strategy

[scarlet ledge]

elo teta

[lethal dragon]

Wtf is short knight

Oh lunacub

[latent anvil]

shortknights

[vernal lion]

time for tallknights

[turbid badge]

Hoshigooma

do tallest females, and get squished

[latent monolith]

Tallest characters are like mountain hellagur lee iirc

[vernal lion]

shortest is for girl, tallest is for man

[turbid badge]

Yea

tallest females tho

Glaadia hoshi pozy qiuboo windchimes akafuyu

the tallest basically maleknights tbh

[flat sapphire]

play femaleknights instead

[livid delta]

d13 done

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

[glass monolith]

Fuck we are 7 months behind CN now, CN having reworked CC PV today while we only cope arrival of Texas

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1006590726781534279.png

[livid delta]

I hope they delay global more so I have more time to save

[soft crystal]

Sock it sock

[scarlet ledge]

2 years delay

[lethal dragon]

I hope they give Eos notice so I can get rid of gacha addiction

Leite should I try s stages on my baby account

[scarlet ledge]

sure

worry on s 4

doe

[covert charm]

Sk-2

[bitter halo]

whats the boss movement for this map ? (sloma sss)

[hollow forum]

left red box, sits still for a while until half way through the stage, then go to the green stairs straight to the blue box

[analog marlin]

should i raise other vanguards like tactician? i already have like flagpipe strat got flame tail and sail too

[livid delta]

Muelsyse is a tactician

[patent oracle]

Should just raise all 6* like i do even thought 60% of them i never use

[analog marlin]

i dunno about that , i have ebenholz sitting at e0 lv1

i want to save mats

[glass copper]

any tips?

[gleaming lodge]

yes

Saria S1 please

other than that you should be fine

just try to be smart about your statues snipes

[peak canyon]

he has touch n gg

[glass copper]

I failed

could not kill the dolls fast enough

[soft crystal]

Why is your skalter not buffing gg

[sonic willow]

gg without aspd relic

[gentle finch]

no emedic

pain

[wintry hinge]

How can I clear these 2 stages wihout any support unit , any masteries (Cuz I cannot permit by the material cost) , and wihout raising any operators to E2 lvl60

[vernal lion]

what about your roster?

[wintry hinge]

This is my main Squad

[vernal lion]

about 7-18, Patriot p1 is pretty annoying tanky but you have Surtr, Pozy, Ceobe and also free mine so I think you can beat his p1 easily, Mountain and Mudrock can hold bottom left bluebox

[wintry hinge]

Forgot about that I dont have masteries

[vernal lion]

you can try the stage first

[glass monolith]

No masteries at all surtr would suck as she has range increase in there

i think

I don't know what mastery for Surtr do because not S3M3 Surtr don't exist

[vernal lion]

about 9-19, left side is not really much of tanky enemies (except for later) but there's flying enemy, right side is just dog and shield enemy

boss p1 is melee attack, p2 is ranged attack and aoe dmg and also fly too

both phases also got a shield that decreases dmg taken, which you can disable it by dropping pillar on her. pillar also makes her fall down on the ground if she's flying

[sonic willow]

with masteries, surtr/poz can solo with mines

using them together surely is enough even with no mastery

[latent anvil]

Surely....

[lethal dragon]

Holy shit
https://youtu.be/azpEHm2I0FY

[vernal lion]

4 star squad does every stage that looks like cheap trick

[glass monolith]

Normal man: I give up, i bring my broken operator
Silvergun: I give up, i bring castle

[vernal lion]

meanwhile E0 can still beat some stage, but 3 star will never get a chance to touch these cancer stages

[vernal lion]

that's still a fail

you can't cheat by bringing other rarities than just 4 star

[lethal dragon]

:gigachad:

[glass monolith]

He could just brought idk Pudding with trouble part being like last 10 enemies and 30 DP in bank

[lethal dragon]

His fault for not just młynaring

[vernal lion]

his fault for being 4-star gamer

[lethal dragon]

True!!!

[wintry hinge]

I also have mlynar and Irene so
Literrary bully patriot

[frigid kite]

So you done already?

[wintry hinge]

Nope

[frigid kite]

Need help?

[sonic willow]

just click skills and pat dies

[eager wraith]

how do i beat lungmen downtown

im losing my mind

[frigid kite]

Team?

[frigid kite]

Do you have Shaw?

Or any pusher

[eager wraith]

yes

[frigid kite]

What level? I guess she can do bottom lane by herself at E1 30-50 with skill level up to 7 at least

Or, do you have any problems with bottom, only mid?

[eager wraith]

yeah ik, i used shaw but replaced her with saria to tank the a2 drones

the problem is after 350

everyone just dies

i cant manage to keep them alive

[frigid kite]

Guess

Ok 1 moment

Something like this

Use Irene to help Blemi kill the top heavy, Gitano only reason for being there is probably 350, Lappland next to Irene (or either put Lappland ok top, both work)

Pretty sure her S3 can kill or at least dish out most of their hp

[eager wraith]

Ok ill try this, never considered placing blem top

Do i keep saria o go back to shaw?

Which is better?

[frigid kite]

If Shaw can solo bottom w/o help, go Shaw, Gitano should be doing the work to kill Heavies that go for bottom anyways, now, if you can do it With Saria instead or don't have any problems with her, no reason to change at all

[sonic willow]

are you open to borrowin

[eager wraith]

You mean support units?

[sonic willow]

yes

[eager wraith]

Then yeah sure, Nazhul#6359

[sonic willow]

well, if you have s3m3 thorns borrow already you can use that

[eager wraith]

Damn 💀

[sonic willow]

you don't?

[eager wraith]

I already tried with some borrowed units but didn't really work out

[sonic willow]

S1mple#2570

[robust elbow]

what are some general tips for the Stationary Security Service missions?

[fluid sail]

have a few strong carries, fill the rest of your deck with fodder for those carries & supporters to cycle thru your deck

[livid delta]

Heavy on vanguards and supporters

I usually start a run with 3-4 vanguards and like 4-6 supporters

The supporters can be level 1

Carries are anything that have big damage and scale well with atk + aspd + sp buffs

Mlynar and Goldenglow come to mind

Risk level buffs HP and Def but not Res so consider that when deciding what ops to fill

Also a little more nuanced but sometimes it's better to wait for an operator skill to charge and use it before stacking the next op

Consider your pacing when replacing ops and cycling your deck especially when you're just starting out

[gentle finch]

well said

[glass monolith]

My first SSS clears were mainly stacked GG carry day
After nerf i can get away with pretty much everything. Outside of getting away from getting draw fucked

[gentle finch]

skill issue

[turbid badge]

i love catapult but if i change her va , look her recruitment line will shorten right?

[glass monolith]

Timer is not tied to VA

Honestly i have no fucking idea what it tied to

[turbid badge]

i was gonna try but i got adnachiel

instead

[glass monolith]

Defender chip locked (short on chips in case of Penance)
Book stage locked
Fuck this game, AP-5 here i come

[orchid marlin]

I would swap exusai for Amia E2 if you got it. She wreckes those flying units on the bottom left and there is nothing after that so she can sack herself.

[robust elbow]

so not entirely sure what I'm doing when it comes to SSS so wanted to double check here before I jump right into things

was looking at some guides and saw that Irene and Gnosis were good

not sure if maybe I have too many supporters here or not

[glass monolith]

supporters are OK in SSS as when you play them you draw another unit

[turbid badge]

flagbearers like ehh, but there okay i guess

[surreal star]

flags are good

[robust elbow]

got a couple other vanguards raised I could use as fodder, I just figured I could put down flag early get a bunch of dp then rely on natural dp after I put down Irene

[surreal star]

what are your ely masteries?

and sail too

[robust elbow]

S2M3 for ely and S3M3 for sail

[surreal star]

hmm

i don’t have much experience with using skills other than s1 in sss

so you’ll probably have to get a second opinion

but i think saul s3 would be best

+myrtle s1

sail*

[robust elbow]

yeah I did want to mastery all the flag s1s at some point but more important masteries kept coming up

kk

[surreal star]

tbh you can just run mly and focus on ground

instead of gnosis+snipers

[robust elbow]

mly?

[livid delta]

I think gnosis works better if you have suitable damage already
I'd opt for GG or Mlynar given what you have already

[robust elbow]

ah

[livid delta]

Like he'll freeze everyone but you'd still have to deal with them

[robust elbow]

oh I figured I could just spam Irene skill until everything is dead

[livid delta]

There's multiple lanes

[robust elbow]

ah

[livid delta]

You'll struggle with f8

[robust elbow]

fair

[limpid siren]

Ground team sweep

[robust elbow]

btw which mlynar skill is used so I know what to look for

[livid delta]

3

His only skill

[robust elbow]

kk

so just get rid of snipers and focus just on Irene, Mlynar, and Vanguards/Supporters?

[livid delta]

Seeing your lack of a juggernaut you still need a medic to compensate for the fact that you'll be face tanking damage

The benefit of having high ground damage is keeping your ground units at a high hp %

Unless you have a unit that can self sustain that damage

Ground based comps are great if you have the units to enable it

[robust elbow]

here are some of my raised medics, Lumen doesn't have any masteries yet tho

I also got Skalter

[livid delta]

I'd start with 1 medic NG and go from there

Maybe even ptilopsis if you decide to keep the snipers + suzuran

[robust elbow]

nah ditching the snipers

[livid delta]

You can ditch the snipers but you might have to get creative with placements

Since some NL maps do benefit having high tile coverage to expand your vision

[robust elbow]

I could switch out mly for GG as my support instead and go back to medics

snipers I mean

[livid delta]

If you're aiming f8 mly would carry you much harder than GG

If you're gonna stop at f6/f7 you can go either

[robust elbow]

is it recommended to go f8 every time or can you technically just go until like f3 or f4 for the rewards then keep restarting it until you get everything

[surreal star]

i usually do f6 x2

[livid delta]

It's usually just time

Unless it's your first clear then it's to enable B-supports

[robust elbow]

I think I'll do f8 for the first clear rewards then I guess

[glass monolith]

I did F8 F2 F2 for new tower because fuck you i am not doing Viviana map

[robust elbow]

so mly it is

so here's my current comp for that, basic plan is to use Irene and Mly as my carries, Shamare to debuff, and Skalter/NG to heal

[livid delta]

7 VG is a little excessive

[robust elbow]

I just figured I'd have more vg since I'm using 2 ground units

[livid delta]

Even for a ground based team I stop at 4vg to open and fill the rest of supporters

If I split high and ground comp I do 3 vg/3sniper

[robust elbow]

so replace Texas, Fang, and Vigna with more supporters?

[livid delta]

That'll probably work better

Since you can consider supporters as "wild cards"

They'll eventually cycle into another VG

You may want to consider drafting operators that can tank damage later

Since your squad atm can deal damage but not necessarily take damage

[robust elbow]

fair

the game will give me some choices after a time so I can just take a screenshot to post here when the time comes right?

[livid delta]

Sure

[robust elbow]

kk, sounds good

final team comp before jumping in

[livid delta]

I'd say just try it out and adjust for future runs

You can only get so far with theorycrafting

[turbid badge]

use bards smh

cheapest supporter real

no heidi snh

smh

also uhh u could keep suzu

shes a supporter

[robust elbow]

okay so immediate problem that I didn't notice until it was too late was that I never used mlynar before so I didn't realize he had literally 0 block until he used his skill

[glass monolith]

He really make up for that when you activate his skill

[robust elbow]

what are the penalties for leaking 1 or 2 units

[turbid badge]

nothing

[robust elbow]

hooray

[turbid badge]

only penalty i can think of is in toron cuz than u cant leak crownslayer in last foor

[glass monolith]

YOU WHAT?

[robust elbow]

think I need to change up my strat a bit then since Mly can only hold lanes like half the time which sucks for multiple lane maps

[limpid siren]

There are usually positions for him to abuse his range to cover a lot of ground, then get some other chump to block for him

[robust elbow]

was thinking maybe Saria to put behind Mly

[limpid siren]

Gavial is quite popular for this reason, but anyone reasonably thick should do

[robust elbow]

tfw no Galter

[gentle finch]

I would either go with saria or ely

[limpid siren]

I'd pick saria

[robust elbow]

then probably Suzu I guess

game flaunting my incomplete Poze in my face

[gentle finch]

suzu yeah

[livid delta]

My recommendation would be Blaze given your lack of ground presence

But suzuran is also valid

[robust elbow]

oh already went for Suzu

[gentle finch]

oh true

[livid delta]

I mean it's valid

[gentle finch]

now seeing this guy's comp

irene for only long term ground unit

she squishy ngl

[robust elbow]

well dang

[gentle finch]

well i usually don't run medics at all

idk it doesn't really matter unless you're going for medal
if this is some of your first time playing SSS you will learn through trial and error

[surreal star]

btw

[robust elbow]

yeah this is literally my first time playing SSS

[surreal star]

i think ng s1 would generally be best here

[crisp bolt]

the atk increase one?

[surreal star]

ye

[turbid badge]

irene is amazing for glebe last floor carry

[robust elbow]

also what are some tips for the preadjustment thing since I assume you want your early units like VGs first right?

[crisp bolt]

wow that's a lot of supporters

[limpid siren]

mulligan away units you don't immediately want, most supporters included
they go to the graveyard though, so don't get too mulligan happy with units you might like to have

[robust elbow]

basically I heard you need supporters for cycling through units so I was just like "on it" then filled most of my team with them to support my carries

[limpid siren]

yeah supporter spam is a strong strat

[robust elbow]

so mulligan my supporters, got it

[limpid siren]

most of the time they're simply cantrips (like "nothing" cards that just draw another card), which is good because functionally that means they're not really taking up space in your deck

[gentle finch]

which supporter type do you guys run

[limpid siren]

A

[gentle finch]

same

[crisp bolt]

Yeah that would make the most sense

[limpid siren]

i don't think the scrying effect of B is better than simply drawing more cards

i want my whole deck anyway

[gentle finch]

mhm

i really would pay money to have you change nick to Sir Iggy

[limpid siren]

[gleaming lodge]

least deranged AKO dweller

[gentle finch]

truly

[glass monolith]

Wait i have default profile avatar on level 104

slaps Achetto mini-event avatar Day saved

[gleaming lodge]

wow imagine not using the superior SLUG WARNING avatar

[gleaming lodge]

nothing will ever top this one off

[livid delta]

@ Unsin#2970

[gleaming lodge]

anyway, back on topic...

@gleaming furnace slug love <3

[glass monolith]

There is ceobe one

[gleaming lodge]

ceobe is too stupid I'm sorry

[gentle finch]

blemishine Avatar is probably one of the best

[soft crystal]

Ceobe is smarter than a slug

[gleaming lodge]

not before I understand her S2....

[soft crystal]

Im sure

!

[gleaming lodge]

I'm not sure about that...

[soft crystal]

[lucid pebble]

who can i borrow for 5-9 CM? im struggling

[turbid badge]

Mlynar?

[gentle finch]

mountain

@lucid pebble did u clear it

[lucid pebble]

i did not

[gentle finch]

send squad

i found one of your old screenshots

[latent anvil]

water stalking

[gentle finch]

anyways you should be fine

[turbid badge]

Real

[gentle finch]

the map is really easy

[turbid badge]

Yea

Gavial alter and monster gaming

[gentle finch]

mountain solos top lane

kal solos middle

gavial + saria solos bottom lane

duos*

[latent anvil]

just shove everything in the front and it should work out if you clog a lane with mountain borrow

[gentle finch]

stage was easier than I thought

i actually made a mistake

gavial and saria spots should be swapped

instead of Pallas just run kaltsit on bot lane

@lucid pebble

[lucid pebble]

is that gavial s2

[gentle finch]

yes

it's her best and main skill

[lucid pebble]

oh i always use her s3

do you mind if i borrow your mountain?

[gentle finch]

it doesn't matter for this as long as you swap saria and gavial spots

[lucid pebble]

okay

[gentle finch]

i also don't have mountain

lol

[lucid pebble]

oh

[gentle finch]

i was borrowing

[lucid pebble]

i originally was trying to get a mountain to borrow but i got to the point where the refreshes were like 10 seconds

[gentle finch]

pain

@latent anvil do you have mountain

[latent anvil]

of course

[gentle finch]

he needs a borrow

[latent anvil]

oh

[storm current]

cant you just add medic here

a lane holder + medic > mountain

[gentle finch]

it kinda doesn't matter but yeah

[latent anvil]

but my fl is so clogged

ugh

[gentle finch]

this is his squad @storm current

from almost a month ago

[latent anvil]

gimme sec

[lucid pebble]

oh i found one

its fine

[latent anvil]

add me

[gentle finch]

i bet there's like a

ling duo or solo

[gentle finch]

@lucid pebble you can do this for a more stable run

since your saria i E1

is

well idk if you E2s her

the stage is pretty easy I'm sure you'll be fine

[lucid pebble]

okay

thank you

[gentle finch]

np

[latent anvil]

tonby

did you add me

i didnt cull someone for no reason

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[gentle finch]

I wonder if Pallas can solo mid

[lucid pebble]

its fine i got a mountain

thank you though

actually

ill add you

cuz i might need a mountain later

i sent it

[latent anvil]

why did hg say no more friend list slots btw

[glass monolith]

have 5 friends and you have all operators average player set on friend support

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats me

U cant accept if either side has full FL

[scarlet ledge]

@latent anvil

this is dumb

[latent anvil]

yes, that definitely does look dumb

i might try thorns stack next time

[scarlet ledge]

its thorns 5 guard b

[latent anvil]

sounds terrible, ill try it next time

[soft crystal]

Its not bad when thorns is hitting like 3k per auto and hits like really fast

[lethal dragon]

Copium

[sly drift]

You haven't set it to Magallan.

[limpid siren]

@tidal sedge greyy usage

idk if i showed you these attempts before

[tidal sedge]

You did not.

[limpid siren]

idk if this strat even works

[tidal sedge]

and it's nice to see

After getting a temp one in IS I decided I'll raise him myself

[limpid siren]

his module looks like a banger

i feel the pain of his rng slow

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

[tidal sedge]

78%~ chance to slow after module trait if my math is right

[limpid siren]

sounds right

[tidal sedge]

The range with that cc was really nice.

I love decels but their stubby range can be an issue sometimes

[limpid siren]

he gains quite a bump to his average dps from module

nearly 200 avg dps increase from base module alone

skill damage is understandably not much better

still

not a very flashy or exciting unit

[tidal sedge]

That's fine with me tbh

[limpid siren]

yeah

just a hard sell to anyone not drinking the weird unit koolaid

[tidal sedge]

He actually is interesting to me as most forms of CC outside of some 6* skills have mostly short range

But those skills exist so that puts him in an unfortunate spot

[limpid siren]

i feel like he'd be a loathsome unit to run in a general squad

although i guess i've put up with worse

[tidal sedge]

If someone wanted a more classic tower defense experience I could see them liking him. But that's pretty specific

and I guess Manti has a similar niche in that sense too unless her positioning is riskier

[ancient hearth]

is this for your 5 star niche?

[limpid siren]

ig so

not much reason to talk about 5*s otherwise

[tidal sedge]

and I already mentioned 6* skills can do better at aoe cc than him

[ancient hearth]

pray for more cantibiles

[fresh copper]

Kyaa Kroos~

[ancient hearth]

or fewer atk up gamma skill, dumb shit is why so many 5 stars have essentially just 1 skill

[limpid siren]

i think more 5*s have two usable skills than you realise

[ancient hearth]

convince me on lappland skill 1

please

[tidal sedge]

I think part of that is one part avoid e0 powerhouses, and one part HG being conscious newer players will have such ops

[limpid siren]

that's not what i said

but lupo only does use it sometimes if i remember right

[tidal sedge]

Simpler skills at e0 helps avoid overwhelming the inexperienced

[ancient hearth]

they could have done that by keeping the skill level gains minimal before lvl 4

[fresh copper]

Firewatch has two good skills

[tidal sedge]

Ehh. That warps investment curve

[full finch]

firewatch has three good skills
the talent counts

[limpid siren]

pls

don't confuse it

[fresh copper]

[ancient hearth]

warfarin also has 2 good skill

just 1st skill is usually only good in pretty extreme situations

like the surtr hospital

[fluid sail]

cantabile as well

[ancient hearth]

guard specter though, has anybody ever used her first skill after E1?

[tidal sedge]

Yes

[limpid siren]

sure

sometimes i want more than 15s of self-steroid

[tidal sedge]

That was actually pretty common early in AK's life

[ancient hearth]

huh, I basically never went back to that skill

[tidal sedge]

There was no Blaze for the consistency centurion role then

[vernal lion]

s1 gives you more duration for higher dps

while s2 is more about burst dmg and undead for a moment

iirc Specter with Gladiia mod3 can stall Talulah fireball with no problem

[ancient hearth]

Gladiia module must have been a mistake, dev probably fat fingered something when typing it

[tidal sedge]

I don't think so tbh.

[ancient hearth]

[turbid badge]

we will see on irne 2nd module and chalter module

[tidal sedge]

I think with the special AH SSS devices and Spectral Y mod it was very intentional as they probably figured it wouldn't be enough for limit pusher sorts to care. So it'd be a treat for fish fans

[ancient hearth]

I shudder to see mlynar or Surtr modules

[turbid badge]

I doibt they would remove the restriction but i also feel like the will

they probably wont

tbh

[tidal sedge]

and tbh, they were right. I don't see limit pusher sorts actually care about AH comp except for ones that already had an interest in it.

[turbid badge]

ah

[limpid siren]

AH clears used to be more interesting

now they just muscle through so much stuff

unfortunate

[tidal sedge]

and some of the ones that had an interest were annoyed by it because the buffs were so huge it made it too easy

Yeah exactly

[near folio]

But... muh Estelle

[wraith anchor]

Anyone got some tips for 6-5? Managed to reach half wave but as soon as the right side spawns healers die and my s2 hoshi dies along with them, also no I don't want to watch a yt guide, I might accidentally copy it

[tidal sedge]

She was pretty off the radar back then

[near folio]

I missed getting estelle on every aoe guard recruitment

[tidal sedge]

I don't remember folks saying much about her until Silvergun became something of a known name

[tidal sedge]

Hmm

So right bonethrowers are the issue?

[near folio]

I think its because defenders have always been more popular

Since most low end guides back then is always stall with defender and a ranged unit

[wraith anchor]

Yep, probably my only issue really

[hollow forum]

you definitely shouldn't be placing your healers on the top lane

if you have healing defenders like saria, gummy, spot they can help quite a bit

[tidal sedge]

Most folks either put a 2nd defender right to soak them, or do a very melee centric comp and only use the bot ranged tile

[tidal sedge]

Actually, Kyangi really liked Estelle now that I'm thinking about it

But he conceded Specter was superior in most respects

[tidal sedge]

Is using a 2nd defender a problem for your strat is probably a more pertinent question

[wraith anchor]

Gonna raise Saria then, used nearl yesterday, had some inconsistency problems with her 50% requirement

[tidal sedge]

Hm.

[latent anvil]

saria has that too unless you wanna cope s2 that everyone doesnt like

[tidal sedge]

You can't have a mt medic heal both defenders?

[scarlet ledge]

what stage

[hollow forum]

6-5

[gentle finch]

what yo squad

[wraith anchor]

Currently experimenting with this

[tidal sedge]

Hmm.

That looks fine overall

[wraith anchor]

Managed to survive half wave but that bottom enraged one shotted hoshi lol

[tidal sedge]

Although probably not Saria s3

Yeah the red melee lizards have 1750 atk

[wraith anchor]

S3 worked fine, I activated in tandem with Mostima

[tidal sedge]

A brick will need a duration skill up to soak that

[gentle finch]

interesting

[tidal sedge]

Mostima s3 by itself isn't enough?

[wraith anchor]

Hmmm let me see if its enough, I might have accidentally overkilled

[gentle finch]

Saria S3 is indeed unnecessary

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

broken

[scarlet ledge]

cm?

[hollow forum]

[latent anvil]

dont think so

[hollow forum]

never mentioned

[scarlet ledge]

ngl 6-5 is funni

[tidal sedge]

It's pretty interesting in that it's still a semi-common roadblock

[gentle finch]

hm

[tidal sedge]

Enraged Possessed have hands

[ancient hearth]

borrow a mizuki to spawn camp them

[wraith anchor]

Finally cleared it after 2 days omg just needed saria, gonna keep s3 saria to slow down the bottom enraged for mostima to kill, anyway thanks

[tidal sedge]

Nice.

[gentle finch]

gg

[scarlet ledge]

[tidal sedge]

They got it dw

[gentle finch]

me when no mostima

[scarlet ledge]

bodyblock the red possessed

cause they hurt alot

but ye grats anyway

[gentle finch]

oh

I just realized I didn't clear 7-12 cm

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT66N7H_Yqk

[turbid badge]

Yes

[latent halo]

Is3

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[scarlet fulcrum]

Will u aim D15 before nerfed expansion?

[scarlet ledge]

cliud sure

idk for me

burn out

[vernal lion]

I mean I did rush my IS2 in 1 month, if it's not because I'm too busy
like in earlier July

[gentle finch]

Eh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah same if i have time may be also push it

[scarlet ledge]

holy shit

[gentle finch]

I might do up to D11 or something

Maybe I'll surprise myself

[scarlet ledge]

is that water that know female playwright

🤯

[gentle finch]

yes

the guys in help don't know

[scarlet fulcrum]

[latent anvil]

female playwright 🤨

[gentle finch]

the files are actually lies

playwright is a hot mom in my area

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ak multiverse fr

[latent anvil]

why do i see no surtr or ntrk in high difficulty is3 btw

[vernal lion]

[latent anvil]

whats that

[scarlet fulcrum]

Based

[vernal lion]

I mean, I didn't know that first

[latent anvil]

is that just you showing early end3?

[scarlet ledge]

???

[vernal lion]

kek

[scarlet ledge]

huh

my first clear on end 3

i just hurry killing fucking dolls

[latent anvil]

mine was on 7/18/22 so i win

[gentle finch]

I was level 60 in is2 until last month

I grinded out the entire thing

[vernal lion]

I didn't watch guide, and I were suffering with my lacking squad in that time

[latent anvil]

you think i watch guide like this

look where the boss walked up to

[gentle finch]

🥶

[scarlet ledge]

@latent anvil
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/658639480290279435/1106452132598644818/Screenshot_20230512_132514.jpg slacking on end 4 grind

[vernal lion]

my boss was walking up too lol

[scarlet ledge]

[latent anvil]

bruh

if i show my medals

[gentle finch]

dalao

[latent anvil]

it is sad

[gentle finch]

I don't have the dedication

to do that

[vernal lion]

I got 3 ending4 medals

[scarlet ledge]

mine is 2/10 end 4

[vernal lion]

I just get bored lately

[scarlet ledge]

truly slacking

[gentle finch]

sobs

[latent anvil]

[scarlet ledge]

[gentle finch]

mine are even wose

worse

[latent anvil]

good

makes me feel better

[gentle finch]

No problem

[vernal lion]

[latent anvil]

[vernal lion]

man the old time

[scarlet ledge]

lul

[vernal lion]

I'm fucking issue with dp lol

[gentle finch]

I wonder what my first image from this server was

[latent anvil]

imagine i had spinach pasta on phantom

and it was that bad

truly no guide moment

[scarlet fulcrum]

Im still not stamped e2 guard squad for a reason 🛌 only that one. Cursed rng

[soft crystal]

Specialist squad is goat in is2

Frfr

[latent anvil]

but i am so lazy to do is2

every run is so boring no matter what ending

[tidal sedge]

IS3 soon

[latent anvil]

but i need to finish my is2 levels first

at 135 rn

[tidal sedge]

[fluid sail]

you have 2 days

[tidal sedge]

If you're so inclined at least

[gentle finch]

agreed

[gentle finch]

fr

it sucks when you know every stage and the difficulty is more or less the same every time in terms of enemy stats

[vernal lion]

you know too much about IS2, and currently it's the only one roguelike content

so yea

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion https://youtu.be/pkafyjZ-KcA

[latent anvil]

coin commandments

[tidal sedge]

The rewards are staying fwiw

[latent anvil]

ik ik

but i wont touch it again if is3 out probably

[tidal sedge]

Unless you need the remaining rewards immediately you could do it later

Ah

Hmm.

[latent anvil]

if the actual fun gamemode comes out, who want to play crappy is2

[tidal sedge]

Forcing oneself now still sounds less desirable to me, but that's just me ig

[latent anvil]

its not unbearable so im fine with doing it now

[tidal sedge]

I see

[proud drift]

try doing the exact same run for like 30+ runs

then it might not be so bearable

[vivid gale]

Does anyone have archetto s3m3

[sonic willow]

what makes is3 more fun than is2

[sly pivot]

its different

😱

[limpid siren]

IS2 recycled a bunch of old maps, and didn't do that much to shake things up from IS1

IS3 is significantly different

[tidal sedge]

Gonna have to find a new squad to main

Leader squad looks pretty bad in IS3 to me

[sonic willow]

[gloomy panther]

Well does it even need to be more fun if IS2 is already godly? Also you get to look at skadi alter every time you make a run, and that's already enough to qualify as fun. Also ascension!

[opal kiln]

hey guys

[gloomy panther]

Like if you've cleared every stage and you've farmed all your sanity away but you still want to play, IS2 is the answer and the only real answer. But once you're max level and have all the endings, it becomes too much completion and too little new stuff

So IS3 is the panacea for all those problems

[opal kiln]

is3 >>> is2 cuz is3 stages are way better

is2 stages are reskinned from like 2020

[sonic willow]

I didn't have the recycled map problem cause I'm not a fossil

will see when is3 comes out, but idk I need to finish my stupid thesis

[full marlin]

GG really does hate those stones

Cleared by the power of unga bunga

[glass monolith]

At least GG sometimes attack something but stones.... Compared to Ambriel

[limpid siren]

hmm

getting closer

[opal kiln]

have u tried using higher rarities

[limpid siren]

how do i get those

[lethal dragon]

Pay

[vestal robin]

Help I'm officially stuck in 8-6 secret ending

The 1st in line tank died too fast around 55±spawn and trying too put shaw on Silverdaddy tiles only let her murdered by those ranged enemy

Tried too block those mob with tanky unit like Mudrock but died like butter

[storm current]

bring castle 3

[tidal sedge]

wait is that possible?

[storm current]

and borrow horn face up

you only need to worry about the last waves, so just buff defender via castle or, and use global regen like ange/perfumer

[tidal sedge]

umm can whiplash use in this level?

[storm current]

yes

[vestal robin]

Omg... I forgor about horn...tqvm

[fallen chasm]

I can just Surtr innit

[storm current]

you can surtr it here ye

[tidal sedge]

last part Sutr it as fast as u can

[fallen chasm]

Last waves as in?

[storm current]

as in when the red soldier come

[tidal sedge]

like from 69/77

[vestal robin]

Will try

[tidal sedge]

if success your first guard probably has more than 10 HP left.

or even worse

2 HP left

[vestal robin]

I guess there is part where we prayge for success

[tidal sedge]

Well when I did this level it took me 40 times trying

and only manage to success by clutching

[vestal robin]

I think I'm at 30retry count

[foggy grove]

horn make it really easy

just try it

[tidal sedge]

of course if I can borrow her not Sutr

Well what if I dont have both of those to do the level?

[foggy grove]

you don't need surtr

[tidal sedge]

Really?

[vernal lion]

bruh

[foggy grove]

horn really cheese it

[sonic willow]

looks like one of them died

[foggy grove]

oh lol

[vernal lion]

hmm almost

[main halo]

Pain in the ass stage

[crystal meteor]

no

[elder flume]

whirly map

[vernal lion]

hmm this sss boss is immune to any cc effect

guess time to use Chen

[storm current]

i just uh

[main halo]

Why not Chalter

[storm current]

take global DOT every time

and out heal

mob spawn sound cancer

and stat up is bullshit

[vernal lion]

bruh

hmm you can't spawnkill the boss from the left

[scarlet ledge]

u can

need gg

[vernal lion]

I didn't bring her

My plan was just nuke

boss is weak tho

if you don't pick the boss buff

[somber falcon]

just buff and then unleash on it

[lethal dragon]

Oh nice idea first I need to free her from the forest jail

[gleaming lodge]

Pick the boss buff, he is still weak

Only goes up to 5k ATK (physical)

[scarlet ledge]

@lethal dragon

[lethal dragon]

Wow

Bully

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/971399000320253973.png?quality=lossless

[lethal dragon]

Bruh

And How much def

[scarlet ledge]

[lethal dragon]

Wtf Leite
Using thorns

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/853550555279261727.png?quality=lossless

Wtf is this emote

[gleaming lodge]

Just stack 5 defender A

[lethal dragon]

Defenderknights moment

Do you use eunectes S3 or S2?

Is S2 single target?

[vernal lion]

s2 is single

[gleaming lodge]

No I used Nian S1

[lethal dragon]

Lmao

[gleaming lodge]

All of Eun's stuff is ST but S2 stuns all blocked enemies, so you can go up to 6 here

Yeah I need arts

Defenders don't go over 5k DEF

[lethal dragon]

Oh fuck I was under assumption that S3 multi

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882236058383843359.png?quality=lossless

[vernal lion]

oh block moment

[scarlet ledge]

@lethal dragon

[lethal dragon]

Wtf

[gleaming lodge]

No no
Not all all
You must remember, Eun is literally a physical Surtr, but everything is worse (range, damage, ST, initial SP, no immortality)

[scarlet ledge]

eune s2 with block stack fun

[gleaming lodge]

What about it ?

[vernal lion]

just use Nian s3 and Heidi s2 and you have 3 block Eun

[scarlet ledge]

nice lvl...

[vernal lion]

I'm not planning to promote her yet

[gleaming lodge]

If you need to stun multiple enemies that's not a very good way to do it sadly

[lethal dragon]

What's your start team

[scarlet ledge]

thorns carry

[lethal dragon]

Bruh moment

[scarlet ledge]

thorns guard b 5 stack

[lethal dragon]

How much atk in total

[vernal lion]

btw have you ever read the part in parentheses

[scarlet ledge]

lmao

[lethal dragon]

I wish this DMG wasn't flat

But a percentage of his atk

Could be fun in SSS

[soft crystal]

I wish i wasnt flat

[sonic willow]

Dw, discord chat will give you validation

[gleaming lodge]

If it's like BP it could scale with ATK_scale

[soft crystal]

Wdym, does an s1 make the dot do x2 damage

[gleaming lodge]

Yep

[soft crystal]

Wow my bp is doing 210 arts damaage

[vernal lion]

just have some fun lol

[livid delta]

E2 Tequila

[lethal dragon]

Holy shit

I never knew

[sleek siren]

im going to explode I need tips to get through 2-3 and the whole chap 2

[vernal lion]

you team is seriously lacking arts dmg

[bitter karma]

test

[hidden axle]

2-3 needs pullers?

[bitter karma]

What was 2-3 again?

[vernal lion]

that's middle bluebox with roadblock in 4 directions

[hidden axle]

Iirc that stage with block shenanigans

So yeah no pullers needed off my memory

[bitter karma]

Can you screenshot? i totally forgot how it looks like

[vernal lion]

basically, making enemy move around while harassing their hp to dead

[hidden axle]

-did you skip the tutorial? It teaches you how to deal with the heavy defenders. Get a caster
-cliffheart not needed
-you can place blocks outside of the recommended tiles

[bitter karma]

Ahh, this one.

You only need 3 blocks: north, south and west of exit box

[vernal lion]

yea that, but his team is lacking aoe dmg too

[bitter karma]

Mass out operators on the west as your main chokepoint

[hidden axle]

Wait a min where are your 6☆s?

[vernal lion]

I don't see any aoe dmg, can you show your roster of caster

[bitter karma]

Chipping along the path also helps.

[sleek siren]

I did 😭

[hidden axle]

[vernal lion]

where is your aoe dmg

[hidden axle]

Don't skip tutorials

[soft crystal]

Theres pluma aoe but uhh

[sleek siren]

only have shining

[bitter karma]

La Pluma is your main

[soft crystal]

Arts aoe needed

Honestly use a steward or something

[vernal lion]

luma will die in 2-3 hits to the big dude

[sleek siren]

cause I left the game for so long and now I'm just starting to grind back with a blank brain

[hidden axle]

Explains why there are no medics here either
And two decel binders too

Well share your roster like naga said

[sleek siren]

im too stupid im sorry 😭

[hidden axle]

it's okay everyone's stupid at the start

Now your roster pls

[vernal lion]

if you want to use Pluma, the only way is put her in mid facing up like this, remember roadblock first

but again, your team is weak, so she can't solo dps herself lol

[pulsar ocean]

I did an attempt at 1-7 speedrun, anyhow I can improve the speed

[vernal lion]

you need Dorothy if you want a REAL 1-7 speedrun

[pulsar ocean]

guess Im stuck doing fake ones then

[livid delta]

Optimal 1-7 speedrun:
Remove all operators except 1

Speeds up loading time

[vernal lion]

because more op = more performance = more battery consume

means, your phone will lag if there's too many commands from your op

[hidden axle]

Remove cliffheart and either earthspirit or orchid
Replace with amiya and shining

[vernal lion]

ok Pinecone s1 will carry newbie like you a lot, so plan to build her for more dps

[sleek siren]

thank you

[livid delta]

Wtf 9cd

Based account

Screw accounts that start with Ash + r6

Efficiency is all that matters lah

[pulsar ocean]

Imma just do a slowjog with mountain then

[lethal dragon]

I am not farming 1-7 untill they give smth like PGR multi deploy or sweep like BA

[hidden axle]

Yall farm 1-7?

I farm 10-6
I get a t3 rock every run
I am blessed by the rock gods

[glass monolith]

I farm AP-5 because goal of E2 entire roster don't come cheap

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can farm 1-7 while blogging here, shrimple as that

[sonic willow]

just do slow supporter(red) + caster(yellow) here for the shields
then classic tank and spank on the right side of the map

[gilded peak]

Help please, who should I build? I don't have a 5/6* vanguard and I'm really struggling because of it >:c

[crude oak]

this a good channel for discussing modules?

[gilded peak]

Or should I go #help for this?

Oh yeah I think I should

[latent monolith]

Is it not magallan

[hidden axle]

#help more appropriate but we don't mind

[hollow forum]

you can stick to raising fang / courier / vigna for now

[gilded peak]

Thank u so much man

[storm current]

@crude oak ye sure you can start with anything

[crude oak]

well, just trying to determine if any of the upcoming modules are worth the investment, or if they're a waste of mats/time

[storm current]

uh

theres 2 batch

IS3 and IS

IS3 is mostly bad

IS is really good

i think

mod3 flametail good, mod1 texas and saga, schwarz modY is good for her too, hoshi modX is relatively cheaper investment cost

for IS3 batch, its ST medics, ange 2nd module (Bad), dusk 2nd module (for s3 playstyle)

the 6* ST medic module are shining and kaltsit

shining 1st module increase defense gain, its ok, but 2nd module prob better for heealing

[crude oak]

well, I was thinking mod 3 for Texalter

[storm current]

kaltsit 1st module help the playstyle of putting mon3tr outside kaltsit range

oh

[crude oak]

mod 1 for Saga and Flametail

skip Kal's for her second module

[storm current]

texalt module is fairly meh

[pulsar ocean]

vigna/fang/courier

[storm current]

its very low gain

[crude oak]

Schwarz was an option, but I already mod 3 Pozy

it was 25% more DPS for Texalter?

[storm current]

you can stop at mod1 for texalt

no

its 20% atk increase by default

mod2 is 20% atk => 25% atk

[crude oak]

overall was ~25% more DPS

[storm current]

mod3 is 25% => 27% atk

still not true

[crude oak]

noted by a couple different sources

[storm current]

mod1 effect give 10% by default

mod2 is prob fine

but mod3 is pretty meh

she does art so tiny bit more atk wont be much

[storm current]

that one prob include mod1 effect as well

[gilded peak]

Thank you ❤️

[storm current]

the 14.7% is most likely 2, where she get atk already

just keep in mind, if texas get 2nd module. the effect is mostly 80% dp refund + more dmg reduction

[soft crystal]

Its an okay module

[crude oak]

the 14.7 is likely mod 1 up to 26% from mod 3

[storm current]

so its not xaexactly hopefully

[soft crystal]

Its okay to go all in in this current mod for texas

[crude oak]

the DPS calculator confirms the DPS increase

[soft crystal]

Its a stat mod

[crude oak]

I was considering Dusks, but I usually use her S1 over S3

[soft crystal]

Nothing special but just gives her even more damage

[crude oak]

so I'm not sure if it's worth

and Hoshi's X module, wasn't sure if mod 1 was worth the effort

[storm current]

the thing about hoshi module is that

modY, only worth to go mod3

modX, not worth to go mod3, only mod1

so modX is technically "cheaper"

[crude oak]

I was originally gonna go mod 3 for Y, but was kind of talked out of it

[storm current]

but i think its not as good as modY, since hoshi nowadays is mainly used for global/long range tank

so modY will provide way stronger reflect and block more mob

[crude oak]

so X being more defensive would be better, no?

[storm current]

eh

kind of

but only to melee enemies

[soft crystal]

Imo kirito module is fine to get too

[storm current]

modY is more tankier against ranged

well

i think 2nd mod will be better for dmg

[soft crystal]

Since her skills come out so quickly youre retreating her faster than texas

And extra dp will add up

Yeah 2nd mod will be more damage, but i think the dp saving is as equally as impactful

[storm current]

she technically cost less to use than a merchant

18s cooldown, use 10 dp each time

[soft crystal]

But you can use 4 dp instead

Also in a way mod3 of it is like +7% more attack so its basically almost as good as mod 1 effect

[crude oak]

on that note, of the two, which one's better to use Specialist tokens on, Texas or Yato?

or is it 6 of one sort of situation?

[soft crystal]

I think yato

Physical gains a bit more from extra atk pots than Arts does

And shes never going to come back

[storm current]

well technically texalt is stronger

i think

you should save a set of token for yato

since -1 dp is really impactful ye

[soft crystal]

No wrong answer

Just prio who you simp for first tbh

[crude oak]

whichever is the meta TBH

[soft crystal]

Though

[crude oak]

but it looks like those two are both very strong

[soft crystal]

If you had 2 tokens i think you should pot 2 both of them at least

[storm current]

ye

if both are pot1

i will make them both pot2

altho technically all pot gain for them are good

[crude oak]

anticipating pot 2 from Texalter chasing Penance

[vernal lion]

magallan is still fastest, as long as the auto doesn't get desynced

I remember the record is 01:00:15

[sonic willow]

there should be no way to go faster than mag right 💀 since it's frame perfect or something

[vernal lion]

yea

the issue with Dorothy is the enemy must activate the trap, so it's pretty or early or late timing

but Dorothy is just slower for 15-30 milisecond than Magallan so I don't think it's a big deal much

[sonic willow]

[lethal dragon]

Which ever you get lucky on

I am using them on the one I get p2

To reach p4

To unlock the god mode

[vernal lion]

used other placements, still got the same result

[latent monolith]

How much of a difference is the load time from bringing more ops anyways

[vernal lion]

depends on your phone performance

[dull stream]

Any tips on dealing with Mephisto The Singer?

[vernal lion]

if you can't burst the boss even with a lot of healing, just kill it slowly then you will be fine
CM is the one that has increased the dmg from his toxic gas

mobs are quite tough, if you have Horn or Chalter, that would be easy to deal

[glass monolith]

Also it is worth to note than boss toxic fart stop doing damage after you kill phase 2

[bright swan]

why did vase not get damaged?

[dusky grove]

It requires arts dmg

[bright swan]

it is one that leaked

[honest onyx]

needs arts damage like ethan

[bright swan]

i use ethab

but it didnt stun it in time to leak

do i need to upgrade ethan?

[honest onyx]

no need, did you use his s1?

[bright swan]

he is e1 60

i did

i will show

[honest onyx]

if you have pudding put her in pair with ethan

[bright swan]

do i level her

[honest onyx]

nope just dont let her get hit

[bright swan]

'

[honest onyx]

ethan and pudding job is to kill all the spawns anyway so level is not needed

[dusky grove]

Ye probably replace catapult

[honest onyx]

put pudding in executor position

[dusky grove]

[honest onyx]

do you have aosta?

[dusky grove]

do you have water ch'en

[bright swan]

no

[bright swan]

no.

[dusky grove]

Well very unfortunate

[honest onyx]

aight so pudding and ethan

[bright swan]

can i replace shaw with bagpipe s2?

[honest onyx]

also podenco s2 is also good

[bright swan]

but don't that require maual

oh i can e2 her

[honest onyx]

any ops with damage per second is good for this anni

Dont need to e2 her

[bright swan]

i just like to e2 4 star

[honest onyx]

ahh aight then

so pudding, ethan, and podenco s2 are your best bet for this anni

[ancient hearth]

blue poison is another option as well

[bright swan]

don't have her

[bright swan]

want to know

[foggy grove]

Likely no

[vital arrow]

Bagpipe s2 doesn't push

Shaw there is for stalling the furnitures

[foggy grove]

Shaw is there to push it back on ethan aoe

[vital arrow]

So they stay in ethan's range

[tall sierra]

What does the third option even do in sss on stage 3

[gleaming lodge]

Spawns some metal crabs

As you pick it more, it spawns more, and eventually stronger enemies (like NL crabs, didn't go further than 3 so I can't say more)

If you're already camping the boss lane I think it's a great choice to take it a few times

[wary wing]

I never took that

just pure ATK and def