strategy

[raw quail]

I think I got it, Minus in #help was great help

[glass monolith]

"Just throw more bodies at it"

Chapter boss skill btw works same way but targets globally

[cursive mango]

well thats annoying, I missed 3 enemies on lungmen 2

[sonic willow]

arts dmg, but then suggest a phys op

[turbid badge]

horn s2 has arts

[sonic willow]

[vast wadi]

wait, you didnt know Horn s2 does arts too?

[glass monolith]

I didn't use Horn to even know that

[sonic willow]

s1m1 s3m3

[vast wadi]

thing is only Ifrit has long enough range to hit the tanks and not get one shot with rockets lol

thats if you even have them in a line which isnt the case in 11-12

[glass monolith]

Just pile up bodies to tank special attack and then beat living shit out of it

[vast wadi]

ig Gladiia can pull it out with s3 and survive, not nearly enough to kill it in one rotation tho

[turbid badge]

defective carn smh

ughh eunectus would of lived to kill offskill if i had ptilo masteries

[latent anvil]

Carn

[glass monolith]

Ptilo masteries delay her second activation, you sure?

[turbid badge]

yea ill rather use lin to see sp spam

[turbid badge]

she needed more healing to keep up and than i could of activated eunectus skill againi only used her skill like twice

[craggy turret]

WD-EX-8? Here's the squad I've had the most success with. My problem is the last wave of rage guys after I finish off the boss

[sly pivot]

p sure eben one shots one of the dudes

and u could prolly mlynar everyone else

[craggy turret]

One, there's 5

Mlynar deals with the boss then peaces out

[sly pivot]

he dies?

[craggy turret]

Yea

[latent anvil]

you uh, might want to change that yea

[craggy turret]

Change what?

[sly pivot]

how do u enter the last strikers?

with everyone dead?

like in rdp time

[latent anvil]

mlynar role, you might not want him finishing the boss off

save him for last wave

[craggy turret]

Just gavi and Irene on either side of the blue box

[sly pivot]

everyone else on the timer?

sheesh thats harsh

usually u want to enter strikers with ur team back

[craggy turret]

Let eben or pozy do it then

[latent anvil]

yes thats fine, but also, where is the boss dying

[sly pivot]

eben prolly kills 2 at most

[latent anvil]

because if ur killing really fast i think you might want to slow it down

[sly pivot]

but lets just say he kills 1

to be safe

[latent anvil]

so that you can setup post boss kill

[sly pivot]

u can prolly eyja

• bait

[latent anvil]

if ur killing boss hella late, thats not good either obviously

[craggy turret]

Right at the spot where he stops between the two ranged tiles

[gentle finch]

hm

[latent anvil]

the middle, thats pretty late i think

[craggy turret]

Surtr handles his fist phase

[sly pivot]

surtr is back for strikers?

just surtr the strikers or smth

ur dp looks fucked ngl

[latent anvil]

well you can either find out timings so that you can redeploy, or maybe bring a defender to make the boss stuck, giving you time to setup stuff

[craggy turret]

If I kill him too early, then the ranged dudes that spawn with the boss have a clear shot at the blue box

[sly pivot]

u can kill eb at the blue box tbh

like leave him on 1 hp

and just have ur shit come back on timer

[craggy turret]

I have hoshi and blemi both at e2 lvl 40

[sly pivot]

so u get ur stuff back to deal with everyone else

like on top of blue box is fine

u just want to buy time

[craggy turret]

But don't the red ranged dudes spawn after you kill the boss?

[sly pivot]

yea just delay the boss kill

is what im suggesting

[latent anvil]

yea, khant is saying ur deploy timers will be low enough taht you can deploy them at the end

if you kill boss extremely late

im saying you can put a defender and hold the boss for a bit, giving you time to setup stuff outside the fart ranges for the final wave

[craggy turret]

There's a healer problem then, with how I've positioned them, it makes it so I have to deploy that defender two blocks ahead of the blue box

[sly pivot]

mlynar kills no?

[craggy turret]

Can blemi solo with S1 no mastery?

[sly pivot]

just retrest mlynar the moment hes abt to kill

and finish eb off with ur other stuff

at the blur box

[craggy turret]

The boss I mean

[sly pivot]

anything solos phase 1

with healing

phase 2 u stall with protectors

hmm ig u can just use hoshi s2 + lumen

would it work idk

[latent anvil]

i remember my hoshi would deal too much dmg so it'd pop farts too fast

[sly pivot]

think the setup is

eb in the smoke

defender outside smoke

so eb gets atkspd reduction?

idr

dont even think eb gets atkspd reduction from his own fart

[cursive mango]

why doesnt cliffhart pull further every time

sometime it no work

[cosmic dagger]

You mean the hook comes out much later than anticipated

But still pulls eventually?

That one is a known bug

[latent anvil]

pull further? enemies have different weights

[cursive mango]

well on kyos video, cliffhart pulls into the abyss but mine doesnt

[latent anvil]

is urs skill level 7

[cosmic dagger]

Force issue probably

[cursive mango]

negative

[latent anvil]

[cursive mango]

does it have to be levelled up

lol

[latent anvil]

yes

[cursive mango]

OH NO

[latent anvil]

kyo usually says what skill level is needed

[cursive mango]

level 2 isnt enough ;-;

[cosmic dagger]

Pulling applies a changing force on the enemy the scales based on distance between puller and enemy, but also the difference in weight and force

[gentle finch]

hm

[latent anvil]

do you have rope? shes cheaper and basically does the same thing

[gentle finch]

I remember I had a strat for this stage like a month ago

[cosmic dagger]

Since the force is lower at lower skill levels, the pull force is much lower and thus moves the enemy much shorter

[latent anvil]

breakpoints are skill level 4 and 7

[sly pivot]

that was a long way to say u need higher skill level

[gentle finch]

Everyone was helping one guy and gave him like 4 different viable strats

let me see if I can find the convo

might be useful

[cosmic dagger]

Igneus go sleep it's like 69pm your time

[latent anvil]

igneus where

[gentle finch]

reaction

[elder flume]

Das a lot of pm

[sly pivot]

in ur walls

[gentle finch]

found it

[cursive mango]

rightio

level 4 requires stuff i dont have

time to farm 0-9 lol

[latent anvil]

do you have rope

shes cheaper

[cursive mango]

nu

[gentle finch]

there are a lot of different strategies for the stage from here down @craggy turret

[latent anvil]

What have I cooked

i dont think my strategy is replicatable

[ruby compass]

what is this 😨 what do i do

[livid delta]

Click Details

[sly pivot]

click details

wtf single braincell

[ruby compass]

🤨

[sly pivot]

was a tad bit late

[soft crystal]

I think essential oil or baking powder ( if you have healing) is best to take

[scarlet ledge]

imma do sss later

[livid delta]

do mine too

[latent anvil]

do mine too

[whole crater]

U guys play sss?

[flat sapphire]

omg leite doing sss for everyone?

do mine too

[turbid badge]

do mine too

sloma foods

[glass monolith]

Wake up 9cd, we have 20 caster chips to recraft

[graceful bear]

You ALWAYS SL7 unless otherwise stated, since SL7 is cheap

[glass monolith]

(I have e1 1 SL5 Gravel and she still does all the shit you need her for )

Oh fuck new SSS is boss/mini-boss rush

Plastic, Ingra, Viviana, Left-hando, Range bro, Tola, Melee bro, Whatever the hell that is

[latent anvil]

my elysium has been sl6 for probably over a year now

[turbid badge]

wtfart wgz

[livid delta]

My ely's been e2 1 m6 and I've used him like twice

[latent anvil]

i used him in break the ice once

and in nl-s-5 for spawncamp

but otherwise he collecting dust

[glass monolith]

BtI boss killing incoming

[glass monolith]

oh fuck 2 blue boxes, come on, SSS, you was so fun for 6 maps

[latent anvil]

sss not fun

i am not having good time

[glass monolith]

I spawn killed Plastic, Left-hando, Range bro, Tola and Boss so i am cool with it

[latent anvil]

at least i got the trim

[turbid badge]

wowa

[lilac laurel]

https://krooster.com/u/Neckes > what to do next? I'm thinking maybe Mizuki S1M3, or Rosa S2M3. Is there something I can upgrade for IS3 that can be useful?

[turbid badge]

whats at the end of the new sss

[turbid badge]

Sure mizuki , kal s2?

[lilac laurel]

Yeah, that's also a good Idea, need to put on the list too

[scarlet fulcrum]

As usual, its still snail family boss. The boss will let u choose 1 of 3 diff buff for it Periodically

[turbid badge]

id it also high def

or high res

[scarlet fulcrum]

Atk def, stacked true dmg dot for ur ops, or slightly buffed mob spamm

[turbid badge]

o

[scarlet fulcrum]

boss stand like forever there, u prob will kill it before even move

[turbid badge]

thats one fat vivviana

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its still gone to with 1 ash skill

[livid delta]

Sloma done

Out of the 4 maps which did you guys think was easiest -> hardest

Assuming you can borrow a carry from someone

[latent anvil]

sloma>glebe>rest

or maybe glebe first

but i dont like sloma map 7 or glebe map 7/8

[gentle finch]

@cosmic dagger what skill for Mizuki in IS3

or just M6

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sloma easiest, they prob made it in purpose

[latent anvil]

Oh this was for hardest to easiest nah I thought sloma way harder than anything else

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its from easiest still

Most each annoying enemies just waiting for their death

And no mob rush

After nerfed sss smt like that just 🛌

[raw quail]

Should this work? IS Phantom Map

I will put someone at G8 for phantom teleport

[latent anvil]

thorn on f6 face right better

[raw quail]

Really?

[latent anvil]

thats what ive done every single time, works for me

[raw quail]

Coolio

Do you think ifrit and thorns is enough to erase the orange guys

[latent anvil]

thorns alone is usually enough so yes

[raw quail]

Oh I see

[latent anvil]

you can also uh

perfumer f4 maybe

face right, ifrit and pozy wont get hit by anything i think

dont think it really matters too much, you either kill phantom or you dont

[raw quail]

Oh really? I have nearl too in case ig

Thanks

[latent anvil]

yea, thats the usual setup i do, aoe healer with arts on top, thorns face right, (in aoe healer range) and then some burst for boss

[raw quail]

Now that I placed thorns right, (with +~60 aside up), do I not need to place mudrock there?

Aspd up

[latent anvil]

well thorns probably will get stunned at least once, but other than that he wont leak much

[gentle finch]

@raw quail

[raw quail]

Yea?

[gentle finch]

is that Pozy E2s

[raw quail]

Yup

[latent anvil]

can you spawncamp boss

[gentle finch]

oh you don't have an elemental medic

[raw quail]

I already placed pozy lol

[gentle finch]

rip

E3 is the Pozy tile

[latent anvil]

well you should be fine

[gentle finch]

100% kill rate

[latent anvil]

i dont have pozy so i didnt know

[raw quail]

Hmm

Okay

Danke

[gentle finch]

nice

[cursive mango]

Fully cleared linemen outskirts!

[turbid badge]

nice!

[cursive mango]

Annihilation 3 is much harder to clear 400 tho right?

[turbid badge]

ehhh

[latent anvil]

anni 3 you procrastinate

[turbid badge]

anni 3 is not that bad

[cursive mango]

Saving the weekly sanity for the event poggies

[lethal dragon]

Cricket

[lethal dragon]

Is new map out??

[hollow forum]

ye

[lethal dragon]

Wtf

[hollow forum]

been out since reset

[lethal dragon]

I was playing on CN last day

Damn Kristen

[hollow forum]

nobody really talked about it because everyone's skipping on sss anyway

[lethal dragon]

Smh

Smh my head

[hollow forum]

overall pretty easy too

just a lil gimmicky because of course NL mechanics

[latent anvil]

wtfart yuu, lazy dokutah not completing sss on release

[dusky grove]

Imagine playing SSS

Sleeper game mode

[lethal dragon]

I was doing CW s stages

This ass stage took too long

[gentle finch]

I can't do this event

I have too much exams

Unironically IS is on the second to last day of my exams

[lethal dragon]

S-4 is really hard

[lethal dragon]

Oh no

[gentle finch]

Anyways

I need help to clear 5-10

[lethal dragon]

Good luck

[lethal dragon]

Raise honeyberry

Literally better berry

[gentle finch]

oh

She can help me with faust boss?

[hollow forum]

I don't see why she would, since elemental dmg doesn't exist in ch5 iirc

[gentle finch]

Oh

Who is good medic for him them

he does too much damage

[lethal dragon]

5-10 Faust?

[gentle finch]

yes

[lethal dragon]

Just use monst3r

[gentle finch]

who is that

[lethal dragon]

Best medic

Literally

[full finch]

why would you use kal on 5-10

[hollow forum]

if you're borrowing might as well borrow mlynar

he can probably tank faust pretty well

[lethal dragon]

But keeping him alive uh

[full finch]

medic issue

difference in healing

[lethal dragon]

In low rarity your best pick is sussuro

[hollow forum]

silence here would also be good because drone

[full finch]

silence isn't very good at E1

not that any medics are outstanding at E1

[gentle finch]

I have her

Does she need skill 7? Mine is only level 6

[main halo]

Yep

[hollow forum]

might as well do 7

[gentle finch]

Ok I will try this

[hollow forum]

unless you're somehow broke

[foggy grove]

isn't 5-10 basically deploy defender last and throw gravel in between if needed

[lethal dragon]

Sussuro has one of the strongest skill burst healing skill in game

[full finch]

there's a rather high density of possessed junkmen that can be problematic for low DPS but basically yeah

[lethal dragon]

Check the difference and decide Yourself I don't remember

[gentle finch]

I tried but my defender dies in end
beginning one of the big crushers is keep stunning my specter

[main halo]

You can S2M3 her but that's overkill and unnecessary

I did anyway

[lethal dragon]

Mine is still E1 50

[full finch]

same

[lethal dragon]

Never needed more

[full finch]

I S2M3'd ptilo instead

[lethal dragon]

E2ed ptilopsis because yes I wanted that talent upgrade

[cursive mango]

Sussuro that good?

[full finch]

she's useful

strong burst heal is handy, but medics like having utility or support

[lethal dragon]

Gonna E2 honeyberry

[hollow forum]

mlynar will kill all of the crushers and memphisto by himself, and he'll also be targeted by faust due to his taunt, so yeah

as long as you have sufficient healing to keep him alive, you should be fine

[main halo]

[lethal dragon]

Yeah it's very strong

[gentle finch]

tahnks

will try this

[lethal dragon]

Or you could always use ling

[hollow forum]

ew blue woman

[main halo]

Mlynar has good HP so he can tank Faust

[lethal dragon]

Ew hater with a blue woman PfP

[main halo]

But yeah healers will be needed

[full finch]

when do you ever need that much healing though

M8-8 wants aoe/multi target

[lethal dragon]

Jt8-3

[full finch]

doesn't need that much healing

[hollow forum]

wouldn't jt8-3 be better with aoe medics anyway

[lethal dragon]

But yeah you can just add another healer or ng

[full finch]

since you're already bringing FRD anyway

you can solo heal JT8-3 with a consistent healing

like whisp or mulberry

[hollow forum]

what about h8-4 though

[gentle finch]

ok thanks guys

I cleared it just now

[lethal dragon]

It's easier to just keep thorns on the map and heal him

[scarlet ledge]

yuu so pro

[full finch]

H8-4 is aoe/multi as well

since you have to cover 4 lanes or something

[gentle finch]

I can't believe mlynar deleted it so easy

[scarlet ledge]

they gonna love civilians

[full finch]

mlynar is cracked as usual

[lethal dragon]

It's chapter 5

[scarlet ledge]

[full finch]

no one was surprised

[main halo]

You guys are trying help clearing H stages while I'm still busting my ass off 1-7 farming

[full finch]

I still haven't done H8-2 because I'm lazy

[scarlet ledge]

im farming red cert if open
closed then books

[gentle finch]

Currently getting M3 on Mizuki

[hollow forum]

I've done everything except h8-4 and h9-6

probably not touching those in a long while

[scarlet ledge]

i complete all

[gentle finch]

They are kinda easy once you get the gimmick

[scarlet ledge]

[gentle finch]

H9-6 is wave management, H8-4 is boss management

[scarlet ledge]

sttill havent completed h10-2/4 on alt doe

lazy rn

[gentle finch]

I find H8-4 is harder to grasp

than H9-6

[turbid badge]

i@4-8 fRm

[scarlet ledge]

h9-6 is pain if u cant handle waves very well

[gentle finch]

true

[scarlet ledge]

[gentle finch]

thankfully i can

[scarlet ledge]

plus mandra damage

😳

[gentle finch]

She didn't damage my team

Skadi just tanked while ranged units kill

[ancient hearth]

H9-6 mandragora can be stalled

[gentle finch]

mhm

[ancient hearth]

2 strong healing sources + any unit with decent res and hp pool would be able to tank her phase 1 indefinitely

[main halo]

Specter with Gladiia mod 3 will do?

[ancient hearth]

I just had 2 medics on a defender nearl stall her until i could set up the rest of the team and max out my dp

[gentle finch]

specter is better off laneholding in this stage

although I am thinking from full AH perspective

but skadi tanks better yeah

[livid delta]

Czerny:

[gentle finch]

I actually haven't read his kit

I should probably do that

Is he niche even amongst 5*?

[storm current]

well

he is occasionally useful

hes art tank and sometimes art dmg can be a problem

[ancient hearth]

I don't think it's consistent, the beam on H9-6 if the stage has the 20% buff I think it has is 6.3k arts damage. Even with Gladiia module reducing it to 4.4k and a E2 90 splater with module 2 lvl 3 to increase her max HP she'll survive with like 140 hp if she's hit by the phase 1 beam from full hp. The cooldown is 15s so the second beam will kill and mandragora will walk past and no longer be blocked within 2 more beams even if spalter reblocks after the first time.

If splater is on module 1 the beam will straight up kill her in 1 activation even if Skadi is along with the module to increase AH max hp.

[gentle finch]

skadi is good option but I haven't tried skadi outside of nightingale range (skill inactivate on NG)
She definetly survives on S3 up though

[ancient hearth]

skadi straight up has 1k more base hp, of course she does

[gentle finch]

mhm

lmao

[ancient hearth]

she has like 3.9k base hp at E2 90, she can straight tank the beam with S3 up without any help

[cosmic dagger]

Oop sorry for late reply, was out for drinks with colleagues
Mizuki generally takes s1/2, s3 doesn't really need masteries since there's only two maps where it's the best option

[gentle finch]

no worries 👍

thanks for replying

I guess I will M6

[livid delta]

Defenders that specialize in defending as a whole is pretty niche already
His niche against arts damage let's him stand out since his only other competition is like Matterhorn ig

[gentle finch]

poor guy

At least he's not obsolete

completely

[ancient hearth]

his niche is being hoshiguma skill 2 against casters

[livid delta]

I mean if you think about all the options against heavy arts damage

There's like Nightingale

If you don't have her then there's Matterhorn / Czerny

[ancient hearth]

this is for defenderknights

[gentle finch]

ok

[livid delta]

And then if you don't have them then the alternative is like

High HP pool ops like Skadi, Matoimaru, Quartz

[gentle finch]

mhm

[ancient hearth]

usually dealing with enemy casters beyond having nightingale has been more offensively oriented

with lunacub we'll have 3 snipers with camo/invis to assassinate them

[livid delta]

Can't solve all your problems with killing

[turbid badge]

czernys pretty nice

[ancient hearth]

beyond killing them, baiting with frd's have been the other traditional option

[livid delta]

I mean there's definitely a lot of options

Just as with any decent strategy game

[gentle finch]

mhm

[ancient hearth]

I think the last regular caster mob that has actually give me trouble was the IC ones.

wth was the range of those things

[gentle finch]

Eh

[ancient hearth]

6 tiles?

[gentle finch]

I don't remember it

[ancient hearth]

I checked, 4 tile range

they came in packs too

[livid delta]

I don't remember them being a problem

[ancient hearth]

the red ones in the EX CM maps were a bad surprise

[livid delta]

I guess after a certain point nothing ever really feels like a problem

[ancient hearth]

esp that one map where they spawned in groups of 5

[livid delta]

So you have to create your own constraints to introduce a challenge in a game you can just bruteforce everything

[gentle finch]

Yup

[livid delta]

Which is also why arguments against specific operators is so boring cause there's always an easier solution using something else

Like why use x when 'y' exists

Yes it's true that it'd be a much simpler solution but I think it's more fun to look at a specific operators kit and see where they excel

[solid dew]

just wondering, what are a couple of the easiest annihilation's available rn? i need the gold certs. ty

[livid delta]

What have you done so far

[gentle finch]

I agree

[ancient hearth]

only the permanent annihilations give gold certs iirc

and of those, chernoberg is probably the easiest

[solid dew]

only the main 3 and the current

i thought the others gave gold certs, hold up i might be on something lemme check

[ancient hearth]

you, um, might want to read their phase rewards

[livid delta]

A lot of annihilations are usually made pretty easy by owning specific operators

Obviously you can clear them without said specific ops but it just means it'll require a little more thought

[storm current]

I think most are trivialized by certain 6* borrow ye

[livid delta]

So I guess my question is what do you have

[storm current]

Except for like

[solid dew]

i could send a photo if u wanted

[livid delta]

A krooster account would be ideal but a picture works, sure

[ancient hearth]

beating most annihilations won't be a problem, but none of the ones outside the permanent 3 will give you gold certs

[solid dew]

must have misread the rewards

mb

[storm current]

Frozen abandoned city is extra ordinary hard

But others are easy with 6* borrow

[ancient hearth]

they give red certs instead

[ancient hearth]

not really

[livid delta]

You mean the thorns + purestream map?

[ancient hearth]

you mean the dorothy map

[livid delta]

Based dorothy gaming

[storm current]

Dorothy map isnt here yet

So

[ancient hearth]

the ice slugs can't hurt you if they're blown up on the other side of the map

[storm current]

Frozen anni is hard mainly cuz ass freeze mechanic and extremely tanky enemies

[livid delta]

Unironically used ambriel on that map lol

[storm current]

red cleave can 2 shoot defender without frozen

[ancient hearth]

i just kept a flagbearer on the field, blow up the slugs with dorothy mines, and had gravel eat the freeze drones

[storm current]

But like

[livid delta]

Just wait for tex² and have her sweep

She'll kill everything including red weebs

[storm current]

S3?

[livid delta]

Ya

E290 mod3 s3m3 Tex² is scary

Lots of fodder to proc reset too

[storm current]

Hey shu

[livid delta]

I'm shu

[storm current]

Are you going for pot4 texas

[livid delta]

I'll think about it

[storm current]

For -2s cooldown

Its just 1 dupe

[livid delta]

I'm gonna see how I do with 100 pulls

[storm current]

Pot5 is talent upgrade for bigger dmg reduction

[ancient hearth]

frozen abandoned city was hard on release but nowadays it's much simpler to just brute force with 1 E2 borrow

[storm current]

Make her like 6% tankier

[livid delta]

Still trying to decide between p6 Yato or p6 Texas

But I also want to pull for chungus and ines

Gonna skip Reed prob

[solid dew]

sorry wifi's being scuffed might take bit longer

[storm current]

Skip reed for rerun

[scarlet ledge]

loli so pro

[livid delta]

I'd probably just borrow her if anything

[storm current]

Yato banner is kinda balls

I prob do 120 then dip

[livid delta]

True

[scarlet ledge]

shu

i s3m3 ng on cn

[livid delta]

I'm only doing it cause I like the MH franchise

[scarlet ledge]

so i dont have to worry on next cw s 4 like shitty stages

[livid delta]

I still haven't started S stages

[turbid badge]

u mean 100

[livid delta]

You mean 97

[solid dew]

oh god setting up a krooster is gonna take a year lol
wifis being stupid and wont let me do anything so ill do that ig
ill be back in a bit

[livid delta]

Np

[ancient hearth]

is this for the final nuke from kristen?

[scarlet ledge]

i rarely updatet my krooster

[turbid badge]

i havent updated mine since fia debut

[livid delta]

Can't be since you can just silence that

[solid dew]

ill probably forget it exists after im done here lol

[ancient hearth]

silence the op or silence the mechanic?

[livid delta]

Silence the explosion after death

She detonates all the balls when you kill her but you can silence it

[ancient hearth]

I'm asking because silence alter + skadance S1 is one of the ways to cold sell the nuke

[livid delta]

Oh ye I saw that too

I mean like just use lappland

or e1 waaifu

[ancient hearth]

wait, she isn't silence immune in 2023?

[livid delta]

She's not silence immune

[ancient hearth]

HG, you ok there?

[livid delta]

But somehow she's bind immune

[latent monolith]

Silence immunity is more like a 2021 thing

[livid delta]

Absolutely insane

[turbid badge]

wao

[scarlet ledge]

ur mom is bind immune

[pale orchid]

wait seriously?

you can silence that?

[livid delta]

Lots of things you can silence nowadays

[pale orchid]

i was just thinking of twilight of wolumunde

[livid delta]

I guess the map designers are learning how to play around it

[pale orchid]

yet you cant silence the stupid suicide bombers

[livid delta]

[pale orchid]

but kirsten you can lmao

[livid delta]

I mean it's such a small aspect of the fight

You still have to deal with everything else

[turbid badge]

real

[solid dew]

ok, so this is my hastily made and probably wrong krooster
now i can ask about what annihilations i should do lol. sorry if it triggers anyone

not everything obviously, just what i usually use

[livid delta]

I see mlynar, thorns, mud and blaze

You can probably clear all of them

[pale orchid]

^

[solid dew]

is that a challenge to my low IQ?
ill fail them all and be back here within the hour

[pale orchid]

i mean thorns though lol

[livid delta]

Hey listen– lmao

I'm just saying it's possible

But you still have to put some effort in

[lilac oak]

what do yall farm in dead weeks

[pale orchid]

(kyostin guide)

[storm current]

cant you just

copy afk guide instead

its doable

you can go one by one

[gentle finch]

mats for operators i plan to build in the near or distant future

[scarlet ledge]

cert or books

[solid dew]

dont really have anything to lose other then the sanity for getting 399 kills ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pale orchid]

you can force quit to not lose sanity

[hollow forum]

you can hard quit the game to not lose sanity

it'll just take time

[scarlet ledge]

nice stacked acc

[storm current]

you have several good afk units

so like

lol

[scarlet ledge]

mlynar surtr

[solid dew]

i only started in november last year lol, i just got really lucky with like 5 top ops in 2 months

[pale orchid]

bro wtf

5 in 2 months

[storm current]

its nothing

but i think new players tend to get more top ops than old player?

[scarlet ledge]

idk

[storm current]

not sure if theres any hidden mechanic to that

[pale orchid]

i got 2 in my first 2 months, but i havent got any in the last 5

[scarlet ledge]

ur jsut unlucky

i gotten 18 top op

[livid delta]

wtf pro

[storm current]

i got a lot of top ops too ye

[latent monolith]

I got none in 2 months 3 in the next 2 months and none since

[storm current]

enough to max pot bagpipe

[solid dew]

looking at my first message in #salt-mines i apparently got 6 in a week
idk if i belive myself

[latent monolith]

Omg whel

[storm current]

i think it was like

[pale orchid]

that sounds insane lol

[scarlet ledge]

good for u

my 18th top op

get me siege dupe

atleast she have atk+

[storm current]

bagpipe from gacha twice

one pot from token

[scarlet ledge]

so thats good for afk

[solid dew]

theres three ive posted in #salt-mines

[livid delta]

I just want indra dupe

[storm current]

my siege is pot4 now

i have more pot on bagpipe on lappland

pot1 lapp

[pale orchid]

shu whats ur siege pot at

[storm current]

pot6 bag

[livid delta]

P6 of course

[scarlet ledge]

ill aait for another offrate bgp

[civic nest]

so many whel

wth

[storm current]

back when in started

[scarlet ledge]

i got my two bgp pot on offrate

other is from token

[storm current]

i picked ptilopsis from the 5* selector

[scarlet ledge]

cringe

[storm current]

it took me 1 years to get lapp

now

my ptilo is pot6

[pale orchid]

i picked warf

[storm current]

lapp is still pot1

[livid delta]

I got p6 Siege before Bagpipe came to recruit lmao

[storm current]

somehow

[soft crystal]

Do you have s2m3 siege

[scarlet ledge]

my watf is still pot 5

cringe

[livid delta]

Ya

[soft crystal]

Siege gaming

[scarlet ledge]

i have too

on 4 acc

[livid delta]

[scarlet ledge]

siegesweep

[vernal lion]

wtf pro

[soft crystal]

Sieged

[dusky grove]

Si*ge user??????

[livid delta]

Glasgowknights kinda useless without Siege so

[storm current]

ngl

IS3 coming so soon fuck my prefarm up

since i have to e2 highmore as well

[civic nest]

soon

[livid delta]

Just buy instant e2

[scarlet ledge]

inagine not having much mats

[storm current]

i intended to max lv highmore and texalt

[scarlet ledge]

cant be me

[storm current]

but they came so soon

at least IS give you 780k LMD

and bunch more from IS3

[scarlet ledge]

ngl i might just get highmore on is3

and dip out

i already burnout on cn

playing it

[livid delta]

I've only been doing ending 1 on CN

[storm current]

[livid delta]

Gonna try to d15 ending 2, 3 and 4 on global

[pale orchid]

im not sure if i can d15 end 2

[storm current]

is ange weedy the only solution to d15 izumik?

[scarlet ledge]

shu

im still lvl 131 on is3 cn

[storm current]

cuz otherwise im not sure how you are supposed to kill him

[scarlet ledge]

im not just playing it much

lmfao

[livid delta]

[scarlet ledge]

[pale orchid]

i think ive seen lee

[livid delta]

I almost beat d10 yesterday

[pale orchid]

but you will need to ask kermit

[livid delta]

Then emergency node

[scarlet ledge]

shu

[livid delta]

Honestly emergency harder than boss fight

[storm current]

i heard

[scarlet ledge]

you love possesed thrower cm at f5?

[scarlet ledge]

avoid cm

if u can

[storm current]

lumen modX is a good pick for ending 4

[scarlet ledge]

f5-4 is death sentence

[livid delta]

It was the only one I can pick

[scarlet ledge]

if u dint have good ops

[livid delta]

I didn't have a choice LMAO

[scarlet ledge]

to clear it

[storm current]

since he can wake up sooner then cleanse other

[scarlet ledge]

so avoid cm at f4-5

but if u cant escape cm

its fucking reset

[livid delta]

I had fucking

20 life

And still died

[scarlet ledge]

especially the possessed thrower cm

[storm current]

ngl im not sure what investment do i want for lumen

[scarlet ledge]

s3m3 second mod lumen

[storm current]

modX seem relevant for hard content

• extra resist duration

modY is just more heal

[civic nest]

there’s a squad that gives blue blade dance at the beginning right?

[storm current]

yes

[livid delta]

Level 3 relic squad

[scarlet ledge]

relic lv 3

[civic nest]

i heard everyone use that for d15

[livid delta]

You have to pay for it though

[civic nest]

true or nah?

[storm current]

well

i heard people use safehouse instead

[scarlet ledge]

@livid delta oh ye shu when i reach d10
i just noticed all my squad lvl is 2

[storm current]

blue bladedance is for solo run

[scarlet ledge]

i didnt lvl it

[pale orchid]

wdym pay for it

[livid delta]

You have to level the skill tree to unlock it

[pale orchid]

[scarlet ledge]

btw

get any stun that hit air

[livid delta]

Also I think it's part of the expansion set?

[scarlet ledge]

have fun killing manty

[storm current]

make sense

[pale orchid]

texas alter now lol

[scarlet ledge]

if no tex2

use krooster or mayer

[pale orchid]

mayer

[livid delta]

Texas s3 and Kal mod is what I use

[pale orchid]

i already

[storm current]

no texalt is cope

[pale orchid]

e1 mayer

[scarlet ledge]

i use tex2 only

i dont have kal

i grab gav2 for lane holding at high diff

[livid delta]

Also I've been using gnosis

[pale orchid]

i plan to use gnosis + erato on ending 2

not sure if itll work

[scarlet ledge]

@livid delta

[livid delta]

And sometimes I'll grab the monster hunter welfare

[scarlet ledge]

eyja s3 goated

fuck eyeballs

[foggy grove]

sloma 8 killed me
no healing

[pale orchid]

lmao did you take the bleed

[foggy grove]

ye

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye

150 is for background right?

[livid delta]

Still sad flinger can't hit air

[scarlet ledge]

i cant remember my cn shitty bird brain

[foggy grove]

i never get to draw saria or my medic or any form of healing

[pale orchid]

just dont

take bleed then

[scarlet ledge]

dont

[scarlet ledge]

d10+ f4/5 is not fun

[foggy grove]

i'll just spawn camp harder next time
and not picking bleeding

[livid delta]

maybe I'll try using gravel + u-official

actually yato + u-official

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

[gentle finch]

waz dat

[civic nest]

infinite stacking blade dance

[gentle finch]

elaborate

[civic nest]

ask the cn spai

its icrease 20% for every smth

i forgor

[gentle finch]

@livid delta

[storm current]

it increase 20% atk and defense every fight done

stack infinitely

but only apply to 1 ops

[lethal dragon]

It's better bladedance

[lethal dragon]

Isn't it hp too

[gentle finch]

it stays on that op entire run?

or random

[storm current]

no

its def and atk only

and the ops is picked at random like bladedance

[gentle finch]

Ohk

[storm current]

which is why solo run usually go with blue bladedance

since guarantee for the one you want

[gentle finch]

👍

neat

thanks

[livid delta]

Survivor contract?

Ye it's pretty fun

[storm current]

Me when prefarming highmore

[scarlet ledge]

kek

[turbid badge]

Nice

[cyan gorge]

I've been stuck on H11-4 for a week now. I can get this far, but the moment the next wave of eaters spawn Nian dies and I can't stall boss long enough for her to come back. I'm about to lose my mind over this

[turbid badge]

use shamare ffs

[storm current]

uh

[cyan gorge]

not E2

[storm current]

e1 work lol

even e1 mousse work for perma atk debuff

[turbid badge]

cant u just mlynar the rot eaters

[cyan gorge]

Tried that, but ran into the issue of low dps

[scarlet ledge]

teta so pro

i use fw and dusk for it

[turbid badge]

idk just feed gravel rot eater, and than nian can tnak both

[latent anvil]

[cyan gorge]

Well obviously not otherwise I wouldn't be here

[latent anvil]

zenith what are you cooking

[storm current]

honestly

if you dont mind waiting

jsut wait for texalt lol

[turbid badge]

Rot eater eats nian 4k

[latent anvil]

you can spawncamp the roteaters

[storm current]

she will trivialize the stage

[turbid badge]

yea

[latent anvil]

you can feed them some ntrk dinner too

ntrk, they eat, you kill, you feed ntrk again, very high value

[cyan gorge]

I've been doing that and they don't die fast enough

[turbid badge]

who r u using to spawnkkll

[latent anvil]

ur bagpipe can pop them

[somber falcon]

Just put mlynar two tiles above SK facing left and let him deal with new wave(s) later

[cyan gorge]

Boss airstrike kills them before eaters die

[storm current]

btw have you tried uh

putting your ops next to each others

to soften the missile dmg

[cyan gorge]

Yes, they still die

[storm current]

since the dmg split among the targt

[turbid badge]

judt use adderlane whm

[latent anvil]

i spelt out 'LOL' with my missiles

[somber falcon]

Just pop ptil then

[turbid badge]

smh alderdale still 3 uses in that image

[scarlet ledge]

wgz pro

[somber falcon]

Or yeah use allerdale

[cyan gorge]

Cause I didn't need it for phase 1

[latent anvil]

and it was on purpose too

[scarlet ledge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/1103872148650610758/IMG_20230505_103330.jpg

get fucked

[somber falcon]

Leite pro

[cyan gorge]

I have 0 of those options

[turbid badge]

just nuke the rot chasers

[latent anvil]

oh yeah

my nian is still mod1

[turbid badge]

U have horn and Mlynae

[latent anvil]

cannot tank

i was coping hoshi dodge on every clear, and she never failed me

[cyan gorge]

My Nian mod 2 just barely lives with E1 Shining

but the moment she blocks 1 more thing she dies

[turbid badge]

wat r u other ops

[cyan gorge]

nothing that can deal damage

[latent anvil]

leite did you beat new sss yet

[cyan gorge]

I really can't do better than this

[latent anvil]

i think you have suboptimal surtr uses, she can do so much near the end

kill multiple of those eater while dpsing boss

[scarlet ledge]

not yet

[latent anvil]

because those eater dont go straight into the lane, they make a weird circle iirc

[scarlet ledge]

lazy rn

[latent anvil]

sss not fun tho, that is true

[scarlet ledge]

i only played ss when new stage js out

then dipped out

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

Where horn used?

for left side orr

[proud drift]

Isn’t ptilo a birb

[full finch]

owl

[cyan gorge]

Behind Nian to help kill trees/eaters

[turbid badge]

oh

wait where tf do u place mlynar

[proud drift]

Wait wtf zenith not playing birbknights nvm

[latent anvil]

is mlynar borrow good i never used him so idk

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye zenith

[turbid badge]

Horn best bird

[scarlet ledge]

how is ue defense doing on phase2?

[cyan gorge]

You try birdknights vs h11 stages

[turbid badge]

his nian barley live

mod 2

[scarlet ledge]

thats the problem

[proud drift]

I wait for texas alter

[scarlet ledge]

u can burst kill the boss

if u can

[foggy grove]

is texas bird?

[latent anvil]

oh ye you can try spawncamp strat

[cyan gorge]

I could, but the rest of the stage is my main issue

[latent anvil]

rest of stage probably easier tbh

if you pop boss early

[scarlet ledge]

last enemy aint problem

u can kill tree anyway

when stalling on phase 1

[turbid badge]

@cyan gorge U could use roberta

[cyan gorge]

I don't have her built yet

[turbid badge]

idk seems doable , Mlynars a really good borrow and can take the waves down to pretty low amounts of health, do u have any other e2 Operators?

[main halo]

You guys should know that I decided to stall steam knight to death when I could've stunned him instead

[latent monolith]

You can't stun him in phase 2 anyways

[cyan gorge]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Zenith

might be out of date

[turbid badge]

wtf u have blemi

well does kal hold left just fjne

just fine*

[latent monolith]

Yeah kal can hold left as long as you don't forget to activate her skill

[turbid badge]

ah

[latent monolith]

(me, failing 3/4th of my runs forgetting to activate her skill) <-

[cyan gorge]

Okay I updated it

[turbid badge]

just use ur shamare

Shes sl7 she can work

[cyan gorge]

over who

[scarlet ledge]

lmfao

[cyan gorge]

I kinda need everyone

[turbid badge]

gummy? or myrtle or do u really need them

whats gummys use

[cyan gorge]

I have dp issues as is

[turbid badge]

ah okay, but whats gummy for?

[cyan gorge]

stalling eaters

[latent anvil]

hmm, i always remember dp never being an issue until maybe the very very end

[turbid badge]

huh

[cyan gorge]

If I don't stall, Mlynar doesn't kill them fast enough

[turbid badge]

u can just use cantiable

instead of myrtle

[cyan gorge]

I can't drop Myrtle

[turbid badge]

Eaters as in vore guys or the tree guys

[cyan gorge]

the vore guys

trees are whatever

[turbid badge]

oh

[cyan gorge]

tbh I can probably drop Astgenne as Mlynar kinda overlaps her role

[turbid badge]

true

[cyan gorge]

I can try Shamare but idk if it'll solve my main issue

[turbid badge]

clear from desperation

The attack buff helps alot

Debuff lmao

[latent anvil]

i think, you need some support dps on right side

[cyan gorge]

that's what Horn is for

[foggy grove]

vore has 0 def
exu prolly shred that

[turbid badge]

yea they have horn

but like does gummy really need to stall the vore guys? just plop nian s2 no?

and than horn can just eat while mlynar half chipped them already

[scarlet ledge]

yep when dont have vored ops

[turbid badge]

anyways i feel like canta is a better start on this map than myrtle, since first of all u can use her to break the trees, and she also can print DP since trees just stand there

[cyan gorge]

I wonder if Cheeto is slightly better for killing eaters from spawns with her multi target S3

[turbid badge]

i mean wither maws 0 defense and 20 res

so it should do better than astegenne

[cyan gorge]

So now I got this

[turbid badge]

Yea looks good

i would try but my nian mod 3 , so she doesnt need shining Talent boost

[vernal lion]

if they are all same of taunt, the last deployed order will take next

[turbid badge]

waow buson cool eggects

[latent anvil]

i would also try but my nian is mod1, i just coinflip hoshi every time

[cyan gorge]

This is my usual opener, I originally used Gummy to stall that first eater

[hollow forum]

you can probably have cheeto handle that eater instead

[turbid badge]

how do u deal with the trees? do u just chip them

[latent anvil]

just leave the trees for the end like me

[turbid badge]

does mlynar kill them one cycle lmao

[cyan gorge]

kill all the small mobs, then use monster/Surt/Bagpipe to kill them one at a time

[turbid badge]

ah icic

[foggy grove]

i left some trees last

[hollow forum]

mlynar doesn't I'm pretty sure

[foggy grove]

[latent anvil]

probably not, i just used lumen+hoshi for one side and double healer+nian for other

[foggy grove]

horse nuke it

[latent anvil]

my mlynar

was e0 1 on that stage release

now e1 52

[turbid badge]

same

my mlynar not raised

[latent anvil]

im levelling him for base now

[turbid badge]

i borrowoed a spalter on that stage

[turbid badge]

roberta shield op blocking 1 instance of damage and than 2 at e2

[turbid badge]

i used spalter top with s2 and she slowly swallowed them while i broke their branches

[latent anvil]

how does one even get to that point, im gonna go try that

I messed up

my suzu died

[cyan gorge]

I lost

[latent anvil]

Not satisfying, surtr didn't nearly kill all

[turbid badge]

nu uh

u have gravel and myrtle! and monster coming soon

[latent anvil]

you can definitely stall 67 seconds

[cyan gorge]

they both die and Nian doesn't come back

[turbid badge]

is this still phase 1?

or wait its 2

[cyan gorge]

phase 2

[turbid badge]

wtf no allderdale used

[cyan gorge]

I was too busy micromanaging left side

[latent anvil]

oh ye that thing, the shield is so good

[cyan gorge]

also no where to place

[turbid badge]

just place ptilo facing down

[latent anvil]

shield is what makes my run possible

[turbid badge]

but yeahh cant really stall

no area to put shamare doll

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

unless u stall back just try unless u alrd quit

[turbid badge]

smh just stal till surt

[latent anvil]

yea monster, then doll on the big hit, monster lives, you get surtr back, and then you win because nian is back

and then you wake up because you failed on step 3 because its a e1 70 shamare and youre dreaming

[turbid badge]

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

when i see gravel anything possible!!