strategy

[sharp wadi]

Depends what ops and what enemy to stall
Stall moderate mobs moutain
Stall without harming boss and live longer use gummy
Stall with damage go saria
SA kinda specific used has stronger stall I use him for tank bow before penance

[near folio]

SA S2 has good stalling but his use cases are very specific

[sly drift]

Only if we get defender ban risk iirc

[near folio]

Its like a weird middle ground where his sustain overpowers moderate enemies but folds against big hitters like Steam Knight

[sharp wadi]

People just underrated his S2, I've used it before except against hybrid between mobs and stall which cause leaking

[near folio]

Tbh Hellagur Mod 3 with S1 is kinda like a S2 Silverash

[sharp wadi]

Steam knight just cycle defender if you ops isn't name nian

[sly drift]

He blocks one unfortunately

[sharp wadi]

Leak

[near folio]

I stalled that mf for 23 mins

[near folio]

He does have higher damage

Especially if the mob can keep him around 50% hp then he gets the max aspd

[sharp wadi]

What your lvl cuora?

[near folio]

Lvl 50 to get the mod so she wont get one shotted even with skill up

You either mod her or M3 her S2

[sharp wadi]

Well so that's e2 right?

[near folio]

Yes

[sharp wadi]

Well with that so nothing surprised much just like I can aak everyone without nian or skalter

That's good idea

[glass monolith]

Same, except by stall was extra 5Head (60% damage reduction skadi)

[near folio]

I got shafted by stainless

Well at least they paid back my luck with Reedic in first 10 pull

[sonic willow]

just do 0iq nian afk stall

[tidal sedge]

On other thing... You would want Wandering Medics for Corrosion as well...

Permanent Stackable DEF Cut is annoying enough

But that fire + explosion thing, maybe Lumen + NG + Shining can survive it?

[latent monolith]

The fire + explosion is not an issue at all to tank for a lot of ops

Just need to not be in one shot range

[near folio]

Wandering medics can clean def cut?

[latent monolith]

For the flaming reeds/burn that's a bit over 1k hp

[scarlet fulcrum]

similiar with ch9 type

[near folio]

Except in ch9 the fireballs already do big aoe damage

So getting the burn proc at the same time is like taking double damage

[cosmic thicket]

liskarm shamare ptilopsis gang gang?

[tidal sedge]

No, they not clearing it but...

They prevent it from happening on your tank

If you aim for AFK Strat, Wandering Medics on BOTH Corrosion and "Seaborn Elemental damage" is essential...

[ruby burrow]

Is there a secret medal for SSS Emergency Mode?

[foggy grove]

nah

[frigid kite]

Wat realli

They made SSS funny?

No way

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is medal for emergency, its not colorful so i will not say secret. I will check my list ig

[foggy grove]

There is medal but it's not secret

[soft crystal]

This ah thingie for sss kinda funny

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah its not secret

I did it first try so i need to double check, well not colorful so obviously

[gentle finch]

I heard reed S3 fun in SSS

[foggy grove]

Jungle has morbion mobs

Go figure

[soft crystal]

Skadi duel

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O0wdiuiUjY

his pc is frozen for 1 minute

[pearl sentinel]

Any other ops that is viable for fc8 besides Kal? Cuora just dies instantly after the explosion

Or can I surtr my way through

[latent monolith]

Iirc cuora has low hp

You'll want someone with good hp/res rather than good def

What are your options

[pearl sentinel]

I think the gist of the strat is to stall till her shield is gone, kill her p1, stall again and bait her skill and then kill her p2 right?

[pearl sentinel]

For res defenders?

[latent monolith]

High HP ops in general

Mudrock can solo stall iirc

[pearl sentinel]

My next best is hoshi I guess but she has no res

Or prolly gummy

[latent monolith]

Hoshi probably has enough HP

Just be sure to not place her immediately next to your medic

Or to place any ranged ops next to any op that gets disarmed tbh

[pearl sentinel]

Tytyty imma try it

Any ops that are good in this stage for killing?

I'm gonna try loaning a silverash and using mlynar to burst it

[vernal lion]

just use huge HP op

even Matoimaru survived lol

[latent monolith]

Well maxed matoi has 5k hp

Actually prob more with mod

[rugged talon]

are there any units that make fc-8 easy?

[latent monolith]

Yeah my calculations were without module

[livid delta]

The more I play around with Mod3 Matoi the more I realize how insane it is she has so much hp

[lament thicket]

crusher guard without the 3 blocks

[dry stump]

is there any ops for fast clearin in FC-6?

[latent anvil]

im pretty sure the stage isnt killgate so just kill all enemies+the last enemy that spawns as fast as possible and ur fine

ling probably works

[dry stump]

no ling

[latent anvil]

i mean as long as you can nuke last wave its fast

mlynar, silverash, chen, irene, etc

[scarlet fulcrum]

as long as u can reveal any fast burst works for camp, chalter decent for it because burst and insta 2 hits for tokens

Well if u dont care with minimum ops just anything goes without reveal

[vernal lion]

pretty much Ling can solo FC-5, 7, and even 6 too lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

[elder flume]

Explosion radius is fixed

[tidal sedge]

Guys what do u think about this one

[vernal lion]

what "this one"

[tidal sedge]

U know look at help chat and u see a guy keep asking about how to kill Patriot and his op keep dying

[dry stump]

NO LING!

[tidal sedge]

Sutr dying, Penance got wiped, Monst3r died bruh

[vernal lion]

[dry stump]

wdym skill issue?

[tidal sedge]

Well look at help chat u know what I am talking about

[tidal sedge]

So there is a guy on help chat keep asking how to kill Patriot.

His Sutr, Penance and Monst3r keep dying.

[dry stump]

aight. before surtr i use amiya & silverash

[vernal lion]

I'm pretty sure you got Surtr banner before Patriot chapter

like 1.5 years ago

[tidal sedge]

But this guy keep letting his Sutr die

Penance got wiped and Monst3r killed

[vernal lion]

I just don't care if they understand what they are doing

[tidal sedge]

U might wanna flip table after u see this one.

[dry stump]

yeah. but i didn't get her on her banner

[vernal lion]

in #help , he just need to know how to kill Patriot
we #strategy think about planning base on his squad, not just talking

[tidal sedge]

Well the point is that even if u in this channel tried to help him he might not try it or start complain about it.

[vernal lion]

nope, I will never touch that channel ever again

[tidal sedge]

I didn’t touch it at that time I only helped summoning Fake Blemi a bit( Spectral asked me to do it though)

[vernal lion]

because too many opinions will rude my talent

[dry stump]

they afraid his opinion are wrong

[tidal sedge]

Yea

[sonic willow]

infected is a funny guy

bro is just unbelievably bad idk

[foggy grove]

bad is fine
not listening is

[heady hedge]

na

at this point im convinced his baiting

[gentle finch]

think

[lament thicket]

surtr it

[gentle finch]

I keep dying to eblana p2

[signal lichen]

are u trying to nuke her or trying to block her

u can stall her with any 2 medics + healing defender but make sure u do it inside of the mire

[gentle finch]

hm

defender on the mire or eb on the mire

[signal lichen]

both

u her attack speed to be lowered and u also don't want to be eatting burn damage

[gentle finch]

ok

I hope nearl, Warf and ptilo can tank

[signal lichen]

easily

[gentle finch]

oh ya

Shamare can help too

Originally I was trying to burst her

[signal lichen]

mudrock also can 1v1 her

[gentle finch]

I can't use 6*

[signal lichen]

then yeah nearl + your 2 medics is fine

[sonic willow]

use true damage

like amiya 💀

[turbid badge]

Use flamebringee

akafuyu e2 can hold left lane by herself

Btw

[gentle finch]

No the burst strat was working

[sonic willow]

hmm

[gentle finch]

I got her to half HP in like a second and then she disarmed

for p2

I think this stall strat will work though

[signal lichen]

it should be doable for you

boss might be tricky

holding the lanes on the sides however should not be much of a problem

[sonic willow]

possible

you're close to e2ing texas/chalter anyway 💀

why not just chill for a bit and do it when you can e2

[tidal sedge]

makes sense

[signal lichen]

that works if u wanna nuke

or u can try it now i would try another medic and a healing defender if u lack high level ones even cardigan should work maybe

[tidal sedge]

everyone you see is everyone I have lvled up, can't afford to lvl up anyone else. I mean I have Kross and Melantha and Vigna besides visible operatots but don't think they change much

I could always use friend's unit if this stage is not worth autoing

[signal lichen]

its not a farm stage so yeah u could

[vast rivet]

just borrow kal and use meltdown on boss thing

[frigid kite]

Yes

[gentle finch]

I gave up and rarity abused

sorry

I'll still try to clear with 5* though

[cosmic thicket]

do not make the same mistake as me trying to use shamare and liskarm to stall eblana

[gentle finch]

the first time I did some random bullshit and the stall worked

[turbid badge]

rarity abuse- AH

[gentle finch]

then when the run failed and I tried again

[turbid badge]

lolo

[gentle finch]

Nearl just died after a while

[turbid badge]

what lvl r ur 5* now

[gentle finch]

the team is all E2 60

but they don't have masteries or anything

[turbid badge]

if u have a akafuyu friend u can have her left and than judt unga bunga right

[gentle finch]

most of them at least

[turbid badge]

i think nr nothing can solo eblana with a healer

[gentle finch]

the lanes aren't problem

[turbid badge]

lol

[gentle finch]

!

[gentle finch]

indeed

Skadi surprised me

she soloed both phases

[turbid badge]

yea here

https://youtu.be/BYez8DT2arQ

me nothing

[turbid badge]

astegenne skin so pretty

[tidal sedge]

Any comments on the ban list

Is there someone more worth to ban inside

[main halo]

That's 7-18

[pallid veldt]

the ban list looks pretty standard to me tbh

other than highmore

which was probably just a target/meme ban

[main halo]

Surtr can kill Patriot with relative ease, Mlynar can clear mob, Texalter well there isn't need to say anything about her

[scarlet fulcrum]

Add Ban true dmg (inc mines), buff/debuff, token and module

[cosmic thicket]

Nearl alter over Highmore makes more sense imo

Hell pluma over Highmore too

[pallid veldt]

ye

a little surprised mud and penance werent banned but

whatever

you cant really ban all the laneholders anyways

[cosmic thicket]

They cost 36 no way picking them is optimal for speedrunning

[pallid veldt]

i mean if kal is there

also like

i dont think the speedruns are really that optimized

[cosmic thicket]

Like you want to cheap out on your laneholding as much as possible no? So you can spend your dp killing the boss asap

[pallid veldt]

they are kill gated anyways

and no one is banning flags

[cosmic thicket]

I guess

[gleaming lodge]

Mud S2 holds the entire map though

Apart from the Sarkaz claw dudes which you can bomb

[cosmic thicket]

Tbh if I was participating I'd probably ban bag just to get my opponents out of prep

[gleaming lodge]

lmao

If I were participating and they ban 5 defenders, I could just ban 5 more and would be the only one still with defenders

[tidal sedge]

Whoa... Ok...

[tidal sedge]

So Highmore is the only bad ban here???

[cosmic thicket]

Highmore is more memey than the rest

Pallas I'm also not quite sure

[cursive wedge]

penance ban

[fierce hawk]

Hi is highmore good?

Her kit is built around sustained solo laner right?

[cosmic thicket]

Good archetype but usually overshadowed by la pluma

IS3 is an exception

[turbid badge]

good butttt

pluma does her job better

dps wise

her elemental healing niche is kinda okay if its low elemental healing

too much nd its better to just not use her

[signal lichen]

oh where can i see this at

[vernal lion]

https://youtu.be/3OAEKrwgLS8

[west kraken]

https://youtu.be/rjfCiDtSsxQ

I had to use like...all my operator slots...

[pearl sentinel]

Do I need to pop the leader's shield with dmg or is it a timer based shield?

[foggy grove]

you can wait it out

timer based 60s

popping it with dmg is fine too

[turbid badge]

reed so op

its like amiya for my second cc rotation

and i can double trust her with her normal self

[turbid badge]

timed lol

just wait it out yea

prob easier

or just use true damage and bypass

[west kraken]

But the shield can regenerate

And its kinda hard to stall since the boss does a CC followed by aoe

Which basically kills every non defender

[pearl sentinel]

Tyty. I'm trying to stall p1 with hoshi and kill it with SA and then stall p2 again with something and kill it with mlynar

[foggy grove]

hoshi can stall both phase

[turbid badge]

lolo

me with silence

[sonic willow]

Just stall in swamp and you should be alright

[turbid badge]

2 medics and a someone with like 2.5k+ hp should tank

[west kraken]

Is boss actually weak to silence

Really

[turbid badge]

oh no

i mean the medic

lol

[sonic willow]

People always cope boss not silence immune

[turbid badge]

her drone keeps alive when she does the 2 hit lol

2 hit spam

if ur whale ig NG exists

newbie can just use 2 medics

[sonic willow]

Idk, after like the 50th boss that's obviously silence immune, maybe just accept That silencing bosses is stupid

[west kraken]

Silence just negates the boss entire kit unless it has some unique properties when silenced idk

Which is why it really never is a thing in most scenarios

[turbid badge]

u just want a fast redeploy or someone to break the disarm

[west kraken]

Texalter :)

[turbid badge]

[sonic willow]

Use Reed on your blocker and let her balls go crazy

[turbid badge]

oh god

next event mechanics

[sonic willow]

More disarm?

[turbid badge]

actually nvm

it looks lingable

the cm on the last ex map helps u

its -1 block mfw

[soft crystal]

One day silence will cheese a boss

[frigid kite]

Silence cheeses W from Episode 1

[latent monolith]

Silence cheeses crownslayer

[tidal sedge]

Imagine...

Bringing NG, Ptilopsis, Perfumer...

[latent monolith]

We're talking about lappland silence not the medic

Also neither of those have global range

[sonic willow]

imagine

[tidal sedge]

Perfumer has Global Heal... All Allies and Summons

[tidal sedge]

Lappdumb's Silence? IDK bout that, never use her except on the Seaborn stage

[tidal sedge]

Mlynar, Texalter, Surtr

is the most banned Trio

[vernal lion]

they didn't ban Rosa

[tidal sedge]

No point on banning her

How you would use her in those stages

[cosmic thicket]

this was b4 her mod

[frigid kite]

You put her and then she kills enemies

[turbid badge]

lololo

[scarlet fulcrum]

they didnt know lmao

[elder flume]

15 mins to keep her on the first tile

[latent monolith]

frd stalling?

[elder flume]

Uhuh

Failed run tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

Testing smt?

[elder flume]

Just recording old mechanic

[scarlet fulcrum]

the one in 1-11?

[turbid badge]

sa needs to be deployed for talent?

or je just blocking

[elder flume]

Block

Its stairs teleportation

[turbid badge]

oh

[scarlet fulcrum]

similiar with pyrite hype?

[elder flume]

I do not remember pyrite

Trying to skip W stairs animation

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J18Or1Gmvak

[scarlet fulcrum]

its fixed on en tho, its like if u weedy CS she will die from cringe distance measurement or smt. I dont remember exact detail tho maybe im wrong

[scarlet fulcrum]

interesting

[elder flume]

Wdym fixed

Push doesnt have any changes afaik

[scarlet fulcrum]

The stairs bug only

[elder flume]

Oh thats fixed globally

No more nightmare best operator

[scarlet fulcrum]

oh yeah dang nightmare

She missed chance to become hellagud in EN

[full finch]

wait does nightmare S2 still stack

[elder flume]

Prob

Its been a while

[vernal lion]

they fixed nightmare dmg long time ago tho

[turbid badge]

de

lol rip nightmare dps

[vernal lion]

also this bug still exists

[elder flume]

Instant stairs

But have to stall 180s before that to instant out enemy

[turbid badge]

stairs

[vernal lion]

but the logic is not right

it's not even stair

[near folio]

That stage is way too early for it to be a priority for devs

[elder flume]

Its pathing

W got pushed to a no pathing

Hence the next action is enter stair

[scarlet fulcrum]

makes sense

[elder flume]

It follows for any stairs map

[scarlet fulcrum]

[vernal lion]

which one can you try that for some stage?

Talulah ?

[elder flume]

Shangshu anni is pretty easy

Everything goes through stairs

[vernal lion]

because they're 0 block ?

[elder flume]

Just kill the splitting enemies next to a void wall

They split

Which pushes them more into no pathing zone

Which triggers stairs

[vernal lion]

it's hard to figure out the wayt to try this

[elder flume]

Tldr any map that has stairs with an enemy that is stuck before entering stairs

Theres not much that can be no pathing ed with just deploy shift and sometimes they fail because not jammed in enough

[turbid badge]

it did that too with pompei

lol disseappesr

[blissful wren]

For IS2, is there any good ops to focus on using? most videos or guides are like 1 year old

[vernal lion]

nah it's still like that tho

IS2 is just an easy way to make familiar to roguelike mode

[full finch]

oh yeah

why do enemies sometimes walk backwards

usually happens when they turn around to attack near a wait point

[vernal lion]

they miss the destination point

[pallid veldt]

its like

their checkpoint

right

[vernal lion]

yea

[pallid veldt]

they have to go to their checkpoint

its weird

like the f1 expansion stage on IS2 has it

[vernal lion]

even you push them into the bluebox, if there's a checkpoint but didn't reach first, they still move back to that and then move to the next checkpoint or the rest to the bluebox

[pallid veldt]

pushing cc11 wraiths into left side blue box

pepelaugh

[vernal lion]

oh forgot about 2 or more different paths for checkpoint, if there's 2 or more different paths

it might just lead them right through to the bluebox if it's different than the og path

[verbal sparrow]

specter alter and mon3tr are perfect baits for steam knight

I didn't build spalter at first but now I appreciate her role (to die a lot)

[lethal dragon]

That mountain deployment

[verbal sparrow]

actually 1st-tried h11-4 just now thanks to spalter

[scarlet fulcrum]

tile ban ptsd

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/580635263559008276.png?quality=lossless

Fuck that stage

[scarlet fulcrum]

[turbid badge]

lol

[elder flume]

Oh my auto alr desynced in the first minute

Hmm

[turbid badge]

lmfao

thorns kills eblana so easily by tanking

disarm thorns?

regen

lul

hold down evlana

just need a strong st medic fir p3

p2

[foggy grove]

saria is her punching bag

[latent monolith]

Any good hp op with any decent medic holds eblana easily

[turbid badge]

yea true

funny to utilize thorns regen

[formal moss]

do you guys know how to make last knight not die in this stage? cuz this has been my ending 2 end runner for a while

[latent monolith]

Thorns S2

[turbid badge]

oh medicine sticks

lol

its honestly really scary

if u get that stage at d15 and knight

but lower difficulty u can like stall? i guess with the elemental damage totem idk lolo its really annoying yea

[formal moss]

wait wtf is this stage? i never seen this one before

is the dog, bear and the duck gonna be in each lane?

[turbid badge]

its duck bear

no

there in seperate

ah i kinda forgot

[formal moss]

which lane does bear go?

[turbid badge]

which one goes

try arkmap

or google name

also that tree stump isnt a hole

i thought it was when i started the stage

lol

[ionic mortar]

I am having trouble with LS 5

[foggy grove]

use more vg

[ionic mortar]

Vanguard?

[sonic willow]

Let flowers pass 💀

[sonic willow]

You need 3-4 early blockers

[ionic mortar]

Who should I bring

[sonic willow]

Your vanguard except myrtle

[ionic mortar]

Like this?

[foggy grove]

Idk about e1 l1 zima but yeah you can try

[ionic mortar]

I don't t have much options

[pine mason]

ahhhhh

im done

delete game time

[tidal sedge]

Annihilation 17 tomorrow, should be an easy Horse Uncle Sweep

[glass monolith]

Good old DV event which forgot to design not elite enemies

[vernal lion]

top is bear, middle is duck, bottom is thief

I hope you have known how cancer that stage is

[tidal sedge]

DV event was a nightmare as a new player

[vernal lion]

I just want new players can try OD, because it's more cancer than DV

[tidal sedge]

Oh the ash event, I would not want to go through that as a newbie

[elder flume]

oh paintbrush is active in en

[pearl sentinel]

Is there something I'm supposed to be baiting in fc8 p2? My hoshi gets one shotted in p2 and everything goes to shit

[sonic willow]

-stall the boss on swamp tile to debuff aspd
-kill the wisp asap
-2 medics

baiting the wisp is probably a good idea yeah

[pearl sentinel]

Yeah I am stalling it in the middle swamp tile

But what wisps are you talking about? The invisible ones?

[sonic willow]

disarm

[elder flume]

someone should make a list of all possible en pause deploy stages fr

[gleaming lodge]

what do you mean ?

[elder flume]

cn isnt the only server with pause deploy

others can with scuff

miss the timing and you lose the opportunity

[near folio]

Is it possible to pause deploy on mobile?

[elder flume]

back then it was back button

the scroll ui ver of phones would use split screen instead

[gleaming lodge]

I mean yeah, but that's not a good thing...

[elder flume]

any scrap is usable

been trying for 45 mins to get the timing but eh

[gleaming lodge]

what are you trying to do ?

honestly I would just give up on pause deploy at all
we haven't heard any official statement about it as well

as sad as it is
I still have the muscle memory of it when playing on emu lol

[elder flume]

paintbrush

[gleaming lodge]

the what ?

[elder flume]

look at 2nd stain bot trail

[gleaming lodge]

huh

that looks cursed ngl

[elder flume]

can fill the screen if you drag while pause

paintbrush

my hands are too cold for this

[gleaming lodge]

what do you mean paintbrush ?

it kind of looks like one yeah

[elder flume]

paint with stain bot

[gleaming lodge]

but that's more annoying to do than just deploying normally at this point

[elder flume]

en way of living

[gleaming lodge]

the one thing I do want is a way to check current block count

like 3/4

so that I know my Cuora can block one more enemies

for 4 block it's fine
but in SSS I can reach 10 easily, and well, it's hard to see anything

[gleaming lodge]

wow this chat really is dead

[heady hedge]

hi guys how to beat 0-1 cm with mlynar

[gleaming lodge]

Doesn't Wildmane reduce guards/vanguards cost ?

[sonic willow]

consider: gitgud

[sonic willow]

guards only iirc

[still cipher]

can anyone help me clear FC8?

i tried using kyostinV strat but still couldnt clear it, the monster just gets one shot by the boss after the second stage

can anyone help me out? This is the current team im using together with a support kal sit

[pallid veldt]

for second stage

can u try like

specter s2 + chalter + surtr

idk

specter prob hold enough time for chalter and surtr to kill

[vernal lion]

did you know that the mud tile can decrease aspd of enemy too?

the boss will across the mud tile right in middle of the map

kekw

[still cipher]

alright, ill give that a try, thank you

[still cipher]

no, i forgot about that

so i try to stall him at the tile there?

he needs to be in the middle or does my defender need to be in the middle?

[vernal lion]

*her

yea, let her stay right in the mud tile

[still cipher]

hmm ill give it a try then thanks

i think they might still get one shot cause of a skill or something tho

[vernal lion]

the disarm skill is basically made your op taking 100% burn elemental dmg

so there's no point to counter it

just use op with high HP

[glass monolith]

Nobody:
Quartz: My time has come

[gleaming lodge]

Quartz haters when a boss doesn't deal physical damage

[latent monolith]

Me when you only need 2.5k hp

[prime mica]

Hey guys how do I complete this operation.

[glass monolith]

Make Quartz alter abyss hunter

[still cipher]

any recommendations? i think my highest HP unit is hoshiguma

[glass monolith]

Kill everything outside of blue box

[prime mica]

i know that but what operators should I use

[whole hawk]

could I get help clearing FC-8? I already tried kyostinv strat but everyone on the left side dies during boss second phase, and specter can't kill the enemies fast enough and leaks

[glass monolith]

One which works, you didn't specify operation

[gleaming lodge]

Remove that E0 Myrtle please...

[whole hawk]

I have a levelled Elysium but he doesn't generate DP fast enough

[gleaming lodge]

What are their skill levels ?

Also the DP pressure in this stage is not crazy, I don't think you really need vanguards

[whole hawk]

For who? Elysium is 6

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah there is no way Ely S1 sl6 generates less than Myrtle S1 sl4

[glass monolith]

I'm trying to get off Myrtle drug because sometimes i only make stage harder for me by wasting time on getting her print going.
Now i am Cantabile S2 simp

[gleaming lodge]

Just don't use vanguards

Most of the time you don't actually need them

[glass monolith]

I use Flametail, she is vanGUARD

[whole hawk]

Are there any other tips?

[gleaming lodge]

No ?
If the left side dies, add more firepower

Make sure the revive guys don't revive

And stall the boss
Other than that idk what to tell you, the stage isn't very hard given what ops you have

[whole hawk]

Alright, thank you

[gleaming lodge]

I'm aware this is kind of rude

Maybe if you show your setup we can help you more

[glass monolith]

Boss felt overwhelming for me, until i realized you can just have only 1 operator affected by all this covid crap of her, then it turns into waiting for her death

And by "realized" i mean i got everyone fucking dead, somehow whaled this shit and then see all those 3 operator clears

I'm surely won't have any issue on EX stage now knowing how she works

[foggy grove]

watch me

[glass monolith]

Oh right, new annihilation hype

[main halo]

AH team just kinda carried everything

I only used Texalter for like 2-3 times?

[glass monolith]

I stacked damage reduction on Skadi on this map

[main halo]

Exactly

Skadi alone is enough to survive the jackhammer attack(or whatever it is) but I even added Shamare to the math

[whole hawk]

It follows kyostinv's guide except I use Amiya instead of Jessica on the right since I didn't level any other snipers
Thank you for the help!

[gleaming lodge]

[glass monolith]

Using slow attacking core caster instead faster attacking sniper against enemies with 50 def 50 RES with hit based revive BULLSHIT

[gleaming lodge]

If you are still struggling don't hesitate to ask again

[glass monolith]

And holy crap i didn't knew those shits has 0 def

[tidal sedge]

Stalling the boss with mud

Wondering how long does it take?

[main halo]

As long as it takes

Like mine for example

Max level is 20

[tidal sedge]

I used Mudrock bruh

With Shinning defense

[main halo]

Very long maybe

But I'm sure Mud will never die so have fun waiting

[tidal sedge]

Well what else I can do? The cycle doesn’t give me what I want.

It is only half of HP( boss)

[main halo]

And the boss has 3 phases

[tidal sedge]

U have gotta be kidding me.

[main halo]

I have no reason to

[tidal sedge]

So what will happen in phase 2

[main halo]

More mobs spawn

He might gets stronger but he won't be killing Mud anytime soon

[tidal sedge]

The cycle better give me Mylnar I have a lot of vanguard to stack up

[main halo]

You use supporter B right?

[tidal sedge]

Well with Shinning defense buff Mud is “Unkillable” yeah

[tidal sedge]

Well yes

So what about final phase of boss?

[main halo]

The phases aren't too different iirc

Let me check

[tidal sedge]

I still stalling the boss with Mud while chatting.

[main halo]

Just defensive stats and ASPD increase

[tidal sedge]

Well I have more defense for that

I can just use Shinning skill and buff mud defense to 2.9k defense

[main halo]

If RNG isn't on your side you might as well stall until tomorrow

[tidal sedge]

Feel like I am playing Pinch Out market version.

[main halo]

Feels a bit like it

[tidal sedge]

Done phase 1 after almost half of hour

RNG hate me bro

This gonna be long hell of stalling

[steep tartan]

Oh no please let us know how it goes!

[tidal sedge]

I am doing it almost done phase 2 now and stalling with Orca

[main halo]

1 more buddy

[tidal sedge]

I lost at phase 3

[main halo]

Is it the mobs?

[latent anvil]

How

[tidal sedge]

Well lack of dps

[latent anvil]

The boss doesn't even do anything

Is it normal or emergency

[main halo]

He's just a brawler with bloated stats

[tidal sedge]

Well boss has like 1% HP left

And I lost

[main halo]

Did he kill your staller?

[tidal sedge]

Yes unfortunately

I am so close

[main halo]

But I thought you can stall as long as it takes

[main halo]

You replaced Mudrock with Orca but RNG was a dick to you

[tidal sedge]

U so right about that.

[frigid kite]

Try borrowing kalsit to kill the boss

Kalsit S3

[tidal sedge]

NTR too

[glass monolith]

Deploy something with high HP (Surtr S1 because who cares she will be stunned by Covid anyway) and heal with Warf, boss can't apply covid outside her 2 tile range. Kill everything else. Kill boss. Twice

[latent anvil]

[glass monolith]

We need JP-lounge

[harsh bloom]

Penance can handle last wave of rocket mechas? With shining or skalter

[glass monolith]

Why the is fucking hole on bottom btw?

[harsh bloom]

I don't have mllynar

[glass monolith]

50% duration expired on Whisprain. Cause of death. Ear bleed

[scarlet ledge]

idk

[scarlet ledge]

if have enoug charge? sure but 5 of them will annihilate penance

[harsh bloom]

Not 3? From right boxes

[scarlet ledge]

unless you kill them

no issue then

[scarlet ledge]

3 spawn earlier

then 2 came last wave

so 5 ranged robot

[harsh bloom]

Their position is too far generally for most ops to reach

💀

[scarlet ledge]

reed2 is spot there

[harsh bloom]

She only reach 1 of em

[scarlet ledge]

here on red box

@harsh bloom yknow i just bait there hsot

with mudrock and ng bait

then let them killed one by one

thats enough for me wgen i did it on cn

[harsh bloom]

one by one

Im afraid ill take too long b4 they move and multishot in range

[scarlet ledge]

ngl u can put reed2 there on sole top ranged tile

[scarlet ledge]

ngl theu are scary from start

u just need enough baiting shot using defender

or fine

[harsh bloom]

Where do 3 of them appear first?

Middle

[scarlet ledge]

ye middle last tile

they syand there for a while

so u can kill them

[tidal sedge]

Is Puzzle any good?

[harsh bloom]

Cantabile better

[tidal sedge]

No surprises there

[harsh bloom]

More like dps than a dp printer

[tidal sedge]

Oh yeah saw a video of him doing a lot of damage

to bosses even

That's why I asked

[harsh bloom]

For bosses uhhh...

Quite hard to use and depends on the boss

Since his skill is offense recovery

[tidal sedge]

It was Pancho Salas ( DH boss), Jesselton, the big ugly, EB second phase, etc

Idk it was legit or not tho

[glass monolith]

Puzzle S1 + Stainless S3 on full hp is most stupid DP printer in this game

[harsh bloom]

S2 i presume?

[tidal sedge]

Yea

[harsh bloom]

His art dot is best iirc aside from thorns's

Stacking 10x

Oh btw that means he's not good in this event

Dublinn mobs has high art res

[glass monolith]

If you want funny Arts dot, just get Firewhistle on Lin banner

[harsh bloom]

wdym by funny dot?

[glass monolith]

(Her Paradox on CN) ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz1d4etNX7k||

[harsh bloom]

Nrhd

[solid dew]

reed s3 would have fun with this level, shame its a paradox lol

[harsh bloom]

[glass monolith]

almost 1k (talent to gain ATK when not blocking) arts DoT for 6 seconds on 5 tiles (tile where enemy was + 4 tiles around it). Uptime for skill is about 33%, without counting than fire still happen after S2 ends)

[harsh bloom]

Fortress arch kinda very nice nuker in the game

[glass monolith]

Firewhistle could possible be funny on next annihilation with about 80% of stage shit coming top lane

Would be shame if we were touching grass instead because annihilation tomorrow and firewhistle gacha in 2-3 weeks assuming we won't get Jebaited on stream into dead week, IW rerun or straight up cc12

[flat sapphire]

We already know it's a 3.5 anniversary stream so it can only be chongyue

[blissful mantle]

Good strat to FC-8? When she lights up the reeds, I get to play crashknights if i don't beat her in time.

[harsh bloom]

Uhh..... Her 2nd phase makes your device crash?

[blissful mantle]

Got the thing 2019 or so, So yeah.2nd form causes crash.

[harsh bloom]

Hmmm, that'll be hard to execute her in about 10 seca

Because she disarm 2 units nearby

[blissful mantle]

True damage can punch through? I do have an E2 kal.

And Texalter.

[harsh bloom]

Does it instantly crashes or in a minute?

If once she ignites the map and it crash then its impossible

[blissful mantle]

Currently, It takes maybe a minute before crash? I can get her down to clashes on the right side, With my elemental healer.

[harsh bloom]

E2 kal and borrow ntrk s3

[blissful mantle]

I have both, So thanks for the headsup.

[harsh bloom]

Left side no problem i assume

[blissful mantle]

A little dicey..Typically have Silverash and Penance there.Other heals is skalter.

[harsh bloom]

Oooh you may ignore left side

[blissful mantle]

Because kal and Ntrk switch in will punch her shield down regardless of the buff.

[harsh bloom]

Right side. Adjust your timing to activate kal and ntrk's skill after her invincibility gone

Im sure both is more than enough to execute her swiftly

Deploy texalter after she enters 2nd phase just in case she cast disarm

[blissful mantle]

So Ntrk as drop unit for first form, Then deploy Mon + Tex to feint and knock her down quickly?

[harsh bloom]

Tex won't deal any dmg

Only mon

[flat sapphire]

U want true dmg

Ntrk s3

[blissful mantle]

So tex is bait, Gotcha.

[flat sapphire]

Texalt to deal with the disable

[harsh bloom]

Yeah, to free mon from disarm

Her shield is same as her hp(art and physic)

[flat sapphire]

U want to destroy it asap

Maybe it's better to wait for her to use it before popping ur skill

[blissful mantle]

here is the squad. who are good drops to slot in kal and Ntrk?

[harsh bloom]

Texalter s3

[blissful mantle]

Mass stun will drop her goon squad quicker?

[harsh bloom]

Her goon squad is hit count

In ember form

Soldier form they're pretty weak

[flat sapphire]

If u have a centurion you can just let them solo left side with a healer

[blissful mantle]

And s3 hits very quickly..And my centurion game weak.My blaze is not happy.

[harsh bloom]

E1 lvl 50 is enough ig

[flat sapphire]

As long as they survive

It should be ok

The mobs are pretty weak

U can just drop texalt if it gets a bit dicey

Right side is pretty much the same tbh

[blissful mantle]

If it is just Skalter and a centurion left side, Then that leaves full painsquad right, And ntrk/Mon in the middle.

[flat sapphire]

The only real threat is the last enemy

[harsh bloom]

Thorns soloes left

He has dot

Also better focus at right side rather than middle

[flat sapphire]

Idk i haven't tried thorns

Blaze skadialt should work just fine tho

[gleaming lodge]

Huh
Pretty sure you can 4 ops FC-8 with that...

[blissful mantle]

I'm mainly here to find a burst solution to knock form 2 down fast, Because otherwise, Crash.Not fun.

Blaze might be e1, My Specter is not alt.

[flat sapphire]

They want to burst eblana p2 coz phone crashes

[gleaming lodge]

Oh bruh...
That's annoying

[blissful mantle]

I am glad as hecc its not a grind stage.

[flat sapphire]

Specter works better than alt in this case

[gleaming lodge]

Wouldn't putting out the fires be more effective?

[blissful mantle]

S2 like usual?

[flat sapphire]

Yeh s2

[blissful mantle]

She lights up the whole map of reeds.Not viable..And the enemy number is 18 when she goes second form.

[flat sapphire]

P1 killgate moment

[blissful mantle]

Okay, Blaze and Specter are ready.Do i need ceobe anywhere? I was thinking the dropped units are exu and her to put in Ntrk and Kal.

[flat sapphire]

Yeh u can drop ceobe

N exu

[turbid badge]

ntrk

[blissful mantle]

If i am switching to centurions, My two defenders don't need to stay there, Do they?

[flat sapphire]

U can use one to put in front of blaze since she's e1

Just to be sure

[blissful mantle]

Lose Silverash in favour of Kal? Both My specter and Blaze are E1 maxed.

[flat sapphire]

Oh

Lapp?

SA better

For talent too

[blissful mantle]

Lose thorns, Because centurion a gogo? Kal can bounce monster around anyway.

[flat sapphire]

Lapp just doesn't rly do much here honestly

Ceobe n exu too

[turbid badge]

u want to do this fast so ur game doesnt crash?

[flat sapphire]

Left side:
Spec + skadialt

Right side:
Blaze
Blemi s1
Mullberry

Then u can just focus boss

[turbid badge]

is the lag coming from all the fire

[flat sapphire]

Yeh he crashes at p2 apparently lol

imagine fighting andoain

[blissful mantle]

So blemishine rather than penance? Also feeling a thorns ditch is okay.

Andoain was easy to handle.I am thankful this stage is not one i'll need to repeat.

[flat sapphire]

Thorns left might work too. U can try that if spec doesn't cut it ig

[blissful mantle]

So drop exu for Kal then?

[flat sapphire]

Ye

[blissful mantle]

S3 or S1 blem?

[flat sapphire]

S1

Either one actually. Shouldn't matter too much but s1 is easy

[blissful mantle]

It also outheals her if she does'nt curse Blemi.

Right side has always been where my mulberry goes, So that is sorted..Blaze point left or up when on right side?

[flat sapphire]

Point her towards the enemy path

Then just chuck blemi in front of her

[blissful mantle]

If i do this strat right, Then leader won't even get to the right..That correct?

[flat sapphire]

U want to kill her in the middle where u can put mon and ntrk on either side

[turbid badge]

do u have la pluma built

[blissful mantle]

No.I will try practise with this and see how it go.GG borrow to nuke from orbit if it goes south?

[turbid badge]

yea sure

do u lag on other maps?

*crash

[blissful mantle]

Mostly the more fancy particle effects, Like when you get stun pulses in IS3 or the like.

[harsh bloom]

How about ch10 mortar? Does it lag or...

[flat sapphire]

something like this

[gleaming lodge]

Anything can put out fires btw
W bomb, Robin's traps...

[blissful mantle]

Gotcha.Also stamps them out when she sets them alight, Or the double shot Kills her too quick.

[turbid badge]

have u turned ur fps down

[harsh bloom]

And l2d temporarily

That one is heavy

[flat sapphire]

l2d doesn't do anything in stage

[turbid badge]

and performance level?

[glass monolith]

Performance is subjective

[flat sapphire]

@blissful mantle

my blaze n spec are e2 but u have a lot of extra ops anyway

[blissful mantle]

It almost worked.Thorns on left, Not spectre.

[flat sapphire]

leak where?

[blissful mantle]

Cracked Spectre's s2 at the wrong time, Skull leak on left.Very whoops.

[flat sapphire]

ohh

u can just use spec s1

[blissful mantle]

Should'nt use s2 at all until Monster in front.

[flat sapphire]

should work just fine

i didn't need to use spec s2 even

so just s1 should be ok

[blissful mantle]

Or S1 works.Will try again.Also retreated texas and siege too early.

[turbid badge]

last 34 enemy?

[blissful mantle]

Mon and Ntrk obliterated her in the middle though, Exactly to plan.

[solid dew]

who is a good carry for the jungle SSS (other then reed of course) some form of aoe ig.
im just struggling with floor 4 while trying to get secret medal

[turbid badge]

La pluma

[solid dew]

get overwhelmed with enemies

[turbid badge]

lee

[solid dew]

dont have either built

[turbid badge]

mudrcok?

[solid dew]

shes built s2m3 but floor 4 is 2 lane

[turbid badge]

uhhh

ling

lings oretty good ngl

just to hold the lane

for ur ranged aie

aoe*

[solid dew]

dont have her, but i could use support unit

[turbid badge]

just use a chain caster lmao

pass?

[solid dew]

or him maybe, i was using GG but that doesnt really work for this map lol

[turbid badge]

are u not using eunectus beacon

[solid dew]

no, but if i dont use her i could

cause apparently she targets it on skill

[turbid badge]

it makes the map such a joke

lol

ifrit?

[solid dew]

dont have

[turbid badge]

shes good on most of the maps

Ah

[solid dew]

ill send krooster hol up

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/FirePrehistoric2
hopefully not bugged lol

[turbid badge]

ah man irene still e1

oh u have astegenne

she prob can still work with aspd stacks and beacon

wtf bru

u borrowing gg

[solid dew]

idk shes good in all the others i didnt think for half a second lol

[turbid badge]

Cant u just borrow reed?

[solid dew]

i have her, speaking of which i need to update this

[tidal sedge]

Well if your phone can make it sure

[solid dew]

she isnt on here 🗿

krooster pls i cant

[turbid badge]

oh lol

e2?

pluma cracked with all this range and aspd all these pics from naga

[solid dew]

ye

[turbid badge]

just need blockers to block while she shreds

[solid dew]

E2 LV 60 rn, no masterys im working on mylnar then texalt

[turbid badge]

ah

who do u stack

[solid dew]

usually a mix of sniper A caster A and specialist B
might not be csater A idk lemme check

its the one that gives 40% attack

[turbid badge]

tbh just borrow passenger

ohhh

[solid dew]

will do, now to find somebody with M3

[turbid badge]

ur ground carries are fine right

ur bringing both pen and mud)

?

[solid dew]

yea, i do

[turbid badge]

should just hold everything

tbh with pass u should use beacon

[solid dew]

i probably just need better luck lol

[cursive mango]

Is blue poison worth investing in if my secondary dps is 3 star kroos?

[solid dew]

yes, she has somewhat similar skill 1, (which is usually the better one) so i would build bp (i have anyway)

[cursive mango]

[solid dew]

[cursive mango]

She was my hit on the new banner (I only roll for the first 5/6 star) so I’m quite happy

[turbid badge]

how mych marsmen

other marksmen u hve

[cursive mango]

Not much

[turbid badge]

ehhh

u probably dont need to build her if h alrd have exu

[solid dew]

oh i didnt know u had exu lol

[cursive mango]

I normally field 2 ranged

[sly drift]

I would still build bp tbf

[solid dew]

you probably can still build them, but at some point AA just becomes a (somewhat) waste of slots

[turbid badge]

do i guys usually use her s1 or s2?

[tidal sedge]

End game probably

[solid dew]

for BP? S1

[tidal sedge]

S1m3 of course

[turbid badge]

idk i never used s2 before

loke at all

[solid dew]

its SP 3 is at M3 right?

[turbid badge]

2

[sly drift]

Exu upskill kinda ass. You will need bp S1m3 for high constant dps

[tidal sedge]

2 not 3

[solid dew]

god damn

[turbid badge]

pair her with cheeto and chen

lolol

But i only really use her nowadays with Stainless

[solid dew]

unlimited power

[cursive mango]

If bp ie better than kroos then it’s worth for me I think

[tidal sedge]

Well we all have to agree that maskman kinda fall off later

[solid dew]

defense go brrr

[turbid badge]

ash if enemy is stunable

[cursive mango]

Still missing a good mage, only got E2 ifrit

[sly drift]

It would be better to build Exu and Bp because they have different way to be play. And Exu is just better kroos

[turbid badge]

yea

[tidal sedge]

It is kinda obvious because u compare 6* to 3*

[sly drift]

*5

[tidal sedge]

And that one too

[tidal sedge]

What happened to your pull

Last time I saw it 60/120

[sly drift]

30 pulls rn + 38 tickets for now

But I wouldn't get 2nd copy of yato

Reed fucked me

[pallid veldt]

how many pulls on reed

[turbid badge]

nah

Pots tokens to the rescue

[sly drift]

It would've been 60 + 38

[pallid veldt]

i did 1 (one) whole pull on reed

and got asbestos

[turbid badge]

wow thats so amazing

[pallid veldt]

truly

[turbid badge]

disa pull 🍀

[surreal star]

are ur lungs ok

[pallid veldt]

rofl!!!!!!!!!!!

[solid dew]

i did 70 or something i think, got spooked by a thorns pot, got sad (but kept pulling out of anger lol) and then got a 5 star bait bag and got reed

[pallid veldt]

i pulled on bag banner before that

so i didnt have any for reed

[solid dew]

[pallid veldt]

not that i really wanted her anyways

[surreal star]

f2p p5 bag haver?

[pallid veldt]

no lol

[solid dew]

fair enough ig

[pallid veldt]

if i had actually played during like

cc9 cc10

my acc wouldve been so much better

but now it literally looks like i started on texas banner

pepela

[flat sapphire]

omg

hi disa

[solid dew]

the difference between how i did in CC10 compared to 11 is hillarious lol

[flat sapphire]

[pallid veldt]

hi

alia

cc10 seemed pretty gamign

i did fine in cc11

meeting expectations

[solid dew]

i got 2 medals from CC10, and then compleatly finished cc11 (trimmed, all medals etc)

[pallid veldt]

waw

[solid dew]

[flat sapphire]

[pallid veldt]

my medal sets say no info for cc9 and cc10

i am most improved

but no my bag is only p4

wouldve been p5 if i had played for like

the 8 months i didnt

or if i had actually pulled bag on bag standard

[solid dew]

imagine having bagpipe couldnt be me

[pallid veldt]

why u not buy

rn

[solid dew]

i wanna save pull for yalter

[pallid veldt]

oh

like buy pull?

[solid dew]

ye, 38 is alot so i usually rely on it (did for texalter to get to 300 too)

rip 400 op gained as F2P you will be missed

[pallid veldt]

i see

ive bought pulls only once i think

[sly drift]

Yato will come around 3 months. Even as f2p with like 20pulls right now you can still afford the pity.

I luv collab banner

[turbid badge]

no pull?

[solid dew]

i have like 3 permits + a ten pull rn (not including gold certs) idk should i get bagpipe?

would i use her is the queston tho

[flat sapphire]

Yato alt comes with 20 pulls so u only need to save 100 for spark

[solid dew]

60k op is a bit tho, but daily pass thingy may help

[sly drift]

Not really. Bagpipe obtainable through recruits.

[solid dew]

kal is coming supposedly tho isnt she? might wait for her i dont have any true dmg rn

[sly drift]

I would always use that as an excuse

[turbid badge]

no kal??

[flat sapphire]

Amiya has true damage

[turbid badge]

[solid dew]

barely

[flat sapphire]

No it's quite a bit. She could kill patriot

[turbid badge]

yeah its just annoying to start

lol

[pallid veldt]

i have 1 pull rn

kinda gaming

[solid dew]

kal just to easy tho lol

[turbid badge]

compared to ntrk and kal just click skill

[sly drift]

Amiya actually has better damage isn't it? It just that she dies after using it

[turbid badge]

idk

lemme check m3

[flat sapphire]

Idk the numbers but the dmg isn't half bad

[solid dew]

big downside tho, which is why i usually use S1 on her

[sly drift]

I wouldn't recommend amiya over kal tho

Kal with 20s (25?) cooldown true damage is fucking nut