strategy

[sonic willow]

stage code?

[ionic mortar]

stage code?

[foggy grove]

[sonic willow]

like 4-8

[ionic mortar]

ah

[sonic willow]

💀

[ionic mortar]

story 3-5

[sonic willow]

iirc

the aoe caster spawns bottom left and paths up

so you have to deal with it separately

cause if you let it hit your clump of units your healers won't be able to keep up

[ionic mortar]

I am having trouble dealing with the 3 camo caster at the start

[sonic willow]

you can set up kroos on the bush

then drop vanguard/defender on the casters as they approach

[foggy grove]

you can clump

[ionic mortar]

So like, put kroos here?

[foggy grove]

it's pleb variant that doesn't do splash art

[ionic mortar]

Liskarm takes a lot of damage from them

[sonic willow]

use cuora as main tanker

[turbid badge]

wtfart

santalla splash caster

[ionic mortar]

I don't have her

[foggy grove]

nah he is talking new cn operator

[sonic willow]

EWWWW

[turbid badge]

whats ur swuad

[sonic willow]

splash caster

[foggy grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/840970455531651112/04-47-41-0ca437c7.gif

skyfire but ice

and rng

[ionic mortar]

?

[turbid badge]

ur swuD

Squad

[ionic mortar]

Ah

[turbid badge]

i mean she decrease her interval instead of increasing it

[turbid badge]

waaa

how u struggling?

u can also use liskarm skill one

Just place vgs and than ur snipers and stuff

the grass basically protects them

[ionic mortar]

I have being starting like this

[turbid badge]

start with ur vanguards

u honestly can spawn camp the red box

the left and bottom right

just try stuff out yeah you should beat it

[foggy grove]

wtf so pro

[turbid badge]

nah its just idk if he can handle all those casters

[ionic mortar]

We he

[frigid kite]

No way how

[ionic mortar]

Ok...3-7...how

[frigid kite]

Damn......

Scares me

[latent anvil]

Wow I am so scared

[ionic mortar]

I don't know how to do it...

I'm still using pretty much the same squad

[latent anvil]

Fang solo vanguard

[ionic mortar]

Suggestions please

[ionic mortar]

These 2 are...

[frigid kite]

Wife 1 and Wife 2

(Spot and Melantha)

Thought Lappland or Midnight would do 200% better over there

[ionic mortar]

Ok

I am having trouble wrapping my head around the start

[frigid kite]

First wave only goes over there

On green, if you block over there they will go mis

Mid

Same with red

And finally i just blocked the yellow zone so they dont aggro Kroos because no one would be healing her

Out of skill

[ionic mortar]

Does this mean I messed up?

[frigid kite]

No

You good

Just use anyone to kill the mortat

Like, retreat fang and you good

[ionic mortar]

Ok

[frigid kite]

So pro i may cry

[tepid ivy]

XD

[latent anvil]

pro

[ionic mortar]

Almost died

[turbid badge]

so pro

[young elm]

yo teta

give me a colour scheme i want a nice looking rex

[turbid badge]

rex

[young elm]

ye#

[turbid badge]

eat it

[young elm]

no i just knocked it out

i want it to be a nice colour what colour do i make it

[turbid badge]

okay fine

yllow

[young elm]

what the fuck

you did not just see a rex and say make it yellow

[ionic mortar]

Are there 2 or 1 rocket launcher dude

[frigid kite]

1

Maybe 2

[ionic mortar]

I'm dead if there's 2

[frigid kite]

And 3?

[tidal sedge]

Just stall him then kill him slowly

[tidal sedge]

There is only one of Skullshatterer

So relax

[lethal dragon]

You can surtr him and sleep

[ionic mortar]

Who would be useless here?

[tidal sedge]

Liskarm?

U can use someone actually tank?

[ionic mortar]

Dose she not tank good?

[autumn loom]

Liskarm is fine imo

Just bring s1 if you have survival issues

If you don’t value the slight increase in sp that s2 brings, s1 will be your general pick

[ionic mortar]

Got it

[tidal sedge]

Also why Gnosis here?

[ionic mortar]

Crowd control when the hoard comes in

[tidal sedge]

Did it really that necessary

[civic nest]

gnosis is prob better than other unraised option of his

so like why not use him?

[ionic mortar]

These are what I have

[civic nest]

u haven’t beat the stage yet?

[tidal sedge]

Don’t tell me that stage is 3-10.

[civic nest]

wat? 3-10 doesn’t exist 💀

wat are u talking abt my dude

[turbid badge]

3-10💀

[tidal sedge]

The one has Skullshatterer one

[civic nest]

u mean 3-8?

[tidal sedge]

Yea

[still ingot]

what do I do if I dont have elemental healer? skip stage?

[civic nest]

this daily cc?

[still ingot]

yeah

[autumn loom]

Just do it without an wandering medic or borrow one

You can frd stall the actually threatening enemies

Or lee cheese it

[still ingot]

if I borrow a medic, then I dont have anyone that actually kills stuff

[autumn loom]

Somebody in #cc-central can probably help you figure out a strat without a wandering medic then

[still ingot]

okay

[primal ore]

*her

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not everyone know 2nd one is ||Misha||

[gleaming lodge]

if you reached the stage you should...

unless you don't read story, in which case you don't mind spoilers lol

[stuck trout]

I want to do anni shipyard
Is my squad alright? I’m thinking of bring BP

[pallid veldt]

i think lappland good here

according to other ppl

[cyan gorge]

Lapp is good but not mandatory

just camp the stairs and you'll never have floor goo problems till the very last wave

[gentle finch]

built Ceylon

I respect it

[mossy geode]

lappdumb is nice for shipyard because the floor hazard thing won't spread by silencing enemies

but yeah not mandatory

[tidal sedge]

Misha

[gray stone]

ngl when I first met Skullshatter my first thought is ||Why is his waist so small?||

Turns out HG is just too lazy to do 2 versions

[scarlet fulcrum]

well yeah both ||alex and misha just kids||, or just lazy design like u said

One of the reason i watched anime without skip

[gritty eagle]

saw an e2 irene with sl2, please tell me im dreaming

[turbid badge]

ppl to that sometimes

really frustrating especially if their ur friend

Like why put that on support😭😭

Defective lvl 90 sl3

[sharp wadi]

@gleaming lodge oh I saw you, can maxed ashrock nuking those egg max risk?

[scarlet fulcrum]

In few skill activation yes

2 or 3 i forgor, horn did it easily because overdrive and 0 def buff daily 💀

[turbid badge]

lets try

almost 3

Lol

just got her skill back

when she did last hit

m3 lvl 80

[scarlet fulcrum]

[sharp wadi]

Not bad then retreat and redeploy it should be horn replaceable

[gray stone]

Ya got max Exu here?

[sharp wadi]

Too slow 2.5 cycle horn s1m3 seem faster

[gray stone]

I need to borrow 1

Playing all ranged today

[sharp wadi]

All range max risk?

[gray stone]

yes

[sharp wadi]

In #friend-id should have it mine just e2 70

[turbid badge]

aw

[sharp wadi]

Horn s2 still bad

If m3 hp would reduce more

Faster with stainless

[gray stone]

Traps costing 9 DP is the biggest hate crime today

[sonic willow]

pretty easy just hoshi top left of the stairs

[limpid siren]

trappers get hit by so many risks

fun game

[timid schooner]

too many cars help

[civic nest]

wait the traps get increase dp with the melee dp increase?

[faint solstice]

I needhelp with h5-3

here is my squad

[fallen terrace]

Whats easy tags To r8 this?

[sonic willow]

borrow thorns best here. guard one lane with cuora + dps, let thorns cook on the other

[foggy grove]

don't take egg range

[fallen terrace]

Egg gibs me nightmares

[faint solstice]

oh okay thanks

[civic nest]

prob don’t use exu

does she even help here

[fallen terrace]

Does Exu+Skalter bad here

[cyan gorge]

I killed cars with Horn and Ingido iirc

[timid schooner]

e2 nearl

👍

[civic nest]

if u don’t take the egg range exu should do fine on her own

[fallen terrace]

Ill try again i gotta watch the eggs

Thanks

Is Cantabile bad for this Daily CC? Which one should be effective?

[foggy grove]

canta is ok,flag is also ok

just take your flavor

[sonic willow]

canta is cool

[foggy grove]

canta can stall as frd too

[fallen terrace]

Ill Canta Sail then. Thanks

[faint solstice]

can I use texalter S1 to silence the exploding bugs in h5-3?

[turbid badge]

no

Why???

Archetto is good here

same with Pozy

Archetto cuz extra range

[foggy grove]

sure

[faint solstice]

[sonic willow]

why tho 💀

just use s3m3

[signal lichen]

s1 in theory seems like an actually decent s1 skill since its "utility" but theres 0 actual situations i can think of to use it in over s3

[fathom gust]

does the broodmother offspring have taunt
my ranged op will always pirortize them

[vernal lion]

nope

[fathom gust]

is it because no path enemy gets pirortized

[vernal lion]

do you remember what stage was you in

[turbid badge]

Maybe because there route is closer to blue box?

[vernal lion]

^

[turbid badge]

also which ranged?

deadeye have targetting priortity

[fathom gust]

pozy

[fathom gust]

offsprings have no route to blue box

they are purely to cause destruction on the battle field

[turbid badge]

what are the offspring

[vernal lion]

the spike ball

[turbid badge]

Ohhh

OH

the ones that shoot ballsv

??

[vernal lion]

yea

[turbid badge]

the enemy or the balls

lmao

[fathom gust]

the offspring is ofc the ball

[turbid badge]

ah

its called baleful brooding

[fathom gust]

yeah, why do ops pirortize them

[turbid badge]

tbh no idea

hmm

[fathom gust]

quite annoying on omen or vortex when you activvate pozy s2 the damage goes onto the ball instead

oh yeah nest as well

[turbid badge]

nest?

oh the map

lmao

[vernal lion]

the nest is still fine, the one you will hate most is hunting grounds

on F4

[fathom gust]

I don't want to deal with half of the levels on floor 4, if without texalter, the only one I don't hate dealing is blaze of glory

blaze of glory feels like safe house but gives you combat reward to me lol

emergency feels like people oriented safe house that gives combat reward lol

[tidal sedge]

How much Green Certs u need to clear the first shop?

[gleaming lodge]

About 1.2k I would say

But that's just an estimate

[sonic willow]

1490

[tidal sedge]

I see, thanks

[gritty eagle]

in the time I could cope trying to clear this daily cc I could murder 3 people

[gleaming lodge]

Friendly reminder that you can leak on ftt

Or skip the daily, you still get the medal

[gritty eagle]

yes thats what i did

tactical leak

2 reapers

[glass monolith]

FLAG MODULE IS GIVE BLOCK TO OPERATOR AHEAD DURING SKILL

[gleaming lodge]

It's pretty good yeah

Quite restrictive in terms of positioning though

[foggy grove]

it feels memeish but yeah it can be useful

[gritty eagle]

like, +1 block to an operator infront?

[tidal sedge]

Interesting.

[foggy grove]

now my bagpepe can have 3 blocks

[latent monolith]

another op for the block buff army

How high can we go now

gavial S3 (5) + heidi (1) + nian (1) + flags (1 each? = 3) + chapter 10 slugs (6)

Imagine setting that up though

[gleaming lodge]

It's literally easier to get that setup than it is to proc the bonus on Ashlock talent

[orchid marlin]

What is the strat for 36 contracts?

[gleaming lodge]

https://bit.ly/REALFakeWavesHomework

Or be dalao and create a new strat

[orchid marlin]

I'm okay, 18 was hard enough 😅

[gleaming lodge]

Hopefully you don't care too much about your hair

As sleep stall has certain effects...

Oh

I thought you wanted to do it lol

[orchid marlin]

Is it possible? All 36 at once?

[gleaming lodge]

You can watch a few max risk clears, it's fun sometimes

Yes

13 operators though

[orchid marlin]

[gleaming lodge]

There are some people trying to reduce it to 12

Most max risk CC have been completed

[orchid marlin]

That's pretty crazy

[gleaming lodge]

With the exception of beta, Barrenland, Pyrite and Spectrum

[orchid marlin]

[gleaming lodge]

If I'm not mistaken

For a good laugh, look at max risk Deepness

The stall strat is huh.... questionable

[glass monolith]

Stainless skin is

[sly drift]

Are we raising sora too for sleep knight. She's total shit beside dancing and being cute

[gleaming lodge]

Do you have a full squad of sleepknights ?
No
So you raise everything

[sly drift]

I'm planning on blemi, kafka,erato, blacknight

[gleaming lodge]

Planning ?

[sly drift]

Not sure for sora tho

[gleaming lodge]

Planning on doing what ?

[sly drift]

Yea

[gleaming lodge]

If you want to do sleepknights, you have to raise all of them

[sly drift]

Raising

[gleaming lodge]

Plus Sora isn't that bad

Her talent is sad though

Well I guess her S1 isn't crazy

[sly drift]

The uptime

Isn't good

60s?

[gleaming lodge]

I would argue she pairs well with Blemi S3

Yeah it's 7 up, 60 down iirc

[gleaming lodge]

Just because Blemi dies without healing

[sly drift]

How?
You will place blemi in the edge of sora range?

Oh

[gleaming lodge]

Edge ?

Just put Blemi in Sora's range

You want the heal

Ultimately the problem of sleepknights is you lack a second blocker

[sly drift]

Nah I thought you want S3 blemi to hit sleep enemies

[gleaming lodge]

I guess blacknight pig can do something but...

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

Of course

She deals big damage

[sly drift]

Yea but everyone will sleep at separated tile and most of them in the edge of sora range because enemies from outside

That's what I mean

[gleaming lodge]

Well

Get better placements then ?

What do you want me to tell you ?

Unless you consider Blemi S3 to not be a sleepknights

Which I would guess is correct

But I'm not sure how sleepknights is defined

[sly drift]

Well.. what I want by building sleep squad is perma stall.

That consist maybe 8 cc ops

[gleaming lodge]

Oh

You don't want to just clear random stages with it ?

well I don't know what you want to stall
But it's likely you'll want a Liskarm....

[sly drift]

Currently working on this. Sadly no weedy.

[sly drift]

Liskarm?

[steep tartan]

yes gives sp

to blacknight, etc

[sly drift]

Idk what Liskarm supposed to do on this squad

I use this comp either when I fight like 5k damage enemy. Or very slippery enemies.

With thick HP of course

[gleaming lodge]

Who deals 5k ?

[sly drift]

Lv 3 risks

Idk if it that much
But the idea is very hard hitter enemy

[vague rock]

Which cc? Rock guys?

[sly drift]

Yea..Take cc4 golem for example.

I want this squad to stall that kind of thing

In 2 separated lane

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah
You want Liskarm to do that

Else you don't have enough SP

[sly drift]

I will use her if she can help me but is she really can survive.

[gleaming lodge]

The point of Liskarm is she is supposed to tank low damaging but fast attacking enemies to feed SP to whoever can use it

[sly drift]

Exactly. Liskarm is usable in that condition and very helpful. But the point about making this squad is I want to rotate the crowd control skill into perma cc (bind,stun,sleep etc) so none of operator will die.

Let's say enemy attack is lethal

[gleaming lodge]

...

All "efficient" stalls used Liskarm so far

Because you need SP to rotate CC

[sly drift]

I use her too in cc2 but not work in cc4

[gleaming lodge]

I don't get why you don't understand (I hate this sentence btw)

[gleaming lodge]

There is literally a 9ops max risk with Liskarm in CC#4

And it's the best clear

In fact, max risk CC#2 also uses Liskarm

And so does CC#8

(idk about CC#11 though)

[latent monolith]

CC11 doesn't

[sly drift]

Again.. let's say enemy attack is lethal. One hit and any op will die. That's the scenario I use

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

but

Liskarm DOES NOT tank that specific enemy

That is THE POINT of Liskarm

She tanks fast attacking trash

To produce SP

[latent monolith]

You feed that sp to like blacknight, who does the stalling

See: CC8 max

CC10 max had a stall strat with liskarm skalter ng but it was optimised out for gnosis

And some other fancier clears ig

[gleaming lodge]

11 you mean ?

Pretty sure you don't need to stall in Ashring

[latent monolith]

10

[gleaming lodge]

Oh

[latent monolith]

Yeah but you could

[gleaming lodge]

I'm not up to date then

My bad

[latent monolith]

Actually I think I mixed up some clears

Oh gnosis S1 is a 7op the 6op used S3

[gleaming lodge]

Ashring max risk is 6ops ?!

I didn't know

That's crazy

[sly drift]

I wonder if we can use liskarm in cc 12

[elder flume]

R34 alr used her

Another blacknight stall

[gleaming lodge]

Cringe......

[sly drift]

Maybe because we are totally on different page
The scenario I imagined is where I fight this certain lethal enemy (Limited to this big dude) while you are thinking about some trash mob no damage interrupting the run.
But well. I guess it's my bad because all map have trash mob on it.

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

That is the point of Liskarm

You use the trash mobs (always exist) to generate SP with Liskarm, allowing you to handle the big mobs

[latent monolith]

There are multiple 6ops, all of which are ntr ng sail scene +2

[gleaming lodge]

Sc*ne 🤮

Thanks for warning me

I will not look into it

Max risk clears go in #salt-mines unless we are actively discussing it...

[latent monolith]

The 7ops don't have scene

[weary perch]

I'm just sharing my strategy

[gleaming lodge]

Nah
You're randomly showing off your max risk clear

Which is done in #salt-mines

[weary perch]

If I did, then wouldn't have spent the time simplifying it and just posted whatever a few hours ago.

[gleaming lodge]

Don't make me call the mods mate

Move that to #salt-mines

[weary perch]

Why would you show a video if you're just flexing? Wouldn't that mean you want to share how you did it so people can also get an idea of how to do it?

[south bone]

what's wrong with Scene

[gleaming lodge]

@river portal flexing in strat

[radiant mesa]

[gleaming lodge]

Boring op
"Let me put down 15 copies of Melantha"

[weary perch]

@river portal just sharing strategy.

[cosmic thicket]

It's basically a "nobody asked"

[weary perch]

I see you have the content creator tag. Do you have something against people who don't have a tag?

[radiant mesa]

lol

[cosmic thicket]

lmao what ok

[radiant mesa]

Squid is a notorious gatekeeper!!! Don't trust his lies!!!

[weary perch]

Well, I did my good deed for the day. Do whatever you want. I hope SOMEBODY was helped with my vid. It's all I ever intended. SInce I was helped by other's vids as well.

[south bone]

Ling is more boring but whatever

[radiant mesa]

Iing is less boring because she actually kills stuff quickly so you can leave sooner

[south bone]

sounds boring to me

or maybe i'm just bias lol

[gleaming lodge]

So true bestie

You can go touch grass

The best operators are those who allow you to not play the game

[gleaming lodge]

Yes
I am racist against non-green people
I follow Toddifons' principles

[eager gate]

going offtopic right before and right after calling mods on someone's offtopic

[gleaming lodge]

I'm not offtopic
I appreciate Toddi's special targeting

Well, it was very funny in IS#2

Somehow there are a lot less Sarkaz enemies in IS#3 so it's not nearly as funny

On that note
Maybe I should start grinding for defknights knight clear

Nobody did it iirc

[frigid kite]

Damn, new Stainless skin is everything a skin should be

[mild galleon]

I don't see how this is a subject for #strategy.

[gleaming lodge]

On a more #strategy topic
I'm struggling to theorycraft the ideal defknights d15 run

Ideally I kind of want something like Blem > Blitz > Horn

But then what ?

Penance S1 with CC duration and SP relics seems to be the play against knight

[cosmic thicket]

I think you intentionally want metastatic to go on blitz for earlier redeploy

[scarlet ledge]

wtf happen here

[turbid badge]

the new modules r intresting

[gleaming lodge]

yeah that's not a bad thing

but honetly it's not needed

well

if you have escape crane it's not needed

[gleaming lodge]

me trying to revive this chat for the 70th time today....

[scarlet ledge]

[turbid badge]

use spuria on rosa s3 and cancel everytjing

[next cradle]

Need help on the “Fates Favored Child” IS level.

[sonic willow]

if you have CC duration relic, maybe penance can permastall the boss

otherwise, looks like a wipe

[next cradle]

Whoo! Ended up letting the knight through with basically no health but stalled long enough to be able to redeploy Surtr S3 and Texalter to wipe the rest of the enemies. Went in with combined 34 Objective Shield and Health.

[sonic willow]

should've first mentioned that you could've just leaked knight

[glass monolith]

Leaking boss pre expansion in IS-4 is cursed

[next cradle]

First time getting the ending so I’m happy.

Playing so much of the ocean IS is making me consider getting Skadi… 😅

[verbal sparrow]

what are some of the most amazing clears in arknights history? some that would even impress people who have not played the game

[glass monolith]

That's complex request. Most amazing clears are having handicaps for their handicaps, while people who didn't play Arknights follow as much of "what is going on" as me watching YuGiOh anime

[sonic willow]

I like CC5 R31s

[scarlet fulcrum]

must be waifuknights, even max risk not amazing for them

[sonic willow]

CC9 R39 is probably the craziest clear, but people who don't know AK probably won't appreciate it

[soft crystal]

Cc9 was reapers first to talk and all the scary sea critters right

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just slap them with waifu, problem solved. Joke aside prob solo or low ops seems interesting enough

[soft crystal]

And eggs

[sonic willow]

stalling like 10 flowers and eggs perfectly while FTT is walking through

insane

[turbid badge]

i really enjoy weedy, mostima mudrock saria skyfire cc

[verbal sparrow]

which one was that?

[sonic willow]

watching carpal tunnel simulator 💀

[turbid badge]

prob e0 lvl 1 clears are probably impressive

most*

[turbid badge]

one of the cc4 max risks

[sonic willow]

if you want some real action, look no further than bibeak maxrisk

[turbid badge]

liskarm battery 🔋

most high risk sniper knights clears are pretty insane

[turbid badge]

ok nice

when stainless turret dies esetelle talent proq

mfw

mountain talent

[turbid badge]

ohh thats nice

ceobe talent

2 hits

[cosmic thicket]

i would say anything 1p relay

[ebon oxide]

hey

hmm

ok idk if i'm high but

i want to use gravel and wild mane as fast redeploys.....?

39.6, 14.08s rds

which means wild mane can be used once per two cycles i think...

[frigid kite]

A lot can happen on 39.6 seconds

[lunar crest]

does Mayer s2 work with pasta or spinach

[latent monolith]

I liked the R8-8 talulah 100% damage

https://youtu.be/AF33PP_KvSI

[turbid badge]

ng skalter so amazing

glad to see it in cc10 too

[exotic relic]

hello chat im really bad at this game pls help

[autumn loom]

what do you need help with

[foggy grove]

hello really bad

what's the context

[exotic relic]

im struggling with clearing mid level stages for mats for e2ing charas with my teams and i need some pointers on general stuff 💀

[turbid badge]

intresting choices

[exotic relic]

i dont really understand ak LMAO im a bit dumb and i just like to look at the pretty characters but i wanna have someone maybe help build a good all-round team

[turbid badge]

honestly that squad isnt thatt bad

[exotic relic]

these r my mainly built charas,,

[turbid badge]

Id rather you use Firewatch s1 tho

If u want a easier life u can use mountain of blemishine there pretty good lane holders

w self sustain

[sharp wadi]

There's no all rounded ops just get more ops, strat isn't hard if you maxed everything, not max just watch some guide

[turbid badge]

the issue u have is umm

[exotic relic]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[turbid badge]

ur leveling so much operators ur giving no room to e2

[autumn loom]

ye

[exotic relic]

YEAH LMAO

[autumn loom]

your mats are spread too thin

[turbid badge]

lul

[exotic relic]

ok. ill try consolidating for some core ops

[turbid badge]

If u want more mats and stuff

Just play Integrated strategies

And deep investigation

but tbhh

u kinda want e2

just to borrow a carry

[exotic relic]

yea

[autumn loom]

you'll probably end up playing around gnosis blemi mountain as your main carries

also gnosis s1 is better for general use imo

[exotic relic]

mm i see

[turbid badge]

and irene is pretty good in SSS

[exotic relic]

my main dmg dealers rn are like my guards + carnelian,,

[turbid badge]

if probably just focus on e2ing irene

If u cant and need a quick e2 go for pinecone

is2/3 have a crap ton of lmd

if u havent played much

[exotic relic]

okie

im like uh… lvl 50

[foggy grove]

e1 irene is kinda an ass right

[exotic relic]

mi

[autumn loom]

nice medals lol

[exotic relic]

ty lmao

[turbid badge]

also ill use firewatch s1 instead of s2 loll, her s2 scales good with buffs and kinda wants m1 i think idk but mastery gives her a extra bomb

[exotic relic]

ooh ok i see

[turbid badge]

ill honestly put off building ur eunectus rn

she really wants her module and e2 so just focus on ur main team

[exotic relic]

my friend recced building blemi to e1 next

[turbid badge]

yea shes good

[autumn loom]

e1 mountain first

[exotic relic]

alright !

ill focus on mountain e1, irene e2 / pinecone e2 for now and have a look at my mats to see if i can squeeze in blemi

[steep tartan]

[pearl sentinel]

Who do I e2 next if I can't get mats for surtr e2?

[tidal sedge]

kaltist

[pearl sentinel]

Wait a minute. Kaltsit is the one I can't e2 lmao. Surtr is possible. But should I still e2 her asap if i have mlynar?

[turbid badge]

what chapter

r u on

[pearl sentinel]

5-7 iirc

But definitely episode 5

[turbid badge]

wtff

have u done 9?

[pearl sentinel]

I haven't been playing main story cuz of events and farming mats lol

I'm trying to bum rush to 9 right now

[turbid badge]

kal is very good in chapter 10

penance is to i guess

[scarlet fulcrum]

Might as well go to ch11 for m3 penance

[pearl sentinel]

Why is Kal specifically good in 10?

[turbid badge]

Yea

penance is good too

For 10-11

Cuz barrier

[turbid badge]

Monster true damage goes thru main damage resist mechanics, easy way for true damage, 5k hp to tank cannon

[scarlet fulcrum]

I mean her m3 material recipe need 11-3, but yeah shes going nuts on both ch

[turbid badge]

Penance, good amount of barrier to tank alot of enemies, Easy way to access barrier in chapter 10 due to reborns and reborn spawns and easily tanks cannon w barrier lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

The reborn creature buffing her

[turbid badge]

cant wait for ceobe module lmao

[pearl sentinel]

Btw i wanna ask. Why do some op ops like Texas get modules but other ops don't

Isn't it better to give shitty ops modules first to fix them instead

[scarlet fulcrum]

Only certain archtypes has module, not all of them. Yet

Eventually just doubt it will fix any shit non 6*

[pearl sentinel]

Oh modules are based on archetypes? I thought it's like a second chance to fix bad ops with specific modules lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah once the said archetype mod launched. All ops in it will have access to it

[turbid badge]

yes

[lapis hornet]

they're not really trying to fix anything tbh

[scarlet fulcrum]

well yeah most of them still

[lapis hornet]

98% of modules make bad units a little less bad and good units a little more good

[scarlet fulcrum]

even meme mod also exist

[turbid badge]

Yea

theres honestly a few “game changing” ones

i can really only list like a few

some are better than others for sure

[latent monolith]

If you look at the really big upgrades

It's like spalter chen mostima ethan

Maybe cutter

[fringe jackal]

Ling

[latent monolith]

Purestream good too

Yeah ling

[cyan gorge]

All summoners

[latent monolith]

Ig summoners like them

[cyan gorge]

I can't imagine using Magallan without either mod

[turbid badge]

some of the “better mods” are like
leizi, rosa, ceobe, earthspirit, aak , nian, mizuki, 2nd dusk, 2nd siege, lin, kal 1st & second, gnosis, wildmane, april
didnt really want to include any modules that people get for the increase on base effect

than we have situations like fartooth

[cyan gorge]

Archetto 1st mod is slept on, the extra aspd and sp on drop is pretty strong when you need it

[turbid badge]

yea

its dps is actually similar to 2nd

lmao

It only worse than 2nd if ur using archetto as a Fia battery

[latent monolith]

mr birdknights what do you think of silence alter

[turbid badge]

u building?

[cyan gorge]

I haven't looked at her kit yet

[turbid badge]

wow for ur maggalan

Lol

astegenne

[latent monolith]

I've already decided to M6 her on release

[turbid badge]

Wow

[cyan gorge]

I heard Silalter is niche but decent, not that birds needs more healing

[latent monolith]

She gives lots of shelter

[cyan gorge]

when more defenders and st casters

[latent monolith]

make anyone a defender with 30-72% shelter on skill

[turbid badge]

stonks shelter

YEA

s2 is cracked

think of shelter as DR

[cyan gorge]

Mr. Nothing with rng purple s2 is my defender

[turbid badge]

• she pretty good passive regen

[cyan gorge]

She's like, what, 4-5 months away?

I should have every bird e2, including Firewhistle, by then

[lunar hornet]

is this a trap

[frigid kite]

50/50

[cyan gorge]

Depending on your squad, yes

if you've at least played DM, you should have an idea on how to clear this

[sly drift]

It's obviously not trap
Just beauty sarkaz dancing

[gleaming lodge]

It is a trap

The question is, can you clear it ?

[glass monolith]

Question is will you realize you picked relic to do damage when you deploy someone too late?

[gleaming lodge]

Imagine having no relic awareness....

Though I gotta say, Sui's wrath feels rather lackluster for a t3 relic (assuming it is actually t3)

[high crest]

For anni 3 I have 1 more idea silverash has like s2 right I can just put him on top then I will also when the drones is killed I can just popped texalter there

[eager gate]

Sui's wrath is funny with Eben, assuming anyone ever plays Eben

[gleaming lodge]

Oh it procs on token as well ?
That's cool

[gleaming lodge]

Are you having troubles with anni3 ?

[high crest]

I'm okay for now sorry I'll stop im doing anni 3 for all day

[gleaming lodge]

What ?

This channel is dedicated to helping people clear maps, go ahead

(and it's also for weird theorycrafting)

[tidal sedge]

20 ASPD and 22 ASPD aren't much different right

[gleaming lodge]

No

It's just an extra 2% DPS compared to the initial value

[tidal sedge]

She gets it herself too right?

[glass monolith]

1.66% increase compared to 120, and god knows how it rounds frames

[tidal sedge]

The ASPD increase I mean

[gleaming lodge]

Is Andreana an Abyssal Hunter ?

Yes
So she gets the buff

[tidal sedge]

That's great

[sly drift]

Tried it myself. At this point I genuinely can't understand why ppl hate vigil so much to the point will not raising him over e0lv2
https://youtu.be/g8QaJlWUqgo

Sorry for 4k quality video

[glass monolith]

Because people don't have activated S2 Skadi by time enemy dog reach your dog and dog your dog while saga is doging dogs on dog lane

6* operator price for building, for killing dogs, when i can just build Vigna and she will kill dogs and few stronger enemies

[eager gate]

generally anything you can tap for info, so trapmaster mines, summons, W mines etc

I don't remember if dollkeepers swapping bodies procs tho

Kazemaru's s2 does for sure, but swap itself idk

Beanstalk s2 with Sui's wrath is technically a nuke skill kekw

[sly drift]

He's better than vigna or *5

[eager gate]

by the way does anyone know when's the reset of ticket shop?

[sly drift]

Name an elite that you think you can compare vanguards to fight against it. I will test him again

[cinder vector]

try to unlockable fast things

[sly drift]

What

Unblockable?

That just how you counter vigil

[gleaming lodge]

lmao
That's funny

[sharp wadi]

@high crest I've never seen your formation this day

[glass monolith]

We have firewatch s2 on 4*

[sharp wadi]

@high crest is your thorn e2?

[sly drift]

But for real though. It's more of "What are you expecting tactician vanguard to do"

[cinder vector]

blacknight can easily kill unlockable guys

[tidal sedge]

Did u really bring this guy in?

[cinder vector]

blacknight is also used in two max risk cc

shes got 2 skins and is sexy

[sly drift]

For test. I want to know just how bad he is

I brought him to several attempts against mob and elite. And no, he is certainly not fucking shit like how everyone shitting on him.

[cinder vector]

hes bad at dp gen

[foggy grove]

All tactician are

In fact he is on the better side

[cinder vector]

bn and bs is better than him iirc

dont have number rn

[scarlet ledge]

@sly drift everyone just jump on hate train

thats what en do

[tidal sedge]

as long as u dont e2 90 like some art simp u good to go

[sly drift]

It's just so sad to be honest. Most people treat niche as bad ops.

[foggy grove]

Skalter does boost the wolf survivability

[scarlet ledge]

bro they already have a fucking opinion on cn ops

they didnt even tested it

cause they cant play cn

[sly drift]

Yea I can't deny it. Wolf respawn took too long

[scarlet ledge]

well mumu have same respawn rate as vigil

[cinder vector]

no

[scarlet ledge]

it is

25

[cinder vector]

mumu is same as othe tacs

[scarlet ledge]

6★ have 25sec respawn rate for tactician

[sly drift]

Mumu water copied stats. She is much stronger you can't compare it

[scarlet ledge]

its just mumu have better dog

or water

wtahyever you called it

vigil kit is fine

but his dog is dogshit

hope module fix its stat

[cinder vector]

nvm, i checked respawn time

[tidal sedge]

Schwertleite: said mumu has a dog
Mumu's fan: U must have death wish to bully our wife. Forgive u or not is god's problem but send u to god is our responsibility

[cinder vector]

any ways

mumus summon r much more versatile

[tidal sedge]

well at least it is more useful than stupid wolf of Vigil

[scarlet ledge]

me when hg making funni kit but cant execute it correctly

[scarlet ledge]

[cinder vector]

need early game blocker? copy hoshi or nian
need early dps? do eyja or drt
hell, copying ejya makes her do like eyja s3 dmg

[tidal sedge]

cause why not

[tidal sedge]

Mumu's fan 🔥

[scarlet ledge]

my mumu is e0

lazy to raise her

[cinder vector]

my mumu is e-1

[sly drift]

Meanwhile Gladia casually deal 1.3k damage offskill on bot lane

[scarlet ledge]

shit stage

not gonna bother h12-4

[sly drift]

H12-4

[tidal sedge]

have fun

[tidal sedge]

Schwertleite: Fuck this stage I am done.

[cinder vector]

thats 3

[scarlet ledge]

i just grab mlynar supp

[cinder vector]

not 4

[scarlet ledge]

to kill phase 2 faster

since cant be bothered

[sly drift]

Wut

[latent monolith]

Does ch12 have elemental damage?

[cinder vector]

thats h12-3 not h12-4

[latent monolith]

Oh wait it's on ng

[scarlet ledge]

boss shit

[sly drift]

Yea.. it's corrosive damage iirc

[scarlet ledge]

[sly drift]

Just like is3

And the mfs archer in NL

[latent monolith]

IS3 has nervous impairment too
but it's mostly corrosion

[cinder vector]

is3 also has burn

[scarlet ledge]

oh shit i have to finish is3 lvl faster

its near

IV

[lethal dragon]

Disgusting sleep stall

[cinder vector]

u got another solution to vivienna and the last khan?

[gleaming lodge]

No

But just because it's the only solution doesn't mean you have to like it

[glass monolith]

Disgusting helidrop using Lunacub to provide vision but she didn't exist back then so we don't know if that stupid idea would even work

[cinder vector]

a small price to win

[gleaming lodge]

Losing 10 years of life expectancy and getting carpal tunnel syndrome is not a win

[cinder vector]

which cc is the one with groundfire and exploding slugs

[glass monolith]

Sue game devs and get compensation to skip working for rest of your reduced life span

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882236058383843359.png?quality=lossless

[tidal sedge]

Like some dude sued Fallout game for ruined his life?

[gleaming lodge]

Barrenland ?
We don't talk about it

I still have no idea why heatpumps are rng

[sly drift]

Heatpumps are rng

[glass monolith]

Because they were like literally first mechanic in game after grass tiles forgotten after chapter 2 or so

And they never come back to recode them

[gleaming lodge]

Yes
I know
My question is "why ?"

[glass monolith]

"If it works, don't touch, because we don't know why either"

[gleaming lodge]

Nah

[latent monolith]

They existed in chapter 4

And then reappeared like never

[tidal sedge]

what exist in chapter 4?

[gleaming lodge]

Heatpumps deal damage every 4 to 6 seconds
Just make it "every 5s" and everyone is happy

[latent monolith]

4-9 my behated

[sly drift]

They purposely don't want all the heatpumps fire together (?)

[latent monolith]

IS3 also has heatpumps

[gleaming lodge]

Delay them from each other I don't care

[glass monolith]

Pompei CC stage when it rolls 4 second entire stage

[scarlet ledge]

cc0

[sly drift]

I think it has flat cd but which heatpump fire first is how they are rng(?)

[gleaming lodge]

No

I just said the interval is random

Between 4s and 6s
And it changes every time

[scarlet ledge]

what high risk achieved on cc0

[cinder vector]

28

[sly drift]

Very high risk attempts take too much rng on that map iirc

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

Same for Pyrite

[sly drift]

What's pyrite? Cc1?

Was it?

[scarlet ledge]

cc1 pyrite

best cc for me

bro r18 w1 took me 3 days

[sly drift]

I don't remember pyrite map take rng as much as cc0

[lapis hornet]

skill issue copy yt better

[scarlet ledge]

omg cake beat r18

dalao

[lapis hornet]

ikr

[latent monolith]

CC10 took me like 3 days for w1r18

[sly drift]

Imagine copying video

[scarlet ledge]

the only cc i enjoyed is cc1,cc3 then cc5

[lapis hornet]

cc5 I had more fun than cc1 in retrospect I think cc1 was bit more pain but yeah I have same top 3

[cinder vector]

the only cc i enjoyed is ccb, cc0, cc1, cc2, cc3, cc4, cc5, cc6, cc7, cc8, cc9, cc10, cc11, cc12, ccpo

[lethal dragon]

Pinch out

[lapis hornet]

ccb looks like it would have been cool sad I didn't have the roster to do more than 18

and I only did 18 after friend showed me feater tech smh

cc12 looks like it might be cool we'll see

[scarlet ledge]

i only did r11 on ccß

im still new player that time

with two e2

[gleaming lodge]

You did it with feater tech ?

I just did melee setup with lots of defender lol

everything is fine

Mousse carried me

[lapis hornet]

wow were you a defenderknights player alr back then

my one built defender was an e1 nearl iirc

[high crest]

Sorry I borrowed the thorns

[gleaming lodge]

My first E2s were Liskarm and Saria, I didn't have much choice lol

But yeah I've always been a tank player

[glass monolith]

My first E2 is Aciddrop

[gleaming lodge]

Truly of the operators of all time

Well, her skin is cute at least, good waifu

[glass monolith]

if only her talent was taking upper hand on damage reduction bullshit

[tidal sedge]

first e2 SA

[gleaming lodge]

meta player

[tidal sedge]

uh huh?

[gleaming lodge]

huh uh!

[sly drift]

Did you win this run?

[glass monolith]

Oh right i need to abuse Fred

[glass monolith]

I glitched out wave 2 because i spawnkilled Fred

It sucked than i had to wait for drone to bleed out for wave 2 to happen

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

oh god the old menu looks so bad....

[scarlet ledge]

real

[scarlet ledge]

mine is exu

[sly drift]

It's impressive that you can pass r18 using this squad.

[gleaming lodge]

Why do you think so ?

R18 on beta was pretty straightforward

And that's a rather high end squad
Nearl and Saria have S1M1 btw

[sly drift]

This is my squad and even using this. It still took so much effort.

[gleaming lodge]

Plus the strategy wasn't 100% mine

Ok bruh that should go to 24 or something

[sly drift]

Lmao... I wouldn't go that far atm

[glass monolith]

My first most CC ever #salt-mines message

how i even scored this shit BLINDLY

[gleaming lodge]

Ew blue woman

[sly drift]

Tbf I don't know if I can even go 19 at that moment

R18 took me like 4-5 hrs rng

[glass monolith]

[sly drift]

No joke. Idk what cursed tag I chose but I must rely on Hoshi AND feater rng dodge

[gleaming lodge]

Nah mate

[sly drift]

And I remember I didnt choose banned tile like what squid take lmao

[gleaming lodge]

If you're rolling for dodge on r18 beta it's either a stupid risk choice or a underleveled squad

[sly drift]

Yea.. tbh to this day I'm still allergic to video and guides. So all tag and shits are maybe 99% mine.

Because it just happens that I saw feater strat

[gleaming lodge]

Oh

If you did yourself then it's not too bad

But still
Tile ban and DP down 2 would've helped lol

[sly drift]

Not to be proud but I did all cc by myself

No guide. No reference. Nothing

[sly drift]

I didn't choose that because Swarch is my main damage dealer

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah that's nice

Oh

Yeah you're doing the classic "not choosing a strat"

And doing 3 different things at once, when focusing on 1 would be better

In french we call that "having your butt in between two chairs"

[autumn loom]

@near needle I found a solution with Texas/pozy core

Basically just open with myrtle

Use caster+healing defender to kill top right drone

I added Texas to help with the kill

Just as a side note I think pozy might be able to work instead so you might not need the caster

Try to get talulah out of the bottom left corner asap, she can just chill on the right side afterwards

Spam Texas on the mid drones to kill

Use pozy typewriter+s3 on the top right drone asap

And when the bottom right drone spawns kill with another typewriter+s3

Bottom left drone can be killed with Texas spam

I brought fodder guards to deal with the random ground enemies, those can be replaced by mostly any ops

Oh btw in my fourth pic I have steward there just to show where I placed the typewriter

[glass monolith]

YOU COULD DO THAT??????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD9LF_M8dow

[cosmic thicket]

funny

[forest sage]

I’m just wondering if my team composition is any good m fairly new to the game I’m on Pyrric victory rn

[gleaming lodge]

pyrric victory ?

remove Savage and Ethan for defenders and you should be good
you got quite some decent 5*

[forest sage]

I only have Cuora, Gummy and Cardigan for defenders

[gleaming lodge]

do you not have Spot ?

Cuora will do though

[sonic willow]

Drop chestnut too

[sharp wadi]

At least having e1

[glass monolith]

1-12, W stage

[sharp wadi]

Chestnut out ethan out cliffheart use for some stage so at least you have 3 free slot

Savage is good, she's centurion so

[cosmic thicket]

savage's kit is also not particularly worth investing in

[foggy grove]

savage is bad

[sharp wadi]

In early game you just use aoe guards for block and kill leaking and let defender do another job

[scenic kestrel]

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BEAT THIS????

literally impossible

[sly drift]

Chill

[scenic kestrel]

I'm losing way too many times

..hello?

i guess I'll just have to not do it

[cyan gorge]

Are you dying to the mobs or the boss?

[sonic willow]

Mtn top

Mud bottom

Then like literally everybody mid

[cyan gorge]

Mountain needs help to hold top

[sonic willow]

Ye the casters hurt

[cyan gorge]

I found Irene to hold top better

it's also a lot easier if you have Texalt to kill cars

[balmy halo]

kaltsit and help mid, have mudrock bait the explosion, always remember to kill the cars asap

[scenic kestrel]

everything

like i literally have no idea what im doing

[cyan gorge]

Can you show your ops?

[scenic kestrel]

these are my ops (note: I've neglected ntrk a lot so shes just at s2m1 mod1)

[cyan gorge]

You have every tool you need to clear this easily

You could do something like what I did here

Texalt s2 to spwnkill cars

Fartooth is overkill tbh

Kal to help bottom lane, but bringing Mud to replace Penance will have the same effect

[scenic kestrel]

ok, I'll try it out

[cosmic pecan]

Is GG S2 worth to M3 because i see unlimited duration?

[balmy halo]

um no u usually never use it outside of already cheese content anyway

[cosmic pecan]

ok

thk alot

[cyan gorge]

S2 masteries don't decrease the charge up time and the damage increase isn't really worth the cost

[scenic kestrel]

it worked

[foggy grove]

gz

~~come again on h10-3 ~~

[scenic kestrel]

anyways, how hard could h10-2 be?

[cyan gorge]

a lot easier

[scenic kestrel]

why though?

[cyan gorge]

Fred is barely a factor till the very end

[scarlet fulcrum]

Less pressure than prev stage

[cyan gorge]

only 2 lanes to worry about instead of 3

[cosmic thicket]

Manfred also hides a lot

[scenic kestrel]

h10-2 was pretty easy, anyways now i have to worry about h10-3, how do I do this stage?

[cyan gorge]

Suffer

Spawnkill Fred with Nearl in the tile in the middle of those 3 red boxes

bait cannon on him as often as possible

Penance can solo hold right side

[scenic kestrel]

okay i should mention that my penance is at s3m2

[cyan gorge]

be sure to kill cars as they spawn with texalt s3

that's fine

if she dies, bring another dps to help

[scenic kestrel]

i think I'll have to watch some guides to understand this stage more

[cyan gorge]

I had to borrow Nightingale just to keep Nearl alive during phase 2

[cosmic pecan]

Thanks for the info

[scenic kestrel]

nevermind the stage seems very difficult and I'm also very distracted so I'll just do it later

[lethal dragon]

Stall boss with Lee and focus on mobs

[scenic kestrel]

uhhh but lee will die to manfred

[lethal dragon]

Lee has 70% dodge

With Ng he easily survives

[scenic kestrel]

only to things that are outside his range

[lethal dragon]

Manfred has aspd amp and when he is at max speed he can't move

[scenic kestrel]

also i haven't built ng