strategy

[cosmic dagger]

Anyway, tears spawn near your operators

So you can manipulate tear spawn to make sure ops standing on them don't die from cringe instantly

[lethal dragon]

Water and fire gonna be so annoying on d15

[cosmic dagger]

It really is

[lethal dragon]

Time to M3 nightingale

[cosmic dagger]

Deep cognition who

[lethal dragon]

I hate Pompeii so much

[analog kiln]

Wtf ng not m3 mod3 90

Also needs p5

[cosmic dagger]

Spot the person who didn't mald ng dodges because no res pot

[lethal dragon]

Sorry I am a whale

[cosmic dagger]

cc6 type beat

[lethal dragon]

I got reminded of cc6 in troglodyte tribe stage when that caster stopped moving because of his ATK speed

[silver sigil]

yeah, i did watch his video for is-8 and i barely survived through pheww

i managed to get past is-8, yay

[glass monolith]

All while damage to pillars risk made them all break before last trololodyte even bother to spawn

[lethal dragon]

Ak gaming

[keen night]

Bruh…

[vital arrow]

Pro tip

Use your own ops on the middle tile

[sonic willow]

don't let the enemies step on the funni tile

[neat skiff]

Exact same responses last time they posted that screenshot.

[near folio]

What are the popular vanguard picks for IS3?

[crystal meteor]

fang

[lunar rain]

People barely uses any vg on is3

There is some initial dp collectible, rarely extra dp regeneration is neccesary

[analog kiln]

fang and canta basically

[lunar rain]

Yeah those 2 at max

But 1 hope fang makes me want to choose the reserve ops more

[craggy turret]

This Anni? I'm just not sure bout the way to deal with those Def down archers. Here are all my built/semi built ops. I would prefer if I could do this without support

[gleaming lodge]

Elemental healing + Hoshi S2

You need a setup against Bloodknight (comes in from top left at 375 iirc)

And you're good to go, your ops are very strong

[craggy turret]

I just have max E1 honeyberry for elemental healing

[lunar rain]

Put hoshi last with a elemental healing and you're good

[gleaming lodge]

Should be enough

[craggy turret]

What about the rest of the team? Bagpipe, Myrtle and Elysium are obvious

[latent anvil]

you only need 1 vg...

[lunar rain]

Dont need bag, bag bad in anni

[latent anvil]

bag makes the first dp gen quick, and thats it...

[sonic willow]

thorns unironically good borrow in this anni

[lunar rain]

Use mlynar taxes surtr and win for the rest of the team

[craggy turret]

I set up mountain far left, but that leaves him with a dark box behind him

[lunar rain]

Face behind

Or face bot

[gleaming lodge]

They can 6op this, don't suggest a borrow please

Well, arguably you don't need to farm this, so I guess you could borrow

[craggy turret]

Same problem, I use ops to build up to that block, then immediately retreat them

[sonic willow]

6op afk?

[gleaming lodge]

Use gravel for the light

[gleaming lodge]

afk ?
I'm going to turn your brain afk if you keep making such suggestions

[craggy turret]

My gravel is uhhh E0 lvl 1

[gleaming lodge]

And ?

You are using her to open

[glass monolith]

(Nuke for mobile internet users)

[gleaming lodge]

She is going to be your lighthouse, with fast rdp

[craggy turret]

Im going to use her to build up to the far left then retreat her yea?

[gleaming lodge]

No but seriously
Their squad is strong enough
Just use the good ops, proc skills on big waves and you're good

Ideally you want spawncamp

[glass monolith]

He need your gravel to just point in 3x3 direction of light, if you want to use gravel how everyone you her - To die - get promotion 1, unlock skill 2, you done

[outer sail]

Huh, as I screw around with different stuff in the EX stages, I learned that a fully abyssal hunter boosted Skadi is a better tank than Blemishine rofl. I wonder if Skadi could tank the Chapter 11 Steamknight punch. Probably under Skill 3, but I wonder if otherwise? Maybe not, she only has 4.6k hp...

9.8k with skill up, so that's cool.

[gleaming lodge]

How much is steamknight punch again ?

[craggy turret]

Ok thank you all!!

[gleaming lodge]

Skadi S3 definitely tanks it iirc

[craggy turret]

alot robo sword doesn't joke around

[glass monolith]

H stage? 2700 x 3

[eager gate]

Under s3 or with all the hp buffs from other ah

[outer sail]

All I know is that apparently Nian can tank it, but Hoshi can't without RNG?

[gleaming lodge]

You can go map.ark if you want to look at the wave and think of potential setups

[eager gate]

You really need that Specter x and Skadi y both for her to facetank steam

[craggy turret]

On mobile

[eager gate]

And 2 medics

[gleaming lodge]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map

[outer sail]

Man, I really can't wait for a Spalter rerun. Especially now that you can actually apparently deploy alters with normals? When did that happen?

[eager gate]

This patch

[gleaming lodge]

Click the "desktop version" button (actually I don't know how well it works)

[glass monolith]

I'm pretty sure because average human don't bring both at same time to give Hoshi HP buff to live

[elder flume]

Doesnt e2 roberta just trivialize pierce

[foggy grove]

At that point just use nian

[elder flume]

Bombardment can be cancelled by perfect retreating matoi skadi

No idea if quartz hp is high

Im guessing she is

[glass monolith]

2700 x 3 is 8100

Doesn't help boss than i am that one idiot who will stack damage reduction

[outer sail]

Would Nian's buff be enough though? Nian has like 400 more hp than Hoshi at a baseline even without factoring in talent. So depending on how much he overkills Hoshi, Nian buff MIGHT not be enough ;P Not that you'd want to take both, but, you know.

9.8k hp on Skadi (only M2, not M3), what a monster.

[gleaming lodge]

Nian S2M3 mod3 tanks it easily though

[outer sail]

Well, with S2 up I don't even think you need anything else rofl. I've heard she doesn't even need skill up if you have enough other stuff going on?

[sonic willow]

nian alone tanks offskill

[outer sail]

But how much investment does she need? Mod2? Mod3? No mod? Max level?

[glass monolith]

For module X i used e2 90 stats

So yea. Nian don't cut

And i hope i did meth right. Hoshi talent 2, module X and S2M3 +Def% should sum up from base stats, right?

[sly drift]

This is hoshi?

[glass monolith]

oh i didn't include HP buff from module, oh well

125 on stage 1 so still ded

[outer sail]

If that's Nian, she needs module 2 max invest to survive?

[glass monolith]

IT IS HOSHI GOD DAMN

[outer sail]

Oh, I heard Hoshi couldn't tank it. I was lied to?

[glass monolith]

Well IF i am not wrong with module X and maxed she can. When was her module X again?

[outer sail]

Or is that with Nian talent

[glass monolith]

There is no nian

[outer sail]

Hoshi has both her modules now

[glass monolith]

Well maybe nobody tried to module stage 2 her for H? or maybe my math had flaw after all, either way there is some shit i need to be doing

[outer sail]

I just hate how Nian's module stuff doesn't affect her sheet def. Makes me question if it's even working

[cosmic dagger]

I recall people saying shining skalter hoshi can tank it

[outer sail]

Well, when you stack THAT much extra def I would hope so haha

[cosmic dagger]

Shining off skill I think

But either way

[outer sail]

I think the main reason Nian can do it without extra help vs Hoshi at a baseline is the extra 1k hp.

So Hoshi only has to make up a little bit to not get one-shot.

Like, their ehp is pretty close at a baseline, Nian just edges out with hp despite slightly less defense. So if Hoshi can make up that hp or def with help, it's a wash.

[glass monolith]

Def works within reason. Outside reason - Max HP, damage reductions, gravel juggling

[vernal lion]

there's Mousse s1

[lethal dragon]

Hah tanking lmao
Just kill

[glass monolith]

Yuu, what is that 3x3 overlapping squares around my operators

[ionic zenith]

Woooo I finally beat IS-10, that was the issue

[glass monolith]

Good luck on Ex-3/ex-8, you screwed

[sonic willow]

wait what dmg too fast boss doesn't fly in time or sth?

[analog kiln]

the charged hit cannot be interrupted, it will delay bombardment until its done

[sonic willow]

oh damn

[fierce dragon]

Why doesn't my ch'en do that

[vernal lion]

you have to give enough atk buff for her

[fierce dragon]

Ah yea

Well she still barely does anything

[frigid kite]

Also Amiya included too

[cursive wedge]

castle-3

[glass monolith]

And it is not even H stage

[vernal lion]

don't even need medic lol

[cursive wedge]

das allota vanguards

[outer sail]

You know, I just realized as much as I hate SSS, I can probably stop doing it for a while because of the imbalance of how many data blocks you can obtain vs the SSS rewards:

[sly pivot]

its not enough

i know a guy whos gatekept by module mats

u need to keep grinding

[latent monolith]

I have like 60 module blocks maybe I should get more modules

Idk for who though

[outer sail]

I'm gatekept by data blocks is what I mean. So unless they start showering free blocks onto us, SSS can take some weeks off.

Or mabye I need to spend sanity on red certs to buy the blocks from taht shop or something, I dunno

[cursive wedge]

the last time i did sss was when they nerfed it

[outer sail]

I love IS SO much, and hate SSS about equally haha. Such a garbage mode.

[proud drift]

people e2 proviso just for base right

or does she not need e2

[glass monolith]

e2 is +1 gold bar, bruh

It is like using Tequila combo with e0 Tequila. It is there, but why not make it better

[vernal lion]

man I swear that the opening of this stage is still fucking ass annoying as heck

[outer sail]

Yes... I got lucky this week, but holy crap that one is annoying for the first couple waves.

[rough anvil]

Yeah opening on that one is a pain

[vernal lion]

I mean the problem isn't trim medal but, it's so shit

even you make a mistake, you're done for

[outer sail]

The worst part, is that you don't even necessarily have to make a mistake. You could play perfectly and get RNG-screwed by your draws. Especially with how bloated your roster is by that stage.

[wintry hinge]

How can I beat IS-8

My main problem is when the the first fragmilia cleaner comes just comes too many casters and high def enemies

[glass monolith]

Place mudrock in top middle and 99% of stage is done. Now just hyper focus your Pozy S3, Exu, Ceobe on killing whatever walk up to Mudmud. Throw Surtr and maybe Gravel to stall Cleaners from cleaning your existance

[proud drift]

I remember complaining about that SSS map and getting a lot of shit for it

suddenly other people now hate it too

cause apparently

[latent anvil]

the latest one is the hard one

[proud drift]

"just use vanguards lol"

[latent anvil]

all the other ones easy

[proud drift]

I meant the one naga posted

[latent anvil]

ya ik

it okay to me

[proud drift]

idk it's stupid as fuck

[latent anvil]

just use vanguards lol

[glass monolith]

I loved it prenerf, when it just send 6 lancers on top. This map stopped like 10 trim attempts to me

[wintry hinge]

Can Bagpipe and Mountain stall or they die fast

?

[latent anvil]

i mean they can kill a few enemies but if you just do myrtle bagpipe -> mudrock you should be fine...

dont bring exu, even lava is better i think

[outer sail]

You need a proper Defender. Liskarm doesn't count. Cuora, Hoshi, Nian, etc.

Oh wait, I'm thinking EX-8... IS-8 might be similar though, I haven't tried low rarity shenanigans for it yet.

Might need some AoE too. Borrow a Chalter or something.

Or a Mlynar

[glass monolith]

"low rarity" My dude literally dropped E2 Surtr and Mudrock

[sonic willow]

Half the team is 6star

[outer sail]

Yeah, but messing around with low rarity helps with understanding of stage cruxes and the best ways to handle them with a bigger variety of ops, you know?

I roflstomped it with rarity abuse, so it's hard for me to help anyone who struggles unless I do low rarity stuff.

[glass monolith]

I restrict myself from using "balanced" 6* and scramble my teams now and then

When i started game i got Chalter and Chaltering i did

[outer sail]

I usually try to use whatever I want at the time (I'm fond of things like Aak + Carnellian, for example), and if that doesn't work I'll meta brute force, and then go back and mess around with more restrictive strats, if the stage is fun.

Or to try and help people out. But sometimes it's hard with a super old account to get strats that will work for people, outside of like "Borrow Ling and solol lulz"

[inner leaf]

oh thanks

[gentle finch]

ok so

[signal flicker]

Saga Gator texalter or pozy texalter

[gentle finch]

first step we need to floor the boss

[gentle finch]

only option i see is ling S2, unless it's bind

well idk if bind floors highmore

[inner leaf]

yea ling s2 is bind
iirc it doesnt floor her

[glass monolith]

It doesn't like sucks

[visual cove]

what is iirc

[gentle finch]

ok

[signal flicker]

Base

[gentle finch]

ntrk

[outer sail]

if I recall correctly

[gentle finch]

does she stun on deploy

[inner leaf]

doesn't stun air
i've tried

haven't tried s3 but apparently that doesnt stun either

[gentle finch]

ok

[cursive wedge]

use texas

s3

[gentle finch]

you seem to be fucked

[cursive wedge]

but not i. squad

[signal flicker]

For a new account

[inner leaf]

that's what i thought

[signal flicker]

Which one's better

[cursive wedge]

1st imo

[outer sail]

Pretty sure you need click S2, May S2, W S1, Texalter S3... I'm not sure if it's possible to nuke it down without grounding...

[inner leaf]

only way i can think of beating it is if the aspd on deploy works for ling s2 summons

[gentle finch]

yeah he is most likely dead

[latent monolith]

Any air CC works

Erato S1 cliffheart S2 Kroos alter etc

[inner leaf]

i literally have no air cc lol
in the squad

[gentle finch]

look at his squad first

[outer sail]

Gnosis might work. Not ALL CC works, like, root doesn't work right?

[gentle finch]

before talking

[inner leaf]

squad ^

[latent monolith]

Yeah that's a problem

[outer sail]

Sleep works? That's good to know.

[inner leaf]

stun, freeze, sleep works

[gentle finch]

I am of the opinion that you are fucked

[glass monolith]

Can Kafka even sleep air?

[outer sail]

Don't think so.

[turbid badge]

lol does levitate work

[fluid sail]

if you’re trying to sleep highmore Erato is probably your best bet

[glass monolith]

Levitate makes ground unit flying one, how you levitate DRONE?

[turbid badge]

idk what happens

[outer sail]

When I beat Highmore blind 1st try I had Ling and Texalter S3 haha

[inner leaf]

hooray
first time i get to the end stage and im screwed before i start

recommendations of ops to raise so i dont run into this issue again?
preferably 4 or 5 stars

[glass monolith]

(honestly i don't know and before Ho'ol we won't even be able to try it i think... Unless this cringe 5* caster can do it on drone

[latent monolith]

No

[turbid badge]

qanipoolt

[glass monolith]

QQP

[gentle finch]

click for 4* can stun boss ig

most reliable is Texas alter S3

[glass monolith]

Don't try to make me with Deslexia and no native english to even read his name

[outer sail]

Uhhh... May? Not sure if her targeting will get Highmore though... Why no 5 or 6 stars?

[gentle finch]

kroos alter, erato and mayer are also good for flooring her

[fluid sail]

you could start with a borrowed texalter

[gentle finch]

erato doesn't need much investment, just E1

[inner leaf]

4 or 5 stars are fine

but im thinking for future is3 runs
i dont want to deal with this issue again

[turbid badge]

for highmore u can just have Horn

[gentle finch]

also

you need reliable boss killer

[fluid sail]

horn can’t hit air so you have to get it down somehow first
once it’s down she obliterates it

[turbid badge]

ohh yea

[glass monolith]

Most reliable of them all:
HOLE

[gentle finch]

surtr i never tried her but i imagine the aspd down would fuck her over on 2nd phase if not first

[latent monolith]

Surtr isn't that good, 70 res boss (with more on higher difficulty), and massive aspd down aura

[outer sail]

Don't you need like Angela S3 + Weedy S3 + an item to do that though?

[glass monolith]

without attack speed relics phase 2 aura makes you attack 5 times as slow

[gentle finch]

best boss killer in my experience is: horn, Pozy, mlynar, (penance on lower diff), shift strats

for end1

oh and goldenglow

lmao

[outer sail]

What's the requirement for End2? I'm gonna start grinding that out and try the perma-CC strat.

[gentle finch]

for lower dif

[glass monolith]

i don't know how much you need, but let's be honest, with all IS3 bullshit i rather wish for such solution that legally do it

[latent anvil]

hire the knight and then protect him till floor 5

[ebon oxide]

does this actually fucking work

[glass monolith]

Find knight, feed him not 1 die roll or 2 hope, make with him alive to floor 5

[outer sail]

Oh man, I was totally on a run that had that going, and I lost to... Some BS stage, don't remember.

[gentle finch]

you can hole every boss besides knight

[fluid sail]

if you can get it into the hole it dies yeah

[ebon oxide]

how tg

angelina charm collectible
angelina s3
weedy s3??

[glass monolith]

You can floor bosses of ending 1, 3 and 4 apparently, some hole enthusiast uploaded to bilibili

[latent anvil]

use the die to hire him, you only need 2 or higher.... (tho i myself rolled 1 twice in a row )

[fluid sail]

Angelina weedy and the -1 weight relic

[ebon oxide]

jesus

does this work on difficulty 15

[latent anvil]

its close to frame perfect i think

is what kermit said

because weedy die fast

or maybe that end4

[ebon oxide]

i mean u just need +sp artifact

then deploy weedy, angy, activate, then undeploy instantly

[latent anvil]

its the timing of where the boss is on the tile

[glass monolith]

Undeploy is ending 3 shenanigans

[latent anvil]

well undeploy prob works everywhere... it'd make sense if it did

or maybe i should say it wouldnt make sense if it didnt

[ebon oxide]

can u guys link me the hole strat

i gotta try it for the absolute hilarious

[latent anvil]

hmm

@cosmic dagger gib hole strat

[lethal dragon]

You just push

[ebon oxide]

as in what's the setup

[glass monolith]

Weedy, roll with it

If it doesn't work, die

on hard difficulties you used to it anyway

[ebon oxide]

that's the weight of highmore

I can't seem to find

[glass monolith]

6

Ending 1 and 3 - 6, Ending 2 - 5, floor 3 boss - 4, exception duo - priest is 3, crab is 1

[ebon oxide]

so she can be brought down to 4 weight

[lethal dragon]

Use this site
https://tomimi.dev/en/stages/ISW-DF_Curse_of_Cognition

[ebon oxide]

tutu

tyty

[inner leaf]

i was in fact fucked
got to second phase then everyone died

[gentle finch]

🔥

[glass monolith]

We have Mostima at home
Mostima at home: Me stacking Astgenne + Manticore in SSS

[whole hearth]

W with enough skill activation relics is also really good

[stone granite]

Should I get Mon2tr or wait for Kal'tsit's second module?

Also which one of Hoshi's modules should I build?

[main solstice]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1o24y1f7jB

thats highmore push

you dont need relics or angelina

[digital thistle]

So 7-18...

Am I just messing up the mines super hard? The boss keeps surviving with a little health from eating 4 mines and a full surtr

Not really used to this but trying it with a full squad instead of all the mine micromanagement on the side

[fresh copper]

You just need to Surtr it harder

[glass monolith]

Surtr second time he takes enternity to pass even half stage

[digital thistle]

He just lives through this

And then if he respawns too close he just invuls into the second surtr

[glass monolith]

damn i will LT-4 toron on this reset. Because Toron is sucks to hard to do 2x LT-2

[vital arrow]

Borrow a mlynar or a kaltsit instead

[true arrow]

what AH comps do you guys use? so many fun operators so little squad places

[vital arrow]

But theres only 4 members of AH

Well 5 if you count both specters

[true arrow]

you can use specter now and skadialter, 6 in total

[vital arrow]

Skalter isn't even AH

[true arrow]

but she gains a small bonus

i count her as one

what do you fill the rest 6 places with?

[vital arrow]

Thats like half of your slots to have fun with

[glass monolith]

Me with Fia + Quercus/Chen/Archetto + Warf/Sora/Shamare/Elysium combo: Hey, shut up

[turbid badge]

wow!

[sonic willow]

are you doing a surtr solo or something

[digital thistle]

Nope, full squad in the right (though surtr lets me do whatever there)

No matter how hard I blew him up even with my caster skilling on him the full duration he still lived

Just panick deployed like two mages and lappland on him and finished off the last little bit

Then phase 2 is a joke

idk what kept going wrong at all though

[toxic bridge]

question

about strategy and a squad

[glass monolith]

Kill enemies outside blue box. With operators who can do it

[toxic bridge]

i think you guys can figure out that this is a gimmick and which gimmick it is, i just wanna know who should i aim to get?

god damn

sorry, isnt related to the chat just impressed you did 221 pulls

[potent hornet]

I'm stupid and or blind

Sorry

[glass monolith]

There should be enough time to save of Yato guaranteed pity if you skip banners if you wonder about it

[toxic bridge]

no no i meant my message mate, i dont think yours is in the wrong place sorry

[glass monolith]

If gimmick is "rarely used operators only" why Liskarm in there?

[toxic bridge]

uhhhh, it was guns

not rarely used

[glass monolith]

Absinthe was not gun wasn't she? She was "Harry, you are Core caster"

[tidal sedge]

It's a gun-like wand

[toxic bridge]

this gun get's it

[cursive wedge]

where ash tachanka frost and blitz

[glass monolith]

paprika does finger guns

[latent anvil]

That is literally EXACTLY what I was gonna say

[cursive wedge]

[toxic bridge]

but yeah, it was her father's gun she turned into a wand

[tidal sedge]

The Leonhardt bit from a side event explains such wands

[latent anvil]

Chalt has a gun

[cursive wedge]

fire watch uses gun too

[latent anvil]

And exu

[glass monolith]

WHERE AMBRIEL

[toxic bridge]

didn't play at the time of their banner

[toxic bridge]

don't haver her

[toxic bridge]

or her

[toxic bridge]

only her costume

in the meantime i somehow pulled andreana

so, another gun added

[cursive wedge]

aosta too

[cursive wedge]

sad

[toxic bridge]

also no

[cursive wedge]

same lol

[toxic bridge]

hmmmmm my keyboard is acting up

dang

lemme

yeh, one sec fellas

[glass monolith]

It happens to me when i find my face in middle of it out of fatigue

[toxic bridge]

well, i think its fixed now, that was weird

thank goodness folinic exists

cuz i count her launchers as guns

hmmm, pain but sure

time to E2

to regret it later kekw

[tidal sedge]

Andreana isn't using a real gun

[toxic bridge]

it looks like one

[cursive wedge]

hmmm

[toxic bridge]

like, big time

[cursive wedge]

i think horn uses a gun

or semi cannon

[toxic bridge]

dont got horn

[tidal sedge]

Grenade launchers are something anyone can use in the setting weirdly enough

Meteorite, Skullshatterer, etc

[toxic bridge]

still looks like a gun so im counting it in, cuz technically no one fires guns in the game, its pretty much all arts magic

[turbid badge]

water gun

[glass monolith]

Chalter has invisible water truck and hyper pump to make that water gun keep high contant pressure

[scenic mauve]

What IS3 map/boss is this?? I’m on normal diffic

[glass monolith]

Frostnova 3.0

[scenic mauve]

I’m sorry?

[glass monolith]

Well she won't be

[scenic mauve]

ah ok ok

Any idea what I can type to look up how the map goes and I can plan ahead for the boss?

[glass monolith]

At least no tile ban... I think

[scenic mauve]

…

[glass monolith]

i didn't reach any of IS1 bosses to check yet

[turbid badge]

use adnachiel

oh wait

[toxic bridge]

whut

[glass monolith]

Laterano is like america. You get a gun ownership, and you get gun ownership, and you...

[turbid badge]

real

he doesnt have a gun , yet

[rough anvil]

What kind of sad gun knights is this

No exu, no fia, no enforcer

[turbid badge]

lmao

lol

fia uses a rocket launcher smh

[rough anvil]

Idk man, that just looks like a shotgun to me

[crystal meteor]

What's the cm condition in is ex 8?

[glass monolith]

I love how "fewer" = NONE in Hypergryph language

[gleaming lodge]

It's technically correct

Sometimes they say "-3 knight crests"
And upon entering the stage you realise there was only 3 to begin with

[glass monolith]

Don't give me CC8 ptsd

[scenic mauve]

Oof...

[scenic mauve]

Does anyone else know what boss this is on IS3? It's part of the hidden paths where you get transported to some other path

(Normal difficulty btw)

[snow bronze]

thats just the walmart frostnova from is1

idk what ur question is

[turbid badge]

isnt it eoe

oh wait

aa it loks like it

Frozen monsteosity

yea

it looks like a napkin

[turbid badge]

oh i was refering to her other hand

lol

[scenic mauve]

"Frozen Monsteosity"?

[turbid badge]

its a is1 boss

Frozen Monstrosity

[scenic mauve]

Ah ok, interesting

Never was able to make it to any of the IS1 bosses back then

though I kinda wish they brought back IS1 for fun

[turbid badge]

Yea

they have all the bosses tho

in wonderland in is3

[scenic mauve]

ah interesting

[snow bronze]

is1 was ok but outside the music it really wasnt that special

[dark violet]

I think this event made me stop using chalter

I just didn't see a reason to use her in the stages, I ended up removing her from my squad, dorothy seems like she fits a similar role well enough and has a lot more flexbility and fun uses

goodbye water gun, landmines are my new friends

[lucid pebble]

how do i deal with the top right guy

[crystal meteor]

I just tanked him then blocked at the tunnel exit

[latent anvil]

goldenglow, sniper on the top right ranged tile, maybe schwarz/fartooth, maybe pozy

wait does pozy reach? i dont think so

[crystal meteor]

Her typewriter can

[dark violet]

I used andrea with skalter s3

nuked him

perfect spot to maximize module

moment

[latent anvil]

abyssal hunters except they hired a bunch of foreigners to help

[dark violet]

tbh I barely use the specters cause they're too strong

I mostly use them when I need defenders

[turbid badge]

lol just kill him

[crystal meteor]

It's illegal to not use Ifrit when there's an ifrit lane unless you place fartooth there

[dark violet]

I'm using dorothy instead, ifrit suffered enough

[crystal meteor]

It's like ignoring an en passant

[turbid badge]

lol

[dark violet]

my squad is a mish mash of ops I like ye

[crystal meteor]

Look at ifrit go💪

[turbid badge]

e0 swire

[latent anvil]

ling

[turbid badge]

[dark violet]

now that I removed chalter, it has become less meta, which is for the better

[crystal meteor]

I had no guard chips

[lucid pebble]

ifrit didnt kill fast enough

[turbid badge]

what level is she

[lucid pebble]

e2 60

[turbid badge]

huhh

[crystal meteor]

Chalter didn't become less meta, you're just too stupid to use chalter

[latent anvil]

masteries?

[lucid pebble]

none

[latent anvil]

[dark violet]

you missed what I said earlier

I said my squad became less meta

because I removed chalter

[latent anvil]

@lucid pebble you want me to add you

[turbid badge]

u can than just use any operator with the range to kill it or just use ifrit + something like a lord

to wallhack

[lucid pebble]

sure

[latent anvil]

Kugisaki#0721

i culled you before

[turbid badge]

lol

[lucid pebble]

added

[dark violet]

this is the new squad, IS truly changed it

[latent anvil]

both ifrit and schw up

[lucid pebble]

thanks

[cursive mango]

Beat ex-3 today and it was very hard

[lucid pebble]

which would be better

ifrit methinks

[latent anvil]

just go ifrit

[lucid pebble]

kk

[latent anvil]

my schw not max mod so it defektiv to me anyways

[cursive mango]

Is texalter mods that important?

[dark violet]

it's useful

but I tested her a bit at e2 20 and she was already broken

[cursive mango]

Which skill is usually modded?

[sonic willow]

mod1 is bigger dps boost than mastery

[cursive mango]

Ya gotta be kiddin

[lucid pebble]

ok ifrit killed him but i placed ops in the wrong order

i think penance can just solo bottom lane

[cursive mango]

Pulled Elysum today, very happy, though do I need to invest fully apart from skill?

[latent anvil]

like level him up more? no

[crystal meteor]

Just hold a choke point near the blue box

[cursive mango]

His E2 buff to snipers looks really nice ;-;

[turbid badge]

Nice

[latent anvil]

ya i kinda meant past e2 you can leave him e2 lvl1, not like e280

[turbid badge]

waiting for chalter skin so i can use her

[turbid badge]

yea

[latent anvil]

tho my elysium has been sl6 since forever.....

[turbid badge]

than Flagberer mod ddrops

[lucid pebble]

WOOOO I DID IT

that was so scuffed

[cursive mango]

Are all of texas skills worth modding?

[latent anvil]

mastery or mod

[lucid pebble]

if by modding you mean mastery, 1 is not worth it

[cursive mango]

Oh I did the moddy thing, not in base right?

[lucid pebble]

uh

[latent anvil]

mod is just a permanent buff to the op

the one in base is mastery

[cursive mango]

Yee I did that

[latent anvil]

yea mod applies to everything

[lucid pebble]

im not gonna do the final ex stage rn but thanks for the ifrit !

[latent anvil]

[cursive mango]

I’ve got so many units in need of levelling xd

Ifrit is my only good caster but at E1 currently

Completely out of loxic so, until event is over, I can’t do much there

Where does the difficulty ramp up for ex stages?

I can try plan ahead at least

[latent anvil]

people have trouble on 6 and 8, i had the most trouible on 3 and 8

[cursive mango]

Having just done 3 not looking forward to more

But I’m a problem solver at heart ^^

[gentle finch]

veggietales

[tribal tide]

I'm trying to avoid outright looking at a guide, but can anyone give me a hint about IS-EX-3? I feel like I'm not even "understanding the question" for the stage

[gentle finch]

cm?

[tribal tide]

no, just the regular one - I could brute-force it if I wanted but I feel like I'm not understanding the basic idea

[gentle finch]

ah ok

what's your squad like

[tribal tide]

"deliberately suboptimal trust farm"

[gentle finch]

ok cool

first step

take penance on S3

instead of S2

now we need a decent laneholder

oh penance is the laneholder

[tribal tide]

(i started out with that but she got swamped before she could snowball, was trying S2 to see if it helped)

[gentle finch]

alright

can I see your other operators

built

[storm current]

theres no way thats enough art dps

especially CM

just go normal squad

its just 10 sanity

[gentle finch]

you want to specifically clear it with that?

[tribal tide]

I have a lot of dudes built up, not all 6* though
I can live with giving up on the jank squad
can't show all here without image spam
brb, dinnertime

[gentle finch]

well I'm sure if you wanted to you could just clear the stage with your regular squad

[civic nest]

u should just be able to rarity abuse it with your ops

[gentle finch]

but that's no fun!

[sonic willow]

eyja just cheese by killing the cars without spilling mafia (which triggers blood debt)

[storm current]

you dont need to rarity abuse

[gentle finch]

anyways

[storm current]

but those units are too shit

[gentle finch]

where do you place her

honestly even if you get penance to work idk who's killing the assassin

your squad has no reliable "tanky" op
(at least 2 block, decently defensive stats)

if you wanna improve that squad might consider bringing one

[tribal tide]

if the answer is "squad is too jank to survive," so be it, I'll actually make a decent team and do something like "no 6*" for the challenge
is no big deal, just thought I wasn't understanding the puzzle

[gentle finch]

yeah

[sonic willow]

I think the idea is to kill the cars it's hard to block them shits AND stop the hitman from top if you let the cars deliver problems

[gentle finch]

2 ops in there can't be healed yet you bring two medics to heal the rest of your squad
but the rest of your melee ops are squishy asf so they just die

if you count vigil then 3

[civic nest]

wait can a e1 aurora tank the assasin with 2 medic

[gentle finch]

🤷

where she pulling SP from

😔

[lethal thunder]

might be kinda dumb question but can you dismantle like the higher materials into the lower tier ones?

[civic nest]

nope

[gentle finch]

can't

[hollow forum]

you can't

[lethal thunder]

T_T okie

[turbid badge]

Nooope

[gentle finch]

Uh

can you only get medic recruit vouchers for the monthly squad in is3

???????

[foggy grove]

no

[gentle finch]

ok

I've gotten 5 in a row

[cursive wedge]

i agree

i had to recruit two starting medics

[ebon oxide]

is wave 15 really that hard (i cleared wave 13 no problem so im close to w15)

[storm current]

They scale exponentially ye

Oh wait im late

[analog kayak]

I tried to pull for Texas but failed, however in the process got a lot of 5*, What's my best general team?

[turbid badge]

r..e..roll?

[ebon oxide]

only a little more hp and def from wave 13

[storm current]

Hmmm

[turbid badge]

hehe but umm

[ebon oxide]

it shouldn't be too bad

[storm current]

Best recommendation for you is just

[ebon oxide]

reroll

[storm current]

Reroll for texalt

[ebon oxide]

i say reroll

150%

[analog kayak]

what if I don't reroll?

[storm current]

Nah they scale per floor lol @ebon oxide

[signal lichen]

do u even have your free 6* yet

[heady hedge]

hoshi shining 💀

[signal lichen]

i take it no

[ebon oxide]

i know

it's uh

[analog kayak]

I got shining

[signal lichen]

oh

[storm current]

Well you just lose out one of the best units in the game

And both of those 6* are mediocre

[ebon oxide]

84.24% -> 101%

so i think it's meh

not that bad

i killed boss super easily on wave 13

[turbid badge]

honestly you can just stay your units you currently have built

[snow bronze]

bosses also get a 20% on d15

[ebon oxide]

yea but if i can onecycle highmore phase 2 on w13

i don't think w15 is that bad

eh idk

[analog kayak]

I don't think the current units I have built are all that good, that'y why I am asking what should be used here in the first place

[turbid badge]

oh

[signal lichen]

see normally i would say just forget rerolling but its a limited and your starting 6* also are bad so yeah. if your determined to not reroll then i would say focus on specter get amyia e1 a few levels and

yeah idk really lol

[ebon oxide]

my squad shifts around
texatwo horn elysium base
mizuki left side
pozy optional, mlynar optional, surtr optional, warfarin optional

atm ^

only problem in my last run was f5 emergency

[ebon oxide]

so realistically it's like a
264%?

from 202

[turbid badge]

reed isnt that great same can be said with greyy, the rest are all decent with whatever purpose you need,

honestly earthspirit sucks until u e2 her and can get her module, orchid does her role but better at e0-e1

[ebon oxide]

eh ill figure

[snow bronze]

idk lmao

[signal lichen]

earthspirit isn't really worth it

[analog kayak]

so far from what I have read I use these characters, but I can still add 4 more to use

[tidal sedge]

What is zaaros phase 2 atk stats, gotta find something to borrow so I can incinerate him

[turbid badge]

kroos

lol

[analog kayak]

probably a sniper like Greyy, Grey, Kroos, or Luna

[signal lichen]

most of your 3* i thought where leveled

so thats good

amyia and specter i would say from here and maybe courier a little later to e1

[turbid badge]

Add Kroos and stewar

[signal lichen]

yeah thats mostly good stuff to raise and use

[turbid badge]

U can invest in cutter or that can just be a flex slot of whoever u like

honestly since its early game i recommend 2 marksmen

so prob gt

[analog kayak]

So this is kind of a team and I should keep trying for the Texas?

[storm current]

Yes

[turbid badge]

Ye for sure

[storm current]

Reroll until texas

[signal lichen]

reroll 110%

[storm current]

Quality over quantity in this game

[analog kayak]

if I get her who does she replace here?

[turbid badge]

anyone

probably liskarm

[analog kayak]

ok, thanks

[signal lichen]

everyone can be "used" or is ok its just your resources are constantly going to be tight so picking out the more quality units is gonna make things a lot easier for you in the long run

[analog kayak]

wait so I just looked in my inventory and I have an item that lets me pick a free 5 star, is there a good one here to replace someone?

[cursive wedge]

id just keep rerolling

[storm current]

Typically you pick lappland if you dont get lappland

[turbid badge]

yea

Lappland 100%

[analog kayak]

I got lappland and found another one, but it seems significantly less useful

[turbid badge]

she makes chapter 4 so easy

[cursive wedge]

red > texalter

[signal lichen]

probably red

[storm current]

If your goal is getting texalt

You may skip red

[signal lichen]

well yeah thats true

[storm current]

You can go silence if you dont get any better ST medic

[analog kayak]

It's a bit late, I saw red and clicked them, sorry

[signal lichen]

surely shining will pull through

[analog kayak]

anyways now I have red and Lappland, to replace someone here

[signal lichen]

probably liskarm

[storm current]

You liskarm and hoshi share role so you can kick liskarm out for a healing defender

Like gummy or spot

[analog kayak]

then why did I get red and lappland only to not use them?

[turbid badge]

just use it to replace specter

Lapp

[storm current]

Well you can kick amiya and orchid out here

[turbid badge]

Shes not that great early on tbh

[storm current]

And prob kick texas for fang if you want too

Texas is very paper early on, since low defensive stats

[analog kayak]

I would but her ability helps a lot since my defenders and healers are expensive

[storm current]

Well

[analog kayak]

oh fang does the same thing

[signal lichen]

yeah fang is also great early on

[tidal sedge]

What is zaaros phase 2 atk

[turbid badge]

In cm or

20%. increase in Cm

[scarlet ledge]

@storm current exe alt real

[civic nest]

reaper guard

[storm current]

Oh revealed?

[civic nest]

but he use a fucking shotgun

lets go

[turbid badge]

HOLYY

secon geeks

this is HUHE

[scarlet ledge]

yep reaper guard

[storm current]

I will look around

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye loli

[turbid badge]

omg safa skin

[scarlet ledge]

i mod 3 rosa on cn

pensive shit

[storm current]

Uh

What new mods did we get

Watching the pv now i guess

[civic nest]

artificer mod

[whole hearth]

aak

[turbid badge]

Geek mods

Ft and blemi s2nd mods

Flametail

[cursive wedge]

me when no bilibili accoount

hopefully on yt soon

[turbid badge]

me when no arturia

[civic nest]

theres already on yt

[turbid badge]

[cursive wedge]

drop link pls

[civic nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtrZb9HLLgQ&t=85s

[cursive wedge]

[turbid badge]

anyway papeika skin❤️❤️

[civic nest]

saga skin is actually real

matoi simp in shambles

[storm current]

Flametail and blem mod doesnt seem promising

[turbid badge]

so much new angels

[storm current]

Paprika skin too

[turbid badge]

lol her buff looks like a exu spotlight

Exu skin

spotlight

[storm current]

I got her from texalt banner

[cursive wedge]

is saga skin free

[storm current]

It can be

Its not the same collection as paprika shalem fartooth

[cursive wedge]

yea

would be nice if it is

[scarlet ledge]

bro my cn acc is broke

i module 3 rosa

and did s2m3 mastery

[civic nest]

i thought all of your acc were broke

[scarlet ledge]

en alt and jp is doing fine

not bad as cn

when i have to buy mats using green cert

💀

[civic nest]

thats normal mr

[vernal lion]

Saga skin is a bless... after almost 3 years

[scarlet ledge]

@civic nest ngl im sxcited to blem mod 2

if its good

ill raise her

[civic nest]

wait and its gonna be as disapointing as fucking ange mods

[sharp wadi]

Vigil mod when gimme wolf 1000% hp

[storm current]

Current module is quite good already

[latent anvil]

[civic nest]

i would s3m3 vigil if hg actually decide to buff the wolf

hp btw

[turbid badge]

yea

1.5k hp💀

[sharp wadi]

Or just buff some hp like guard and each wolf gain double strike each wolf and more def ignore.

Mumu sucks probably HG gonna fix them entire class too

[civic nest]

mumu is good tho

decent choice for is3

good for general content

vigil wolf just need to be a bit tankier

and he would be fun to use

[sharp wadi]

Good? Sigh still decent,just for fun but summoned stat is too low, copy those thing I would go back to pick my trusty kal

[civic nest]

its 90% of the og

its pretty decent my dude

also actually able to attack air is a big plus

stacking with stuff like bladedance in is3

very cool

[turbid badge]

i mean the summons arent like cracked but like she can also regenerate dp

[storm current]

During skill

It becomes 0.9 * 1.5 * 5

[sharp wadi]

I didn't care about dp mumu mainly isn't for dp

[sonic willow]

I mean vigil is just like muel

[civic nest]

shes a vanguard for a reason

[scarlet ledge]

wtf cn spai

[sonic willow]

if you used muel to clone yato vanguard

[civic nest]

leite after talking abt his 120 cn alt

[scarlet ledge]

110*

[civic nest]

oh not 120?

unbelivable

[scarlet ledge]

get it right

[civic nest]

yes

[frigid kite]

Well Reaper shotgun sounds like a cool concept

[civic nest]

im sorry for my horrible mistake

[sharp wadi]

But I can tell tactician vg is decent if sleep strat doesn't exist, agent ines and canta is new meta against dp down 3 now

[scarlet ledge]

ngl idk if im gonna pull for exe2

[civic nest]

a gun is better than a scythe

[sonic willow]

who

[turbid badge]

Wxecutir alter

[storm current]

Uh boring unit boring event lol

[turbid badge]

Exegecccute

[civic nest]

watch the new pv

[storm current]

unfortunately our 6* reaper is not a cute girl

[civic nest]

this is so sad

[sharp wadi]

Reaper sucks we need more amp

[turbid badge]

i like her

[civic nest]

even tho executor is kinda cute

[turbid badge]

she shot ambriel in the back

[sonic willow]

what the

[latent anvil]

what the

[storm current]

Geek

[civic nest]

lets go

[storm current]

Aak archetype

[sharp wadi]

Bocchi

[storm current]

Should be understandabl

[turbid badge]

she cant tax evade anymore

[civic nest]

me when i cant evade taxes

[latent anvil]

think jessica is more like bocchi

[latent anvil]

real?

this is so sad

[civic nest]

cute guy

[storm current]

Exe alt

[frigid kite]

He has a cute robot thought

And, with shotgun asmr on the game while reaping, i'm happy, good unit (i hope)

[latent anvil]

i thought reaper is melee.... i am confusion

[turbid badge]

did u see the angel

in the back

Its all mechanical

real

[latent anvil]

[civic nest]

hes melee

[latent anvil]

[civic nest]

he just use a shotgun instead of a scythe

[frigid kite]

Yeah he just got IS shoes and decided to go melee

[latent anvil]

ah i see

everything makes sense now

[storm current]

I mean

[civic nest]

i hope he isnt hot garbage

really cool

[sharp wadi]

Scythe for intimidating

[storm current]

Mechaniclly reaper and spreadshooter work similarly you know

Using the front 3 tile

[turbid badge]

reminds me of irene s3

[storm current]

True aoe

[turbid badge]

lol

[civic nest]

wat goofy ahh name he gonna be given by the community now
only time will tell

[frigid kite]

Exalter sounds like a name saved for Exuisai Alter

[civic nest]

like that ever happen

[turbid badge]

whats his alter called

[civic nest]

can u read chinese teta

[storm current]

Executor The Covenant

ETC

Et cetera

[turbid badge]

lol etc

ntr

etc

[frigid kite]

Love it lol

[turbid badge]

ntr etc tto

[civic nest]

oh hell nah

etc

[neat skiff]

Ooh, 5 star geek.

[latent anvil]

how did you get to this

[frigid kite]

Who is TTO btw

[neat skiff]

Texas the omertosa.

[storm current]

GTI

[neat skiff]

Aka Texalter, Texas 2, "specialist Texas that is just blatant sexism".

Oh, people tried Texter for a while but it faded within like 2 weeks.

[civic nest]

gay the imposter?

wat

[neat skiff]

Gavial alter.

[civic nest]

wat does gti stand for

oh

uh

[storm current]

Gavial The Invincible

[civic nest]

ignore my message

[storm current]

Is gay and imposter the first 2 thing that pop up in your head

[civic nest]

maybe

im not 12

trust me

[frigid kite]

Take a break from shitpost

[turbid badge]

lmao

the robot is carying his scythe for him

[vernal lion]

it's called a stand

muda muda muda

[civic nest]

wait is the saga skin refering to the seven deadly sins of human

[vernal lion]

surely

[civic nest]

nah this cant be real

[storm current]

Sound about right

But was expecting saga to be gluttony

[civic nest]

true

[neat skiff]

Oh, record restore for under tides. Gladiia is much more available.

[turbid badge]

much more

[lethal dragon]

Can't wait for New blemishine module with more forced kazimiass synergy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882231747322970172.png?quality=lossless

[ebon oxide]

failed is3 wave 14 :(

i only had horn e1

otherwise i would've won

bursted boss to 20% of hp in phase 2 easily

[vernal lion]

hmm this is much easier than floor 7, wtf

[glass monolith]

Recall this bullshit pre-nerf? Me neither

[cursive wedge]

is the boss rly easy now

[analog kayak]

I got Penance :/

[civic nest]

the cycle continues

[analog kayak]

is she better than Hoshiguma or Liskarm?

[civic nest]

for most content

yes

[analog kayak]

better than both?

[civic nest]

yes

shes consider the best juggernaut

[analog kayak]

wait no, I saw wrong, I got Weedy

[snow bronze]

average player doesnt have much use for weedy

[analog kayak]

is Proviso better than Orchid?

[turbid badge]

well yea

Shes good in base too

[analog kayak]

ok, so now I have this as my general team

with these being potential replacment 5 stars

I was also experimenting with Fang instead of Texas but decided not to go with that

[vernal lion]

cigarette can kill ppl fr

[analog kayak]

they look terrified of that cigar

[tidal sedge]

Zaaro phase 2 atk, how much it do and is it multi hit

[glass monolith]

150% crits double hit ranged attack

[tidal sedge]

What

150 PERCENT CRIT

and his atk is 1k on ex 8 right

or is it even more

[glass monolith]

What you want? It is their way of having fun

H11 boss has 125% x 3 attack which turns into lovely 2700 x 3 (8100)

[tidal sedge]

Atleast that attack can be wasted

I have not played h stages

for some reason

[tidal sedge]

Lovely its patriot phase 1, again

[glass monolith]

Until recently i avoided all H stages because i knew it will be shitshow

[turbid badge]

not rrally

this boss attacks slower

[glass monolith]

This boss can be Eunectes S2ed

[latent monolith]

It only does it once every 5 attacks, so you can cycle bodies for it

[kindred galleon]

lately there's something worrying about ak

it's the fact that mudrock can't tank bosses alone anymore

simply because she can't receive healing

[vital arrow]

Huhh?

[kindred galleon]

and then hoshi pretty much just replaces her role

[snow bronze]

what are you cooking

[kindred galleon]

like, the bosses hit so hard even mudrock can't tank it alone lol

in the past she could

[vital arrow]

Is that a bad thing?

[kindred galleon]

not necessarily

[vital arrow]

So it's not worrying then

[sharp wadi]

low m low stat low pot

[snow bronze]

???

[glass monolith]

Patrion, Talulah, IW boss, IC boss, etc etc

[sharp wadi]

s2 need m3 otherwise timing failed mud will die

[vital arrow]

Mudrock can't solo block bosses for a long while, because it's not her job to do so

[kindred galleon]

imagine she gets a mod where she can receive active healing LOL

[latent halo]

Huh , excrist 2 back ?

[kindred galleon]

(kicks hoshi out of afk meta again)

[latent halo]

Did excrist III got hacked

[kindred galleon]

[sharp wadi]

just join in sometime

[heady hedge]

its me

[snow bronze]

idk what ur cooking about mud s2m3 but it sounds like cope

[heady hedge]

just drop skalter on mud

[vernal lion]

wait game is under maintenance now

[gleaming lodge]

Timing ?
Can you please elaborate how exactly you are timing an auto skill ?

[hushed jungle]

whats gonna happen in this node if I continue as 'yes' man

[glass monolith]

Squid - Check message which started this shit

[tidal sedge]

You get an assortment of random options

[storm current]

@hushed jungletop is reward

[hushed jungle]

how many hp will it cost

[glass monolith]

There will be reward, then you will be offered to lose another 2 health with chance to "fail" and gain nothing

[tidal sedge]

It can be stuff like get recruit tickets, keys, dice rolls, money, etc

[hushed jungle]

F, of course chance to fail

[tidal sedge]

It says 2