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signal lichen
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haven't tried others yet

sharp wadi
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S1 he can't stand s2 you get buffed unkillable mountain

somber robin
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can mudrock solo the silencers cuz fuck me

scarlet ledge
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hm

sharp wadi
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What's silencer?

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waow not bad

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the gun or

somber robin
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those r called cleaners

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lol

sharp wadi
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Ggez hitman

somber robin
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the task board thing calls them silencers lol

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oh lol

somber robin
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but the enemy name is cleaner

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so weird

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cant

sharp wadi
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I called them hitman

signal lichen
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for the red ones u need something like Sa s2 + skalter or Kalst

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normal ones honestly dont hurt that much

somber robin
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i'm fucked lol

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u can also stall them

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btw

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until there red is over

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with something like gravel

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Or drop a defender

sharp wadi
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Or nuke with texalter

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yea

somber robin
sharp wadi
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Whoa

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damnn

signal lichen
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tex alt indeed solos them

somber robin
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i'm too busy placing down a chalter support unit

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80 highmorh

somber robin
sharp wadi
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Just use monster

sharp wadi
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If you got either hitman and woof boss at same time you just spare Kal for woof

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lol i hate how the enemies wear white now

sharp wadi
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It's blend in tactics

ancient hearth
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Kal is the secret sauce to tanking the hitmen

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monster's defense stats while S3 is active is digusting

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Yea exactly

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lil

ancient hearth
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and so is it's hp pool

somber robin
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i've just been placing my whole squad on top and have 1-2 ops (along with aoe medics) deal with the cleaners

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so i can put chalter and kill that old guy as soon as he comes out

somber robin
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i got bagpipe, mudrock, gg and 1m lmd

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who do i raise first

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what u need

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A caster or vg

sharp wadi
vernal lion
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GG doesn't even need any M

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it's just a small stat increase, but if like you have good resource then just build her skill

somber robin
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i need something to help me clear all these CMs 😭

sonic willow
vernal lion
sharp wadi
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M for use it as meta, for typical gameplay with low resources and you doesn't need M just gg e1 60 enough

south bone
somber robin
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alr

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time to raise shining

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the cars absolutely wreck my defenders

vernal lion
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apply Fear debuff every 55sec to 3 targets, prio allied target first,
if the targets got retreated or defeated, decrease the cooldown time by 5sec

sonic willow
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why not just bait it with defenders LappSad

vernal lion
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because it's unlimited duration

sonic willow
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oh right I forgor it drains hp

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hmmm

tiny kindle
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hello how would u think about beating this?

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im currently using this team

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idk how to place them properly

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im thinking of switching ejya for poze and texas for siege

sonic willow
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make a killzone bottom

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saria should be last deployed

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you can place nearl s1 behind mudrock at top

tidal sedge
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Need help with Is s 1 mission here is my squad.

sonic willow
tiny kindle
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u think i should swap nightengale for another vanguard

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im not getting enough dp to deploy everyone?

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maybe saileach or keep it as it is

somber robin
tiny kindle
sonic willow
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you can drop eyja

tiny kindle
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i havent played this game in a while so im very rusty and forgot what most of my units abilities

somber robin
tiny kindle
tiny kindle
somber robin
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congrats

tiny kindle
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ty

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?

sonic willow
tiny kindle
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idk i just forgot how this game worked SkadiDaijoubu

somber robin
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yeah just plop mudrock on top lane, chalter to hit both lanes, and everything else on bottom lane

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oh and watch out for leaks when the limos die

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that's all

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out of all the maps, this one i got first try

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now i gotta figure out who can eat the cleaners's shots for cm

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maybe hoshi

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i wish hoshi would eat my shots

tiny kindle
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got it thank you

tidal sedge
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How to not fill up the bar?

somber robin
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deal with it

sonic willow
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Also avoid letting the cars spit out mafia

somber robin
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(it's still going to fill up at least 3 times)

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but yeah

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u can also try not killing everything at once

tiny kindle
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this map looks so confusing wtf

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they just go in circles?

somber robin
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the rest go straight for box

tiny kindle
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okay

tidal sedge
frigid kite
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Pink stairs ExuStare

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Cool color

somber robin
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i put penance s2 (emphasis on s2) on left lane, chalter and hoshi on right lane to hold the boss and deal with the limos, and put a bunch of medics around them to also target the mid lane tiles where i place something to deal with cleaners (in my case it was tequila and a bunch of things to drop on the cleaners)

soft crystal
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i just went in and spawnkilled the doggo

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fuck it

tiny kindle
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i just did that

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but then the sniper dudes killed me at the end

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any tips on how to deal with them?

somber robin
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gravel is so good when dealing with the boss maps

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bring her

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try putting thorns on mid lane

tiny kindle
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the 4 star ?

somber robin
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and drop gravel on the cleaner to reveal it and let thorns hit

somber robin
tiny kindle
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ohh i have her lvl 1 e0

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with no lmb

somber robin
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she can also bait the boss's skills

tiny kindle
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😭

somber robin
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any fast redeploy will do

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unless u dont have any

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which in that case

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god bless

near folio
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I somehow survived this

somber robin
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just get her to e1

near folio
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First encounter with this boss

tiny kindle
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yeah i dont lvl up anyone beside 6 stars 😭 would phantom work'?

tiny kindle
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aight thanks

near folio
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Phantom + ntr is the dream

somber robin
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that's how i did it cuz of my limited options

tiny kindle
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i got phantom recently and ntr right before i went on a hiatus on the game

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so dunno much about them

near folio
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Tbh im not sure but ntr not taking up deployment slots means you can use her pretty well with phantom

somber robin
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u can even just put something that can survive with medics healing them when dealing with cleaners and let another dps kill

tiny kindle
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ok

somber robin
sonic willow
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not a fan of phantom

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use gravel instead

tidal sedge
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So to decrease the speed of filling bar I have to avoid break the car too fast? What if I killed the car all at once?

somber robin
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imma clear the rest of the cms when i can do practice mode again

sonic willow
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gravel reduces nearl redeploy so she's better than phantom

somber robin
tiny kindle
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no lmb currently cuz receently e2 skalter

somber robin
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it drops 3 enemies when killed while blocked, and killing those 3 increases the bar faster

foggy grove
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No lmd because you ignored base slave

tiny kindle
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base slave?

foggy grove
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Gravel is factory base slave

somber robin
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just deal with the cleaners somehow

tiny kindle
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well i just came back to the game and got a bunch of new units

somber robin
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instead of trying to delay the inevitable

somber robin
tiny kindle
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ntr s2 does decent dmg to cleaners

somber robin
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texalter

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pozy

tiny kindle
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from what ive seen

tidal sedge
glass monolith
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Holy shit it is possible to finish IS-S-1 CM with only 1 ASSassin ExuHyperStare

somber robin
tidal sedge
near folio
sonic willow
somber robin
# tidal sedge Is s 1 doing mission

i put chalter on bottom facing up, and when they were in range i put down something to block them until they were almost dead, after that i retreated the unit blocking and the cars just go boom from chalter damage

tiny kindle
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is is-s harder than ex

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or im just being dum

somber robin
tiny kindle
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aight

glass monolith
tidal sedge
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So I have to kill the car as soon as possible?

tiny kindle
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btw what skill would u use for phantom

tidal sedge
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Or kill it all at once?

tiny kindle
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it makes cleaner spawns faster

sonic willow
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just have SA s2 blocking RedOmegaLul

somber robin
tidal sedge
tiny kindle
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why i like phantom i wanna know how to use him

somber robin
somber robin
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and also completes mission

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somber robin
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it's easier to do with the first 2 cars cuz they come out 1 at a time

tidal sedge
near folio
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Phantom's Y module better make his clone not take up a deploy slot

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The bars for the cleaners

somber robin
tidal sedge
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Ok done what u said with first car what about other one?

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the cars all same enemy

somber robin
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for the last 2 that come out at the same time just don't care about them cuz u already completed mission with the first 2

somber robin
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the mission only needs u to explode 2 cars

tidal sedge
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I thought it is supposed to be killed without blocking?

somber robin
glass monolith
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Me at first attempt on IS-S-1 CM: Tries to beat shit legit
Me 420 seconds later: Weedy, dragonborn, FUR-SO-DUH

tidal sedge
glass monolith
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i swear every second i spend in planning IS-S-1 more cursed it gets RedOmegaLul

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planning?

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Just texas them

glass monolith
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I play without OPrators

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oh nice

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i just angelina’d them

glass monolith
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How you fucking know DIE

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wait i think i got the mission done because i made them sleep and the hypnos killed with when sleep

tidal sedge
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Is s 1 mission is explode 2 cars?

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Not killing without blocking?

glass monolith
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explode without blocking

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BECAUSE PHASING IS FUCKING EASY SO WE DONT DO IT

tidal sedge
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Ok understood

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I thought it is the cleaner at start

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its in the page

glass monolith
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"Explode directly" is not refered to any mechanic pointed out anywhere. it fucking explodes on death DIE

tidal sedge
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I kinda mistake it with other enemies

latent monolith
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It says "luxury limo" how does it not sound like a car

glass monolith
tidal sedge
sharp wadi
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Limo this game is joke

glass monolith
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"this one dumb clowncar", "those assholes", "deploy your own Trash on S-4"

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waow angelina gaming

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s-3 is pretty easy

tidal sedge
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Finally done with IS 1 mission

glass monolith
tidal sedge
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What is the mission of IS S 3?

glass monolith
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To win

scarlet ledge
glass monolith
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S-4 deploy (just having in squad don't do) your own Vigil

scarlet ledge
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do mine

near folio
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I got Krooster + string puppet

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Time for some fun

raven needle
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Is it possible to have a strategy that doesn't involve hoshiguma because I don't have her. In every guide there is one hoshiguma and I'm kinda sick of it. Is there any alternative besides hoshiguma

near folio
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Wtf my run ended because of the new duck lord stage

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lol

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To like stall the cleaners?

raven needle
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I'm kinda pissed like is there a guide that has no hoshiguma like everything is hoshiguma

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oh what do u have?

raven needle
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Saria, mudrock, penance among others

sonic willow
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💀

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do u have any protectors

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against normal cleaners saria should work , maybe just give her a medic to help

raven needle
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Alright

hardy fog
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so this is the legendary relic in is2 from what I've seen on yt

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Lucian got groundpounded to death by my gavialter lol

elder flume
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legendary is2 is golden chalice

glass monolith
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Bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk (death screams)

sonic willow
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aaaa

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I lost 12 sanity

foggy grove
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i can finally kick out vigil

glass monolith
lethal dragon
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Can't even generate dp

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Wtf is uselessness

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Insane

lethal dragon
sonic willow
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Dumbass car on the left leak somehow Bnuuy

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omg how u leak with that team

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im scared

south bone
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What the fuck just happened LappDumb

sonic willow
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cleared the map just fine

sonic willow
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but idk how penance leak on the left

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i hate that purestream placement

south bone
sonic willow
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maybe I forgor to put skalter pet next to her

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why is she turned up for

sonic willow
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what's rope for

analog kiln
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I love how cleaner goes from 2shotting mtn skalter during debt collection to not even doing any damage without debt collection

south bone
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also forgor to retreat

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lul

sonic willow
south bone
analog kiln
sonic willow
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ohhhh

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that's why FiaDed

analog kiln
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add to that hidden S stage modifier AND CM modifier

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Yea

analog kiln
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and u have them going from dealing 1500 per hit to 2500 during collection

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Wow nice dps!

analog kiln
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i made them sleep threw debt collection

sonic willow
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actually painful

glass monolith
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What the F is last 2 limos on S-2

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Spawn killed every single enemy and then those 2 limos just face roll

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AND I KILLED 6 OTHERS ALREADY

sonic willow
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cars do be flocking on the highway

glass monolith
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Fucking stability, now i killed all cars and died to ASS RedOmegaLul

scarlet ledge
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hello minus dalao

cinder pike
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anyone know what these are?

glass monolith
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Rip, no bladedance for you

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loll

scarlet ledge
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no reproduction

cinder pike
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what are they

scarlet ledge
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growth is light 5

cosmic dagger
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Migration is whiteflower that also applies -3 to everyone

glass monolith
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You played IS2? Recall event with select one of 3 relics? It is it

cosmic dagger
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Survival is hp to shield

cinder pike
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thanks

cosmic dagger
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Migration is generally fine

cinder pike
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picked whiteflower

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thanks

hardy fog
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no way it's that washed up 2nd best vanguard in the game

scarlet ledge
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vigil sweep

hardy fog
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vigil sweep

analog kiln
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vigil sweep

hearty dock
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How to do this stage

glass monolith
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Free trash is free

civic nest
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is kermit still here

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i need to know how to speedrun IS3

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on easy mode

cinder pike
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does anyone know if camo makes you uneffected by Skalter event egg elemental damage

glass monolith
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You need invis to avoid egg

cinder pike
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:/

civic nest
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or u could just make it take cc then burst it

glass monolith
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It is fine

civic nest
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she’s prob dead

glass monolith
civic nest
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press it then let see if ur fast enough

glass monolith
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it is literally instant

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she just stuns whatever is blocked

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not on hit or anything

civic nest
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yes but this game is funky
sometimes

glass monolith
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He just took shot and i screenshot as i was pressing it, i won

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I swear to god every time i take screenshot Gladiia is blinking

frigid kite
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Again

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For a 3rd time

glass monolith
balmy halo
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where does the blood guy appear from

frigid kite
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Top

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But he feels like walking

balmy halo
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thx

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are there enemies in his pathing that can be hit by horn to trigger invis reveal

hardy fog
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vigil or vanilla for starting is run

frigid kite
tepid nest
balmy halo
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say if i freeze the dude and then irene lifts him, does he still come back to the invisible state

glass monolith
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I have enough pain of those dudes on ground, don't make them fly

tepid nest
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Horn S1 shows them tho

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so it doesnt matter

balmy halo
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naur i mean in a situation as in

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irene blocks him

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gnosis freezes him

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irene s3

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does all s3 hits or does the boss go back to being invis

turbid badge
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oh levitate makes him not blocked

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so she will miss alll her shots

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at the end

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lol

balmy halo
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so freeze doesnt do anything there

turbid badge
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idk i havent tried with gnosis

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lemme see

glass monolith
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I love how S-3 be like "You can win without causing cleaner to spawn. But let's spawn him instead

vernal lion
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anyway, spawncamp baby

glass monolith
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Where is normal chen S2 to charge Thorns and spawn kill top box? BlitzSmile

frigid kite
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Working on Thorns module

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Surely

foggy grove
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i overworked saria

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she get chewed by wolf

vernal lion
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my lord, I really did beat it first try CeobeConfused

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lol nope

vernal lion
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squad formation is scuffle as heck

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leviattes fucks it but if u kill fast enough..

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WTF

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POKE WIKI

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pokedex

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vernal lion
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still no number check RedOmegaLul

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once levitate for too long

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they just go invis

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And than no more freeze

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But she shiuld kill it

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since gnosis fragile

balmy halo
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when they go invis and levitate she judt hits the air lol

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whole skillRedOmegaLul

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half skill she did no shots

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lul

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i just aaked aurora so she hit faster for freeze

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man

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i wanna try but they just die in one cycle

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aurora too much damage

frigid kite
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Kill Aurora

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me no gnosisSkadiDaijoubu

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oh wtf

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freezing enemy -15 res

vernal lion
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oh well it does nothing yea

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i tried again cuz last time the freeze ran out

vernal lion
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hmm, mf hitmen

frigid kite
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Can BP 1vs1 the cleaners?

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With S3

vernal lion
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I don't think so

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red hitman is like ~2100 atk

frigid kite
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Damn

sonic willow
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cause mud can handle middle
and nearl kinda bursts down both phases of the boss

frigid kite
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Yeah its a niche called "Used things you like for whatsoever reason"

sonic willow
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Oh

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bagpipe

glass monolith
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BP S3 can 1v1 reality. Checked in CC

rough anvil
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Oh good, I wasn't the only person wondering when blue poison got an s3 KEKW

glass monolith
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daily dose of confusion because someone uses non community acceptable namings HellaKek

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flagpipe

gloomy panther
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Anyone know what is the most efficient way to kill the summoned shooter guy?

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monster

sonic willow
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surtr can do it

gloomy panther
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Can't use surtr since using it on the wolf

turbid badge
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just chuck anything with high defense

gloomy panther
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Do I need module on kal

vernal lion
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1000 x (1 + 0.1 + 0.5 + 0.65) x 2 = 2250 x 2 = 4500

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wow p2 dmg

turbid badge
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ewwww

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u didnt use gravel to help

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dosgusting 97 dp!

glass monolith
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Gravel already died to him, she just returned while i was screaming "CHARGE F- SKILL YOU ARE DYING"

sonic willow
vernal lion
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time to use Nian lol

glass monolith
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wait. FUCK. How do i stall Boss phase 2 if Eunectes kill cleaners LappDumb

sonic willow
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use shining s3 Sheew

rough anvil
# glass monolith

It's always interesting to see screenshots of what other people do because I saw this and just did a neat little ifrit lane and you've got people everywhere KEKW

glass monolith
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I can't get them killed if they die HellaKek

sonic willow
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that map is horn firing range

vernal lion
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Nian with mod2 and 2 healers are enough to stall boss p2 cm

gleaming lodge
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2 healers ?

sonic willow
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cool transform animation

gleaming lodge
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That's Skalter, NG and Saria mate

frigid kite
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I see 4 healers

vernal lion
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Skalter support, Nian mod2 is enough to stall with 2 healer

gleaming lodge
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I mean, sure, but that gif doesn't illustrate your point very well

vernal lion
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the dmg is still like ~900, but it's double

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or, you can just Shining and Nian skill cycle to stall

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if it's not about tough mobs, I just burst that wolf ass out of my map

glass monolith
hearty dock
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Um so what should I place to guard the silent cleaner thing

uneven turret
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Arts is better or if you have big pp phys dmg

hearty dock
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Okay ill try UWU

sonic willow
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mud+skalter afk holds btw

balmy halo
sonic willow
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middle

balmy halo
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ah icic

tidal sedge
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Need a guide for is s 2

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With Texas

kindred heron
kindred heron
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oh lmao

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yea IS-S-2 is kinda weird

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I stacked a lotta heavy stuff top side, bottom side can mostly be solo laned if you have Mountain or another self sustain op

glass monolith
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My god S-3 civilians don't move so long i summoned another cleaner.

kindred heron
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Optionally if you do have heli drops like nearlter or Surtr to go with Texalter you probably won't really have that much pressure on the low lane

tidal sedge
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I kinda use Chalter

glass monolith
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I'm not big fan of using OPrators, but S-4 CM is just such big Texalter bait i will try HellaKek

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I FORGOT VIGIL

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FUCK

foggy grove
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It's fun watching lee dodging cleaner

sharp wadi
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S2 just back to schwing schwing classic with lisk
Another strat just showed full array eben

tidal sedge
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Laneholder be like:

glass monolith
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I just realized....

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My best 1v1 cleaner tool

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Is S2 silverash

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Kill me

scarlet ledge
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lol

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oh ye minus

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exealt event mechanics is not fun

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just reading it

glass monolith
scarlet ledge
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other type of dp is lower dp regen

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i cant imagine ex stages layout

glass monolith
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I'm telling you they will jump into holes

scarlet ledge
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dont go on blue bix anymore

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get fucked by enemy

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cause of panics shit

glass monolith
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S-5 CM effect - Lapp Dumb Alter has more ATK in phase 2.
Bitch you not even gonna move in phase 2 with Elysium, Shamare, Eunectes, Pozy and Warf HellaKek

scarlet ledge
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kek

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letting boss move on phase 2

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with much damage is not fun

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so ye

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burst it

glass monolith
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I mean, not move, like literally. Eunectes stuns even Invul phase

scarlet ledge
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@glass monolith boss freezeable?

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i didnt read

glass monolith
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Phase 2 drops stun immunity

scarlet ledge
glass monolith
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And phase 1 is LappDumb

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fuck... Who will do cleaners on CM? HellaKek

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Stupidity of Silverass S2L7 won't hold

tidal sedge
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U bring physical dmg to face with high defense?

tidal sedge
glass monolith
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My Arts damage is goldenglow which targets ANYTHING ON MAP BUT LAPP DUMB ALTER HellaKek

glass monolith
tidal sedge
glass monolith
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Nooooo

tidal sedge
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Sayuna: Yes.

sly drift
tidal sedge
sly drift
balmy halo
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but the sniper is russian 🔥

glass monolith
sly drift
glass monolith
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750-1799? HellaKek I don't bother to even look at them now

waxen swan
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How much hoshi have

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Whatever she have is high

sly drift
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Around 900 iirc

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Iirc She is second in highest def to Nian

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And 32% dodge chance is kind of insane

waxen swan
#

Nian also have talent that increase def

glass monolith
#

Nain is HP. Hoshi is DEF

sly drift
#

Max HP too

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Yea

sly drift
subtle grove
#

Hi! Yesterday I managed to complete the IS-8 level of the event with low rarity operators, I have recorded it on video and I would like to share it for feedback, is this the right channel?

signal flicker
#

Is event ended?

somber falcon
balmy halo
#

(y the need for feedback tho)

subtle grove
#

better options when choosing operators (for example ambriel instead of shirayuki) or something like that

balmy halo
#

nah shirayuki is completely fine as the aoe needs in that stage is nasty nasty for low rarity

neat skiff
#

Yup, plus enemies have a tad too much defense for Ambriels liking.

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I would make a suggestion of swapping Lava for a higher rarity, but Greyy needs E2L35 before he has the same attack as Lava does now.

somber falcon
#

That already looks fine enough
Only big optimization i can see is take utage instead of jaye to deal with last enemy

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And deploy her faster so you don't need to deal with last cleaner

subtle grove
#

I thought on changing lava to pudding, would that work?

somber falcon
#

Pudding should work

neat skiff
#

On that stage might be a tad iffy since Lava can attack more than 4 targets at once.

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On most other stages, Pudding ftw.

near folio
#

Kirara worth building?

neat skiff
#

Exclusively waifu reasons.

near folio
#

Compared to other ambusher specs

neat skiff
#

She is arguably the worst operator in the game.

near folio
somber falcon
#

Oh indigo might also work there since she synergizes well with ethan

neat skiff
#

Her S1 is brutally slow. Her S2 is the most commonly used skill, but the uptime is terrible.

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If you want a dps ambusher then Mizuki S1 is what you want.

subtle grove
#

I tried with Indigo but i couldn't kill the enemies fast enough and they killed my defenders

somber falcon
#

I see DrudgeThink

sly drift
neat skiff
#

Otherwise ambushers are known for their CC. Ethans 84% chance to bind, Manticores slow or stun, Mizukis 2 or 3 target bind. Kirara offers dps and self regen.

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On a 3.5 second attack interval.

near folio
#

I see

neat skiff
#

There is just too much working against her for her damage to be so low.

subtle grove
#

Btw, thanks to everyone for the feedback

near folio
#

Is there any 5 stars that can hit Provence's dps potential?

weak gazelle
#

andreana

neat skiff
#

Yeah, Andreana hits like a truck if the enemy is above 50% hp.

near folio
#

I see

subtle grove
weak gazelle
#

or maybe kazemaru s2
if count second hit from her shadow as one unit

neat skiff
#

Kirara. 858 attack E2L80 + trust. No boost from module.
Attacks every 3.5 seconds.
S1M3 means every 10.5 seconds she will deal 2145 damage. 858 physical and 1287 arts. Offensive recovery.
S2M3 she deals 6864 arts damage over 8 seconds with a 30 second charge.

near folio
#

Damn how do I not have a single dollkeeper to this day

glass monolith
#

One is limited, other is free from event, other is kazemaru. how could you miss? HellaKek

near folio
#

I missed Bena SkadiDaijoubu

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And Kazemaru is like looking for a needle in a haystack

neat skiff
#

Yeah, 5 stars are rough to get.

tired grail
#

does someone has tips for IS-S-5? this stage makes me want to actually unalive myself AmiyaDonk

neat skiff
#

What's your squad?

glass monolith
neat skiff
#

The stage isn't so bad that you need to use Chinese censorship terms.

tired grail
sly drift
#

Bro you can legit just use hoshi s2 + Shining + random healer (Mayble ptilopsis) and it literally tank 2 cleaner

tired grail
#

failed all of them anyway

tired grail
glass monolith
# near folio Is it working?

With Ptilo and s2l7 he lived for me on normal stage, There is issue of HE NOT KILLING THEM AND HE DONT HOLD STACK OF THEM HellaKek

tired grail
#

i know i should be able to clear it but i'm fucking braindead i guess

foggy grove
#

can he even handle one on cm

tired grail
weak gazelle
#

borrow penance s3 i guess
its one of good way dealing with cleaner

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even better if have skalter too

neat skiff
#

Ok, so I see why you're struggling so much.

tired grail
near folio
sly drift
#

Relaying the immortals works too btw. If you have both 2 spectre and Surtr

tired grail
neat skiff
#

Zero medics that aren't Kal'tsit.

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There is a lot of damage in the stage.

tired grail
#

well i have warf but not E2, and NG is aoe

weak gazelle
#

heh?
my penance work well for is-8 she 3 hit kill cleaner with sora s2
well its is-8 not trying s map yet

tired grail
glass monolith
neat skiff
#

Without masteries there isn't all that much point.

weak gazelle
#

hmm
idk, for me +20% stat wont do much different

subtle grove
#

Is quartz worth building?

tired grail
#

Is there a way I can clear this ********** ? It drives me nuts RedOmegaLul

weak gazelle
#

if it too much, ease it with shamare s2

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usually i go with red/wai fuu+shamare for cleaner

#

sometime red dodge do wonder against cleaner

glass monolith
sly drift
#

Rng run looks tough HellaKek

neat skiff
#

Trying to think and only left side is like "easy enough" with middle and right wanting 2 different borrows.

tired grail
#

I tried borrowing pozemka, gg, didn't worked out LappDumb

glass monolith
#

I have them both and it works out LappDumb

neat skiff
#

Middle just wants skalter to boost Mudrock for cleaners. Right wants Shining to help keep Hoshi alive while ops dps the boss.

foggy grove
#

left he can hold with mud+soemthing to help dps like horn
Middle mon3r eat cleaner for breakfast

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right maybe borrow giga nian

somber falcon
#

Bag s3 can handle cleaner on mid just fine PodencoSip

tired grail
somber falcon
#

Mountain and a caster or two should suffice for left

foggy grove
#

with s3 up?

somber falcon
#

Ye
Wait you're asking abt kal nvm

neat skiff
#

Mon3tr can handle cleaners E2L90 and module.

tired grail
#

Guess I'll try again when I'll be home, istg this stage is such a pain not looking forward to CM

neat skiff
#

They just deal so much damage while angy.

tired grail
#

😭

weak gazelle
#

take it easy
still have few days to clear it

neat skiff
#

1208 damage every 1.5 seconds.
1449 in CM.

#

Better than the 8100 of CH 11 boss.

tired grail
#

Holy hell

neat skiff
#

With powercreep the devs solution was not to nerf operators, but to buff enemies.

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Part of that is trash tier enemies having more raw stats than some bosses.

balmy halo
neat skiff
#

Me when Mandragora has the same amount of health as Deathless Black Snake despite CH9 being a similar starting point as CH4.

glass monolith
wild wraith
#

It’s been a while since I picked up the game and I’m not sure what squad to use or what I need to do right now. Can I get some help?

balmy halo
#

where are u at and what do you have

wild wraith
#

I got stuck a long time ago but it somehow let me skip to chapter 9

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Also my squad at the moment is

balmy halo
wild wraith
#

I remember people telling me I’d need 2 of each type

neat skiff
#

Chapters 4-8 are one storyline. Chapters 9-current are a different storyline.

wild wraith
#

Let me check

rapid jewel
#

I would generally recommend against jumping right into chapter 9 even if the game does allow it. The only exception I would say is if you need specific materials that are unavailble in the previous chapters.

balmy halo
#

tbf they're kinda connected too so like i'd finish arc 1 first

rapid jewel
#

If you're looking for a place to start, simply trying to progress in the story (pre-ch 9) is always productive.

wild wraith
rapid jewel
#

As far as the squad you just showed us, it seems to be relatively well balanced.

balmy halo
#

u could replace kaltsit for general content for laneholding with penance if u e2 her

#

give ur passenger his module, upgrade it to m3

wild wraith
#

Penance I just got them I think

#

I need to figure out modules

balmy halo
#

for passenger, get the first module (if counting top down)

rapid jewel
#

Modules are an end-game upgrade to certain operators that improve their traits and talens, as well as offer modest stat buffs.

#

I say "end-game" but you can get the materials to craft them pretty early on.

#

They're just the pinnacle of upgrading an operator.

#

Not all operators have them yet though.

wild wraith
#

Ok, I will see if I can upgrade him then

rapid jewel
#

They are released per archetype (for example all "marksman snipers")

neat skiff
#

Also, not all operators have good modules.

rapid jewel
#

This is also true, some operators have modules that are not worth buidling because the talent/trait upgrades are very marginal.

balmy halo
# wild wraith

mudrock, horn, gnosis, irene are all good investments later on too

rapid jewel
#

Passenger is an example of a very worthwhile module however.

wild wraith
#

I have all of those I believe

balmy halo
#

mountain can be upgraded to replace thorns for content where theres not much aerial enemies

neat skiff
#

For Passenger you want module X. electromagnetic regulator.

glass monolith
rapid jewel
#

Yeah, I think they're looking at your operator list to give you ideas for who to target building.

wild wraith
#

Gotcha

rapid jewel
neat skiff
#

Oh, pause spam buff army.

wild wraith
#

Alright so it looks like I need to upgrade other units for now

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And work on modules

rapid jewel
#

well, none of those are a "need", it's just useful/good operators that people recommend building

#

I agree with most of the recommendations though

wild wraith
#

I feel like I got into the game due to story but because I got stuck I swamped out for a while

rapid jewel
#

other than Amiya, there are no mandatory operators to build

balmy halo
wild wraith
#

Ok

rapid jewel
#

yeah all these operators will definitely make clearing story stages easier

#

if that is your difficulty

balmy halo
#

its not like, theres other things to do aside from getting pulls and pulling other op units in the future anyway

rapid jewel
#

for sure, building operators is the major motivating factor to run content

#

you run content to get mats to build operators to run content to build mats to...

wild wraith
#

Yeah I love this game and I truly just wanted to be strong enough to get the story and got lost

rapid jewel
#

no worries

#

the difficulty ramps up pretty aggressively around chapters 6-7 so it's nothing to feel bad about if you got a little lost

neat skiff
#

Then after a while you run content to get rocks to get orundum to get new ops to get materials for.

wild wraith
#

I E230 most people then

#

After I did that I was just like now what

rapid jewel
#

have you invested in skill mastery for operators?

wild wraith
#

I should go back to where I got stuck before in previous chapters to see if I can clear now

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I don’t know

glass monolith
wild wraith
#

Other the Silverash

rapid jewel
#

mastering high value skills can give very substantial improvements in their performance, but it's expensive, so requires lots of farming

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you can tell if skills are mastered when you select an operator, the skills will have a series of dots in the corner, indicating whether it is mastery 1, 2, or 3 (max) with the corresponding number of dots

wild wraith
#

Yeah I haven’t done that yet

rapid jewel
#

no worries

#

that's a huge avenue for investing in operators

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if you're looking to improve the ones you already have built

balmy halo
#

the story isnt going anywhere so no rush

rapid jewel
#

an operator going from skill level 7 to mastery 3 in their best skill can be like night and day in terms of performance

#

so it's both a big investment, but also totally worth doing

wild wraith
#

Gotcha and so I guess I’m going to build out their skill mysteries but my current squad is ok?

balmy halo
#

ye

wild wraith
rapid jewel
#

it's a functional general purpose squad, yes, that said be aware that as missions get harder, the need to design special purpose squads for each and every stage will increase

#

don't expect the same static squad to be able to clear all stages

balmy halo
#

for boss stages, u might be forced to change though, but remember that thats normal

rapid jewel
#

a good general purpose squad can clear many stages, but the harder ones will force you to adapt

balmy halo
#

doesnt mean ur squad is too weak

rapid jewel
#

agreed

copper vale
#

wtf do you do for 11-12 adverse regarding support units if you can't set up fast enough without borrowing bagpipe but can't kill the stupid mobile defense turrets

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without borrowing eyja

rapid jewel
#

it's not a sign of a "bad squad" if you can't clear a stage with it, many stages have drastically different requirements

copper vale
#

stage feels fucked lol

balmy halo
#

ur actually in a good spot as u have a lot of good units that will be great for certain types of content when u level them

rapid jewel
#

11-12 give me a moment to refresh my memory of that map

wild wraith
#

Ok, I’m thinking that I invested so much into Silverash and Thorns and I love Lord Units

#

But everything else I’m not to familiar with

#

Also

rapid jewel
#

they are stand out units, but much of what makes them so good is their skills, not necessarily the fact that they are lords, the archetypes are only loose guidelines and many operators in the same archetype can be drastically different

wild wraith
#

I see

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So skill masteries for my units should be where I invest next

#

Silverash is literally the only one I’ve got at s3

glass monolith
#

Skill have "breakpoints" when getting specific mastery will have major impact on that skill:
Range increase
SP cost reduction (Or even make skill be ready on deploy)
Or just huge increase of effect

balmy halo
#

oh yea honorary investment suggestion:

#

lappland

neat skiff
#

Pre-emptive. You need a level 3 training room to get mastery 3.

rapid jewel
wild wraith
#

I never got Lapland sadly

balmy halo
#

she helps a lot if u choose to play the stultifera navis intermezzi

balmy halo
#

ok then ignore that lol

neat skiff
#

There are a bunch of ops with silence.

wild wraith
#

I am missing some random ones

rapid jewel
#

depends on the units you have available, but having one/two well supported units in the right-middle lane might be more DP efficient than trying to split it up

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if you're having problems getting enough DP in time

copper vale
#

bagpipe can kill eht tanks on the right with her skill, if I could survive the stupid first artillery barrage then I could actually set up to kill the mobile defense on the left

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but nothing I set up can survive those

#

anything on the right gets bopped and bagpipe also gets bopped even with nightingale shield

rapid jewel
#

have you tried baiting the artilerrly barrage using a cheap/disposable unit?

copper vale
#

yeah

rapid jewel
#

I believe each artillery tank can only fire once

copper vale
#

naw they have a cooldown

rapid jewel
#

oh

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a CD

#

right

balmy halo
#

do u have texas

copper vale
#

i do, and texas can't deploy at all on that side

rapid jewel
#

yeah those tanks spawn in a no-melee tile zone

copper vale
#

because left side is almost entirely melee tile banned

#

except for the one tile in front of the blue box

#

and if they make it that far you're fucked anyways lol

rapid jewel
#

to be clear, you wanna do this without borrowing supports right?

neat skiff
#

Left side is for ranged ops, right side is for melee.

copper vale
#

naw idm using supports

#

that's what i've been trying bagpipe and eyja with

rapid jewel
#

ah ok

#

you said you tried eyja on the left?

copper vale
#

but either side folds to random shit

rapid jewel
#

to kill the tanks?

balmy halo
#

which casters do u have

copper vale
#

yeah, she can't set up fast enough

#

not enough dp to deploy a distraction

neat skiff
#

You block off one side so they all go down the path you want.

rapid jewel
#

are you borrowing a rando's eyja or a friend's eyja?

copper vale
#

freind's

#

still s3m3

rapid jewel
#

ok

neat skiff
#

Like I typically block off the ranged path and go full on melee.

rapid jewel
#

is eyja getting killed by the artilery barrage?

copper vale
#

either eyja does or because i can't set up a beefy enough right side, they die

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and then eyja dies

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because nothing to distract them after

rapid jewel
#

do you or a friend have mlynar?

copper vale
#

yeah, friend has mlynar

rapid jewel
#

as long as you can keep him alive, he should be able to both bait the artillery strieks and kill those tanks

#

if you put him in one of those left melee tile hollow boxes

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and kill the tress as well

#

he might not be able to handle all of the right lane

#

not the enemies that come from the far right spawn

#

but he can probably take care of many of the enemies from the bottom red boxes

#

might take some experimentation with skill timing though

#

because once his bankai is over he's just chillin

balmy halo
#

do u use ptilopsis for right side

rapid jewel
#

either way his taunt could be useful for baiting artillery strikes

uncut shore
#

seriously, whoever designed that cleaner deserves to get their salary cut

rapid jewel
#

he is very beefy so can probably survive as long as you got a healer covering him

balmy halo
#

laneholder in right, mlynar in right, any caster can make short work ofthe artillery

rapid jewel
#

ah you're having mlynar facing opposite as I was thinking

balmy halo
#

just make sure a healer is also covering ur caster, since i observed that they kinda do a first hit on them if placed that way

rapid jewel
#

wait

balmy halo
rapid jewel
#

is this normal mode

#

map looks different

balmy halo
#

since he focuses

rapid jewel
#

think this person was asking for adverse

balmy halo
#

ohj

#

MY BAD LOL

#

wait

rapid jewel
#

no worries

#

the principle is sound though

#

you can use mlynar to biat artillery

#

and kill enemies

copper vale
#

no mountain

#

i wish

rapid jewel
#

while your casters can vape up the tanks

#

yeah true

#

you do need someone to hold the right lane

#

while you do this

#

but it's a solvable problem

balmy halo
#

which guards do u use for right side?

#

my only low rarity leveled guards are enmity so icant really make an example since they just die against the dogs lol

scarlet ledge
#

hmm

rapid jewel
#

mm maybe if you put mylnar in that corner melee tile? the one where the right red box and bottom right red box lanes intersect? facing down, I think he can cover all 3 lanes that way

#

he should still be able to bait artillery that way

#

and you need to keep him alive

#

but he's pretty tanky so should be doable

#

anyhow I got to get back to work, but good luck with the stage!

balmy halo
#

u could try something like this (i forgot that i didnt need bagpipe because u were gonna borrow mlynar, dont worry myrtle didnt ever use her skill)

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but do remember to activate ptilopsis skill tho

copper vale
#

got it

balmy halo
#

u can deploy mlynar a bit later, but he can still kill the artillery things

#

just make sure he doesnt yk. die from the twigs

copper vale
#

yeah, i used my horn+SA to juts burst down to twigs+rot eaters

#

when i had a moment

tired grail
#

That's insane

balmy halo
#

something like this? but ofc with better units than the ones mentioned

rapid jewel
balmy halo
copper vale
#

this is what i ended up using

#

courier to block initially, texas to kill the first few enemies that courier needed off of him>medics and mlynar to keep him alive long enough for shwing shwing, then horn+other shwing shwing to clear the twigs and steward to kill the tanks on angry tile

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amiya for when mlynar's skill was down to help kill anything that walked through him on courier

balmy halo
#

oh u had gg lol. mlynar's taunt is so strong for this chapter specifically. if u had nightingale it would have been even more cheese. who did u have for holding right side?

copper vale
#

gg didn't really get to do anything

#

everyone mentioned was pretty much on right side because mlynar killed the tanks from right

#

parked in front of cuora from your ss instead of on top of the twigs

near folio
#

H11 stages are weird

#

Feels like the devs didnt really think the stages through

#

H11-4 feels more anticlimactic than the rest

#

Final stage only 38 mobs

#

And on such a small map

#

And Steam Knight is already entering the blue box before half the stage even ended

glass monolith
vernal lion
#

damn I have skill issue with S-1 RedOmegaLul

glass monolith
vernal lion
#

honestly, I deployed op in wrong tile,
tried other placement for 3 times and I have solved it

glass monolith
#

i think i spend like 24 practice palns on S-1 alone

somber robin
glass monolith
#

Not my fault cars have "no" weight

#

Weedy just sneds every mob in this event flying

neat skiff
#

"Yeetus deletus"

near folio
#

Now that you mention it, I can't not use Weedy in this event

glass monolith
open mica
#

Save me!!! Reeeeee

latent anvil
#

eh youll be fine

#

just let them stand there for a while

#

wait wheres ur casters or snipers Bnuuy

#

4 defender 3 medic

glass monolith
#

Bottom assassin won't move his ass until like end of stage btw CeobeConfused

latent anvil
#

that squad is kinda insane

foggy grove
#

what to save

open mica
#

Stalling strategy

latent anvil
foggy grove
#

yeah you have more then enough

glass monolith
#

Entire event is stall fest for me

latent anvil
#

even s5?

near folio
#

This entire event is just Mlynar victim

glass monolith
near folio
#

Tbh the elite version of the cleaners are surprisingly tanky

glass monolith
#

Just because boss die faster than i deployed my ops doesn't mean stage is over

near folio
#

It takes one full activation of Blemi's S3M3 to kill one

foggy grove
#

i've been using ntr s1 a lot this event

latent anvil
#

i much prefer ntrk s3

open mica
#

Hoshi is a lot more tanky than I thought I can’t lose here

foggy grove
#

moduled hoshi is a good brick

glass monolith
#

I love how it is not 2 preplaced hitmans and 1 new, but 1 of preplaced and 2 new instead

near folio
foggy grove
#

my brick is mlynar HellaKek

open mica
#

Zamn

near folio
#

On hindsight Bubble is a better defender for today's standards

#

But she came too late for me

glass monolith
#

True brick would be Nian if Roberta shields would trigger her talent

near folio
#

I've already formed a connection with Cuora

foggy grove
#

and lee

#

i should raise a proper brick after this event
been using sria for all the tanking

near folio
#

Saria does fall flat to some advanced bosses

#

She has a really good stalling breakpoint with her S1M3

#

But her weakness is just straight up getting one shotted

#

Looking at phase 2 Blood Knight in NL-EX 8 CM and Steam Knight

foggy grove
#

i used her to tank bloodknight

#

steamknight with sham and burst fast

near folio
#

She can stall steam knight with help of Sham and Roberta

balmy halo
near folio
#

But brick defenders you can just put on their skills and afk for a good 40 seconds

glass monolith
#

I tanked steam knight with 60% damage reduction Skadi because i could, so i did, and i will do it again

gray stone
#

tf is this rainbow doing here

#

Which flavor of nuke does Zaaro wants btw

near folio
#

Now that I have a fully moduled Gladiia I can do damage reduction shenanigans, especially knowing that silence alter will be welfare

foggy grove
#

the boss loves strolling

#

so they gave him so many stairs

balmy halo
gray stone
#

"Condition: Signore De Lupi DEF increase"

#

lmao Surtr time

near folio
balmy halo
#

btw who is jerboa

near folio
#

Since his gimmick is making ur ops die if u dont kill him fast enough

gray stone
#

image included

glass monolith
near folio
#

I always use my elysium wrong

glass monolith
gray stone
#

yeah just nuke him

near folio
glass monolith
scarlet ledge
#

so pro

scarlet ledge
gray stone
scarlet ledge
#

oh

#

i didnt notice doe

near folio
#

Its nice that all the recent welfare ops seems to be good

scarlet ledge
#

i melted the boss

glass monolith
#

"DEF increased" = FLAT +100 DEF RedOmegaLul

foggy grove
#

i didn't deel any difference

near folio
#

Tequila, Bena, Mint, Gladiia and Silence Alter

scarlet ledge
#

using eune s3, franka s2, tequila s3

#

with sora bufifng them

near folio
#

Tbh Shalem is also a decent welfare