#strategy
soft crystal
Is s3 taxes gonna do it too
gentle finch
no
near folio
Damage diff
gentle finch
she'd die before it dies
soft crystal
But the ministuns
cosmic dagger
Is s3 taxes gonna do it too
never doubt texas s3 https://imgur.com/a/X6GUnaL
soft crystal
Ya
soft crystal
Ministuns keeping texas alive
The steamknight bopping from the ministuns look funny lol
soft crystal
He boppin
near folio
Chapter 11 mobs are fine for the most part
Except the tanks and the dogs
Also the casters but they are only an issue in H11-1
turbid badge
the wither tanks that came in pairs were sure somethijg
near folio
the wither tanks that came in pairs were sure somethijg<:RedOmegaLul:10022275346...
The biggest problem is they can reload their rot bombs
Cant even bait with frd
coarse aspen
Before I understood how the kidnappers worked I kept running out of dp and loosing cause they stole my mudrock
turbid badge
gentle finch
me when enemy info exists
turbid badge
mfw
gentle finch
don't worry i don't read them either
i only read them for wither tanks and found out they can't target ranged
near folio
Oh wither tanks cant target ranged with gas bomb?
turbid badge
Nope
gentle finch
lmao
gentle finch
ok im on floor 5
coarse aspen
I would see mudrock get knapped, place surtr, then place mud again and -80dp and now surtr on cooldown
turbid badge
in h11-4
near folio
That makes it easier
gentle finch
damn these stages are fucking beautiful
oh, lingering echoes mobs
lmao i forgot what they do
time to stop blogging, I'll come back when some guy needs help
sonic willow
does tree count as building entity or just static enemies
Wdym building entities
sonic willow
so probably the ladder
🪜
elder flume
Wdym building entities
dv robots count as building entity before active
soft crystal
Have to space out the clone with phantom to get the base effect of the mod
gentle finch
Does yato S2 not suffer from aspd debuff given by mirage
sonic willow
Hmm
soft crystal
Unless they make the clone op af
elder flume
nop but u can make other enemies stuck inside them 
turbid badge
lol
elder flume
just need a tree next to a wall
turbid badge
just need a tree next to a wall
hmm
Is there any other enemies like the DV robots
elder flume
cosmic dagger
Does yato S2 not suffer from aspd debuff given by mirage
even disarm doesnt stop her
so she truly just doesnt care
soft crystal
Yeah s2 has cc immunity
Kinda like in mh
Blade dance has super armor
Ls cant trip you as you dance
gentle finch
even disarm doesnt stop her
pog
soft crystal
gentle finch
still fucked though!
elder flume
sadge
turbid badge
aw u cant freeze them
turbid badge
lmao u can bind them
it totally does something
swuid
i dont think u could bind the unactivated Dv robots but i could be wrong
livid delta
Mizuki s3 honestly pretty fun in is3
Only because of enemy density
And since some maps are small
Like he's almost always guaranteed to hit the minimum to prevent hp loss
livid delta
turbid badge
Didnt know mizu s2 would gain one more bind target with mod2
imagine not knowing that
gentle finch
Mm
Ines would be cracked with redeployment time relics
need to try for that some time
turbid badge
Mm
Ines would be cracked with redeployment time relics
Yea
Agents only need 1 -40
-30
And Yato
gentle finch
truly the goat
pale orchid
Mizuki s3 honestly pretty fun in is3
I believe Kermit actually experimented with mizuki start and didn’t find it to be too bad
livid delta
I believe Kermit actually experimented with mizuki start and didn’t find it to b...
the free op this month is mizuki lol
turbid badge
Never
pale orchid
the free op this month is mizuki lol
Yeah Kermit is insane enough to try it unironically though
dusky wolf
free 6 star !?
soft crystal
I mean its been talked
Is2 mizuki start isnt bad either too
Like mizuki works in a lot of is2 maps
dusky wolf
i dont know how to use her wait her or him ?
tidal sedge
Hibifier usage. Nice.
tidal sedge
Simple doesn't mean bad
soft crystal
She doesnt have enough fire power to cover for a casters role nor the consistent healing output to cover for a medic
turbid badge
i like to use her at the start
tidal sedge
I retract my compliment
turbid badge
but yeah later stages she doesnt preform to well
soft crystal
soft crystal
So true
I should be placing her more like a caster rather than trying to cover for medic too
Cause her healing just not great
pale orchid
i think it's easy to say she's bad when most of what you do is abuse 6*s
Is she good in the context of 5* squads?
pale orchid
Shamare my beloved
limpid siren
pale orchid
So much value from raising her
tidal sedge
Hibifier seems a bit polarizing which is interesting, Arkhy didn't like her either
turbid badge
I only use her s2 for slow and stuff
limpid siren
i like hibiscus
pale orchid
Probably Lappland and then shamare
limpid siren
i just don't feel a burning need for her anywhere
turbid badge
mine is bena or beeswax
pale orchid
i just don't feel a burning need for her anywhere
That seems to be her issue though
Jack of all trades, master of none
limpid siren
i don't think it's really an issue
limpid siren
people that don't really use 5*s weren't going to change their mind anyway
storm current
tidal sedge
For me Hibifier hits a certain gameplay aesthetic of not doing too much nor too little while being a hybrid, but she's not notable in terms of desirability for exactly those reasons.
soft crystal
Wish manticore didnt feel redundant
latent monolith
Maybe I am part of the rarity abuse problem seeing my chapter 11 and NL squads 
storm current
Oh ye
halcyon adder
Hmm
halcyon adder
I am fine with 6 stars on the level of chong yue and such
latent monolith
Not at all coincidentally AW and NL rerun are my first events where I didn't touch guides at all
soft crystal
Dont feel guilty about rarity abusing
pale orchid
Oh yeah I forgot how much I abuse canta
soft crystal
halcyon adder
Anything stronger than ching yue feels too strong
latent monolith
I abused canta for NL but didn't use her for chapter 11
latent monolith
Most of my NL squads were canta siege myrtle, a couple stages I used ely too
storm current
i like cantabile
turbid badge
her s1 feels better to play than s2
soft crystal
Sounds like bagpipeless issue
storm current
no
turbid badge
maybe since i like the instant dp and redeploy
latent monolith
I own bagpipe
turbid badge
I just like how i can just get her out and than get her back when i need/not need her
And the attack buff is pretty high
lethal dragon
Finally
gentle finch
pro
lethal dragon
Only took 300 sanity to farm mats for pinecone e2
lethal dragon
nice e0 skado <:BlitzSmile:826566618322436116>
sonic willow
Blue woman 
storm current
cantabile is such a great pick
gentle finch
oof
lethal dragon
I wish I could pick her
storm current
since flagbearer become dead after you deploy the rest of your team
but cantabile isnt
lethal dragon
Based
gentle finch
It's very good
turbid badge
you 90d her right
storm current
i think the optimal play between the 2 would be
e2 1 cantabile
e2 max ines
because whatever job you use for dps go to ines
while canta print dp faster
gentle finch
mhm
gentle finch
i really like the free slow on S3
it's just a comfort thing though
most times i prefer S2 or s1
turbid badge
Yea agents are pretty fun i like the FRDP aspect of their kit alott
lethal dragon
Need Ines for reveal
livid delta
honestly I've been using Ines for bind
latent monolith
Need Ines for reveal
Me with scene SA ely horn 
livid delta
I didn't think I'd use it that much but locking ops in place in areas where Texas can't reach is pretty handy
for 5 seconds too?
bonkers
turbid badge
how much dp is she
sonic willow
1 more than canta 💀
livid delta
wait I just realized her sentinel reduces speed too
it's like a lot of nuanced things in her kit that seemingly don't feel impactful
but overall make her surprisingly handy in a lot of weird places
gentle finch
yeah
soft crystal
She feels like the Saileach of Agents
turbid badge
😂
gentle finch
her S2 range is really comfy too
livid delta
except more fun cause she zips around the map
turbid badge
She feels like the Saileach of Agents
me when i find out about saileach 10 aspd
gentle finch
her S2 range is really comfy too
Sometimes it's enough to lanehold cuz she kills trash mobs with her bind
lanehold low.pressure
soft crystal
Also 10 aspd debuff
gentle finch
but anyone can do that
livid delta
true but
latent monolith
it's like a lot of nuanced things in her kit that seemingly don't feel impactful
Yeah it's the kind of thing I like about lee
livid delta
in SSS
gentle finch
!
livid delta
she keeps her hp% total high cause the enemies don't get near her
so you have more time to shuffle your deck before swapping her out
livid delta
sonic willow
tidal sedge
@limpid siren I'm curious, what are your thoughts on ch 11? I'm having mixed feelings on it from what I've played so far, just got done with 11-15
limpid siren
i've really enjoyed it tbh
it's nice to take simple and straight up fights sometimes
tidal sedge
Hm. Maybe my break has dulled my ability to read maps. It felt a bit frustrating until like 11-8 or so.
limpid siren
i've had the added constraint of a weirdo team, which has pushed me further away from brute forcing the harder stages
the early maps in the chapter weren't very memorable to me
looking back through though, there's a few funny ones
11-6 gave me a chuckle
tidal sedge
Enemy density seems pretty high in a lot of stages
limpid siren
i like the passive pressure that the twigs apply
limpid siren
11-15 is definitely one of the hardest regular stages in the chapter
tidal sedge
Not that it's a bad thing necessarily
Hm, really?
I guess Eben's ability to single out the rockets was more useful than I expected
limpid siren
yeah
if you don't have a tidy way to handle the launchers
you spend a long time getting pummelled by them
tidal sedge
Along with Mizuki being able to clear the twigs without being eaten
near folio
<@338172427655839747> I'm curious, what are your thoughts on ch 11? I'm having m...
11-15 is the hardest normal stage
limpid siren
i think 11-15 really drives home how ranged-favoured the chapter is
near folio
For H stages all of them are hard except H11-2
near folio
especially considering that devourers have 0 def until they eat
Also the wither tanks dont target ranged with the bomb
soft crystal
11-15 didnt feel hard cause mlynar abuse
pale orchid
marksman food
Yeah exu felt really good on this chapter
tidal sedge
especially considering that devourers have 0 def until they eat
Wait, really? They took a bit for Archetto to kill. Do they have fat hp?
soft crystal
Yeah well if he didnt exist i can see why though
turbid badge
if you don't have a tidy way to handle the launchers
Yea
near folio
Wait, really? They took a bit for Archetto to kill. Do they have fat hp?
Fat hp yeah
turbid badge
really need arts
tidal sedge
Okay so I should have used s3
limpid siren
yeah
tidal sedge
I imagine Krooster slaps them then
limpid siren
bp will barely get through one iirc
pale orchid
The Roteater
What’s that again?
turbid badge
The Roteater
Thats the tree
near folio
The dog can solo 95% of the game's roster
near folio
Thats the tree
The dog
limpid siren
rotchasers are the dogs
near folio
Oh
pale orchid
Well bring a medic…
near folio
Rotchaser
turbid badge
Loll
near folio
Well bring a medic…
Even with a medic 90% of the game still dies to it
tidal sedge
Maybe what got me was unfamiliarity with the enemies until stuff clicked at around 11-8
limpid siren
i like the enemy cast for this chapter
near folio
i like the enemy cast for this chapter
I hate the dogs
limpid siren
ch10's enemy cast was all a big amorphous blob to me
near folio
The dogs did not need to exist
near folio
Even Mountain has trouble trying to kill a dog
limpid siren
ch10 was great, too
near folio
And phantom + clone loses to dog as well
tidal sedge
Hm. Can Hibifier turn off the dog's ability
near folio
ch10 was great, too
Ch10 was carried by Manfred
tidal sedge
Nice. Maybe that's why they weren't that big of a deal to me then
soft crystal
Honestly the block slugs of c10 was fun
near folio
Its not the dog's ability that makes it oppressive
Its A atk with arts damage
The ability is just the cherry on top
soft crystal
Playing with the canon is fun too
turbid badge
i love the 1.8 ASPD interval
near folio
Steam Knight is a fun boss though
soft crystal
Chapter 9 was cool with the pillars
tidal sedge
I think I'll replay some of the earlier ch 11 stages later and see what I think with all this in mind
near folio
Chapter 9 was cool with the pillars
Until H9-6
limpid siren
have you tried out dagda at all?
soft crystal
Thats also cool
near folio
Mandragora is an awful boss
tidal sedge
I've been borrowing a Dagda every map
soft crystal
Mandra is a good boss imo
near folio
Mandra is a good boss imo
Not in H9-6
In H9-6 you probably already use 2 pillars to set up middle lane
limpid siren
what do you think of her?
near folio
Leaving 2 to use for mandra
tidal sedge
She's a bit more prone to dying than I expected with how her 2nd talent reads, but I'm probably being too stingy with supporting her.
near folio
And phase 2 sandstorm killing all your ranged ops as she passes through wasnt fun either
soft crystal
I have rarity abuse brain so idk, it was not bad for me when ng can just stall mandra
near folio
And lets not forget her barrier with the levitate
tidal sedge
Dropping healers earlier is part of what made the maps more manageable, and part of why I'm liking Hibifier these maps
soft crystal
Then phase 2 just gets killed with 1 pillar
near folio
If you dont have the top meta dps dont even think about trying to attack her phase 2 under barrier
limpid siren
i agree that dagda's life leech is a lot weaker than i expected
i remember doing the paper maths on it and feeling suspicious about how high it was
near folio
I mean I can always cheese mandra by slamming her with pozy and mlynar
But that would just mean im not respecting the bosses
But mandragora doesnt deserve my respect
limpid siren
i mostly just use dagda as a souped-up charger anyway
near folio
Do you think Jaye can 1v1 a rotchaser and come out alive?
soft crystal
I use whatever gets the job done
turbid badge
Do you think Jaye can 1v1 a rotchaser and come out alive?
Yea he should
somber falcon
Do you think Jaye can 1v1 a rotchaser and come out alive?
easily
he has green numbers
near folio
Yea he should
Ive been hearing that mountain comes out barely alive from one
tidal sedge
i mostly just use dagda as a souped-up charger anyway
That's probably the best way to use her. Although a bit unfortunate given her 1st talent
turbid badge
mountain does fine
near folio
without skill
Without skill on he straight up dies
limpid siren
i'm okay with leaving her in lanes that she's chewing up tbh
near folio
Even Blemishine with a healer can barely kill a rotchaser
limpid siren
i haven't noticed her desperately needing the stacks, but i guess this is kinda hard to measure until you really push her
turbid badge
she kills just fine for me
near folio
I mean she can but you need to press the skills
They also tested phantom on the rotchaser
And with clone splitboxing even he cant kill it
soft crystal
limpid siren
it's satisfying to watch how fast she can dump damage onto enemies too
near folio
What is this abomination?
soft crystal
Common phantom L
limpid siren
i'm here for that kinda nonsense
tidal sedge
Also I can understand Paprika/Chain Medic design given the chapter mechanics. The corruption stuff spreads a lot of chip around
limpid siren
does paprika have mt medic range?
tidal sedge
Yes
near folio
This chapter is roberta showcase
limpid siren
like idk why they did the same thing of adding such a vicious drop-off to the bounces
it's the exact same mistake they made for chain casters
near folio
mountain actually gets pretty low
1 dog btw
soft crystal
Well they probably overcorrected cause they thought giving too much healing output with the flat heal talents would be op
halcyon adder
Mountain will die if u don't heal him
turbid badge
Mountain will die if u don't heal him
well yea
soft crystal
"Op"
limpid siren
Well they probably overcorrected cause they thought giving too much healing outp...
this assessment kinda puts the cart before the horse
halcyon adder
Blemi s2 can solo all dogs most likely
tidal sedge
The drop off is very harsh ye, Paprika talent being dedicated to bypassing it while being the first chain medic should've been a red flag to design.
turbid badge
Too bad vore guys go that lane too
soft crystal
Well its hg
limpid siren
ultimately her performance isn't really a factor for me
soft crystal
They made stuff like angelina module
pale orchid
Too bad vore guys go that lane too
Exu + Gladiia and a medic is what I used to hold down that lane
turbid badge
i have 5 medics heavily invested into already
b b but
pale orchid
Gladiia I’m pretty satisfied with her performance
limpid siren
i mean yeah, that's cool and all
soft crystal
I should have honestly used exu in h11-4
limpid siren
soft crystal
As she shreds a lot of threats in there
tidal sedge
But trying her out I do see the bouncing around allowing some pretty far reach with the corruption
Oh right
near folio
Does Paprika have similar output to ST medic on the first target?
turbid badge
Yea?
tidal sedge
Yeah Silence clowns on her, I can't argue that
limpid siren
silence is a mean comparison tbh
soft crystal
Does Paprika have similar output to ST medic on the first target?
No until hp is below 40
near folio
I see
limpid siren
i haven't been able to use her yet
but when i give up on this silly team
i'm sure silence will do some good work
near folio
Paprika will probably only be used when ranged tiles are restrictive
The ST medic range is pretty good
tidal sedge
My e1 55 Paprika has 403 atk. My e1 60 Silence has 468 atk
near folio
Thats why you would need a lot of tile restrictions before even considering using paprika
tidal sedge
So about 15%~ weaker
turbid badge
the last enemy she chain heals for so little, module come 
soft crystal
The talent will cover the difference
turbid badge
fair
soft crystal
Shes a pure healer with nothing else
turbid badge
She targets lowest Hp right
soft crystal
No
turbid badge
hm? hows does her Targetting prio work
soft crystal
Wait i mean yes
turbid badge
Oh
tidal sedge
How the bouncing targets I've yet to fully test
turbid badge
idk the issue i have with Paprika will likely heal the closer Operators to full first, then be unable to keep healing the Operators who are outside of her range. And if you just place all Operators within her healing range, you might as well be using an AoE Medic,
soft crystal
She can have pretty good output when underpressure with her talent
turbid badge
Yea i guess
soft crystal
But ptilopsis does the same thing anyways
soft crystal
Compare 4 with 4
tidal sedge
I feel it's worth noting Perf s2 and Paprika s2 have very different cycles
storm current
4 target mean perfumer perform better
soft crystal
Paprika gets extra bounce
storm current
since chain penalty
soft crystal
Just want to see tho
storm current
uh
latent anvil
Why's my viktorlab never load btw
soft crystal
How worse
soft crystal
storm current
kind of same cycle if s1 perfumer
soft crystal
You can eat paprika but you cant eat perfumer
limpid siren
quitter talk
soft crystal
livid delta
now compare Ptilopsis s2 with Perfumer s2 vs 10 units
soft crystal
Anyone e2ing highmorb when is3 decides to exist
livid delta
Sure
tidal sedge
Anyone e2ing highmorb when is3 decides to exist
I plan to
E2 80 m6
Though with my lmd the e2 80 part might take a bit
glass monolith
I have infinite guard chips after doing specialist ones, so might as well
Mostly for lulz
halcyon adder
Hmm with la pluma already maxed I don't see much point
Will borrow a Max one and decide afterwards
fresh copper
Anyone e2ing highmorb when is3 decides to exist
Obviously
tidal sedge
Are we gonna have another dead week..?
limpid siren
storm current
just vore monster and fog shooting machina iirc
soft crystal
Eaters
near folio
3 each?
storm current
yes
near folio
How is the vore monster pathing like?
glass monolith
3 eaters, dog, ice cream cart, forgot who else
soft crystal
Goesnaround
glass monolith
One go left, one go right, other does SPIIIIN on middle
near folio
I have finally figured it out
Leaked the steam knight on accident
I wasnt paying attention to steam knight when he used his steam punch
Which side do the roteaters go?
Do the ones on the left go left and the ones on the right go right?
glass monolith
they should march to same box as their side i think
glass monolith
i myself killed 2 trees early before they get much power, and then killed other 2 during boss stall, but it was close call because they were around 80% power 
near folio
I wonder if I should just fight 2 full power roteaters on the right side at the end
I have shamare, roberta and cuora tanking there with 2 healers
I dont think I can handle the right roteaters while also stalling steam knight
H11-4 is actually not bad
Aside from the early dog rush
near folio
H11-4 is actually not bad
Compared to H10-3
glass monolith
But fuck whoever made this first dog
near folio
I agree
limpid siren
Dies of dies
pale orchid
Ignuts this shouldn’t be news to you
near folio
is texalter still considered a Columbia character?
im considering doing nicheknights for victoriaknights and columbiaknights in the future
and I want to know if I can skip texalter for reedic
latent monolith
is texalter still considered a Columbia character?
Both versions are penguin logistics
Which counts as lungmen
opal kiln
Just check prts filter
glass monolith
italianVAonly knights
limpid siren
Guh
near folio
Both versions are penguin logistics
Place of birth is columbia
Maybe a typo in game
Unless im missing something
latent monolith
Defender nearl is not kazi op
Exusiai is not laterano
Place of birth is not necessarily their faction
limpid siren
It depends what metric you use ig
They're technically correct, texas' place of birth is columbia
If you're not record hunting, then it's up to you what factor defines if the operator is or isn't on the table
near folio
Im mainly using a very lenient metric
I just follow whats on the gamepress page
I have no idea how Cuora is part of columbia but since she is there I can use her
pale orchid
Cuora is Columbia?
latent monolith
Well if it's for your own usage then whatever you decide
latent monolith
Cuora is Columbia?
Yeah
near folio
latent monolith
But generally restrictions are based on factions
near folio
I cant wait for Puzzle and Reedic
Victoriaknights finally have a consistent vanguard and a good medic
glass monolith
I cant wait for Puzzle and Reedic
Friendship is over with Myrtle
Puzzle Stainless is my new friend
soft crystal
Saileach is victoria though
And shes a consistent vg
Also have Breeze but i doubt anyone built her
glass monolith
First flagbearer who brought flag 
storm current
lappland
glass monolith
Well i can't give much good tips at it
She is great after second promotion which is not fastest thing in the world (about 2-3 weeks assuming you didn't amass right materials from events). Being the 6* she is taking more materials than leveling other rarities.
Before second promotion she is just Texas (You will gain 1 for free for finishing mission board thingy) with more stats and some dodge.
For progression boost you can get second promotion on some 4* operator to unlock friend support as ALOT of stuff in AK can be resolved with 1 OP friend support
glass monolith
fuck, that, one, dog
glass monolith
I can't tank the boss
I run out of options 
storm latch
so even my best defenders can't tank him.
storm latch
I run out of options <:HellaKek:735650408340521020>
I mean there's like a strat to stall him with 4 different defenders
but
glass monolith
Find someone with maxed Nian
storm latch
lord 27 minutes...
glass monolith
FIrst time?
storm latch
Find someone with maxed Nian
yeah, but i'd still need skalter
storm latch
FIrst time?
nah. Definitely had one of those run don't remember for which stage tho
storm latch
oh really ?
glass monolith
When i started game there was DH outside and i spend 40 minutes stalling boss with Beagle because this idiot right here didn't knew what the fuck is Arts damage
storm latch
I'm kind of old on the game but i'm shrimp and dumb...
So i still come here when i get trouble with H stages
glass monolith
I just seen people doing Nianing here half day ago, i did something more dumb
storm latch
which skill for nian ?
scarlet ledge
hidden vigil
Guys i want an insanely good op to do H5-3 the poison realy hit at the start and i cant do anything this is MY OLD PIC of my ops so what do i need
+kroos mytrle and gravel
storm latch
Nvm i just bruteforced it
kek
I should have shut up...
forgot the rot eaters
i mean the dudes from the trees
storm latch
yeah nian worked but i just forgor the trees
well another try and the same nian just got reduced to ashes... tf
God and now nian just gets killed over and over again
just fuck my life
sonic willow
Guys i want an insanely good op to do H5-3 the poison realy hit at the start and...
Show map
sonic willow
Im having problems stalling p2 knight on that one
Easiest answer is just nian
frozen plover
Dont have her and im borrowing mlynar
near folio
The steam knight's aerial bombardment attacks a total of 8 times right?
Im planning to take it with Blemi with 2 Roberta devices
sonic willow
The steam knight's aerial bombardment attacks a total of 8 times right?
P1: 50 0
P2: 70 40 10
so 5 total
If you mean the hits didn't count them
near folio
P1: 50 0
P2: 70 40 10
so 5 total
The steam knight always triggers the P1 0 at P2 100 for me
In H11-4
sonic willow
The steam knight always triggers the P1 0 at P2 100 for me
Isn't that the same
near folio
Does it deal physical or arts damage?
left rune
I could use some kind of strategy for phantom IS2
frozen plover
Block phantom at his first stall point
soft crystal
Nah no need to block
soft crystal
Pozy and mlynar will delete
frozen plover
Done
near folio
I could use some kind of strategy for phantom IS2
Generally always take an operator that can bomb and quickly take out the dancers at the right side like Horn and just smoke through the rest of the stage
left rune
Ah I should've picked Horn
frozen plover
You can use pozy to kill the dancers but mind the placement
left rune
Though no S3 ig
left rune
You can use pozy to kill the dancers but mind the placement
Yeah that's what I'm worried about
frozen plover
The problem with using mlynar to kill phantom is his dodge
You might get unlucky
If your pozy has module you should be fine
soft crystal
Mlynar+pozy can easy get through the dodge
frozen plover
Yea then he has no dancer killers
soft crystal
Well pozy can be facing dancers
frozen plover
How?
left rune
Pozy also has the turret ig
soft crystal
Face right
frozen plover
Then she wont ignore dodge
near folio
Generally I think its a bad idea to let the dancers out of the right section
soft crystal
Pozy will not attack off skill but kroos, turret and her will make work of the dancers
near folio
Cause that's when the stage starts to get bad and you start triggering their aspd buff one by one on the mobs and they start steamrolling you
frozen plover
Fat chance
soft crystal
You can get 2 activations of pozy s3
frozen plover
The turret and kroos alone isnt killing 20+ dancers
soft crystal
No pozy will be there too
soft crystal
Just activate s3 on cd
left rune
👀
near folio
Just use s1 or s2 pozy
left rune
As fast as I'm aware
left rune
S3 Pozy is enough
near folio
S3 downtime will screw it up
frozen plover
2 ling dragons and mlynar for phantom and pray
soft crystal
S2 also has downtime
Pozy s3 on the right
When he spawns hell get damaged too by pozy and turret a little
By the time he chills on top you can put turret on top too
With mlynar on s3 schwinging
soft crystal
Its enough time to get some damage and 2 activations
near folio
That boils down to RNG dodge
Just put something to block him
frozen plover
Phantom has dodge
soft crystal
On average thats enough to take almost half of his hp
near folio
Phantom has dodge
His dodge disappears when he is blocked
soft crystal
Yeah ling sandwich it
left rune
Doesn't phantom phase through
frozen plover
Doesn't phantom phase through
Yeah, block him with 2 units
left rune
Where do I sandwich him on the map
frozen plover
Top left
near folio
Awkward Steam Knight leak
soft crystal
He dashes and gets blocked whatever is behind it
left rune
Do I have enough time to summon 2 dragons by then?
frozen plover
Yes
soft crystal
Mid should be lane held by a dragon and gnosis
frozen plover
Kill dancers asap
near folio
Do I have enough time to summon 2 dragons by then?
Instead u could drop cardigan to bait his dash then drop a dragon
left rune
Mid should be lane held by a dragon and gnosis
I have Mnt if that also works
soft crystal
I thinj e1 mountain might not suffice by himself
left rune
True
soft crystal
You can activate mlynar though
left rune
Mlynar in mid lane with ult range reaching top left
near folio
Is steam knight's aerial bombardment physical or arts damage?
left rune
I just have to make sure I kill phantom before he breaks the block right?
indigo pulsar
Is steam knight's aerial bombardment physical or arts damage?
arts
left rune
I think at least 15?
frozen plover
Show relics
soft crystal
Oh yeah youre good
near folio
Im planning to eat all the shots with just a blemishine and some help from perfumer and roberta
left rune
Relics aren't much lol give me a sec
indigo pulsar
How much damage per tick at level 1?
says 50% of his attack 8x
40% at phase 2
left rune
storm current
The main strat is grouping your units up
And use aoe medic
Since his missile basically split dmg
Also
near folio
The main strat is grouping your units up
Im using a very barebones defense on the left side which only includes Blemishine and Perfumer
So that means I space out perfumer out of the range of the bombardment
frozen plover
Pozy will hold right, youre good
storm current
Uh
near folio
Then I plan to use 1 or 2 roberta devices to help blemi with tanking the missiles
left rune
K thanks
near folio
Usually you would sack something to the second missile target
But in my strat I need my blemishine to live so she can block the last few dogs
indigo pulsar
How much damage per tick at level 1?
if it's H11-4, it's 1080 per missile in phase 1 and 864 in phase 2
near folio
My squad is very unhinged
But I think H11-4 is definitely possible since I already got to phase 2
near folio
wouldnt you use ange s2 for steamknight
Im using her to spawncamp the trucks
Also to limit the damage I do on steam knight
soft crystal
Limit?
near folio
I have a setup where I can perma stall steam knight by cycling shamare and cuora skills
near folio
Limit?
Basically to control the damage I do on it so I dont trigger his aerial bombardment too early
My strat is to deal with all the mobs first, kill 2 trees on the left, then deal with steam knight and the last 2 trees on the right last
arctic igloo
I'll try to do ls3, but probably I will be annihilated ahaha
There are too many enemies :/
near folio
What is ls3? The exp stages?
frozen plover
@left rune howd it go
frozen plover
I have a setup where I can perma stall steam knight by cycling shamare and cuora...
I was trying to do that but my shamare's e1
I probably have to come back to this in the future lmao
pale orchid
What is ls3? The exp stages?
Oh I thought he meant IS 3 lmao
left rune
<@637568930046803968> howd it go
Sorry had to do something, am still doing something 😂
frozen plover
indigo pulsar
I probably have to come back to this in the future lmao
if you have mousse, you can do a similar thing, but there may be some rng involved if you only have her at sl7
near folio
I was surprised at how possible it was to stall Steam Knight ngl
It wasnt like Manfred's ramping damage slowly catching up
But Steam Knight does have the aerial bombardment thresholds that make it harder to just nuke him
indigo pulsar
getting her to e1 isn't too expensive, and her attack debuff is pretty handy to have occasionally
pale orchid
I was surprised at how possible it was to stall Steam Knight ngl
I found manfred easier to stall for me
near folio
I found manfred easier to stall for me
Manfred was easier to delete
pale orchid
But using Spalter as main staller sort of makes thing weird
near folio
I found manfred easier to stall for me
His phase 2 damage is insane
pale orchid
Oh I mean p1
near folio
1.6k physical + 600 arts every attack
pale orchid
P2 yeah it’s easier to go ham on him
near folio
I feel if AK really wants to make bosses these days harder they should focus less on their stats and damage reduction and focus more on mechanics like EB
Mandragora, Manfred and Steam Knight are ridiculously hard bosses for restricted teams not because of their mechanics but because of how crazy their stats are
near folio
With some healer support I think she can
Actually
Maybe add more damage reduction with stainless devices
Steam Knight has increased stats in H11-4
One steam punch can oneshot my lappland even with roberta device
So each hit is around 2.5k damage
indigo pulsar
2700 x 3
near folio
Ok that makes more sense
I wonder if you can debuff steam knight's damage during aerial bombardment by dropping shamare doll at his spot
jaunty bluff
damn there's no abyssal hunter H11-4 videos on youtube.
Don't know what to type on bilibili to find such result
near folio
Im pretty sure if you add the two stainless turrets into the mix skadi can survive the steam punch
Cause we are totalling around 50% damage reduction
1350 per hit further reduced by skadi's defense
indigo pulsar
is this what you're looking for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNn2Rigo-BA
jaunty bluff
is this what you're looking for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNn2Rigo-BA
Ohhhh I'll watch this thanks
Sad I don't have Pozy and Mostima
jaunty bluff
Im pretty sure if you add the two stainless turrets into the mix skadi can survi...
Thanks, I think Imma try this as well and borrow Stainless
soft crystal
What stage
storm latch
Yeah.
storm latch
Nian worked once
but i forgot the dude from the trees at the end
got rekt
and after nian didn't worked, and i don't know why...
even tho it's the same nian.
hollow forum
that is kind of odd for nian to only work once though
did she have mod 3 and lvl 60+?
indigo pulsar
did you change the placement of any of your other operators?
storm latch
did you change the placement of any of your other operators?
nope
i just guess it's like RNG...
somehow
indigo pulsar
pretty sure she can't survive without her module
hollow forum
you're probably better off looking for a 60+ nian with mod 3
storm latch
I'll try then.
hollow forum
with that, she can live without shining, regardless of skill on or off
storm latch
But do you have module on non friend support units ?
jaunty bluff
Okay so AH buff really work damn, with medics and support Skadi can stay tanking the big guy. Left side is easy to replace with other ops, maybe a GG, Eyja, or even chalter with a defender holding mobs.
foggy grove
But do you have module on non friend support units ?
yeah
hollow forum
ye
jaunty bluff
Now I just need to E2 my whole AH 
indigo pulsar
you'd need godly skill timings if you want her to survive without her module though
hollow forum
no masteries, but you don't need it in this case since nian can tank off skill
hollow forum
though, if you have shining
you could try a maxed hoshi with mod 3
if you can find her, that is
storm latch
i got hoshi unlike nian
but never gave out masteries, same for module... and same for shining
so i think nian might be a less risky bet
hollow forum
then look for a mod 3 nian, and as long as she's level 60+ she should live
indigo pulsar
masteries aren't necessary and people who use an e2 60+ nian with module don't need to touch her skill
foggy grove
nian is a safer bet yes
storm latch
I'll just do that.
indigo pulsar
you can if you want to, it's just unnecessary since she'll survive due to her giant health pool
storm latch
when i'm finished farming defender chips.
btw quick question, Penance S3 is the best ?
of hers ?
indigo pulsar
that reminds me, is there a penance vs H11-4 steam knight?
hollow forum
haven't seen a single video w penance tanking sk
hollow forum
probably wouldn't work out that well though
latent monolith
Penance probably dies super quick and she doesn't have any trash enemies to stack
storm latch
yeah god what is the dmg of those doges
jaunty bluff
Yeah prolly works better on the left side, and AH on the right side
latent monolith
yeah god what is the dmg of those doges
840 atk physical + applies dot that does 150 arts damage per second until op receives green healing
hollow forum
gj bud
now back to 1-7 you go
storm latch
gj bud
now back to 1-7 you go
Never.
hollow forum
storm latch
now i can rejoice in having cleared all currently playable stages...
near folio
I royally effed up
I didnt realise Roberta's hp was higher than lappland
And then both my healers got bombarded to death
indigo pulsar
is your ptilopsis healing anyone aside from shamare or did the others just die to the missiles?
near folio
is your ptilopsis healing anyone aside from shamare or did the others just die t...
They died from the missiles
This was a panic redeploy after the steam knight is dead
edgy stag
whats a good support for the current cc training stage?
hollow forum
whats a good support for the current cc training stage?
depends on who you have
but typically it'll be horn and surtr doing the majority of the work
soft crystal
What is todays cc daily
hollow forum
cc9 map
soft crystal
Mlynar xd
edgy stag
i have neither. if surtr is boss killing then i can do that with mlynar
soft crystal
Imo if you already have mlynar, then borrow horn tbh
hidden axle
edgy stag
also whats a good spot for honeyberry? feel like everywhere i place her theres an enemy that walks by her and instagibs her
hollow forum
just on the right ranged tiles
at most you'll have to worry about the flowers but that'll be it
near folio
Finally I did it
H11-4 is done!
Krooster was pretty good
This clear took me 20 mins
12 mins of pure steam knight stalling
edgy stag
honestly the issue im having is the things that start running when you hit them. i have no idea how to kill them
hollow forum
honestly the issue im having is the things that start running when you hit them....
that's the thing, you don't
you stall them enough so that they die of cringe
edgy stag
how in the world do you stall them?
edgy stag
wont that stall them for like a second at most?
hollow forum
definitely way more than a second
it's common to let her stall until she gets stunned from elemental damage
and if that isn't enough, she'll be back quick enough for a 2nd round of stalling anyway
if you happen to own kafka, then even better
edgy stag
im just now sure how i can possibly stall these enemies while still killing the bosses with mlynar
the range on the nervous impairment is fucking insane
and the boss itself applies it too
turbid badge
im just now sure how i can possibly stall these enemies while still killing the ...
Use kafka
She sleeps so they slowly lose hp
edgy stag
instead of horn?
latent monolith
What exactly are you trying to do and what is your squad
Lee is good at stalling them in general since he basically ignores the stun just give him a normal medic and you're good
vital arrow
Whats the current cc stage again
hollow forum
cc9
edgy stag
cc9 i think someone said?
edgy stag
those enemies are by far the easiest part of the stage to deal with lol
edgy stag
running enemies + boss
they spawn together so its like
impossible to kill the boss in any reasonable way
turbid badge
there struggling with the screaming guys
vital arrow
For the screamers just bring gravel and kafka
edgy stag
dont have kafka so its either her or horn
hollow forum
@edgy stag as far as risk 4 goes it's like, not that bad
For the first boss, have mlynar facing down close to the left blue box
For the second boss have him here like in this ss
vital arrow
Well any 2 fast redeploy should do
edgy stag
well like how exactly should i be doing this because i have no idea how you could possibly stall them in any way that would allow mlynar to not be permanently stunned
vital arrow
Bring a wandering medic
turbid badge
What risks are u taking
vital arrow
Oh max risk
turbid badge
edgy stag
i just dont get these stages man. like half of them you can just place mountain or gavialter or thorns and basically go afk
and then the other half
are this shit
hollow forum
usually for the flowers you stall them at the bottom like in the ss I sent
turbid badge
theres also other creative ways
hollow forum
then, after the frd gets stunned, let them run to the top lane and stall them again there