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idk if andreana can tank fireballs
Yeah probably can't
eyes
that's not AH
AH + mlynar 
skalter+ AH is the most acceptable tbh
then arkrec tells u she isn't AH 
cuz she ain't
ik
she quit her job at abyssal hunters 
but yehno u can't call her AH anymore coz she isn't
can't use for AH comps
arkrec doesn't really matter anyways ig so 
yea
i have a couple AH entries but they have some weird rules for welfare niche for example
Pog dalao
oh yeh i forgot to do that
i wonder if some guy did it before the event ended
i did 4op cm
oh yes cm mode
i got pretty close to 3op after a few tries
but then i moved on to trying to 2op bw-8
rip
that is painful
she needs to kill this one to survive to have her skill charged before the last 2 demolitionists come
Someone have mod2L3 S2M3 magellan? Want to try something
For me it's mizuki. I got 5 mizuki no chen
mag is good now. she can solo 1-7 
But he's cute so I invest on him 
I want to try how good her S2 is on enemy with A res or something
u know A res doesn't really tell u much 
that could be 80 or 30 res lmao
30 res would be B?
But we have the A and A+
Maybe it separated by 10-20 res. Since res number are percent
point is there's no solid value
It's true though
did you know
patriot attack is rated as A
even tho he can 1 shot pretty much anything
Is lappy S1 good for Annihilations? Or is S2 widely preferred?
just use s2 for multi hit ye
Alr ty
maybe the ratings are in relation to their other stats
i have no proof but it's just a random thought
sure maybe, but then if u compare it to another A rank attack enemy
they won't even come close
the letter grades have always been a bit silly to me
they're more there for fun than some actual metric
at best
it gives you the first impression of how strong they are
like A def and D res mean, they are resistant against physical
and vice versa
but this is irrelevant for chapter 9 enemies where they have refraction but still D res
Dunno when will s1 surtr be useful but let's do it anyway lmao
Pain
me with both skadis s1
But ngl this looks strong af. It just that s3 exist

I'd rather use s2
Surtr s2 or la pluma s2?
la pluma s1 
uptimes pretty good
Yea but it's arts tho.
You use art only if phys don't work. So maybe as well having high art damage than not lol
just use true damage
kal'tsit s3 moment
the case here is 310% scaling on surtr s1 m3 isnt that much
even if you use her to hold lane
is like 2200 arts dmg
im using pluma as an example
Its 2300
isn't 2 hits kinda worse than 2x atk tho? coz it would get reduced twice
specially for physical
art has res which is worse than def
because high def is 1500+
and high res is 60+
ok buddy you arent contributing anything here
Ah true
Can someone do better than surtr tho. In term of art consistency
reed
yea
Guard bnuuy S1?
The alter?
Good point but I already s1m3ing her anyway and I'm not regret since I will do Mag s2s3 as well 
Goat s2 doesn't exist
Eyja S2 cope

i may eventually mod3 90 eyja since i have her m6 pot3 already
Honestly consistent arts dmg is just unnecessary
Me who don't get even a single dragon op series

Someday I will spark it hoping that the offrate limited come as well lol
If I'm lucky enough I will get 3 different dragon. From rate up spark and the rate off
Dunno if dusk s1 will become shit the time it happened lol
it already kinda shit
maybe when her other module come out her DP cost reduction make her more worth to bring but honestly that module is more suited to S3
no harm in using it with S1 though
imo it's more the sp regen than the dp reduction, dp really isn't even a thing anymore with bag + flags
makes s3 rotate much better
somtimes i just never use dusk cuz she too expensive just for her S1 to do not much damage but now that i think about it that's mainly due to her sp Regen yeah
i mainly used her S3
But honestly I only used dusk S3 once unironically off the top of my head
@sly pivot is eben start in is2 legit fr
cool
which module do u even go
go x because u arent cringe
Do you prefer him being slightly better but still sucks at general
Or him being pepega at s3
i hate his s2 
Can uhh
s2 sucks
ah nvm, they probably cant get a charge with a enemy in range even with alot of attack speed
W but trash
ure using y because u want to use s1
i love having a enemy in range and he just drops 1 remenant every 13 seconds because 0 charge
and than mystic caster basic attacks are
, 3 second interval

no way is that dream
Will we ever be able to get Gladiia again?
Yes, wait next year for record restore
Will we be able to get all the pots?
Yes
Sweet!
just wait
Help on jt8-2 anyone
post your squad
taking a pic would be better anyway
wat are u struggling with btw
Jt8-2
what part of it
no which part
is it the mobs or is it talulah
Mobsm
what were your placements like
this should be pretty easy with mlynar doing most of the work 
I tried 2 strategy:
- Immediately deploy mlynar and amiya s3 for talulah after entering their range my amiya and mlynar will burst talulah giving her no time to breath
- Kill the mobs first with mlynar and amiya then after mobs dies i will retreat mlynar and amiya + i will stall talulah
Negative side:
- Impreal striker will obliterate my team
- Talulah will kill everyone slowly
Not at all
a kaltsit borrow would probably the best choice here
mudrock already holds one lane, just need someone else to handle the other
Man. I gotta build gravel/projekt red?
For what
The UFO? Or the imperial strikers?
or you could barrow one
bait
Both lmao
eh

u could
Mlynar have higher taunt level
just use mlynar for mobs
Already did that
Talulah ended up killing everyone slowly with her fire
And that big sword swing
yea
If i can give video of the gameplay i would
yes
E1 lvl 40
sheβs great
perfumer works
she'll work
mostly arts iirc
lemme check again
do you have a gummy or sth
Yes
I mean like built
But i dont even build her
No
I ignored her like gnosis π
And kalsit that never got e2 promotion
Hmmm
Isnt it easier to use mlynar for UFO and boss
Then borrow someone to hold lane
Or at least until you can redeploy mlynar for right side
mudrock and kal should be enough for the mobs
Of what im trying to do
just borrow kaltsit my man
what stage
jt8-2
jt8-2
oh
he has mlynar, just lacking good laneholders
imagine mlynar not being omnipotent
No question needed π
Hmm
why is the drone still alive 
Good question
Idek
lets uh, get that drone out of the equation first yeah
Mlynar died before the first swing happrn lol
also please use practice plan
I just turned it on and he dies due to that fire
You deploy mlynar early at the bottom middle
Why
to save sanity 
He kills the ufo very easily
If i can waste sanity then i can
π³ 
I rarely use pratice
well then again
i wasted over 250 on 4-9 yesterday and today combined
but still sanity is sanity
Because if i use pratice
And winning 3 star
But getting nothing
I will be malding
the whole point is that you make a stable strategy that is replicatable somewhat easily
at least thats what i used practice plan for
Btw is jt8-2 final?
jt8-3 exist
Not again bruh
even more fun for you, fireball stage
Sure sound fun
must borrow NG else uh.... good luck 
drone literally dies in 3-ish swings
I had him facing backwards at the blue box and lived through it perfectly fine
i feel like mudrock should be placed down
still not cleared? 
and since monster cant kill by itself, place amiya and healer first probably
4-9? π
yes
Alrighr
ha?
obviously figure out drone kill first, do stage in order
oh

its the stage that is pure rng on ling solo s3
the first dog must be hit by two fire rng
eww ling
here i show
i did this 250 times
still no win
in the vid one fire hit, thats not very common
try a lv90 ling
lvl 90 ling doesnt change, still need two fire
also mine is p6, which is arguably stronger than most lvl 90
i mean its been done before
but @turbid badge and i have been trying and we cant do it (teta i think i might have to give up)
does someone still have the link?
heatpump hitbox
use mag
nice ching chong
the entire stage
is just the first two fire rng
i tried 250 sanity worth reset still cannot
https://youtu.be/3Du-vzlv7h4 mlynar one cycles her bro
JT8-2 CM 3 Male Only
what the pepperoni! also full credits to the guy who made the strat in the first place i just made it work in cm.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kG4y1X7Yy/ - the clear i referenced
music :
Azur Lane OST | Winter's Crown 2nd Half BGM
#arknights #γ’γΌγ―γγ€γ #λͺ μΌλ°©μ£Ό #maleknights
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wtf male
Have you finished?
That english voiceline at the start, that Mlynar's?


ugh, 20 times, I guess
so pro
bruh
yea you need 2 fire
must be here and here
also, time for the heatpath is very RNG late
I did it in ~20 times, but you still didn't beat it in ~250 times
so the chance is like 5%
...
tragic
got the rng, but it's on practice 
that's just how T4 rare drop from stage tho
ok I tested it myself 
don't need to do all for the stage
H11-4 auto. Someone asked how mudrock can "solo" the left lane, here's the answer. Seaborn when Mlynar idling while there's enemies, no seaborn when Mlynar skill activated
any cn wana test something?
Mod1 s2 shaw on enforcer spot
enemies get blocked by shaw > use skill > do they go left or right
Why would they not go left ?
Because they are pixels apart from choosing left as the closest destination
Which can be countermeasured by having shaw mod1
Oh you mean they loop around to the left path ?
Uh
Its more like making them not touch right at all after they finish their node location
Touch node so they dont go right > push left so they take left path to box
Enforcer is feater type
When enemy is blocked by enforcer and then pushed, they still count right as closest pathing
I wana see what happens if shaw type
Isn't it just because Shaw pushes a bit more?
Hence the test
Will the extra push be enough to make them go left
En cant do it because no mod = lol get shit on force 2
EN moment 
Apparently we are stuck in a time loop anyway, we will never get new events
isn't weedy s3? it's force 3 too
long cd, also hope she didn't kill it 
right 
man, how to how?
my current target for e2 promotion is horn (i need one more unit to hold a lane down), who should i do next
img is sending
mmm. okay.
i'll be honest, shining is a temporary medic until stultifera navis rerun
where i can snag a lumen
Also base slaves if you haven't, ig
wait img are sending
Both are strong picks for the upcoming is3
So now would be a great time to raise them
it's times like these i wish my new account had thorns or archetto, i desperately need another aa sniper AUGHHHHH
i also don't use five stars often, but i'm open to suggestions
April works fine enough for aa usage despite being geared for the weird niche of frd sniper
after horn
I would maybe start saving resources, maybe you get texas (higher prio than fie)
wow
what if its the rng is cn only
rng for heat tiles shouldn't be different though 
Meet random offset of first game mechanics just because screw players 
Are the lower rarity ops still good in IS3?
I think I can trust farm this stage but there's a problem
Those golems are disgusting
Trust farming cancer cat 
Yesπ
I did it ππ
the first one comes from the left, and you have to kill it with your op,
the last 3 of them come from both left and right, turn them into pancake by using pillar
what kind of clear is this
That's a 0 empty slot trust farming ?!
does anyone have m3 fiammetta i can support unit
What do you want Fiametta for ?
Also #friend-id
also wat skill
S1 :LappCopium:
Farming
Do a 5-6 ops at least
This is bust pure suffering to trust farm 2
Might as well trust farm on annihilations instead
just think about a new enemy cc effect myself 
We already have "permanently remove operator from stage" "CC" effect, thanks no
Fear (enemy CC effect):
- Allies under the effect will target an enemy randomly if there's multiple enemies inside attack range;
- Have 50% chance to miss the attack;
- Can't be retreated manually during the effect.
50%π
Please never do game design
He is probably designer behind toxic fog SSS and 6 ballistas because why not SSS
That sounds like a map for me 
Ballistas are great for Liskarm lol
noooo you dont understand rng mechanics are good noooo
the nightmare effect op cc
Naga beat it in practice after 20
I didn't after 280
I am still convinced this is the worst skill in the game
Literally has anti-synergy with itself
Where nightmare alter
nightmare s2 was the go to shift synergy until weedy appeared
and then it got patched
making her grave

how hot is this take
ehhh
tf does Eben have to do with anything here ???
Ehhh
hence worse than him
Calling spatula and skadi worse than eben (oh they meant guard specter, still the same though)
Yea that's pretty hot take
Like there's no way gladiia's module is the reason they're better than eben
The difference in usefulness cannot be that close
Just a bad take, not a hot one
"Her modules don't help much" is the real kicker in this take
Like how, they both vastly improve skill uptime, which was her main weakness
Other than the module part, not all that wrong.
Spalter was generally considered mediocre without it.
oh ye
when we gonna get 5β
voucher?
my memory is in shambles 
this
Hey, could I get some help with 5-3? Iβve been struggling a lot with it. Team is posted below.
Why is your Exu on S1 ?
Skill 3 is really strong on her
Eventually skill 2 if you need more control but that's rare
The main idea of 5-3 is you want to quickly assassinate two of the red casters at the start
I guess, but I don't agree with him saying that they are above average, I'd say they're pretty good with modules. I haven't used eben so I can't really comment on the last part though
After that it's physical damage, healing, and blocking
As for being worse than guard specter..
idk
Yeah probably
Before mod I never used my Spalter much
if you use red alone to assassinate the two casters, they will both target her so you'd need another bait for them right after u drop red probably
actually i forgot, can the casters target two ops?
any way i can salvage this
depends, how many leaks do you want?
if 0, then I don't see it happening, even if you get mlynar up in time the devourer won't die fast enough and will nom him
what stage is 5-3 again?
they start to move fast ?
wait ah that annoying frd stage
i need some map data
go watch a video
they're not fast, they're just fat
48k hp and they're going to path into mlynar
β’ keep exu at s3.
β’ you need more fast redeploys imo considering acc progression and what resources you have on you. max out your yato and deploy
you probably could have burst them down if you had mlynar on the field, skill up, and trait fully active, but you're not in that situation
Okay, thanks.
Yes! Just a 2* but passed it.
wow I got ingored 
In this game 2* is asseptable only once, and they give you 2
for issues
I was borrowing, just happy since Iβve been stuck on it for over a week now.
Try to avoid looking at guides so I can figure them out for myself.
5-3 was doable using red vigna tho
you just need to run an aoe medic instead of ST medic lol

I saw and listened actually. Switched her skill and doubled up on healing.
Clearstream work?
purestream is still ST
aoe is perfurmer/ptilo/ng
yea just use a actual aoe medic
just use Myrrh 
Hey guys! I wanted to ask who should I pick to pair up with Texas between Courier and Myrtle
depend on how new you are
you may skip on texas early on
since she lack too much defensive stat to be useful
you can go myrtle vigna courier for utility, offensive and defensive in that particular order
Ohh okay thanks
Nian mod farm 
First I need to farm nian
based nearl family
Nearl family w/o the blem
shut up, i have entire kazemier but Blem 

Blue nearl 
Nearl family (with Surtr, with Chlater, with Suzu, with NG)
wow, it truly changed since I last l looked 
lol, i odnt have ntrk and uncle


Its just adopted members
Or maybe they married in 
She is adopted
they're neighbours in RI /s

Yeah mate nice copium you got there
Mind sharing a bit ? I need to convince myself Beeswax is a defender
Siege good
Beeswax very much is a ranged defender
Niche but she's good when that niche matters
Most notably for Casterknights players
yeah but I'm a Defenderknights player 
siege is good
Defenders are neat, there are defenders that have high def, ones with high attack, ones that deals mobbing dmg, ones that attacks airplanes and ones that heals other units
and most importantly, all defenders have 3 block counts at E1
wow i just realized e0 knights players live with 2 block mudrock and blemishine
mm
The only trolls are people who think Siege is bad
average Glasglow enjoyer
π£
mmm
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My favourite reddit contrarian
hm
I don't wanna spend mats until after sexas comes
will start 5* comp from there, @limpid siren zima S1 or S2?
S2 is unique but for strictly DP S1 seems better
dealer's choice
she's suboptimal for dp generation, so you might consider s2 the better pick
s2
i tend to just plonk her on s1 when i use her
Wtf water is turning in to a l*w rarity knight player
Which is 2nd worst after ma"le knight
dp u just go s1

there are some strats that required s2, but idk if mastery mattered
and it's like
daily max risk stuff, so it's whatever
there's usually a handful of clears for those anyway
hm
i will still rarity abuse
or else i wouldn't be sparking skalter
it's just 5* only is something I've always wanted to do but never got around to do
so I can use that to clear events and stuff and if I feel like stage is too hard (usually it's the player being bad) I will rarity abuse it


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weird
I did choose shadow, but my steward costed 24 DP in the stage I just played. Maybe it's a stage modifier
Blade mace+cloak maybe
I'll check but I don't think I got those
5-3 is pain, what the heck is this level
oh right
yeah i used him as bait
i totally forgot
I just used melantha to take care of the casters
cries in no melanta
tf
I mean leveled melantha
alright
Just use anything with high hp/high atk?
And preferably cheap
tbh I borrowed mountain and just had him take care of the entire right side
It's not a farming stage so there's no reason to not just skip the stage
For IS, which is best defender
ez pz
To borrow
did not expect 5-3 to be that hard tho
Ic
Ty
who can I use as a melantha, instead of melantha?
mountain
ye matoi is a good option for a direct substitute
but most decent guards will work fine in her place
basically
Prob latter
e1 lvl 1

give her some level and she should be a direct substitute for mel
u can stop at any point base on your resources
it doesnβt hinder her usage too much
atleast i think so
yeah just levelled 20 for now, ill test in place of melantha
Promoting matoimaru just for 5-3 is a little sus unless you plan on using her beyond that point
wait heβs using her for 1 stage?
Raise utage
just use melantha
its more efficient to just borrow to clear the stage ye
someone recommended borrowing mountain already, but that just kind of flew off
borrow phantom
Meh borrow ling
depends on if he have a e2 or nah
should be doable with e1 phantom
yes
skadi would just be slower but yea should work
Its just normal mode tbh
isnβt the cm the only part where ppl mald about
is for general use too
Then utage
right now I need; a wandering medic, hitty person who can actually kill 1v1, a good single target medic
why do u need a wandering medi again
want to do some of the annhiliations that have elemental damage
Tanker yet still melts to the red brawlers on Bobβs beers
Using a 4* guard vs red brawlers is just a lot to ask for in general
just dreadnaughts in general with their paper defense
Jaye is the best 4* guard
matoi tankier btw
was hilarious just watching the brawler muhammed ali her 6k or so hp down in 2x like a man hitting a drum
I just realized mudrock golem only has 3k attack
I wonder how quartz does against them
Eye patch woman 
she can take 3 hit at least
0 def moment
Even on s2 she survives and can stun
~6.2k hp
Taking true Dmg
S2sl1 moment
she assume the enemies has the same defense stats as she does
What's important isn't the dph it's the stun chance
2.5s atk spd holy shit
tried matio in place of melantha in 5-5 and it worked
eh does this stack additive to talent vigor or multiplicative boost
Looks additive
What's the cycle
not exactly cycle
pretty tragic tbh
30 seconds? Hm.
its basically a burst skill every 25s
It is fucking Savage 2.0 
i think jie yun look decent
5* Shirayuki
yeah she looks sturdy
welfare too
wind chimes doesn't even look bad by any measure
just
i'll be upset if she's ever necessary
if that makes sense
Tell me difference between this skil and this skill
She already has one?
yes
Is it not in en?
cleared 5-6, so going to go to bed after doing some E2 materials
should I go back and do every challenge mode? when should I go back to do those
when you have the time/sanity for it
usually you can keep them until you need the 
the early chapters are all just free PO
Chachek 
or do it immediately so that you remember what the stage does
like if you stall after 3 months you prob dont know what to do for the stage
When killing Mesohito the singer, you have to kill him super fast right?
Because when you do that, the farts stack up to a god awful amount of damage (Ptil can barely handle it)
yes and no
on phase 1
if you kill him too fast, he will stack up too much poison and you cant deploy anything after 30s for the fog to go away
meaning you leak to mobs
but for 2nd phase, killing him will stop the fog completely
so depend on how your team look like
i like using surtr for phase 1 cuz she can survive and its fine if she die
Wait so kill him slower on first phase, then slam him on second?
yes because you still have to deal with mobs
by killing him too fast your lane holder will die
if you've got the burst healing
bursting down lugia is a very good option
But not too slow for him to get to his third teleport?
if you can kill the bird fast enough to fit it within your burst healing windows, it's a lot simpler than dragging out the DoT and grinding down the boss
What's so bad about the 3rd teleport
no clue
but doing so has higher requirements on your units
a built out ptilo + one or two extra ST medics can easily outheal his poison on normal anyway
it's on CM that you might have to be careful with it
i meant pot
Basically pick your kill zone wrt what teleports matter
ptilo can solo heal normal mode
perf too
even when bursting
for CM, ptilo + skalter works
ptilo + warf is also a viable alternative
Possibly a stupid question, but is perfume S1 preferred over S2?
no
S1 has almost no merits over S2
Of course it varies on enemy attack speed, but even then, it tends to be too slow
the higher you raise perf (E2, mod3, etc.) the better S2 becomes due to talent upgrades
I can see using S1 when perf is E1, but at E2+ S2 is by far the better skill
Sheβs E1 60 for me
as long as your units dont get 1 shot
s2 is better
well
you may want perfumer s1 over s2 against BSL
why are you picking perf in IS2 anyway 
u need aoe healer for bsl
normal ST medics cant keep up
or just solo with yatoalter 
arts is aoe (global)
so you may want 2 aoe medic most of the time
phys is multitarget
Also I know for a fact this is a stupid question, but is leveling skills past 7 an immediate improvement, or does it have to be hypermaxed to see real change?
This goes with everyone
Depends on the skill
For instance, letβs use Cutterβs S2
cutter gain is big on every mastery
-1sp cost, +1 intial and more scaling
so not exactly "break point", but good gain ye
some skills only have minor % boost, some skills just add more up times
Finally got myrtle from recruitment!
Now to never use a flag bearer
So if I carry on doing challenge mode tomorrow, I might get to 75 pulls + the 24 given, 100 rolls enough for texasalter?
it's a decent chance at least
but obviously, nothing is ever guaranteed unless you have 300
is there a 3 op abyssal on R8-11
I'm tryna auto it but talulah dies
i think i got this though
what are the pots on skadi
max pot 
probably pot gated for her tbh
maybe others but skadi is very important
well i haven't seen strat but I'd imagine so
added that stage to the list of stages that prefer modx skadi over mody
So youβre telling me I have to build both mods to be optimal with abyssals
Honestly just thought one was outright better than the other
yeah
generally mody skadi is superior though
actually @tidal sedge I only had to push modx cuz I was tryna 3 op
you can just bring Andreana
I almost hit mody but now youβre telling me mod x 
Which is it I trust your judgement
Both
Both are good
but personally would prefer the AH module
100%
AH module it is
Is there even a mediocre AH module
Actually spalterβs kinda sucks
Ehh so Regen could be useful
*sp
either autocorrect or my typing sucks
Lemme re-read the mods
Personally for AH, I use skadi AH module and spalter's doll module
no i am saying
i only used modx for the clear
cuz i didn't use Andreana
if i did mody would've worked just fine
S2 usually used in most
Sometimes s3 is better
abyssal or just normal
AH u go full In anyways
fr
Abyssal
hm
I really donβt see how S3 is good
Yea just the 4 abyssals

and mods
its aoe, she gets a crap ton of attack, Hp
u dont really use s2 much when Specter dros
on spalter
it's actually insane how good her S3 is on mody
Eh s2 better with spalter's doll mod
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But yeah depends on the mod
mody better for most stuff
some clears are just straight up impossible without it too
Welp, guess I fked up
cuz of the +0.5 whole fucking sp regen
Yea
just max
thats really good
gladiia uptime is amazing with it
Just get both π
Its higher than suzu supporter/ mostima lmao
Really? Thatβs kinda nuts
I like how I am promoting mody on skadi and spalter
but
this used modx for both
Nah, that ones still useful
Guess Iβll just pour all my LMD and resources into maxing all mods for all the AH for the next month or 2
I still need andreana ;-;






