strategy

[stone iron]

Guys , how did you clear the carwash mission for danbrown Leopardi side mission , I can't seem to fill up the bar full to summon the elite enemy ? Enlighten me sorry , newbie here

[turbid badge]

wtf it sound like taze

[turbid badge]

Um let the enemies kill civilians

and the bar fills up

[latent anvil]

Ya, civilian can die in this event, unlike other events

[vernal lion]

[stone iron]

The archers won't hit the 3 civilians , I don't get it

[vernal lion]

I can stall for 3 hours

[turbid badge]

Why?

[stone iron]

No idea, I have failing to summon the elite unit several times for the mission

My bad , I don't have the grasp of this game sorry

[turbid badge]

which map is it

[latent anvil]

Nah ur fine, maybe try stalling? Or do the opposite and spawncamp? Just some ideas

[gleaming lodge]

Are they not in range ?

[stone iron]

I've tried spawn camp and stalling but no good , i can't fill up the bar , if only they kill the 3 civilians but idk why they don't , I'm so confused

[turbid badge]

this one?

[stone iron]

Hold on , I'll b back with screenshot

[latent anvil]

Oh 'none of my business' is that wraith thing ya? Not the summon from the bar

[turbid badge]

oh im probably at his last mission than

[vernal lion]

carwash is the one with hoodie caster

the 1 lane that got banned

[turbid badge]

ah i cant replay it

[latent anvil]

Did you find out what the condition to clear is?

[vernal lion]

this one

[turbid badge]

oh

[latent anvil]

Well the 'none of my business' goes on unlockable lane

So maybe it just walks through and they are mistaking the mission

[turbid badge]

is-5

[vernal lion]

oh I missed to remember it right

[latent anvil]

'no more than one time'

[stone iron]

How do you guys clear it ?

[turbid badge]

that means dont activate it?

[vernal lion]

just don't let any of your civi die

[turbid badge]

i think i had spalter spawncamp the archers

[latent anvil]

Kill everything as fast as possible

That's how you clear

That's pretty much how you clear all those side quests btw, worked for me at least

[vague rock]

This squad too underinvested to clear IS - 8 or it's just skill issue?

[turbid badge]

nah u have texas

ur fine

[latent anvil]

If you push ur e2s to lvl20 it becomes easier

Silverash once, retreat and redeploy for later

[dim yoke]

S3 would be better for cc

[latent anvil]

Also 3 vg 3 def kinda weird, bring more dmg

It looks like you'll just get overwhelmed by enemies

Goal is to kill them, not hoard them

[stone iron]

Thanks for the info

[vague rock]

Yea I tried to hold them at the choke then melt them down with kot

[vernal lion]

dude wtf with your eyes

anyway, old bosses from IS1 finally come back

[gleaming lodge]

You are being observed

[cosmic dagger]

Gravestone being easiest wonderland boss is such a surreal experience

I remember getting absolutely clapped by him in is1

But now I'm happy to see him as boss

While weird Faust and weird frostnova instills immense fear in me

[turbid badge]

Sureela

[foggy fox]

i need help to score 300 on pinch-out @gleaming furnace @cosmic dagger

i literally

cant

[gleaming furnace]

same

[foggy fox]

is 540 even possible

[glass monolith]

Just Texas bro

[foggy fox]

wtf is this event

I HATE DOROTHY'S VISIONS

[glass monolith]

Oh you doing perma? Yea you fucked

[gleaming furnace]

i can't even clear the first one, so im raising some operator for now

[vernal lion]

finally, dev can cuck player

[foggy fox]

215/1200

540 for medal

wtf

[glass monolith]

I will shoperator Ceobe PURELY as preparation for PO0

[gleaming furnace]

but just pick defensive buff, make enemies durable, i think you can reach around 480ish. Don't pick -2 hp, leak dorothy

[cosmic dagger]

540 is gonna get easier when the other two dailies add easier tags

But yes what unsin wrotr

Stack durability to the infinite while taking none of the offensive tags

[foggy fox]

HG so bad at designing event wtf

dorothy's vision should be gone forever

[cosmic dagger]

Well, they got around liskarm blacknight

[foggy fox]

for the fcking sake

[cosmic dagger]

You literally cannot win in time if you blacknight

[glass monolith]

I'm still thinking 11500% hp robots was miscalculation

[foggy fox]

there is time limit?

[cosmic dagger]

Yeah

2 weeks

[foggy fox]

isnt it 1600%

[gleaming furnace]

medal is permanent i think, so if we can't reach 600 point this time, we can try it next time.

[cosmic dagger]

[glass monolith]

Called "This shit sleep immune"

[cosmic dagger]

Even aside from sleep immune

[foggy fox]

ye it is immune to almost any CC iirc

[glass monolith]

That's the fun part, they fucked up multiplications a little

[foggy fox]

it does not immune to frozen

[cosmic dagger]

Can't go with low damage perma stall if low damage comp can't deal 5 million damage

Dies from cringe

[foggy fox]

pain

alr

[glass monolith]

Use Ceobe with module stage 3 to kill them in 2 hours

[foggy fox]

almost 4m hp 5k def def normal

[glass monolith]

Missed "3 of them"

[foggy fox]

ah yes u have to take down 12m hp

[glass monolith]

11.25 but yes

[latent anvil]

percent dmg ops where

[foggy fox]

so fkcinghorrrible stage designfr

i cant even place vanguard

they 2shot eveyr hsit

i think i will get back to raising ops

this is beyond contigency contract fr

[latent anvil]

are the rewards good

[gleaming furnace]

dont pick contract that can increase enemies attack.

[foggy fox]

fluid how many had u cleared

[gleaming furnace]

it give friston, and some currency, in shop you can buy some material

none i just search some guide so i know the best approcah but vg knight can't deal enough dmg.

[foggy fox]

hmm the defend made it really hard to shred through them ngl

[gleaming furnace]

I'm raising ceobe, ifrit and pozemka for now, hopefully enough.

[foggy fox]

pozemka?

[elder flume]

early missile makes u bring canta and ines together

the gamest of designs

[gleaming furnace]

well she is close to e2, so may aswell raise her.

[foggy fox]

raise silence alter to proc them on myrtle early game

oops my canta still e0 lv1

[elder flume]

explosion bug is weirdge

[foggy fox]

@gleaming furnace should i even consider buying the mats in PO shop

[glass monolith]

I did my e2 cant just before IS3... Fuck I feel like I have no useable vanguard's outside her in there

[vernal lion]

joke on you, I can enjoy the game for 12 hours

[foggy fox]

pinch-out mechanic design is beyond CC or even anything in the game

[foggy fox]

[gleaming furnace]

Should be like cc seasonal shop. buy valuable one idk which one is good though

[foggy fox]

i wonder if they will add anything tho

[vernal lion]

I think there's like afk strat ?

[foggy fox]

like tokens

[vernal lion]

Kyo was playing LOL when stalling 3 mechas

[glass monolith]

You forgot about touch trees event with 500,000 hp bosses who actually fight

[foggy fox]

500k hp arent anything to 4m

[glass monolith]

Still, CEOBE FUEL

[foggy fox]

actually whats with ceobe

i dont quite read her kits

whats good

[glass monolith]

Extra arts damage based on enemy def

[latent anvil]

not based on hp, 🚮

[foggy fox]

5000 def

[glass monolith]

Which literally works only on those robots and patriot

[foggy fox]

4m hp x 3

gonna take ages

also 90 res

[glass monolith]

It is 80 res so on x2 speed it is 2 hours

Reno D said he did it in 50 minutes using Ifrit and activating Ceobe's Tadadadada manually

[foggy fox]

bruh

but like

thats 1200

stats

he did 1200?

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRE1AS0GoXs

[glass monolith]

Ew, surturing

[foggy fox]

i dont think

i can do 540 or 600

so brutal

imma just let this event slude away

slide

atleast this make me have time to raise my ops

[glass monolith]

By time this event come to EN i will be 2 years player with enough bullshit to brute it

[foggy fox]

same

unlike CN, i have Ling and skalter in EN

also with NG and Saria

which is enough

ye also texas alter also

[near cypress]

wait wait wait
guys I just had a thought: is the best healer for penance not... Aak?
she has high enough defense that Aak shooting her shouldnt do much damage, and her S3, which is how she regains HP, is defensive charge
so by shooting her, he charges her S3 and lets her get off her shield faster and acts as a "healer"

[surreal star]

…

just use skalter

[near cypress]

but skalter can only heal her when her shields are down and her HP is "low"

aak can easily charge her up to like 10k hp

[rough anvil]

Sounds like something you should test

[north jungle]

What do these options from SSS boss do?

[rough anvil]

Click on detail and it tells you

[north jungle]

Ooo

[rough anvil]

iirc one buffs boss stats and one summons additional mobs

I don't remember the third

[north jungle]

Is best strategy to try to kill the boss asap then?

[rough anvil]

I selected the additional mob one every time and just killed them

[turbid badge]

ew skalter on penance

[rough anvil]

I don't think SSS favors boss nuking strategies very well due to how the upgrade system works

So I just let the boss reach my defender and just stalled there

[north jungle]

I see, that's what i usually do. It does say the additional mobs get stronger each time you choose it though

[turbid badge]

warfing penance is so smart real

[near cypress]

doesnt work nearly as well as with mudrock 😦

[rough anvil]

I didn't have an issue handling them, if you have a medic stack, the damage reduction from medics is % anyways so the stronger the mobs get, the stronger the damage reduction gets

But you can also switch up the options, like select mob a few times then select boss stats once or twice if your ops can't kill the mobs

[hallow ether]

How does the random dice roll in IS3 work? Which number indicates bad things?

[turbid badge]

its up to ur light

you can uhh check theu is3 channel pins

[hallow ether]

I know the lower my light is, the more chance I will get Rejection

but what does the numbers indicate

[hallow ether]

cant find it

[turbid badge]

https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Mizuki_%26_Caerula_Arbor/Light

[near cypress]

For those maniacs that actually use Aak S2, how exactly does that skill work? Lets say you are at 2000/2000 HP when he shoots you to increase your max HP< are you now at 2000/3600 or 3600/3600 until the skill ends?

[hallow ether]

Appreciated

[near cypress]

im wondering if that could also be used to "heal" penance beyond charging her shield

[misty egret]

Perfumer with penance ?

[turbid badge]

if its penance it should just attack her shield no?

barrier*

yea

[near cypress]

but thats fine, it still charges her skill

[turbid badge]

yea

its more nice since it increases max hp and that s3 grants barrier based on that

[near cypress]

and lets say penance has like 3000/4500 "actual" HP, im wondering if the max HP boost would bump her up to over 4500 and she can kep the heal when it ends

[glass monolith]

Initiating BONKING procedure

[surreal star]

i think her hp% remains the same after it ends

so her hp gets reduced

[near cypress]

yeah but S3 can also do that

[near cypress]

that would be a shame

might as well just use S3 if thats the case

although... actually no S2 wold still be cracked because penance S3 is based off her max HP, even if its only temporaily buffed by the skill

so the shield boost from S2 would be a lot larger

[turbid badge]

yea thats what im saying

[surreal star]

imo aak s3 is better

since if penance is dying

[turbid badge]

but s3 more dmg

[surreal star]

you might as well kill the enemy faster

[near cypress]

this synergy seems very fun, my aak is at e0 level 1 but im gonna raise him specifically to try out this strat

[glass monolith]

Uh.... Adding 50% ATK to 400% ATK is not as efficient

[near cypress]

perhaps. I think thre are probably uses for both

[near cypress]

its more about the attack speed

I would guess its one of the better ways to boost her damage

[surreal star]

if penance is dying to ranged enemies probably aak s2

aak s3 versus melee enemies

[turbid badge]

uea

[near cypress]

I also wonder, if you go over her normal 300% hp barrier max using the aak s2 skill boost, do you keep the barrier over her normal max when the skill ends?

this requires teting

[turbid badge]

can u even go over

i think itll just stop at the limit

[near cypress]

im not sure

my aak is still e0 level 1 but im gonna get him to E1 to test the S2 synergies

[turbid badge]

bring nian so her max hp go even more stonks

[glass monolith]

I don't have aak and I don't have aak activators, so L

[turbid badge]

tuye s1

[near cypress]

blemishine also works really well with penance it would seem. She can heal and help penance charge her S3 faster for more shields

[tidal sedge]

So there's no saving an Operator who gets affected like this?

[turbid badge]

its annoying but thats nice for april

since her skill is passive

[tidal sedge]

But her ATK gets reduced by 50% straight

[turbid badge]

To remove it u have to get tulip encounter

and pick Secret formula

thats the only way i know

[tidal sedge]

So there's something that can be done about it

[near cypress]

so im testing the aak synergy now

this is with aak s2 boosting her shields. Im pretty sure this is way over her standard cap, no?

I wish there was a way to see the actual shield value

This is the largest im able to get her shield, which is after 2 procs. It seems she does get to keep the extra shield from the temporary cap gain of aak S2 when the skill ends

[turbid badge]

i cant get any higher

maybe yea

[near cypress]

this synergy seems really good...

[cursive wedge]

does shield increase with hp

[turbid badge]

Duh

ye

[cursive wedge]

scale off of

[turbid badge]

[cursive wedge]

ok which unit boosts max hp

[turbid badge]

Nian Exu

Aak

[cursive wedge]

bring nian

[near cypress]

yes, and she gets to go over her normal 300% HP cap using the temporary HP from Aak S2

[turbid badge]

cant think of any others

[near cypress]

which is what I was testing

[turbid badge]

does ur penance have any pots

[near cypress]

pot 3

this seems to be like, 500% of her HP bar more or less

clearly over the 300% normal cap

[cursive wedge]

[near cypress]

this was only SL7 as well, with a S2M3 aak its gonna be even bigger

[sweet marlin]

which 3* guard do you like the most for is2/3?

i guess midnight is the best one

[cosmic dagger]

Melantha for ling opener to deal with symbiosis

If non-discount squad then reserve melee

If discount squad not ling opener, mix between midnight and melantha

Popukar is garbage either way though

[sweet marlin]

why reserve melee?

[soft crystal]

he's speaking from the perspective of d4+

which adds 1 hope to 3 stars and above

except for reserve ops

[sweet marlin]

oh i see

[soft crystal]

you wont be able to recruit melantha/midnight if d4+

just go with melantha first

[near cypress]

I used some image measuring software to try and quantify that shield bar
The shield is about 460% the size of her actual HP bar
meaning that the shield is ~18500 hitpoints, and she has 22500 effective hitpoints
This is with no trust and no masteries on Penance or Aak at all. Penance is E260

I imagine you can push that effective HP to around ~26000 or so just using 2 Aak skils procs with more levels/trust/masteries

[glass monolith]

Damn i remember when it was only announced on CN, we didn't knew about how shield over hp bar works and were like "Okay, so how many shield is that?"

[near cypress]

this is effectively immortal...

[glass monolith]

Now let's drop chapter 9 pillar on her to check

[cosmic dagger]

None of the 3* guards are worth 1 hope unfortunately

Very sad

I also think the only 3* worth one hope is cardigan my beloved

[turbid badge]

she gets the hefty shield whenever aaks skill ends for me like it just randomly appears lmao

[near cypress]

thats because her acual HP bar is getting smaller so the shield looks bigger in comparison

[turbid badge]

yea

[near cypress]

but the shield isnt actually growing when the skill ends

[turbid badge]

its nice

[near cypress]

I wonder with a maxed penance and aak masteries, more levels, and more trust what the max HP she can get is

[turbid badge]

I couldnt see clearly on yours cuz sarias fatbody was blocking penance hp bar

[near cypress]

I think probably 28-30k

[turbid badge]

[near cypress]

I took a better SS here

[scarlet ledge]

@turbid badge

[sweet marlin]

in is3 whats the light for?

[cosmic dagger]

Deciding the outcome of the dice roll at the start of each floor

[glass monolith]

It changes ranged of "good" and "bad" outcomes, i heard #is-station has pin with complex answer

[latent anvil]

When do we get percent hp dmg ops

So that 3m hp enemy easy to burn

[glass monolith]

They will get scaling of Aciddrop so don't get hopes up

[latent anvil]

Even .5% hp of 3m is 15k

[glass monolith]

Ceobe does 3k by existing

[latent anvil]

But .5% of 10k hp enemy is only 50

[glass monolith]

Oh right they will make that damage blockable

by defenses

[latent anvil]

Sounds useless in general content

[scarlet ledge]

i can sleep easy now

and do daily fine

[glass monolith]

FUCK I SANITY CAPPED

[scarlet ledge]

oof

i sanitg capped too

cause of 2 hrs stall

💀

[glass monolith]

IS2 accident all over again

[cursive wedge]

best start for is3?

[latent anvil]

how to not sanity cap when manage 4 account

[scarlet ledge]

n0?

just go guard,sniper or vgs

[cursive wedge]

kk

[scarlet ledge]

n0 dont matter anyway

[turbid badge]

honestly aak giving her penny 15 sp is already great

[cursive wedge]

what is n0

[latent anvil]

ye n1 is where it becomes impossible

[scarlet ledge]

difficulty 0

[cursive wedge]

ahhhh

[scarlet ledge]

or ascension 0

but ye

[cursive wedge]

best starting squad?

for easy clears

[glass monolith]

Best starting squad is abuse OPrators

[cosmic dagger]

People oriented is best

Then opening with either gavial alter or ling is best

Can also consider horn opener

[scarlet ledge]

hello kerm

finally im out of hell on pinch out

[latent anvil]

gav doesnt feel like easy carry tho

in low difficulty feel like other option better

[cursive wedge]

galter skill?

[sweet marlin]

i've tried gavial and horn, so far didn't like them that much. i'm still learning the stages tho

[cosmic dagger]

Gavial takes s2 for almost every stage

[cursive wedge]

[cosmic dagger]

Except course correction and the floor 6 ch9 stage

[latent anvil]

can you leak end2 boss

or any boss for that matter

[frigid kite]

30 hp+, from what i've seen with Survival (or survivor i dont remember rn), the thing that exchanges your actual hp for shields

[cursive wedge]

omg i did one stage

[glass monolith]

Good. There is 20 more

[soft crystal]

man

gopnik killed the knight

this is an annoying ending to get

[latent anvil]

ya

the -def is not helping either

[turbid badge]

Ending 2?

[latent anvil]

mhm

[turbid badge]

how get

[cosmic dagger]

Time to draft heidi for s1

[latent anvil]

you hire the knight to fight for you but if it dies on ur side you dont get the ending and it goes back to ending1

[turbid badge]

does he spawn randomly

on map

Or

[latent anvil]

usually somewhere near blue box

Also what is this

[cosmic dagger]

Did you know the fireballs technically count as leaks

[cursive wedge]

[latent anvil]

wat

[cosmic dagger]

In my year-in-review report, this stage was said to be the stage where I leaked the most

[latent anvil]

am i gonna lose life point or no

[cosmic dagger]

Despite me getting it like at most 10 times totsl

You don't lose it

[latent anvil]

oh

[cosmic dagger]

But system thinks you actually lesked

[latent anvil]

i see i see

[cosmic dagger]

I must have leaked significantly more on out of control

But they think I leaked there the most

Funny stuff

[cursive wedge]

is3 does not look fun

[cosmic dagger]

There's a bit of a skill floor

But once you know what you're doing its a lot of fun

[real ginkgo]

how do i get to the second boss of is3?

[cursive wedge]

rng floor

[real ginkgo]

is3 is way more fun than is2 imo

[cursive wedge]

i’ve only done one floor yet

in is3

it might be better

[real ginkgo]

am on d3 rn

[cursive wedge]

who knows

[real ginkgo]

texalter is a carry XD

[cosmic dagger]

On the knight encounter, either use 2 hope (don't do this) or 1 die (do this) to get him to fight with you

Then protect him until end of floor 4

He will then be the boss on floor 5

[latent anvil]

does the die guarantee him

[real ginkgo]

oh okay, thx

[real ginkgo]

if you role high enough yes

[cosmic dagger]

2 and above is fine

[elder flume]

Does that mean blood blades can be my most leaked document

[cosmic dagger]

So die is always the superior choice

[cosmic dagger]

That one was for IS only

[latent anvil]

wait the emergency enraged thrower map

is this even possible

[elder flume]

Sadge

[cosmic dagger]

low difficulty? definitely

[latent anvil]

dont even wanna know how many i leaked 💀

[turbid badge]

well u can leak more than 3

And in ialot of fireballs

[cursive mango]

is the EX levels released yet?

[blissful wren]

What would be a good way to determine if I should get Skadi Alter or Nearl Alter?

[latent anvil]

should be 1 week after event start so no

[latent anvil]

for actual harder content, nearl better. for an op that you can bring to every stage and put down and forget about while having good value, skalter. or simply just pick whoever you simp more

nearl is like having another surtr/texas to drop on the enemy and deal ton of dmg

[thin nova]

Granted longer CD

As for skadi

Best buffer in the game and pairs well with ops that cannot be healed

Both are really solid options

The thing is however

As @latent anvil said

"it's like having another surtr/texas"

Thats good, while also bad.

It means she is competing alot with those two ops in general content

If we are strictly talking about which one you'd use more: skalter

Not many that can do the job that skalter does

@blissful wren

[thin nova]

Out of control is such a painful stage

[cosmic dagger]

Yeah

[glass monolith]

Got guard voucher, got Surtr temporary. Got fucked by dog hyperinflation

[rose seal]

use friend supports to test both for your teams, I have both and use ntr way more

[glass monolith]

Who said floor 3 60 dogs is good map design

[rose seal]

I specifically use her s2 to break deployment limit

[foggy grove]

Okay switch dogs with bone thrower

[elder flume]

Is3 is weird

Most of the maps makes me want to have a shifter

[foggy grove]

I saw more hole

[glass monolith]

Half of maps make me want to die.
Other half DO it

[foggy grove]

Compared to is2

[latent anvil]

Which one that

Oh its the throwers

[soft crystal]

pozy just ignores freeze with the turret

[latent anvil]

Give now where's my pozy

Schwarz can replace right?

[soft crystal]

[cosmic dagger]

Just bring both

[soft crystal]

now to d4

[cosmic dagger]

People-oriented coming in clutch

[soft crystal]

clear without stunning?

or freeze ig

[glass monolith]

Or even root (throws Gladiia out)

[soft crystal]

||so cool seeing the last knight on a seahorse||

too bad pozy just deleted p2 immediately

[cursive mango]

is the next banner worth pulling on, considering I'll have enough for Yato, when that time comes?

[glass monolith]

Are we talking Ceobe or ReAl banner?

[blissful wren]

Will la pluma ever be in shop?

[opal kiln]

eventually yes

[teal stirrup]

afternoon fellas, what's the general strat for beating the final boss of IS?

currently my people get their ass eaten every time they take a hit in phase 2

[cosmic dagger]

Horn bottom middle facing up

Disable hover of boss

[soft crystal]

bring sexas and horn ezpz

[cosmic dagger]

Horn does horn things

[glass monolith]

Dude chill he asks about Lapp alter, not flying spagetti

I think

[soft crystal]

oh

lmao

[teal stirrup]

I meant il siracuso, sorry

[cosmic dagger]

Oh lmfao

[glass monolith]

But the "Just Horn it" part still apply to both bosses techically

I personally used Just Fia it. Boss takes more damage phase 2 and 1000 def in 2023 moment, didn't even shamare

[green frost]

This is a bit of a random question, but would it be possible to one-tile IS-8?

I imagine it'd probably have to be done at the top of the middle row using two deadeye snipers to clear out the starting units on the left and the right

[teal stirrup]

my account's still semi new lol, so I'mma have to borrow the mortal shells

[glass monolith]

Doubt it, look ahead for someone prove my skill issue

[real ginkgo]

any idea how to defeat the last knight of kazimier? in is3?

[outer sail]

Wait wait wait... wait... wait... Texalter's S3 can HIT AIR?! WTF?!

[real ginkgo]

yea?

[outer sail]

Just when I thought she couldn't be any more busted

Also continues to pulse if she's frozen or whatever... Haha

[cursive mango]

Ceobe I think

the one that comes after this yellow cert one

[frigid kite]

Better save for Reed alter

[turbid badge]

i cant

im broke!

[cursive mango]

which one is Reed Alt?

that a different banner to Yato Alt?

[glass monolith]

I personally will buy shop Ceobe, mostly for collection and one stupid strategy which super specific cases when she can be applied cough PO0 cough . But i have good amount of gold certs, not short on pulls storage (Got extra lucky on past 2 banners)

[dim oar]

She's solo banner yea

[glass monolith]

Before Yato Alt we will have Reed alter, CNY limited banner in summer (god i love EN ), Quibai and depends on schedule screwing we might get Ines as well

[cursive mango]

flippin heck

[glass monolith]

Also Gnosis solo rate up rerun on BtI rerun i think

[cursive mango]

I have no idea who to pull for in that case

[glass monolith]

Can't give much tip on that

[frigid kite]

I'd pull either for Reed alter or Ines + Assured Yato alter

[glass monolith]

Reed alter is cool
Gnosis is Suzu which freezes instead slows (and some enemies plain immune to freeze)
CNY has cooler Mountain as limited and Lin for collection of waifus
Quibai is HG cooking Thorns and Frostleaf in same pot
Ines is Cantabile on mega steroids

[outer sail]

I want Reed alter purely for the interactions with Texalter and Surtr 😉

[cursive mango]

mmm

would you say 10 pulls for each of those banners is a thing, or just not pull at all unless more than 10

[glass monolith]

[outer sail]

Depends on too many account and doctor specific and subjective variables.

[cursive mango]

or is it more to do with "how many pulls can I spare and still have enough to meet yatoalt"

realistically I need a good defender + supporter

[glass monolith]

Have 100 pulls saved as no touch reserves

[outer sail]

I'd say supporters are one of the least needed archetypes. Defenders... Are often not necessary, but when they are, it's usually pretty tough without ;P

[cursive mango]

[outer sail]

But defenders are kind of niche, if you have good alternatives (like Gavalter or whatever)

[cursive mango]

negative, this was my 2nd ever event

[glass monolith]

"Good supporter"
Wait, it is all Ling

[outer sail]

Ling is a supporter like Kal'tsit is a medic though

[cursive mango]

my best supporter rn is Istania, and well, she isnt the best haha

[buoyant tapir]

Hey guys! can someone help me make a good team to beat is-7?

[cursive mango]

sure I can help a little

[outer sail]

For cases where you need a slower, Istinia does great, tbqh.

In fact, for most cases where you need a slower, even Orchid is fine. Very rarely do you need like... Suzuran or something.

[buoyant tapir]

Thanks! These are my operators

I'm having trouble around the end of stage

[cursive mango]

whats your current lineup like?

that you try to take in

[outer sail]

And what support are you taking?

[buoyant tapir]

I'm using this on this level

[cursive mango]

you want to use lappland too, instead of popukar

and most likely lava

instead of amiya

[buoyant tapir]

Who should I swap for Lappland?

Ah ok

[cursive mango]

basically theres a low ground tile that perfect for lappland, at least I found it that way

[glass monolith]

IS-7? Let me cook a minute

[next cradle]

Struggling with Lungmen Downtown, up to 395/400…

[turbid badge]

u can do it

just burst at the end

[proud drift]

huh

was kaltsit's S3 activation

always a heal autoattack reset?

I know it'd reset mont3r's autoattack

but I don't remember kaltsit's healing shot being reset as well

[glass monolith]

i... have no fucking idea how to beat IS-7 on low rarity

My plan to spawn camp blue box is shit

[turbid badge]

is-7

[outer sail]

I can't even pretend to help with a low rarity strat. Even my low rarity stuff is more invested than that, so it might not transfer...

Especially since you don't have an E2 yet so you can't get an E2 support.

[glass monolith]

I rarity abused entire event so i ignored blood debt completely. IS-7 with fucking murder you with blood debt if you trigger it while there is hyper stack of archers on top lane

[outer sail]

I bet if you can push for an E2 and borrow a Ling, Ling could solo it ;P

I'd have to double check, but I'm relatively sure she could solo it. It seems like the perfect Ling solo setup.

[azure forge]

In my memory, 3* team works except IS-10

[outer sail]

Proper 3* team is different from a bunch of level 20 3 stars though...

[glass monolith]

Is-7 should be easy if you don't F up with blood debt. I F up with blood debt hard

damn those 3 civilians only freeze debt build up, don't decay it

[sonic willow]

my is-8 farm is my main team with vigil slapped on can't be bothered to make a trust farm

[glass monolith]

my is-8 is 4.5 operators (Luna is part of trust farm anyway )

[outer sail]

Just confirmed. Ling can totally solo IS-7 😉

Not even hard

[cursive mango]

IS-7 was blood debt for me

lemme find what I used, it was similar to whats above

have to wait 1 minute tho

sanity

[outer sail]

My Ling even only has stage 1 module, so...

[glass monolith]

Okay i think i have plan, i need to kill first group of 4 archers in range of Capo in order to trigger debt so it run out before next group of 4 archers arrive otherwise you get fucked

[outer sail]

That's A LOT more power than Nightwing is swinging with...

[cursive mango]

true

[outer sail]

I think he should push a high value 4 star to E2 asap and just borrow a god Ling 😉 But... That's just me.

[cursive mango]

take out the ifrit and its the same almost is it not?

[sonic willow]

?

their exu is already e1 max

[outer sail]

No,s he's E1 max. If he has the mats to E2 her, fine, but he needs an E2.

[sonic willow]

oop typo

[outer sail]

E2 on 6 stars is brutal though, especially for an account that young.

[sonic willow]

event shop is selling exu mats

[azure forge]

idk if this will help

[outer sail]

Well, that's fair 🙂 I didn't think to check that.

[azure forge]

find a snapshot from my folder

[glass monolith]

I try, i get fucked up by 8 blood debt buffed archers, so no, that screenshot don't tell me shit

[cursive mango]

[azure forge]

[glass monolith]

Defeated Minus go farm IS-8

[cursive mango]

if you can borrow an ifrit

[wild quarry]

for those of you doing is3, has anyone come across the stage: 'joy' in a box?

because frankly, i have no clue how to beat it

[outer sail]

I have only done a handful of tries and haven't even made it to the end, and have not seen that stage I don't think.

I can almost sleep through IS2, but IS3 is clearly more brutal. Or I'm just used to maxed out meta progression. Or both ;P

I feel like every loss I learn something though, so... Eventually I'll get it sorted.

[wild quarry]

its a stage that features a whole bunch of lost treasures surrounded by those casters that remain idle until woken up

[glass monolith]

oh vampire girl stage of IS3?

Fun of that stage depends on number of mimics

[outer sail]

Oh yeah... I got wrecked on that one because I misplaced Thorns not realizing the pathing of the flag bearers who wake everything up. I think I was set up to beat that one, if I'd been a little more familiar with it.

[wild quarry]

wait is the enemy count the mimics?

[outer sail]

I'm not sure how you'd do that one without an FRD... But again, I've only done it once, so I dunno what the options are yet.

[glass monolith]

Mimics are like bear, murder you but 0 leak damage

[outer sail]

They're not quite as dangerous as bear...

[glass monolith]

(Flashbacks of Bear walking into stage while i stall rat king with physical damage only)

Have them spawn in middle of places where you need to aim your snipers etc and it turn into worst chest in game

Know this reverse S shaped floor 1 map? Now slap mimic on X mark and have fun staring in wall to not trigger it in croos fire

[open mica]

Guy, how to clear IS10 fast?
I already try spawn camping with red demon,green cat and yellow knight. Is there anyway faster?

[cursive wedge]

green cat who

[azure forge]

kal ... ?

[tidal sedge]

To cheese Manfred do I need to make him just kill himself or something

[cursive wedge]

yuh

with cannon

[tidal sedge]

So how I do that, do a weird thing with penance by feeding her a few slugs and letting her skill3 rampage?

[cursive wedge]

if u have hoshi u can use her to stall boss

[tidal sedge]

I do not

[solid dew]

just wondering, for SSS what are the recommended stacks for goldenglow S3?

[cursive wedge]

aspd?

so 5 snoper

[solid dew]

just aspd?

no casters?

[cursive wedge]

u could go 1 caster 4 sniper

[sonic willow]

3/4 sniperA then rest casterA/specB

[solid dew]

ty

i was just wondering why i kept losing with an equal amount (or one more) of both lol

[latent anvil]

I usually do two caster A

3 sniper

[cursive wedge]

sss is too much of a pain to do

[latent anvil]

at least do smaller text

[cursive wedge]

[solid dew]

i didnt really like it either until i found goldenglow sweeps the whole thing
and im only planning on doing the 3 perm ones

[fiery moth]

Gotta ask, are there some operators in particular that are good to use for the mizuki event?

I have no clue if I should focus on one big 6 star and then some three stars, or even distribute it with 4 stars

[gentle finch]

Texas, gavial alter and ling are good starts

well i run people oriented squad

[fiery moth]

What starter sets do you usually run from the beginning stuff? Ive done defender sniper and caster but then get screwed out of the game never giving me another ground unit or a medic

[gentle finch]

usually you just pick up 6* carries, i ignore other rarities besides kroos alter and myrtle

[gentle finch]

I run Texas start for the lower difficulties since she can kill floor one and two easily with support

Specialist+ Sniper + Vanguard

Texas + kroos + fang

[fiery moth]

Oh you mean Texas Alt, was about to ask who's the specialist in that comp lol

[gentle finch]

yeah m

mb

[fiery moth]

And I assume I dont need to have her unlocked to use her in this mode?

[gentle finch]

?

You mean if you don't have her?

You can borrow at the beginning yeah

[fiery moth]

Right yeah, sorry my brain is being mega dumb atm

[gentle finch]

you just need a friend with a built Texas

[fiery moth]

Ah well Ill have to check my list then in case someone changed a support unit to her

[gentle finch]

yeah

I have one too but I think my friends list is full

but either way gavialter is still very good start

[fiery moth]

Honestly I do hope this game actually gives me a damn medic voucher though, it's legit crazy how many runs Ive done between this event and the last one where it just, refuses to give a medic lol

[gentle finch]

lmao

[fiery moth]

Thankfully Ive got my own GAlter

[gentle finch]

main carries are Pozy, horn, mlynar, gavialter, ling, Texas alter

[fiery moth]

Thank god ive got pozy too lol

Pozy Horn and Gavalter Ive all got

[gentle finch]

cool

you just have to learn the maps and mechanics and you can reach pretty high difficulty

[real ginkgo]

is there anyway to counter the freeze mechanic from the last knight of kazimierz?

[frigid kite]

Lumen or just try to burst him

[real ginkgo]

like every attack i do

i get frozen

[frigid kite]

Yeah

[real ginkgo]

its driving me nuts

theres only so much i can do with texalter and surtr

[frigid kite]

Get the -80% item

[real ginkgo]

That he takes more dmg?

[glass monolith]

Goldenglow. Pozy turret + -80%. The end

[frigid kite]

Reduces his defense -80%

[flat sapphire]

yeh sure just get it

[real ginkgo]

i actually had itr

[flat sapphire]

[real ginkgo]

but didnt pick it

[azure forge]

[glass monolith]

not like -80% def help much when you try to Surtr... Flying target

IS3 design might be not most player friendly

hovering, flying, don't know how bad ending 3 yet. And let's not talk about Ending 4

[frigid kite]

Is he flying tho?

I think my Gavialter was able to hit him

[glass monolith]

oh he just unblockable

[frigid kite]

Yup

[glass monolith]

I was always thinking he flies

[frigid kite]

That would make his 2nd phase easier

[glass monolith]

Doesn't matter your ground is frozen

[frigid kite]

Stun him and done

[glass monolith]

Damn i don't want to over commit Texas alter for IS but that dog shit is crap and i have full self defense rights to abuse it back

Until i at least unlock all meta tree so i don't suck as much at start

[blissful wren]

How good is sora compared to Skadi alter?

[gentle finch]

mid asf

[sonic willow]

trash

[tidal sedge]

Is penance bad in stages with wither or necrosis

Cuz my penance is getting her ass beat in chap 11

[hollow forum]

if there's a stream of enemies that she can constantly kill she should live

but yeah it's pretty rough for her in those stages

[shut delta]

elysium vs myrtle? assuming both m3

[sly drift]

Isnt siracusano mechanic is basically prison mechanic but easier?

The famiglia assassin is too weak to solo carry. He shouldve deal aoe damage or target 5 allied or something

[tidal sedge]

It's like a mix of MB and ch 8 civilians ye

I think the cleaner is not supposed to be a monster statstick given how easily debt can accrue

But maybe EX stages will up the ante

[sly drift]

True

The idea is to summon solo carry once the blood debt bar fully red.

But the summon is weak

[tidal sedge]

oof wish I got got texalter, would love more dps

Elysium more overall dp, myrtle faster

[sly drift]

Kinda disappointed

[tidal sedge]

Main event stages are usually easy too.

Though not always of course

[sly drift]

I know.. but I think it could've been much harder than this

Compared to big event like Near Light or Sulvitera Navis

Siracusano kind of lack of mechanic

[tidal sedge]

Hmm.

Those events were rough for newer folks, and limited events do tend to draw new players

Maybe it's intentionally easier

[sly drift]

It's true tho..

I can see western are happy to play this event

[tidal sedge]

If I'm to complain about the mechanics, it's how when debt collection time occurs any remaining civilians usually get massacred

So it's a bit oddly snowball-like

[sly drift]

You mean the debt bloor bar should quickly reset after the one is full?

That way you can summon bunch of assassin in one wave. That's cool actually.

[tidal sedge]

Moreso it could be punishing for new or weak rosters who would be most incentized to play the mechanic

MB had this same problem

[sly drift]

Can you set your support to magallan S2.

[tidal sedge]

Sure

[sly drift]

I want to test it

[tidal sedge]

I didn't realize you actually sent a request

I would've kept to her s2, sorry about that

[sly drift]

Haha.. it's fine

[tidal sedge]

She's up now

[frigid kite]

I she gets at least 1 activation of S3, will probably be fine for a while

[turbid badge]

yea

Until the necrosis drains her sp

and she cant do shiet

[civic nest]

out of control is fuck 💀

was playing on d2 and still dead

wth

[polar steppe]

whats the use differance between bound, levitate and stun

[civic nest]

some is immune to one but not immune to the other

and enemy being bind can still attack iirc

is there any other difference again

[tidal sedge]

Bind: cannot move, can still attack or do other actions
Levitate: Cannot move or attack, become aerial for duration as well. Duration halved if weight 4+.
Stun: Cannot move or attack.

[polar steppe]

also now i must ask what does it mean when you say iirc

[civic nest]

if i remember correct

ly

[polar steppe]

oh

[civic nest]

oh yea forgot to mention the weight with levitate

[tidal sedge]

It's worth noting if you see any underlined text in a description you can tap it and you'll get a tool tip on what it means.

[civic nest]

true

[turbid badge]

why the enemy become leviatated u cant shift them

[storm current]

because they become "flight"

and flight immune to unbalance

[turbid badge]

i mean to say when

[storm current]

also known as shift

[turbid badge]

Lmao 🤣

[tidal sedge]

Although since the newer UI, there's no underlined text at operator status screen

That's kind of annoying

[turbid badge]

true

[gentle finch]

what's that

oh

[civic nest]

is3 map

[gentle finch]

oh

which one

[civic nest]

uh lemme find the kermit video

hm

cant seem to find it

but basically bone thrower and possesed soldier map

[storm current]

@gentle finch https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648597785444220941/1111339852412235896/Screenshot_2023-05-25-22-06-05-92_39a08d986496c6659356f005305ed773.jpg?width=1440&height=647

[civic nest]

ty handsome

[gentle finch]

oh

[storm current]

it will literally end your run

[civic nest]

my 9 lp did not survive even at d2

[gentle finch]

possessed stage

i abused fast redeploys on CN for that

[cosmic dagger]

https://youtu.be/udrVGwKtax0

the pozy showcase stage

[gentle finch]

but it gets bad at higher diff

[cosmic dagger]

emergency is auto loss though

[gentle finch]

lmao

[cosmic dagger]

this was normal and i still got clapped

[storm current]

fun

[civic nest]

best stage design

[cosmic dagger]

pozy taking care of two bonethrowers is so clutch for this stage

the other two go bottom so horn + rdps can take them

possessed leaders you have to kinda leak a few

[civic nest]

oh god i wish i got the ranged unit get camo

[cosmic dagger]

it just do be like that

[civic nest]

would be so much more breathable

[cosmic dagger]

ranged camo this stage is free win

[storm current]

maybe i should raise april

[civic nest]

nah talking abt the camo relic

seems crazy ngl

atleast for that stage

[cosmic dagger]

either way

this stage is mostly how pozy rose to her current level

its just so fucking cancer that drafting pozy to counter a specific floor 5 stage is actually worth it

[civic nest]

texas didnt carry 😔

[frigid kite]

[cosmic dagger]

she perma interrupts bonethrower

but not bonerthrowers out of her range

if only she was global stun 😔

[civic nest]

so true 😔

[storm current]

how do you counter the melee soldier

[cosmic dagger]

lots of crowd control

and leak

not much you can do about it

[storm current]

mizuki s2?

[cosmic dagger]

they even have checkpoints to prevent pusher shenanigans

interestingly

[civic nest]

they hit so fking hard

[cosmic dagger]

gavial alter s2 can itnerrupt them for a while

if you pull them out of their checkpoint before they reach the center, they will constantly run back

[storm current]

they have the red version

not the normal ones

very funny

[cosmic dagger]

eventually they will slip off but thats enough time to kill

i recall gavial needs >=34 aspd for this to be perma cc

[hollow forum]

from my experience they tend to die fairly easily, though the second you lose track and one of them sneaks by it's

[cosmic dagger]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Fe411j7Jj

the funny perma cc i was talking about

[gentle finch]

I hate the rat king stage

[civic nest]

true

[storm current]

has there any attempt on d15 emergency out of control leakless?

[cosmic dagger]

of course

[storm current]

lol

relic RNG?

[cosmic dagger]

the link i sent is d15 emergency leakeless

[civic nest]

extremem luck?

[cosmic dagger]

not really

[civic nest]

oh

[cosmic dagger]

the relics werent too good

team was pretty good though

nobody just drafts mod3 nian out of nowhere

they clearly prepped for this map

[civic nest]

and ofc its a pot 6 every op team

[cosmic dagger]

you can learn what they do though

the horn and pozy placements are evergreen regardless of pot

right side is more up to your creativity

[civic nest]

damn

i tried to do pozy one tiles more than them

[cosmic dagger]

she dies if you put her to the right

that tile is safe

common typewriter W

[storm current]

me when schwarz coper

[gentle finch]

lmao

[civic nest]

actually can kill 1 bonethrower in a single cycle

wth

big w

[cosmic dagger]

pozy soloing both bonethrowers is why this stage is her showcase

shows the flexibility of her typewriter very well

[civic nest]

ah yes and the normal mobs also hitting super hard

is this normal d15 stuff

[storm current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1109658139898429510/image.png

they get scaling up per floor ye

especially when out of control is floor 5

[civic nest]

💀

so if im not specifically prepare for the stage

im ded on higher dif?

[storm current]

surely

[foggy fox]

should i play pinch-out with no +%ATK but all +%HP +DEF +RES

:CeobeConfused:

[storm current]

its slow

but its easier

just go all hp def

[foggy fox]

i dont have NG

which sucks

i only have reed alter and lumen built

[civic nest]

@cosmic dagger do u have any advice on mizuki opener?

[foggy fox]

is there any strats for 540 pinch-out i can copy

or atleast follow

[civic nest]

doesnt bilibili have a tons of those

[foggy fox]

like, low rarity or smth

[cosmic dagger]

aha

i have it bookmarked

because i watched it a lot when learning it

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1V8411x7bc

there you go

[civic nest]

🛐

[limpid siren]

aethervoid is that you?

i've missed you so much

[cosmic dagger]

yes rosa is top tier in is3

should also run her in sss

[tawny solar]

Which one

[cosmic dagger]

i heard ceobe module is broken in sss too

[civic nest]

out of control 😂

jk btw

dont do out of control

[cosmic dagger]

pipers call is easiest

[tawny solar]

Ok

Ty

[cosmic dagger]

emergency pool of procreation is auto loss for your comp

mlynar will die and theres nothing you can do about it

out of control is out of control

[tawny solar]

Should i replace her with anything

[cosmic dagger]

no need to explain

so take the least shit of them

[civic nest]

now u mention it
did aethervoid just become inactive now

[tawny solar]

Uhh

[tawny solar]

?

[civic nest]

why did u recruit so many random ops

[limpid siren]

aethervoid quit ak

[civic nest]

[tawny solar]

I was unlucky with my vouchers

[civic nest]

u can just get the reserve ops and save hope

[storm current]

hmm ye how the hell do you want with team like that

[tawny solar]

Yeah

Yeah

[civic nest]

recruiting randomly is a bad idea

[tawny solar]

Idk this is like my third time playing is3

[storm current]

what was piper call again

[tawny solar]

ok

I will not do that

Also

I got the 4 star costs nothing relic

[storm current]

out of control can make your hp go poof btw

[tawny solar]

Which is why i got a buncha 4*

[civic nest]

ah thats fair

but wats with liskarm

[tawny solar]

It was either defender or sniper

And i don’t rlly have any good snipers nor do i have a lot of slots in team

So liskarm in case i have two blue boxes

[civic nest]

u could upgrade your lunacub

[storm current]

no no no

[civic nest]

[storm current]

one of your issue is that

[scarlet ledge]

hi lolicon

[civic nest]

looks like shes e2

[tawny solar]

Yeah but i didn’t have enough hope the last time i got sniper

[storm current]

you even raise questionable ops to recruit them in the first place

[tawny solar]

It was when i was new

So i have random ops raised

And didn’t know which ones were good

[scenic mauve]

Anyone have recommendations on what the best starting combo is for IS3 and which operators? Getting a bit frustrated as nothing seems to work too well or get me far enough.

[tawny solar]

I usually go with texas omelette

[storm current]

there are many option actually

you need to specify more

what squad

what 6* you have

[civic nest]

which difficulty

[storm current]

what difficulty

ye

[tawny solar]

Yeah

[scenic mauve]

Normal difficulty for IS3

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

[tawny solar]

Ok imma go do piper’s

Wish me luck

[scenic mauve]

But let me finish up this one encounter real quick and I'll show what i have

Currently decided to use lappland, wafarin, and Orchid atm

[storm current]

if you dont have texalt, you may consider borrow texas and start with her

typically you should start with 6*

because 6* carry really hard

[scenic mauve]

earlier It was thorns, or I did a squad with texalter, a vangaurd, and a support? Dont remember what pairs with specialist

[civic nest]

if i get early spec ticket

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye feetus

[cosmic dagger]

best opener is probably gavial or ling

[civic nest]

should i get texas or raise mizuki

[scarlet ledge]

what is s2m3 eyja mats

[cosmic dagger]

if you dont have horn then horn opener works too

[scarlet ledge]

oh the blue stuff

i do have 1 on cn

[civic nest]

rich

[tawny solar]

Uhhh

Uhhhh

[scarlet ledge]

dies

[gentle finch]

hm

[scarlet ledge]

hi water

[tawny solar]

Hm

Before last battle

Imma upgrade lunacub

[scenic mauve]

Is she any good?

[cosmic dagger]

terrible pick for is3