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Too much thinking for me
And calculated horn S2s everywhere 
If i had LMD every time i see defender skill activated on 2 digit hp 
The stage originally took 13 max pot defenders or smth ofc a 6op clear will be tight
for mylnar in SSS, does he just use the funny 5 VG strat?
Usually you can run like 3 vg 2 guard A/B or smth
Play as you like, i personally stack some Guards because it is funny to go brrrrr
5 guard is the best
Which, btw, nowadays you can just play 5 guards 0 vg
Specially on next Update
oh okay 
Where SSS becomes playable
What happens next update
SSS dies
am I behind on strats lmao I've just been spamming passenger casters and penance
When we get SSS where half of enemies are invisible because F you 
I only knew of monthly and 6 floor maps
got fucked by the casters rip, ill change thorns placement and drop surtr to deal with them
Since when was 5 guard mly a thing
Since one Update i don't remember
I prefer a few vg stacks anyways
I think it was one of the nerfs
Usually stuff doesn't leak mlynar on skill
Yeah, it's comfy
Ground comps should focus mostly on vg for cycling
So it's nicer to have his skill up more often
But 5vg loses quite a bit of damage so like somewhere it the middle is where I go
Vg loses the whole damage
It's subjective really and depends on your other carries and what you have issues with
Like if you have issues with the boss you can go a little heavy on guards to try and delete boss hp
This was responding to abanicador btw
That's the idea, how much damage does Vg mlynar do, if you are going to wait the full charge then better use Guards, being the same thing
Room for error is valuable
I stack vg because I have more of them in my deck
5 vanguards will activate like every 17-18 seconds so he drops like 40% of damage of full (100 + 400%) charge 
Like sure doing some guard stacks is good if you have guards
And yeah bringing 5 guards when everyone else just stacks vanguards is probably not smooth
But you can kill your cycle more easily the more guards you bring
Anyways itβs not really that big of a deal since sss isnβt too hard in the first place
You can always choose to keep guards in your hand during first rotation so they don't ruin your cycle
You can kinda "discard" cards just by keeping them in your hand
Idk if it makes sense

Btw most of the easy carries use vanguard anyways, what I usually do is pick guards and then cycle them for Mlynar very fastly
real
vg A spam is the only way
Horn S1, Penance S3 and Mud S2
Oh wait wait wait, i think i recall which was first 6 floor SSS map 
The reed alter paradox
fuck
got hellagur dupe

no pot 6 bgp this time
imma stop pulling and save for y2
No Bgp for me 
Y'all are mean
Maybe it's not too bad since she wasn't needed for CC 12 higher risks 
Bagpipe got Cantabiled 
wow amazing saileach +15 aspd
+13 without talent
ew
hellagur new module

ayo
clone buff
useless

Tell me about Myrtle and Elysium

Idr how i cleared that map
Yes, how you cleared something while haivng Vigil is big question 
shit bright af π¨βπ¦―
ok bruh
there is around 25% chance to get E2 6*s in the voucher associated with your class squad
so 75% of my runs die at the first recruitement
and then you only get 6 E2 6*
there are 8 6* defenders
I need Horn


but it's massive copium
counting attempts that beat the first voucher
I got two runs into f4
out of 40 attempts ?
ohh
the escort is nice actually
i see
the knight is very useful in early floors
just because he can block and DPS
sometime push enemies into holes as well
ye
what's the weight of the dog miniboss btw ?
2
can he be pushed by the knight is my only question
iirc duck can't
put I'm not expert on shift
bear is definitely too fat
bear fat
yeah
I'm still struggling to figure out f3 maps honestly
the summoning boss seems to the easiest
because Horn blasts it
horn just fucks on all 3 of them doesnt she
OH FFS
Seriously
Hoshi doesn't dodge
she blocks
the funny ATK up when dodging relic doesn't work on her..........
I love this game
She Dark Souls Parry
@glass monolith 
I swear the game doesn't want me to play
oof
every time I get a game-breaking choice in whish fulfilled, I roll a 1
defender black book
one extra voucher after battle
- 30 DP


maybe it's a sign I should stop playing

well at least the funny recruitment chances sheet is looking good
I'll probably make some pie charts for fun
but yeah
27% chance to get 6* is huh

I'm having """fun"""
though I probably should stream my attempts for more fun
tbh I'm probably schizodrafting as well
kek
I don't know what to choose when I don't get E2 6*s
like, is E1 Blem better than E2 Nearl ?
no clue
no excuse
gacha better
on that note
I'll go to bed
this bs made me sleepy as hell
yes this is off-topic idc
goodnight 


ye mud s2
im lazy to use s3 unless i really need it

night
lol

cement is m6 btw 
hi water
o/
excited for puzzle lul
i dint want to use canta on alt
well he can't replace her but idc
so i have to use him instead
both skill good
but ye canta is just ye
@gentle finch excited for boss reaction when eblana arrived

eblana damage is so lethal
I haven't spoiled myself with her
so I too will be surprised
I have enough 5* to make some teams so I'll be playing this event without 6*
that boss is pain and annoyance
fuck medal requiremtn too on ex 8
thats all i can say
lmao
π
dam
@gentle finch oh ye i pulled 24 got hellagur dupe
atleast didnt cost much, hoping to max pot bgp lmfao
gotta start saving now

i just pull for dupe

then save fkr ya2

thats exactly why I haven't done them LOL
if I wanna mod my 5* I need to start doing it though
what ur 5β raised?
prio important module
for now im just e2ing
like scene,krooster and etc
leizi mod built?
no leizi
wtf
ye sp1+
I think my next e2 is probs rockrock or zima
SORRY
lol i built both
Honestly i dont use rockrock that much Anymore i picked her back up when her skin came but her dps is pretty good i guesss
mfw rockrock s1 better in her paradox
based
zima first probably cuz Texas too squishy

kjera is so reliant on freeze
zima with module and talents pretty tanky
i use reed for charger
Its decent if ur using other vanguards
reed huh
but it lasts too short for my liking
waow no texas module yet

minimalist i tried in is3
hahahe
hes Okay his talent is funny
i wanna raise these 5 stars no lmd doe
not much more to raise tbh
just masteries
and some 4 stars
ye you need to prio ashlock and fw then kaze
truly dalao
mm pallas
u raised nearl?
yes
oh good
lol yea i always use e1
ngl idk which unit to raise
raise bubble
@turbid badge which e0 to e2? since puzzle is first, not here yet doe.
provence
shes cool
who are the best ground units for a guard/vanguard strategy in sss? Mylnar with gaurd b (?) and penance with vg? Horn and Irene too?
Irene (she is insane, s3 oneshots anything, hits air) > Mudrock/Penance (invincible blockers are good, just place them near irene so she can kill what they block) > Horn (s1), gavialter and Mlynar are decent filler too
I run all type A
Mlynar filler lul
Literally the best dps
"decent filler" 
decent filler
takes from this guy 
borrowing irene
Should I take out a supporter for another vanguard? or another guard for another vanguard?
Don't run fodder guard
ah oki
only fodder supporter 
what in the cursed π
more VGs and Supporters
Ye
Ye doesn't matter if it's like fang or smth
Mine is something like this
o.o that's a lot of supporter
I just like horn because I'm lazy
She kill most things before it comes to penance range
I unfortunately don't have them which is why I'm using them as a fill in

I might just take an extra supporter and borrow irene over horn

Irene is prolly better,horn tile can be awkward
i'll cut nearl and surtr for supporter but 
how many vg and how many guards does irene like?
5 vg duh
so u can spam her skill
her dps is alrd good
so just have better cycle
lol
that just means you're not making use of other operators
fair
okay I'm at boss now
do I just slap mylnar mid and horn to poke boss and just hold other lanes
oh okay tic tac toe forehead and uncle made that piss easy
tysm yall!
Which boss
Most likely glebe 
Hey guys, does anyone have some calcs on Phantom second module and maybe some comparisons
Anyone have any tips for getting ending 2 in IS3?
Just can't seem to keep that knight alive
What do you usually take ?
You want to be able to perma-stall him btw
So Erato S1, Mr.nothing or something along those lines is necessary
if its d0 you can just kill with chalter as long as you get the -def
You can also bring Heidi to give him 0 block during the escort mission
Ah I haven't even seen the boss yet lol
Keep failing to escort the knight to stage 5
what dificulty is this?
so the best way to keep him alive is to just use texalter when he is in danger
texalter in d0 should be able to kill everything no problem
yeah that also helps
IS3 skill tree is quite large in terms of bonuses
More starting life, ways to recover shield, lots of stats, more keys and die rolls, more uses for die rolls, etc.
Think I'm about half way done
AP-5: closed
Vanguard chips: closed
Well time to farm some Mandragoras
Is there a sheet for cc12? Is horn relevant for cc12?
Not that I remember no
The sheet is not out yet, give it a couple of weeks at the very least
Can Reedalter replace a normal caster from the Squad??
If your other dps make it out even w/o that caster, yes
Casters are bad so yes
Not considering others, just her vs Casters
Well i'd say no
Literally all the good arts damage dealers aren't casters 
Flametail + ReAl and forget about that one lane till end of map 
I mean yeah most casters suck but some are really good for specific purpose
Indigo is god at making your auto desync and die
Who tf is ReAl ?
Re-ed Al-ter
That's reedic sir
I'm not sorry
You should be sorry

You're lazy
Aren't you the one who calls bagpipe "bp" ?
That's blue poison
Techically truth 
I still recall that dude 2-3 days ago who refers to stage by their name
I saw someone said before
Say only bag people still get it
Only people who didn't got BP from recruit spook get it 
I love my Bp
bp = blue poison
bag = bagpipe
Reed alter = Reedic
I call Silence Alter Loud
What is Xollis? 
Potato potato song theme go on
Is gravel bad in most missions or is she good for replacing dead melee units?
Just is good at making sure your melee units do not die
By baiting the incoming ranged attacks and temporarily stopping melee enemies
Is catapult better then lava?
They do different things but catapult has bigger range (and does phys damage) whereas lava does arts damage in a smaller range
Generally AoE casters aren't that great though
Catapult is physical with no damage up from skill and AOE increase won't help much when game move from quantity to quality
Lava is arts
Catapults splashes do aoe damage
I think I'll go with catapult instead of lava
Because she looks cooler
No dorky wand
Catapult 
Lava is better in the early game
Catapult is never better 
Except in CA-5 and anni2 I guess, but any other AoE sniper will do
And you can raise AoE snipers, whereas you shouldn't raise AoE casters
another option early is gitanto i would say she doesn't "need" e2
Gitano should never get E2
At least her e2 is usable in base yea gitano fine at like mid e1
Are there any really good operator(s) to try borrow from support at the start in IS2, if I'm trying to beat the first boss?
In IS3 Texalter S3 makes the entire first boss trivial by grounding it so I never had any issues with that, but now I've maxed out the Ecosequence for it I've started IS2. Trying to unlock Deep Investigation for those extra rewards as well as passively grind out Castle Notes, but no matter who I seem to draft I can't do anything in the final boss.
The rest of the stages are fine, pretty on par with IS3, sometimes I get a bad setup or something and just lose the run to a random stage I wasn't prepared for, but I get good runs every now and again and get to the final boss, same as in IS3. But I always end up losing in that stage, it seems way worse than IS3's first boss by comparison.
I'm most of the way through the bts preparation stuff, missing a couple % on each of the stats, doesn't seem like it's going to be making a huge difference in runs, but welcome to be corrected.
My roster is relatively small and pretty underlevelled still, only been playing for around a month, I do have the resources to build one or two more units if need be (or some more than that if they're 3/4*'s) and have a list of good units to build for IS already, but I've been trying to spend as much as little since I plan to pull for Reedic later this week, and depending if I get her, or another good off rate unit I might want to build them instead, but if there's some key units that'll really make things smoother I don't mind doing it, since if I just grind IS2 for a while I'll get back the resources spent and more from the Castle Notes.
Mainly just looking for any tips and good supports to borrow for IS2, I usually borrow whoever I see that looks fun, but I'd also like to be able to play those Deep Investigations and none of my stuff is working right now for it.
Sorry for the wall of text
end 1
I've only been doing IS2 casually so far, probably less than 30 runs total, did IS3 mainly first
hello halley
hi
i see
but yeah pozy with mod1 wrecks phantom on normal
I'll give it a try 
u just need proper placement
I assume you try like spawncamp the boss? use the typewriter for it?
u can do that or put her in top left, i like that since im pretty sure he waits there longer
kal is also very effective
I think it's just my Kaltsit being a bit too underpowered, I had one run where S3 chunked them but not enough, so they broke the roadblocks and I wiped
It is not
bro e1 ur purestream and vermeil can't be slacking on that base production
I will add them to the list
Pozymeykoka
@turbid badge

cm boosted dodge poop not fun
@turbid badge csnt raise typhon
broke on cn
i just e2 80 saria

Speaking of saria, I just got her from a top operator tag. I canβt e2 her yet, so what skill is best for her? 1 or 2
probably 1
s1
2 is modtly luxury tbh
s2 is dead at this current year
easily replaceable with a aoe medic
What was s2 good for?
big range aoe , and it gives nice sp with module cuz ur consistently healing
if u wanr sp

just go with s3
true
u have arts amp too
So focus on s1 and 3
yes
@turbid badge the only time i use saria s2
is on offseason cc at cb daily and anni 3

i remember another one i used s2 saria support
its on lantern event
that have possesed thrower and rusher

pretty old
how long until yato alt? got 114 pulls and thinking about the bagpipe banner, maybe use 10?
yato should be coming in like 4ish? months
either way it's not worth pulling on bag

the banner value is pretty low
smh
lo
worth getting from the shop for the 180 yellows?
or is that a kalsit when that banner comes
if u have dps raised sure
but if no
prio kal shop
Kal is predicted to be shoperator 1st Sep 2023.
That prediction also relies on the devs not changing how it works between now and then.

i_i
lolo

not best, but can swap with skill 2, depend map situation
btw i dont usually up e2 5* operator
It would probably be cheaper than M9 W, but idk if M9 is needed
no need
If u feel allergic to e1/e2 5* unraised erato works fine for it 
Channel completely ded because new feature huh 
u can customize displayed channel now, #strategy will not shown unless u check it, or display all π for now atleast
Barely any difference tbh, atleast not completely ded
Are we have specific topic channel like this on this server? They should make one.
#discord-feedback this way sir
"feedback" 

Oh you just like this applies to #help ?
Yeah agreed, to prevent troll there but there a lot people who asked simple question
Could be #help or just make new channel
It would be problematic to #help tho
Because these kind of UI make post easily sunk away
Nah #strategy is dead already, there is no need for this
Necrosis when enemy use it: Death (unless no skills activation player)
Necrosis when you use it: Overcomplicated Shamare doll atk debuff 
That thing make mudrock obsoleted
Help is for Popcorn eater.
Hey guys
I have a question
How many SSS floors do i have to do to get the maximum reward after revamp? Right now it's usually 8+4 floors
Reed alter paradox and punch out reference 
What if you don't have reed alter
friend support
iirc Penance solos this map
Or destroys it at least
6 stealth boys from chapter 9 because game knows i hate them
Bump

Probably have to clear everything twice now
No lmao
You're going to grind and you're going to like it 
Who said i didn't like sss 

omg liking sss
I thought liking sss is like... nonexistent
I haven't procrastinated sss since day 1
I hate sss to the point not completing the second run every period
So it's always 22/30
i slightly like it
Sss is fun because you need to repeat it AND think quite a bit to complete the floors
u can just finish stage 4 and dip for 2nd time around
I personally got used to sss, i never discarded an operator when the stage starts
What's mulligan, that sounds like morgan but a code for crackhead 
i discarded my supporter 
Have you actually never played a single card game
No? 
Basically you're given your opening hand and mulligan is a chance to send stuff you don't want back to the deck
Oh yeah, i never did that
I just
"LET'S GOOO. OOGA BOOGAAA"
I just think it's a waste to discard an operator into resting zone
Just
Don't recruit garbages 
I ran mixed carry (gnosis irene mudrock) and I usually had to get rid of my snipers early
Also you would need to "hard-mulligan" for a carry unit if you somehow don't draw any in your opener for stages that have a dog rush
I run horn mizuki mudmud and sometimes gavial for ground carry
Chalter eyja goldenglow as ranged carry
Saria suzu s3 auxillary
I use chalter as sniper 5x buff with 2 equipment prep from floor4 to buff goldenglow
Now what if you brick and only draw carries 
I use that carries as buffs?
Shrimple
Eyja buff
Horn buff mudmud
Mizuki can redeploy ground vg
Saria buff mudmud
wtf horn to buff mudrock
i usually go 4vg 1 guard or 2 vg 3 guard if stage is slow
You never tried out 4vg 1def mudmud? 
She spins 24/7 and that ministun is often comes in handy cancelling defender crusher's stuns
i prefer guard because damage
I did guards but she doesn't take damage well. Hence why i prefer to slip a defender
wait r u using defender A or B
oh
Block better
doesn't defender A increase block count though
if so why are you using it for survivability
that's so cancer
I think lua do
literally mudrock/roberta or bust
or penance
penance is probably fine depending on how it scales
Ch10 mob would necrosis mud to the ground
then don't put her on frontline it's that simple
3 block wolf fr
And how you deal with cannon lmao
actually wait that is a slight problem
i keep forgetting they increase block
actually no
how hit hard cannon isn't problem ,cannon switch target real quick is
just run mudrock as ur only ground unit or smth
Hmm and manfred as boss π€£
Me entering Camo: What target? 
Firewatch heavy raid: π
Honestly SSS is trivial
I legit don't understand what the question is
Just put 5 vg A on Penance S3, Horn S1 and Mlynar S3 and you automatically win
Typhon Skill 3 M2 with a module on bosses. Is she a boss killer?
Music :
Queen of Rose (Rachel Alucard's Theme) - BlazBlue
https://youtu.be/6px3SHCcasM
Icefield White Night (Londrekia Theme) - UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH Exe:Late[cl-r]
https://youtu.be/f6vo2nJlYHE
Talulah Theme - Arknights
white02 - Arknights
Timestamps:
00:00 - Opening
00:10 - W
00:...
WHY DOES SHE DO SO MUCH DAMAGE
130k total damage moment 
is she the second coming of christ
bugknights
easy
Will this comp work in operation s2-12?
I borrowed Archetto because I don't have a sniper with a good attack rate.
ye bro where ur kroos at
You can pass without any borrow
Trash units
You didn't even do any basic
So the rest is worse
no
2 vg 2 marksman 2 medics 2 guard 2 defender and 2 flex
Flex which mean any slots slower or anything you want
Ok
show what you have
kroos is pretty good
Who's kroos?
3* sniper
sussuro and perfurmer is the better medic
vanguard you can use fang and courier
marksman is kroos and jessica,jess kinda sucks mostly just filler till you get something better
cuora for defender and try to get spot from recruitment
Ok
heavy armor enemy you want arts,so steward and lava
Are they better than some supporters like Angelina?
ange can do some art dps i guess but i never checked her eo/e1 performance
Angelina's "DPS skill" is her s3
She's mostly a utility op but does a surprising amount of damage for a supporter
So far I'm in good terms using her
yo guys, any module tier list/guides that I can refer to for my ops? The gamepress one is quite outdated
Best team for choccy street? I don't know anything bout the stage tbh
DragonGJY has one which is generally alright but I heavily disagree with his assessment that Angelina X > Angelina Y
bring a frd (wolf woman) to bait some the disarm from the guys in bottom left
gavialter and mlynar can handle middle and mountain or penance can handle top i think, i used mudrock in mine
What can I do to 3 star this? I'll have to do this later tho I'm happy enough to move on without having to stress about the 3 stars
Mountain top and penance bottom?
no bottom u leave empty for texalter drops
put penance in top mid where the exit is ig
What stage is this?
No enemies head for bottom?
I'm not talking about exits I'm talking about entrances
Uhhhh why are you using skyfire
I thought she'd be good for aoe purposes
The arknights ads got him
Turns out she was pretty bad for it
Mly mayb
I don't rember if frosty has lower Def or Res...prolly Def
Chen the wet is a good choice, maybe try mly
Def fs
Mlynar I'm not sure because he just keeps getting frozen from taunt
I'd prefer pozy
Leeeeeee
Lee would drain your dp so quickly
Is there dp down?
No
Uhhhh
Then retreat for phase 2
If you're borrowing lee you can't borrow pozy
@neat scroll ops?
Lookin at what we have to work with so far
Why mudmud, hoshi and pluma?
No Myrtle but there is flame tail
So either:
- they needed early lane holding
Or
- Myrtle isn't built
hi
Hi

11-7 is the best stage for farming those Devices??
check /material in #bot-spam
That doesn't have info on ch 11 stages last I checked
Yeah it's there in the corner mb
what *4 you guys usually use in IS2?
is2 days are erased from my memory

I change them depending on what I need but this is what I usually run
There's no team synergy just waifus that's all
No clue just Unga bunga dps dmg
Myrtle probably the only one 
I didn't build myrtle yet but I will eventually
ethan
but he's one of the few 4* i have built on my main so
may,jaye,myrtle if i go to end 3/4,ambriel and etc
ambriel is awesome
idk
maybe only may and lee
pfft i mean jaye
maye for s2
on my jp acc
4β only
deepcl grab is needed
then indigo or click for arts
then ur basic shit
Conviction can do some nice damage
estelle for lane holding
Schwertleite on his way to brag about his 7th account on the 4th different server for third morbillionth time today 
does the same old ground comp work for sloma processing?
that's the only SSS I've been having a bit of trouble with
particularly the boss
do I just slap someone like mylnar down and have him schwing it to death before it evolves to mmuch?
i picked first one so I don't have to deal with extra lane
summons is the easiest imo
wtf i have 7th acc 
i only use s2 if duck is around
but s1 is always main skill for me
@gleaming lodge oh ye how is d15 defender attempts 
hi what do you need help with

It was the fight with frostnova on h6-4
I beat it already but no 3 stars she got away
well do it with 3 stars now
Later when I'm stronger
nice
This is what happens when you don't feed Frostnova her Gravels 
well he has expensive Gravel
She's angy
Expensive Gravel
I got 2 f4 and one good f3 that died on St Iberia (I hate this boss)

borrow horn
Who's horn
Got it
@turbid badgehttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/658639480290279435/847053333621506098/Screenshot_20210526_180715.jpg
looking my alt acc h6-4 clear
is so nostalgic

I gave her s3 but idk she died somewhere before frostnova hit stage 2
st iberia the old man right?
fn hurts alot 
i love leizi rosa s3 combo
@turbid badge old start i use on main acc is SA on h6-4 at main
classic to clear
redeploy sa alot

4 acc*
smh
if i have 7
i might give up playing arknights

@turbid badge love when blaze is meta that time when chp6 released

now
ops do morbilion damage
abuse wallhack alot

@turbid badge pulling btw?
or skip
Points at E2 Aciddrop. Tell me about rarely used operator 
hi minus


Why every fucking game overlap updates 

Pgr moment
yes

is4
im both fucked
will u e2 her
who?
the Supporter
lol
cause i e2 saria
Necrosis when enemy apply it: YOU FUCKED
Necrosis when YOU apply it: YOU STILL FUCKED
Wtfart is4 talk
it should be allowed now right
what does this mean
ye tl pls
- Trait
Deals Arts damage, and able to deals Elemental Impairment - Talent 1
In IS4, attacks additionally deal a certain amount of Necrosis Damage
*Necrosis Damage (from allies): When the meter is full (Bosses has a longer meter), inflict certain portion of Weaken (ATK reduction; doesn't stack with other Weaken) and deals certain amount of Elemental Damage (has cooldown of certain amount of seconds)
Talent 2:
Increase ATK and ASPD
Skill 1
Next attack deals 100% of Arts damage, and an additional 50% ATK as Necrosis Damage
(Can hold 2 charges)
Skill 2
ASPD +25, can attack one additional target, every attack deals 25% of attack as Necrosis Damage
oh that's the ritualist thing
yea
teta so pro spy
hmmm

what does eblan do
Ebenholz is a caster
My current name is spoiler to event mechanics 
eblana arts explosion nuh uh
then annoying fire reed lit on phase 2
eblana is just annoyance

is just Kroos alter target 
how does the fire work
You stay in there, you get burn
you can put out fire using ops
but ye ur ops get burned
fire spread nearby reeds
so it's like nethersea brand 2.0
me wgen caster attack my ops on reed
burnt to crisp
Let me guess. Don't deploy operators on fire







boring candle strat