strategy

[charred void]

how to beat this map, i tried but keep losing

[glass monolith]

As person who didn't use Texas alter on Phantom can't tell. If you have relics to buff Kroos (ATK on skill activation, attack speed) then you have chances

[dapper meadow]

Do we know when next Annihilation unlocks?

[fluid sail]

when the current rotation expires, there’s a timer on it
about 7 weeks iirc

[glass monolith]

When current ends?
Also if i recall right next annihilation is Dorothy Vision so it is shit show worse than current one

[rough anvil]

7 weeks

[glass monolith]

it is rounded in some direction

I never keep track of where it rounds

[dapper meadow]

ok cool, i knew thats when it rotated, guess it makes sense that a new anni would start with a fresh rotation

[glass monolith]

We don't have dead weeks on annihilation luckily

[cursive wedge]

dead week is when u hit orun cap on first day of the week

[glass monolith]

dead week is when you can see me complaining that AP-5 is closed

[cursive wedge]

[dapper meadow]

tfw do Anni 1 every day, to ensure i can use the auto-ticket every day

seems dumb, but it means I can complete daily mission rewards within a few minutes of daily reset. Comes in handy if i ever forget to log in later in the day to do stuff, i will thankfully not miss out on daily rewards

[cursive wedge]

hmmm

why anni 1

[dapper meadow]

it gives +260 Orundum. It allows you do do Anni every day using the auto-complete ticket, thereby finishing a decent chunk of daily mission rewards. All the other annies give a tad more Orundum, so youd only be able to do that usually 5x (if doing most recent anni).

[glass monolith]

You finish "kill X enemies" dailies, for which you can use any stage, "current" annihilation stage take just 5 tickets to hit 1800 weekly cap

[dapper meadow]

Basically, its entirely so i can use the Proxy card, 7x a week, which i want to do specifically so i can complete daily mission rewards in like 5min, versus having to potentially log back in later (which i do anyways, its in case i forget)

[cursive wedge]

i just farm current lmao

[dapper meadow]

its for peace of mind. Dont have to worry if i dont feel like logging in later in the day, where i used to finish the last few daily tasks. This way my daily missions are just done right at reset. So yeah, basically just because i dont always consistently log in more than once a day

[rough anvil]

By my calculation, you lose 15 sanity a week from that, so not the end of the world

[glass monolith]

Don't look behind, there are people who do 1-7

[rough anvil]

You're losing out on 3 rocks a week!!!

[glass monolith]

Day 6, 90 t3 rocks, i love IS event

[dapper meadow]

IS-8 farming, or DH-9 farming and trading badges, then buying rocks from store? Which had better t3 rocks farming?

[cursive wedge]

t3 aren’t rly efficient in events imo

but i still farm them

[random widget]

Istina Think

[frigid kite]

I got 2 T3 rocks once folrol IS-8

[crude oak]

E2 90 M6 Pot 2 Texalter, use both tokens on her now, or save at least one for Yato?

[sharp scroll]

How to beat jellyfish boss in is3 with this ops?

[sonic willow]

mlynar phase 1

poz phase 2

there's a spot you can line up poz and typewriter

[sharp scroll]

How do I position them? Boss has pretty huge range and unfortunately I don't have a good medic

[glass monolith]

Boss damage split among shit in range. commit death blob

[sharp scroll]

[sonic willow]

I don't have the map on me so

[sonic willow]

problem, how do you keep the boss in place

[sharp scroll]

[sonic willow]

how many life you got

[glass monolith]

Boss wastes so much time it is not an issue

[sonic willow]

maybe something like this

[crude oak]

Texas S3, that's how I deal with it

And Horn

[sonic willow]

does typewriter get slowed as well

[vital arrow]

Yes

[sonic willow]

F

[glass monolith]

One of IS missions is do S-4 while deploying your own Vigil

[sonic willow]

good thing I e2'd my vigil

[vital arrow]

I mean he doesn't have to do anything

[sonic willow]

that's what e2 vigil is good at

[latent anvil]

@soft crystal have you speedrun is-10 yet

[soft crystal]

i did

i let them murder

the civis

[latent anvil]

even the last ones from top?

[soft crystal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cC7y3SBOiw&t=162s ya

i followed this one

[latent anvil]

i see i see, the ones that come out near 30 bothered me, had to stall those archer to kill them

[storm current]

Cant you just corpse drag him

Its just -1slot

[turbid badge]

true

Just deploy him in the corner

[hollow forum]

does he need to be alive even

I want to throw him straight into some enemies and let him die instead

[fickle zephyr]

shouldnt

oh 5:06

[hardy fog]

how do i properly kill him

*the boss

[hollow forum]

aoe dps

or texas

[hardy fog]

do i s2 or s3 for texas

[hollow forum]

s3

[hardy fog]

ok

[turbid badge]

Just spam attack the boss

u can just ignore minions

they die when he dies

[dapper meadow]

Both are good choices. S3 slightly more popular. I went S3 first, but been using S2 more (for farming IS stages at least)

[hollow forum]

for IS3, not il siracusano

[dapper meadow]

ah mb. The hazards of jumping between #help and #strategy , little time to read previous context

[hollow forum]

#strategy message

I'm very much aware

[dapper meadow]

yeah meant to reply to Omelette, oops

[hollow forum]

I've already answered him regardless

he wanted a way to deal with the boss and I gave him that

[dapper meadow]

do you have a recommended squad comp for IS3, for people who havent done IS before, but have high level ops?

[hollow forum]

for lower difficulties you can do texas starter

but the comfier way to do it is with gavialt

and hope you pick texas up along the way

[dapper meadow]

Gav+Myl? Or just Gav

[hollow forum]

If you can pick mlynar up later, sure

as far as starting unit goes because you can only pick up a single 6*, gavial only

hence why I said 'starter'

[dapper meadow]

ah ok. Dont know the rules for IS yet

[hollow forum]

just do the good old 3w1u - 3 wolves 1 uncle

Pozy, Horn, Texas and Mlynar

[dapper meadow]

Pozy S3, Horn S1 or S3?

[hollow forum]

depends on the situation, but usually s3 for horn

[dapper meadow]

thanks

[dreamy current]

how do you kill the duck in is?

[hardy fog]

what to pick

you can only use die rolls once per battle right

[hollow forum]

have enough dps and maybe some way to cc him, that's about it.

[dreamy current]

is there a guide somewhere for is?

[hardy fog]

only map info

iirc

[hollow forum]

just pick what you think you'll end up needing later.

and yeah, dice can only be used once per battle

[spiral prism]

What’s the best e1 operator to borrow to deal with none of my business

[hardy fog]

what a bummer

ok thx

[hollow forum]

as far as map info and boss info? sure.

specific detailed guides like stage clears? no

[hardy fog]

i guess I'll just pick light

[dreamy current]

what about what units to upgrade like 4 stars

[hollow forum]

I mean, that'll have to be based on who you have

and it's different for every run except for your starter strategy, so

[spiral prism]

Jaye isn’t as crazy as he was in is2 but he’s still solid

[hollow forum]

texas, I'd imagine

[gentle finch]

why'd you pick light if you have 96

95

oh well

[civic nest]

he just really don’t want to get the funni debuff

the continuously losing hp is cringe

[gentle finch]

🤷

[storm current]

6k atk meteorite

No bladedance is really funny too

[civic nest]

is that the automatically use skill debuff

[storm current]

Yes

Which is

Pretty useless on auto activation already

[civic nest]

meteorite s1 ftw

[storm current]

Funny big number

[civic nest]

big explosive makes brain happy

[storm current]

Cant wait until blue bladedance shenanigans

[gentle finch]

i haven't seen this stage yet

[storm current]

That is floor 6 stage

Fairly easy

[gentle finch]

end3?

cool

[storm current]

Ye, ending 3 is the only way to get access to floor 6 now

[civic nest]

actually did the ice cream boss

[gentle finch]

Cream

[civic nest]

died bcs i couldt kill him

fun

[storm current]

I think my meteorite did 7k dmg onto last knight

No -80%

Ye she gone too

[limpid siren]

💪

[civic nest]

oh yea igneus

[limpid siren]

hello

[civic nest]

is there any good 5* supporter draft

for is 3

[limpid siren]

mayer/shamare are my happy picks

[storm current]

Mayer

[civic nest]

ah i actually forgot mayer

should start working on her

[limpid siren]

the rest are fairly workable at like D8, but i wouldn't worry about them much

decel binders feel a lot worse than in IS2

[gentle finch]

pensive

i can't do full 5* run yet

too broke

[civic nest]

orchid isnt carrying me anymore

[limpid siren]

[civic nest]

😔

[storm current]

I will do 5* run later on my highmore is m3

[limpid siren]

💪

[storm current]

How useful is she

[civic nest]

cute

[limpid siren]

probably can do some fun stuff with her

i like beeswax for where i'm at in difficulty

more stun is nice

[storm current]

I think the phalanx caster should have had thorns effect

Because they are so good at tanking

[limpid siren]

ig so

i think the higher up you go, the less value they'll have

[storm current]

I think i have been enjoyjng indigo for IS3 alot

[limpid siren]

i usually take like

amiya, beeswax, or iris

kinda stings that bind doesn't knockdown

[storm current]

Ye mystic caster is overall better with the new relics

But im not sure how good is 50% atk DOT hands for phalanx

[limpid siren]

they do the most with it

since their base atk is like 2* a bard's or a therapist's

[storm current]

Do they overlapp

[limpid siren]

wdym

[storm current]

Uh

Does the DOT stack

[limpid siren]

probably

but idk

never thought to test

[storm current]

I encounter it quite often

But i never really recruit lumen or mint

And rarely skalter

So cant really tell if it stack

[limpid siren]

yeah

i might raise ceylon for some idiot strat later

so maybe i can test

[storm current]

Lin get around 3k atk for the relic

[limpid siren]

[storm current]

Carnelian is like 3.6k?

Mint and beeswax are only atk scale

So doesnt really work too well

[limpid siren]

garbag

[gentle finch]

lmao

[storm current]

I think out of my current units, these are my favorite so far

Because big numbers meme

And 1 shot nuke

[gentle finch]

i will be forever triggered by that skinless índigo

[solid dew]

haha funny nuke go kaboom

[gentle finch]

kabooooom

[solid dew]

just realised i have basically 0 ops with 1 shot potential, they are all burst lol

eh, that probably wont come back to haunt me in any way

👀

[storm current]

it will be fixed if HG rerun the skin

[gentle finch]

😭

[dapper meadow]

i know they prob wont, but i really hope they eventually have reruns for login event outfits. Sucks i'll never get outfit for Ethan and a few others

[foggy grove]

cope cc shop

[dapper meadow]

dont think CC shop has added login event outfits? Or at least, not any of the ones im missing 😦

[soft crystal]

lumen kinda pog with the burn relic

since he has permanent s3 up

[storm current]

its like

900 atk for him

[dapper meadow]

So ya know how Bags p5 is the "goal" w/rt pots for her. For Texalter, is it p4, for the -2sec on redeployment?

[storm current]

yes

[charred void]

should i get the hand or regional action plan?

[limpid siren]

regional action is 4* hope cost down?

tbh i have no respect for that relic

i would take the hand

[hollow forum]

hand ye

[charred void]

yes

[blissful wren]

So pulling for Tex, I ended up also getting gnosis, how good is he?

[hollow forum]

pretty good, definitely worth raising

[hardy fog]

what r the strat for this

[hollow forum]

show map, forgor which ed this is

[charred void]

is safe house better than emergency ops?

[blissful wren]

I also have Angelina, is Gnosis a better supporter to use for general content?

[hollow forum]

depends if you have anyone you want to e2 or not

generally you'd always go emergency any time you see it, but if you want to E2 someone then safehouse

[hollow forum]

yes

[hardy fog]

3rd floor

[hollow forum]

ah, the duo.

The gimmick is that there are 2 bosses, and you need to kill both at the same time or they will always regenerate

[hardy fog]

both?

[hollow forum]

both, at almost the same time.

if one of them is down they will slowly heal back up, kill the other in that time

[hardy fog]

uhh

[foggy grove]

safe house is good if you want to promote someone else just take emergency

[fluid sail]

one of them lingers for a while in top lane & does ranged attacks, the other does lap around the middle and does melee attacks

[hollow forum]

^

horn can easily kill the one at the top

[hardy fog]

can this clear it

[hollow forum]

sure

[fluid sail]

the one lapping around is really squishy tbh, id wait till the top one is down and then easily burst down the middle one

[hollow forum]

kal and mon3tr hold the top lane

[fluid sail]

also just so you know, a few of the artillery guys come out of the top red box along with one of the bosses but that’s it from the top lane

yeah kal can do it easily

the rest of the stage is fairly easy, just pozy kroos Texas it

[frail wagon]

Kill the duo boss at the same time, it’s quite easy

[hardy fog]

should i use texas s2 or s3 on this

[hollow forum]

either will do, but I'd go s3 to kill the other mobs at the bottom

[frail wagon]

S2 since it shreds both of them faster

[fluid sail]

id do s2 since you have it m3 and there’s not much need for aoe

[hardy fog]

oge

[fluid sail]

can do either, just go with your m3 skill

[hollow forum]

ye

[charred void]

should i do this?

[hollow forum]

most likely not

[cursive wedge]

not worth

[charred void]

how to win this?

use texas s2?

[sly pivot]

either s2 or s3 works

just spam sexas onto the boss

[charred void]

last time i tried the boss just kill my ops in the middle lane

[sly pivot]

im p sure sexas s2 kills in time

like 3 deployments minimum

[latent anvil]

chuck thorns mid face up and you win

[chrome lintel]

Do you all know any app that could simulate an AK map for strategy purposes? Cuz Im tryin to help a friend of mine on formulatin a strat

[charred void]

ok texas s2 with the hand can kill in one deploy 👌🏻

[latent anvil]

https://map.ark-nights.com/areas

[hardy fog]

what does Fortuitous Opportunity do

[chrome lintel]

A bit hard to use

[latent anvil]

😂

what you mean

turn off ur auto translate and use the in-page translate

[hollow forum]

The place for you to trade your relics

If you have any bad one then trade those for smth else

[hardy fog]

ic thanks

[hollow forum]

starting around D3 or D4 you'll get a cursed relic upon reaching the 3rd floor as a modifier, more often than not your goal is to find that node to trade the relic away

[glass monolith]

D3 is random cursed on floor 3, I seen only +25% enemy HP and trigger bad effect on random operator instantly

Oh and -3 light every combat but at this point I either don't care or 40 light

[hollow forum]

yeah, those seem to be the most common ones

[storm current]

Theres also -15 initial sp

[glass monolith]

Get scammed half of my team is reserve on d4

[signal granite]

Asking for IS3,
How to get ending 3?
Just get the relic (reduce light per battle)?

[hollow forum]

that and a 2nd encounter later

[limpid siren]

You need to save at least 20 light for another encounter

[glass monolith]

Reduce light per battle and when given 4 options select 4th one which is -50 light + curse + L + ratio + ending 4

[limpid siren]

Yeah that one

[signal granite]

I just need ending 3

[limpid siren]

That is ending 3

[storm current]

the 2nd encounter is on floor 4-5 afaik

it will say like

first 3 option are -20 light for reward

4th option is curse collectible

pick the 4th

[hollow forum]

eldritch collectible yeah

you'll be locked in after you get that

[signal granite]

Okay, i think i got it, thanks lots

[glass monolith]

I love how Light 100 - roll high for blessing, light 1-99 - roll high to dodge curse, light 0 - roll high to get 2 curses instead 1 because why the fuck do you play die squad in ending 3?

[turbid badge]

do u gust Like the 10 dice squad

[pearl musk]

hello anyone here?

[turbid badge]

Bad

[glass monolith]

10-16 is very annoying if you don't have way to kill cars quickly and/or deal with those chain casters into thicc bros

[turbid badge]

Yea

Just burst them

uhhh just check

In the stage

lol

[glass monolith]

10-11 Hard, 10-17 Easy, 10-16 is my top 3 hated maps in chapter 10

[storm current]

who

cars weak to art

caster weak to physical

blade dude also weak to art

[turbid badge]

lul i just baited the cannon with defenders on left box and just eyja bursted everything

mlynar?

horn is good here

[storm current]

no need

[turbid badge]

ah

[storm current]

you can use normal caster

[turbid badge]

Oh nice

[glass monolith]

I did 10 on release, mlynarless

[storm current]

im not sure if dusk can reach it

[turbid badge]

shhh he probably makes the map easier with his fat ass hp and atk

[storm current]

but low end guide use steward ye

[turbid badge]

do u have ur texas raised lol

E2

ou

[storm current]

texas trivialize it hard ye

the 6* specialist

[turbid badge]

whats ur team

[storm current]

eh it should work

[turbid badge]

oh nice

Gavial

[storm current]

but it help a lot if you bring elemental healer

[turbid badge]

lemme cook something

No borrowing anyone right?

alr

[cunning river]

Does anyone have a clear for this annihilation that doesn't use status effects?

[turbid badge]

Do u have other Defenders

holy shit

mine was so chaotic

loll

any guards?

[dapper meadow]

Like no Honeyberry/Mulberry allowed?

[turbid badge]

this is how im starting

gavial s3

[cunning river]

I meant no debuff appliers, like Lappland

[turbid badge]

lol

gavial s3 shreds

saving surtr for the turrets

but hea

yea

i used it once to live cannon

than again for that wave

2nd wave u might have to use NYRK

NTRK

cuz alot of pressure

and my mudrock dies

lol

also my gavial s3 no masteries

and by 2nd wave i mean 2nd wave of Casters

[cunning river]

How do you handle the artillery guys in the new anni without Hoshiguma?

The do too much damage for that to seem possible

[turbid badge]

which

Shipyards?

[crystal meteor]

what artillery guys

[cunning river]

Yes

[turbid badge]

Huh

[cunning river]

The ones that hit from the other end of the map

[turbid badge]

u mean spewers?

oh

[cunning river]

Yeah, those

[turbid badge]

uhhh

just not get the map all dirty

[cunning river]

Kinda impossible

[turbid badge]

nah

[hollow forum]

do you not have a lappy

[cunning river]

I will not use Lappland, I refuse

[hollow forum]

[turbid badge]

o

well if ur operator isnt tanky

it will probably die

[outer grail]

How do I kill this guy?!?

[turbid badge]

do u have any good sources of CC

[cunning river]

Saria doesn't last, I don't know how tankier I should get

[crystal meteor]

just texalter it

[outer grail]

Oh.

[storm current]

@outer grail you can stun/slow him, so use decel binder or borrow nuker

[outer grail]

THANKS

[cunning river]

Don't have her as well, also they spawn on closed off tiles

So you can't drop anything on them

[turbid badge]

this is how i did it

I used magallan drones to snipe them

lol

but they still killed my ops

[crystal meteor]

i think casters + slow supporters is the cheapest way to do it, other than that borrow a cracked op

[turbid badge]

If u have other ops with Silence

just that please lol

little handies cant save u forever heah

[cunning river]

I mean the others sources of silence suck

[turbid badge]

U just need to use it

on the guys that drop the nethersea

[cunning river]

God I fucking hate SN so much

[turbid badge]

Did u get texas alter?

[cunning river]

No

[turbid badge]

ah darn jt

her s1 has silence

[cunning river]

I got two of the other girl

[storm current]

btw

penance s1 1 shot predator

very funny for top lane

[turbid badge]

lol

[gilded fjord]

omg investing 500 ingots to the shop, takes quite sometime, not sure if there is a faster way

[turbid badge]

well try to silence the guys that drop the nethersea or just snipe them

[storm current]

take 20 intial ingot + 2 hope, recruit mountain to afk the first few stage, spam floor 1 for shop, rinse repeat

[cunning river]

What I was asking is how to do this without silence

[turbid badge]

bottom spewers youll have to get creative

[turbid badge]

I meann

[crystal meteor]

thats how I almost played IS before, grinding that, but i dont even think its worth to do that

[turbid badge]

Theres alot of those guys

And u dont have enough handies

to clean all of them

So u either let ur whole map get coated and u have to just kill them using range

[cunning river]

They really made a whole event based around "have these two operators or go fuck yourself"

[turbid badge]

also if they die on the staircase

they dont drop nethsea

Nethersea

[storm current]

for your information

you can uh

block nethersea brand

[charred void]

is this worth? -15 ASPD? IS2

[cunning river]

They don't spawn in the staircase, I don't think

[crystal meteor]

bruteforce it with a cracked roster

[storm current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/1112385368021549128/Screenshot_2023-05-01-14-59-13-766_com.png?width=1422&height=656

@charred void what floor are you on, depend on if theres a shop in coming, i think you can buy better relic if you have a shop incoming

[cunning river]

Almost like doing that makes the spewers nuke those operators from orbit

[sly drift]

Hardest stage in is3 frfr

[storm current]

?

[turbid badge]

yeah

[turbid badge]

wtf

lul

[storm current]

you can literally seee

[turbid badge]

that stage is nice with highmkre

[storm current]

it work for 400/400

[dapper meadow]

lmao this is awesome and hillarious

[charred void]

5th floor, i not sure if there is a shop, can i go back and check then come back to this or no?

[storm current]

uh you cant go back and check lol

so idk you may skip shop then

-15aspd is ok

[sly drift]

Its emergency node in second round
There's zero way you can win that unless you have E2 mountain or something

[turbid badge]

oh wtf

emegerncy

[charred void]

there is safe house and rogue trader

[turbid badge]

Just use a Pusher

Smh!

the amazing holes there

[storm current]

rogue trader is shop ye

[turbid badge]

Yea just block it

and u can just put a op on above of the staircase
the enemies in the corner go there and if u kill them while they’re on the staircase it wont spread

[cunning river]

But not all of them spawn there, is what I mean

[turbid badge]

well yea but the other enemies that come out the other side dont drop nethersea

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/camp_r_13

[flat sapphire]

https://youtu.be/0wjmAEfjGk0

[cunning river]

I have about two of those operators

[storm current]

al

he asked to not use debuff

[flat sapphire]

should be doable using ranged only with only 1 trapper tbh

[storm current]

bind/stun/sleep count as debuff

[flat sapphire]

bruh

wth

[storm current]

dont ask me

ask him

idk

[flat sapphire]

[storm current]

he refuse to use debuff, including silence

[cunning river]

What can I say

[storm current]

then complain that SN is hard

but inreality

current map is one of the easiest one

[cunning river]

I hate the choices HG made for Stultifera Navis with a passion

[storm current]

i dont think its HG issue

[flat sapphire]

so you would rather that they made an event with 0 mechanics that u can clear with just dps?

shallow event

[cunning river]

No I would rather they made an actually good event

But we didn't have that

[storm current]

its a good event tho

[flat sapphire]

but it is a good one

[cunning river]

SN fucking sucks

[storm current]

because module upgrade is quite funny

[cunning river]

It is probably the single worst part of AK

[storm current]

are you sure its not because of your decision to make the game harder for yourself

[crystal meteor]

he has no lappland 🤌

[flat sapphire]

it's one of the easier ones and it's good lmao

[storm current]

you technically dont need lappland

what people did was just true dmg/freeze

[turbid badge]

Here have fun

[cunning river]

Tecnically

[storm current]

since freeze got triple duration iirc

[crystal meteor]

oh yeah i forgot about gnosis

[glass monolith]

Well i don't have Lappdumb still. Didn't stop me from 🧀

[cunning river]

Doesn't mean that doing the event without her isn't a chore

[storm current]

but it isnt

[cunning river]

Oh right, you also could use Gnosis

Who back when SN came out I didn't have

So

[turbid badge]

u have him now?

than use him

[cunning river]

Have these two operators or go fuck yourself

[turbid badge]

but arent u dieing to spewers

[storm current]

they give you a lot of choice

[cunning river]

It's a compilation of annoying shit

[storm current]

but you refuse to use them

[flat sapphire]

^

[cunning river]

That all boils down to "have silence"

[storm current]

then its not an issue of HG

[flat sapphire]

you can use every other debuff that isn't slow lol

not just silence

[cunning river]

Except every other debuff sucks to disable the dodge

[turbid badge]

no?

[cunning river]

And then there's the netherbrand

Yes

[flat sapphire]

nope

[turbid badge]

They disable dodge than u can easily kill

lol

[storm current]

you can technically ignore the nethersea spread too, only actual problem are reef breaker

[flat sapphire]

look at the vid i sent

[cunning river]

Stun lasts like a quarter of a second for disabling the dodge

[turbid badge]

lmao

theres not even a reefbreaker in this anni

[storm current]

?

clearly

[flat sapphire]

they had 0 silence in that vid. no melee

u can make that work with just a dorothy borrow

[cunning river]

Sure, but they had like a bunch of high rarity operators I don't have

[turbid badge]

Lancer whats ur team

[flat sapphire]

u don't need to have the same ones tho

lol

[storm current]

im pretty sure

[fresh copper]

Skill issue

[storm current]

it doesnt matter for you anyway

if you have option

you would still complain that you have to raise niche units to counter mechanic

[flat sapphire]

u need to realize that the game requires u to have more than just dps

[cunning river]

In general, replacing a 6* translates poorly

[storm current]

have you actually try first

instead of saying that

[flat sapphire]

they had 3 6 stars there, one of which is a healer and the other being only used to kill brandguider. it's a 6 op, u have 7 more slots

[limpid siren]

[charred void]

anyone can help with placement for phantom boss stage in IS2

[storm current]

there are quite

a lot of units you can use

to counter predator

oh ye i forgot to add true dmg

[cunning river]

It's almost like the game waited almost 3+ years to decide they now want you to use debuff- oh wait this is never coming back

Also

[storm current]

[cunning river]

As I said

[storm current]

it will come back

[crystal meteor]

there will be more niche events

[cunning river]

Applying debuff status is terrible with the exception of two operators

[storm current]

[flat sapphire]

no it's not

wtf

[crystal meteor]

tsukinogi carry coming soon

[storm current]

if you dont try

how can you tell

[turbid badge]

wtfart

[rough anvil]

we got enemies weak to silence with ideal city, after SN

and then we got this annihilation, after IC

and im sure whenever the IC annihilation comes around, it'll be relevant again

[cunning river]

Okay, take the guys that spread netherbrand below 50%

[storm current]

[turbid badge]

Just..

block the nethersea

[storm current]

like we said

[dapper meadow]

tfw all the Lapp haters from like 1.5-2yrs ago who said she was dead and completely fallen off... ||(mostly gamepress tbf)||
Who is laughing now??

[storm current]

you can ignore nethersea

or just

block it

it tells you in the tutorial

[cunning river]

You can't stun them, they're super tanky, the only thing you can do is silence them

[storm current]

have you tried

using art

[flat sapphire]

just kill them with arts lol

[cunning river]

The only op of those that has a decent duration being Lappland

[flat sapphire]

wat

[storm current]

it tell you in game

that he gain increased def

[turbid badge]

if u kill nethersea in red box do they spread

i forgor

[storm current]

no

[cunning river]

Almost like it spreads it everywhere it walks?

[storm current]

split boxing work

???

like we said

[crystal meteor]

you will grow older when you understand

[flat sapphire]

u can block the spread

[glass monolith]

He gains so much Def in fact your chapter won't do shit

[storm current]

have you tried blocking

nh

nah

chalter can still work

[turbid badge]

u mean chalter

[cunning river]

Yes

[turbid badge]

lmao

[storm current]

he only has 2k def

[cunning river]

Then the spewers nuke your operators

[turbid badge]

[glass monolith]

It spreads by itself, bubble boy will spawn them under himself

[storm current]

have you tried killing the spewer instead

[cunning river]

That's what I said?

[flat sapphire]

u can kill the spewers?

[storm current]

they are quire fragile

especially with the buff you get

[cunning river]

You mean the ones that are on locked off tiles and also attack on proximity?

[glass monolith]

Well like uh... It can spread to where it didn't walk, it just starts from where it walked

[cunning river]

Guys

[turbid badge]

Just use operators with tiles ahead of them

smh

[storm current]

"attack on proximity" is just any range enemies, except they get even less range

[cunning river]

HG made an entire event dependent on mechanics that had never been relevant before, which of the ops that could them only two of the whole roster were up to standard

[storm current]

[cunning river]

Stop defending bad decisions

[glass monolith]

Somehow they managed to design enemy with less range than Mandragora who can't attack 2 tiles away

[storm current]

arent you the one that doing so

"silence" mechanic has been relevant for awhile

[flat sapphire]

never relevant before? how far are u in the story? have u seen exploding spiders?

[rough anvil]

maybe we dont agree that it's a bad decision?

[storm current]

way before SN

[turbid badge]

fr

[cunning river]

I did those stages without silence

[storm current]

well yes

[cunning river]

So relevant is super subjective

[storm current]

what

[flat sapphire]

wat

[storm current]

if you do them without silence

you should easily know

[rough anvil]

yep, just like many of us did this annihilation without silence

[cunning river]

Because I never had to go out of my way not to use silence

[dapper meadow]

tfw HG starts showing more love towards the game, with new mechanics acting as a breath of fresh air - a nice break from the mindless meta afk op squads

I like it

[storm current]

its much easier with sience

[glass monolith]

In LE you can silence crabs ability to lose defenses when they enter beam, who the fuck made this

[opal kiln]

u can still afk all events

[storm current]

now arent you complaining that the game shouldnt be adding more mechanic into the game?

[cunning river]

I'd say the game has been progressively getting worse and worse

[storm current]

ok ok

let me say it

have you tried not playing the game then

if its not enjoyable for you

[rough anvil]

well

we were all thinking it

[dapper meadow]

||i know, i still do it lol.|| But i then usually go back and do it properly

[flat sapphire]

so making more interesting mechanics is making the game worse?

[cunning river]

If it keeps going in this direction I will 100% drop it

[storm current]

well good actually

[dapper meadow]

aight, bye?

[flat sapphire]

ok?

[storm current]

because they will add even more mechanic in the future

lol

[rough anvil]

its a game, if its not for you, its not for you

[cunning river]

There's interesting mechanics, then there's this. You think they are interesting, I think they're just bad

[crystal meteor]

I want auto battle without playing the game first in arknights 😎

[turbid badge]

alright See you when Pin out drops

[flat sapphire]

ok?

[storm current]

subjective opinion

[dapper meadow]

i mean i think its fair for someone to dislike new mechanics. But you seriously cant have hated all the new mechanics in all recent events? Towers able to be knocked down, the shadow/darkness stuff

[storm current]

if the game literally get no new mechanic

it will become extremely boring and no one want to play

[dapper meadow]

i straight up try and afk all event stages to first clear quickly (before doing them again with non meta ops), so its not like i cant understand why some event mechanics are annoying. But imo, its better than no mechanics at all

[glass monolith]

I fucking hate DV vision "elite" enemy having 1000 Def, 50 Res, damage reduction when not blocked, while doing Arts damage, and when 45 enemies stage have 20 of them because fucking DV don't have enemy variety

[storm current]

well

DV was the event with basically no mechanic

just stat check

[cunning river]

No, those were fine

[storm current]

and guess how much people love it

[flat sapphire]

DV was very straightforward

[turbid badge]

its just a cheesey mechanic , that happens lappland is amazing at doing

because she literally 100% uptime she makes Chapter 4 a joke and Chapter 6 relatively a lot easier. The ability to just shut down an enemy's entire gimmick is broken in the first place.

[cunning river]

I haven't touched Il Siracusano yet but people don't seem to like a lot

[rough anvil]

yeah, i didnt have many opinions on DV at all, didnt feel like ass, didnt feel ingenious

[glass monolith]

Everyone who have leveled Perfumer and basically immune to boss telefrag probably loved it

[turbid badge]

yea its pretty easy

[storm current]

it requires thinking

[cunning river]

Dorothy's Vision was eh

[crystal meteor]

its called skilled issue, eh 🤌

[flat sapphire]

there's a mechanic idk if u'll like it

[rough anvil]

il siracusano is in the same boat as DV for me in terms of mechanics, nothing special, nothing awful

[cunning river]

When did I say I don't want mechanics?

[storm current]

and personally

?

[flat sapphire]

[glass monolith]

New players are fucked by debt collector while old players facerolled everything on red box

[storm current]

you literally just said that

[dapper meadow]

the only mechanic i really dont like is invisibility lol, but i can live with it

[storm current]

[cunning river]

I think you're not understanding what I'm saying

[turbid badge]

lol

[cunning river]

There was a way to implement the things they did in SN well, Hypergryph just didn't

[storm current]

ok

[turbid badge]

lol NL

[storm current]

tell your suggestion in #871797454281015326

not here

[glass monolith]

It is sorta dumb how red box spawn camp actually lead to less debt bar leading to easier time on average

[storm current]

because we are here to help

[dapper meadow]

also the fact that invis units make my auto clears when farming like 5 seconds longer. How dare i be subjected to that

[storm current]

not to hear your rant

because we cant help with that

its totally your choice to refuse to work with mechanic

[dapper meadow]

but objectively...yeah im glad invis is in the game, it adds more flavor

[storm current]

so you shouldnt be complaining

[flat sapphire]

invis is pretty broken when we can abuse it

[turbid badge]

i got excited when i saw grass again

on is3

[rough anvil]

mfw someone didnt like SN mechanics but i rather liked them, i liked feeling like i was using lapp/lee/texas/hoshi/gnosis/fartooth effectively

and the roomba was fun

IC cars were more fun though

[storm current]

newbie only need to do SN-8 and 9 for the materials farm anyway

EX is just extra originite and medal

so even "hard" event are newbie friendly

[dapper meadow]

100% agree. Even though i like my share of afk clearing stuff, getting slapped down by mechanics i was ignoring because i thought i could just brute force them...its a nice change of pace

[storm current]

the fun of mechanic is figuring out the way to clear them

[glass monolith]

When i started game on DH original run i somehow managed to 3 star all 9 stages. If i were to start now i would be filtered by IS-7

[rough anvil]

i have a friend who started the game during this event, so im curious to see how far he'll get in the event and im gonna bet its pretty far

[flat sapphire]

imo IS is actually pretty straightforward too, you can clear if u have enough dps whether or not u pay attention to the bar

[storm current]

i think

the biggest Issue with IS

[dapper meadow]

i literally have no idea how bar works

[storm current]

is the UI

[rough anvil]

oh 100%

[storm current]

there are a lot of people who ask about IS-9

[flat sapphire]

[storm current]

because they cant see the story stage

[dapper meadow]

it hasnt been a problem so far, but it probably will in -EX maybe

[glass monolith]

There is button to make UI human understandable... IF I TO FIND IT

[flat sapphire]

i mean

[storm current]

the enemies arent that bad ye

[fresh copper]

Wait people actually can't find IS-9?

[storm current]

only the hitman is annoying

[glass monolith]

Also during WR rerun i couldn't find shit

[flat sapphire]

there's dotted lines to show u where to go

it's not hard

[dapper meadow]

bro ive gotten so lost in the UI for this event lol

[storm current]

well a lot of people dont look at that

[glass monolith]

Don't underestimate skills of Ling mains

[flat sapphire]

it happened a few times here lol

[dapper meadow]

im good now, but there was a lot of clicking around at first

[opal kiln]

or you can just

[fresh copper]

I thought it was easy to just.... look around the UI

[opal kiln]

[storm current]

a lot of people dont know how the sidequest work either

[rough anvil]

there's just alot of visual clutter that can distract you from it, especially when you're just trying to get to the next stage and not wanting to spend time looking around the map

[storm current]

so

[fresh copper]

Exactly this

[flat sapphire]

this wouldn't show the story nodes tho

[storm current]

i mean you only see IS-9 after ST-3

[flat sapphire]

u need to go to the other tab

[dapper meadow]

yeah but for some reason when i do it from that screen, it doesnt show up as the "Most Recent Stage" in terminal

[rough anvil]

i remember looking for IS-5 and i was like... how do i unlock this shit?

and i clicked every UI button and realized somehow miss is-st-2 interlude at some point?

couldnt figure out where or how i missed it

[glass monolith]

I love how compared to boring gachas where "Shop here, stages here" AK goes full "Fuck it, scramble all UI locations" each event

[storm current]

at least they cant complain that the UI look plain

because people will find everything to complain

[glass monolith]

I couldn't find shit during WR rerun

[rough anvil]

doesnt help that before first clear, story nodes and stage nodes look exactly the same

[flat sapphire]

but now they complain it's too complicated

[glass monolith]

What is lore special condition for IS3 ending 3?

[flat sapphire]

isn't it just the relics?

[glass monolith]

I mean like there are lore tabs and you unlock 1 at getting ending, 2 at getting ending 3 times, and 1 special condition

Ending 1 - don't disable boss hover
Ending 2 - don't let boss kill all rubbles

[storm current]

not retreating

[flat sapphire]

oh that

[storm current]

when isharmla is on the field, no one must die or retreat iirc

but you can nuke and afk the rest of the stage

[glass monolith]

Well sounds easy (Unaware)

[storm current]

its easy at d0

[glass monolith]

(Yeet Texas into window)

[cunning river]

I finished the stage

That sucked

[tidal sedge]

La pluma is good right, tested her out and she's seems pretty good

[opal kiln]

yea she's decent

[glass monolith]

Dog shreder

[tidal sedge]

I like the fact she can hit every enemy in range, very funky and may be useful for small mobs that ops don't like

[dapper meadow]

i enjoyed the hell out of her on Anni 13 and 9. Shes def gets overshadowed by 6star ops, but yeah shes good

[glass monolith]

* - if you can't kill La Pluma, you are dog

[opal kiln]

no way

6* > 5*

revolutionary

[glass monolith]

6* reaper is so OP it was removed from game

[turbid badge]

man i hate defender tickets

[opal kiln]

lapp alter 6* reaper

trust

[tidal sedge]

6 star reaper is like giving all the lane holders crack

[opal kiln]

after horn they're dead yea

[turbid badge]

I need to build blitz to utilize smh

[turbid badge]

lmao i only pick Gummy horn and liskarm

[glass monolith]

I already got baited by community making fake 6* reaper texas PVs after it was leaked than Texas alter is real. No more

[rough anvil]

vigil power crept blacknight

[tidal sedge]

Imagine they gave la pluma mod that hives them infinite heals

[scarlet ledge]

i pick horn,blem,nian,gum,spot or cardi

but ye

[tidal sedge]

All enemys hit equal yummy yummy

[turbid badge]

…

[tidal sedge]

Turns LA pluma meta, totally,

[turbid badge]

the reaper range is so good

[tidal sedge]

fr tho

Assists ops with that dps

Penance keeps hitting dogs? No problem

[glass monolith]

Picks La Pluma in IS3. Floor effect - 50 attack speed, -70% healing. Dies to seaborn lego

[turbid badge]

oh shit

ur right

that call of many

[tidal sedge]

I mean c'mon u had to give her hella aspd debuffs

[turbid badge]

that must hurt “enmity” operators

[tidal sedge]

Ye

[turbid badge]

my ptilo with 450 attack healed for 120 ffs

[tidal sedge]

ptilo is very good for burst heals right

[hardy fog]

is this for the 2nd ending?

[glass monolith]

Yes, if you manage to escort this suicidal potato to floor 5

[hardy fog]

which it died right before reaching the boss level

i got the drone marksman guys aiming at him

in like every stage

[glass monolith]

It is even funnier if you take relic -80% def to knight. BECAUSE IT AFFECTS HIM DURING ESCORT

Now you escort not 3000 hp 1000 def, but 3000 hp 200 def

[hardy fog]

tf that's literally horrendous and pure cbt

is this the hardest ending to get above every ending?

[turbid badge]

lmao erato with skin on s2 looks so cursed

[turbid badge]

ehh

its not that bad

if u protect

Texas alter can protect him pretty well

[hardy fog]

well

not with my run

[turbid badge]

(and by protect it means killing everything and everyone before it can lay a hand on the knight)

[hardy fog]

he got obliterated by those drone summons

[glass monolith]

There are few maps i would dodge if i do ending 2, especially The Nest and The Hunting Ground when you got -def relic

[storm current]

btw

[hardy fog]

knight 101

[storm current]

skalter can heal knight

or any regen effect like relic

[glass monolith]

knight 404

Also i think +50% operator hp relic make him 4500 hp too

And fuck this game but i am not touching ending 2 without +50% hp relic

[hardy fog]

same

[glass monolith]

I physically can't stall knight otherwise

He just slaps for like 4000 against frozen targets on d3

[turbid badge]

lil

[elder flume]

anyone got chalter s1 so i dont use is2?

[storm current]

knight has 5k atk on d15 btw

[glass monolith]

9k crits

If only there was some way to cheese high incoming damage

(Physical DR stacking)

[ebon oxide]

is exu buff squad a good strategy to beat is3 diff 10+

as in the boss stage

bank of gaul check -> exu / warfarin / skalter s3

[rough anvil]

this stage by itself made me consider raising roberta

[glass monolith]

My original plan was roberta. then i realized i can just DR stack

[dapper meadow]

Wait Roberta shield works for that? I wanted to like her, but she couldnt block Artillery in ep9 or w/e, so i got disapointed

[elder flume]

prob didnt time shield correctly

[glass monolith]

Shield block 1 (2 on e2) instances of damage

Chapter 10 cannon selects highest block, your highest block probably having 18+ with 9 slimes, time it between deploy delay, 9 slimes attacks and cannon hit is frame perfect shit if even viable

[elder flume]

More lumening
He can use ammo when skill is on cooldown and it subtracts 1 ammo when skill used again

same as tuye

i dont get the lumen atk tho

it permanently stays even if i manual deactivate skill

manually deactivating before infinite duration goes off will lower atk instead

[turbid badge]

huh

im pretty sure her shield blocks uhh

Artillery

jsut doesnt work for ranged ops

[dapper meadow]

the 3k pure damage one?

[turbid badge]

yea

[storm current]

ok tulip hit air

quite nice

[dapper meadow]

dang ok. I tried many times when ep first released. I guess i never got it frame perfect. Tried on both Mud and Hoshi

[turbid badge]

just get e2 robert

and 2 shuelds

better gaming

[random widget]

Hi Teta

[gleaming lodge]

Infinite skills are excessively inconsistent...

[tepid mica]

Who should I bring in to the squad to beat H11-2 (including Ptiloptis and or Warfarin

And how do I beat H11-2

[glass monolith]

For H11-2 i know 2 options. Beat the shit out of boss. Stall the shit out of boss

If you have Moduled Gladiia you can use Skadi to stall shit out of boss with AH gaming, for extra security have Stainless S3 device give extra 20%/36% damage reductions, and boss is not leaving today

[velvet stratus]

Does the pillar falling in mandragora fight random?

[glass monolith]

In phase 2 of mandragora, she will try to flip closest pillar which hits most operators possible every like 15 seconds or so

[velvet stratus]

Ahhh alright

So I just bait operators on some pillars or just use it on her instead

[glass monolith]

there is warning on tiles which she will flip pillar at, and you can still flip pillar yourself first

[velvet stratus]

No wonder they kept collapsing on myrtle I thought it just happened randomly

[glass monolith]

Just don't have operators on path of pillars and flip them on her

[velvet stratus]

I’ll keep that in mind

Thanks a lot

Have a wonderful day

[tepid mica]

Where should I put stainless punching bags?

[glass monolith]

They should face away from tile to which you want to give damage reduction, you can read that in their talent tab after deploying

[elder flume]

they are surprisingly consistent
gets skill > manually deactivate > stats loss
gets skill > force deactivate after 60 minutes > use remaining ammo > stats loss
gets skill > force deactivate after 60 minutes > gets skill again > use remaining ammo > permanent stats > in the case of tuye they can have the added stats and heal during cooldown without restriction

maybe its a thing for ammo type

testing ash rn

ig theres no way to tell how ash works when force deactivate huh

[glass monolith]

Now main question: How any of that help in PO0?

[sly drift]

Thought on having 2 defenders. Do you all prefer to have 3 guard 1 defender or 2 defenders 2 guard in general content?

[storm current]

typically 2 defender is good

3 blocker is safe

aoe guard with 3 block can replace that role as well

[crystal meteor]

i have no defenders usually

except ling

that explains it

[elder flume]

when your ash gets stunned on the 24th frame she will be in infinite duration and you have to wait an hour to get her skill back

[sly drift]

Agree but meta nowadays is like (Nuker, Nuker, Nuker)
Instead of filling role

[crystal meteor]

I will have a defender consistently after cement release though, the reason im using ling is cuz i have 5 slots taken by the ops i like

[white trout]

Mud then galter is enough for me

[glass monolith]

When instead flashbang you pulled memory erasing device from MiB

[sly drift]

Galter block more than defender

[glass monolith]

Nian blocks more than there are enemies on that lane

[white trout]

Just galter things

The only guard i use is ntrk and galter

[crystal meteor]

no mlynar?

[white trout]

Didnt even bother getting himi

[glass monolith]

My guard is Kazemaru

[white trout]

I dont want another surtr/chalter brain fart

[storm current]

my guard is weedy
my vanguard is gladiia
my defender is spectral
my sniper is dorothy
my caster is texalt

[white trout]

Thats why ididnt roll for him also texalt and kirin yato and mumu banners

[crystal meteor]

dorothy is a global laneholder 💪

[elder flume]

specsweep as usual

[sly drift]

Actually I'm trying to build squad that can literally win every single stage include high risk without ever changing op. I wonder how the team is

[storm current]

high risk usually include class ban and squad -slot