strategy

[hollow forum]

[proud drift]

I think I'll just say fuck h11 and wait for texas alter

I have better shit to do than mald h11-1 stupidity

[sonic willow]

Chalter

[proud drift]

okay I'll borrow chalter

can't wait to see her die to casters

assuming I even have time to deploy her

[hollow forum]

if you have saria you can probably stack skalter ng and saria

[proud drift]

my ng isn't raised

[hollow forum]

f

[proud drift]

where does one even chalter

side face into middle?

[hollow forum]

either side face for facing front, so she helps clear one of the lanes

you could put mon3tr in the middle instead and have chalter + someone like exu hold the upper lane

[proud drift]

nah

I can't

too expensive chalter

[latent monolith]

I started with surtr bottom lane facing up to kill those two

[limpid siren]

Those two have a long wait order anyway

The timer for opening is the three mooks bottom and the second pair of casters mid

Loads of time

[hollow forum]

mlynar can do a lot of work, the problem is covering for his down time

[proud drift]

idk I found mlynar useless

[latent monolith]

I ran mlynar gavial alter middle lane

[proud drift]

because of the downtime

[latent monolith]

Mlynar would clip top

[sonic willow]

40s downtime too long?

[proud drift]

wait

the 2 casters after move instantly I forgot

I thought they stop

[hollow forum]

[astral oyster]

... i use chalter + mlynar + dorothy stall

[proud drift]

ya no

fuck h11-1

not even chalter works

texas alter will save me

[latent monolith]

This was my setup

Gavial alter just pulls the casters to her in mlynar downtime

[proud drift]

I don't have 4 of the operators there

or rather

3 of them aren't raised

maybe 5 even

cause I have no clue who is on top lane

[latent monolith]

Ifrit is largely unnecessary

Top lane is blemi but could be anyone

[hollow forum]

looks like blemi is holding top lane?

[proud drift]

and who's healing

there

[latent monolith]

Perfumer facing down

[proud drift]

well I have ptilo but eh

I don't have gavalter and ng isn't raised

I also wonder how the fuck did you set that up

[latent monolith]

Okay gavalter is kinda important

[proud drift]

so is ng

probably with module too

[latent monolith]

Surtr the first two casters

[proud drift]

so she reaches perf

[latent monolith]

Idt NG is needed but she is more comfy

This is a spawncamping setup

[hollow forum]

ng is definitely not needed

because I cleared it without

[proud drift]

meh

whoever made that stage

has warm pillows

[hollow forum]

I only made it because of horn

and mlynar

[proud drift]

maybe when I have more raised options or texas alter I can try again

[latent monolith]

I could record my opening for you if you want

[sonic willow]

rarity abuse strat

[latent monolith]

But yeah without gavial alter it's not going to work

[astral oyster]

man ppl have so much 6* and masteries ready

while me and my newbie ass have seen chalter and mlynar since forever

[proud drift]

and it's not enough because I don't have the right ones raised

[astral oyster]

what did u bring to h11-1 again?

[proud drift]

idk at this point

I deleted it from my memory

and I turned the game off

everything I could

[astral oyster]

my man in denial stage

[hollow forum]

[latent monolith]

Me but H11-4

I'm now farming skill books and chips

[hollow forum]

but really though, h11-1 is like, the 2nd hardest stage out of the 4

the other one is 11-4

[sonic willow]

Borrow giganian, easy clear

[latent monolith]

Error 404 nian not found

[hollow forum]

you could also cope with a max hoshi and shining

[astral oyster]

teta added at least 5 fren yesterday

[latent monolith]

I got like 10 friends over CC9 for lee

Esp when w2 dropped

[glass monolith]

I found S1 Cutter trying to find Skadi. I am sure you will find Nian eventually

[astral oyster]

what kinda scamge is this

looking at old autos make me cringe on how i suck

[latent monolith]

If you wanted cutter S1 you could've just asked me

[sonic willow]

My cutter is s1m3 mod3

[latent monolith]

Mine is lvl 69 m6 mod 3

[storm current]

i gave up on stall and just nuke boss instead

[astral oyster]

[latent monolith]

What do you even use to nuke 98k hp 2400 def

[sonic willow]

Fun fact, Mlynar hitting 2300def has same dps as SA hitting 0def

[storm current]

simple

art

ceobe eyja saria suzu surtr

[sonic willow]

Arts is so 2021

[latent monolith]

So ifrit astgenne surtr suzu ic

[storm current]

ange is nice too

[sonic willow]

Idk about ange

[latent monolith]

I also have the option of like mlynar pozy shamare ely

But idt it's enough

[sonic willow]

Pozy dies of cringe from 2400 defense

[storm current]

ange s2 in this case

since boss is melee, slow is really effective

[sonic willow]

Sir you forgot best steam nuker, ebengod

[storm current]

and when he fly up, ange skill cool down already

[latent monolith]

Goes to like 700 with the debuffs

[sonic willow]

Well yeah that works

[latent monolith]

It would work for nuking but I need to not die to the rest of the stage and boss missiles

[sonic willow]

Nuking steam kinda sucks cause he flies away like 7 times

[storm current]

easy

just cycle between ange and suzu for perma slow

people always talk about gavialt mlynar but no one talk about my CC1 combo

ange suzu

[astral oyster]

truly old

[glass monolith]

I arrived during CC6 and got pillar in my knee

[sonic willow]

Got what

[storm current]

he meant wild scale prob

[glass monolith]

was it cc7?

[foggy grove]

i live on 2021

i think i have gg,pass and surtr on that map

[sonic willow]

[glass monolith]

Thanks Namie for bestowing her daughter on my roster

[frozen plover]

Dying in h11-1, dont have enough damage for the middle

[hollow forum]

show squad

[sonic willow]

Oh boy

[hollow forum]

[glass monolith]

Can't you just Dorothy entire stage at this point?

[near folio]

The easy solution is to just spawncamp

[hollow forum]

is it even possible for him to do that though

[near folio]

That's how the 4* only clear works

[glass monolith]

He has Fia and Dorothy, what can possibly go wrong

[near folio]

Or he could find a way to bruteforce

[glass monolith]

Main issue is roll your shit out before they roll casters in

[near folio]

With those ops there is definitely a way to brute force

[near folio]

Just bring 3 vanguards

[glass monolith]

H stages made me finally bring Myrtle who i was avoiding because just how much she breaks my ability to play without her

[near folio]

I'm a shameless myrtle abuser

[hollow forum]

the problem is still the middle section though

I can see kal holding the bottom, and he can stack snipers + dorothy for the top

how is he supposed to do anything for the middle part

[near folio]

I rather him spawncamp the middle with kal and another defender and bomb both the mid and bottom lane with fia

[hollow forum]

that can work, I suppose

[latent monolith]

Bottom lane has like no pressure though

[near folio]

Kal is perfect for spawncamping those casters

[glass monolith]

Isn't bottom lane of H11-1 is just 40 trash mobs and few "haha funny cart, floor is lava"

[hollow forum]

it is

he could borrow mountain for that ig

[latent monolith]

Top lane has casters and those dudes that eat your ops

[hollow forum]

and focus the rest on the top and middle

[glass monolith]

Using Kal on bottom sounds overkill

By like, mile

[latent monolith]

You can just use an aoe medic bottom middle facing up and place anyone with decent damage in the bottom

[sonic willow]

Bottom mountain

[near folio]

Honestly you can probably clear the mid by spawncamping with mountain and kal tsit

[hollow forum]

I was thinking more of a mlynar borrow for middle

and if we're doing that, then kal has to solo bottom

but if we're borrowing mountain then disregard

[sonic willow]

Spawncamp with mtn thorns

[near folio]

Mountain and kal should take care of the casters and trucks no sweat

Then bottom he can just slap like 1 charger and 1 pioneer

[sonic willow]

Kal thorns oops

[near folio]

And a healer

[latent monolith]

Top lane has casters and those dudes that eat your ops

[hollow forum]

top lane should be fine if he stack snipers and dorothy

[sonic willow]

Exu + healing defender bottom should work

[glass monolith]

I did Mlynar + NG in my run, but i simply failed to come up with better strategy, also Hornless + Skill Issue + L + Ratio

[near folio]

I did Horn Mlynar

Though I would say Horn isnt the best for the map

The middle comes too fast for horn to charge up

I rather you just camp the spawn with kal and mountain

[glass monolith]

I don't want to use too much Mlynar because he is OP AF

[latent monolith]

I did this

[glass monolith]

I am rarity abuser, but at least trying to do it with style

[latent monolith]

Just needed frds to temporarily block middle for the first mlynar skill

[near folio]

I only limit myself to using 2 6 stars now

[sonic willow]

I limit myself to 12

[latent monolith]

I limit myself to 13

[near folio]

I still use all 12 slots

But only 2 6 stars

I usually refrain from using broken ops but H11-1 made me pull out mlynar

[latent monolith]

What did you do for H11-4

[near folio]

Idk I just finished H11-2

With Saria and Horn

[sonic willow]

[near folio]

But the true mvps were shamare and Roberta

[glass monolith]

Whatever this is

[scarlet ledge]

lol

hello minus

[glass monolith]

sup

[frozen plover]

Camp middle with kaltsit and mountain

Tried it, died to tanks

[near folio]

Oh the tanks

Maybe add some healer support

For mountain

[frozen plover]

I dont have enough deployments to cover every lane

[sonic willow]

Do kal + thongs instead

Do the bottom mobs drop the poison? If not, pluma probably can hold by herself

[frozen plover]

They do

[sonic willow]

Then you can do healing defender + exu

[frozen plover]

Best one i have is spot

[glass monolith]

1 character to hold bot, delete top lane by conga lane of DPS on ranged. this leaves middle bottom lane and healing

[frozen plover]

I dont have anyone who can solo bot

[sonic willow]

Doesn't hurt to try

[frozen plover]

Alright

[latent monolith]

You can place an aoe medic and have them heal bot and middle

And then any guard with good dps can go bottom

You could probably run cutter or smth

[hollow epoch]

Is it possible to clear CE-5 with those units? https://krooster.com/u/Bitey

[frozen plover]

Cant exactly heal la pluma, guess ill slap down lappland and put mines to cover leaks

[stone basalt]

I need help, I can’t beat big sad lock even if my life depends on it. Is there some sort of reliable strat to get him? I have a pretty big roster full of meta units whit the exception of water chen. I know I need the blank note btw.

[sonic willow]

Not sure but Dorothy trap spam on top probably works with fiametta or something

[frozen plover]

You need constant high dps

Try pallas, pozy, schwarz, mon3tr s3

[stone basalt]

Phys over magic?

[frozen plover]

Bear takes like 0 arts damage

[sonic willow]

Mudrock/Kal/Blaze left side
AOE Medic + Poz + Lane holder right side

[frozen plover]

If you burst the boss early you dont have to bother lane holding

[glass monolith]

H stages has hidden "DoT ground deals double damage" because fuck you ofcourse it does

[frozen plover]

You put down a medic + your burst of choice

Pozy is a good one

[stone basalt]

I’ve usually tried uncle, nearl, surtr and monte

Monster

[frozen plover]

Surtr is worthless

Mlynar isnt exactly constant dps once his s3 ends so u gonna look like a clown once his skill ends and the shield pops

[sonic willow]

Mlynar is still one of the best dps

Just use his skill with your range dps

[frozen plover]

Yeah but if you aint bursting the boss immediately he aint popping the shield

Mlynar + pozy should kill the boss

[sonic willow]

I don't think you understand how much dmg mlynar does

[latent monolith]

The shield is damage based either way you have to do the damage

[frozen plover]

Just saying that mlynar alone isnt killing it

Gonna need a +1

Oh and dont forget about the every 20 hits big boom

[sonic willow]

I think he solo dps with note but anyway

[latent monolith]

brb finding a chalice run to disprove nobody typically solos anyways mlynar is one of the top dps option

[stone basalt]

My experience was that mylnar was def not enough to pop

[latent monolith]

He wipes the common enemies too

[glass monolith]

What shield we cope around? It is nor WR event where boss make shield and explode. Chapter 11 boss just have increased defenses phase 1
(Oh i didn't notice when you changed to ending 2 copium)

[latent monolith]

Unlike say pozy

[stone basalt]

And I had to rely on him to clear the ads

[frozen plover]

Well you can build your run arouns

Mlynar pozy + aoe medic + 1 medic

[sonic willow]

Just use poz + mlynar and you should be good

[frozen plover]

Thats your bear killing squad

[glass monolith]

Big Sad Piece of Gamedesign is best boss. He is not SP locked during shield. He can just recast it if you took too long

[frozen plover]

Its a dps check boss

[sonic willow]

Real balanced

[glass monolith]

31 hp seal check boss for me

[frozen plover]

Usually fine considering is2 relics are good for damage

Should atleast get one

[glass monolith]

Unless when relics you get are for classes you don't have

[frozen plover]

[void kelp]

Spalter for mlynar?

[soft crystal]

Bloop and ethan should be enough tbh

[gilded bone]

eya is horrendously bad there, just beaten this map with 2 snipers and gladia on the left, passenger for carts and the rest of abyssals + borrowed mlynar

[void kelp]

Gummy on bagpipe tile
Gavialter on canta tile
Good enough to reach 400?

[gilded bone]

350 for sure

[hollow forum]

looks solid enough

there is the risk of fia dying because she might not kill the red dragons fast enough though, might wanna consider having a deployment slot to spare so you can heli drop canta as bait

[void kelp]

Gummy on bagpipe
Ethan on myrtle
How about this one?

[hollow forum]

that last setup was fine, but sure, this should do it

[astral oyster]

can fia bomb the red spear dudes and the draco teapots fast enough?

[hollow forum]

should be

I borrowed a 60 mod 3 s3m3 fia and she killed them fine

[astral oyster]

welp hope he doesnt fk up

[hollow forum]

this should go fine

at most he'll have to pay attention at around 365 onwards

[void kelp]

Yay

[elder flume]

someone test weedy with stain bot on ce5

im still stainless

stainlessless?

summons broke again

i thought stain bots have -1 taunt

[foggy grove]

isn't it -2?

🤔

[glass monolith]

wasn't "less likely to be attacked" is 1 because WHO THE FUCK CODE THIS?

[latent monolith]

Stainful

[foggy grove]

stained

[shrewd harness]

@glass monolith how you been doe

[glass monolith]

Alive.

[shrewd harness]

Woah so many mods since the last time im here lmao

[glass monolith]

And all of them memeing in #arknights

[hidden axle]

And juno died

Fr

[shrewd harness]

Jesus

[hidden axle]

Amigo pinged juno once
No response

[shrewd harness]

Damn where's Juno? He been good?

[hidden axle]

Heck someone even pinged yostar games
Nothing happened even then

[glass monolith]

Discord has search you know, he was chatting 3 days ago in #help

[shrewd harness]

Have there been warns n pings? Kinda miss AKO

[gentle finch]

😟

[hidden axle]

Idk #help has gone off topic more times than I can count
No one came to stop us

[inner garden]

nah some people got warned that day

[deft ingot]

Tuts for 3-3

[frigid kite]

@deft ingot

[turbid badge]

shaw sl4?

(skill level)

[vernal trellis]

hello, is Dorothy good for AA Role?

[frigid kite]

She has pretty good attack and attack speed but she won't focus drones

[glass monolith]

Well outside of part what she doesn't have priority targeting on drones

[vernal trellis]

thanks, will take note with that. Dorothy seems great if play as support/stall role, fit any squad

[cursive mango]

Got my second E2, feels good, not sure what to focus on now tho, first 6* E2?

[storm current]

Base slaves and base

[vapid jewel]

any tips in stage H11-1? How do you counter those mobs with laser staff?

[turbid badge]

NG

[latent anvil]

fast redeploy unit

[cursive mango]

Is there a handy list of ones to level?

[turbid badge]

Or burst

[latent anvil]

or wet chen but thats kinda cheating

[turbid badge]

Like Horn, Mlynar, Chalter

[storm current]

/baseskills

[tidal sedge]

Base Skills Guides

• Base Op Investment Guide: https://i.imgur.com/ZQfkqpE.png
  (Source: https://tinyurl.com/dwe6csfw)
• Teams and Combos Guide: https://tinyurl.com/3ybfa66c

[cursive mango]

[glass monolith]

i miss when discord didn't bother to compress images and that stuff was screen nuke

[tawdry temple]

Help me with annihilation please

[latent anvil]

which one

[cursive mango]

going to have to get lucky with getting a castle :l

[gentle finch]

https://youtu.be/Do0axoXSzdQ

maybe specter will make abyssal only doable

i didn't check CN clears

@sly pivot if you could only M3 one Mizuki skill what would it be

[sly pivot]

do s2 because thats useable

but s1 is cool too

s1 for afk annih

very comfy skill

but just do s2 if its only 1 m3

[gentle finch]

alright

thanks for the input

[glass monolith]

wrong chat
So anyway. How your day doing? I went burning fuel in AP-5

[sonic willow]

Sounds like not 1-7 farming

[lethal dragon]

Farming salt

[lethal dragon]

【【深海猎人H11-4】再见了，最后的蒸汽骑士（无装置）-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/BYwA3TY

[gentle finch]

pot6 gayed

[lethal dragon]

Only need max pots

[gentle finch]

gated

[lethal dragon]

Yeah

[gentle finch]

which is why I said that

[lethal dragon]

【这就是为什么我练深海猎人的原因！！！-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/oWVavjc

This one only requires p6 on spalter

[lethal dragon]

Well the problem is tight start
Specter is not helping there

You could use Texas for pot simulation

[gentle finch]

hm

@torn ice cleared playwright

was much easier once I knew the stage

I didn't leak entire run

only lost HP for that encounter where u lose 2 HP to get 8 ingots

[turbid badge]

how to getplaywroghtagain

[gentle finch]

clear the jail encounter and then clear uh

i forgot the stage name

it has 2 golems at beginning

[glass monolith]

Something something writer

[turbid badge]

real

[shrewd harness]

The what

[turbid badge]

playwright

[shrewd harness]

Ah IS2?

[gentle finch]

yea

[shrewd harness]

Get Bound By Self in Don't Disturb Them encounter on floor 2/3.(pick eavesdrop)
Pick Revenge Story encounter with 2 golems in floor 4/5 for act 1 collectibles.
Then you can pick BSL or Phantom depending on your floor 1/2 picks.(painting for BSL or normal run on floor 1/2 for Phantom)

Sorry if I'm wrong, dalao gaming with 5 fps makes it hard to use my EN brain on arknights

[latent anvil]

ayo that dont look right, isnt playwright end3

nvm im

mouthpiece and playwright sound the same

[hollow flume]

Do I take or no

[primal ore]

@gentle finch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIjI0j0t4Ew

[gentle finch]

👍

i didn't see te ping sorry

I'll watch it in a bit

[turbid badge]

iIts ur best optioj

literally

unles u really want kroos

[gentle finch]

ok so basically

you made the stage hard for yourself

[primal ore]

Is it an issue with the team in general, or is the map specific?

[gentle finch]

map specific

i mean your strat

[primal ore]

I watched a 4* clear after.
It felt weird that i actually had to pay way more attention to the rocket barages, what to do at each treshhold than that 4* variant

[gentle finch]

how many attempts did it take you

[eager gate]

I didn't expect all of the british rocket launching platforms to show up at once in h11-3
Does hg expect me to have raised defenders or something

[primal ore]

I do not know how many attempts, but roughly 4 hours in terms of time

[gentle finch]

lol

It seems to me like you were too eager to burst down the boss

[primal ore]

i felt like i had to with my lack of medics and defenders

[gentle finch]

I wasn't paying full attention cuz I was in an IS2 run but I don't think you countered the eaters either, though killing them like that is fine
could say the same with the wither tanks
the way you held left lane was awkward too, although you got it to work after 4 years

Lumen + borrowed nian can perma stall the boss

[eager gate]

Stainless devices can be targeted by allies yes? Will my Firewatch s2 target them as well or nah? I'm stainlessless

[primal ore]

what would have been an elegant way to hold left lane?

[gentle finch]

medic + gavial + saria

[turbid badge]

Uhhh

they have -taunt

if theres another enemy in range

theyll prio that

[eager gate]

But if there's only a boss and 2 turrets around it will she drop all 3 where I need them?

[turbid badge]

but pretty sure if thats the only thing theyll just drop on there but not sure

[primal ore]

Thanks.
Do you think there is a general roster build so well that it can handle all the h stages?
Or is alot of "teching" always gonna be required?

[gentle finch]

no

each H stage is unique

[turbid badge]

you can try it out i guess honestly it probably will

[gentle finch]

different squad for each

you just play the stage like once and then you plan how to clear it in subsequent runs

generally you won't clear an H stage first try

unless it's H6-4

[primal ore]

The only constant for h stages past chapter 7 was that thorns sucks

[primal ore]

Dont i need lumen to hold the boss with nian? 💀

[gentle finch]

any medic works fine

[turbid badge]

no

Just stack medics

[gentle finch]

u just need heals to counter the rot chasers

[turbid badge]

Just use like

Warf s1

[gentle finch]

as we are talking I'm doing the stage

i didn't kill boss yet

basically you need to be aware of how enemy works, what in your team can handle them most effectively, and how to time skills for waves

well that's really basic
there's a lot of other stuff that goes into clearing a hard stage in a short amount of time that would not be explained without writing a book on my part

summarizing is not my strong suite

[rough anvil]

I was trying to make thorns work on h11-4

He's trash

Can't kill anything and dies to everything

[bright swan]

oh noooo... as person who love using thorn all time

[glass monolith]

Everything suck. H is now 20% enemy stat buff instead 10%.
H11 just doubles enemy DoT piss damage silently

[bright swan]

hidden number? dman

[primal ore]

@gentle finch so i cleared it again, this time with nian.
was kinda chill like that.
Now i can cry about nian being limited

[gentle finch]

lmao

[bright swan]

wait what was nian good for

[primal ore]

stalling an enemy.
She drops and survives first steam knight punch thanks to the 3 shields.
Than she activates her skill and survives another 2 punches

[coarse aspen]

She's 3gravels in one

[gentle finch]

she can survive off skill too

infinite stall

[bright swan]

don't hoshiguma do that same job? or am I wrong?

[gentle finch]

pretty sure she dies

[storm current]

Hoshi is worse

Like much worse

[primal ore]

kyo mentioned it: she needs nian passive to survive the punch.
Without nian passive, she needs to get lucky with her passive

[bright swan]

i don't watch kyo

or didn't

[gentle finch]

nian i used had 1204 def off skill

[glass monolith]

Nian has HP of isekai truck

[gentle finch]

idk how much hoshi had but nian has a lot of HP too

[primal ore]

why is nian limited?

[storm current]

Hoshi is like 3.8k

[formal ivy]

Currently having trouble completing 7-18 with my current tactics. Waves on the second phase overwhelm too fast. Any advice?

[bright swan]

3699 = Nian
3850 = Hoshiguma

[storm current]

You forgot nian passive

[glass monolith]

Now slap Nian talent

[storm current]

Oh

You alsp forgot about module stat and trust

[primal ore]

are you already using friend supports?

[bright swan]

3699 * 1.16 = 4291

[formal ivy]

No

[gentle finch]

dalao

[bright swan]

wait why is nian only that incrase hp on stats

in trust

[storm current]

Because she is a defender?

[bright swan]

hoshiguma increases in def

and attack

[gentle finch]

are you leaking mobs or straight up dying

or both

[primal ore]

Are you willing to use friend support?
A single 6* can be a gamechanger.
Take support mlynar or surtr, debuff patriot with a mine and watch him die

[storm current]

Maxed nian has 5.2k hp

[formal ivy]

Patriot slaps anyone near them, and then my remaining units get overwhelmed.

[formal ivy]

I could probably swap out kroos for a 6 star. Not a good idea to rely on her stuns at this point, I think.

[storm current]

Cant you just borrow mlynar or kaltsit

[formal ivy]

I could borrow, but then I would feel like I've lost to Him at that point.

[primal ore]

you do not need to swap out anything.
Friend support is a 13th unit to your roster, for free.
Only downside is you can not autodeploy after, but you are probably not ever autodeploying 7-18 with that squad anyways

[turbid badge]

Yea

[turbid badge]

Yea this

Hoshiguma has 4 block module currently right

So she doesnt benefit from 20% defense while blocking

meanwhile nian and her module increases

[formal ivy]

I do have a couple of 6* though I could use. Not sure what would even survive Patriot at this point, though.

[turbid badge]

huhh

U can easily kill him, with Kal, NTRK

[primal ore]

you do not have to feel like that 👀
Patriot came way after launch, so most people that started at launch faced patriot with multiple e2 6*.
So it is fair game to bring a support

[turbid badge]

Just place a bomb

ur mudrock should hold blue box

if u give levels

[primal ore]

Is there any nian substitute for poor folk that missed limited? 💀

[turbid badge]

Yea ofc??

[tidal sedge]

Mousse or Shamare debuff

[turbid badge]

Just use atk debuff, Damage resist operators

[gentle finch]

truly a dalao player

[turbid badge]

Abjurer Sanctuary, Stainless DR turrets

[gentle finch]

my skadi tanks better than nian

[turbid badge]

Also Skalter

[gentle finch]

it's just nian has 3 block

[turbid badge]

Yea

u can also use Skadi

[gentle finch]

well

[latent anvil]

Hoshi with dodge luck

[turbid badge]

U need to build the other 3 tho

2*

[gentle finch]

skadi in this context is injected with AH drugs

and 2 medics

but she can live with one medic

[primal ore]

what is ah?

[latent anvil]

Abyssal hunter

[turbid badge]

u can also just cycle defenders

[latent anvil]

Yea was gonna say that

[turbid badge]

When he uses the big attack just swap out

[latent anvil]

Cycle a lot of random stuff

[turbid badge]

If u have surtr/specter built its even better

cuz invincbility

[storm current]

Hmm

What strat did kyo suggest people

Nian stall?

[latent anvil]

I didn't even watch Kyo guide hm

[storm current]

I just nuke him insteadwhen my hoshi die from cringe

[turbid badge]

wow now i think about it , Heidi s1 -3 block, than i can use 4 block defender and still have 1 block

[primal ore]

Use mlynar and kalsit for dps while rotating 4 defenders, to SLOWLY beat the stage

[fallen chasm]

Hey thats my strat

[turbid badge]

ah defender rotating

[fallen chasm]

Oh wait

its kyos strat

[gentle finch]

27 minutes

lmfao

[fallen chasm]

Def not 27 minutes for me lmao

Bring Red

You won't regret it

[storm current]

This is why i dont stall

[gentle finch]

I stalled

[turbid badge]

me to

i didnt bring Mlynar

[gentle finch]

I use Irene and Pallas as dps

lmfao

Angelina too

[fallen chasm]

bro if I stall imma get a heart attack from trees

[tidal sedge]

I'm enjoying this

[latent anvil]

5 medic squad

That's different

[storm current]

I just happen to have ceobe eyja saria ange suzu

[gentle finch]

that stage

[fallen chasm]

I wanna wait for Texalt lmao

[storm current]

So i just nuke

[gentle finch]

andreana is nice for that stage

[primal ore]

yea that is totally why i did not stall.
i suffered for 4hours to finally burst steamknight down because stalling is lame

[fallen chasm]

So I dont have to wait for dreadnought

redployment

[gentle finch]

I had to retry it a couple times to time gladiia skill properly

[latent anvil]

So did you beat?

[gentle finch]

he did

[latent anvil]

Oh

[formal ivy]

What is dalao?

[gentle finch]

he starts killing boss as soon as stage starts

[turbid badge]

4 hours??

wtf

[gentle finch]

🛐

pro

[turbid badge]

did u literally only have defenders attacking with medics

[gentle finch]

it means big brother (basically someone you look up to, but in the context of a game, your skill)

[turbid badge]

yea

[primal ore]

no i meaned, i needed 4 hours of trying uuntil the "burst steamknight down, no stall"-strat worked.

@turbid badge

[turbid badge]

Oh

[storm current]

[turbid badge]

lmaooi thought u had a 4 hour stall

[storm current]

Took me like 5 tries

Because pathing is fairly straight forward

[fallen chasm]

Took me 3 tries non-stall

[latent anvil]

Prob took me 30-40 minutes maybe more

[gentle finch]

only took u 4 hours cuz u wanted to make your burst strat work
which i respect

[fallen chasm]

Took me like 6 tries with stall

[formal ivy]

Ah, okay

[gentle finch]

though if you really didn't wanna stall you could've borrowed an ebenholz

[fallen chasm]

I have Eben

but no

[latent anvil]

Borrow is cheating

[fallen chasm]

he sucks

Still goat

[turbid badge]

ebenholz with all the arts amp

[fallen chasm]

but he sucks at gameplay

[gentle finch]

I borrowed nian but i can do without her as well

[formal ivy]

I don't think I'll be able to beat patriot with the team I was running.

[gentle finch]

yeah lol

[formal ivy]

Not skilled yet.

[gentle finch]

u can swap someone for surtr

[turbid badge]

You can beat it

[storm current]

What strat did kyo use?

Use mine for p1 and stall p2?

[turbid badge]

They have 2 sources of True damage

[gentle finch]

He wants to do it with his low rarity kinda squad

[turbid badge]

ohhh

whats the low rarity

[formal ivy]

I've been on this stage for months

[turbid badge]

one

[storm current]

Eh

7-18 is not a stage you should mald for months

[fallen chasm]

What stage?

[storm current]

Cuz its easy af lol

[fallen chasm]

Patriot oh

[formal ivy]

Him

[storm current]

wait until you see chapter 8

Or 10

Or 11

[fallen chasm]

Just use Penance

[primal ore]

I wish
actually in the first 30 minutes or so i tried a stall strat. But with only support cuora, gravel and silence
My brain could not fathom dropping all these dps ops to be able to do tank rotation.
So the conclusion was: i simply do not have enough build stall operators, gotta go all in on burst

[turbid badge]

there doing it w low rarity? Whats the squad

[formal ivy]

I just wanted to beat the true warrior fair and square.

[turbid badge]

The mines do enough to Kill him

[fallen chasm]

Roster?

[turbid badge]

Well first phase

[fallen chasm]

Ok I see it, have you mastered Surtr/Kal s3

Or Mountain s2

[turbid badge]

i dont think hes using those Operators

[fallen chasm]

WHY NOT

[fallen chasm]

BRUUUUUUUUH

[fallen chasm]

WHY

[turbid badge]

o snail

[fallen chasm]

WHYYY

[storm current]

No clue why you are using amiya s2 tho

[turbid badge]

maybe replace Catapult with 12f unless ur actually using her range/aoe for something

[fallen chasm]

O yeah kyo has amiya s3 strat right

[turbid badge]

yea no true damage

[gleaming lodge]

You are not supposed to tank patriot phase 1

Just destroy him with Nearl alter Skill2 and that's it

[formal ivy]

They are one of my main dps for the mob enemies. Especially those clawed ones.

[storm current]

Also wait

Im not sure

Are you intentionally not use 6*

Or

[gleaming lodge]

This looks like 🎣 to me

[formal ivy]

I was hoping to avoid using them, but I'm not against one or two.

[storm current]

You can easily do it with no 6*

But your strat is flawed

[scarlet fulcrum]

Amiya s2 has black line cross on it, that one amiya s3

[storm current]

Eh i dont use her enough

[gleaming lodge]

Why would you do that though ?
If anything you should start with an overkill squad and reduce your power slowly

[gentle finch]

lmao

[gleaming lodge]

With your ops you can most certainly 3ops 7-18

[primal ore]

Doesn't landing all mines on patriot solo phase1?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its shrimple tbh, if whole square white its s3

[turbid badge]

No

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

[primal ore]

[turbid badge]

u only have 10 mines

[gleaming lodge]

15

[cosmic dagger]

Phase 1 mine solo is normal mode methinks

[turbid badge]

Well hes 45k hp

[gleaming lodge]

Patriot has 45k HP, mines deal 3k, you have 15 mines

You do the math

[turbid badge]

Oh

[formal ivy]

It's no fun going through the story and just using super strong units to carry in a strategy game for me.

[tidal sedge]

What now

Theres more presets here than I expected

[gleaming lodge]

What are your thoughts behind this squad building then ?

[fallen chasm]

Sniper and Caster ban perhaps

[graceful bear]

I did 7-18 with phase 1 - Amiya and phase 2 throwing everything I had at Pat

[tidal sedge]

Oh. I'm illiterate

[graceful bear]

I only had 2 E2 ops

[turbid badge]

wtf brainfart i thoight they did 2k?

[tidal sedge]

I read AE conditions so carefully before this

[fallen chasm]

I did it with Surtr lmao

[gleaming lodge]

2k true damage but the 50% fragile applies before the hit

[turbid badge]

Oh

ohh icic

[gleaming lodge]

So effectively they all deal 3k

[graceful bear]

I didn't have any of the BALANS ops back then

[gentle finch]

Not as bad as banning specialists while running abyssals only

😭

[gleaming lodge]

Also iirc the mine fragile is different from other fragile effect, so it stacks with Suzu znd such

[primal ore]

https://tenor.com/view/surtrwangy-gif-22090121

7-18 gameplay in 2023:

[formal ivy]

Squad building itself is easy enough; events are free reign, but story wise I prefer to at least use most of the units that would be there for that point of the story (or at least a version I have built).

[graceful bear]

nice bilibili meme

[turbid badge]

Than bring kal

[graceful bear]

You can legit do this stage with kal, ros and amiya

[formal ivy]

Who should I swap for Kal?

[gleaming lodge]

Fair enough, but you're gonna need something to deal with Patriot phase 2
I know 3* only beats it but it is quite tight

[turbid badge]

Catapult? unless your actually using her aoe and range ,

[formal ivy]

Okay, I'll swap Catapult and try to see if anyone has a Rosemontis I can borrow.

[gleaming lodge]

Can you post your squad again?

[turbid badge]

Kal if u use s3, just destroys Patriot s1

[primal ore]

Do you think h10-3 is possible for 12 4*?
All i found was it with 13 due to support

[gleaming lodge]

4* only clears all content

E2 of course

[latent anvil]

Why do you need this info though

[gleaming lodge]

in fact 4* only is fairly strong of a niche

[primal ore]

because i might plan to suffer

[storm current]

You only need 2 6* to do the stage

Kaltsit and mountain

[primal ore]

yes, but there is a difference between using 12 or 13

[storm current]

Not solo

But ye

[formal ivy]

This is the current setup

[gleaming lodge]

I mean yeah, but you'll never need 12 if all are relatively maxed out

[gentle finch]

yeah you good now

[primal ore]

so you say h10-3 is clearable with less than 12 4* ops if they are all maxed out? 👀

[turbid badge]

I mean probably 12? even that u can optimize

We have some more 4 stars now

[gleaming lodge]

That should clear 7-18 fairly easily
Red and Kal will kill patriot p1
Mines against Sarkaz claw dudes
And please max out your Melantha

[turbid badge]

That you can use

• Modules

[primal ore]

maybe i will try when that true damage 4* comes out

[formal ivy]

I would, but I'm currently out of tickets.

[gleaming lodge]

idk mate I'm not a 4* player
Look it up on Silvergun's YouTube or Arkrec

[gleaming lodge]

You can use sanity at this point
In three tries you should be done

[formal ivy]

I'll give the new team a test run, then see about maxing melantha.

[scarlet ledge]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DA41167Vj
11 ops

[primal ore]

thanks

[scarlet ledge]

hello squid

[gleaming lodge]

Nah I mean, maxing Melantha will cost you 3 LMD here, might as well do it if you're planning on using lore-restricted teams

[storm current]

I mean squid

It actually cost like

[gleaming lodge]

That's more than I thought

[storm current]

40k ish

[gleaming lodge]

hi

[gleaming lodge]

what is 40k LMD ?
Literally one day of base prod

[primal ore]

lore restricted means fighting the blood knight with only NTR right?

[latent anvil]

Too much to waste, I'm still under 5 digit lmd after like 3 weeks

65k every day from base

[gleaming lodge]

That's your problem for raising too much stuff

[latent anvil]

Mlynar e1 23 horn e0 1

[scarlet ledge]

kek

[latent anvil]

I am so broke

[scarlet ledge]

im at 3.8m lmd

cause i lvl 3 mod nian

[livid delta]

Wtf give me

[scarlet ledge]

and e2 60 dadga

[latent anvil]

No give me

[turbid badge]

Give me

[latent anvil]

Share the wealth else

[scarlet ledge]

why my arknights looks so different?
did i install diff version

[graceful bear]

wtf 7 myrtles

[latent anvil]

Sheesh is that fiametta in the back

I like ur archettos tbh

[gleaming lodge]

I have 7M LMD

[soft crystal]

Fiametta looking plump

[scarlet ledge]

anyway
raise dadga
trust me she is good

[turbid badge]

Nice 3 Headed Ho’ol u got there on s3

[soft crystal]

😳

[scarlet ledge]

[gleaming lodge]

Playing defknights payed off

[scarlet ledge]

nice

[limpid siren]

do not trust this fella

[formal ivy]

Okay, so I can still get to phase against Patriot, but then I just fall apart.

[latent anvil]

Why you let patriot throw spear into ex wife face

Let someone else tank that tf

[storm current]

Hmm arent you going to use red to drain patriot tho

[latent anvil]

Also do you really not have anything better than those 3 stars

[formal ivy]

I was, but I needed her to kill a few down near box before Patriots shield went down.

[scarlet ledge]

hmmm

[gentle finch]

you can wait until penance drops and solo with her :tf:

jk

[latent anvil]

6 3 stars in squad clearing end of ch7

Borrow mlynar prob easier

[turbid badge]

there not using any

there trying to make it lore accurate i guess

[scarlet ledge]

oh

[latent anvil]

[scarlet ledge]

bring mlynar for lore accurate
he is always there standing

[turbid badge]

yes totally

[primal ore]

why my plants vs zombys looks so different?

[scarlet ledge]

wtf 1 sunflower

[latent anvil]

Put down a coconut cannon NOW

Coconut cannon so op

[gleaming lodge]

You need to control the choke point mate
Concentrate your forces on near the blue box

[errant juniper]

[gleaming lodge]

[formal ivy]

It's the artillery in the back that's causing me trouble on that front

Maybe I should try using some 4* instead of the 3*?

[gentle finch]

@cosmic dagger

i really don't get this gravity shit

can you explain

[storm current]

Its like wind vent from DM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1103910423763370035/image.png

[gentle finch]

cool

so if someone makes the gravity face up, and i put a unit facing up, they will get buffed?

[storm current]

Ye

You can change gravity direction too

[gentle finch]

cool

how do you know if the enemy is moving along it though

[livid delta]

Balls

[formal ivy]

Welp, I've given up for the day.

[storm current]

Uh

[livid delta]

The balls tell you what direction gravity is on

[storm current]

Mostly pathing

[gentle finch]

mm balls

[livid delta]

One of the missions requires you to bump into enemies with the balls so it would be a good idea to get used to the mechanic

[inner cobalt]

Iirc Kal can semi solo this. Just need to bait patrick spear with another op

[gentle finch]

👍

[gleaming lodge]

Projekt Red should destroy them
or mines

[formal ivy]

Projekt Red DOES destroy them. They're my main damage dealer I this map. Problem is, everyone else have no damage whatsoever.

[gleaming lodge]

nah you have Rosmo for small mobs and Kal for Sarkaz claw dudes

that's more than enough

[lethal dragon]

Then there's cw-9

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/712480242132058142.gif

[tidal sedge]

Hm. Eben is pretty fun some of these stages

S3 allows him to ignore trash to single out the rockets

[gentle finch]

why is yato so good

why does a frd kill a defense crusher in 2 second

[lethal dragon]

Well she is an. Executor

[flat sapphire]

coz arts go brrr

[sonic willow]

Balans

[novel pivot]

monster can't survive steam knight rocket rain

bad

[sharp scroll]

Does steam knight deal arts dmg?

[novel pivot]

i know rain does

but i think else is phys

[sharp scroll]

Ah I see

[turbid badge]

The punches no

Also he does super punch after 4th punch

[foggy grove]

only the rain is arts

[novel pivot]

super punch is phys innit

euenectes s3 just makes it 30% of her max hp

[near folio]

Ok wtf

H11-4 is a nightmare

[sharp scroll]

Yeah, that's what I'm having trouble with. Dunno how to stall him

[turbid badge]

Me when she dies offskill

[hollow forum]

welcome to hell

[near folio]

Also great to see steam knight one shotting my cuora with skill 2 up

[sharp scroll]

Czerny the only one that can tank him atm

[turbid badge]

Defender recycling

Or just Nian perma stall

Or surtr + defender cycling

Or AH buffed skadi

Or Shamare

[near folio]

Shamare + Roberta

[turbid badge]

Or Stainless turret DR + Shamare + Mousse

[sharp scroll]

[novel pivot]

i brought a shining and an ng

[sharp scroll]

Will e0 Roberta work?

[hollow forum]

the easiest way to do it is to find a maxed out nian and borrow

if you can find a person who has her

[turbid badge]

Uhh

[novel pivot]

i can technically m3 my nian

technically

[near folio]

You need E1 at least to get the skill that regens her devices

[sharp scroll]

Oof

[foggy grove]

you should have e1 roberta anyhow

she is a base slave

[near folio]

If you time shamare perfectly there should be no need for any roberta devices

But shes there in case you mess up

[turbid badge]

Shamare with ptilo on sl7 is 50% uptime

[sharp scroll]

Oh ok, I'll try it

[turbid badge]

Roberta gives 1 shield at e0 and e1

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

[near folio]

Holy shit why does steam knight enter base so early in H11-4

[sonic willow]

He doesn't ||if you block him||

[near folio]

The time he gives is barely enough to deal with all the shit

Also the dogs are stupid, I might have to borrow a Jaye

[gentle finch]

@cosmic dagger sorry for always pinging you for this shit but do you think S1 yato is better for bishop of the tides since he has like 70 res
she's E1

[cosmic dagger]

like the floor 3 boss?

[gentle finch]

yeah

[cosmic dagger]

s2 is prob better

all things considered

yato won't live long since the dude hits hard

[gentle finch]

ah right i forgot her S1 doesn't deliver all hits like S2 does

well you know what i mean

i didn't consider that thanks

[cosmic dagger]

no i get what you mean

s2/3 blowing her load fast is why they're much better

[gentle finch]

lmao

[cosmic dagger]

s1 hyped died when people realized its just shitty exu

[gentle finch]

i also got texalter but pretty sure her S3 would just be best since no laneholders really

besides highmore

[near folio]

Wtf the dogs in ch11 deal more damage than a healer can heal back

Does the devs expect everyone to have E2 Mountain or Jaye?

[soft crystal]

My h11-4 start has set up to gavial and shining and gavial dies if she doesnt use s2 immediately

[livid delta]

Just slow them and kill with marksman?

[soft crystal]

[hollow forum]

even mountain can barely survive a dog

and without any additional dps he'd just die

[soft crystal]

H11-4 expects you to have a ton of e2 ops so

It is what it is.

[livid delta]

There's video with Jessica + May duo dogs lol

[gentle finch]

for me I just use bagpipe S3 to kill the first dog while myrtle gets shit
then I can just slap gavial and Saria down together

[soft crystal]

Duo

[gentle finch]

later on i put lumen

they held entire side no problem

[livid delta]

[sonic willow]

Those are elite enemies anyway

[hollow forum]

kal can actually hold the lane pretty well by herself too

[soft crystal]

You are givrn enough dp to deal with them

[cosmic dagger]

its so surreal that the doggos that had such a high threat can be easily dealt with

by the new frds

phantom who?

[sonic willow]

The right side has so little pressure for so long

[soft crystal]

Phantom can deal with a dog

[sonic willow]

I had saileach holding that Lane, only had to drop someone else cause I need dp

[livid delta]

Just shoot

[near folio]

I hate how steam knight moves with the wither tanks

Makes stalling him impossible

[foggy grove]

bubble>>>cuora confirmed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeKfQhVQp50&ab_channel=Dr.Silvergun

[near folio]

Unless they is some way to spawnkill the tanks

[sonic willow]

Use horse boi

[hollow forum]

if you have firewatch then s2 can bomb a pretty good chunk of health from them

[near folio]

Maybe S2 Horn?

[turbid badge]

I used blemishine to hold left

[cosmic dagger]

thats just untrue lmao

[near folio]

Im not sure if phantom can do it

[hollow forum]

then why not just s3 at that point

it's not like they move immediately after spawning in

[near folio]

Dog two shots him

[near folio]

S2 has a faster cycle no?

[gentle finch]

Fuck

[near folio]

They dont but after the first wave moves the next ones will keep coming

[cosmic dagger]

i just tried to splitbox with clone

[gentle finch]

I leaked the shrimp

[turbid badge]

did u fail

[cosmic dagger]

and even then he doesnt kill

[turbid badge]

Oh

[gentle finch]

nah i won with one HP

[cosmic dagger]

my phantom is s2m3 mod3 so stats are not an issue here

he just sucks cock

[turbid badge]

Poop dos

dps

[gentle finch]

does the shrimp just revive unless u kill bishop

[cosmic dagger]

yeah

you have to kill both

[gentle finch]

pain

[turbid badge]

doble the work

[cosmic dagger]

its not that bad, lower boss is really squishy

[gentle finch]

yeah i killed him like 8 times

lmfao

[cosmic dagger]

so the challenge is to survive the onslaught until you can kill top boss

[gentle finch]

?

[cosmic dagger]

go left

[soft crystal]

Heh

I tried

[cosmic dagger]

right side is sp upon getting hit

[soft crystal]

One hit left

[cosmic dagger]

which is also quite strong

[gentle finch]

left it os

[cosmic dagger]

but tulip is just stronger

[gentle finch]

is*

what does it do

oh

[cosmic dagger]

effectively literator talent

[gentle finch]

I'm actually a clown

[cosmic dagger]

but 60% atk over 60s

for everyone

[gentle finch]

I took right by accident

LOL

[cosmic dagger]

no sweat it's also strong

[gentle finch]

I'm running double frd

[cosmic dagger]

ya exactly even if you tank with clone he doesnt kill

so its an L either way

[gentle finch]

but shouldn't be too bad

hopefully

[cosmic dagger]

double frd is the way to go for is3

[gentle finch]

[cosmic dagger]

maybe not so much texas because krooster opener is so dominant

but for caster specialist team, its just so strong to be able to run both frd

[gentle finch]

yeah yato feels nice

they're both too good

I'll build krooster on EN

[turbid badge]

I like Yato

[gentle finch]

Since I'm gonna run 5* only anyways

[near folio]

It would be funny if phantom gets a module that reduces his clone redeployment timer to 10 seconds

[gentle finch]

he'd still be outdone by other frd ngl

but would be nice

[cosmic dagger]

it would be good enough for clone to match his redeploy

even 18s is ok

i dont need 16s

but no cant have shit in detroit

[gentle finch]

😭

[near folio]

😭

[soft crystal]

Attempt 2

[near folio]

How the great has fallen

[coarse aspen]

He sure is affectionate with that dog

[sonic willow]

Never been great

[soft crystal]

Hes giving it pets

[coarse aspen]

Anyone know it's name?

[gentle finch]

what's name

whose

[coarse aspen]

??the dog?

[hollow forum]

rotchaser, apparently

[coarse aspen]

I'll call him rotch from now on

[near folio]

Funny how this single dog can solo 95% of the arknights roster

[gentle finch]

Rochy