strategy

[sour mantle]

where popukar ?

[sly drift]

Is ines actually good if you use her for dp. How much dp you actually gain from her S3

I mean you deploy her with certain dp and you will retreat her after S3 duration that doesn't guarantee you big dp gain if she doesn't constantly hit something. You get half of dp refund after you retreat her

[sour mantle]

Ines main skill is S2 from what I've seen, so E2 best gain are masteries, more than S3.

Not that S3 isn't used but not as much as S2

[sly drift]

So youre saying she is meant for staying in the field??

[somber falcon]

Artificial dp gain is a rather insignificant factor outside of cc high/max risk in endgame
Even in early game tbh

[sour mantle]

I feel it's more like the use of Canta S2 than staying permanently

[sly drift]

Canta s2 is good because she can stay until her Ammo are all used while ines is time based skill

Idk man

[latent monolith]

Ines isn't a pure dp generator

Canta kinda is like this too but ines leans significantly more towards frd utility dps that makes dp

I mean look at these talents for a start

Debuffs enemy atk, slows them, binds them, decreases aspd with S2

[vernal lion]

you don't usually use agent for dp, unless there's a thing that you can hit forever

[civic bear]

nah you absolutely do use agent for dp

its just when you need the deployment slot for the downtime

unlike flagbearer who is deadweight offskill

[sly drift]

Idk but it feels like her dp gain is there only for compensating her half dp refund after you retreat her lmao.

[vernal lion]

also, Ines is just cracked with all her 3 skills

[sly drift]

Unless you play her to stay in the field using S2
At this point you basically using her for damage

[somber falcon]

That's.... kinda her main thing

[civic bear]

but she literally more than compensate half her dp?. its really the same as flagbearer if you do end up retreating

[sour mantle]

S2 for generating dp + shreding first waves (like 2 or 3 skill cycle) then retreat

[sly drift]

I play myrtle until my deployment slot all used

[vernal lion]

myrtle is just an easy option for all of player

[civic bear]

ines and canta are a bit more versatile in a lot of aspect
cuz they can play the deploy retreat and also just keeping them there.

but vanguard are only a small portion of a normal gameplay anyway so it really never matters

[sly drift]

Good point but for competitive map you will use guard over her ngl. It's better.

[civic bear]

no absolutely not

[somber falcon]

Her point is to be a cheap dmg dealer

[sour mantle]

Starting with a guard when you have no DP ?

[civic bear]

they are more or less doing the same dp generation as flagbearer

while also doing something more

[somber falcon]

Which is all you'll ever ask from a vanguard

Flags are just a different thing

[vernal lion]

Mountain, but I'm just gonna built better squad for dmg tho

[civic bear]

that said vanguard discussion are quite literally useless when 99.99% content are clearable without vanguard

they're never a consideration in a map design

[vernal lion]

flag is like, you want DP, and some of support skill

[sly drift]

Y'all must include Saga S3 too. She holds lane, generating fuck ton of dp and give you sp battery too.

[somber falcon]

Yes

[vernal lion]

I don't say Saga is bad, and won't say any op bad,
but her role is just not much better than many present op

[somber falcon]

Even siege is included in that
Help just doesn't like her because haha old ops

[sour mantle]

Until modifiers be like dp cost x5 for everyone unless

[sly drift]

She is ideal vanguard but only few using Saga. Majority will just use Bagpipe and Myrtle

[vernal lion]

unless you want funny Saga in OD

[civic bear]

too bad it'll never happen

[sly drift]

That was one in lifetime satisfaction

[vernal lion]

mob nowaday is just tougher

[somber falcon]

Isn't there a pinch out modifier for that

[civic bear]

no

it was dp cost x5 for vanguard

[somber falcon]

Oh wait yeah

[latent monolith]

OD enemies are funny though

[civic bear]

so the map is just anni with vg ban

[somber falcon]

Misread that mb

[latent monolith]

I saw a run where siege S2 solo funded 999dp with lee deployed in the anni

[sour mantle]

Why HG hate vg

[balmy halo]

they're not guards thats why

[latent monolith]

Normally it's less than half the dp/s required to have a merchant on field

[sly drift]

It's very hard if you blind run the OD boss ngl. And we didn't have "All nuker comps" just like these days

[latent monolith]

I never played OD boss ngl but sounds like pain

[vernal lion]

more like why HG hates 5 star tho

[latent monolith]

Only the anni (and the couple enemies in CC6 perma)

[sly drift]

*5 ops are for proper tower defense play while *6 is for easy mode.

I have all *5 squad in case I'm "actually" want to play Arknight and not just mlynar all stage

[sour mantle]

Wait mlynar isn't the way we're supposed to play ?

[sly drift]

I waited for so long to finally get "Banned six star" risk but they just don't want to include it

[sour mantle]

#strategy message

[sharp wadi]

Well just PO + ban 6* should be right

[robust hemlock]

there any sence in trying to do this stage on auto for stars?

idk how lol

[lapis hornet]

I've never farmed it

[vernal lion]

and when you're lacking of RMA, 9-19 is your only choice

[sharp wadi]

Never touched that stage

[vernal lion]

stage is easy lol, just 3 op

[sour mantle]

coping until IW rerun is simpler

[vital arrow]

Just farm 4-9

Less headache

I have an auto for 9-19 though but it takes too long

[glass monolith]

One day I will run out of RMA and min max this bullshit

I have Exu but fuck it, Kroos alter all the way

[vernal lion]

https://youtu.be/f_FngoFkaKs

[glass monolith]

How much time I have for killing phase 1 to have wave 2 without delays?

[vernal lion]

depend on how fast can you set up whole your squad for bursting

[glass monolith]

I can pretty much set up before stupid cat enter field, but because Kroos ramp up is trash for insta deleting boss more optimal strategy would wait for Bnuuy alter to delete some of her HP which bring up questions what is wave 2 trigger, I am pretty sure some enemies come during phase 1, but how much

[sour mantle]

But, that's not trustfarming

[vernal lion]

sir, you DON'T need trustfarm anymore

[glass monolith]

Do you trust your 0% operators to return with RMA? I don't

[sour mantle]

Until the entire roster is 200% trust, you need to trustfarm

[glass monolith]

I am somewhere about 120 trust 100 and 56 trust 200 or something

And my first trust 200 is Jessica who I forgot in control center for 3 months

[latent monolith]

I'm at like 35 trust 200

suzuran is at 199 pozy is 198 tho

I've quite literally never used jessica (or put her as assistant) since like a week after starting and she's 200

[ionic mortar]

Could this team work on this?

I am unsure what should I bring

[glass monolith]

You can force close app in annihilation, as long as stage is not finished it will refund full sanity cost

[vernal lion]

I use airplane mode button

[latent monolith]

Oh wait DV anni drops today?

[glass monolith]

Dude chill 4 more weeks

Galactic asks for anni 1
Next event is CC11 which is DH/IC fiesta

[ionic mortar]

So...

I wanna how should I do it?

[sour mantle]

Too much supporters I think, Gnosis alone will suffice, it gives you 2 slots for idk , more heal/tank ?

WAIT NO

Mb

You don't have , you need one in Annihilation

Cause there's no DP regen in this mode

[vernal lion]

smh

now it's infinite time

[sonic willow]

why is skalter on the ground

[sour mantle]

Why Vigil ?

[glass monolith]

Uh..... Why place water pad behind Fia

[vernal lion]

lore accurate

[gleaming lodge]

wow spoilers

[vernal lion]

he's "good" tho

[gleaming lodge]

[timid schooner]

lmao why vigil

haiyaaaa

[vernal lion]

he's not that bad tho, you players are just "bad" to use him

[scarlet ledge]

he not bad

[glass monolith]

Only reason he works for you is because top side literally don't exist, this manticore is enough for each sailor to sunk

[scarlet ledge]

en just overblown it shit

BRO THIS 6★ BAD CAN'T DO MLYNAR NUMBERS CRAZY CRAZY CRYING RN

[latent monolith]

Actually he technically can do mlynar numbers

[glass monolith]

But for real, his summon has worse hp than other pets, and 25 second respawn isntead 15, what did they smoke while making PO0 robots

[scarlet ledge]

its just hg fucked up his summon

his kit is fine

he can live with it

its just wolf fucking thin

[latent monolith]

Ye his dps is actually good

[glass monolith]

Imagine S3 was giving DR to wolf

[sour mantle]

The issue : they did him dirty on stats.

[scarlet ledge]

this

but wolf fucking dying early

[sonic willow]

his dps good if wolf is alive
||his wolf is not alive||

[glass monolith]

Looks on GG. They are probably Cat person
Looks on Pozy. They are probably Pink person

[scarlet ledge]

just hope the mofule fix his wolfy and add extra stuff on it

[glass monolith]

Imagine module is self SP gain for BK to make 456 run without Ptilo

[vernal lion]

RMA

WD - IW - IC

[glass monolith]

IW rerun soon

And i will farm devices like bitch

actually forget that i have only 19 RMA left

[ionic mortar]

Should I have one or two

[sour mantle]

1 only, 2 are really not mandatory.

[glass monolith]

Just make sure it is not Charger vanguard (1 block gain 1 DP on kill vanguards Zima isn't one)

[sour mantle]

I forgor to precise that 💀

[ionic mortar]

Any recommendations?

[glass monolith]

Everyone but Yato (no skill 2 star) and Plume (Charger, red skill)

[ionic mortar]

What do you mean by charger?

[glass monolith]

Archetype name

Given so uh... Players know they are different

Until game feel like they need to specify difference even harder and rename them even more

[ionic mortar]

Damn

[glass monolith]

We had alot of defenders as Protectors, then game decided to highlight Spot, Nearl etc and renamed them into Guardian (defenders with healing skills), then to explain why Liskarm and Blitz notmoduled they renamed them into uh... Sentient Iron Guard? The fuck?

[ionic mortar]

So...how's this team

[gleaming lodge]

Is that for annihilation one ?

I don't think you pass the bobe check mate

No pusher

Low damage
Low AoE
Low healing/tanking

And what is Projekt red doing ?

[ionic mortar]

I am completely new to the game

[gleaming lodge]

Oh yeah, fair enough

That was a bit rude from me sorry

The point of annihilation maps is you want to generate a lot of DP in the first 100 kills, when it's still easy
And then you switch to an "optimal" setup, using all the deploy limit (amount of operators at once on the field), and with no need to redeploy anyone
Thus Projekt red isn't very good here

[sharp wadi]

Lvl up these first, it hurt my eyes

[next cradle]

Basically DP is at a premium due to it not regenerating in Annihilation. Red is good but will eat up DP quickly which can be tough.

Ideally you can minimize the amount of redeployment you have to do.

[next cradle]

You probably want to level up Curoa a bit, never underestimate defenders.

[sharp wadi]

For enemies who goes top left just plume can solo those or with a little heal

But at least e1 60 those

[gleaming lodge]

Go as far as you can with this, it should reach 200 kills, which gives you a decent amount of orundum (the gacha currency)
And then go back to completing story and leveling up your units
You kind of want a few Elite 1 operators for annihilation 1

[sonic willow]

weekly orundum already reset, so there's no rush doing anni now

can just delay it to the end of the week so the roster is better

[glass monolith]

And reset already happened for this week

[ionic mortar]

So with what I have you think I can do it?

Or at least get a decent score?

[gleaming lodge]

You need a pusher for top lane

There are holes

Someone like shaw (4* specialist)

[glass monolith]

wouldn't call it "need". But simplifies that lane greatly

[gleaming lodge]

At E0 ?
You need it

[scarlet fulcrum]

With those lv that was the correct term

[glass monolith]

oh wait, shaw push upgrade is SL4, not SL7?

[scarlet fulcrum]

4

[glass monolith]

(Skill level, which is recommended to raise on characters you use. And it is MUST to have Shaw push specific enemies)

[sonic willow]

sl7 is for force upgrade on s2 iirc

[scarlet fulcrum]

U only want shaw e0 sL4 for most content

[ionic mortar]

So focus on upgrading her?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Skill lv only

Upgrade it to 4

[ionic mortar]

Ok

[sonic willow]

is that JP or CN or KR or TW

[ionic mortar]

Jp

[sharp wadi]

No need pusher

[high crest]

How to defeat skullshaterer in 3-8

[sharp wadi]

So common just change jess to medic at 350
Keep spam gnosis s2 and done without sweat

@ionic mortar

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nice overleveled there

[sharp wadi]

If I can downgrade myself

[scarlet fulcrum]

I can sleep with those lv 🛌

[ionic mortar]

what is that aura on lapland?

[sharp wadi]

Lapp s2

[ionic mortar]

I don't have any skill 2...

[sharp wadi]

Just e1 and you get them instantly

[scarlet fulcrum]

🛌

[foggy grove]

just sleep and everyone will be instantly e1

[ionic mortar]

I'll put that on my second team then...

[sharp wadi]

Just e1 60 minimum for your whole squad

[ionic mortar]

I don't have much resources...

[foggy grove]

i will be surprised if you do

[sharp wadi]

If e1 5* or 6 too hard 3* with e1 55 12 ops should do
Just keep going

[sharp wadi]

I do it in cn account, probably 2 weeks spended

[scarlet fulcrum]

3* max will eat atleast 100k lmd, just e1 lv 1 is fine. Kroos will be good choice

If u already know the game its doesnt took that long, i finished base anni and story in 3 weeks

[ionic mortar]

This team correct?

[sharp wadi]

It's ok, but you have to carbon copy some stage like
LS and CE first

Then go to chips see what's chips opening today, and which mats you needed for e1
So, forget this stage go grind something else

[tidal sedge]

guys question im really new to arknight. if i complete a level in practice and 3 star it. does auto deploy apply on the actual level?

[ionic mortar]

What does CE and LS stands for?

[glass monolith]

You get auto deploy on finished actual level only

I won't even talk how stable auto deploy at times

[sharp wadi]

Idk but
LS for exp to lvl up
CE for lmd or money

Today there's no CE you can grind LS

[high crest]

Nope

[sharp wadi]

With copy strat in YouTube like kyostinV,same placement and same stat, so you can wait for few day that cc11 is up, all of resources stage will be unlocked

You'll get free for your future

[ionic mortar]

Ok thnaks

[eager gate]

Does Horn activate spinach when you disable s2 for the burst?

[sour mantle]

Nope

It's for 1s after skill activation

So at best it's for the first ammo

[glass monolith]

Isn't Horn suffers from "Ammo fly too long"?

[eager gate]

This info killed the last crumbles of interest I had left for Horn

[sour mantle]

On S1 it works really well

[next cradle]

@sonic willow Finally got it!

[sour mantle]

Why ? Horn is a really powerful and interresting op, what's the issue ?

[tidal sedge]

is elite 1 level 15 unit better than e0 level 50 unit?

[somber falcon]

Yes

[sour mantle]

Depend of the units you're comparing, if it's for the same unit, then yes.

[light flame]

elite levels build on top

[sonic willow]

niceee

[eager gate]

I don't struggle in terms of raw power of ops I have, for normal stages I'm a 90% niche player these days anyway
I was interested because oneshots with buff army are fun and I hoped for some interaction with one of my fav item types in IS. I don't find her much interesting past that

[sonic willow]

yes... if you're worried about the +2 dp cost, don't worry about it

[sour mantle]

Oh okay, yeah indeed, maybe going for Wuh S3 for this kind of OS

[glass monolith]

How much copium can one fit inside IW rerun?

[eager gate]

I dunno, is Horn even good for IW? Unless just cuz aoe

[glass monolith]

Well boss is 3 phase stat stick

[eager gate]

ah yes
hmm

[glass monolith]

Heavyrain, Kroos alter, Fia, Stainless

And book "Is this a war crime if you camo?"

[eager gate]

I'll certainly have my fair share of fun with sui in records after collab drops

[vernal lion]

my solution for IW boss is ratatata Exu

[glass monolith]

Exu can't Kokodayo

[tiny tide]

Whats a good general strat for me for IS?

[radiant mesa]

Draft Texas and horn

[tiny tide]

Is that in the middle of the run or starting? I think i did Thorns as an opener before.

How about ling? Is she bad/low prio for IS?

[cosmic dagger]

Your raised operators actually look quite good for IS

Open with ling then draft into myrtle pozy horn texas

[glass monolith]

d4 with trollface in distance

[tiny tide]

Thanks will try this out

[vernal lion]

if you want medal, you will need to do d7 too

[cosmic dagger]

It's not in any particular order btw, just grab them when you can

Heavily prioritize ling e2 early on

Though you probably know this alr

[tiny tide]

Yeah. Haha thanks a lot for the advice!

[sonic willow]

start ling/gavial, then get horn texas poz in the middle of the run

missing mlynar is pain

[tiny tide]

Gavialter or gavial?

[sour mantle]

Galter

[tiny tide]

Yeah, mlynar happened when i took a break on the game. Sadge

[sour mantle]

starting with gavial is not a good idea

[tiny tide]

Okay. Need to build Gavialter after the event. Thanks

[sonic willow]

well, you only need 1 of ling or gavial

[scenic kestrel]

what happens if i use the "end of times" relic in here? i mean the relic says that if i lose in a stage it'll count as a win

[radiant mesa]

cant use it on bosses

[scenic kestrel]

aw

i guess it was a bad idea to pick the end of times relic then, am i prepared or underprepared?

[wary wing]

no pozy/10

[scenic kestrel]

i didn't have enough hope for her

[wary wing]

but you took mtn, thorns and surtr?

[scenic kestrel]

well, yeah, i have the assault squad

[wary wing]

so? not like surtr and mtn do anything relevant in is2

[scenic kestrel]

wdym

[main halo]

New chapter? You're gonna fight playwright?

[scenic kestrel]

yes, i want to get ending 4

[wary wing]

your best bet is tanking everything and then nuke playwright in the middle with sexas s2 + surtr s3 + saria s3

[main halo]

Not sure if end of time's gonna work on that stage

[wary wing]

its not

[main halo]

That will work

Hopefully

[cyan gorge]

That would mean he has to rely entirely on Ptil for heals

[timid acorn]

I personally wouldnt wait that long and burst him on the right side with that setup

[main halo]

Pain in the ass I know

[timid acorn]

Texas S2, Surtr S3 and Saria S3 that is

[main halo]

But I wouldn't want to fuck around with playwright at all

[scenic kestrel]

yeah, and from what it looks like the boss has global range which is very scary, and those scary enemies that just do a lot of damage on death are also there, I'll just hope for the best

[main halo]

Ptilopsis alone can't outsustain the shamans

Maybe Horn can kill them from far away?

[cyan gorge]

Horn + Surt can with good relics, but with what he has I'm not sure

[main halo]

Surtr is busy with the playwright

[cyan gorge]

oh I meant boss spawnkill

[main halo]

Hope so

[cyan gorge]

for shamans, Horn might be able to, but it would be better if she was s1m3

[main halo]

The safety reagent works with Horn S1

[latent anvil]

Bruh surtr is so good in is2

When I was farming last candles, I just spam ntrk surtr on literally every stage

[scenic kestrel]

from what it looks like, i could just use mountain and also use horn to help with killing the enemies in the left boxes, and for the big guys, well i can just let them pass because i have 25 health, and for the playwright, i can nuke him win surtr, saria s3, and texalters s2, so it should be pretty easy

[scenic kestrel]

I'll take that back

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is this ur first time?

[scenic kestrel]

i was obviously underprepared, maybe next time

[umbral escarp]

I need help again

[scenic kestrel]

yes

[umbral escarp]

I'm trying to use a kyos guide but as usual his guides are SO inconsistent

[scarlet fulcrum]

Maked sense

[sour mantle]

What stage ?

[umbral escarp]

RS-5

[glass monolith]

What do you mean inconsistent? They are consistently on edge of comfortable clear

[sour mantle]

Wth is RS-5 ?

[umbral escarp]

Sorry SK-5

[latent anvil]

Oh

The shaw shift splitbox

Enemy spawns are a bit random

[umbral escarp]

His defender: Health not budging
My defender: 40% health per hit

[latent anvil]

So if they spawn further from edge, you may not push off

And then big enemy kill ur defender

Just bring another defender

And watch shaw push big enemy off

[cyan gorge]

Is there even a shaw spot on that map?

[latent anvil]

Isn't sk-5 building mat

Ofc there is

[umbral escarp]

yes

[cyan gorge]

where shaw spot

[glass monolith]

Top right look up

[glass monolith]

AND THEN THIS SHIT DESYNC TO UNPUSHABLE SHIELD ASS

[latent anvil]

It's not desync

[cyan gorge]

wait that's a hole?

[latent anvil]

I think it's enemy spawn randomness

Oh rain

[elder flume]

Non s1m3 shaw

[latent anvil]

Pls teach

[umbral escarp]

Out of all his guides I ever tried (like 13 at this point) only 1 ever worked

[latent anvil]

Why shaw sometimes can push

[elder flume]

?

[latent anvil]

That stage, sk-5

[cyan gorge]

I think I only cleared that stage with Ifrit

[latent anvil]

Shaw sometimes pushes enemy off, sometimes doesnt

Is it because enemy spawn on different side of tile?

[elder flume]

I have doubts its search cycle

[glass monolith]

How you even found 13, with shitty Youtube algorithm you literally can't find more than 3 videos with name you inputed

[umbral escarp]

Yeah I mean like the defender just falls over either way

I don't get it

[elder flume]

Blocking cycle can be within 2 to 4 frames iirc

[glass monolith]

Skill activated? Same level? Are you even used same op?

[umbral escarp]

Also idk why he forces melantha in every squad it literally never works

Like everytime he uses melantha she just falls over

[glass monolith]

Because A. Everyone have Melantha

B her skin is cute and i will fight for it

[elder flume]

If your block cycle is too long then he just goes back to his spot in time

[umbral escarp]

He has e1 55 beagle with level 4 skill activated, I have e1 55 cuora with level 6 S2 activated

[latent anvil]

How does a cuora die

[glass monolith]

I was doing math and then i realized

fucking right side spawn arts bullshit masters

and if you splitboxing shields, they won't be pushed off

[latent anvil]

What stage

[umbral escarp]

Exactly
HOW

[latent anvil]

Just use my setup?

One healer enough

Bring more arts dmg

[umbral escarp]

This is roster https://krooster.com/u/Nextis

Also I'm sorry but with the skins I have NO idea what that setup is

[sour mantle]

It's Shaw

[vernal lion]

this stage is just dps and healing check

[elder flume]

Oh is the answer just vector

[umbral escarp]

Would the bottom hole be more consistent than the top one?

[glass monolith]

Those shits are reason your shit takes damage because DEF don't block ARTS

[glass monolith]

Also I failed map and this fucking crab literally flying

[latent anvil]

Maybe my ops a bit higher level

[umbral escarp]

cmon u seriously gonna make me e1 8 units for one level 😭

[glass monolith]

e2 1 unit for CC

[vernal lion]

bro you are not the only one to say that

[latent anvil]

Don't need high levels

Just more slow+arts

I don't have many e1 1 ops to test with

All I have are e2 lvl 1, e1 max, or e0 lvl 1

Or e2 high lvl ofc

[umbral escarp]

like this is impossible

[elder flume]

wgz put up ur shaw

[umbral escarp]

I can't do this because his defender tanks so much more than mine

My defender gets 3 shot and his is full health

I don't get it

[glass monolith]

You CANT tank those shits. and based on how much game hates you shaw might not push them off

DEF DONT BLOCK ARTS

[umbral escarp]

it's not even these

[glass monolith]

They are. they are behind thicc ass shields

because there is physically nothing else "taking 40% off on skill Cuora"

Or show proof (english broke, gonna make tea)

[vernal lion]

you are really lacking aoe dmg for left side tho

[latent anvil]

Sry late it up now

[vernal lion]

build your Pinecone, she can carry you

[umbral escarp]

idk why the video is plastic quality but whatever

[latent anvil]

Ayo that shaw spot

[umbral escarp]

it's more consistent than the top one

well, seems

[vernal lion]

no healer for right side lmao

[latent anvil]

Don't bring silverash

Bring steward or something

Any arts

[glass monolith]

"There is no arts sword dude damagic cuora" (flips table and leaves)

[latent anvil]

Just use arts on everything

[turbid badge]

that map is literally just have 3 casters

and a pusher for the other lane

[light flame]

i think i vaguely remember throwing in puller s2 in top right to snatch some additional arts guards?

[fallen terrace]

Which 5 stars or 4/3 stars good to raise for IS?

[turbid badge]

which one

[vernal lion]

you mean, which op is better for IS content?

[cyan gorge]

IS2 or IS3?
either one, the 3*s to raise would be Fang, Kroos, Steward, Orchid, Spot, and Ansel

[umbral escarp]

I mean like

It's not like left side is surviving either

[vernal lion]

yea I saw your roster

[tidal sedge]

Penguin Logistics?!

[latent anvil]

You picked goldenglow to go search for supplies

[umbral escarp]

so what abt it

what do I do

[tidal sedge]

Yeah but Idk what that means

[turbid badge]

move shaw

[latent anvil]

End of floor GG come back at e2

And bring some ingot probably

[fluid sail]

you went into an emergency dispatch node & picked her
she’ll come back next floor w/ ingots & being promoted

[turbid badge]

what lvl r ur units lol

[fluid sail]

she’d also be cured of any afflictions if she had them

[turbid badge]

also whats shaw sl?

[umbral escarp]

mostly e1 20

[umbral escarp]

6

[tidal sedge]

Oh nice then

[turbid badge]

should be doable

[latent anvil]

Don't you want sl7

For extra push strength

[umbral escarp]

video said 4

[turbid badge]

sl4 still works tbh

[latent anvil]

Oh

[turbid badge]

just place him at the top

[umbral escarp]

changes absolutely nothing

[turbid badge]

for some reason i cant send the video

aahg

[umbral escarp]

scroll up tbh

top-right just vaporizes

[turbid badge]

sigh lemme try

what level is ur angelina

e1 20?

[umbral escarp]

10

[turbid badge]

ah okay

perfect my shaw is sl4

do u have shirayuki

pudding

[umbral escarp]

no

yes

[turbid badge]

do u have any aoe casters other than lava

[umbral escarp]

gitano

[turbid badge]

oh nice

alr brb

are u sure lol

top shaw works fine lol

[umbral escarp]

good for u then

[turbid badge]

wdym?

[umbral escarp]

I'll send a video where it doesn't work at top

[turbid badge]

when a arts guy come u can drop a meatshield

[umbral escarp]

gimme a few mins

[turbid badge]

than shaw can just push it off

[umbral escarp]

you still have slots?

[turbid badge]

mhm

silence works double shifts

to heal shaw lane too

lol

just brung extra defenders

Bring

in case cuora dies

[umbral escarp]

I don't have 25 defenders

I have 2 built

[turbid badge]

??

u just need one to block

lol

incase she dies so uhh

they dont just walk past

but top right works fine yea

shaw with sl4 pushes the arts guard off with 1 skill

[umbral escarp]

I might just give up on this game

I'm like a reverse natural

[turbid badge]

bro

use ur silence drone wtf

[latent anvil]

just procrastinate stages then

play it at ur own pace, no one racing you

[umbral escarp]

But this looks really easy but I can't clear this

[turbid badge]

use ur silence drone maybe try angelina s1

[latent anvil]

yea was gonna say, ange s1 maybe

[turbid badge]

oh sht

[latent anvil]

also maybe ur gnosis useful

[turbid badge]

ur using lancet

[turbid badge]

wtf they have gnosis

[latent anvil]

it e0 1 i thnik

but still useful

[turbid badge]

use him

[umbral escarp]

oh yeah I got gnosis like yesterday I didn't have time to build him

[valid quail]

you are way below recommended levels

[latent anvil]

yea that ice will help

[turbid badge]

tbh it doesnt matter too much

[latent anvil]

it def doable

[valid quail]

hmm masters for new people

[turbid badge]

top left shaw solos and u just need enough dps for left lane

well not solos but shaw+ blocker + silence drone xd

[valid quail]

it may just make people frustrated

just play at your own pace

[latent anvil]

i told them that already, but tbh malding is part of the game too

[valid quail]

ok good

[umbral escarp]

sorry for the pauses irl stuff

[valid quail]

also gumi is not gonna stop those white hat guys at that levels

[turbid badge]

if ur not gonna use exusiai or steward replace them with defendes

defenders

[umbral escarp]

my experience with gummy: imposter defender

[turbid badge]

in case cuora dies

or just to have a meatshield to wait for shaw Skill to come back

[umbral escarp]

idk why people like her just falls over all the time

[turbid badge]

[valid quail]

she is med-defender useful in some cases

[glass monolith]

Just have her chain stun the enemy for 30 seconds and you will see

Sometimes game just feels lettign you win

[turbid badge]

what happens for me

yes cuora dies

so i have to replace with another e0 lvl 1 defende

oh wait bison lvl 50

well he died pretty fast since arts guard was there

i also used lancet to heal cuora so she could last longer than deployed gavial near the end

[umbral escarp]

well now I found a way to clear

but only 2 star

[latent anvil]

...

[umbral escarp]

how do I explain this: I don't have those characters built though

[turbid badge]

yeah hes kinda broke

[glass monolith]

This map is piece of shit

[latent anvil]

theyre low rarity+replaceable also im using lvl 1 units too

[glass monolith]

the end

[turbid badge]

does u even have podenco

[umbral escarp]

no

[latent anvil]

angelina close enough

[turbid badge]

i guess angelina

tbh u could get rid of melanltha for another defender

[latent anvil]

just bring more casters

[winged cedar]

Mousse?

[latent anvil]

mousse is okay but you need healer on ehr

she not bad here tho

[turbid badge]

how much casters have u built

[latent anvil]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Nextis

tbh they actually do have pretty low lvl squad

[umbral escarp]

real

[latent anvil]

wait gnosis

bruh gnosis s1 even on e0 lvl1 good

well maybe not good but it helps here

[turbid badge]

oh dis guy

[vernal lion]

Shaw on top right is just perfect

[latent anvil]

are those e1 55

[vernal lion]

it's 3 star thingy, you won't beat without dps

[glass monolith]

Pros of doing 2-5-2 base: YOU WONT SEE THIS MAP AS MUCH

[umbral escarp]

the fuck you mean

[turbid badge]

no blocks work yea

Blockers

its actually pretty nice

[latent anvil]

it costs less building mats than full max 2/4/3

yea thats what i do, just put bunch of slower/caster

[turbid badge]

only issue i had is top right Shaw doesnt push the elites and theg get stuck on beagles box so they never get pushed and a arts guard got threw

[umbral escarp]

how much more does this mission give anyways

[tidal sedge]

So true, haven't touched this map from ages

[latent anvil]

when ur base is done, it done

[turbid badge]

yea

depends if u have 3 power plants or just 2

[umbral escarp]

i give up

I'll come back with actual units

[tidal sedge]

Why don't u borrow

[umbral escarp]

I'm giving up because I'm out of practices

[turbid badge]

come back with gnosis built

and win easy

[umbral escarp]

what does he do xd

[turbid badge]

hes just good arts dps

[winged cedar]

Freeze, debuff

[turbid badge]

for u rn

[tidal sedge]

He freezes

[latent anvil]

even on e0 lvl1 his s1 auto would help

[winged cedar]

His s1 deals pretty consistent dmg

[umbral escarp]

Bruh rn I have to build base, e2 SA, e2 exu, build all my 3*s, build gnosis

[latent anvil]

base come first

[umbral escarp]

a hell of a to-do list

[latent anvil]

just do it slowly

[tidal sedge]

I remember borrowing Dusk for this map , surprisingly she carried

[umbral escarp]

I'm just gonna pretend SK-4 is just as efficient

[glass monolith]

incoming desync

[latent anvil]

for the tier3 building mat

sk-5 gives one every 10 sanity

sk-4 gives one every 12.5

💀

[umbral escarp]

ehhhh just as efficient

[soft salmon]

is there any way to use ifrit on stage BI-EX-8 challenge mode

[latent anvil]

sure, just find a way to reveal boss

[glass monolith]

Top right face down is like free real estate cooking simulator, no?

I forgot how far she cook

[soft salmon]

issue is that in her second phase, I put my damage op's too close to the blue post and she just teleports in after stopping every op from attacking

pain

I don't really get how to deal with this but I guess, just kill her faster?

(degenbreach, I mean)

[latent anvil]

faster doesnt matter, it trigger off her hp percent

[soft salmon]

oh

[latent anvil]

you either use an op that can reveal

and hit her from far away

or you bait her tp once, then block her again to dps her

[soft salmon]

ok

Will prob use a support op for that

[winged cedar]

Long range totally cheeses that boss

[soft salmon]

ye

That's why I was thinking about using ifrit

[winged cedar]

What is a good strategy for SSS? Should I bring a bunch of supporters to cycle units, or more vanguard/sniper to stack the buffs? I usually try to buff golden glow and Irene, but struggle past the 4th level

[turbid badge]

horn, schwarz, pozy, fartoth

chen

my favorites

[vital arrow]

The usual strat is to decide between ranged or melee carry strat

Then draft your team around it

Mixed team has less consistency

[winged cedar]

Oh, so like choose Irene Murdock carry instead of golden glow?

[cosmic dagger]

Vanguard/supporter/ground carry team works very consistently

[vital arrow]

Irene mudrock, then borrow mlynar

[winged cedar]

Mlynar? With guard buff?

[vital arrow]

Guard/vg works

[winged cedar]

His s2?

[vital arrow]

S3 obviously

Why would you use S2

[winged cedar]

But why buff s3 with vanguard sp buff?

[vital arrow]

Higher uptime?

[cosmic dagger]

Why not?

[winged cedar]

But you lose atk

[cosmic dagger]

Youre not obliged by law to use skill whenever it's up

[vital arrow]

You don't want yout delete button to come up faster?

^

[cosmic dagger]

And you get the flexibility to use skill early if necessary

[winged cedar]

Doesn’t he need time to raise his attack?

[cosmic dagger]

Right

[vital arrow]

Yeah just wait

Or when you suddenly get rushed you can press skill if needed

The point of getting vg stacks is flexibility

It'a not like mlynar s3 is on autoskill

[cosmic dagger]

For your information, 5 vanguard stacked mlynar on worst case scenario (only 17 seconds charge) still does almost same damage as fully charged stackless

A little more actually

But you can always just hold it if you don't need to use it early

[winged cedar]

Seriously?

[vital arrow]

Also yeah this ^

[cosmic dagger]

For full damage

Vanguard atk stacks count as base atk

[vital arrow]

Because vg stacks also give 20%atk per stack

5 stacks means he has double his base attack

[winged cedar]

Oh, I see

Then do I want to bring any supporters?

[vital arrow]

Yes

[winged cedar]

How many do you usually start with?

[vital arrow]

I start with 5

[winged cedar]

What about specialist?

[vital arrow]

I don't use specialist

Except mizuki

For SSS

[winged cedar]

Do you use sniper and caster at all if you’re going with ground carries?

[vital arrow]

My starting draft is
Mlynar gavialt mudrock mizuki 4vgs 1 medic, and the rest is supporters

No why would you bring ranged ops when all your core ops are melee

[winged cedar]

I see

I’ll try this strat

Thanks

[elder flume]

Yea i got nothing other than sk5 problem is the combination of unwalkable tile and block search cycle

Enemy moves back to find the next plausible walkable tile

The movement repeats the push stage making it not as effective

Block search will make enemy not move as far back depending on which frame it happens

[scarlet fulcrum]

Even without full trait he still deal decent dmg with those stacks tbh

[light flame]

i pick up one or two along the way if presented (and if there is no supporter in that pool), can be somewhat useful to restack a unit if you didn't draw all your buffs in time

wouldn't bring from start though

[turbid badge]

lmao

prnance s3 attack is so funny

when they die to reflect she hits again and than again and again

and it lokks like shes hitting very fast

[turbid badge]

15 sp gaming

[sweet yoke]

I understand

[lilac laurel]

What is the most generalist mastery for Skadi, X3, in half AH team

I'm not sure which to focus

[fallen terrace]

Should i get more ops or just upgrade passenger?

Or should i just get Exu for Air defense?

[turbid badge]

half ah?

which one specifically

or do u mean ur team is half

Has AH + others

[lilac laurel]

I'm not using Adreanna, and I'm still missing Spalter Y module 3

[turbid badge]

if u lik using s2 go for the -30 second module

its the “generalist” one tbh

unless ur a s3 user

[lilac laurel]

But the other module is the one that gives a second life and buffs AH

S3 still takes what 30 seconds to activate even at M3?

Not sure

[turbid badge]

i mean that modules still good its just you said generalist and the -30 secs is pretty huge for s2 spamming

unless you really want to utilize full AH team than just go ah module

[turbid badge]

Nah 20

[lilac laurel]

I see, so AH module goes with S3?

That's what I'm going to master then

[turbid badge]

for skadi both s2 and s3 are good, same with mods and some stages prefer the other in some situations

[gleaming lodge]

ASPD on Penance ???

Nah mate use vanguard stacks at least

[next cradle]

Advice for Ursus Frozen Abandoned City?

[gentle finch]

hi

If you're gonna run them all in the same squad and plan to mod3 spalter modY, by all means do Skadi S3 and modY

[winged cedar]

Pusher + vanguard can hang out on the left to push enemies in the hole. Put lappland behind defenders to silence. If amiya doesn’t survive blocking, you can try caster form and bring another defender. Use fast redeploy to kill slugs. Borrow ifrit?

[sonic willow]

eyja penance top, exu bot

should be easy

wait I think I got the maps confused 💀

[foggy grove]

🕷️

[next cradle]

Holy crap, first try basically blind run with no guide. 400 kills!

This is the team I used.

This is very satisfying!

[cinder vector]

i want to see them not completed

they give a lot of stuff

[next cradle]

Used Nearl and Chalter to cover bottom with Chalter also holding top when skill active. Lappland behind Curoa in very top, Beagle by Lappland one lane down. Warfarin facing down to heal, Eyja facing down next to Warfarin. Myrtle covering back lane, later switched with Amiya and Shaw pushing. Texalter baited drones and helped where needed.

[next cradle]

Yeah, why I was working so hard to complete them. 😅

[solid dew]

how bad are the two ocean ones; (dossoles water gate/flooded seashore) im about to start doing them as they are my last ones i belive

never really paid attention to anni until recently lol

[fluid sail]

flooded seashore wasn’t too bad it’s just the reapers being annoying basically
forgot how dossoles was

[cyan gorge]

Flooded seashore is easy

[fluid sail]

wait nvm confused

[cloud lodge]

Hello, I am having trouble on operation 2-3 , should I replace meteor for a caster? , i have skyfire and earth spirit i know they are not that good but is it worth to build them only for this stage?

[cyan gorge]

Water gate is just Thorns moment

[fluid sail]

yeah flooded seashore was easy
was thinking of the watery tidehollow which has reapers

[solid dew]

glad i have him M1 lol

[cyan gorge]

it's even easier if you have Ifrit

[solid dew]

i dont, but support moment

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cyan gorge]

then you should be able to clear it

[solid dew]

what about the dossoles one?

that one looks a bit more intricate with the gramaphones

[cyan gorge]

I was talking about dossoles

[solid dew]

oh

oh right i cant read

[cyan gorge]

The way to win that anni is to keep the grammophones on your side

especially by the end

spawncamp boats with Thorns/Ifrit

[sonic willow]

dossoles pretty easy

[south bone]

Lappland S1

[sharp wadi]

Just lvl up

[foggy grove]

lol why would you need earth spirit

skyfire is ass

[cyan gorge]

Just use the blocks to filter everything to the right side and spam aoe arts

[next cradle]

Honestly not sure why I went with it, usually use S2. Ended up working out though.

[next cradle]

You need Vanguards, two or three defenders, a medic and a bunch of casters. Don’t bother with snipers. I levels should be fine, I used a bunch of guys I never built between 1-30 and did it no problem. Put the blocks where I indicated and work to set up the formation I show.

Idea if to funnel everything into that land and make it a kill box. Defenders with medic hold and casters kill everything. Deploy Vanguards in front of them to stall as needed.

[cloud lodge]

Thanks everyone haha, but I managed to finish it by just placing the block on the south lmao, I didn't know you can place the blocks anywhere you want.

[waxen swan]

As long as your not blocking all the road to the blue box you can do it as long as you left one road unblock to the objective

[cyan gorge]

H10-3 help
https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Zenith

I've yet to find a guide that works for me

[foggy grove]

uh you have nearl
can just spawn kill boss

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[cyan gorge]

it's everything else that's my issue

[foggy grove]

like?
the dot gone when boss dead,you can texalt+sa the other threat

[turbid badge]

texas and nearl

did u even try the stage yet with texas

and u also have fia s3

amazing for the fatass wide map

[foggy grove]

his roster is stacked

[cyan gorge]

yet I'm still losing

[scarlet ledge]

ur stack

@cyan gorge other lane should handle by horn and penance

[cyan gorge]

Mud keeps dying on left side

[scarlet ledge]

try penance but s3 timing needed

u have ntrk and pozy for boss

u dont have problem for it

[cyan gorge]

I brought Fart over Pozy just for the safety
also Nearl dies the moment phase 2 starts

[scarlet ledge]

@cyan gorge https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648597785444220941/1075929273380118660/Screenshot_20230217_075300.jpg

u can see penance
i use eyja there to lessen the crowd

just dont look the oher side

its failed stall

[meager merlin]

Anyone here have experience with carnelian?

Worth building?

[scarlet ledge]

🤏

u might not use her at all

[meager merlin]

Had a look at her S3 SL7 AND M3d and damn, almost a 3rd of her skill damage is behind those masteries

[fallen terrace]

Whats the best way to Defeat the Flying MantaRays on IS?

[meager merlin]

Stuns

They fall down and no longer fly

[scarlet ledge]

use krooster,tex3,may s2, mayer s2

just any aerial stun

[meager merlin]

Kroos alter is amazing against them

Another question about carnelian, is her upcoming module good or just meh

[scarlet ledge]

its ok

[waxen swan]

Could be better

[scarlet ledge]

she didnt benefitted much

imma wait for second

cause sp

[fluid sail]

stun/sleep/freeze so they fall down and then ur melee ops can hit them too
also above pits if you stun/sleep/freeze they just fall & die so that’s nice

[waxen swan]

The idea is always they die on pit

[scarlet ledge]

pits

😳

[cyan gorge]

How the hell does Penance not die from aura

[scarlet ledge]

eyja there to kill extra crowd

then let pens stack

[waxen swan]

[scarlet ledge]

fia there to kill phase 1

[cyan gorge]

I pressed Penance skill, I hear the sound effect, skill doesn't activate

[scarlet ledge]

oof

u can tex2 to supp pens at top if too much enemy

[cyan gorge]

happened again

the cars spawn and Penance instantly gets necrosis

she dies to cannon

[scarlet ledge]

[peak stump]

An L u fell moment

[cyan gorge]

new plan

[scarlet ledge]

what will you do on p2?

[waxen swan]

Roll over and die

[cyan gorge]

it failed instantly

Nearl doesn't even last 2 seconds

Whoever said Nearl spawnkills lied to me

[sharp wadi]

Did u have kal?

[cyan gorge]

I do but it's hard to squeeze her in

[sharp wadi]

Kal is easiest

Put monster in, arty dumped then s3

[cyan gorge]

I forgot I don't have a NG friend

[scarlet ledge]

add me

[cyan gorge]

I still have you added iirc

[scarlet ledge]

oh wait

which one

[cyan gorge]

Helmwige

[scarlet ledge]

i can switch to ng supp

no mastery doe
are okay with it?

or just add my grimgerde

[cyan gorge]

I'll just try without her

[scarlet ledge]

[sharp wadi]

Use ng just for cage

[cyan gorge]

Fartooth works for phase 1 but phase 2 the lanes get crowded with slugs so she's useless

[sharp wadi]

You can s3m0 ng

[scarlet ledge]

fart and kal can erase both phase

at middle

[glass monolith]

Hey i am not only madlad who Fia the FRED

[cyan gorge]

that's how I cleared 10-17 ae

[sharp wadi]

Well did u have mly? Or surtr?

[cyan gorge]

new new plan

as expected

[timid acorn]

If your problems are the initial slugs for each of the phases, you can use Lee to completely dominate them. this is his position for the first phase and for the second phase he goes on the tile to the bottom right of there

[cyan gorge]

my problem is the fucking aura

[timid acorn]

just stall for the cannon to nuke them all

[cyan gorge]

fred doesn't die

[glass monolith]

Do you have Helicopter Mudrock?

[timid acorn]

lee doesnt care about the aura because it originates from manfred who's out of his range

you could also use him to hold a lane as long as you kill the elites on that side

[cyan gorge]

my Lee is s3m0

[timid acorn]

mine was too when I cleared it

[glass monolith]

His M gain is like 60 def

[timid acorn]

one medic should be enough to keep him alive

[cyan gorge]

who do I even replace for Lee
support slot is NG

[foggy grove]

my old auto deploy still works

[timid acorn]

I dont see lappland being very helpful here but idk your general strategy

[cyan gorge]

Irene + Lapp hold right

[timid acorn]

then remove whoever you used to hold left

[cyan gorge]

Penance

[timid acorn]

for lee

yes, like I said he holds the lane as long as the elites are dead because everything else is low weight

[cyan gorge]

every time

right side always falls

fred kills whoever blocks him

i'm losing hope

[latent monolith]

Give lee a real medic

Also he's good on the top left

(and can stall manfred there by existing)

Although I suppose he should go through lower right first

[cyan gorge]

left side is fine, it's just right and middle

[latent anvil]

Oh no not h10-3

That stage is pain

I gotta go back to beat it without support

[cyan gorge]

Lee dies immediately in the phase 2 position

[timid acorn]

he shouldnt if manfred is not there

[cyan gorge]

he dies from the aura

I placed him with a medic and he didn't last 3 seconds

[sharp wadi]

Swing it burst it

[timid acorn]

there's no way, he pushes all slugs away which massively reduces the DoT procs and ignores half the the remaining ones. I cant tell you anything else because that's literally what my clear did

[sharp wadi]

And don't forget to spare some one defender

[cyan gorge]

he died before his skill came up

[sharp wadi]

You just find the way to clear every slug in p1
P2 you kill those junks that show up

[cyan gorge]

Chalter, Mountain, Thorns, Mlynar doko

[timid acorn]

plenty of time to get his skill ready

[sharp wadi]

I've got bait myself

[cyan gorge]

Idk what happened but Lee took the cannon

[foggy grove]

he blocked slime prolly

[cyan gorge]

I had a whole Penance on field

[foggy grove]

he has taunt

honestly with what you have,you can do anything goes and clear

[timid acorn]

his taunt only matters if his block is equal to that of the other highest block op

for the cannon

[foggy grove]

yeah which is why i guessed he blocked slime

[cyan gorge]

well I guess I'm bad cause I'm doing just that and it isn't working

[foggy grove]

[cyan gorge]

might be because I have 0 good lane holders for right

Irene and Lapp aren't cutting it

Mud always dies no matter what I do so she's out

[foggy grove]

penance can hold it to some degree

[cyan gorge]

but I can't put Penance in 2 places

she's already holding left

[foggy grove]

left you can use mon3r and occasional tex or surtr

or you can use lee but he kill so slowly

[cyan gorge]

Idk if Lee is the the play anymore

it's not working out

[turbid badge]

just be more gamer

u can have weedy

Hold left

idk who ur borriwng

u have texas so u can do alot of things

[scenic kestrel]

i have the worn out pupept, can i actually do both ending 2 and 3? seems a bit crazy

[timid acorn]

yes, you can fight the bear on your way to ending 3 but it'll still only count as ending 3

[cyan gorge]

NG, I can't survive otherwise

[turbid badge]

oh

no ptilo?

wtf why ng

is the drone damage really that bad

also do u have skalt

[cyan gorge]

the aura is my problem

no skalt

[turbid badge]

well yeaa

[scenic kestrel]

yeah why not probably a terrible idea with tactical destruction squad but I'll hope for the best

[turbid badge]

u kill before they get you

Orr

u kill manfred at left lane

[cyan gorge]

If I could kill faster, I wouldn't be struggling

[turbid badge]

just bomb the aura slugs

with a defender

with the Explosion

thats what i did

[foggy grove]

my original clear use horn on aura slugs so they bombed her with slugs

then she just revive and start bombing

[somber falcon]

Borrow schwarz instead, you can outlast manfred's random shots with just ptil s2

Spawn camp him from left side > retreat > redeploy on top side for p2

And kal can handle right lane, just bring both mud and penance and swap them when one dies

[cyan gorge]

Mud dies much faster than Pen

[somber falcon]

Use texalt to help her

Just drop her whenever cannon is close to help clean the slimes

[cyan gorge]

this is my current idea, though I'm not hopeful

closest I've ever gotten

Fartooth dies to aura

Texalt doesn't kill slugs fast enough

[somber falcon]

Ah
Your texalt is mod1

[cyan gorge]

If i had Monst3r available for middle I might've had a chance

[tidal sedge]

Hmm

I Fartoothed phase 1 asap and then used Gamiya s2 for phase 2 when he reaches top left and it was fine

[cyan gorge]

if I don't spawn kill the aura will kill me

[tidal sedge]

Really?

[cyan gorge]

that's why right/left always falls

[tawny rivet]

who are you borrowing

[cyan gorge]

NG

[soft crystal]

does penance reflect the aura to manfred?