

no

5x1.25 is 6.25s

[latent monolith]

It's 4 attacks

[lucid mirage]

4 attacks to charge

[full finch]

4sp + 1 to inflict

[lucid mirage]

She needs a 5th attack to apply the debuff.

[full finch]

dw I made this mistake before

[elder flume]

It gets longer with double attack

[lucid mirage]

This isn't like chalter where s1 starting and ending causes an instant attack.

[full finch]

the double increases the interval too?

scam

[lucid mirage]

Probably because of the foreswing backswing rather than a full on interval increase.

[full finch]

how many frames are lost or do you not remember

[elder flume]

I do not play with frames to know enough

My experiment method is fuck around and find out

[lucid mirage]

Hmmm Ch'en is 1 sp every 3s. Oh god the calculations to figure out how that fits into mousse's s1 cycling....

Fuck, I'll just brute force it like I always do.

[latent monolith]

That guarantees at least 1 sp every skill cycle

[full finch]

lemme see

ayer is 10 aspd

sail is 12

mod3 ange is 13

surely 35 aspd is enough

[lucid mirage]

I'm worried about that 1sp coinciding with SP lockout.

Huh, so assuming I get lucky and her talent doesn't proc at all during the 5th cycle, it should be fine.

But the increased atk interval from talent could throw off the 5th cycle and end the debuff.

Then again, assuming the debuff is applied after the attack lands, there's going to be a gap the size of mousse's attack animation.

[full finch]

[lucid mirage]

Ngl tho

having to use 3 ops for a perma debuff is well...

really annoying.

And mousse isn't even an actual debuff. She's a negative buff

[full finch]

anything goes in hypothetical scenarios

[lucid mirage]

I mean, I plan on using this to get my revenge on steamknight for making me have to mald h11-4.

[full finch]

anyway, what do you think gavial mod will do

[lucid mirage]

Based on Utage mod, a +6 and +7% for mod 2 and 3 respectively.

[full finch]

hoping it won't just be 14% and 6%

[lucid mirage]

Worst case it'll be +5.5 and +6.

[full finch]

and more like

17% and 8%

at least she gets hp, atk, and def as mod stats

since all 3 are good

[lucid mirage]

Yeap.

[full finch]

her HP just kinda low

for a statstick

[lucid mirage]

Running gavial mod 3 on sss with 5 defender sets would be an interesting meme setup

[full finch]

lmao

[lucid mirage]

10 block to really get the talent running.

[full finch]

the 110% scale on blocked enemies is also awesome

S3 enjoyers eating good

[lucid mirage]

S2 eating better. Because it doesn't have to be gavial blocking so she's not taking damage.

[full finch]

[lucid mirage]

Imagine if they really did give +8%

[full finch]

would be awesome

1 enemy would make the total 25%

[lucid mirage]

10 block in SSS with 8% each....

[full finch]

hits enemies equal to block count btw

[lucid mirage]

I think the initial boost is gonna be 15% though.

[full finch]

imagine not having p3

smh

a pitiful +10% and +4% for non p3 havers

not to mention the lack of atk pot

makes her atk 816

<900 atk on deploy

[lucid mirage]

Oh I meant +15% after pot.

at mod 3.

[full finch]

scam

surely the mod stats will be good too

+120 HP, +70 ATK, +40 DEF

[lucid mirage]

Maybe +60 atk and def instead?

Gotta keep it in line with the talent.

[full finch]

actually it should be pretty high

since gav stats are alr decent

[lucid mirage]

actually, which archtypes have a similar atk to centurions?

core casters?

[full finch]

arts guard

is fairly close in all stats

[lucid mirage]

Any archtypes with modules already? You can roughly guess from there I think.

[full finch]

or lord

lemme check chen module

[lucid mirage]

Splash casters are too high, core casters are too low, dualstrike guards also too low...

hmmmm splash snipers?

[full finch]

from what I'm seeing maybe ~150 HP, 80 ATK and 50 DEF?

some combo

[lucid mirage]

Nope splash snipers too high

Huh. actually nvm

splash casters look really similar.

[full finch]

[lucid mirage]

Wait I'm looking at stats without trust

[full finch]

wait a minute

actual ceobe L

[sly drift]

40+9+7 atk is 49
What is this

[full finch]

wait lmao

you're right

[lucid mirage]

GG gamepress

[full finch]

this is the module sheet

[lucid mirage]

GG aether

[full finch]

[foggy grove]

why gamepress

oh

[full finch]

gamepress has okay info but their site layout sucks ass

[lucid mirage]

Found it! Lee has exactly the same attack as gavialter

300 hp 74 atk

[full finch]

gavial has all 3 stats

[lucid mirage]

Yeap. Probably gonna drop hp to at most 200 I think

[full finch]

.

atk and def might be a bit lower

70/40 maybe

[halcyon fiber]

are the pro enhancement packs are worth buying

[full finch]

yes

they are probably the #1 thing to spend on

[lucid mirage]

Maybe 170 65 60?

[full finch]

besides skins that you want

[lucid mirage]

I think they'll give a relatively balanced atk and def cause of Gavialter's talent.

[full finch]

maybe

well, it's fine either way

more def is good

[halcyon fiber]

everyone is weirdly pro skins

[full finch]

most gacha games have their skins as cash only

[lucid mirage]

Yeap. Gavial defo lacking in def cause her skill doesn't amp it. Not like blaze s2.

[full finch]

arknights can be bought for free with ingame currency

[halcyon fiber]

I thought people would say to just get pulls instead

orundum

[full finch]

the conversion from is pretty bad

[lucid mirage]

5 OP for 1 pull is a scam.

[full finch]

33.3 is only 10 pulls

100 is 30 pulls

very scam

[lucid mirage]

Oh right 180×5 is 900.

10 Op for 3 pulls is still shit.

[weak gazelle]

yeah convertion are bad

[full finch]

whereas

you can get 2 skins with that

or over 4k sanity

[weak gazelle]

costume or sanity refill make more sense

[halcyon fiber]

wait then how do you get pulls ?

or like more pulls

[full finch]

annihilation

events

[halcyon fiber]

so like its encouraged that I spend my originite on sanity refills 🤔

[full finch]

not exactly

more specifically

it's what you value the most

pulls, skins, or sanity to farm materials

as long as you buy the pro enhancement packs first

[halcyon fiber]

rn I want sanity so I'll do that

[latent monolith]

Sanity is really bad early game

[halcyon fiber]

booo

[foggy grove]

it's just what you value more
like i'm picky with skins so i sometimes use it for pull

[latent monolith]

You get an amount of sanity equal to your cap, so early on with 90 cap it's pretty bad, later on with 120+ cap you get much more

[full finch]

at level 117, each is worth 135 sanity
compared to early game being with 90 or 100

[halcyon fiber]

ok nvm then.., I'll just save it for when I'm bored and wanna pull

or for a skin idk

[full finch]

pro enhancement packs have both pulls and materials

so they're worth it

[halcyon fiber]

I bought the ones I can

it's been like 3 days of no pulling this is terrible

[full finch]

gacha addiction intesifies

don't worry

tomorrow

you'll get 11 pulls for free

and 13 more in the next 2 weeks

• lots of

[halcyon fiber]

if I don't get chongyue in the free pulls I'll shoot myself

[full finch]

he's not worth that dw

[foggy grove]

heresy

[halcyon fiber]

I need new characters I'm so bored with the ones I have

[full finch]

fair

well you'll have new stuff to play with even if you get offbanners

[gleaming lodge]

Getting a 6* in the first 11 is very lucky

[ebon elk]

Have you gotten Kal to elite 1?

[halcyon fiber]

no

I ran out of sanity

I used a lot on the event

[tiny moat]

can we talk on how to strategize is here or no

[full finch]

yes lol

[tiny moat]

i was doing lapluma start. is it bad

[full finch]

in IS3?

use highmore instead

[tiny moat]

i know but cost efficiency shit

[full finch]

borrow

[ashen folio]

Best to bring a perfumer with you too

[tiny moat]

i didnt think of that actually
ill try to find someone with her

[full finch]

I'd lend but mine is p1

[tiny moat]

nah she could prolly sustain herself

[ashen folio]

Not always

[tiny moat]

i could make her e1 max. would she hold

[full finch]

just borrow

[tiny moat]

that means dont use her since the pressure is high eniugh fir her sustain to not be enough

[tiny moat]

i dont care abt using some mats on her. does she need e2 m3 to be functional?

[ashen folio]

I have a Highmore with S1M3 if you want to borrow it

[full finch]

yeah you want S1M3

[ashen folio]

It's easier to reach that point with Highmore because she has 3 block in IS3

[tiny moat]

hmmm. ill try that

[ashen folio]

The SP cost and extra ratios from M3 on her S1 helps with damage a lot

[tiny moat]

speaking of which i could e2 her right nos

[full finch]

just borrow

[turbid badge]

whes decent

[tiny moat]

sorry i think ill be stubborn
i dont have anyone particular in need of a prefarm so ill do it

[ashen folio]

If you don't plan on running her a lot , just borrow

Huh, ok

[tiny moat]

yea almost all my raised units have m3s already i could spare the materials for it

thank you for the concern

[scarlet fulcrum]

40+9+7=49 fr

[ebon elk]

Understandable, this game is not something you can/should play 24/7. There's a point where you have to put the game down for a while. Best get used to doing it in spurts.

[frigid kite]

4097 ✅

Gavial module seems juicy

I hope she becomes an attack stat stick any time soon

[halcyon fiber]

if I buy the monthly pass then I get sanity boosters everyday 🤔

why is it saying it's 6 euro when it says 4.99

[ebon elk]

4.99 is us dollar

[somber falcon]

Taxes, probably
Also yeah ^ currency conversion

[full finch]

alr is

[frigid kite]

Yes but not that high

[full finch]

max gavial has like 950 atk on deployment

[frigid kite]

I want

Biggee

[full finch]

and it's over 1k with talent

[frigid kite]

Number s

[full finch]

and it hits 3 targets

so like

[halcyon fiber]

wait apple prices are higher apparently ??

[full finch]

you don't even have to use skill

[frigid kite]

Red gavial numbers

Thank you

[full finch]

gavial offskill turning into unmodded blaze S2

shit will deal like 1400 damage to blocked

[scarlet fulcrum]

Imagine if balze mod goes to gavialter

[full finch]

doesn't need it

alr has atk talent and skills have good modifiers

S3 has ASPD

[scarlet fulcrum]

I dont need s3

[full finch]

bad player

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats me

[full finch]

also hard to proc module effect with S2

since S3 is basically designed to block everything

[frigid kite]

Yup

But Blaze module also looks nice

Permanent upgrades after some time deployed

Not bad

[full finch]

it's nice for blaze

gavial built different tho

[frigid kite]

Yeah

[scarlet fulcrum]

i will cope with gavialter 2nd mod

[frigid kite]

Only bad thing about 2nd mod is that

[full finch]

you realize

[frigid kite]

1st already gives the good buff

[full finch]

gav 2nd mod will be 20% DR and healing talent buff

[frigid kite]

10% more attack while blocked

[full finch]

well actually

that might be decent lol

tank gav

[frigid kite]

[scarlet fulcrum]

They didnt know

[frigid kite]

No way

Gavial skadi

I mean gladia

But we are talking too much about Gavial

How about executor

[full finch]

CN unit

[scarlet fulcrum]

well coping additional talent on her mod kinda i will just do 1st for pure stats

[ashen folio]

I read that the executor modules improves consistency so it makes his damage less backloaded

Who knows if that's truly the case tho

[frigid kite]

[ashen folio]

Meanwhile OG Specter getting another talent through her module

That's a W I'll be taking

[frigid kite]

Oh damn that's true

Another AH buff 💀

[full finch]

specter module is cringe and good

[ashen folio]

She's like one of the few 5*s with a second talent now

And I'm not counting the "if used in X stages" talents

[turbid badge]

I think his module will be Busted

[scarlet fulcrum]

HG simp AH lmao

[turbid badge]

like a spalter situation

[ashen folio]

Friendly reminder lowlight cosplayed Andreana once

[scarlet fulcrum]

heck yea thats it

[frigid kite]

Hmmm

Would be nice

I like a lot his design

[ashen folio]

Also, I just wanna say it seems like they're making a point by dropping the new module info on Specter's birthday

"this is my favorite" -HG, probably

[scarlet fulcrum]

bruh nothing better proof than that

[frigid kite]

Nah just wait until lord module

Thorns gives all lords +200% damage

[ashen folio]

Lol, nah. Wait for the arts fighter modules

[frigid kite]

And global attack

[ashen folio]

https://tenor.com/view/surtr-arknights-gif-22486225

[grand ginkgo]

new anni is far more insane than anni 3 huh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Far easier

[frigid kite]

Well you can clear both with Mlynar

[grand ginkgo]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Shrimple laning, shrimple wave

[frigid kite]

It gets kinda difficult, if you cant deal with the robots at 390 or so was it

[scarlet fulcrum]

nah

[frigid kite]

Its like a compressed 350 wave

[grand ginkgo]

I guess i will put reed bottom lane and basically full focus on main thing
i tend to get overrun as soon as robots start though

[frigid kite]

Borrowing Mlynar would be better

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u know the broom robot mechanic its more shrimple than u think

[frigid kite]

But what if you cant outheal the robots

[scarlet fulcrum]

u cant? Is this e0 run?

[grand ginkgo]

i can outheal a bit i just cant kill them fast enough
will try mlynar a bit later i guess

i still very much lack damage though, feeling that really hard

will prob 55 ansel too

[frigid kite]

You are right, i only used Reed as a healer, but with Mlynar killing them, i'm taking it as a <not using Mlynar> situation

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is ur nearl sL7?

[grand ginkgo]

4
and i usually use her bottom lane

because chip damage from engineers or whatever

[scarlet fulcrum]

7 will gain 2nd charge

[grand ginkgo]

okay she's 7 now

[high crest]

Is amiya guard good for laneholdig in bottom lane for that anni?

[halcyon fiber]

is it okay to use the sanity boosters from the monthly pack on farming, or should I save it for the event

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can try with mlynar like other said indeed. Nothing can go wrong with him

[high crest]

Ok

[frigid kite]

Yes but with other op or she will leak later

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can use it to farm yea, they will give u each day anyway

[high crest]

Who should be good for bottom?

[frigid kite]

If you have Kalsit, Monster solo it

With S2

[high crest]

Ok 👌, is skill level 7 enough?

[grand ginkgo]

wait she has a self heal?

[high crest]

No

I'll raise kaltsit later then

[fiery marsh]

Any ideas for 10-16 without support?

[frigid kite]

Team

[fiery marsh]

I already know i should e2 pozy, but low on rocks

[frigid kite]

Do this, Penance replacing Mountain 1 tile up

And just try to keep her S3 everytime up so she is able to tank the cannon

[fiery marsh]

Elemental damage is a thing too, but i Will try

[frigid kite]

Btw

See Goldenglow, use Ifrit looking right

[somber falcon]

why are you telling him to place ops near penance when she's gonna tank cannon?

[fiery marsh]

Bait with tank no?

Like beagle is doing

The problem Will be If penance is with reborns

[somber falcon]

in that case, why need one tile up and not just on mountain's position?
that's just exposing her to needless cannon dmg

[fiery marsh]

I would actually do that

Just dont talked

But I dont know If penance s3 will pick the cannon agro

[somber falcon]

it will

[fiery marsh]

Ah

[somber falcon]

unless beagle is getting extra block

but then that's risking her dying before cannon goes off

[light flame]

it just targets highest blocks, with later deployment if tied

[fiery marsh]

So isnt afected by higher priority agro like penance's s3?

[light flame]

no, taunt doesn't affect cannon (e.g. if you put mlynar he won't take the cannon)

[cosmic dagger]

Cannon does get affected by taunt

For example, let's say you put mlynar then some arbitrary 3 block, then activate mlynar skill

Cannon will target mlynar instead of the later deployed 3 block

It doesn't normally target mlynar since he's 0 block

Which might be what confused you

[fiery marsh]

So the Canonn follows that:

1. Highest block
2. Taunt
3. Delpoyment order

[light flame]

"taunt doesn't override block count" might have been a better wording then

[fiery marsh]

Certanly is better saying this way

Thanks

So probally using s3 will be hard...

[somber falcon]

you can use her s2 instead

[fiery marsh]

I dont think she can kill the tougher guys with It thought

But i will test too

[halcyon fiber]

i tried to put her where i think that is but she didnt cover enough area

[scarlet fulcrum]

where

show map

[halcyon fiber]

at the top near the stairs

i put her beside the stairs up at the top

facing down

[scarlet fulcrum]

that is not anni1

[halcyon fiber]

?

[scarlet fulcrum]

That one anni 17

[halcyon fiber]

oh

[latent monolith]

This applies to every skill, both friendly and otherwise, if they have a special targeting taunt will not override it

[halcyon fiber]

whihc is 1

[scarlet fulcrum]

Chernobog

Outskirts

[fiery marsh]

Penance keeps dying because necrosis damage dont let her charge her skill

I Will try face tanking the cannon with her

[scarlet fulcrum]

After u enter circle on map, there will be button on bottom right, u can choose there

[halcyon fiber]

i see one called chernobog

but it doesnt say outskirts with it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Well thats probably it

Most top on list

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah that one

[cosmic thicket]

iirc lungmen outskirts unlocks after you beat chernobog with 400 kills? either way finish 400 kill chernobog first

[halcyon fiber]

and shell go in-between at the top on the left ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Horn there. Even e0 will do. Cheese top right with shaw s1L4+blocker, and some arts later. Idk ur squad but this one brainded way

[halcyon fiber]

kk

[scarlet fulcrum]

Should be doable with ur own squad

[halcyon fiber]

how will shaw push them into that hole, where would i put her ?

wait

the hole are behimnd

nvm

[scarlet fulcrum]

In ranged tile facing up

Yes

👍make sure aggro properly

[halcyon fiber]

yes so place blocker last ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

💯

Add st arts like steward behind shaw. Else ur blocker wont survive at beeg dude wave. Assuming lv very low

[halcyon fiber]

what if i put a healer or smthn

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah ofc, but assuming ur lv very low. They still wont survive

[halcyon fiber]

my beagle is e1 lvl 40 is that enough ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

There are 2 specific wave iirc. U can retreat arts after that

More than enough

[halcyon fiber]

cool

[scarlet fulcrum]

Or i will say that one on high lv side for this anni

[halcyon fiber]

theres more ?

i thought horn,shaw,blocker,steward and thats it for thr 400 ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Total 3 perma map

Oh u mean that

And kroos for drone

And some dps to help her for CS later

[halcyon fiber]

kk

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mini boss

[halcyon fiber]

my e1 kal can do the dps 😏

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bruh u have e1 kal

u can forget horn, but like just try with her first

[halcyon fiber]

im in the middle of it with her

[scarlet fulcrum]

Since its sleep strat

Yeah ik the feel

[halcyon fiber]

i wish i had these 6 stars, horn and blaze have been so helpful

[scarlet fulcrum]

For cheesing early chapter pluma also good

[halcyon fiber]

i also have her levelled

i havent done story in a while

im on 2-10 i think

[scarlet fulcrum]

Pluma or plume?

[halcyon fiber]

everytime someone says pluma i think of lava idk why

i dont have pluma levlled

idk who pluma is

[scarlet fulcrum]

Well u are lucky indeed, she s 5* right? Just want to make sure

Thats plume

[high crest]

It's la pluma she is a reaper guard

[halcyon fiber]

yeh i dont own pluma

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just ignore plume

unless 200 orundumb

She s cheap but thats it

[halcyon fiber]

i probably could do this withouth horn

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah u have kal all of ppl

[halcyon fiber]

shes only level 55

i ran out of xp

[scarlet fulcrum]

Since ur main squad done, might as well focus on base next

[halcyon fiber]

are they ?

shining isnt e1 yet

[scarlet fulcrum]

E1 40 enough for early squad

[halcyon fiber]

ill get shining to e1 40 then base

i guess

[scarlet fulcrum]

Uh sure ig, tho cheaper option exist for early but whynot. Dont invest beyond that for her tho. Very low af priority

ok gtg gl

[halcyon fiber]

kk bye bye

[zenith pumice]

hello, what stat upgrade should i take in IS2?

[cosmic thicket]

Just get all of them

[soft crystal]

Focus on getting originium shard upgrades first but youll need to get all of them anyways to get to the next tiers

[zenith pumice]

ooh ook thankies

[halcyon fiber]

is it worth it to convert one type of chip into another

[lofty thicket]

No, unless you use NCD to guarantee a byproduct

[halcyon fiber]

what is ncd

[fluid sail]

nine colored deer, she has a base skill that can guarantee byproducts after a certain amount of morale spent

she’s good in base & useless everywhere else

[lofty thicket]

And even if you were to use her for that it would take ages to convert chips one by one

Best to just not touch them in the workshop

[ebon elk]

Would it get you e1 kal?

[halcyon fiber]

kal arealdy e1

i want e1 shining out the way

so i can go back to doing the story

gummy e1 looks kinda good

[ebon elk]

She is

[halcyon fiber]

ill e1 gummy and then just keep farming for medic chips

[ebon elk]

Would be a probably be a better use of the defender chips than shining.

Even if she can't heal monster.

[halcyon fiber]

perfumer and nearl ? are they both worth getting to e1 aswell

and may

[ebon elk]

Yes to both, perfumer may be better than shining cause her passive heals all units over time.

Nearl is just better gummy*

[halcyon fiber]

what about may

and gitano to replace lava

[ebon elk]

May, may be the best 4star sniper, mostly cause her skills help with slowing enemies even into the late game.

I could be wrong though

[cyan gorge]

She is the best 4* sniper

[ebon elk]

Gitano is kinda iffy over Lava

[halcyon fiber]

calm, just may,nearl and perfumer

[quick pecan]

no gitano or lava just use pinecone

[ebon elk]

I won't argue

[halcyon fiber]

is courier i a good replacement for fang ? or do i use both

or courier and vigna

[cyan gorge]

Pinecone good
totally not biased

[quick pecan]

pinecone is just good value for a new account

[halcyon fiber]

idk who that is and i dont think i own them

[quick pecan]

they’re a 4* spreadshooter sniper. basically fills same niche of aoe caster but spreadshooter hits in a true aoe and gets 1.5x damage in the row in front of them.

and pinecone sees more longevity than most aoe casters

[halcyon fiber]

i dont own her unfortunately

[cyan gorge]

[quick pecan]

[ebon elk]

Main thing is that AoE casters kinda just start losing their value deeper into the game so Lava isn't a huge investment and does good enough compared to investing into Gitano.

[halcyon fiber]

ok yeh i wont level her then

about the dp recovery people tho ?

and does amiya replace steward

[cyan gorge]

You really only need 3 vgs to breeze through the story, 2 that can block and maybe a flag

[glass monolith]

Steward has unique talent to attack highest DEF enemy in range

[light flame]

damage-wise yes, but steward's targeting is useful in places for elite enemies

[halcyon fiber]

i dont have him at lvl 55 but i will get him there then to unlock the talent

[foggy grove]

dmg wise she barely outdmg

amiya pre e2 is kinda sad

[glass monolith]

And Amiya E2 is killer of rocks

[halcyon fiber]

ok but fang, courier and vigna

whats going on there

[cyan gorge]

That’s fine for now

[halcyon fiber]

i dont have vigna or courier levlled

i wanna know who to bring

or puzzle ❓

[cyan gorge]

Literally any pioneer on s1 is enough dp pre chapter 7

[halcyon fiber]

so puzzle :))

[soft crystal]

Puzzle is actually fine early on tbh but hes not 2 block

[ashen folio]

Puzzle is an agent, not a pioneer so he may struggle on the stages where they rush you at the start

[halcyon fiber]

so no puzzle then 😦

damn

[cyan gorge]

No one said he was bad

lol

[ashen folio]

Nah, puzzle is fine. You just have to use him differently

And know when and where to use him

[halcyon fiber]

i am not made of xp im tryna maximize effiecney while minizmizing costs

ill bring courier who can be used everywhere

even though puzzle is hotter :(((((

[soft crystal]

You can make puzzle work early on

[ashen folio]

Puzzle is an agent so he should make dp faster than pioneers , so it can work

[halcyon fiber]

on a scale of 1/10 how much more effort is using puzzle

[ashen folio]

Just use puzzle imo. Arknights is a game that accommodates playing favorites if you are willing to play around them

[halcyon fiber]

puzzle it is then

[cyan gorge]

Courier and Fang are enough for where you are right now, then look into more vgs like Puzzle and Myrtle when they aren’t enough anymore

[ashen folio]

3/10, basically drop and forget or drop, assassinate and retreat

[halcyon fiber]

ight so on the e1 list is, may,perfumer and nearl and to level up is puzzle and steward

great 👍

yay or nay ?

[cosmic thicket]

Use kal s2

If you have myrtle she is generally preferred over puzzle

[halcyon fiber]

oh shoot its not on

[cosmic thicket]

Gummy s1 is a lot easier to use bc s2 requires some timing

[halcyon fiber]

i dont own her

[halcyon fiber]

ok is nearl s2 better in egenral or the same case ?

[cosmic thicket]

I prefer s1 because less management

[halcyon fiber]

would beagle be better than either of them ?

im leaning towards no cause they heal themselves

[ashen folio]

S1 is better because it has a short downtime. S2 is a long period of healing with an even longer period of no healing

[halcyon fiber]

good point

[quick pecan]

beagle is a protector defender so she will reach higher def values than nearl and gummy due to her archetype

healing defenders trade lower def for healing and some res

that being said it would be better to raise cuora than beagle

[halcyon fiber]

what if i took liskram out the box ?

i have a pack that lets me choose between: silence, projekt red, liskarm and pramanix

which i havent used

wait nvm shes a defense dps apprently

[craggy helm]

Liskarm is questionable because 5* costs. Decent unit, sp battery, and tied for the highest drone rate in base. Not a bad unit but it's unlikely you'll ever use again as soon as you get a good 6* defender.

I definitely wouldn't prioritize it, and none of the ops in that selector are "can't live without em" status

[halcyon fiber]

thats why i still havent opened it

[ashen folio]

Take project red tbh

Liskarm and Pramanix are situational.

I think you have shining or someone like that, so silence is redundant for the most part.

Project red however has a utility that isn't really beat by most characters until Texas alter was released

Point is, Red gives on demand stuns for high priority enemies

[halcyon fiber]

will she be useful for me rn ?

[ashen folio]

Uh, maybe when she's E1

Her S1 is gimmicky

Her S2 is the drop and pop stun

[glass monolith]

There will be annoying caster which stuns operator. But then... Gravel exists

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829111228286763015/968816016203321364/bait.gif

[tropic valve]

I would suggest either Liskarm or Red, Liskarm's battery mechanic is very unique, and Red synergizes well with stun relics in IS3

[foggy grove]

anything but pramanix is a solid pick

[grand ginkgo]

Decided to play even tho i didnt kill 2 robots above (low damage)
I get wiped on the bottom, cutter dies to blobs of cum/ansel gets overwhelmed by engineers + blobs

ill just hold off on this one because it sucks to play probably

if i had an arts guard would've been easier probably

[loud hawk]

Just use mudrock and a good caster

[grand ginkgo]

well thats for sure a good strategy

too bad i cant

[cosmic thicket]

fun fact: you are allowed to actually let the robots at the bottom absorb the blobs and let them leak, it counts as killing the blob even though you deduct life points

only kills matter

[loud hawk]

Very fun fact, appreciate it

[cosmic thicket]

you can't leak blobs but you can leak blobs that activate robots

[grand ginkgo]

yeah but i would die to big robot at the end
because cutter still deals physical

[cosmic thicket]

yeah

although maybe s1 has high enough multipliers to actually do a bit of damage

[loud hawk]

You have amiya, try her guard version

[grand ginkgo]

sucks to suck, if i dont pull an arts guard in these 24 free pulls it'll be Guardmiya rush mode

[cosmic thicket]

is ur s1 at skill level 7

[grand ginkgo]

bro if i had her i would use her

[loud hawk]

Fair

[grand ginkgo]

it deals half blobs health at best
would tickle the robot

[loud hawk]

Can you show your upgraded ops?

[cosmic thicket]

guh

[grand ginkgo]

[loud hawk]

Okay, maybe too early

[cosmic thicket]

e2 max cutter with s1m3 and mod3 is able to do roughly 3.5k damage every skill activation to the robots so

[grand ginkgo]

just need 1 role filled in tbh
sucks so much to be honest, a lot of struggle because i literally have 0 of (certain thing), even something suboptimal would do
though i dont think there are many arts guards

[cosmic thicket]

although e2 max is a bit expensive now

[grand ginkgo]

mousse is the only one 4* right

[loud hawk]

There is an arts guard for Darknights record restorarion

[ashen folio]

Afaik, yeah...?

[cosmic thicket]

mousse is preferable though

and yes she is the only 4* arts guard

[grand ginkgo]

ill check

[ashen folio]

Talking about Sideroca?

[loud hawk]

Yes

[cosmic thicket]

the issue is that sideroca is more self-sustain based and not dps

her s1 is a regen hp skill like matoi s1/cardigan skill and her s2 restricts her range to just the tile she's on

this does have its applications but this is not one of them

[grand ginkgo]

tbh as long as she kills fast enough for blobs to be able to be blocked
her s2 does give attack i see

[loud hawk]

S2 not a problem when a fat foe is already on her toes

[gentle finch]

he's trying rotating anni?

[cosmic thicket]

ye

[loud hawk]

ye

[grand ginkgo]

anni 3 was pretty ass but i managed
this one kinda bends me over

[gentle finch]

gonna be a rough mald if you insist on doing it now

[cosmic thicket]

yeah DV enemies are not new player friendly

[gentle finch]

i hate malding annis

[loud hawk]

So you have beaten all three permanent sites?

[grand ginkgo]

annis just suck to play, they're too long

[ashen folio]

Ikr, fuck those rocket launcher mechas

[grand ginkgo]

yes

[loud hawk]

With this squad I think it's very cool

[grand ginkgo]

anni 2 myself, anni 3 with borrow (100% carried keklmao)

reed s2 strong i do funny nuke and make 2 melee units invincible

[gentle finch]

E1 reed still goated

who was your newbie banner 6*

[grand ginkgo]

ange

i rerolled for reed + good starter and got ange 3 times

[cosmic thicket]

actually i don't think ange is that horrible here since she is arts damage

if you're strapped for a caster ange s1 exists

[grand ginkgo]

i dont think i can craft t3 chips

for e1

[cosmic thicket]

you don't need to craft chips for e1 though

they're just basic supporter chips

[grand ginkgo]

oh i forgot

yeah

[cosmic thicket]

dualchips are for e2

[grand ginkgo]

maybe maybe

[loud hawk]

I frogot, are t2 chips used for anything but t3 crafting?

[grand ginkgo]

for e1 of 5 and 6 stars

[cosmic thicket]

promote 4*

4* don't need dualchips

[loud hawk]

Ah

[grand ginkgo]

t2 chips arent dualchips tho

[cosmic thicket]

you farm "chip packs" from the stages

and then you craft dualchips from chip packs + chip catalysts

[grand ginkgo]

yes

[cosmic thicket]

5* and 6* need dualchips but 4* don't

[loud hawk]

t1 - from first level. t2 - from second level. t3 - t2 refined in factory.

[cosmic thicket]

pretty cool imo

[grand ginkgo]

t1 chips is the first chip stage
t2 is from 2nd level
t3 are dualchips

yes

[grand ginkgo]

so...?

[loud hawk]

I like how this conversation goes nowhere

[cosmic thicket]

they forgor about 4* not requiring dualchips i think

no conflict

[loud hawk]

?...os

[grand ginkgo]

????

where did you get that from

[loud hawk]

Get waht?

[cosmic thicket]

like they were asking "do you use chip packs for anything other than crafting dualchips"

which the answer is yes you need them to e2 a 4*

[loud hawk]

This is what I asked

[grand ginkgo]

im brainlagging so hard

i though e1 of 5 and 6

needs t2

[loud hawk]

Same

[cosmic thicket]

no lol

[loud hawk]

You completed second stage for defenders?

[grand ginkgo]

i forgot i used my weekly sidestory unlock

[gentle finch]

angelina pallas was my start

[primal nacelle]

How do I stop by bottom lane sniper getting taken out by the arts drones in anni3? The fact that they fire on her twice before she’s able to kill them, plus the crossbow shot, is basically guaranteed dead if SA doesn’t pop his S3 to help cover the airspace.

I’m using a meteorite with over 1200 hp, so I don’t understand what else I’m really supposed to do here. It’s super frustrating because it destroys the deployment order and makes all the future snipers mega vulnerable

[cyan gorge]

Put a blocker to the right to bait

[ebon elk]

Who's the ground unit on the bottome lane?

[primal nacelle]

Shaw to hold the bottom lane

[cyan gorge]

Also you want a marksman sniper in that spot rather than Meteorite

[primal nacelle]

By that point I’ve usually deployed everyone, but I’ll see if I can rotate SA out to bait them in the meantime before putting him back before 350

[primal nacelle]

Gotchu, I’ll swap her with the platinum uptop

Thanks guys

[tidal sedge]

Plat is amazing on that tile

[primal nacelle]

Also, should my better aoe healer be uptop or on the bottom?

Using ptil and perfumer

[latent anvil]

I remember using aoe heal for bot and normal medic top

So ptilo bot

[junior olive]

Can i do this anihilation with these units? Also what are these robots in the map? My units keep atacking then instead of the other enemies

[foggy grove]

You are kinda underleveled

[junior olive]

Oh ok

Then should i do the other anihiliation thats is easier for the oriundum?

[foggy grove]

do anni 2 for your orundum farm

[junior olive]

Alright, ty

[halcyon fiber]

if your recruit tags don't guarantee a 4-5 star do you still do 7:40 ?

[foggy grove]

you can try to go as far as you can on that map btw to raise the weekly cap

[halcyon fiber]

does increased time change anything ?, like increase the chance of a higher rarity recruit

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just go tagless 7:40 in that case, 9:00 only when u have good combi (or 3:50 if robot). It will lower the chance the said tags crossed

[halcyon fiber]

what does going tagless do tho ?

does that reopen the chance for a 6 star ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cheaper lmd, also exclude 2* from result

7:40 is

[halcyon fiber]

I had tags that only had a chance for 1 3 star 1 4 star and 2 5 stars

is that a good combo

or still not good enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nah thats coping

U will most likely get 3* in result

[halcyon fiber]

why go 3:50 for the robot

why do you want a robot

[scarlet fulcrum]

The highest possible time to get 1*

[halcyon fiber]

what's so good about 1 stars

[scarlet fulcrum]

There are robot tags, usually first priority castle for base, the rest purely just for collection i often cope with thrm ex tho

[halcyon fiber]

ok

[quick pecan]

some of them have good base skills

[scarlet fulcrum]

only 1

castle

[quick pecan]

thrm-ex nice if ur lazy

[scarlet fulcrum]

well more like qol ig

[cyan gorge]

The cool thing about 1*s is that they ignore deployment limit

They aren’t all that strong but provide unique buffs

[scarlet fulcrum]

provide unique copium, the exact word

thats me

[glass monolith]

Hey, don't forget DH-9 42 second auto copium

[scarlet fulcrum]

thats it, speedruner be like

atleast the biggest problem was my potato phone

[glass monolith]

Correction, DH-9 speedrun is 43.1. My personal auto was 47 because i used Weedy to make boss fall into water each time

[scarlet fulcrum]

Loading screen be like

[glass monolith]

Who cares about those. Not like i am one of guys who do 1-7 250 times per week

[scarlet fulcrum]

There are difference, depends on how good ur device is

[glass monolith]

i don't care for load times, i care for period of DP start regenning to enemy stop breathing

[scarlet fulcrum]

lmao they didnt know how bad it is at worst shit

[halcyon fiber]

what a coincidence I just got the tags for guaranteed Myrtle, can't believe I wasted XP on puzzle 😭

[lethal dragon]

How much did you waste

[halcyon fiber]

waste is an exaggeration , but I wish I didn't use so much on him

I just got him to lvl 50

which may seem small to you but to me it's a decent amount 😭

[lethal dragon]

Ah don't worry then

[glass monolith]

e0 50 is pocket charge in late

And we in like 19.5 hours already having another event with another shop

[lethal dragon]

Not even late
It is too cheap to care about
Just don't let it stack

[halcyon fiber]

I can't wait ,

I'm gonna try get to the ex stages this time

[glass monolith]

With next daily reset Podenco murders Nightmare makes Healing + Supporter/Slow the 4* combo

Wait.... NEXT EVENT DON'T HAVE S STAGES?

[scarlet fulcrum]

bro this one is cny

[cyan gorge]

Has there ever been S stages in a CNY event?

[glass monolith]

Like i do recall?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nope

[glass monolith]

Fuck that, i need my for all those upcoming skins

[lethal dragon]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1132578444413247549.png?size=160

[glass monolith]

Well tell google pay to unban Russia, because right now i am forced to f2p

[ashen folio]

Whelp, how much skins are you even trying to buy anyways?

[glass monolith]

I still remember ending of video where she vanished with every food present

[turbid badge]

minus poor

[glass monolith]

Out of ones i remember it will be L2D Chen alter, L2D Pozyomka and Cantabile

[ashen folio]

That's a pretty sum assuming it's the minimum amount of skins you're getting

[turbid badge]

how much u have

[glass monolith]

Oh and Kroos alter skin

[turbid badge]

i want alot of skins but my 51 op dhould be wnougj

[ashen folio]

I thought kroos alter skin was a freebie? Or was that blacknight?

[turbid badge]

BN

from TN

#2

[ashen folio]

🤷‍♂️whelp, I thought ItW rerun had a free BN skin but I guess I remembered wrong

Damn, so people gotta pay for kroos alter skin?

[surreal star]

skins for welfares have always been that way

[halcyon fiber]

would pulling for poz be okay ?, idk why I just kinda got Kal and assumed that was it

but why not have both 😊

[high crest]

Don't pull mate if you have kaltsit now

[halcyon fiber]

whyyyy

[high crest]

The chance of you getting pozy is pretty low and there is some limited character that will appear in future and she is very good

[glass monolith]

Don't CN get hyper stacked JO next? Lee, Penance, Mlynar, Pozy

[halcyon fiber]

fine 😭

[high crest]

And there is also yato alter who will most likely not appear again and she is a pretty strong character

[halcyon fiber]

how long till that ?

I know chongyue is tmrw, but apparently he's not that great

so whens the next banner that's a must pull

[glass monolith]

Yato alter wll be on collab which should be before November as around November will be Mumu banner

[halcyon fiber]

November 😃

[high crest]

Umm it's like around in September I guess

[glass monolith]

before November

[halcyon fiber]

is getting a free 10 pull on banners a normal thing

like for chongyues

[high crest]

It's pretty normal in limited banners, no free pulls though on standard

[halcyon fiber]

so poz is gonna be on standard ?

[glass monolith]

She already in standard

[high crest]

Yeah

[halcyon fiber]

and kal

oh

[glass monolith]

Just no rate ups

[high crest]

She is already and kal too

There banner is a standard banner

[halcyon fiber]

how many standard banners are there

[high crest]

It's a normal banner and it rotates 2 6 stars like 2 weeks I guess

[glass monolith]

Yes
We don't have "Standard-Standard" banner like some games. We have this banner which changes rate ups every 2 weeks on Friday

Every operator who is not marked with Limited on Limited event banners join in. Very soon we will have update which splits Year 1 operators from rest in separated banners. That's how banners looked on CN when it happened

[full finch]

isn't it basically
year 0 units and then everyone else

[glass monolith]

Year 1 operators will be in "blue" standard banner (gives blue certs) and it is really not worth to pull them because you can jsut cope for Recruitment top tag or buy them for gold certs (Rate ups of blue banner will be in gold cert shop as well)

[full finch]

it's year 0

check the skin listings ingame

[grand ginkgo]

is old banner cheaper?
or are gold cert old units also 180 / 600 orundum

[glass monolith]

Fuck HG and their use of RoundDown function

[full finch]

HG logic is something else

[glass monolith]

Old banner is as much to pull, and it will take as much time to assemble enough certs to get blue cert shop copy of rate up operator, like srly horrible banner to pull at because you don't get gold certs when pulling

[high crest]

There will be also an update that will a banner of old ops till phantom, to new 6 star banner ops after phantom

[full finch]

example of HG logic

[glass monolith]

I posted my meme image of how those banners looked on CN when it happened

[full finch]

because when counting to 4, we also count 0

[glass monolith]

It will be funny if Yostar exchange Weedy and Phantom due their swapped release order

[grand ginkgo]

thats not logic thats just "mobile game quality" implementation no one except .1% players know or care about

[glass monolith]

Just imagine it: CN beginners banner v2.0: Weedy
EN beginners banner v2.0: Phantom

[high crest]

Damn it, if that happen

[full finch]

normal personal logic is different

[halcyon fiber]

and the other banner is just the anniversary banner ?, and when it's gone it won't be replaced by anything ?

[grand ginkgo]

Doing it properly and thoroughly and making sure there are 0 mistakes is not normal person logic

Its just best case scenario

[glass monolith]

It is like new year banner or something but because we copy CN server with delay we have this banner in middle of nowhere

[grand ginkgo]

shits off by 1 frame man

[full finch]

???

normally you wouldn't even have that kind of problem

HG code is 🍝

[high crest]

And the chongus event is rushed yeah

[grand ginkgo]

well thats another question most old game code is spaghetti af

[full finch]

"it's not a bug, it's a feature"

[high crest]

Our schedule for upcoming banners is pretty much fucked

[glass monolith]

"How much Else-If that code has?"

[grand ginkgo]

which one is better

[grand ginkgo]

Well i know ONE guy---- thats not a good channel for this

[glass monolith]

Well people put Phantom to trash can after release of Texas alter and Yato alter carries the lid.
Weedy put half of stage into hole

Sometimes including event bosses

[grand ginkgo]

[glass monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvGwj3rNkDo

[full finch]

NL-S-4

[grand ginkgo]

pepela for sure

[full finch]

I think I have the infographic for dumping blood knight in the hole

[glass monolith]

That's how i did stage on rerun in nutshell.
And if you ask how much sanity i wasted on original run: YES

[full finch]

boss too fat

[glass monolith]

Bloodknight put into hole. IS3 bosses of ending 1/3/4 as well as pathshaper in floor 3 put into hole. CC12 boss put into another edge of stage

[grand ginkgo]

is there any document that reviews all welfare/free story units

i might need to take a look after pulls tomorrow

[full finch]

most aren't worth mentioning

in a general sense anyway

[glass monolith]

Review like give opinion on their strenghts and weaknesses?
DH event restore - Tequila.
UT event restore - Gladiia
SN event rerun - Lumen.
And IW event rerun - Kroos alter if you missing Exu

[full finch]

pretty much the only notable ones

[glass monolith]

And Tequila is mostly used for base combo

[grand ginkgo]

well they might not be in a grand scheme of things
but if i need like a role filled in and i literally dont own a single unit of that subclass

anything goes as beggars cant be choosers

[full finch]

not really

[tropic valve]

Tequila isn't just good in base, he's a solid Guard in IS3

[full finch]

sometimes you're better off coping with other units that trying to shoehorn a bad one in

[grand ginkgo]

well ig it would depend on severity of situation

i dont doubt i can fit square in a circle for a while in main story

[glass monolith]

Majority of right now available restored operators are meeeeeh. Issue of being 2 years old in games where content power creeps both in operator strengths and event complexity

[grand ginkgo]

for how long tho

man i want lava alter and i was told i cant get it yet

[glass monolith]

Restore in month or 2

[high crest]

Lava alter is bad...

[glass monolith]

Because it is CNY from 2 years ago, Kroos alter will be on rerun of CNY from 1 year ago, and right now we will have CNY of this year with free operator i didn't paid much attention at all

[grand ginkgo]

so kroos alter is soon too (rerun)?

[full finch]

lava isn't all that bad, at least within her subgroup

she's at least as good as leonhardt

it's more that the splash caster archetype sucks

[grand ginkgo]

i think ive got a thing for ops that make fireballs cycle around operators

[solid dew]

i just realised i dont have a single ranged aoe built
should probably get to that for when ITW anni comes knocking soon

[full finch]

but lava has both tick based damage, and deals AoE damage instead of splash

[high crest]

Mate aoes is isn't that good of an archetype except for I guess ifrit

[full finch]

plus it's helidrop

[solid dew]

i mean what are we counting as "AOE" cause i have archetto and that 5* welfare chain caster built, but thats about it (when i say built i mean E1 max)

[grand ginkgo]

I like lava
so ill prb use her
its that shrimple

[high crest]

Aoes casters I'm saying like I guess splash

[gentle finch]

dusk

[full finch]

dusk S2 is tile-based AoE and not Splash

[solid dew]

pulling for dusk because i have no aoe casters (real)

[fiery marsh]

Me who uses catapult and base lava: 💀

[glass monolith]

No exact dates but it very likely to be event after next which ends at 11th August, then potential dead week, then IW rerun

[grand ginkgo]

[full finch]

splash damage as a mechanic is problematic because it's usually too small

[high crest]

But I guess you do you, this is a single player game for a reason

[gentle finch]

no

[full finch]

most of the good "aoe" skills are either tile-based, multitarget, or have expanded radius

[glass monolith]

Virgin Splash caster: barely hit enemies in 1 tiles around main target
Chad Chain caster: fucking chained for 6 tiles away

[high crest]

Yeaah

[sour mantle]

Aoe casters are not necessary, kinda bad archetype in itself.

[fiery marsh]

The only aoe ranged unit that i actually upgrated with dedication is Ifrit, but she is broken

[solid dew]

[fiery marsh]

I dont see the reason to have another in fact

[full finch]

the only reason ifrit is relevent is because her kit is completely overloaded

[high crest]

I only know like good is ifrit but I guess she is that good huh

[full finch]

you can see how big a difference there is when compared to corroserum

[scarlet fulcrum]

The reason her mod kinda uh

[fiery marsh]

Mostly because of her absurd res shred

[glass monolith]

My main casters are Goldenglow because THANKS NAMIE, and Astgenne (who is decent Free operator too but she is like more than half year away from rerun) as chain caster

[solid dew]

i need to make a list of ops i want/need to build lmao
ifrit would probably be somewhere up there...

[gentle finch]

I barely use her nowadays but she is still very useful

ifrit

[full finch]

not just res shred
her skills deal excellent damage too

[fiery marsh]

Yeah

Is because of like, aoe dpser and debuffer in one pack

What more you would want?

[gentle finch]

my only caster class operator I use is goldenglow and astgenne as well

[high crest]

And aoe casters attacks is slow

[gentle finch]

ok bad English

I won't even edit

but I also use dusk often

[full finch]

splash casters and blast casters have basically the same interval

[high crest]

Who is a blast caster that is not ifrit?

[gentle finch]

corroserum

[full finch]

but ifrit deals so much more damage because of res shred, and that her skills just do more damage

[gentle finch]

fr

sometimes I forget my Ifrit isn't M3 cuz even M1 does a lot

[glass monolith]

I have corroserum but i pretend i don't

[gentle finch]

on S2

[fiery marsh]

Haha yeah, she boosts the damage of the team and herself

[high crest]

I use ifrit just slight and her damage is pretty nuts

[glass monolith]

Let her cook