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storm current
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first is 2hp and still 2hp for sequential use

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but on 2nd and later use

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it doesnt guarantee payout

hushed jungle
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i know it wont end there

tidal sedge
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You can opt to not gamble further

hushed jungle
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truly

vernal lion
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8 HP and you got a relic, iirc

frigid kite
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There is another similar, the inquisition one, at the end (after 6 hp i think) it gives 1 item

tidal sedge
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I get that event too early to be able to pay that much life

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Unless I'm leader squad, but then I want that life for getting shields

vernal lion
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I remember I got like ingot first, max hp 2nd, 1 key 3rd, and relic 4th

storm current
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wrong one

sharp wadi
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@glass monolith It's timing when mud losing hp more than she get from skill, also It's bread and butter when shield has cooldown shield broke and get nuked or didn't get hit enough
Mine is e2 50 m1 so It can be happened

storm current
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that one guarantee pay out

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this one is 50% pay out

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different encounter

neat skiff
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How y'all playing during maint?

heady hedge
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2hp*4 is the one with flowers and shop background

glass monolith
sharp mango
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or u can dream me

neat skiff
sharp mango
storm current
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Still arknights

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just different server

vernal lion
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ah it's 10 light first, and recruit voucher last

tidal sedge
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What's the maintenance for anyway

vernal lion
tidal sedge
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It's unusual to get maintenance mid-event

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Ah

vernal lion
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my friend got account issue

sharp wadi
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Free compensation

storm current
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i assume its to fix server issue with the sudden large amount of account creation

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mainly cuz of rerollers

frigid kite
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Lol

vernal lion
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dude lost sanity ingame : sad :

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anyway,
1st -2 HP for 10 light
2nd -2 HP for 1 max life
3rd -2 HP for 1 key
4th -2 HP for 1 recruitment (non-free) from 2 random classes

hushed jungle
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oh, no collectible in there dining table

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skip 🏃‍♂️

vernal lion
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yea, they are not worthy all

frigid kite
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Rewards are pretty shitty

elder flume
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is the auto skill use rejection every 3 frames or does it just go on every frame

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spam triggering cutter s1 when enemy is behind

storm current
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it spam ye

elder flume
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it waits for animation to end or just first frame reuse?

gleaming lodge
misty egret
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Someone explain me what these operators do:

  • Mulberry
  • Honeyberry
  • Lumen

What kind of status they cancel ? All kinds or just some ?

vital arrow
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The berries are used from chapter 9 onwards

vernal lion
vital arrow
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The berries' gimmick is that heal elemental damage buildup

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Lumen is therapist, he reduces the duration of status effects by half when he heals allies

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He's also like one the best pure healing medics because of his range and big numbers on S3

scarlet ledge
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frek so pro

misty egret
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So i was reading wiki and it says that Lumen provides Status resistance
Whereas mulberry and honeyberry reduces and recovers element damage by 50%

vital arrow
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50% of their atk

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Every operator has 1000 elemental HP

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Honeyberry can only heal elemental damage

misty egret
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Ok so here how it goes:

Lumen - Stun , cold , freeze
Mulberry and Honeyberry - Neural , Corrosion and Burn

vital arrow
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There are 2 kinds of burn actually

scarlet ledge
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talulah

vital arrow
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Theres elemental damage burn, and actual burn

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From talulah yeah, and pompeii

misty egret
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So mulberry and honeyberry can save my operators from talulah ?

vital arrow
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No

scarlet ledge
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ngl i never noticed pompeii

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its judt boss got deleted

vital arrow
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Talulah is normal burn

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Max risk daily pompeii be like

misty egret
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Yeah but its a burn so its supposed to remove that status right ?

vital arrow
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Lumen yes

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Berries, no

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Berries only work for the small circle bar

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Nothing else

shell arch
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Don't forget about the NUTS chestnut

vital arrow
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Nuts are ass

misty egret
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But wiki says Lumen gives status resistance and supresses status to 50% , Stun cold and freeze right ?

How he is helping supress burn status ?

vital arrow
shell arch
vital arrow
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He can cleanse talulah and pompeii's burn

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It's not stated but it works

misty egret
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That makes berries quite useless to use then

vital arrow
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Wait it actually states it on talulah's enemy info

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The burn can be reduced by status resistance

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The berries are pretty much comfort picks usually

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Unless the stage demands them

scarlet ledge
misty egret
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If Lumen is doing all the work then why berries exist ? And that also 5* berries

shell arch
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:ceobecu-

vernal lion
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you will love it

vital arrow
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Corrossion, nervous impairment

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And burn

scarlet ledge
vital arrow
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They deal like a big pop of damage if they burst

scarlet ledge
vital arrow
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Also corrossion permanently reduces your defense each pop

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So

misty egret
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I think i am getting it

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Anyway , thanks for explaining

vital arrow
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They exist solely to counter elemental damage

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That'a it

civic bear
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berries prevent elemental damage from proccing
lumen is working on entirely diff thing.
the only place they overlap is on dealing with nervous impairment.
while berries prevents it ,lumen just works around it by removing the stun affected

gleaming lodge
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You still take the 1k true damage with Lumen though

tidal sedge
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ANYONE WANT TO HANDHELD ME THROUGH EX STAGES?

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I'm stuck on EX-3

misty egret
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Just texas alter it

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Ezz

tidal sedge
hard scaffold
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im still not sure why cantible and ines is so good, what are they used for and isnt flagpipe strat just better?

vital arrow
tranquil saddle
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How yall deal with the second form of ex 8 stage boss ? Cant just "texas alter it"

vital arrow
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Canta and ines handles DP gen by killing early enemies and generating DP at the same time

tidal sedge
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Why is this EX stages harder than SN I'm going to cry

misty egret
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How many 6* can be pulled in 1x10 pull ?

3 is the max and luckiest right ?

vital arrow
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Someone pulled like 5

misty egret
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WTH

scarlet ledge
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6

tidal sedge
scarlet ledge
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i saw

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5 surtr and 1 offrate

misty egret
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offrate

vital arrow
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I only saw the 3 mumu 1 spalter 1 hool one

gleaming lodge
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If there is a hard coded limit on the max amount of 6* you can get in a 10x, I haven't seen it
However you cannot get a white bag, there has to be at least one 4* or higher

vernal lion
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the role of Agent and Flagbearer are different
Flagbearer is just about fast setting up a squad,
while Agent is good to counter some early-rush enemy and also get some dp, they give you chance to think about what placement you should deploy your op before you can reuse them again, because Agent is also frd

sharp wadi
vital arrow
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From my experience mud only really has difficulty in chapter 11

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Chapter 9 and 10 she just stomps on the mobs

neat skiff
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Translation to English: Mud self heal isn't enough sometimes.

gleaming lodge
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Use S3 ?

vital arrow
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Also yeah use the good skill

sharp wadi
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S2 but m1

gleaming lodge
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Also yeah, this is hard to understand mate

vital arrow
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Instead of the braindead skill

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Mine is also s2m1

neat skiff
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Or use a defender that can be healed.

gleaming lodge
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Literally using S3 instead of S2 will solve the majority of your problems

vital arrow
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Wait no mine is s2m3 now

vernal lion
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I don't even use defender in chap 10 smilewwwwwwwwwww

gleaming lodge
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Unless you want mud to deal with everything in this lane, in which case S3 off-skill dps is often not enough

vernal lion
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not even Horn

gleaming lodge
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🆗 ❓

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Do you want a medal ?

neat skiff
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Also, regen healing helps.

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"Healing without green numbers"
Angelina/Perfumer global talent.
Bard supporter (Skalter/Sora/Heidi/U-Official/Civilight) range talent.
Silence alter talent
Shu harvest talent
Blemishine S2
Suzuran S3
Tsukinogi S2
For operators and not summons Saileach S2 and Heavyrain S1

sharp wadi
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Regen bad compare mountain and SA s2 , well I hope for skalter

storm current
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wait heavyrain is regen?

neat skiff
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Yup.

storm current
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i thought its 50 flat heal

neat skiff
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It's horifically low, but it is regen.

vernal lion
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yea its regen

neat skiff
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"Healing without green numbers"

storm current
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actually no, its 70 x 4 sec

glass monolith
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I think Heavyrain S1 can be applied to unhealable operators RedOmegaLul

storm current
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doesnt seem that bad

sharp wadi
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I used it before not enough for mud and need to deploy

neat skiff
vital arrow
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Does your mud has skill issue or something

glass monolith
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I was like "The fuck is going on" when Heavyrain Camoed my La Pluma

storm current
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does this apply when she attack only

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like blem or like saria?

vital arrow
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Its saria

sharp wadi
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4sec meh

storm current
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its 4s duration on a 4s cooldown skill lol

sharp wadi
glass monolith
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or soemthing idk

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I build her for S2, in the end i didn't even use her much

gleaming lodge
vernal lion
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joke on you, heavyrain s1m3 can make my Horn under 2 ice towers without getting frozen

sharp wadi
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Next atk need to hit enemies, when perf + ange is stackable passive Regen but both need to deploy and never use an ange skill

neat skiff
storm current
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hmm i thought ice tower ignore camo?

neat skiff
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It's like Saria. A damage attack gets replaced with the heal.

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Can also heal without attacking.

sharp wadi
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Like saria s2?

neat skiff
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Ice tower is "everyone in range" and not "splash from the tower"

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Saria S1.

sharp wadi
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S1 need target when S2 just aoe no target required

storm current
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eh

neat skiff
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The targeting and mechanics are like Saria S1.

vernal lion
storm current
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you know both need target to apply camo you know?

neat skiff
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It's a single target skill.

storm current
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s2 has more application against ranged boss ye

neat skiff
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S2 is the only skill worth using.

sharp wadi
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Heh seem decent s2 for cheese EB

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just for that

civic bear
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eb is easily bullied theres no reason for cheese anymore

neat skiff
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It's only mentioned in the "healing without green numbers" list because it's 280 healing without green numbers.

vernal lion
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also Pozy typewrite

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he wont target to fart on her

tidal sedge
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I LEGIT NEED HELPS IM GONNA CRY

gleaming lodge
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HOW ABOUT YOU ASK POLITELY, EXPLAIN YOUR PROBLEM AND SHOW YOUR CURRENT SQUAD/STRATEGY FIRST ?

vital arrow
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I'M HUNGRY

gleaming lodge
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I'M HUNG BlitzSmile

tidal sedge
vital arrow
tidal sedge
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Leak 2

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Not eyja suzuran

vital arrow
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We don't know who you have

tidal sedge
vital arrow
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Wow you failed with that roster?

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EX3?

storm current
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Uh

tidal sedge
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Yes

storm current
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Cant you just doubling eyja and passenger?

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Pass s3 should 1 cycle cars and big dude

tidal sedge
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The masteries :

SA M3
Spalter M3
Thorns M2
Surtr M1
Passenger M1 on both skills
Eyja M1

storm current
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For your information

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Mon3tr block count isnt reduced

tidal sedge
storm current
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Spalter s2 should be able to kill him

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If not then assist with s3 mudrock

tidal sedge
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Oh I never really thought that s3 mudrock exist for a reason, maybe this is the reason

storm current
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When payback time end, mudrock wont die to him

tidal sedge
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I'll try that one thanks

dark violet
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I kinda wanted to see how dorothy could perform in SSS. Let's see how it goes against higher numbers

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at least she seems fun

gleaming lodge
# tidal sedge

Ok
Challenge for you
Do not watch Kyo's guide (or any other guide) for every normal mode stage left in IS event

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If you can do that, try not to watch guides for CM as well

dark violet
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nice roster

gleaming lodge
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Because your roster can clearly destroy this, you're just too focused on carbon-copying kyo to understand the power of your own operators

dark violet
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I agree

sonic willow
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That is pretty cursed FiaDed

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Bro has eyja too

near folio
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Are there any 5 stars that do burst aoe dps better than Executor?

vital arrow
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We have pinecone

gleaming lodge
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Ayer LappDumb

vital arrow
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Whos actually better than executor

opal kiln
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tequila

vital arrow
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5 star probably

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Lava?

sonic willow
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Does pluma count

neat skiff
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La Pluma.

sonic willow
vital arrow
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Oh ye pluma

proud drift
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Squid is angery wtf

near folio
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Is La Pluma still worth raising for 5 star nicheknights?

storm current
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eh kind of?

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since if you ignore 6*

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pluma is one of the best burst aoe dps

sonic willow
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Pluma kind of a beast for 5star

sharp wadi
near folio
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The current new story chapters has not been nice to enmity units

vital arrow
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For *5 raise astgenne probably

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Or leizi

sharp wadi
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You have kal so ggez no brain

neat skiff
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Leizi comes with the asterisk where she is garbage without her module.

sonic willow
opal kiln
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in 5* only which is what they're asking about she's still good pre-module

sonic willow
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She insta kills those rocket shits

sharp wadi
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For 5* I go skyfire and leonhardt

heady hedge
near folio
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But Penance still dies to the dog

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Assuming the dog is the first enemy to come out

storm current
gleaming lodge
# proud drift Squid is angery wtf

Yeah shit day
I woke up to see that my flatmate is having a video call in the living room (I have to stare at my bedroom's wall while eating breakfast)
And then I had to shave with cold water (because my flatmate hasn't refilled gas), and missed my bus

And now what ? This chat is filled with top tier LappDumb yet again...

neat skiff
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Of course penance dies to the pupper.

storm current
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in term of 5* its about this much i guess

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600 def 40 res

foggy grove
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she literally can kill h11-4 dogs

glass monolith
scarlet ledge
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penans defective

near folio
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No healing means it only takes one bite

scarlet ledge
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get better judge

foggy grove
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the dot charge her s3

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so no

glass monolith
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uh.... It shouldn't?

storm current
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interesting

heady hedge
vital arrow
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It does?

neat skiff
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Of course it does.

gleaming lodge
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Wait the dot charge defensive SP ?!

heady hedge
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brb

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ill test

neat skiff
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Always has.

gleaming lodge
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I guess it's like Patriot dot

gleaming lodge
sharp wadi
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Ye

neat skiff
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Mud spin to win.

foggy grove
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i just know she get her s3 so fast

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she kill 1st dog before 2nd comes

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and do it again

storm current
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ye it does

gleaming lodge
neat skiff
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The problem with Penence vs that enemy. you get rid of the DoT by healing. Something she cannot at all do without regen.

sonic willow
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Penance > mudrock fr

gleaming lodge
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Does it proc Lisk's talent as well ?

storm current
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Still lose a lot of hp tho

dark violet
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second level, she still seems pretty strong

storm current
neat skiff
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So yeah, she has no way to get rid of the DoT.

storm current
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my penance is only 60

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no clue if 90 will prevent this

sharp wadi
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Dot still outregen so gg

storm current
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eh?

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its only 150

gleaming lodge
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Pretty sure the dot doesn't overcome the +6k barrier she gets from S3

opal kiln
foggy grove
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yeah

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who cares about the dot

tidal sedge
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I DONT THINK I CAN CM THIS ONE

sonic willow
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Well, pen just slaps another shield on

gleaming lodge
sharp wadi
gleaming lodge
tired grail
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I'm kinda stuck at IS EX 8, any tips for this stage? It's the only one I'm quite struggling with because of the boss and the famiglia assasin spawning when blood debt is full

tidal sedge
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Can I just borrow blue women

storm current
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why do you ask us

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and not yourself

tidal sedge
storm current
sharp wadi
gleaming lodge
sharp wadi
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Monster is my best defender

tidal sedge
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Wait if mon3tr used for top then who's gonna tank the cars

vital arrow
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Mudrock

sharp wadi
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Who tank just nuke

tired grail
vital arrow
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Also you can just borrow ifrit

tidal sedge
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How to nuke when you don't have flagpipe

vital arrow
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There's a really nice ifrit lanw there

heady hedge
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ok seems like you can solo left lane in h11-4 with penance

tidal sedge
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Well I can use flag but I don't have pipe

vital arrow
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Why does flagpipe matter for nuke

heady hedge
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well, i had skalter support

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i can test it without

neat skiff
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Speaking of tanking the nuke. Shame Vigil came out so late after CH 11. His pupper is fantastic cannon bait.

heady hedge
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it works as long as you bait the gore eaters with a op

sharp wadi
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Borrow someone you have eyja pass or borrow blue watergun or newspaperman

tidal sedge
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Then Kal top is s3 right?

vital arrow
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Kal S3 top

proud drift
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Really is top tier LappDumb wtf

vital arrow
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Arts damage goes bottom

proud drift
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I see why squid anger

tidal sedge
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And bottom I can just throw surtr / texalter / eyja

vital arrow
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Job done

tidal sedge
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THIS IS BRILLIANT

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Why i never think of it like that

vital arrow
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This is called

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Common sense

sharp wadi
vital arrow
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It's a superpower

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So yeah it's pretty rare

storm current
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usually you cant really help with this

neat skiff
storm current
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its better for them to think for themself ye

sharp wadi
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Be monke

tidal sedge
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For texalter nuke s2 or s3

neat skiff
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S2 single target.
S3 AoE.

tidal sedge
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@neat skiff oh hey you're the guide guy who make me guide for SN-EX-2 CM

neat skiff
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Probably. Took a break from hardcore arknights.

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For the most part Texalter goes S3 since it just does so much.

storm current
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aoe matter for her kill reset ye

sharp wadi
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@tidal sedge

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Is that all?

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Just one passenger nuke everything without suzu you can
What strat?

elder flume
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oh kaze death proc reactivates normal speed when viewing

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reminds me to check if lee s2 reactivates normal speed

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maybe its not death proc moment PtiloThonk

near folio
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And also the time you need to wait for the third head to come out

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And also not having your other blockers taking too much reborns

hardy fog
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what does "Wander Into Wonderland" do

lethal dragon
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Takes you to is1

hardy fog
torn sandal
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mudrock s2 or s3

sharp wadi
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Both

torn sandal
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for lane holding

lethal dragon
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S2 for casual

sharp wadi
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S2

torn sandal
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ok

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thanks

near folio
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Low stars are getting out of hand

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You can make any blocker virtually unkillable with Shamare and Roberta

sharp wadi
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Still good for IS

dark violet
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level 3, dorothy is still viable, mmh

sharp wadi
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Yes

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Lvl more

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After lvl make sure you hit s3 right your monster will save, if monster die you can stall until new monster out not too long even cm that has 100% redeployment time you can cycle it

dark violet
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it's kinda hilarious to see the lancers run in circle and walk on a landmine every cycle

naive crater
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How do I fight enemies that doesn't get blocked? What should I use to kill em?

dark violet
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stalling

noble pewter
dark violet
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ethan is the best cheap option for that

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way too good at that for his *

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what enemy though

sharp wadi
naive crater
dark violet
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her s3 is one of the only that bypasses most anti CC

sharp wadi
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Very easy I'm lazy to mention it

dark violet
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makes sense

sharp wadi
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S3 gain more def so make them safe

dark violet
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time to test level 4 and see if doro doesn't fall out already

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I was getting pretty bored of using support GG

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she kinda boring

sharp wadi
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Buy them

dark violet
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buy who?

near folio
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Puzzle looks like a really interesting agent

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But what happens after he hits someone already at full stacks of arts dmg

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On S2

dark violet
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to be continued

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holy vigil, this is the ultimate counter to this enemy

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it's just enough delay to never deal with the dmg reduction

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alright, I reached max so I'll stop at level 4, but I'd say the dorothy experiment was succesful. She's pretty nice for SSS. You get to bully enemies constantly

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guess I stopped using chalter even for SSS

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and IS too, oh no

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I just don't have a reason to use her anymore, rip

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dorothy makes afk players cry though

gleaming lodge
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Nice blog you got there mate Bnuuy

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If you want to have fun in SSS try classknights BlitzSmile

dark violet
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I don't think I have enough ops for that

tidal sedge
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NO HELP MON3TR DIED

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I've tried clearing the first hordes in bottom lane with surtr

gleaming lodge
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Stop spamming all caps please

tidal sedge
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But mon3tr just died

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The bottom lane doesn't have any issue

gleaming lodge
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Do you use Kal's skills ?

tidal sedge
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Yes s3

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But I put it mon3tr on the most front tile

vital arrow
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Just add spalter in front of monster

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Job done

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Literally just add blockers

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The baldy is invisible and sits for like a few seconds on spawn

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Dropping monster there is just letting him get cheap shots

tidal sedge
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Should I just replace Texalter with suzuran

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God not having my own taxes makes me cry

vital arrow
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You don't need either

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Just add 1 more blocker

drifting iron
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stuck on 1-12
help pls

dark violet
tidal sedge
vital arrow
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Why does that matter

tidal sedge
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So the dp gen for the beginning kinda sucks and texalter used to clean up the mobs

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Since eyja and passenger/ifrit takes alot of dp

vital arrow
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You don't need that much dps really

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Just add more vanguards

dark violet
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is it still for ex3?

vital arrow
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Yeah

neat skiff
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Have your top lane near the blue box...

dark violet
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I don't even remember what I did there

vital arrow
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My vgs for EX3 cm was literally flametail

dark violet
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same

neat skiff
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While they're angry the croc daddy gains a lot of bonus damage. Once the angry phase ends he barely tickles.

dark violet
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well, to correct what I said: my vanguards for the whole event was flametail

tidal sedge
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How long is the angry phase

vital arrow
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Why are people so focused on flagpipe

neat skiff
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Because flagpipe is meta.

dark violet
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because they're blind

neat skiff
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They have zero idea why flagpipe is meta, only that they are.

dark violet
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can't see the diamond at their foot when gold is shining in front

cursive mango
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IS-EX-4 was really that simple?

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mylnar support literally hard carries

vital arrow
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It is

dark violet
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all levels are that simple with broken carries

static ember
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does anyone have a list of recommendations operator for Is 3?

vital arrow
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Who do you have

dark violet
vital arrow
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Top picks are ling/gavialt for starter
Horn/pozy/texalt for carries

neat skiff
vital arrow
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Krooster/mayer for stun tech

dark violet
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I've been using a whole lot of flametail and ntr, but I'm a kaz fanatic so

static ember
dark violet
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got them both s2 and s3 to mastery for flexibility

vital arrow
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I forgot mlynar for carries too

dark violet
vital arrow
dark violet
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she's not niche for a particular setup, she's just strong there

vital arrow
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But any ranged phys carry is fine

drifting iron
#

stuck at 1-12
help

vital arrow
#

What's 1-12

tidal sedge
#

My sanity is just too gone rn im gonna continue tomorrow

static ember
drifting iron
#

W boss and stair

dark violet
shrewd hare
ancient tangle
#

when SSS new map replace old map

drifting iron
#

essentially
everything

ancient tangle
#

i need the 2 secret medal

dark violet
#

I don't think SSS replaces maps

#

or maybe it'll begin to do that

ancient tangle
#

anyone on cn?

dark violet
#

whatever happens, they'll rotate at worst

#

so doesn't matter much

ancient tangle
#

damm

#

i need certainly information

#

do not want to miss em medal

dark violet
#

you won't even if they rotate though

#

the medal doesn't just disappear

#

just lke annis

#

if you're anxious though, better get them now

crystal hound
#

How can I improve my squad with the operators that I have? I'm kinda new to arknights

dark violet
#

kroos alter

ancient tangle
#

gonna speedrun em genshin event and that medal yo

vital arrow
#

Krooster is basically just a stunner

dark violet
#

yeah

shrewd hare
# drifting iron essentially everything

get 2 vanguards so you can print more dp, fang and one more like vanilla would be good. enemies in 1-12 have mid defense, so i think a vanguard/defender coupled with good heals will outlast them. with W, you wanna focus her with exu +amiya, drop matterhorn or nearl last so she targets them instead of the healer or dps. all the best

ancient tangle
#

kroos alter?

vital arrow
#

Yeah

#

On higher difficulty she's just a peashooter

#

So her only saving grace is her stun

dark violet
#

yeah, I just meant that it's all the ranged physical I needed

vital arrow
#

Even on D0 she deals like almost no damage on floor 3 onwards

#

The rest is depending on your carries

dark violet
#

get rid of plume if she's 1e0

#

chargers need stats to be worth using

#

get a passive dp vanguard

drifting iron
drifting iron
near folio
drifting iron
#

brain not braining

ancient tangle
#

elite 0 lvl 1 i think

drifting iron
#

how to look at elite?

dark violet
dark violet
#

chargers only get dp by killing enemies

drifting iron
vital arrow
dark violet
#

look at their skills

#

it's either automatic, or you use the skill

#

but the point is that they provide dp without having to fight

hardy fog
#

what does these options do

near folio
vital arrow
dark violet
#

ash isn't worth taking to begin with

hardy fog
vital arrow
near folio
#

I see

vital arrow
#

Like ash is fine

#

But you can do better

drifting iron
#

uhm
block 2
block 2
gain dp on kill
gain dp on kill
block 2
block 2
that all my vanguard

dark violet
vital arrow
near folio
#

@drifting iron for now focus on courier and vigna

drifting iron
dark violet
vital arrow
dark violet
#

pioneers are simpler to use at the start

drifting iron
vital arrow
#

Yeah she's enough

ancient tangle
#

fang is great at early game

near folio
#

Also if you use chargers make sure to retreat them before they die since they refund their full cost

dark violet
#

I'd say chargers aren't a great vanguard for starters

vital arrow
#

Also replace meteor with kroos

#

Meteor is cringe

dark violet
#

I had fun with her for a while

#

but yeah, kroos is too strong

near folio
dark violet
#

until you get the welfare texas at least

#

that was my journey

drifting iron
vital arrow
#

Kroos

dark violet
#

fang, courier, texas, and finally flametail

vital arrow
#

The free sniper you get

#

They literally give her for free

dark violet
neat skiff
#

The 3 star Kroos.

near folio
dark violet
drifting iron
#

so team is
nearl,exusial,shining,fang

neat skiff
#

4 star and up tend to need E2 to start doing more DPS than Kroos.

vital arrow
#

Kroos melantha beagle steward ansel vanilla/plume

vital arrow
#

Use exu

#

She has better burst on E1

dark violet
#

6* are worth through raw stats at the start

drifting iron
neat skiff
#

For the pioneer vanguards.
Offensive = Vanilla/Scavenger/Texas.
Defensive = Fang/Courier/Zima.

dark violet
#

then use vanilla/fang for now

#

more than enough

neat skiff
#

Have an old copy paste of the 3/4/5 star upgrade trees.

drifting iron
dark violet
neat skiff
#

All the 6 star pioneer are both.

vital arrow
dark violet
#

is saga defensive?

vital arrow
#

Both

dark violet
#

I never really tried the other vanguards

vital arrow
#

The *6 pioneers are just

#

Statsticks

neat skiff
#

Saga has both offence and defense.

drifting iron
dark violet
#

nice

#

all I know about her is natto gohan

neat skiff
#

Unlike the 3/4/5 who tend to go one way or the other.

vital arrow
dark violet
#

lava over gitano?

vital arrow
#

Cheaper

#

Gets the job done

drifting iron
#

soo
nearl,shining,exusial,fang,kroos,melantha,vanilla,beagle,ansel,amiya,lava
and?

neat skiff
#

Like Texas has more damage than Zima but she also dies to dogs if not E2. All 3 6 stars have no issue.

dark violet
#

true, siege is unbreakable

scarlet ledge
near folio
#

Even at E2, Texas is dying to dogs

scarlet ledge
vital arrow
#

Depending on who you need in stage

drifting iron
#

also
recommended lvl?

#

max exu?

dark violet
#

get a fast rpd I guess

vital arrow
#

Take cardigan

#

Lv 20-30 should be enough

drifting iron
dark violet
#

try to have lv 20 for the ops you use, it's the biggest stat upgrades for cost

vital arrow
#

You just need the bulk

#

Any defender works

drifting iron
#

then me take croissant cause 5*

vital arrow
#

They're just there to eat W's bombs

dark violet
drifting iron
#

everyone 20 now
can get exu to 50
should?

vital arrow
#

Eh level everyone evenly

#

Better get everyone to 30

dark violet
#

yea

#

stats matter more for melee ops as well, because you get defense and health, which rarely matter for ranged

#

the biggest ones being your vanguards/defenders

#

tankier vanguards means it can hold for a lot longer until your big bois are up

#

the first 90e2 I'll have is going to be flametail

drifting iron
#

everyone 30 except 1

dark violet
#

should be more than enough

#

try again and crush W

#

a very important thing to know: enemies target your latest deployed operator

drifting iron
#

nvm
just got enough xp to elite 1 1 or 2 unit

dark violet
#

so drop your weak ranged ops first then your defenders

neat skiff
#

Then if/when you get Mountain vanguards become more of a "nice to bring along now and then" instead of mandatory.

drifting iron
dark violet
#

have you tried again once

drifting iron
#

have enought mats to elite 1 the 3*

#

should?

dark violet
#

your vanguard/defenders maybe

#

you'll soon get enough to do all of them

drifting iron
vital arrow
#

If you can e1

#

Do kroos first

#

The range increase is really nice

drifting iron
#

uhm
lvl reset to 1
only have enough to get it back to 18

near folio
#

Just get it back to 18

dark violet
#

it doesn't lower stats

near folio
#

Dont leave units at E1L1

dark violet
#

yea

drifting iron
#

don't know positioning

near folio
#

Since its the exact same stats as e0L50

glass monolith
#

Promotion resets cost per level

drifting iron
scarlet ledge
#

hi minuspro

glass monolith
#

Sup. All hail rock

drifting iron
#

me don't know how to position unit

dark violet
glass monolith
#

Can someone spend those 4 sanity pots for me? RedOmegaLul

glass monolith
near folio
#

Ranged enemies usually target the last deployed operator within range

drifting iron
dark violet
#

defender last

near folio
#

Yep

dark violet
#

vanguard you need first for dp

near folio
#

Vanguard first

glass monolith
#

Vanguards is most likely your first deploys every map for DP

dark violet
#

tthat's why gravel/ fast redeploy is strong, because it's very cheap and can mess up deploy order to protect your ranged ops at any time

drifting iron
#

put in crosssection?

dark violet
#

it's been 2 years

drifting iron
#

will gib ss or stream if needed

glass monolith
#

i did that map with e0 1 levels. Franka stabbing W HellaKek

dark violet
#

alright, you have a nice exu spot here

drifting iron
dark violet
#

drop her here, facing left

#

then you can drop your defenders in the same area to block and draw aggro from W

drifting iron
dark violet
#

yea

gleaming lodge
gleaming lodge
# drifting iron

All you need for your ranged operators is to protect them from ranged enemies (either by being far away or by managing aggro)
And they need to cover the tile in front of your blockers

drifting iron
#

brain already not braining

dark violet
#

should place fang one to the right

#

to stop enemies in exu range

#

but it's not too bad

#

kroos can face down

drifting iron
gleaming lodge
#

Ok

drifting iron
gleaming lodge
#

Apart from W

drifting iron
#

soo
reset?

gleaming lodge
#

There is one choke point in this map

#

Concentrate all firepower there

drifting iron
dark violet
#

you want your biggest defender on the right of the stairs

drifting iron
gleaming lodge
dark violet
#

where everything converges

drifting iron
#

brain stopped braining

gleaming lodge
#

I'm trying to explain how the game works to @drifting iron

drifting iron
glass monolith
gleaming lodge
#

If all enemies come from a single direction, why do you let them split in two paths ?
The easiest for you is to deal with everything at once

gleaming lodge
#

You put whatever the hell you want

#

I'm not going to spoon feed you

#

Like everyone does here

#

If you're having troubles in 1-12 you haven't understood the game

dark violet
drifting iron
#

wait
so exu first or vanguard first?

gleaming lodge
#

So you need to understand the game, not copy one way of beating the stage

dark violet
#

do you need the dp early, or killing the enemies (if there's any that early)

gleaming lodge
#

You don''t have strong vanguards so deploy them first
1-12 doesn't have a lot of early pressure

elder flume
#

their exu is ezero

#

it doesnt have rectangle range

dark violet
#

then one more to the right I guess

#

although considering that, it's better to have exu to the left tile facing right

#

and dropping the defender on the left of canta

#

yeah

hardy fog
#

why is it not separation and unity?

#

recently I've been getting different kind of bosses

#

but they are tougher somehow

silver canyon
#

There's a chance for the boss stage to be an upgraded version

hardy fog
#

ooo

silver canyon
#

The chance is higher with lower light i think

hardy fog
#

so like that saint carmen becoming saint iberia?

glass monolith
#

HE GOT UPGRADED ON 100 LIGHT? ExuHyperStare

silver canyon
hardy fog
dark violet
#

guess there's a slight rng to it huh

hardy fog
#

i rarely met with these ngl

#

and i just encounter 2 times including now and my previous run

cosmic dagger
#

I'm curious if Carmen stuck on grass bug is fixed in en?

elder flume
#

i can try ig

cosmic dagger
#

You would block him in grass and he can't move

#

So his ammo attack is ranged

#

But grass can't be targeted by ranged

#

So he's just bing chilling

elder flume
#

just need luck to get 2 spec recruits

#

unless hes alr shifted down upon spawning

#

tho i assume hes not?

cosmic dagger
#

He loops around

#

So you can just block him as he goes to top grass

#

It was the basis of ling solo

#

But they patched it on cn

#

Can't have nice things

elder flume
#

oh he touches grass?

#

thats convenient

cosmic dagger
#

Quite literally he touches grass yes

elder flume
#

gona spam is3 for a bit

hardy fog
#

ngl is3 when it hits a bad status the ost is giving me creeps

deft badger
#

this mode is a joke dude... literally made to waste ur time actually if u have nothing better to do 😂 enemies gein 25% hp wow

gleaming lodge
#

That's not a lot of E2s for floor5 TaluThonk

gleaming lodge
#

-5 light per fight is interesting though BlitzSmile

deft badger
#

the thing that pisses me of is that its even there, i have 3 ops on my hands i can just ff at this point there isn't even a reason to try the next stage
that thing is a joke, that u are even able to get it that early is a fail

gleaming lodge
#

Operators : 4

#

I know EN can't read but come on mate

#

Also no, that's not an immediate loss

#

Just keep on playing, you will crush it

deft badger
#

i lost already xD

gleaming lodge
#

What do you mean you lost ?

#

Who are you drafting ?

#

What difficulty is that ?

vernal lion
glass monolith
#

It is d0 with barelly any unlocks and he picked "Get relic and cursed relic" event RedOmegaLul

deft badger
#

i just started playing it... did have more fun at phantom

gleaming lodge
#

I repeat my questions though

#

What operators are you usually taking ?

vernal lion
#

I take support squad and RNG pick

#

actually, I should pick purely RNG anything

gleaming lodge
proud drift
#

I wonder if he’s new or not

#

Cause no way someone would complain about is3 like that CeobeConfused

neat skiff
#

Eh, seen several people do it.

gleaming lodge
#

Roguelikes can be very frustrating

neat skiff
#

Especially if you don't like or hate the genre.

gleaming lodge
#

Especially when you die at floor 5 because you miss-remembered a rotation

glass monolith
#

I play IS3 because i hate myself CeobeConfused

#

Same with SSS

gleaming lodge
#

How about you find some originality instead?

neat skiff
#

We get so many module materials from events I haven't done SSS in months. Still waiting for the once a month nerf.

sly drift
#

Is there any point to go pass pot 3 texalt? The damage reduction +5% from talent pot seems meh.

proud drift
#

Deployment cost imo is very important

neat skiff
#

Pot 4 redeploy reduction.

proud drift
#

Deployment cd*

#

Deployment cost pretty nice too

neat skiff
#

Pot 4 is what allows Texalter to solo risk 18 CC 11.

#

Otherwise you need a pot 5 SilverAsh chilling in the corner.

proud drift
glass monolith
#

I will bring entire CC12 comp to CC11 because i don't know what i am doing BPCozy

sly drift
deft badger
#

where do i even change the difficulty

sly drift
#

Damn keyboard

proud drift
#

I’m not a good player by any means, just rarity abuser, and managed to clear first try without knowing or looking up what any boss does CeobeConfused

#

So I feel like it’s either EN can’t read, skill issue or lack of raised units

neat skiff
#

It would be fascinating to see IS stats from the devs.

vital arrow
glass monolith
#

I really should stop doing random bullshit and do modules

neat skiff
#

Like the latest questionnaire "why do you hate IS?"

vital arrow
#

Easy mode is half the exp gain anyways

gleaming lodge
vital arrow
#

So it's kinda cringe

sly drift
vital arrow
#

0ut of control and

#

Uni bona somnia

sly drift
#

Flametail doing good on Out of Control map

#

To guard the vertical lane

vital arrow
#

I find horn really good there

gleaming lodge
sly drift
#

I don't remember which map is that

gleaming lodge
#

I'm scared of doing a d0 defknights run honestly

vital arrow
#

The screamer map

#

Out of control is the berserker map

gleaming lodge
#

I got the boss in d4 the other day, but I did the rest of the run normally

sly drift
vital arrow
#

Yeah

neat skiff
proud drift
#

Roguelike is all about experience I guess

sly drift
#

Idk but I never lose that map HellaKek
I usually lose in either out of control or in floor 6.

gleaming lodge
#

Ok buddy

#

Get off your high horshes

proud drift
#

But at the same time if you know what floor the emergency op happens

#

If you know you can’t do it

#

You just avoid it

gleaming lodge
#

IS#3 d15 isn't as easy as IS#2 hard mode

proud drift
#

Okay but the guy is doing is3 d0 or smth around that

#

Idk why you bring up the absolute hardest possible stage that probably only a minority of playerbase will do

glass monolith
#

Well average roguelike has option to beat up god with stick, yes it will take time and skill.
IS3 is plain you die or may not die

sly drift
#

I think it's getting hard at d8 above or something..

proud drift
#

Or more dedicated IS grinders

gleaming lodge
#

Ah yes
"Randomness ?"
"Just avoid it"

#

Thanks 👍

proud drift
#

randomness? Scouting.

#

You can scout ahead what nodes are

gleaming lodge
#

???
Yes mate
I can read
But sometimes you literally cannot avoid it

neat skiff
#

You can really tell who likes roguelike and who hates it.

proud drift
#

Very rare and unlucky cases lol

gleaming lodge
#

Hum yeah
Emergency out of control or emergency out of control

glass monolith
neat skiff
vital arrow
#

Me when I get breogan relic on floor 3

sly drift
#

Yea.. like this

vital arrow
sly drift
#

Emergency you can't avoid

proud drift
#

But it’s a floor 1 emergency and it’s not so frequent to get such a layout

gleaming lodge
proud drift
#

Only thing I strongly dislike about IS randomness

#

Is vouchers

#

Everything else imo is fine for a roguelike

neat skiff
gleaming lodge
#

Hum yeah I love rolling the dice and getting -50% Ligma on Horn
Such a fun game mode SoraWow

#

Or better
10s freeze on Sexas SoraWow

neat skiff
#

"Will you get passable ops?"
"Will those ops ever get E2?"
"Will there be an enemy buff when I enter a floor?"
"Which stages will spawn and can I pass them?"
"Which bosses will appear and will I have the tools to win?"

signal lichen
#

those are my exact suffering questions

gleaming lodge
#

Nah bosses is something you should prepare for

neat skiff
#

Even that second one isn't a sure thing.

sly drift
#

What mode could be good on the future that possibly replace IS

#

Tbh I'm sick of IS too

#

It's getting boring af once you reach all the ending

gleaming lodge
#

Grinding for d15 is stupid

#

Fight me

glass monolith
#

But why would you do that

gleaming lodge
#

Why would I not do that ?

#

I want to unlock it and win at least one d15 run

sly drift
#

I would probably just go past 8 to get the trimmed medal And then completely abandoned it

glass monolith
#

There is no any ingame reward, not even flex medal, not even score reward

sly drift
#

Or until mizuki skin

proud drift
#

I didn’t experience the shit side of it

#

Only had kroos get a lot of brain damage

glass monolith
#

I had 10 second freeze ON EVERY OF MY 4 MEDICS

#

AT ONCE

proud drift
#

But that does sound extremely obnoxious in the long run

#

Question is, is there no way to cleanse it?

gleaming lodge
#

There is

#

But not very often

#

And you are kind of forced into it (it's a special node you can unlock)

sly drift
#

Safe house and Tulip commission reward sometimes can cure it

glass monolith
#

Safe house and hard comission sometimes offer cleanse. Also sending them away on that one node

gleaming lodge
#

Which often enough will have you go through the bad emergencies IrisBruh

glass monolith
#

Do not know, for me it either happens right before end of floor 2 and 4, OR INTO BOSS FACE

sly drift
gleaming lodge
elder flume
#

rejection allows for operator duping abilities so i would count it as a plus

sly drift
elder flume
#

can stack 13 sexas if lucky

gleaming lodge
glass monolith
#

Techically i can get D15 by abusing Weedy insta kill on boss

elder flume
#

uhh the current working vid is after izumik

glass monolith
#

I did first 8 wins legitimely, i allowed to go nuts

elder flume
#

no idea if its possible rn but that is something i will be trying

glass monolith
#

Ending 1, 3 and 4 can be holed. Ending 2 boss can be pushed all the way back i think

elder flume
#

i think theres alr another duping route doable rn but theres a lot of backlog for me to go through

gleaming lodge
#

Sad

#

Hit me with it if you find something

glass monolith
#

Ending 3 hole is complete insanity

elder flume
#

i can give the rejection duping if u want

sly drift
gleaming lodge
#

I wonder what Horn or Nian duping could achieve

gleaming lodge
elder flume
#

wrong copy

proud drift
#

Lmao rain

sly drift
proud drift
proud drift
sly drift
glass monolith
elder flume
#

tldr get rejected > find rejection encounter > exit is3 > change operator art / module / trust > goes back > pick the wanted dupe char > char gets duped

sly drift
#

Y'all check the openworld like mode in cn?

gleaming lodge
drifting iron
#

help
can't do 2-3

gleaming lodge
#

That sounds fairly easy

sly drift
drifting iron
#

tried for the 4th time
can't beat 2-3

elder flume
#

its just rng to find the cure rejection encounter to do it

gleaming lodge
proud drift
#

And if possible send map and team

gleaming lodge
glass monolith
elder flume
#

yea

sly drift
drifting iron
drifting iron
proud drift
#

Well, rather than % or what mob of stage, what makes you fail

gleaming lodge
#

Oh

proud drift
#

Oh it’s this

gleaming lodge
#

Do not trust the game with boxes placement

sly drift
proud drift
#

Place box on bottom too

drifting iron
proud drift
#

Place boxes there

drifting iron
#

i thought can only put on white highlighted tile

proud drift
#

Focus operators on circled area

#

Nah u can put them anywhere as long as mobs can go to blue box somehow

glass monolith
#

Tutorial in AK exists to teach you 1 absolute truth: We will find way to fuck with you

proud drift
#

The highlighted tile is just “recommendation”

sly drift
# drifting iron

Listen.. I read *1 review on playstore last night that this one random guy got furious about how impossible this stage is. And curse the game because of it RedOmegaLul RedOmegaLul

glass monolith
sly drift
#

*1 review is so amusing to read. You should do it if you have free time

#

Almost all of them are nonsensical reason.

glass monolith
#

Sadly in my country 1*s is people complaining about lack of translating, so i need to find other source of fun

sly drift
storm current
#

prob local dont speak english

#

which is uh

#

skill issue

vernal lion
#

I swear that the map with a bunch of drone and hovering elite mob are just kms

elder flume
#

for future reference
the first node with sn dogs is 31 dp with natural generation before leaking LappDumb

glass monolith
vernal lion
elder flume
#

i can never remember stage names so

#

even in is2 mapark i go through every map to view the map i want SkadiDaijoubu

glass monolith
gleaming lodge
glass monolith
#

Google play display your region, and Russian region is 1 star comments of "why no russian language" left by kids who failed to say "London is capital of Great Britain" at class

sly drift
# drifting iron

Btw this stage still can be done with 2 roadblock used isn't it?