strategy

[lethal dragon]

Any healer works

[tidal sedge]

U know what people said if u don’t build Ng yet bring more healer.

[scenic kestrel]

i should ask if ng is worth to s2m3 and s3m3

[lethal dragon]

Just S3 M3

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720400010390536332/1123959610026512395/Screenrecorder-2023-06-29-18-23-09-140.mp4

Video by shara

In h10-3 to can place him on right side

[scenic kestrel]

damn he's better than i thought, I'll complete the stage later though

[lethal dragon]

Here
https://youtu.be/tdQfBF0DNM8

[lethal dragon]

https://imgur.com/gallery/bhtX50y

[turbid badge]

lmao

U have any built healers

u really dont need Ng

shes nice but whats a real neccesity here is either NTRK, Kal, Schwarz with Y,

they can just delete manfred

in a few skill activation skills

also penance solos left

if u have texas u can add some shenanigans

also please pay attention to the Necrosis bar

and gg ez win

bring some defenders for cannon bait

uhh

thats only outside his range

if ur gonna put lee on that tile hes just gonna be blocking him but then u can kill him when hes at top, but that depends if ur defenses and timings are good to hold off the waves of annoying manfre d aura childern

feels better to judt nuke him at the start

from halycon

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1105454666692694100.png?quality=lossless

Teta

[scenic kestrel]

wall of text moment

[lethal dragon]

What do you think can you spawn kill him

[glass monolith]

I don't think and yes

[foggy grove]

his scwarz is mod x

[turbid badge]

just borrow y smhsmh

[lethal dragon]

also teta the trick in lee stall is to make use of Manfred's range and Aspd

He will stay outside Lee's range

[sharp wadi]

Just clean those junk, you can even 1-1 with manfred

[turbid badge]

yeaa i just realized that lol

i said to the right cuz i saw that before but than again why need tank when just nuke

[timid schooner]

was expect to fight dusk lmao

[turbid badge]

lul

u fight her fanfic monster

[timid schooner]

she summon her pokemon

[scenic kestrel]

free, i choose you! (i know nothing about pokèmon)

[scenic kestrel]

i think thats the only mod she used to have, but now, her second mod synergieses way better with her s3 so that sucks for me (permanent account damage)

[lethal dragon]

Did you level 3 mod x

[glass monolith]

Free mechanic: Fuck around and find out

[hollow yarrow]

Just found out that Dorothy's mines can take control of those Gramaphone turrets. Makes life crazy easy just plomping her down and a bunch of mines to take all turrets for just a few dp each.

[lethal dragon]

Ppls used robin for that when Dorothy wasn't a thing

[hollow yarrow]

I figured.

Any mine will do. Just a happy accident when trying to complete Dossoles Water Gate

[lethal dragon]

Lol

[sly drift]

Magallan S1 was first to do it. It provides slow-bind and turret takeover. And the enemy just dies before leaving the turret range

That was fascinating to do

[glass monolith]

Take them over with Lunacub

[tidal sedge]

Need a guide with SSS Lt8 sloma boss

[lapis hornet]

nuke him at spawn with mlynar

keep picking the thing that boosts his stats instead of spawning stuff

there's your guide I accept paypal

[tidal sedge]

Why did I think use Irene is good idea?

[tidal sedge]

The blue small snail?

[glass monolith]

Uh... Wrong SSS, i think he is on rate up one where your entire hand turn into 20 summon 2 dogs with 1000 def (WHO MADE THIS SHIT?) things

[tidal sedge]

Ok problem is that I chosen Irene at start

Sloma performance

[tidal sedge]

Sloma processing platform

[lapis hornet]

sorry I never thought highly of irene main carry so haven't tried it

[tidal sedge]

The one u sent is Stoma Food Processing

[lapis hornet]

?? there's only 4 towers on en unless I'm behind the times?

[glass monolith]

My brain lags in random direction

[tidal sedge]

The boss is Stupid Blue Snail or whatever u call it

[glass monolith]

Not my fault 2 out of 4 SSS bosses is Stupid blue thingy

While CN having fun shit like Punch Out reference boss

[tidal sedge]

The map on the right

[scarlet fulcrum]

Irene dps "carry" Ideally here

[tidal sedge]

This one my guy

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats glebe

[vernal lion]

just Irene the boss lol

[tidal sedge]

I dont know what it called give me a break

I almost killed it last time

only a bit of A hp left

[vernal lion]

this boss is not even a threat

[tidal sedge]

Lemme try again

[scarlet fulcrum]

Boss just lazy af here, u can kill it before move

[glass monolith]

I FUCKING CALLED THAT ONE MAP FROM THE START

[tidal sedge]

is that possible?

[glass monolith]

[tidal sedge]

Well the name of the map like that not my fault though

[scarlet fulcrum]

yea

[vernal lion]

if you can take care 2 lanes, then the boss is nothing here

[tidal sedge]

so what is the blue small snail for?

[lapis hornet]

wtf minus mind reader?

wasn't that boss a shroom

[gleaming lodge]

Shroom slug

[vernal lion]

high def, use big dmg to kill it

[gleaming lodge]

Pretty sure Jaye has bonus damage against it

[tidal sedge]

glad I brought many Melee/Vanguard to stack

I have Mud and Pen too so we good

[glass monolith]

top lane will spam funny 1000 def slugs while bottom lane has - You guess it. Bully spam

[gleaming lodge]

That stage is fairly easy honestly

[tidal sedge]

I will let my gavial Bully it

[gleaming lodge]

The boss mechanic is really simple

And having high physical dmg isn't hard

[tidal sedge]

I have many physical dmg and art dmg

so what is good position to put Irenen on?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Exact mid beside boulder

Not that hard figuring irene placement tbh

[tidal sedge]

I did tried Irene on the middle last time and the boss almost dead

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nice

[tidal sedge]

well probably I lack of DPS

this game RNG has to be trolling me

[sly drift]

I hate the first 1 min of this map so much.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Once u get used to it u will be fine. No need to do solo carry tbh. Bet u have other gud dps as well

[tidal sedge]

it give me what I dont need in the moment I need it at most

[tidal sedge]

Like Gavial NTR SA Pozy etc

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah i can feel that, the reason ppl abusing supporter

[tidal sedge]

I didnt not this time my guy

This time I stack melee

and vanguard

[scarlet fulcrum]

Either A or B fine dpends on ur playstyle

Supporter

[tidal sedge]

well I have 6 vanguard 7 melee

so stack melee is good

[lapis hornet]

you can use a bunch of sup even if you go melee

[scarlet fulcrum]

Well yeah mlynarknights

[tidal sedge]

Why did I not use Mylnar at start?

[lapis hornet]

horn can spawn camp idr if you said you have

[tidal sedge]

I didnt have Horn

so the situation now is that bottom lane the judge laneholder top Lane 2 Centurian guard middle I am stacking Irene

[scarlet fulcrum]

Any brick also fine for flang, since irene will clear most of the time

[tidal sedge]

i am at 39/65 now

[scarlet fulcrum]

Do u aim for secret medal?

[tidal sedge]

So any suggestion for this one?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Personally I will place skalter more to right, she cover 3 ranged tiles

[tidal sedge]

why did I not think about this at start?

what about Mudrock?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Top in intersection

[tidal sedge]

hmm ok

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its fine u can still manage with those setup

sss nerfed anyway

[tidal sedge]

well I failed again

[scarlet fulcrum]

[tidal sedge]

well the problem always on the middle lane

[scarlet fulcrum]

Did u place irene beside ntrk?

[tidal sedge]

the boss one

yeah

ok this time i am gonna place Skalter to the right like u suggest me

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u want easy boss camp either horn or GG.
Irene ideally 5 vg stacks but u need stall boss in front of her with another op lol. With ur ops its better with ur current setup with irene on ntrk and horn deal with boss. No need to do irene carry setup

[tidal sedge]

ok

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nah ur setup already gud

Well skalter cover more in right indeed, so whynot

[tidal sedge]

done already did it it seem better

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh nice, now secret medal

I personally want to try penance 5 vg vs boss tbh

[tidal sedge]

bruh

[brisk pollen]

the gold chalice and other aspd relics

makes is2 100% more fun lmao

i could straight up afk after lucian got whooped

[gleaming lodge]

Man discovers ASPD +500
AKO, 2023, colourised

But yeah you're right, it's really busted

[brisk pollen]

nah just 1 gold chalice and 100+ ingots already make them bonkers

[gleaming lodge]

That's 140 yeah

So it more than doubles your DPS

Balanced

[brisk pollen]

remember the drone landing stage?

W destroys those balloons even without skills lmao

[gleaming lodge]

Bee colony ?

Yeah yeah
If you get golden calice the run is impossible to lose

That's how 3* only beat hard mode btw

[glass monolith]

Unless ending 2

[gleaming lodge]

Just get the ASPD up

[brisk pollen]

texalter barely scratch him

[gleaming lodge]

Pretty Pallas S1 still crushes bear

[glass monolith]

Meet the "WHO SAID 750 REGEN IS GOOD IDEA?"

[gleaming lodge]

Just get the encounter

[brisk pollen]

is2 is fucking pain before your very first clear

after that its a cakewalk

[glass monolith]

6 hp
Scissor event
Floor is sensitive

[gleaming lodge]

Sensitive doesn't apply to events anymore in IS#3

Which I find quite nice

[sly drift]

What's the most difficult aspect of is3 then

Out of control?

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

Pompeii emergency can also be a death sentence

Right side UFO mechanical menace is quite something as well

[glass monolith]

floor 3 emergency pompeii on his way to 420 no scope your hope for ending 2 run

[gleaming lodge]

It's floor 4

This map on floor 3 has eggs

[glass monolith]

same to me

[gleaming lodge]

I never got the emergency but I don't think it's too bad

[glass monolith]

range increase, he starts attacking knight from red box

[gleaming lodge]

Not the same because eggs can be stalled

[gleaming lodge]

Pretty sure it has global range ?
Or can hit nearly the entire map yeah

[leaden kraken]

tfw no KyoStinV for CC#11 day 13 🙂

[glass monolith]

Oh noes, anyway

[gleaming lodge]

https://bit.ly/REALFakeWavesHomework

Look at the dailies page

[tidal sedge]

So what is the plan of using Mylnar in Clebe mine

[gleaming lodge]

What do you mean ?

Just schwing schwing at everything

[tidal sedge]

I mean is there any instructions for it?

Like the position of him

[sonic willow]

time to brain

[leaden kraken]

Hm? O.o

[gleaming lodge]

Did you lose your user manual ?

Let me run it down for you

What is Mlynar good at doing ?

(be specific)

[tidal sedge]

True dmg and beat boss up

[tidal sedge]

This is the first time of me playing this map Clebe mine SSS.

Give me a break

[gleaming lodge]

True damage is not the biggest part of his kit
Is he single target ?

Nah I want you to understand how to use Mlynar

I'm not an automated answering machine

[tidal sedge]

OK OK

[gleaming lodge]

And you're not an automated button presser

[tidal sedge]

I did use him once before

[gleaming lodge]

Everyone can carbon copy, but that's not really playing the game

[tidal sedge]

In SSS mode

[gleaming lodge]

So
Generally
Where do you want to place Mlynar ?
SSS or not

[tidal sedge]

Sss lt8 Clebe mine map blue Snail

Like the center lane of that level

[gleaming lodge]

No

Well

Yes

But that's not what I asked

[tidal sedge]

U really think I can copy Strat I can’t

[gleaming lodge]

Do you want Mlynar to be dealing with the boss ?
Or with the waves ?
Given his multi-target nature, I would say he is better against waves

[tidal sedge]

I want him to deal with the boss

[gleaming lodge]

You want "consistent" damage against the boss, like Nearl S1 I guess

[gleaming lodge]

Sorry what do you mean by that ?

Well, if you want him to deal with the boss, what positions are you considering, there really isn't a lot of choice

[tidal sedge]

I don’t have the same unit but I can do something similar isn’t that what u asked before?

[gleaming lodge]

Same unit ?
What unite ?
Nearl alter was an example of permanent damage

Yeah yeah exactly
Don't copy
Understand and adapt

[tidal sedge]

I did have NTR

[gleaming lodge]

That will make you a good player, and allow you to have fun (= not losing your hair on every stage)

[cosmic thicket]

Uh

Why are you keeping your +2 pumps in hand

[gleaming lodge]

Ok
Isn't that already winning ?

[glass monolith]

From my understanding he god knows how threw that

[foggy grove]

boss will break into center

ntr ded

is what i'm seeing

[cosmic thicket]

Yeah

[gleaming lodge]

Well,
If the boss is scaring you
What big damage dealer do you have ? (One that can be strengthened by the double stack devices you have)

[sly drift]

Can't you just irene (vg 5) + healer this map. Did it almost everytime I do glebe and no problem

[eager gate]

some sort of variance in my auto clear of red tickets leads to my Penance either dying or living with straight up 30% hp
And I can't realize what does it, I have no rng units

[gleaming lodge]

S3 masteries leading to less charge ?

[gleaming lodge]

Pretty sure Irene with 4 guards destroys the boss

[eager gate]

nah I use s2 here and I didn't master it

[foggy grove]

why are you using s2

eh wait nvm

[eager gate]

why would I use s3 on red ticket stage

[gleaming lodge]

Because why not

[foggy grove]

it's just diff conversation

[eager gate]

makes sens

[gleaming lodge]

Does S2 reduce poison haze damage ?
It shouldn't right ?

[sly drift]

I would rather have short cd to destroy all lane too every 10s than huge attack but long ass cd.

[tribal drum]

Penance s2 still able to do dmg to Last Knight boss (IS3) even if she's frozen?

[foggy grove]

irene does and he has 2 device
it's easy win

[gleaming lodge]

Against the boss
Just Irene dueling the boss would gain more from raw ATK

[eager gate]

it charges faster and gives more shields from trash

[sly drift]

I think the only problem with this map is the first 1 minute.

As the snails have high def and you must go art dmg first

And they just won't stop coming

[tidal sedge]

First minute np my problem boss minute

[sly drift]

It usually easier in end game sss. Which part you are exactly struggling of, while you have irene already.

And 2 devices

[tidal sedge]

I did have 2 devices

[gleaming lodge]

What are you using to kill the boss ?

Ideally you want to start damaging it early and kill it before it moves

[tidal sedge]

I didnt have GG or Horn

So

I used Irene

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

That works

Did you win or not ?

Or is your game still on pause ?

[soft crystal]

Glebe boss didnt feel threatening enough to take it out before it moved

You can wait quite a but

Bit

[sharp wadi]

Skill issue

[west rover]

anyone help 10-12 adverse enviorment

these are my ops

[sharp wadi]

You just block top two lane holders at red, blue aoe units chalter works just spam 🐌 at top to clear
Yellow mudrock orange gg
That doodle at right just laevatain

[sharp wadi]

https://youtu.be/-9qQV0FqHh4
You can use kal + tex2 seem monke brain enough

[west rover]

i want farmable

[sharp wadi]

Show me everything, not only in squad

[west rover]

its not only in squad though??

my other ops are too low lvl either way

[sharp wadi]

Also can't you farm standard?, forget about adverse clear if you doesn't have enough ops to try hard

[sharp wadi]

That I can see the other one you should build

[gleaming mural]

are there any masteries on any of those ops

[west rover]

pozy, silverash, nightinggale, myrtle,mostima, all have m3 on their main skills and pallas, skalter, m2 so a lot yes

[gleaming mural]

texas is sl7 yes?

[west rover]

texas is s2m3 and s3m3

[gleaming mural]

ah nice

alright I'll see if I can cook something

[west rover]

are the drop rates the same on standard and adverse

[west rover]

alright thanks

[gleaming mural]

yes drop rates are the same

[west rover]

oh ok

[gleaming mural]

so you can borrow an ops on adverse

if that's what you want to do

[west rover]

yeah thats fine

[gleaming mural]

chalter should destroy this stage no problem

and you can deal with the cars with texas

just make sure to bait the cannon shots

[west rover]

i did standard

i also did adverse

[sharp wadi]

That's it

[sonic willow]

they said they want to farm 💀 all people do is suggest borrow

[scarlet ledge]

sus

[tidal sedge]

wdym?

[scarlet ledge]

[foggy grove]

if it works

[tidal sedge]

Honest advice for SSS always bring Shinning and Borrow Uncle

[foggy grove]

all those useless sniper and caster

[autumn loom]

Fr

[tidal sedge]

idk why i Brought those anymore XD

well reason kinda dumb because I want to assist the other lane on the last level

[little yacht]

I just beat Big Sad Lock on my first try with a ragtag team and a borrowed Pozy

I feel the biggest threat was the big aoe attack the boss did

wiped my whole team the first time round but I was able to stall a bit until I could deploy pozy again

[tidal sedge]

oh that not the biggest threat here in this entire game my guy

Wait until u play Jt8-3, 11-19

[little yacht]

oh sorry, I meant the boss' biggest threat

from my first experience, the big aoe attack can really wipe out your team like it did on me

[tidal sedge]

well u know what is big AOE is? well Talulah fire in JT8-3 whenever u defeat her both phase

[little yacht]

I haven't played ep8 yet so I can't tell you

[tidal sedge]

Well just imagine simple like this all of lane has fireball flying around

[little yacht]

I wonder if schwarz is better than pozy for BSL since she deals dmg in slow big hits

[tidal sedge]

Pozy is better because of flexible

her mod is something make her better

[cosmic thicket]

pozy if you have good medics to bring to the stage and schwarz if you don't imo

BSL has 300K HP not counting any modifiers so pozy definitely can't 1-cycle without help (and schwarz can't either but at least there's much less healing pressure)

[autumn loom]

...

[cosmic thicket]

lmao

[cyan gorge]

H8-4 and h11-4*

[tidal sedge]

ok so u want answer like from pozy user and Schwarz less perspective I prefer Pozy over Schwarz because some reason I meantioned before

[tidal sedge]

I still didnt do h11 stage and H8-4

[little yacht]

yeah pozy straight up died before I can activate ptilopsis skill

[tidal sedge]

u have skill issue my guy

[cyan gorge]

[tidal sedge]

Nice timing, am I supposed to stall this guy's phase 2??

[little yacht]

ok that's just a bit rude don't you think

[sonic willow]

you can just kill

texas s2 shreds

[tidal sedge]

Ah I took S3

[cyan gorge]

You can stall indefinitely with 2 frds constantly replacing each other with medics

[tidal sedge]

it is kinda normal in here

[tidal sedge]

What's frds

Defenders?

[cyan gorge]

Fast redeploy

Gravel, Texalter, etc

[tidal sedge]

well arent u supposed to stall him at Canta postion?

[cosmic thicket]

that doesn't mean it's right

[tidal sedge]

Gravel is pretty tanky yeah

Why u let him so near Blue boix

[little yacht]

idk but from my experience it's just you here

[tidal sedge]

Everyone died that's why

[tidal sedge]

Well u have stall him at canta position

[cosmic thicket]

You don't have to

[tidal sedge]

Both phases?

[tidal sedge]

U have to stall him in that position

Like I killed his phase 1 with Mlynar when he spawned then retreated him

u have to use his delay action

[frigid kite]

@tidal sedge with Skalter, Hoshiguma can stall him

And then just use Mlynar to kill him

Just use Ptilopsis skill when he jumps

[tidal sedge]

Well with that much power kill the big Steam Knight u can

[frigid kite]

And thats it

[tidal sedge]

I'll try that, ty

[cyan gorge]

So because other people are toxic means you’re justified to be just as toxic?

[frigid kite]

Disclaimer: Use skill issue as a joke not as a toxic behavior

[tidal sedge]

Ok u win

[scarlet ledge]

pretty normal

ur in strategy

[frigid kite]

He is a strategist

[little yacht]

so strategy is a pretty toxic place, noted

[scarlet ledge]

yes

what stage he/she doing and ops?

[frigid kite]

Idk lol

[scarlet ledge]

oh bsl

ngl that boss is batshit insane

if u have shitty ops for dealing it

and no suicide note

but ye thats boss is not a biggest threat

see ya at chp12

[tidal sedge]

It was an overkill

[scarlet ledge]

oh steamknight? @tidal sedge

[tidal sedge]

wait we didnt have chapter 12 yet.

[scarlet ledge]

[frigid kite]

Indeed, we don't have Ines yet sadly

[scarlet ledge]

@frigid kite i didnt bother touching h12-4

[tidal sedge]

Yeah, GG killed all the trash. Then just dropped Passenger, Texas and Mlynar on him

[scarlet ledge]

fucking shit insane

[scarlet ledge]

grats

have fun on h stage if u want

[tidal sedge]

Now h stages..

I don't wanna play h11-4

well why people said u should take goldenglow over Sutr honestly why?

[scarlet ledge]

ngl my gg just wipe steamknights like nothing

[tidal sedge]

stage already kind of hard at h11-1

[frigid kite]

Is it pretty hard? I usually don't spoil h stages until they happen

[scarlet ledge]

when i did it on cn

[little yacht]

I did have suicide note but it was still pretty hard. The map pretty much amounted to a dps check and I had no way to reach it without pozy

[scarlet ledge]

just imagine 5 boss clone

thats all i can say

[tidal sedge]

oh i dont remember the boss can clone

[scarlet ledge]

boss phys and heal check

heal check if no suicide note

dont go for arts unless u have ifrit to lower its resistant.

[tidal sedge]

I don't have Surtr

[tidal sedge]

I dont say u take Sutr I am saying people in general.

It's been a while since we got her in any Standard banner?

well u kinda have to wait a year to have her again

Ufff

right now all cert probably for Bagpipe and Kaltist

[scarlet ledge]

u play jp?

[tidal sedge]

how did u know?

[scarlet ledge]

i saw ur sc duh

[tidal sedge]

What sc?

[scarlet ledge]

screenshot

[tidal sedge]

Well yes

[scarlet ledge]

[tidal sedge]

Thx for it I have free x10 pull

[scarlet ledge]

real

nice acc

can i add u?

[tidal sedge]

U played Jp too?

[scarlet ledge]

i play en, jp and cn

[tidal sedge]

Oh my goodness why u played it in 3 version

[scarlet ledge]

idk just insanity

[tidal sedge]

Or we can say u boring and don’t have anything to do?

[scarlet ledge]

ngl 1 reason

is niche gameplay

jp acc i play is 4★ only

now switching to 5★

[tidal sedge]

I used to play global but I bored and start over in Jp.

[scarlet ledge]

ur jp id?

[tidal sedge]

One moment

Schwerin how did u bypass the id cn check?

[scarlet ledge]

oh just ID

on bilibili registration

u can passport too

but ye need to send info

[tidal sedge]

Cover#8247

[scarlet ledge]

oh

i mean ign

i just called it id im dum

accept me @tidal sedge

ty

[tidal sedge]

Your 1621?

[scarlet ledge]

yes

[tidal sedge]

Accept

[scarlet ledge]

pog

[tidal sedge]

Be honest how many Jp id u gonna see in friend ID?

Probably extremely few of it

[scarlet ledge]

dont expect 6★ supp on me

[tidal sedge]

I don’t

[scarlet ledge]

only 6 6★ is e2 on this acc

42 6★ is e0

[tidal sedge]

I have other friends too just in case I need to borrrow something to deal with event and CC

[scarlet ledge]

but ye if u need 4★ supp

just ping me

[tidal sedge]

OK

[scarlet ledge]

all e2 max

[tidal sedge]

So u have yt channel?

[scarlet ledge]

ye

[tidal sedge]

Same as your name?

[scarlet ledge]

yep Schwertleite

[tidal sedge]

The one has pink fluffy cat?

[scarlet ledge]

slime cat?

[tidal sedge]

Idk it looks like it

[scarlet ledge]

ya pink

[tidal sedge]

Pink slime cat

OK got it

[scarlet ledge]

yep

dont expect anything

[tidal sedge]

I don’t

[scarlet ledge]

last cc daily is near

[tidal sedge]

Because I don’t expect too much

[scarlet ledge]

back to tundra mines

[tidal sedge]

Because I knew a friend was YouTuber once before and he quited so I don’t have any much high expectations on any new YouTuber

[scarlet ledge]

[tidal sedge]

Well the chat in Strat kinda dead anyway.

[scarlet ledge]

its always ded

[tidal sedge]

Hopefully mod don’t come and bonk us

Who is your 2 favorite ops?

[scarlet ledge]

back to strat convo

oh ye how is sss for u?

uncle strat already revolved it

[tidal sedge]

Fine 3 map done dcheck

[tidal sedge]

Well thx for your suggestion and I started over and overcome it

[scarlet ledge]

i still hate sss

[tidal sedge]

Well same the only reason I did SSS because I am boring

[scarlet ledge]

i only played it cause of new map for boss info and hidden medal

[tidal sedge]

I prepare all chip materials for Bagpipe later

[scarlet ledge]

oh nice

prio s3

[tidal sedge]

Yea

So I don’t have to stuggle with Vanguard anymore

[scarlet ledge]

nice

[tidal sedge]

Last top op give me Siege

[scarlet ledge]

what ur vgs anyway?

[tidal sedge]

Well Fang Courier Siege Myrtle and Texas plume

[scarlet ledge]

oh

at least u can flagpipe better when u e2 bgp

[tidal sedge]

Well so here is my plan I am gonna buy Bagpipe and Kaltist the

I have like enough cert to buy like 3 of them

[scarlet ledge]

who i raised there?

to e2

[tidal sedge]

None I am about to raise Siege. Most of my avg are e1 60 and then Bagpipe new come

[scarlet ledge]

ye raised siege, siege is fine its just her kit is very old

1 year old op

too much competition on vgs at new ops

[tidal sedge]

Actually I just got her about 2 weeks ago

[scarlet ledge]

oh

[tidal sedge]

I told u I got it from tag

[scarlet ledge]

u can do s2m1 for her if u cared about ur mats

[tidal sedge]

At that time I still dealt with building Penance

[scarlet ledge]

@tidal sedge btw when bgp e2 is done, do myrtle s1m3 cause she benefitted on bgp sp talent for vgs

[tidal sedge]

Ok

Cannot wait to get Bagpipe

[scarlet ledge]

gl

how far u in story?

[tidal sedge]

Already done chapter 11

Only H stage left

I played chapter 11 right after it released

[scarlet ledge]

worry about h11-1 and h11-4

[tidal sedge]

I might have to wait for a while

[glass monolith]

h11-1 is just evil

[worthy ermine]

h11-1 is nothing compared to h11-4

that stage is literally just borrow chalter

h11-4 is something else

you die to the fucking dogs

the dogs

anyhow, how do i beat h8-4

i dislike bosses that punish you for killing them too fast

mephisto and talulah

perhaps i can kill her second phase before ng's skill runs out

[tidal sedge]

I might need Kal and Bag to get to work on this level

[worthy ermine]

gravel helps a lot baiting the poison

[tidal sedge]

Yeah problem in H11 is the caster

[gentle finch]

H11-1 took me longer

[cyan gorge]

Bring NG and a lot of bodies

[mossy geode]

fast redeploys, nightingale, and skalter s1 make it a lot more bearable

[worthy ermine]

i should just send my roster

[scarlet ledge]

dogs? lmao

i just use fucking dadga on dogs

[scarlet ledge]

h8-4 is just frd and ng

u can tactician like beanstalk or vigil for tanking fireballs

or defender like mudrock

specter for immortality

lots of option

at this year h8-4 is ajoke

[scarlet fulcrum]

Real chad tanking fireballs with durin rng

[worthy ermine]

you see

im very stubborn

to this day my gravel is still e0level1

so that wont work

ill have to sacrifice my characters to the blood god

if i borrow nightingale i wont be able to stall

if i borrow saria i wont survive the fireball wave

[frigid kite]

You can stall with guard amiya

[light flame]

I mean the frd just baits talulah fire

but also why tho

[vital arrow]

Actually it still works since her role is to just eat a burn and die

She can be lv 0 and it won't matter at all

[worthy ermine]

shes gonna die in 1 fireball

[vital arrow]

You use NG for that, not gravel

[worthy ermine]

whats her purpose then

[vital arrow]

Eat the burning breaths

[worthy ermine]

is it 2 ignites or 1

[vital arrow]

2 per ignite

[worthy ermine]

ic

[vital arrow]

And her blocker is always burning

And her ignite has lower cooldown that the duration

So she'll usually have 4-5 ops burning

[worthy ermine]

what am i supposed to do in that situation

[vital arrow]

Unless ofc you bait them

It's really just the civilians

[worthy ermine]

yes i know

if i have the ability to nuke her and get to the second fireball phase before ng's skill expires i will

but idk if its gonna last that long

[vital arrow]

You just stall her

[worthy ermine]

with?

[vital arrow]

Like any good hp tank and some medics

She deals true damage so you just need a thick tank

[worthy ermine]

wasnt it arts dmg

[vital arrow]

No?

That's her burn and explosion

[worthy ermine]

oh

[vital arrow]

Her attacks are true damage

[worthy ermine]

no way quartz usage

real

idk if i have a high hp character

mlynar cant block and penance cant be healed

[vital arrow]

Apparently the burn is also true damage

I think I used spalter for her

[worthy ermine]

alright i should probably just force her to skip second phase

ill nuke her before ng expires

[vital arrow]

Well the problem is her invincibility takes a year to finish

[worthy ermine]

how much

[vital arrow]

And I doubt you can survive the first wave without NG S3

[gleaming lodge]

Pretty sure any defender can tank

[vital arrow]

It lasts for like 20s or something

[worthy ermine]

💀

how much does ng last

[vital arrow]

Oh 15s

[worthy ermine]

wait what

[vital arrow]

NG S3 is 60s

[gleaming lodge]

60s

For NG

[worthy ermine]

oh

ok that seems doable

[gleaming lodge]

Enjoy the suffering ig

[vital arrow]

Good luck killing phase 2 in 45s

[gleaming lodge]

You can stall pretty easily

[vital arrow]

Well no you need to be faster than that

[worthy ermine]

surtr texas mlynar should be enough

[vital arrow]

Haha

[worthy ermine]

it worked for mephisto

[vital arrow]

She has damage reduction

Lugia only has thick res

[gleaming lodge]

If you bait burning breath you can kill her quickly yeah

[vital arrow]

Bait

mlynar

Yeah right

[worthy ermine]

i forgot about that

[vital arrow]

50% less damage received from burning targets

[worthy ermine]

i used him in jt-3 to have one less redeploy to worry about

[vital arrow]

Ig you can just use lumen

And cleanse off the burn

[worthy ermine]

dont have

[vital arrow]

Sadge

Oh the fire wave lasts for 28s

RIP

[worthy ermine]

fuck me ig

i hate stalling

[vital arrow]

So you need to kill her in 17s

[worthy ermine]

i dont think ive ever stalled in this game

[vital arrow]

Be glad you never experienced CC3

[gleaming lodge]

Nah Kerf come on

Cinder was so cool

[vital arrow]

Cinder was cool yeah

Pls come back

[gleaming lodge]

The basic idea of stalling is
You have more HPS than they have DPS

Instead we have this cringe map called fake waved

Imagine unblockable enemies

[worthy ermine]

my ops get one shot anyway so stalling never works

[gleaming lodge]

*needed

Stalling always works

In fact it is often the most effective strategy

[vital arrow]

Stalling always works

[worthy ermine]

stall patriot

[vital arrow]

You can

[gleaming lodge]

Well, often if we talk about max risk

[vital arrow]

Theres the dusk 30s infinite stall, then eunectes, then specter

[gleaming lodge]

Patrick p1 is definitely stallable

[worthy ermine]

stall max cc12 red

[gleaming lodge]

Bruh

[vital arrow]

Cc12 was cleared by stall

[gleaming lodge]

Have you seen the max risk clear ?

[worthy ermine]

yes

[gleaming lodge]

It is literally a stall

[worthy ermine]

gladia and mostima

i know

but you cant block him

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah
Stalling =//= blocking

[vital arrow]

It's still stalling

[worthy ermine]

how do you stall patriot then

[vital arrow]

You slow him down

He walks slower than a slug

Not immune to levitate or bind

And stops for like 30s in 4 spots

He already stalled himself

[worthy ermine]

lol

[gleaming lodge]

You can still tank him btw

And iirc Weedy S1 with some ASPD stuff can perma stunlock

@tough bison right ?

iirc you were the one doing that

[worthy ermine]

idk im impatient

i get annoyed when i spend 10 minutes on a stage and end up dying anyway

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah well I get impatient when I try to burst something but am missing 10% damage

[tough bison]

It's not aspd, it's additional control effects. But you can also just tank him

[tough bison]

He has trouble living longer than 1 min 30 seconds in p1, and p2 is a joke compared to p1.

[sharp wadi]

Who blocks that just push and pull, that's still called stalling

If you impatient just go maxed out pusher +maxing pot
Weedy, FEater, cliffheart,gladia

Untill you go different strat

[vernal lion]

[turbid badge]

typhon 10 ammo on s3

i think sl7 idk if these things do m3

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh reworked SSS confirmed, next must be reed alter

More like nerfed af SSS qol for most ppl

[hollow yarrow]

In JT8-3, will Talulah always use 'Burning Breath' every 19 secs, regardless of what's going on? ie. if she's stalled, in the middle of 1v1'ing an op?

[steep tartan]

i think she uses it on the two last deployed ops

so when i did it i put down gravel and courier in intervals and she used it on them

i could be wrong idk

[scarlet fulcrum]

Her slash also causing burn

[hollow yarrow]

Yeah, that bit i'm okay with. I'm just getting thrown by the timings.

[scarlet fulcrum]

So last deployed ops

[hollow yarrow]

I can't tell if some of the things I'm doing are affecting the timings she uses to cast Burning Breath, or if it's on some global clock for the mission?

[scarlet fulcrum]

If its stalled then barely no change 🤏

[hollow yarrow]

Okay, thanks.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also note burn breath will chained to ops in adjacent tile at the time it explode. And already affected ops will not targeted by burn breath

[hollow yarrow]

Yeah. Already learned that the hard way. She also ignores the last 2 deployed rule when you try Mlynar, presumably because his taunt overrides her choice in targeting

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yep

[hollow yarrow]

Just slowly trying to do it without looking up guides. It's reeeeal slow going... Haha. Thanks again

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

teach!!!??

[hollow yarrow]

Hardly praiseworthy. I'm just a stubborn fool

[steep tartan]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Learn it hard way huh, gl then. Pretty shrimple once u get used to it 👍

[scarlet ledge]

@scarlet fulcrum cc12 hardly have free tags

u will get forced to choose tags

[hollow yarrow]

Can I just say, your comments are making me feel like this is more of challenge than I thought... lmao

[turbid badge]

so pro

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah indeed, if u look at mobs. If u go phys route seems reasonably free in r18

[turbid badge]

propeo

[weak gazelle]

learn by doing is a good experience

[scarlet fulcrum]

DW, i believe in you

[scarlet ledge]

and ofc u will get forced to choose weebs tag

[turbid badge]

its okay

[scarlet fulcrum]

ah yeah dang

[turbid badge]

its not bad

just mostima him

Ez clap!

[scarlet ledge]

bro squad tag is not fine

[scarlet fulcrum]

well if mostima became bear

[scarlet ledge]

5 deployment limit or 7 squad size

7 squad size is easy if u have the ops for it

[turbid badge]

real

[scarlet ledge]

i know en will prep r18 then copy anyway

[scarlet fulcrum]

Will u go with stall strat? not that bad like other CC tbh

[scarlet ledge]

ill go burst

[foggy grove]

so pro

[scarlet ledge]

like i did on r18 cc12 cn

[lapis hornet]

copying takes skill smh

that's why I couldn't do 18 smh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Indeed i cant do retreat ops thing during CC10 with my potato phone. Then went with unga bunga strat. Trully skill issue

[foggy grove]

my finger is too slow for retreat canon thing

[lapis hornet]

yeah same I don't even bother with it

[foggy grove]

i always let them blow up

[lapis hornet]

cc is so much easier on pc

[turbid badge]

oh the suzu strat?

[lapis hornet]

like holy shit

[turbid badge]

lok same

[lapis hornet]

but i hate playing ak on pc so

[turbid badge]

I really didnt want to do the 10 frame retreat thing

[lapis hornet]

wdym 10 frame

it's like 2 frames

[scarlet fulcrum]

well in 30fps phone its literally BS

[turbid badge]

Idk its really low

[lapis hornet]

10 frames actually pretty forgiving

[turbid badge]

i remember doing it and just taking pics of the operator dieing

😂😂

[scarlet fulcrum]

10 frame u can sleep with it yea

🫂

[turbid badge]

1-2 frames i think

best picture

[scarlet fulcrum]

Well in 30fps phone when u try it, its like having heart attack

[tidal sedge]

dont abuse Bagpipe like that

[gleaming lodge]

🥔

[glass monolith]

Shopotato ingame announcement

Man my gold certs stockpile took fatal hit this year

Mudmud, Archetto, Ceobe, Skadi and i don't really have reason to pass Bagpepe

[gleaming lodge]

That's some interesting choices mate

[minor willow]

what's triangle thing floating around my operators on SSS?

[latent harness]

what's a better skill for penance in sss, s2 or s3?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Full stacked ops

[eager gate]

Any ideas on how could one potentially beat the dockworker def -50atk and -75dp team of 7 challenges together

[gleaming lodge]

Small triangle = operator has a stack
Big triangle = full stack

[gleaming lodge]

Arts damage ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yeah, never noticed the smaller one

[scarlet ledge]

pro

oh ye reworked sss is coming

much better

[scarlet fulcrum]

Indeed

[scarlet ledge]

only 6 floor

[scarlet fulcrum]

No more excuse

[gleaming lodge]

That comes from my pre-nerf Defknights attempts on Toron mine....

[scarlet ledge]

im gonna play it

just for boss info

then dip out

[scarlet fulcrum]

[eager gate]

This to be exact
I understand that arts damage I'm not that dumb, but who should I try using? It's not like I can pull out a passenger here and not die before 3 dp naturally generates
3 slots are reserved for vg, just 4 left for the whole map and these boys are fat I'll need like 2 casters

[gleaming lodge]

🤝

[scarlet fulcrum]

6 floor seems nice for nicheknights, i hope so

[glass monolith]

Damn now i need to come up with 20 operators teams instead 14

[scarlet fulcrum]

Insert more p*t of greed 🛌

[weak gazelle]

i think i can accept 6 floor sss
knowing how tedious that game mode is, make grinding mod mats more faster and simpler

[latent monolith]

Why pick these risks specifically?

Those are like most of the bad risks

[eager gate]

I was looking to save time by doing 2 at once and this shit poked at my pride so now I'm looking to do em both instead of separately

[sonic willow]

You can use caster core

[foggy grove]

passenger and gnosus easy

[timid schooner]

better call penance

time for adverse i guess

[tidal sedge]

Aren’t u supposed to play adverse immediately?

[gleaming lodge]

You can

[glass monolith]

Boss stage on adverse literally easier, boss is separated from trash so he doesn't get in way of dealing with it, and no fucking leeches

[deft nest]

I'm a beginner, and I have a quick question: is there any way that allied operators can buff other operators (healers or supports) and that some enemies can debuff operators?

And if there is, is there any way I can see their current buffs and debuffs?

[balmy halo]

for buffs generally the subclass of "bards" under supporters have buffs, and for debuffs "hexers" under supporter class have them. a lot of other ops got debuffs and buffs tho

[deft nest]

They can only buff themselves, right?

Or they can buff other surrounding operators too?

[foggy grove]

bard can buff surrounding ops

but eh don't worry about buff and debuff early on

they are kinda not that useful early on

[deft nest]

For example, I saw that Hibiscus' first skill gives "+x% ATK", who is that buff appliable for?

[foggy grove]

for her

since her heal based on her atk

[deft nest]

Ohhhh

I got it now

Thanks!

[weary perch]

Did you all used Mlynar on the last daily map?

[glass monolith]

Goldenglow

[gleaming lodge]

No ?

I don't have him lmao

Plus where ?

[glass monolith]

I used Eunectes S3 to stall hyper harpoon dudes

If you can call this execution the stall

[weary perch]

Okay. Just asking because he looks like the MVP on this map, Singlehandedly taking out the drone and helping with one of the two last enemies.

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

Mlynar is strong

Nice discovery

[glass monolith]

Well 7 operators limit, so big guns day

[weary perch]

Oh you prabably used Pozy on the drone yes?

[glass monolith]

Nope, Fia and Goldenglow spawnkill

only leak is me forgetting 2 block dude

He zoomed by Flametail with inactive skill

[gleaming lodge]

Is this max risk roadblocks?

[glass monolith]

Yes, today max risk is all go bottom

[gleaming lodge]

Hummm
Ok
Thanks

[weary perch]

yeah that dude does stay in one tile for a few seconds, I used horn S3 to bombard him before he moved. Then Horn blocked the last one.

[tidal sedge]

Will the SSS update be any good??

[glass monolith]

First civilians won't die unless you ignore range increased jetpacks
Second pack of civilians will face tank like 3 drone shots and die (they can survive 4 but will get hit by shit in red boxes)

[weary perch]

One civilian had a sliver of life left but he ran away from the drone so fast. lol.

[glass monolith]

i didn't feed drone anything for it to not attack civilians

[weary perch]

Hopefully I can get Goldenglow someday so I can practice strategies like yours.

[glass monolith]

Goldenglow pros: Global range fiesta.
Goldenglow cons: Drone explosion rng (when it is not in your favour just because)

[weary perch]

[scarlet ledge]

yes i used him

[latent anvil]

pro

[glass monolith]

Drone died out of pity?

[foggy grove]

oh i should ditch sham for gg

[gleaming lodge]

Where is Mlynar

[scarlet ledge]

watching

[gleaming lodge]

[scarlet ledge]

far away

hi squid, how is cc last daily

[gleaming lodge]

Wait that's the last daily ?

I think I missed 4
No medal for me

I'll try to low op defknights in a few hours
But I'm at work rn

[scarlet ledge]

[glass monolith]

low op enemy hp 3 squad limit 7

[gleaming lodge]

Squad limit is a free risk when doing low op

[scarlet ledge]

real

[glass monolith]

I wonder if one of future POs will troll us with squad limit 1 but -100% redeploy

[gleaming lodge]

What ?

That sounds stupid

[cosmic thicket]

texalter s3/yato alter s3 micro be like

[weary perch]

Then you'd better find a friend with a max pot Texalter

[glass monolith]

PO0 had several fun dailies, out of note:

Deploy limit 1
200 DP, DP don't regen, vanguards cost x4, vanguards hp -99%, vanguards SP up

[foggy grove]

dog trying his best

[cosmic thicket]

ah yes "fuck you vanguard"

[gleaming lodge]

Oh true

I guess it could happen then

[weary perch]

the second to the last map was -75% DP regen. It was almost like no regen at all.

[cosmic thicket]

nah squad limit 1 insta redeploy isn't happening bc texalter and yato alter exist

[gleaming lodge]

DP down 3 is pretty different from "no DP regen"

[cosmic thicket]

hell even phantom s3 spam is somewhat possible

[scarlet ledge]

daily fun

perma shit

[weary perch]

yeah but it's as close as we got. Felt it when staring at counter waiting for enough DP to bring out more ops.

[cosmic thicket]

i feel like perma just got a lot of flak from "FOUR MILLION HP???????????"

[glass monolith]

Perma is Ceobe module showcase

[scarlet ledge]

bro

i kileld two robots for 2 hrs

just to get 600 pts

[weary perch]

that's why I do the perm at 1st-2nd day and forget about it except for the next week challenges.

[glass monolith]

Unofficial server which hacked all operators to have capped attack speed and global ranges failed to kill "max risk" Dorothy

[foggy grove]

is it that bad
i heard if you just wait for a few days,it's quite okay

[opal kiln]

if u don't go for 600 day 1 it's not that bad

[glass monolith]

or you know. Ceobe

[cosmic thicket]

by the end of the event you can get 600 points with low end squad apparently

[scarlet ledge]

later risk added

its easier to 600 pts

[weary perch]

For the robots, just tape a stylus to an oscillating electric fan and set it against your phone.

[scarlet ledge]

i just stared for 2 hrs when i cleared 600 pts on day 4 i think

[foggy grove]

i'll rather wait unless there is downside of waiting

2 hours is

[scarlet ledge]

im losing my sanity just cycling the dps

[worthy ermine]

ok so

[glass monolith]

Or you one of those Mlynar + Shamare + Skalter + Chalter boys?

[gleaming lodge]

Annihilation...

[worthy ermine]

progress in h8-4

blaze is able to stall talulah but i get killed by the red rocks she summons, mlynar will need to be outside ng's range in order to kill atleast 3 of them but because he has taunt he ends up dying

i managed to kill talulah before the red crystals spawned but nightingale skill was on cooldown

what do

[glass monolith]

The moment i realized i can kill Talubruh before she summons red rock, i did exactly that

[gleaming lodge]

wow rude
No bully Talulove

[worthy ermine]

i mean i can kill her before she even does her second ignite but the problem is that i cant survive the fireball wave without ng

[cosmic thicket]

NG/lumen was enough for me when i did it

[worthy ermine]

i dont have lumen

[cosmic thicket]

basically letting lumen s3 discharge all his ammo during a wave

oh

[gleaming lodge]

Do you need to survive the second fireball wave ?
IIRC you can just retreat

[worthy ermine]

the civilians.

[gleaming lodge]

Oh wait

[glass monolith]

i don't recall how exactly my cursed H8-4 lived, i am sure i didn't stall for CDs

[gleaming lodge]

My bad
I thought we were talking about JT8-3

[cosmic thicket]

what's your squad?

[worthy ermine]

ill send in a min

even if i dont burst her down she dies before ng gets her skill back

i could just not use thorns to kill her or use a defender but i dont have one lol

[glass monolith]

First wave ptilo S2, then replace with NG S3, while bottom 2 lanes held by sus and warf team up or something

I just call random stuff out i don't even recall deploy limit on map

[worthy ermine]

i need ng's cage for bottom lane

[glass monolith]

Blaze Surtr sacrifice for 1 lane

(I am good at cursed strategy)

[worthy ermine]

who do i use to stall talulah then

[glass monolith]

Hm.... How long Saga lasts?

Oh wait Guard bnuuy

[worthy ermine]

saga's regen thing is phys dodge not arts

she dies in like 2 hits

i use her to clear the first wave and help thorns charge the skill

ill try to stall with cuora or something

but sure ill try ptilo first wave and ng second

even though she's gonna die probably

[sonic willow]

Borrow NG

Stack 3 medics on amiya

[atomic monolith]

Is cutter really that useful?

Off wrong chat Sorry

[cyan gorge]

Cutter good

[worthy ermine]

did not work

stalling sucks

i dont wanna deal with the red crystals

ok

new strat

i kill murder her as fast as i can

uh

[latent monolith]

Probably wait for ng to come back before nuking her

[worthy ermine]

but that means the crystals will spawn

[latent monolith]

Would you rather deal with crystals you can deploy frds and stuff on or the fireballs

[worthy ermine]

neither

why am i doing this stage

im suffering

[foggy grove]

why is the crystal a problem?

[cosmic thicket]

Why is gummy in your squad

[worthy ermine]

i dont have silverash

mlynar taunt gets in the way

ill try again

[gleaming lodge]

Don't use Mlynar then ?

[worthy ermine]

im using mlynar to deal with the drones

also him having taunt gets in the way with doing his job clearing the crystals, in both cases i wont be able to deal with the crystals, no point

i forgot that she will ignite civilians when nobody is on the field

[cursive wedge]

bring cheaper fast rdp

[steep tartan]

https://c.tenor.com/1ssDwtDeM7oAAAAM/disappear.gif

wtf -99 hp???

[opal kiln]

ur supposed to not use vanguards

200 dp is enough anyway

[lapis hornet]

how can I play the game without my whole flagpipe squad

[scarlet ledge]