strategy

[gritty eagle]

I'll try, ill tell you what happen

[robust hemlock]

this mechanic useless shit what FORCING to use SA

[steep tartan]

Me not using any invisibility reveal
Ah yes

[robust hemlock]

and who the hell again whould lvlup SA to e2 just for that?

[steep tartan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1055689442599383041/1068597057532727336/958751487243219095.gif

[sour mantle]

Elysium Tsukinogi Scene Totter can do the job...

[robust hemlock]

ok...and how u suppose to clear cm degenerate? when she jumps everytime?

[sour mantle]

Block her then Oneshot her with Chen.

[steep tartan]

[robust hemlock]

whos chen?

[sour mantle]

Ch'en

[balmy halo]

hui chieh

[steep tartan]

I smell a troll

[robust hemlock]

she cant do oneshots

[steep tartan]

[sour mantle]

yes she can

[robust hemlock]

no she cant

[balmy halo]

she can cheese her phase 2

[sonic willow]

baiting is all that person does

[balmy halo]

in a single s3m3 burst with a skalter buff

[robust hemlock]

for oneshot maybe u need buff squad but in solo no

[sour mantle]

Warf + skalter + Shamare doll + Chen S3 oneshot the phase 2

[steep tartan]

pure bait I rate 1/10

[balmy halo]

i personally did mlynar for phase 1

[robust hemlock]

phase 1 is nothing

[balmy halo]

then skalter buffed chen for phase 2 by ely revealing

[robust hemlock]

phase 2 u have shifts and invisibility

[steep tartan]

ok and

[robust hemlock]

shifts boosted and cd down

[gritty eagle]

will bi-ex-8 work with p1 mlynar then p2 sa reveal then typewirter pozy skill up?

[balmy halo]

ely is pretty cool here because he cant be blocked

[sour mantle]

Block her + chen S3 buffed, boom no more degen, even in CM

[robust hemlock]

and fuck off with your SA and ely.....gays

[balmy halo]

during his skill duration

[robust hemlock]

hate them all

[balmy halo]

which makes it so that she doesnt use her shift and just instakills people

y r u so pressed what

[balmy halo]

should be pretty easy with that yes

[gritty eagle]

okay. let me just make sure i can kill her fast enough

[balmy halo]

ye mine looked like that too

[robust hemlock]

who the f need him uf u have myrtle

[steep tartan]

someone is homophobic

[void wasp]

im on practice so it works,

[balmy halo]

just remember the points wherein the boss stands still for max typewriter advantage

[balmy halo]

congrats

[void wasp]

wait until i lose all remain sanities in actual tries

[balmy halo]

cuz like he has invis reveal for this particular case...

[sour mantle]

He can't handle mechanics, I would love too see him on SN or UT without wandering

[robust hemlock]

no im just...

[steep tartan]

Is this the same "I don't use shifters" guy

[robust hemlock]

shifters useless change my mind

[foggy grove]

just another baiter troll

[sour mantle]

Idk who the h is this person, but you're the second one to quote that xD

[robust hemlock]

ah wait u cant

[sour mantle]

Ah, now I know

[sonic willow]

just someone's alt, nothing to see here

[robust hemlock]

ok but why the hell i should use specialized to only one fking thing operators lije sa or ely for reveal the invis cz i cant oneshot tge boss?

[gritty eagle]

cuz u know, like it saves you the trouble?

[sour mantle]

Because Invisibility ?

[robust hemlock]

and i cant use anything else cz she oneshots everybody who not a tank on phase 2 cz yes

[sour mantle]

WAIT, HE HAS ANGE IN PP but hate shifters

Nice troll

[foggy grove]

you don't need to one shot the boss

there are ways around it even without invis reveal

[sour mantle]

Like chain of frd

[robust hemlock]

its impossible man cz on cm she dashes too much

with low cd

[sour mantle]

Chain of frd + burst

[balmy halo]

(i did it with guard chen ely and skalter)

[foggy grove]

surely you can do something within that 15s cd

[robust hemlock]

again ely

but I DONT WANT TO USE ELY

whats now hm?

[balmy halo]

why would u purposefully torture yourself when u arent curbstomping it in the first place

u could try scene

shes a girl

[sour mantle]

Fuck it, I 'll take the bait and do that shit without reveal to prove him.

[balmy halo]

or tsukinogi

shes also a girl

[robust hemlock]

how the fuck u should kill the boss who FORCING you to use reveals???

[balmy halo]

by revealing the boss in other ways

e.g.

[robust hemlock]

and u dont want to use them

[balmy halo]

baiting the first dash

then using a blocker

then bursting them down

if u cant burst them down

then just repeat the process over and over again

[robust hemlock]

and in 2-3 seconds u got another dash cz cm

genious

[foggy grove]

it's 15s cd

[balmy halo]

just burst them down in 2-3 seconds then

[foggy grove]

[balmy halo]

like

drum roll

irene or chen

[foggy grove]

non cm is 30s

[balmy halo]

shhh let them believe that its 2-3 seconds and cry

[foggy grove]

he should write something on #bug-reports
like that guy with emperor blade

[sour mantle]

Lmao let me record that shit

[balmy halo]

holy shit i just did a ctrl f thing and my god thats so funny

[sour mantle]

Please link xD

[balmy halo]

just do that

[sour mantle]

People sometimes...

[steep tartan]

EN can't read, we know

[gritty eagle]

well fuck

[foggy grove]

so close

[balmy halo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IJgWJuIai0

some guys did it with full enmity ops, the teleport really isnt that long

[sour mantle]

Long enough to block her and depop her.

[gritty eagle]

GG

[sour mantle]

gg

[gritty eagle]

@balmy halo ty

[sour mantle]

Famous 2-3 second is enough.... https://youtu.be/Ywb0B26nmEk (It's kinda chaotic ik, didn't want to optimize that shit for someone like you.)

[robust hemlock]

filtered

[sour mantle]

?

[robust hemlock]

1- i dont have bagpipe
2- 2 flags on battle = instant cringe

no thx

and im not gonna use "guides" for kill smting that weird

[sour mantle]

It was not a guide. I simply proved that you can do it without ops that reveal.

[robust hemlock]

ofc u can

but im not gonna make that only cz someone said i can do that

im not gonna block the shit what can jump on 5meters away in any moment and ruin all timing

[sour mantle]

how the fuck u should kill the boss who FORCING you to use reveals???
There's no forcing to use reveal, you're contradicting yourself.

[gritty eagle]

how do you beat EX-5? its genuinely hard for me

[robust hemlock]

ok imagine...but how the hell your pozy not get blocked?

[sour mantle]

Enough distance to not get silenced.

[balmy halo]

lappland and someone that u can hyperheal upfront tbh

[gritty eagle]

cant you be a lil grateful since he is sifting through your bs to help you

[balmy halo]

with someone that can deal extra dps from far away

like horn

[gritty eagle]

whats a good borrow?

oh horn

[sour mantle]

Silence status or long distance like fia

[balmy halo]

i personally just did

cuora up front

have lumen and warfarin do overtime work

[gritty eagle]

I can try but I dont know since they might stacku p before I can get 2 healers up and saria + lappland on the 2 tiles

[balmy halo]

and horn to take care of actual damage

[balmy halo]

its ok u can just do it later on since they do a loop around the stage twice afaik

[sour mantle]

Yup you have at least one loop of time

[gritty eagle]

ohh fair, i did use texas alter to kill some of them since they group up quite alot

[balmy halo]

yep yep

[gritty eagle]

I'll do it later, i ran out of sanity trying to clear EX-8

and im raising shaw to do this

[balmy halo]

ngl bi ex 5 was harder for me than ex 8 cm

[gritty eagle]

ur so real for that

[sharp wadi]

Nice joke

[balmy halo]

it was so bad that i had to do lappland silencing

[gritty eagle]

omg.. its almost like everyone has a different team comp

scary thought

[balmy halo]

ye my main ranged units are pass and goldenglow, and they do jackshit damage to A res

[sour mantle]

Need mountain for that

[robust hemlock]

helping with fking what?

in that vid all wrong

[balmy halo]

omg is that a kaltsit healer

[robust hemlock]

and im not gonna make that

[gritty eagle]

not wrong, giving you a general idea on how to do clear without reveal

you dont have to follow a guide 1 for 1

you take the general idea

and try to make something with what you have

and dont make fun of them for what shit they use because you have to improvise for most guides

[robust hemlock]

i dont have enough time for fkin place all ops how tge hell i got a time for kill her faster then she dashes?

[fallen chasm]

bruh ex-8 is so easy

[dusky grove]

Yes time to come to #strategy, ask for help then shit on people for helping
The blame is totally on the helpers, truly

[gritty eagle]

should i borrow ng or horn, i just remembered ng has that art dmg reduction thingy that makes arts enemies redundant

[sour mantle]

Ok i'm a fkin degenerate, In my auto of BI-EX-5 its robin alone who clear the guards who do the loop

[balmy halo]

you do have enough time considering someone played it with unhealable operators who basically just did one v ones with degenbrecher, no fast redeploy baits used

[sharp wadi]

My mountain not even maxed, still survive from double explosion tho, I'm gonna place monster as backup if mountain die but he isn't, so let hom be

[gritty eagle]

dont be impatient, i was so fucking pissed with i couldnt clear IS-EX-8, you literally just have to sit through and try strategies using practice plan (dont blme people helping you because they are literally volunteering to help people in this channel)

[balmy halo]

i'd say horn. whats the use of res if u still leak enemies from ur defenders because u cant deal enough damage to kill them all

[gritty eagle]

I'll try strats, rn i just want the medal set

i do not like the colors of the IS medal set

i personally like the blue tint of BI

[sharp wadi]

If ex-5 go kal

[gritty eagle]

my only kaltsit friend is e2 lvl1 with sl5

im fucked

[balmy halo]

just get everything so u dont get fomo

i have a kaltsit with s3m3 at level 60

u wanna borrow

[gritty eagle]

well i do have a max pot horn e2 lvl90 m6 friend so.. 😊

[sharp wadi]

Monster has a lot of hp you can try

Just e2

[gritty eagle]

maybe, im very sentimental with my freinds list so I dont know who to remove since ive had them added since the start of my ak account

[sour mantle]

Use horn alone like next to the blue box ( or fia on the tile behind the blue box), face down and afk for bi-ex-5 ig

[gritty eagle]

I can only borrow one, I dont have fia nor horn

[balmy halo]

they do the same thing anyway so either of the two will be fine

[sour mantle]

It's 'or' not 'and' x)

[gritty eagle]

wha

[sour mantle]

Fia will not be on ice tile tho, Horn yes, i don't remember the timing of the Snowfall, maybe Horn can be frozen.

[gritty eagle]

not sure aswell.. I think one of my main issues is the main defense leaking

[foggy grove]

chilled horn is so funny to watch

it's so slow

[gritty eagle]

what she doing?

[balmy halo]

chilling

[sour mantle]

You mean the path in the middle from left to right ?

[gritty eagle]

ye

[sour mantle]

Ifrit or any aoe at the left of the red box, faced right + blockers and heals so enemies won't flee outside of the redbox.

[gritty eagle]

well im fucked

my best aoe is a lvl10 e1 lava

[sour mantle]

Multi target then ?

[gritty eagle]

multi target?

I also have none of those iirc

[sour mantle]

Show roster

[gritty eagle]

hold on

you gotta wait like 30 minutes because I have to burn thru some sanity

[sour mantle]

It's fine, ping me then

[gritty eagle]

okay

[foggy grove]

fortress attackspeed is kinda slow
imagine it's getting even slower with chill

[gritty eagle]

idk timings for snowfall, prolly going to borrow someone else though

fia sounds nice

[foggy grove]

either one works anyhow

[gritty eagle]

shouldn't fia not be affected by snowfall because she's like

fire

she's constantly burning right

thats why her hp always goes down

[sour mantle]

Then surtr & ifrit shouldn't too

[gritty eagle]

sutr yes

but ifrit idk

[balmy halo]

i have operators in swimsuits beating the shit out of icy snow terrain inhabitants

[gritty eagle]

talulah confused why i got her sister with a swimsuit on

I'll borrow fia

well

I'll just use practice plans actually

so

[sour mantle]

'30 min'

[balmy halo]

something something marksman

holy shit this is basically

[gritty eagle]

wait

waitwa

wait

wait

wait

[balmy halo]

a callback to most tower defense

[gritty eagle]

i just got an idea

cant i just shaw here

isn't that a pitfall

or is that just the map

design

[sour mantle]

map design ig but do a test

test on normal not cm x)

[gritty eagle]

practice plan

[void wasp]

they actually fall from that side now that i think about it

but explosion dmg would hit shaw

[balmy halo]

the fuck

[gritty eagle]

cant i just have perfumer chilling and warfarin as lappy silences them and i borrow a feater or weedy or something?>

[balmy halo]

theres a hole???

[gritty eagle]

50/50 that its a hole or the map design

my money is on the map design tho

[sharp wadi]

You just cycle your mlynar, easy

[balmy halo]

lemme try

[gritty eagle]

please do, im not logged in

[sharp wadi]

For slip out by trolling 🌬️ drop some texas

[balmy halo]

yep apparently nawp

i have a friend with enforcer s2m3

[balmy halo]

placed him in the tile to the right of the mountain in this pic

[sour mantle]

lmao it was way too easy with a hole

i'll try with weedy as well

[sharp wadi]

Who?

[balmy halo]

enforcer

[sharp wadi]

No need, those guard will make a second lap so you have a time to mly

Or shaw?

[gritty eagle]

its not a hole?

[sharp wadi]

My enforce is 😴

[sour mantle]

that's no hole

[gritty eagle]

if only life was that easy

[sour mantle]

The snowfall push them also, so... definitely not a hole

[sharp wadi]

[sour mantle]

They bounce on f* void, it's funny tho

[sharp wadi]

Just mlynar it

[gritty eagle]

thats so fucked

cmon man

add a hole there please

hg

[balmy halo]

this is basically a range dps check

[sour mantle]

Or range stall check

[balmy halo]

the icefield fuckers deal more damage than zaaro phase 1

[sour mantle]

Zaaro is the easiest boss since a lot of time.

[tidal sedge]

I need help

https://youtu.be/XwEUrNO2Noo

Exu replacement because I'm lazy

pozy Ig

[robust hemlock]

why im die? i just kill her 1 phase

what the hell

[tidal sedge]

the civilians are the problem

Where's your nightingale / Lumen smh

[robust hemlock]

huh?

for what

[tidal sedge]

Fire

Your ops are dying

and protecc the civilian

[robust hemlock]

nah they're fine

[sour mantle]

Civilian don't have the right to die on h8-4

[robust hemlock]

why

[tidal sedge]

life point -1

[robust hemlock]

i dont wanna save them only cz mechanic lol

they just trash

[tidal sedge]

[sour mantle]

That's the fucking mechanic of the chapter, if you don't want to then lose the stage.

[sour mantle]

U successed ?

[robust hemlock]

wait lumen remove fire?

[balmy halo]

pozy should be fine even without warf for the most part

[sour mantle]

Yes.

[robust hemlock]

ok useless

[sour mantle]

Not on civilians tho

[tidal sedge]

No haven't tried yet

[sour mantle]

• Yomi, stop acting like a child and enjoy the process to understand a stage and finding your way through.

[sharp wadi]

He just like 🧁

[worthy ermine]

who to borrow for anni 7?

was thinking nian because of those annoying -1 block guys

[somber falcon]

which one was it again

abandoned mine?

[worthy ermine]

bullies

[balmy halo]

horn

[worthy ermine]

flooded seashore

[somber falcon]

no, i mean the map

ah

[robust hemlock]

fuck her in all holes why civilians cant run away instantly????

[worthy ermine]

ill use thorns to deal with the top enemies i just need to make sure nobody leaks

[robust hemlock]

i cant charge night skill twice

i kill talulah too fast

[somber falcon]

your roster look pretty good already
maybe just give blaze some more level, or borrow a caster

[balmy halo]

dont kill talulah too fast then

[robust hemlock]

why i need blaze?

[glass monolith]

Because IRL show every time, than making sick tictok video is higher priority than your own survival

[somber falcon]

not you

other guy

[sour mantle]

I do'nt think you should borrow anyone with that team but if u really want, Saria should'nt be a bad pick

[worthy ermine]

saria is just gummy v2, ill just borrow nian to make sure i dont get fucked by the -1 block guys

[sour mantle]

Another possibility, right

[balmy halo]

u could just delete them before they come close

[sour mantle]

Or Hoshi with 4 blocks

[worthy ermine]

surely nothing will leak with 4 defenders

[somber falcon]

your mlynar and blaze is more than enough for them but sure ig

[balmy halo]

texas has such capability

[sonic willow]

borrow chalter

[worthy ermine]

ill be using mlynar to bait the stun

[somber falcon]

that's... kinda wasteful

[worthy ermine]

believe it or not, ive been using him for his taunt more than his damage

[sour mantle]

Use penance for the bait

[balmy halo]

flooded seashore has really squishy enemies, u can just kill them before they even pose any threat

[somber falcon]

you do you then ig

[worthy ermine]

nian it is

[sour mantle]

And if your issue is drones after this try, borrow another sniper

[robust hemlock]

WTF

why they all dies????

even if no fire on them

[gentle finch]

@robust hemlock

jt8-3

or H8-4

[robust hemlock]

H

[gentle finch]

ok

[balmy halo]

talulah probably casted burn on someone on ur team and they spread that in a cross when it exploded

[robust hemlock]

i got here instant -1 cz somehow they burn

[gentle finch]

send squad

[gentle finch]

energy aggregates can still kill them if you don't destroy them

[somber falcon]

says it's p1 fireballs, so they don't spawn yet

[gentle finch]

😐

[balmy halo]

most likely a talulah burn that spread through an operator in the backline

[gentle finch]

can it really spread that far

[somber falcon]

if you deploy ranged ops on backline ig

[gentle finch]

unless bro has ranged ops down

[balmy halo]

ye i became a victim of that via my lumen

[somber falcon]

and they're deployed

[gentle finch]

so far back

@robust hemlock do you have saria

[gentle finch]

he says he kills first phase to quick and can't get nightingale skill up in time

so I'm guessing he just didn't destroy an energy aggregate

[balmy halo]

word of advice: they dont take advice

[somber falcon]

ik

[livid comet]

Is anyone of these units worth building?

[gentle finch]

ain't no way this guy is Pallasless

rip bozo

[sour mantle]

word of advice: let them try alone, they don't admit they're wrong and don't listen.

[robust hemlock]

now for some fkin reason i cant kill drones....omg wtf happen on this stage idk

[gentle finch]

canta, (E1 for base: gravel perfumer Jessica)

[worthy ermine]

do i just let them destroy the devices?

should i place surtr to deal with them

[gentle finch]

you can actually use gravel though

[somber falcon]

depending on your 6 stars you don't have to, but there's some base slaves there that would want e1 at least

[gentle finch]

@worthy ermine devices take HP once destroyed

[glass monolith]

Uh... Your issue is: Only drone killer is Goldenglow. WHO DONT HAVE CONSISTENT DAMAGE

[balmy halo]

its ok as long as u kill all 400 iirc

[worthy ermine]

yes but if im going for a no leak run it doesnt matter

[glass monolith]

It reduce hp seal, but it won't reduce kill count

[somber falcon]

it's ok though as long as you got the dep slot, anni rewards is based on kills not hp

[sour mantle]

Cantabile, Gravel, (Perfumer and Scene if you don't have global regen/reveal) for general use, Andreana for AH.

[livid comet]

My 6 stars

[gentle finch]

well u can let it die if you want

[somber falcon]

okay yeah focus on them first + base slaves

[gentle finch]

@robust hemlock do you want help or just talking

[balmy halo]

tho its mich easier if they dont get destroyed tho

since u lose a deployment limit

[livid comet]

Thank you

[sharp wadi]

Hahahahaha you need to pick your hated man for this

[somber falcon]

they don't take the limit back after it's activated tho

[sharp wadi]

Go for it

[sharp wadi]

E2 your thorn mountain first

[gentle finch]

well i would straight up make a yt vid for the yomi guy but i gtg now

[sonic willow]

that guy is just a baiter just ignore

[robust hemlock]

i hate this shit rlly

if im too slowly kill her im die faster

she goes to nightingale and all done

[sharp wadi]

Too deep

[robust hemlock]

ye but i cant charge nightingale twice

or after i kill her i need to redeploy her

idk

[sour mantle]

Let him cook his positioning Let just enjoy the show.

[balmy halo]

ye u redeploy her. 120 sp cost is insane

[sharp wadi]

Who charged twice, your just retreat, if you didn't use cage you'll get extra cage at next drop

[balmy halo]

rlly? thats pretty cool

[somber falcon]

I let her charge again

[sharp wadi]

Save it for last life talu, or let civies share some fireball for you

[sour mantle]

You still lose one life :c

[balmy halo]

in anni u dont rlly care bout that right

[somber falcon]

doesn't count as rewards penalty

[sour mantle]

Oh, thought otherwise, mb then

[somber falcon]

it's the kills that counted, not the hp

[sour mantle]

For me, it was 400 + all hp. Way too long since I did it...

[worthy ermine]

ok i 400/400'd

[sour mantle]

gg

[worthy ermine]

didnt even get to deploy nian

[somber falcon]

gg

[gritty eagle]

@balmy halo horn made is so shrimple

ty

[sour mantle]

[gritty eagle]

this might be my easiest medal set yet actually

[glass monolith]

MN event trim - Kill 8 drones

[sly drift]

What's the hardest then

SN?

[hidden axle]

SN do be one of the hardest events barring cc

[wary wing]

pyrite

[sour mantle]

SN & UT first run.

(not counting CCs ofc)

[rapid jewel]

Those dodge assholes. Can't wait for the rerun and just get to use Pozy

[hidden axle]

Lappland abuse

[rapid jewel]

Yeah she works too, but having another option is nice

[sterile eagle]

can i ask again...

[hidden axle]

Dorothy abuse

[sonic willow]

just abuse kal

[wary wing]

kalt
podenco
wai fuu
Amiya
w
Mayer
red
ash
any stun
gnosis

[rapid jewel]

Stun kills their dodge?

[somber falcon]

bi-8?

[sterile eagle]

bi ex2 cm

[somber falcon]

use pusher/pullers

[hidden axle]

Any crowd control effect
Need not be just stun
Can be bind, slow, freeze as well

[rapid jewel]

You just want to clear or you trying for the medal?

[wary wing]

slow and bind don't

[sour mantle]

Ethan on them is pure pleasure

Bind work

[sly drift]

Its not only about the dodger actually. But literally everything on SN is pain

[wary wing]

BI-EX-2 is the robin abuse stage no?

[sterile eagle]

i just want to clear for originite prime

[sour mantle]

Yup

[sterile eagle]

i tried myself for 3 or 4 times

i try to pass BI ex 1 cm but failed

[somber falcon]

[wary wing]

borrow a robin and bring a sniper for ex2

[sterile eagle]

and i try to BI ex 6 cm also fail

[somber falcon]

how are you failing ex-1 cm

[sly drift]

What ops do you bring this time

[somber falcon]

you're deploying on ice or smth?

[sour mantle]

simple thing for 6 cm : bring more vanguards

[sterile eagle]

my 6 stars

[sterile eagle]

who is robin?

[sour mantle]

This goddess.

[sterile eagle]

no but my operator just got many ice effect

[tidal sedge]

Well she is trapper

[sour mantle]

She can put traps on ground tiles who can push

[tidal sedge]

Her trap kinda hard to use

[sterile eagle]

dorothy can?

i cant find her for support

[sour mantle]

Dorothy can't push

[tidal sedge]

Well Dorogone in my support has many

[tidal sedge]

Either trap enemies or blow them up

[sterile eagle]

oh i found her

like this?

[sour mantle]

Verify S2, else it'll bind

[wary wing]

that's s1

[tidal sedge]

But why do u need her again?

[sterile eagle]

idk, someone just say about her

[sour mantle]

Robin is for trim medal in BI-EX-2

[tidal sedge]

Ohhh

[gritty eagle]

does each sl you increase for shaw increase her push?

[sterile eagle]

what and what

[wary wing]

check the skill description

[tidal sedge]

I would rather use Gladia

[somber falcon]

4, 7, and masteries iirc

[tidal sedge]

Gladia s2 also an Option

[gritty eagle]

ty

[sterile eagle]

[sour mantle]

For BI-EX-1 CM you just have to put more heal/more aoe heal on the 2 defenders who block the access of the blue boxes

[somber falcon]

and just pepper texalt on those archers

[tidal sedge]

Or u can just push him away with Shaw

U need at least 20 enemies to get pushed into hole

[sour mantle]

BI-EX-1 CM not BI-EX-2

[tidal sedge]

Oh ok

[somber falcon]

we're talking about both stages tbf

[latent monolith]

Remember that the arts exploders can be silenced

[sterile eagle]

push what

[sour mantle]

I thought it was 1 and 6 CM the two stages they were struggling with

[sterile eagle]

[somber falcon]

.

[sterile eagle]

omg i made the chat silent

[somber falcon]

push enemies to hole

oh wait cm

no need to do that then ig

[weak gazelle]

all that hole in the middle of the map is an actual hole iirc

[tidal sedge]

Push 20 enemies to the hole for the medal

[somber falcon]

not on cm

[tidal sedge]

Push pull

[balmy halo]

what does robin do? (ion got her)

[somber falcon]

bind trap on s1, push trap on s2

[tidal sedge]

Her bomb can push enemies to the hole.

[balmy halo]

oh thats pretty cool

[tidal sedge]

Not that cool when u use it.

[gritty eagle]

why dont anyone got feater as a support, like i dont wanna spend 2rma sl7-ing my shaw

[sterile eagle]

.... where to push and where to pull

[weak gazelle]

yeah pretty much back from the first event
robin are quite popular for this spesific map

[balmy halo]

what stage do u need a pusher for

[latent monolith]

some angles that work

[gritty eagle]

blue puller, red pusher

[balmy halo]

u dont got friends with enforcer or weedy?

[gritty eagle]

BI-5 and BI-EX-2

[gritty eagle]

none

[tidal sedge]

Just use this idea https://youtu.be/kiq7q9iZE3w

[balmy halo]

for ex2, gladiia is good nuff afaik

[tidal sedge]

Well u don’t necessary to have them though Shaw rope or cliffheart still work

[gritty eagle]

gladiia can push?

[balmy halo]

uf u want medal better though, you'd want another pusher or puller

[tidal sedge]

I did mention Gladia about pull

[gritty eagle]

if only I had 2rma for sl7 shaw

[somber falcon]

there are two tiles on right side where you can deploy a puller

[tidal sedge]

Then build it

[balmy halo]

the terms arent really exclusive af, u just need people to be put into the hole

push or pull dont matter

[gritty eagle]

no certificates

[tidal sedge]

What the fuck went wrong

[latent monolith]

Dodge enemies

[balmy halo]

did u quit before finishing it or what

[tidal sedge]

Is it because my lappl is E1

Why u put Lumen there?

[tidal sedge]

Bottom side ded

[gritty eagle]

bad positioning + planning

[foggy grove]

what ya doing
shaw doesn't need sl7 on any of this stage

[balmy halo]

ah

[foggy grove]

[tidal sedge]

Just put your Lapland and block the entrance.

[gritty eagle]

on BI-5 i put spot as stall and it only pushes 2 enemies to the hole, fors ome reason the freeze isnt timed correctly (s1)

[tidal sedge]

I thought if was her name Mikaela? There he would heal her in case she got stun

[somber falcon]

try thorns one tile left facing up, lapp above thorns facing down
no need for ifrit

[balmy halo]

bi ex 5 has a hole?

[tidal sedge]

U don’t need him here actually

[gritty eagle]

no, its map design

sadly

[balmy halo]

who's mikaela what

[tidal sedge]

The scythe girl

Teq sister

[gritty eagle]

just call her la pluma you dont need to call them by their lore names 💀

[tidal sedge]

That the La pluma

[balmy halo]

aint she rafaela or am i missing something

[foggy grove]

bi5 is like shaw and rope s1

[tidal sedge]

La pluma is forgettable

[somber falcon]

yes

[tidal sedge]

Ye rafaela ig

[gritty eagle]

what sl rope?

[tidal sedge]

Well lumen and La pluma are forgettable

In this map.

[gritty eagle]

nah it aint, prolly the only non alter operator with a space in the name

[balmy halo]

jordi my guy isnt forgettable he's the bravest among them all

[tidal sedge]

Also it takes 8 tries

Exusiai keep targeting drones and degen just fucking walk

Ok why u bring A physical medic on healing it doesn’t make any sense.

[balmy halo]

just kill them faster

[gritty eagle]

you could have borrowed a s3 pozy and easily kill p1

[tidal sedge]

I do have s3 pozy

[tidal sedge]

Or we can say silence them.

[sterile eagle]

em....

[tidal sedge]

I was using Kyo strat because I lazy

[tidal sedge]

Just silence them

[balmy halo]

i meant degen

[foggy grove]

i used sl7
but there is no change in shift force between sl4 and 7

[gritty eagle]

thanks, i aint building allat so im gonna do sl4

[foggy grove]

you can just borrow

[sterile eagle]

they die like daily mission

[foggy grove]

if you down't want to raise

[balmy halo]

burst down phase 1 with surtr and deal with second phase using pozy? with silverash revealing her

[tidal sedge]

I hate how degen just frozen immune like wtf man

[gritty eagle]

I raised rope for like anni2 a few months ago, I'm good

[tidal sedge]

Why u need that here?

[gritty eagle]

you can do phase 1 s3 pozy, then p2 you can mlynar it after baiting like 30 millionm operators to take the degen hits

[balmy halo]

they were talking aboht difficulty in bi 8 or something

[tidal sedge]

Well to be honest it's not that difficult

I just lazy so I copied kyo strat

And mald because it didn't go that smoothly

[sour mantle]

Kinda logic, since she's a boss on a freakin frozen island

[tidal sedge]

[balmy halo]

i hecking love chen and irene

[tidal sedge]

Like how did we turn from BI EX 2 into BI 8?

[gritty eagle]

yes, it wasnt difficult to the point thati didnt even need a tutorial (which i usually get for event bosses)

[balmy halo]

low time burst skills like theirs is so good for this type of boss

especially Chen's because iframe

[tidal sedge]

Tho I do think BI-8 is harder than IS-10

IS-10 is a freaking joke

It feels like I'm beating up puppy

[sour mantle]

Nuking >> everything else in terms of fun.

[balmy halo]

thats because its not ex 8 or s 5, in which the boss can actually kill things

[tidal sedge]

Just wait until u play ex stage.

[gritty eagle]

nuh uh

[tidal sedge]

SN-7

[balmy halo]

stult navis S stages as a whole are... unique

[tidal sedge]

And the wolf be like: I am not gonna be a puppy anymore

[sour mantle]

Zaaro is a joke, even in S stage, but that's just my opinion

[tidal sedge]

Honestly the fact that SN-7 is harder than SN-10 and SN-EX-10 CM as a whole is

[weak gazelle]

at this point anything is a joke until high/max risk CC arrive
a proper challenging map

[somber falcon]

Just kill

[balmy halo]

we truly live in a post mlynar texas world

[tidal sedge]

Is clearing CC seaborn R18 a achievement

[balmy halo]

is it the egg risks? kind of yes in my own standards

if it's the nourished reaper risks, also yes

[sour mantle]

R18 is always an achievement

[balmy halo]

first to talk is kind of a joke though

[tidal sedge]

[scenic kestrel]

oh my fucking god why cant i send images???? i hate discord, i want to ask if the guard cap is useless after one battle

[balmy halo]

guard cap what

whats that

[scenic kestrel]

a relic

[somber falcon]

What's the effect?

[tidal sedge]

Don't have e2 Schwarz 😔

[balmy halo]

who do u have

[tidal sedge]

My 600k lmd gone to E2 gnosis in less than 24 hours kekw

[tidal sedge]

I am suprised u lost

[somber falcon]

He already did it btw

[scenic kestrel]

the description says "For a single battle, all friendly units have 25% HP each time they are deployed"

[somber falcon]

Ah
The single battle just refer to the hp stack

[tidal sedge]

If it's BI-8 somehow pozy deals 800 damage to degen

[balmy halo]

i mean they might want to get a faster auto deploy yk fr fr

[gritty eagle]

@foggy grove so uh what level does e0 rope need to be to tank a single hit from the dying arts enemy

[tidal sedge]

Also this one

[tidal sedge]

The drones

I was copying strat because I'm lazy and want fast play

[foggy grove]

uh she shouln't be tanking

[gritty eagle]

BI-5 ^^

[scenic kestrel]

really? so its always useful?

[somber falcon]

@scenic kestrel it works on all level

Oh yeah

[gritty eagle]

she dies instantly to one hit

[scenic kestrel]

alright then

[foggy grove]

but e0 rope has shorter range then e1

[sour mantle]

Replace by "for the current battle", the hp increase doesn't carry through multiple stages, each stage u have to start from +25%

[gritty eagle]

okay

[balmy halo]

it basically means u can only get +25% hp at any given point in time, despite it saying "each time they are deployed"

[weak gazelle]

guess learn what is aggro mean

[foggy grove]

something like this
doesn't need spot and gladia is e1 l1 sl4

[balmy halo]

the way the stage works, shaw alone would just push them out either way

[gritty eagle]

hows this

[balmy halo]

u got ptilopsis?

[foggy grove]

looks good

[balmy halo]

her sp charge might help shaw if ur usinf s2

[gritty eagle]

nope

im using s1 shaw and s1 rope

should be good enough

[balmy halo]

ok ye u dont really need tbat

[tidal sedge]

What the? U using 3* only

[robust hemlock]

nah better this

[gritty eagle]

still worked fine

[tidal sedge]

Didn’t expect u to survive

[gritty eagle]

do you underestimate 3* that much

aslong as you have them at like e1lvl55 with sl7 they are good to go

[tidal sedge]

I bruteforce this with thorns and kaltsit

[foggy grove]

he is doing medal run

[tidal sedge]

It is not that I underestimate them just surprise when see it

[foggy grove]

thorns will just kill them all

[gritty eagle]

now time to wait for sanity to get my actual medal 💀

[novel robin]

Can Lappland disable the event boss jump?

[foggy grove]

she can't be silenced so

[balmy halo]

for medal run u could just borrow enforcer for pretty much everything

he has decent sp cost and push strength

whilst doing not too much damage or taking too much damage

since he still has the stats of a 5 star

[gritty eagle]

I think I can still get away with e1lvl1 rope and e1lvl1 shaw at BI-EX-2, just need a healer to keep the drone from killing rope

[sonic willow]

does gladiia pull instakill the enemies?

I think my rope is e0

[gritty eagle]

dont want rope to instantly die from the aoe dmg so

[balmy halo]

my s2 isnt given masteries and shes at lvl 30. she leaves them with a tiny chunk of hp left for bi ex 2

[sour mantle]

Guys ? Do someone have BI-8 only one op strat ? for farm trust

[balmy halo]

s3 definitely kills them though

[balmy halo]

me when my trust farm team consists of chen and mlynar and elysium

since they dont got max trust

[gritty eagle]

@balmy halo i was wrong i think i need a lappy cappy added for EX-2

[sterile eagle]

[balmy halo]

aight might be better so that they just dont explode in front of rope's face

[sterile eagle]

i think i just give up for this event cm, thx for help

[gritty eagle]

no no its because, the snow storm thingy that pushes.. pushes the arts enemies to the top and they kinda leak..

[gritty eagle]

WHAT!?

[balmy halo]

which stage is this

[balmy halo]

just texalter them

[gritty eagle]

true but would be cool if i stopped relying on the uncle and the wolf 💀

[sterile eagle]

play until heart disease, cannot

[gritty eagle]

you have like 8 days left, you can do it tomorrow

just rest

play at ur own pace

god why am i lurking #strategy

okay bye im going to #help

[balmy halo]

dont they're doing waifu wars nooooo

[sterile eagle]

like all

i just go to get some more lmd to make me stronger

[novel robin]

Any tips to BI-8? I kept failing because she disables my archetto setup on the ice bridge

[weak gazelle]

care to share your team?

[sour mantle]

roster even

[novel robin]

Ok hold on

[weak gazelle]

your issue?
boss phase 2?

[novel robin]

Yes

[weak gazelle]

you dont have invisible reveal ops?
like ely, sa, scene, or horn?

[novel robin]

Ow I have scene

[weak gazelle]

ok that good enough
try scene to reveal boss p2 and burst it at the same time

boss disarm skill radius is 2.8
so think of it like saria s2 range

[novel robin]

Ok thank you, let me try

[sour mantle]

Have like 2 or 3 set up points if one is not enough burst

[weak gazelle]

ok good luck
come again if still stuck

[south bone]

Lmao I'm suck at this, not even CM yet

[balmy halo]

who else do u have

[sour mantle]

4* player ? Glhf

[south bone]

Not a full 4* player

[novel robin]

what class

[south bone]

I mean Warf and Cantabile are there

[balmy halo]

i think u can burst the boss down with archetto buffed with warf, ashlock, and eyja. just make sure that u have their skills up before degenbrecher does the SP disable thing

[sour mantle]

Not 6* = 4*

[scarlet ledge]

@south bone https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1050770255485616238/1118899688054194276/Screenshot_20230615_214602.jpg

[south bone]

Eben sweep

[scarlet ledge]

not sweep

almost ded

imma use my skalter s3

instead of heidi

oh ye that saria is lvl 7

[south bone]

[peak stump]

Need a S3M3 Pozy anyone have?

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledgehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1118451654505803776/2023-06-14_15-05-15.mp4

YEET

[novel robin]

I also think the same, but the boss kept jumping to my archetto before I even got the first disarm out.

[peak stump]

If only I had more rarity abuser friends

[scarlet fulcrum]

Where did u place chetto@novel robin

[scarlet ledge]

[gleaming lodge]

With such a username you are not allowed to complain

[foggy grove]

have you tried #friend-id ?
My pozy is kinda pleb standard

[peak stump]

Not yet

Mine is still

If only I'm not broke in LMD

I still need to raise Taxes, GG, and her

0 lmd moment

[novel robin]

Near the end of the bridge

[scarlet fulcrum]

Place her on most upper right tile, she is safe there. Can kill both phase safely too

Facing down

[novel robin]

When is the second snowfall, for the medal

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its right after last drone leak timing i believe, so like forever

[weak gazelle]

so already clear bi-8?

[novel robin]

I see, I was trying to kill the boss before she enter the orange tunnel.

[peak stump]

Why BI-EX-8 CM

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah even boss leak 2nd storm not there yet

Unless u stall in left lane forever

Better dps her 2nd phase on bot with ur comp

[robust hemlock]

my game never be the same....

why i thinked that nightingale delete fire from talulah?

she dies under s3.....

how....idk

[frigid kite]

Well her dodge is still rng

[foggy grove]

s3m0?

[frigid kite]

Sometimes she just gets hit from all the storm

[scarlet fulcrum]

The reason ppl put meatshiled in front of her

[eager gate]

how did that Specter just die🤔

[vernal lion]

s3m0 is still RNG lol

[somber falcon]

Probably not enough time to pop s2

[glass monolith]

If you think you have skill issue. I introduce you: Me trying to do something
#strategy message

[peak stump]

I have skill issue

Meta brain, non meta ops

I was born in the wrong generation

[gleaming lodge]

That's not what skill issue means...

[glass monolith]

Meanwhile me: Niche ops. Niche brain. But different niches

[peak stump]

Not me spending 100 sanity to clear BI-EX-8 CM

And still hasn't cleared it

[glass monolith]

I spend that much and maybe even more on NL-EX-8 CM bro

[peak stump]

I started playing in NL

Couldn't even do NL-8 Back then

[glass monolith]

Oh no

[peak stump]

Also me spending 200 in IS-S-5

[gleaming lodge]

Why are we spending sanity to try clear a stage ?

Just wait for practice plans

You don't have to do it today

[peak stump]

I never really used them

It's just

The ops i could borrow

Level 30 S3M1 Chalter 💀

[robust hemlock]

aaaah

[gleaming lodge]

Again, you are not allowed to complain

[robust hemlock]

she kills all what need to kill her

[peak stump]

Skill level 7 Pozys

Bruh

[robust hemlock]

i hate this shit

[gleaming lodge]

Practice plans are literally made for you to try the stage, without wasting sanity

Also, get better friends ?

[peak stump]

I'm trying

[robust hemlock]

fuck the plans and friends

they are useless

[gleaming lodge]

Go to 1-7 or something, clear it using "resticted" support units, befriend them

[glass monolith]

Uh.... You know single medic H8-4 is bad idea, right?

[peak stump]

I've added like 3 people with Pozys so far

[glass monolith]

Oh wait there is Saria, discard my last comment

[peak stump]

But i think they're not there to see yet

Medic defender moment

FRD H8-4 is a worse idea

FRD 7-18 was already bad enough

[weak gazelle]

H8-4 hmmm
maybe i should try again later with 5* only
seem like i have a good chance

[robust hemlock]

man

i dont care

this shit kills all

thx to useless nightingale

[glass monolith]

Simplify =/= Nullify

Oh and it is first phase only?

Oh boi

[novel robin]

Finally did it

thank you all

[gleaming lodge]

Sora user

[stuck trout]

Any good R8-8 guide? Do I just keep track of where she's going and not let the drones missile her

[balmy halo]

who do u have

texas alter, goldenglow, and mlynar cheeses that stage

[sonic willow]

using helidrop nukes is good

[stuck trout]

Maybe add a silverash support unit

[robust hemlock]

how the hell one die

[glass monolith]

Did he got hit by talulah ignite or Pizza towers explosion?

[sharp wadi]

With full cage

Skill issue

[glass monolith]

not even x3 cages

[sharp wadi]

You know ng is trash, she's 5* medics

||Until you realize how cage works||

[gray oak]

ng is pog

[robust hemlock]

nah nightingale trash in all situations lol

[cosmic thicket]

no guardmiya for 60% arts dodge?

[robust hemlock]

she need actually only for talulah

[gray oak]

skill issue

also why do you have so much dps

[robust hemlock]

skill too short

better use suicide specters

[gray oak]

texalt+mlynar+surtr can demolish her anyway

[glass monolith]

I spend 1 hour on her Paradox until i realized you can place them on regen tiles

[robust hemlock]

cz mlynar useless bitch with 0 blocks for kill only first drones

thats all

[gray oak]

I'd focus on keeping the civs alive instead, talulah isn't the biggest problem there

[cosmic thicket]

27 > 20

[gray oak]

you can stall talulah until you get his cd back, which would give you time to prepare for the second fire wave as well

[glass monolith]

Dodge which kill her after failing 2 times < LITERALLY IMMORTAL

[cosmic thicket]

ok but also ng

[sharp wadi]

I place on to those gramos tiles

[scarlet fulcrum]

Even normal specter 15s enough

Civs can eat 2 balls

[cosmic thicket]

probably

[scarlet fulcrum]

No it is

[cosmic thicket]

i didn't use spalter/specter when i beat h8-4 so i wouldn't know lmao

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its old af stage

[sharp wadi]

It doesn't matter how you defeat talu fast or not you have to setup fireballs blockers before kill

But...... How about stainless turret?

I'd pull him for real no one set s2 for me

[gray oak]

my dumb ass thought mud s3 would be an easy solution to fireballs

turns out they just fly by her and continue

[civic bear]

h84 as long as you have 2 frd and bunch of medic its pretty much free game

you just bait out the burn 2 skill everytime (which has 19s cd so every frd rotation matches) and she doesnt do anything anymore

[glass monolith]

I activated Camo on Heavyrain, so same boat

[scarlet fulcrum]

Higher rarity cant replace shit in guide moment, i remember someone used manti to replace ethan lmoa

[sharp wadi]

Back to glorious gg

I mean gummy gravel

[glass monolith]

I used Manti in CAT collab to block ballista shot

[frigid kite]

She almost did it

Not M3 yet, M2

[vernal lion]

I think the problem isn't M2 or M3, but her def is 0

[frigid kite]

With M3 she might be able to kill the shield guy early enough to no get hit, have enough hp and tank the archers

[glass monolith]

Bring Lunacub and kill Tratatatada dude on top with her

[vernal lion]

hmm if E2 Robin will be able to kill drone by herself

then Weedy Robin can duo this

[gleaming lodge]

https://youtu.be/vrOY5bO8RHE

[sharp wadi]

Thorns s1 without pressing skill should fine

[glass monolith]

Except entire stage will leak while shield dude bonks him

[frigid kite]

I knew it

Time to wait for her M3 theb

[gleaming lodge]

Thorns doesn't kill high DEF enemies with the dot...

[stuck trout]

In R8-8, tatulah went rage mode on her own(went from 50% to lower). However, I've killed every enemy. Why

[sharp wadi]

Hmm can you try those with art defenders?

[turbid badge]

imaginee

mot m3 smh!

[glass monolith]

Did you spend so long time she bleed out while hugging barricade?

[stuck trout]

She bleeds

W T

Aight

[glass monolith]

she literally steps on bleed tile 1 second into stage

[gleaming lodge]

Dur'nar dies
Asbestie doesn't have the cycle
And neither does Shalem
Czerny idk, but I would assume cycle issues as well

[stuck trout]

Skill issue then

[gleaming lodge]

Penance/Blem/Mud definitely soloes though

[stuck trout]

[sharp wadi]

Well

[turbid badge]

bi-7

[gleaming lodge]

Arts defenders have never been supposed to solo-DPS

idk where you all get that idea

[hardy fog]

is this copium to kill playwright

[gleaming lodge]

Delete your friends

That's a defective Ling

[hardy fog]

i have the other friend who has pot 6 but game so gae that he doesn't show up in my operator pick

[gleaming lodge]

I guess if you can get Horn to blast well it could work

[glass monolith]

[hardy fog]

so i had to cope

[hardy fog]

hmm s2 silence when she s3?

I'm prayge on aspd relic

[vernal lion]

@glass monolith mf it's real lol

[glass monolith]

WIND PUSHED DOG INTO BOX, I LOVE IT

[vernal lion]

[gleaming lodge]

I hate this stage

[elder flume]

Untargettable enemies cant be pushed

Quite fun to desync with wind

[turbid badge]

wind dog

[sharp wadi]

Drop tex on anything should fine

Exu for dog

[gleaming lodge]

Sleeping enemies can't be pushed right ?

[vernal lion]

KEK

[turbid badge]

nah

cant be pushed

[frigid kite]

Just noticed something

[elder flume]

Ex2 is weird

Cliff s2m3 with ptilo has pretty much perfect sync for every 3 enemy wave except for the double 3 enemy wave

[vernal lion]

KEK

[elder flume]

Oh explosion bug

It affects them too

[vernal lion]

she's dead lol

this one is much luckier

[somber robin]

finished the event too quickly and waiting for sanity to farm normal maps for the last medals lol

[sweet marlin]

fiametta users, s2 or s3 m3? also, how impactful is her module?

[turbid badge]

Uhh

up to you

how u use her

especially for masteries

its m6 usually both r good skills maybe do one u use alot

[sweet marlin]

i'm leaning more towards s2

[cosmic dagger]

s2, don't feel the difference with module

I did s3m3 purely for is3 ending 1

[turbid badge]

module isnt that amazing but u can just go lvl 1 the aspd buff is really just for s3

[tidal sedge]

Well fiameta is kinda niche to use

[sweet marlin]

doesn't module also give her def ignore?

[tidal sedge]

Well u seem forgot that she lost hp per second no?

[sweet marlin]

yes i know

[turbid badge]

Yea

its decent

You can just go mod 1

[tidal sedge]

Yea

The upgrade increase aspd

[vernal lion]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XQuNno6L91k?feature=share

imagine getting beaten by a mortar...

[tidal sedge]

Well more like a bird with grenade launcher

[vernal lion]

this is how Angry Bird playing Balloons TD 6

in Arknights

[robust hemlock]

and how here explode left rock?

[vernal lion]

flamethrower guy

joke on you, you can beat every stage in chap 9 without breaking pillar

[cinder pike]

just use more broken units

[eager gate]

Is there any unit that can solo bi-7 other than probably Specter alter

[next stirrup]

Can Unchained solo it? Ling can tho

[eager gate]

how tf do you ling it

mine gets her ass sniped to death by the second bowman