strategy

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

im running out of bars even w/o bar

Her*

[latent anvil]

im on 4 bar again

i was on 3 bar and then i ran out on the 30th

[turbid badge]

lmao i should probably do 3 bar

[latent anvil]

cant even save it with green cert, so im just gonna stick 4 bar for now

i been doing all my alt ops tasks... free stuff... right? well half of them arent terrible investments

and by half i mean kroos alt and skadi maybe

[gentle finch]

you got baited

[latent anvil]

its like a partial refund for levelling, its not bad

[turbid badge]

I did all my alts i could

lol

It was nice since my last 2 were gavial and specter

[turbid badge]

yea exactly

if i do raise them later i wont get the benefits

[gentle finch]

the copium is real

[fathom saffron]

Can Hoshi tank Steam Knight's charged attack at H11-4

My Hoshi keeps dying, idk if I need to M3 her S2 or lv hee to 90

[latent anvil]

nian mod2 high lvl can

hoshi cannot

hoshi can with dodge, but that is just dodge rng

[fathom saffron]

😭

[latent anvil]

if you borrow a maxed nian (modlvl 2/3 very important) you can tank it easily

[fathom saffron]

Will borrow, thanks af 🙏

[latent anvil]

[lucid mirage]

What's the atk buff on his phase 2?

[latent anvil]

er

[gentle finch]

he doesn't get one

just aspd increase

pretty dumb if you ask me

[lucid mirage]

Then Hoshi s2m3 with the def up mod should be able to tank it no?

She hits 1.54k def

His atk is 1800

3 hits

Which makes it less painful the patriot

.....ngl, I have my doubts that there's no atk buff.

[latent anvil]

the three hit is 1.25* the 1800

[lucid mirage]

That makes more sense.

Hoshi can still take it though.

(1800×1.25-1541)×3=2127. Hoshi has over 3.5k hp.

Even at at e2 60 s2m3, mod y 2, Hoshi takes 3084 dmg and has 3513 hp.

[lucid mirage]

Sounds like a healing issue ngl. Try bringing along shining s2 and skalter. Make sure to have NG cause the missiles are arts dmg.

[latent anvil]

no

its cm

well idk mod math

but cm gives stat buffs

i think its 2700 per hit

[gentle finch]

mfw i leak 7 mantas because no stun in squad

[latent anvil]

(2700x3)

so maybe with max mod she can live, but she doesnt live with 2k hp

[lucid mirage]

[gleaming lodge]

Are we talking about "who can survive steamknight punch" for the morbillionth time ?

[latent anvil]

sadly

its better than a certain individual coping texas vg>siege in #help

[gleaming lodge]

?

Texas > Siege

What are you on mate ?

Am I getting 🎣'd

[latent anvil]

texas vg

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah the vanguard

[latent anvil]

oh quick squid

go join in #help im serious

[gleaming lodge]

Siege is garbage as a vanguard

[latent anvil]

im not gonna argue with you

[gleaming lodge]

ok buddy

If you're still coping with Siege you're left in 2020 anyway

Not much I can do for you

[dense cedar]

god bless your heart squid

fellow texas user

[gleaming lodge]

Do I look like I use vanguards ?

[dense cedar]

in spirit

[gleaming lodge]

My spirit is natural DP gen and > 20 DP units

[rough anvil]

Using units greater than 20 dp without vanguards sounds painful

[gleaming lodge]

That's the story of defenderknigths

Sometimes you are far into a map

And you realise you want to redeploy your 72 cost Mudrock and 68 cost Vulcan
And huh
You cry

[gentle finch]

emotional story

made me cry

[gleaming lodge]

Why is the DP cap on all stages 99...

It's nothing

That's like 2 ops for me if I have to redeploy a lot

[storm current]

The way defenderknight generate dp is uh
Stall until natural regen give enough

[gleaming lodge]

Nah

We have one technique

It's called "DP banking"

Basically, when you are going to overflow on DP, you deploy someone in a corner (if you have a "useless op" around)
Let's say for 40 DP, so whenever you need 20 DP, you just retreat them

This is particularly useful when you need to change setup after a long stall

If operator A isn't useful for the next part, just have them be the DP bank

I belive defknights is the only niche that actively uses this, although it is still quite rare

[turbid badge]

wtf

dollkeeper wipes off exu buff

after switching forms

[storm current]

Ye

They count as redeploy

If you have relics like

+70aspd for 10s after deploy

They reset that too

Or +2 shield on deploy

But if you have relic like, +300 def 30 res after 100s, they lose the buff if switch form

[ocean herald]

help pls @gentle finch

[vital arrow]

Just

[gentle finch]

ok

[vital arrow]

Put lappland on toplane

Ptilo in the middle ranged tile

[gentle finch]

↑

[last marsh]

lap behind mrytle facing down

[vital arrow]

Defender on bottom lane wih pozy

Why is this so hard

[gentle finch]

drop Texas on anything you don't like

[vital arrow]

[gentle finch]

on S3

this is the first time someone asked for help and I thought it was a joke

[ocean herald]

ok

[ocean herald]

I actually need help

[gentle finch]

it's fine

[last marsh]

id say save texas for top lane mages to protect lap

[vital arrow]

This better be a joke

[ocean herald]

I just dont know where to put my ops

[gentle finch]

try what kerf said

the stage is very simple

[ocean herald]

ok

[ocean herald]

Im not joking or trolling

[gentle finch]

let me markup the stage

[ocean herald]

I actually dont know how to win...

[vital arrow]

You eve have jaye

[gleaming furnace]

why do you play ch6 when we have event?

[vital arrow]

He can also silence

Texalt s1 can also silence

[ocean herald]

The event is kind of boring

I want to do more challenge mode

[ocean herald]

ok

[gentle finch]

why the hell this image so high quality

anyways

red is ptilo facing down
blue is specter
pink is pozy facing left
green is lappland facing left
purple is jaye on any skill really, two silence in one lane is redundant so probably S2
drop Texas alter S3 on anything looking dangerous

Irene can stay where she is

[ocean herald]

ok

thanks

[last marsh]

somehting likt this, switch mountain to pen later, drop texas for top lane mages

[ocean herald]

I’ll try later

I got no sanity rn

[vital arrow]

Practice plans

Like how does irene even leak

Is she on S1 or something

[dusky grove]

Frozen ig

And flooded

[last marsh]

montain died top too i assume

[ocean herald]

I forgot that was a thing my fault

[ocean herald]

what

no

s3

[vital arrow]

Wow mountain dying in toplane is a miracle actually

[gleaming furnace]

6-12 cm is more ice waves, can't really put someone in the crystal range unless you just use them for blocking

[last marsh]

he has lap and poz, all bot need is blocking

[gentle finch]

my strat i just did in my head so i will try in game now to perfect it

not like i have anything better to do rn

(i do)

[last marsh]

you do, more rocks

[hollow flume]

I tried using low rarity units but idk if you have them. I borrowed a fartooth s3 for one of the lanes, set up a defender and just used texas as a panic button

[turbid badge]

whattt why fartooth

[hollow flume]

Idk

[turbid badge]

oh u have a e2

[hollow flume]

Borrowed

Lol

[turbid badge]

lol just borrow blaze

[ocean herald]

yeah thanks

[gentle finch]

lmao

cool

[hollow flume]

It was done anyways

[turbid badge]

oh

boice

noice

[vital arrow]

How

[ocean herald]

the ice makes it too difficult to place ops

imo

[vital arrow]

How did lappland die

[gentle finch]

ligma

[ocean herald]

I retreated her

[turbid badge]

lol

[hollow flume]

If I was using my own squad i would just use ambriel s2 and fartooth to kill slugs

[vital arrow]

That's a pretty bad move

Considering she disables the slugs

[hollow flume]

Not when frozen

[vital arrow]

How did she even get frozen

[hollow flume]

Caster ice wave

[vital arrow]

When she disables the frozen source

Theres only 2 per wave

[hollow flume]

They don't really target specifically the one with abilities

So it could have just hit something else

Idk

[vital arrow]

And if you deploy your medic after lappland they get baited

[hollow flume]

[ocean herald]

it was towards the very end

[vital arrow]

They only do the freezing atk every 3 attacks

[cursive wedge]

if only lumen

[ocean herald]

also could yall help me for IS-S-5

that stage is harder than ex-8-cm?

[turbid badge]

is s stages are out?

[ocean herald]

no

but when they do come out

can yall help

im not good at this game

[cursive wedge]

no

[vital arrow]

It's not even out yet

Wait until its up

Ask again

[turbid badge]

oh

[ocean herald]

how hard is is-s-5

[hollow flume]

What is not out

[vital arrow]

Ask the CN players probably

[cursive wedge]

it’s s-5 so should be kinda difficult

[turbid badge]

theres alot of stairs

iirc

[cursive wedge]

nl s5 was kinda rough

[turbid badge]

ye ask the spies

[cursive wedge]

or 4

[hollow flume]

[ocean herald]

how about is it harder than ex-8-cm

[gentle finch]

well i did it anyways

[vital arrow]

Rule of thumb is

S stages are harder than ex stages

[cursive wedge]

imagine mo stage

[gentle finch]

penance reflect just kills the spiders regardless lmao

[hollow flume]

Wait you could also do a unit with reflect dmg and just let them get frozen

While healing them

[cursive wedge]

or use lumen and not get frozen

[gentle finch]

specter took caster aggro

drop Texas when something looked steamy

[hollow flume]

Lemme try it with only 3star and under

[gentle finch]

Knowing this event the S stages will probably be easy

[ocean herald]

damn

[vital arrow]

Pretty sure beagle kroos and lava can do botlane

It's literally just slugs

[hollow flume]

Imma try it

I just realize i don't have beagle or lava built 💀

[gentle finch]

h

[frigid kite]

[gentle finch]

i maxed my lava to follow a 7-16 guide

but she didn't work

[ocean herald]

is-s-5 cm doesn't look too hard

it seems like there are only 2 of the cleaners

less cross bow men as well

[gentle finch]

I refused to build shifters

they still e0

i made my own strat

[ocean herald]

cross bow men and the famiglia cleaners made is-ex-8 cm annoying..

[gentle finch]

I used Shamare + la pluma S2 to burst the heralds

was fun

[ocean herald]

the boss is weak af on it's own

[gentle finch]

event too easy

[ocean herald]

the main problem are the cleaners

lol

is-cm-ex-8 had 4...

I think this one only has 2 or 3

[storm current]

No protector tanker?

You may borrow nian if needed

[gentle finch]

i think he cleared already

[sonic willow]

you followed a bad guide

believe in your lava bro

[gentle finch]

I believe in myself more 🔥

[cursive wedge]

i wanna build penance but i have mats for vigil

what do i do

[turbid badge]

hi

[gentle finch]

Hi

[turbid badge]

build vigil for what reasons!

[gentle finch]

follow your fart

heart*

[turbid badge]

actually his gun is kinda cool

[cursive wedge]

six star reasons

[cursive wedge]

i love my fart

i have 9 t2 vg chips and 0 defender chips

[hollow forum]

[cursive wedge]

[latent anvil]

but vg and defender dont go together

vg and supporter do

[hollow forum]

welp then you'll have to wait until the event is done to build penance

[latent anvil]

i would know that because i had 26 vg and 2 supporter for my skalt

[hollow forum]

unless you want to spend your sanity during the event to farm the mats instead of rocc

[cursive wedge]

7 medic chips

[hollow forum]

im also debating whether to keep farming rocc or guard chips for quartz

[turbid badge]

omg

save it for mumu wtf!!

[gentle finch]

I was gonna e2 ptilo just now but had no chips

[turbid badge]

i have so much supporter chips but they probably gonna go into istina,tsuk,querc, and ncd

[latent anvil]

26 vg 25 spec and 20 medic

nice

[gentle finch]

yeah the stainless pack gave me a lot of supporter chips

[turbid badge]

omg water whale

real

[latent anvil]

wtf rich

[gentle finch]

☹️

[cursive wedge]

[gentle finch]

rip bozo

[turbid badge]

lol

[cursive wedge]

imma do it

[turbid badge]

that was me with roberta

[cursive wedge]

but it’s a silly idea

[turbid badge]

shes cheap and cute so i just e2

just do it real

Tactican modules will make him better trust

[cursive wedge]

[storm current]

2024 trust

[cursive wedge]

he looks cool at least

[open mica]

I thought he look like a girl with short hair

[cursive wedge]

oh wait i can use him in is-s-4 now

[hollow forum]

at least you can cope that you're maxing him out for base purposes

[cursive wedge]

well…

[turbid badge]

243?

[cursive wedge]

yea

[open mica]

Oh….. you have pozy….

[turbid badge]

STONKS

lol whyd ya delete that

[cursive wedge]

[open mica]

Cause it didn’t look good

[turbid badge]

When jm rich ill raise him

Rn poor

[open mica]

Me also poor

[cursive wedge]

how do incorporate him in base

[gentle finch]

pair with proviso

[turbid badge]

Yea

pair w pro

Provisio + Palico + Vigil ( Or Cheeto) stonks

[gentle finch]

dusk with aspd is so funny

[open mica]

Hmm

[cursive wedge]

palico

who

[turbid badge]

i forgot the name lol

its coming in MH

41% tp

[hollow forum]

Terra research commission or smth like that

[turbid badge]

or u can just use mr nothing

[cursive wedge]

ahhhh

[turbid badge]

if u have them all built

[cursive wedge]

e0 fine?

[turbid badge]

76%

[sly drift]

3 attempt IS2 and zero medic until floor 4
Curse this damn mode

[cursive wedge]

oh nvm

[turbid badge]

75% tp

[cursive wedge]

[turbid badge]

real

[open mica]

[gentle finch]

noob excuse

[open mica]

I made a no medic run in IS3

[gentle finch]

Cleared D6 with no medics

I leaked like one enemy throughout the entire run

[storm current]

wish granted

5 medic recruit in a row

[turbid badge]

me w saria and blem

[turbid badge]

[gentle finch]

this actually happened to me before

yesterday

[storm current]

i heard you need medic

so i gave you medic only

[gentle finch]

I was so flabbergasted I asked if you could only get medic recruits while doing monthly mapping

[turbid badge]

is reedic even good in IS3

[gentle finch]

according to Kermit, no

[storm current]

not exactly

enemies have too much res

[turbid badge]

the enemy res is

yea

[cursive wedge]

that’s not all that bad

[gentle finch]

he did it

[turbid badge]

is ur jaye e2

or something

[cursive wedge]

yurr

[turbid badge]

o

[open mica]

I still hate the Silencer in Il Siracusano.

[cursive wedge]

eh id rather not use vigil

prob just for clues

only

[turbid badge]

who else do u even use there

cliff?

[gentle finch]

cliffheart More useful than vigil

[sharp swallow]

How would someone go about killing “The First To Talk”. Literally instant Nervous impairment

[gentle finch]

🔥

[gentle finch]

surtr

[cursive wedge]

courier

cliff not built

[gentle finch]

you could also do Irene stray

strat

Warf + Irene

[turbid badge]

Gravel bait

and than

[gentle finch]

for risk18 you needed mulberry S2

[turbid badge]

Just kill

[gentle finch]

but for daily

probably don't

and bait yeah

[cursive wedge]

use horn

[turbid badge]

u can also use schwarz

Theres straight lines

Or pozy

[gentle finch]

I actually did Exu + warf

lmfao

you can leak one as well

if you want to

[turbid badge]

yea

u can leak Q

1

honestly mlynar isnt great for this guy

cuz his taunt screws him over

lol

[gentle finch]

💀

[thorny summit]

omg

[gentle finch]

I did a bit of stalking

[thorny summit]

Where'd u find that..

[gentle finch]

anyways

[thorny summit]

It hadn't even loaded..

Also I meant h6-2

[gentle finch]

yeah

is your spalter off mod or just doesn't have module

and is your surtr M3

[turbid badge]

get her mod please

lol

[thorny summit]

She doesn't have module

And my surtr isn't me

M3

[gentle finch]

ok

cool

[thorny summit]

She's m1

[gentle finch]

I haven't played this stage in a while

So i will clear it with similar squad to yours

and tell you what i did

[thorny summit]

Kk ty

[sharp wadi]

Just GG

This stage so ez

[sonic willow]

what's h6-2 again

[sharp wadi]

Lizard with red tile

[gentle finch]

thrower stage

the one dreamt used for lin showcase

dreamy

[sonic willow]

hmmm

oh the maze one?

[sharp wadi]

Just intersection

[sonic willow]

well

you just draft a bunch of ranged units and bully the melees

[mossy chasm]

Any advice for IS-EX-8? I can't seem to survive the boss after it's defeated once

https://krooster.com/u/Erdryc

That's my roster

[fallen chasm]

Stun

[mossy chasm]

Lappland?

[sonic willow]

prep your brick defender skill

[gentle finch]

k done

[astral oyster]

Texas alter can cancel a lot of his phase 2 attacks since he is not stun immune in p2

[gentle finch]

@thorny summit

[storm current]

you can use specter too

[gentle finch]

do you mind borrowing

[thorny summit]

No

[thorny summit]

I don't mind

[gentle finch]

borrow hoshiguma or nian

[storm current]

specter shoud last long enough until the boss lose invisible frame

[gentle finch]

put her like that next to thorns

[thorny summit]

Kkk

[gentle finch]

anyways

that's not all

[thorny summit]

I have all those but hoshi and the little bitch that's above thorns

[sharp wadi]

Ez

[gentle finch]

any medic works

anyways

for top lane you need a lot of management with gravel, ling and Texas

so that spalter doesn't leak

[thorny summit]

My Texas is only E1

[gentle finch]

i know

i used s2

[thorny summit]

ooh ok

[gentle finch]

anyways

[sharp wadi]

S2 works her skill just like two modes

[gentle finch]

you wanna have a dragon behind Spalter early

as emergency

[thorny summit]

Big dragon or little ?

[sharp wadi]

Any

[gentle finch]

uhm

[thorny summit]

and doni use Spalter s2 or S3

[sharp wadi]

Even different skill

[gentle finch]

use spalger s2

anyways

big dragon might die after a bit

but you can try

[turbid badge]

te

[gentle finch]

and just spam goldenglow skill

[thorny summit]

Kk

Thajknyew

[gentle finch]

Ok, in summary @thorny summit
We want a ling dragon behind Spalter
If spalter is going to fight a bunch of possessed and you know she'll die if she starts to block, drop gravel or Texas alter in front of her to buy time. The dragon behind her is really a failsafe. Activate ling skill in high pressure (if Spalter leaks enemy)
And spam goldenglow skill
You also have surtr so use her well

[thorny summit]

kk ty im gonna try it right now

[gentle finch]

yeh

lol if your Spalter was modded she would've probably handled top lane with ling dragons

also thinking about it now, you can have a big dragon with a little dragon behind it and every time it dies you can just make a new one quickly
if you do this, probably no need for the gravel bullshit

I'll try that rn actually

[thorny summit]

i finished it ^-^

2 things leaked but like whatever i just wanted to complete it

[gentle finch]

didn't work

anyways

GG ig

where did you leak

[thorny summit]

towards the end

everyone died

[gentle finch]

which lane

top?

[thorny summit]

bottom and top

[gentle finch]

how did bottom die

[thorny summit]

they overpowered hoshi

and then everyone else fell

and then when myrtle died i lost a lot of dp

[zenith panther]

uh guys, new player here just wanted some tips for a team i have more characters that i can upgrade if they work better

[gentle finch]

i guess the Hoshi i used was too good

[thorny summit]

the hoshi i used was e2 lvl 30

[gentle finch]

i used a modded one

was the Hoshi S2

@thorny summit

for top lane you can just drop surtr on it at the end

[turbid badge]

remove plume

no need for 2 chargers

add a marksmen sniper

(kroos)

and if u dont have texas, its suggested to reroll for her

[gentle finch]

man

i wanted to try strat with cuora

but no support

[zenith panther]

oh that's not my team, just some of my chars for context

i am only using this atm

[gentle finch]

I need to build a real brick ngl

abyssals are fake

[zenith panther]

oh no the reroll...i am not sure if it's fast to reroll in this game?

[turbid badge]

me when bot enough defense

[gentle finch]

it takes like 4 mins

[turbid badge]

ots pretty fast in AK tbh

[gentle finch]

or less

[turbid badge]

learn the reroll strat

Its on YT

u close after first thing nd u skip the whole tur

lol

[gentle finch]

you exit the second tutorial stage by pressing back

[turbid badge]

Tutorial

[next cradle]

Can someone help me with EX-8 in the event, struggling a lot. The team I’ve tried is with this post.

[gentle finch]

and then when they make you play 0-1

you just exit the stage

[turbid badge]

ye

[gentle finch]

then claim the stuff in mail

and pull

[scarlet ledge]

holy

pro

[turbid badge]

pro

[gentle finch]

use Texas S3

anyways

I will try

can't really replicate your squad tbh

but It might give you general idea

[zenith panther]

can i just create guest acc and then link them to a mail or smth later if it's good?

[turbid badge]

guest doesnt reset

[zenith panther]

auch

[storm current]

@zenith panther https://bit.ly/AKReroll

[turbid badge]

just add +1

[zenith panther]

[scarlet ledge]

holy s3m3 rosmon is done

[turbid badge]

noice

on which acc

[storm current]

you would trust a spreadsheet more than a youtube video with clickbait thumbnail wouldnt you

[scarlet ledge]

main duh

alt dont have ros

[thorny summit]

@gentle finch can u try H6-3 cuz that ones really hard tew

[gentle finch]

xd

[gentle finch]

im tryna help this guy

one sev

sec

[sharp wadi]

Show me everything about your ops

[latent anvil]

leite is texas vg or siege better

[sly drift]

Anyone remember what event Lumen mod2 will come?

[gentle finch]

yes please help him

I'll help the other guy

[gentle finch]

alright

[foggy grove]

chungus event

[gentle finch]

aha

H6-3

I think I have handheld this stage the most

[sly drift]

I just mod 1 him and immediately regret it knowing there will be 2nd mod

Like what? This shit isn't what I want

[gentle finch]

oh im dumn

you don't have exu or mlynar

welp

new strat time

repostinf this cuz

[scarlet ledge]

wtf is that

so pro

[gentle finch]

wtf

i was clearing stage and my phone shut itself off

it didn't even die

[scarlet ledge]

[gentle finch]

I got the strat though

I'll hook him up in a sec

[sly drift]

Lappland bro.. geez

[scarlet ledge]

wtf use lappland

[sly drift]

[next cradle]

What do you need to know? Full post of all ops?

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye tf is that liskarm

[next cradle]

@sharp wadi @gentle finch

[gentle finch]

he didn't say he had lappland

so i will not use her

[scarlet ledge]

water based

[sly drift]

Use Texalt s1 works too

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

[gentle finch]

i got around there before the phone randomly shut off

[scarlet ledge]

wtf ling do there

[gentle finch]

but the gist is what you see there + Texas alter S2 to kill the ergates at the spawn

[gentle finch]

failsafe

she can preload skill

and if i need panic button just drop dragon and activate skill

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

do mine

[sly drift]

It's called safe tile

[gentle finch]

Spalter is deployed first, she may leak a dog if you don't activate skill

i put thorns right after

@thorny summit

[thorny summit]

TY

[gentle finch]

also surtr there activates her skill in like

5 seconds

when the sword guys walk out

[gentle finch]

ok cool

im gonna cry

oh you have exu

[scarlet ledge]

@gentle finch https://youtu.be/Fc1Z6VQEXKU

[gentle finch]

:trolldespair:

[scarlet ledge]

best h6-3 clear

[gentle finch]

@next cradle I kinda rarity abused ex-8 so i might take long

[next cradle]

Fair, I appreciate the help.

[gentle finch]

Honestly I don't even know what blood debt is

LOL

[next cradle]

I know my roster isn’t amazing, only been playing for two months. 😅

[gentle finch]

nah it's pretty good

[sharp wadi]

Just one dude has invis and kill everything

[gentle finch]

well i figured that out

i think it buffs enemies too

[sly drift]

It buff all enemies.

[gentle finch]

but idk if it does anything else

[next cradle]

Yeah, those guys are a pain during blood debt. They lose invis and super power after blood debt.

[sharp wadi]

Well borrow mlynar for wolf, top left is for hitman

[next cradle]

Been borrowing them to nuke the first wave. Gotten the wolf to second faze then get nuked

[scarlet ledge]

who is tsnking wolf phase 2?

[next cradle]

Trying Curoa.

[scarlet ledge]

and ur medic?

[bright swan]

why is life not fair

[gentle finch]

hm

ill try a thing

[next cradle]

Perfumer, Gavial and Ansel

[sly drift]

Hoshi harem works too bro.. wolf phase 2 literally doesn't do damage

[sonic willow]

wha

[sly drift]

If you have bad dps you can stall as long as you want and wait until wolf die,

[bright swan]

priest's hp

[sly drift]

Ur only problem would be red lizard. You can use strongest dps to fight him

[sharp wadi]

I would recommend only kal

[foggy grove]

does hoshi really need that 4 medics

[sly drift]

It's actually overheals
I thought wolf is much stronger than that

But well.. it works. This stage main problem is wolf, cars and lizard. If you can stall wolf, kill all cars earlier and don't let lizard stay longer. You would be fine

[gentle finch]

the fuck

i used a Max Nian and she still fucking died

[foggy grove]

sussy nian

[gentle finch]

i tried Hoshi before

[sly drift]

Nian weak. Hoshi stronk

[foggy grove]

does she even has mod

[gentle finch]

i just said i used a Maxed nian

of course she is modded

or else she not maxed

i was using basic medics

would need medic with burst heal

[sly drift]

Why you use hps medic

*Heal per second

Use burst and relay it

Warf might be bad choice too. You need burst

[gentle finch]

im going off what the guy has

he can use nearl for extra healing behind the tank

[sly drift]

She would die by lizard no joke.

[gentle finch]

no

she didn't die

the lizard died

the tank died from the periodic HP loss

[sly drift]

It's good then.
That 4 tiles is designed to be killed by lizard.

[gentle finch]

didn't dps boss quick enough

so it racked up too fast

this guy has nothing to burst boss besides eyja ngl

I'll try eyja S3, was using her S2 for extra DMG

[sly drift]

I legit use Ebenholz which deals like 40 dmg per hit with skill

Just stall longer actually

I deploy Eyja to replace him

[gentle finch]

oh shit i did it

wow

[sly drift]

[gentle finch]

That was painful

anyways

@next cradle I'll tell you what I did

it should be replicable

this setup for first phase

just stall hard until he dies

then undeploy nian

keep warf and eyja there

now, for the left lane we keep warf and eyja there because we can bait and stall the assassins with Texas and gravel until blood debt is over

then warfarin on s1 can heal a blocker to kill him normally

even my E1 gravel off skill could tank the assassin while blood debt is off

you can kill him with Texas the Omertosa

anyways, for the boss: (phase 2)

don't do what i did

you see on the left there's nothing deployed

keep the left setup i mentioned earlier

more blood debt guys walk out

i had to scramble to redeploy

(mod3 Nian needed) this message has nothing to do with what i said above

on the right everytime it looks like Nian might die just drop Texas alter on him to stun

regular Texas also has stun

[next cradle]

I’ll give it a shot, thank you so much for the help!

[gentle finch]

👍

as you can see i had two free slots

can fill with whatever

to make it easier

hardest part is probably finding a mod3 nian

the one i used was S2M3 as well..

(I know in my heart there is some mlynar burst strat possible with your squad but I'm tired rn, maybe if this doesn't work for you someone else might come along and help)

one thing I forgot to mention

I used Texas alter to kill the guys at the top (during the early part of the stage) to trigger blood debt early, before the boss reaches by Nian so that I can have time to kill the assassin
this makes it so that when the boss reaches i don't have to kill an assassin while tanking the boss

[copper vale]

full krooster: https://krooster.com/u/Oromis
so, this is the setup I tried to do the first time around for is-ex-8, and the problem I kept running into was that one of my defenders either blocking the extra enemies or zaaro would keel over, and ranged op placement was difficult because texas had to keep clearing archers and stalling the hitman
Zaaro also can't pass the right tile to that middle crossway, or he stops being in Horn's range unless I punt her back a tile, which also limits how many tiles she can hit him from

CM I'm not quite sure how to tackle, because when I cleared normal mode I just borrowed Ling with skalter s2 at only level 7, though she has m2 now on it but idk how much of a difference that'd make
Someone in the other chat mentioned it was doable with s1, but I've also never used her s1 so idk how that'd work.
@lucid mirage

cuora should be in there but i forgot to add her

[lucid mirage]

What level is cuora btw?

[copper vale]

initial attempts I just used amiya+horn s3+gg s1 to brute force phase 1, and then only had horn+silverash s3 for p2

nooot high enough

sl7 e1-40

so off skill she implodes almost immediately to hitman and zaaro

i tried borrowing kal originally as well, but mon3tr would die pretty quickly if he got any amount of focus

[latent anvil]

Mlynar exist

[copper vale]

my current train of thought is see if I can make ling+skalter s1 work, but i'm not sure what else needs to go into that to make it work

because i only get one extra deploy slot if I have three big dragons+ling+skalter

borrowed mlynar comes at the cost of not being able to borrow someone who can actually block and not die from my roster

[lucid mirage]

Yeah, Hoshi s2 is your lord and savior rn.

Worship the tol oni.

Gimme a bit to record a clear with your ops.

[copper vale]

honestly i'm not sure if i'm just a complete dipshit or if it's a genuinely difficult map unless you already have really tanky defenders and I just never built them because a lot of early content was just solved by "get more damage"

[lucid mirage]

I mean, this map can be solved by more damage.

You just don't have Surtr Chalter and Eyja.

[vernal lion]

Chalter can solo dmg

[copper vale]

yeah, i picked GG from the 6 star voucher because she solved a lot more issues for me at the time

[drifting iron]

me hate ranged enemy

[copper vale]

than eyja or surtr would have

[sonic willow]

is this the current selector

[copper vale]

yeah

[sonic willow]

rip

[copper vale]

y rip

ik she gets a joint banner soonish but i'm not rolling on that

[analog kiln]

the rip is cuz u dont have surtr

[sonic willow]

bro asked during ketsura troll shift

[copper vale]

when i asked on another server for advice on it, I think I got advice between bagpipe/GG/surtr, and my rationale for not taking surtr at the time was because I already hit texas and for most things she does what surtr would have done for cheaper

[vernal lion]

oh we will get CC11 after the event ends

[copper vale]

this is just not one of those things

[sonic willow]

it's just terrible logic

I have surtr, should I have skipped texas? no

[copper vale]

also at the time my literal only caster was amiya

[sonic willow]

surtr and texas are the best arts dps in the game

[copper vale]

no click for the first 200ish pulls on the banner and didn't think i was going to go for skalter spark

[vernal lion]

Texas2 has versatility, but her skill is still limited by duration
Surtr is when you want big burst, and can "keep Surtr alive" with s3

[foggy grove]

why do you even want click

you have rockrock

[vernal lion]

also, in SSS, you only focus on a certain class that can interact with each other

vg and supporter are still the best lol

[copper vale]

see: amiya being my only caster at the time that wasn't a 3 star caster or gitano/pudding

[sonic willow]

not having a 6star caster really isnt a big deal

surtr is a better arts dps than goldenglow anyway

so is texas

[vernal lion]

caster is good for some lazy stages tho

[latent anvil]

surtr is kinda just too strong to recommend other stuff over

[copper vale]

welp

i'll have to live with waiting a few months to grab her then

[latent monolith]

Nowdays I usually use ifrit for annihlation afk strats but otherwise I kinda make do with astgenne in general stages

[copper vale]

unless i get spooked by her from yato banner/muelsyse banner/random cert shop

[sonic willow]

even funnier is that reed is like the next big banner

she's also better than GG

[copper vale]

not gonna have any pulls for that

[latent anvil]

It's not like GG is a bad choice, but it's like picking qol op over carry op- one helps, the other wipes stages

[copper vale]

i'm pretty much in saving mode for yato banner

yato and muel

[vernal lion]

Surtr won't never be powercreep

[sonic willow]

GG is a feel good unit

you get good vfx and sfx

[copper vale]

...though tbh i'm not actually sure about muel considering i don't have any good ranged statsticks for her

[sonic willow]

you can clone melee too

[copper vale]

yee, she can clone penance

[elder flume]

Anyone can test if ho oh talent works with sleep?

[vernal lion]

which talent?

[elder flume]

Weightless

Enter range > target lock shift > sleep

I doubt its not the same mechanic as invis but if it is that kind of sucks

[blissful wren]

Ex-8 CM is my last thing… anyone got tips?

[vernal lion]

burst the boss is easier than tank him

[blissful wren]

Who’s good to bust him?

[sonic willow]

uncle

[blissful wren]

The silence guys overwhelm my upper defender, can Murdock work?

[vernal lion]

very less of defender can work lol
even Mud will die to him

1050 + 1050 x [0.2 + (0.15 x 5) + 0.1] = 2152.5 dmg

[sonic willow]

the idea to deal with the hitmen is to stall out the blood debt

[lucid mirage]

The share function did not do what I thought it would.

@copper vale a bit scuffed, but you can use gravel or something to lighten the pressure, and bring another caster or 2 for when GG is down.

[blissful wren]

Holy crap I did it!!

[sharp wadi]

You can use SA s2 with medic to block hitman

[vernal lion]

you're good, now wait for S stage

this boss p1 is really annoying because of Fear debuff

so the easiest solution is burst

[sharp wadi]

P1 with mly and amp boss p1 gone in 2 seconds

P2 most units can't tank boss I guess gravel can tank few hits, monster barely 3 hits,mlynar with two or more healers can tank some hits

[lucid mirage]

There's a debuff?

[vernal lion]

or you can stall like this

[sharp wadi]

-aspd and lock retreat

[lucid mirage]

Hoshi s2 basically no-sells p2.

Nian with module's very existence too come to think of it.

[vernal lion]

Fear debuff is prevent your op from retreating, also keep draining your op HP to 0

significantly decrease aspd too

[lucid mirage]

Is there a time limit to it?

[sharp wadi]

Well I gonna try some luck to find nian in ching banner

[vernal lion]

no

I've already said about this in this channel

[foggy grove]

you need to dmg puppies

like 20%?

[lucid mirage]

Lumen s2/s3 should still work right?

[vernal lion]

you need to deal 20% max hp of the boss to cure it

[sharp wadi]

No his bar isn't drained a bit

[lucid mirage]

Whelp. If donut is still around, I wish him luck for this boss.

[vernal lion]

this boss is totally dps check

like Blood Knight

[lucid mirage]

I'm pretty sure BloK was a Kal/Ntrk check ngl.

[sharp wadi]

Or just don't have hitman more than one, everyone dies

[latent monolith]

Blood knight was stallable tbh

[analog kiln]

yeah u just sandwitched him between 2 defenders

[elder flume]

Stalling bk for an hour is fun

Drops ur frames a tad bit

[vernal lion]

yea blook knight is stallable,
but this boss is stallable too, with these three

[latent monolith]

Boss phase 2 doesn't have fear so just kill phase 1

[tidal sedge]

Well just wait until u play NL ex 8

[lucid mirage]

Donut can only use one of those 3 though...

[vernal lion]

I burst BK with my Exu

let me check the video

[lucid mirage]

He was the for the first round of it. Ex 8 cm, nl s 4 cm etc.

[tidal sedge]

While u do that I have to use Podenco and Shaw only to keeep them away from BK XD( F2P player)

[vernal lion]

#strategy message

[latent monolith]

I used lee to do it

[vernal lion]

CM is worked with Exu strat too

[lucid mirage]

Just borrow ntrk s3 and it's an ez clap.

[tidal sedge]

Well I didn’t even use Exu on that one I used Kal tist (Borrowed)

[vernal lion]

the power of "I have played for 3 years" account

[latent monolith]

I've played for like 8 months and I already have a decent chunk of meta and niche ops

Not as much as people playing for years but whatever

[tidal sedge]

I only played from October last year

😅

[latent monolith]

I started like august

[foggy grove]

My acc is still relatively new
But it's at the point i don't need to borrow anything even for h stage

[copper vale]

you are a legend, my dude

i just dropped amiya s3 below skalter facing right later on

and used gravel to tank for horn

GG never went down that way

[lucid mirage]

No, this is a legend. https://m.youtube.com/@blakeace4303

And he's been gone 8 months apparently.

[copper vale]

i was confused to why you used horn s1 for a moment and then I realized she'll just hit the hitman every time

[sonic willow]

aww

donut

[copper vale]

because there's always other enemies

[latent monolith]

Horn S1

[lucid mirage]

Oh that's mostly just because I'm lazy. I never use s3 or s2 unless I have to.

[copper vale]

idk if you had your silverash m3, mine was m2

didn't make a diff

[lucid mirage]

M2 defektive. Upgrade soon pl0x.

[copper vale]

i'm constantly short on skill3 books and eating into my skill2s

to make skill3s

[sonic willow]

if you have that shamare sauce, horn can burst

[latent monolith]

My horn is M8 atm I'll upgrade to M9 when I have the mats

[copper vale]

sadly no shamare

[lucid mirage]

Use white to make green to make blue

[latent monolith]

That's normal

Craft up as you need

[copper vale]

oh okay

[latent monolith]

Applies to all the materials

[copper vale]

good thing because the game gives you so many skill1s

and idt you need that many

[latent monolith]

You don't

[lucid mirage]

Unless you're an e0 only player.

[latent monolith]

T1 books are only used for level 1-3

[lucid mirage]

Then you need them.

[latent monolith]

Precisely 2 skill upgrades much value

[lucid mirage]

Yes they exist. No they are not all bald. I assume anyway. I could be wrong considering all the malding they do.

[copper vale]

i'll go m3 SA S3 as soon as horn gets out of the training room from m3ing her s3

:>

[latent monolith]

Good now M9 horn

[vernal lion]

he's gone for Limbus sheew

[copper vale]

bruh, i need to e2 nightingale and ifrit, then at least m1 ifrit s2>craft texalter's module>m3 skalter's s2

my poor resources are getting eaten alive

[lucid mirage]

Limbus?

[latent monolith]

Skalter S2 masteries are a lower priority than dps masteries if you have them left

[copper vale]

and then maybe m3 s3 on GG

but idk how high prio that is

texas alr has m3 on s3, penance s3 is m2

[lucid mirage]

Damn low. Skalter gives so much dmg to gg it's not even funny.

[copper vale]

and yeah, that inspiration buff is like

[latent monolith]

GG S3 masteries are poor returns iirc

[copper vale]

209 attack

[lucid mirage]

s3m1 gives better uptime and that's about it.

[copper vale]

which on GG is more than her s3 itself gives lmao

[vernal lion]

Skalter s2 giving direct stat to drone caster is just pretty good tho

because drone caster atk is very low

[copper vale]

yeah

[latent monolith]

Well GG S3 does mean that she gets three drones

[lucid mirage]

GG s3 and S2 give another drone entirely in addition to the atk buff.

[latent monolith]

And also her talent drone explosion

[vernal lion]

to be clear, GG is much more about RNG explosion

at least it got pity

[latent monolith]

Yeah the explosion talent is a lot of her damage

[copper vale]

yee, because skalter's attack buff gives like +630 damage per explosion as is

on 0 res enemies

[vernal lion]

it deals 300% of her atk

and it's aoe too

[copper vale]

how does the explosion chance calc when she has multiple drones going anyways, does it track individual 1.5% per drone, or does it add them all together

for 4.5% everyt ime all 3 drones hit something>another 4.5% each time

because it definitely feels like they proc more often than they would if each drone had its own individual check

[latent monolith]

It is individual iirc

But like there's a lot that proc early

[copper vale]

yeah, it feels like after three or so hits they start booming pretty consistently

[vernal lion]

capped at 60% yikes, imagine she didn't proc at all

[lucid mirage]

It happens.

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

teach me

[copper vale]

anyways, time for

[vernal lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952811082035114044/970926844360675379/justusesurtr.gif

[steep tartan]

warf, gg, skalter and aak
That's a lotta damage

[copper vale]

is like 2am here :>

thanks a ton for the cm help mofu

[lucid mirage]

Taxes s1 time to shine! Oh wait s3 stun works too. R.I.P.

[vernal lion]

s1 is silence, more about specific enemies

[lucid mirage]

Yeah, I've used it as copium lappy on is3.

Kept failing the timing and proccing the geezer gangrene though.

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion https://twitter.com/hyakuniti_soul/status/1664671558269272075

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[latent monolith]

Max risk?

[lucid mirage]

That's pinch out?

[scarlet ledge]

max risk is 935 @latent monolith

[storm current]

Wow that look really fun

Cant wait to try pinchout when it come to EN

[vernal lion]

SA s2 hmm

[latent monolith]

Stall moment

[vernal lion]

bet he stalls that on leftside, with Penance

[scarlet ledge]

blemi got removed

[vernal lion]

because there's no way you can stall rightside, mf drone fixer is dangerous

[lucid mirage]

[vernal lion]

btw, I think HG should make a CC-liked game mode that works like,

ban specific op by schedule,
like this cc stage will ban these op and next time it will change to other op

I'm just waiting for Co.op mode to return

it's been fun

[shadow elm]

does pinchout have any way of unlocking old cc shop things

[opal kiln]

no

[shadow elm]

[drifting iron]

me need lcd

[vernal lion]

*lmd

[drifting iron]

yeah
that

me need more

wasted all of it on lvl 55 kroos

but don't know where to get lot

[analog kiln]

did u already buy the 700k lmd or w/e from event shop?

[drifting iron]

can do event already?

[analog kiln]

even if ur new u can just farm the early stages and get currency there

u probably cant full clear it but ur not expected to full clear ur first event anyways

[drifting iron]

me don't know where event is

[analog kiln]

the il siracusano thingy

should be very obvious