strategy

[gentle finch]

the only thing i have to offer is my maxed spalter

[latent anvil]

most my fl are players i added long ago

so i dont wanna remove

[gentle finch]

same

i always see them in RR

[latent anvil]

nobody inactive either

did hg ever give reason why not increase friend list limit

[gentle finch]

the one inactive guy has an operator no one else has up

so i keep him

[turbid badge]

Xd

[latent anvil]

and i dont really wanna cull low level player either

[civic nest]

i have 1 slot left
i have no friend

fun

[turbid badge]

same i have 49/50

[gentle finch]

maybe one day someone will remove me

[latent anvil]

who screams "i like this place" in base (at least thats what theyre saying in cn idk if it the same for other language)

[turbid badge]

i really wnjoy the people with wacky units as support it makes IS2 more enjoyable

[gentle finch]

yeah

[latent anvil]

i got uh, heidi ling and spatula

[civic nest]

my mizuki s1m3 actually being used🔥

[gentle finch]

I used it once

[civic nest]

hot

[gentle finch]

some other guy has an M9 one so I usually take that for IS2 though

[turbid badge]

feetus had mizkui up?

[civic nest]

yes

i think

should also put tachanka up

[turbid badge]

ye i remember ur tachanka

[civic nest]

it was a good investment

[turbid badge]

no skin tagcnka

[latent anvil]

tachancjk has skin?

[civic nest]

yea

[turbid badge]

Yea

[civic nest]

lord skin

[turbid badge]

Lord skinn

[civic nest]

i was broke 😔

[latent anvil]

i dont have

[turbid badge]

it has a christmas tree in the back

[latent anvil]

i see it now

[turbid badge]

skin acctualy real

[latent anvil]

when rerun, when nightmare skin comes back?

[sonic willow]

Finally done with this accursed map, all it took was a gigachad nian borrow and clear 1st try

[gentle finch]

pro

[civic nest]

pro

[gentle finch]

nian truly cheesed

[civic nest]

i don’t even have nian

[gentle finch]

borrow

[civic nest]

fuck that

i’m gonna borrow a leizi

[livid delta]

Maybe I should mod3 my nian

[latent anvil]

i should mod2 it, but im already done the stage

[sonic willow]

For 1 stage,worth

[livid delta]

What about cc12

[latent anvil]

eh cliffheart basically solo that stage

[sonic willow]

2 stage!? Double value

[turbid badge]

i was thinking only doing mod 2 but ,u needed mod 3 cuz 3sp per shield is 9 and its like a almost instnat s2 proq so i went mod 3

[latent anvil]

i cycled random stuff, happened to work out

[livid delta]

Are you guys using nian or Hoshi for RA

[orchid marlin]

Anyone else using Chen with water cannon as support to get carried every fight?

[latent anvil]

ra

[sonic willow]

Dk what RA is

[cosmic dagger]

Hoshi is better for RA

[latent anvil]

think thats the reason i dont bring my own to every stage, because she make the game a bit too easy. good for newer player to win tho

[cosmic dagger]

Since it's no longer about oneshot prevention but long term stalling

[sonic willow]

I bring my own Chen but she stronk yeah

[turbid badge]

ill just use ethan

he will perma stall without block

trust

[livid delta]

Hmm what if I main block with Hoshi and support with Nian s3

Big brain?? or big dumb??

[sonic willow]

Only one way to find out

[gentle finch]

heh

[cosmic dagger]

I think I was doing some really sussy shit with shamare hoshi warf mousse or whatever

But Ethan is unironically a thing

[halcyon adder]

What's ra?

[cosmic dagger]

There was a Ethan manticore weedy guide

[gentle finch]

cc12 boss i think

[halcyon adder]

Ah

[gentle finch]

idk if RA is an acronym for his name or if it's short for red avenger

or maybe it's not about cc12

[livid delta]

Reclamation algorithm

[cosmic dagger]

cc12 and facetanking

Matchmade in... Hell?

[proud drift]

Does bind prevent autoattacks

Despite being blocked

[gentle finch]

is this an is3 boss

[cosmic dagger]

It's a special mode

Super clean UI, kinda dreadful gameplay loop

[gentle finch]

seasonal gammode

is that the Minecraft shit

[cosmic dagger]

Lots of experimental stuff

Yea

[indigo pulsar]

bind only affects movement, if you bind a ranged enemy, you can see they'll still snipe whoever's nearby

[gentle finch]

didn't know it was called that

cool

[cosmic dagger]

The Minecraft clash of clans mode

[hollow forum]

Good riddance

[gentle finch]

gj

[hollow forum]

now back to the salt farm i go

[livid delta]

Back in cc#barrenlands i use helidrop nian s3 and cycled silverash s3 and matched it to wave timings

Now everything has like 40sp

[scarlet ledge]

ra zombie

[livid delta]

Leite

Should I buy doro

[scarlet ledge]

sure

buy jerboa

[livid delta]

And clone with mumu

[gentle finch]

yes

do it

[inner cobalt]

Can u clone ling?

[gentle finch]

yes

[livid delta]

Ok

[gentle finch]

she's an operator

of course you can clone her!!!

[scarlet ledge]

i been playing too much pvz2

[inner cobalt]

But like

Do u get moar dragons?

[scarlet ledge]

i can do 1p relay on pvz2

[inner cobalt]

[scarlet ledge]

i have lots of frd there

[livid delta]

Wtf pro

[tidal sedge]

Hm. I should do ch 11 stages

[scarlet ledge]

sure

[tidal sedge]

Not sure what sort of restrictions to do though. Only decided on borrowing Dagda every stage and using Iris because of her gorgeous new threads.

[scarlet ledge]

oh nice

[latent anvil]

Pvz2

Is that plants vs zombies

[livid delta]

You should use indra

For ch11

[scarlet ledge]

i use dadga for h11-4

she shredded doggies

[tidal sedge]

Don't have her raised, and the Dagda borrowing is non-negotiable

[livid delta]

Monochrome team

[scarlet ledge]

@livid delta i been farming salt

at 11-15

[livid delta]

[scarlet ledge]

i have 30

[livid delta]

Me farming rock still

[lethal dragon]

Fucking finally

I DID IT

[livid delta]

[scarlet ledge]

yuu so pro

when h11-4

[lethal dragon]

Just need to play at X1 speed to get 1 extra Frame to trigger spalter extra attack

[lethal dragon]

At my grave

🪦

[latent anvil]

Yuu not beat 11-4 yet?

[scarlet ledge]

@livid delta my rock is still ok

[lethal dragon]

Bruh i did right after it opened

[foggy grove]

[lethal dragon]

Took me 2 hours

[latent anvil]

Oh yeah I forgot

[lethal dragon]

I suck

[latent anvil]

When I was actually playing it took me like 30-40 min maybe more

[scarlet ledge]

ngl

my blue chug jug is low

75

[livid delta]

I ran out

[scarlet ledge]

nice t5

[turbid badge]

🦕

[latent anvil]

I have new idea

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye

[latent anvil]

I just farm rock on alt

And see how high I go

[scarlet ledge]

imma finish 11-20 on alt

lmfao

[latent anvil]

No event no nothing, just rock on alt

[lethal dragon]

Lmao
"That tickled"

[inner cobalt]

About as much as u can make with ur 1k t2s

[latent anvil]

Who has record for most rock inventory

[turbid badge]

1-7 farming with potions

[scarlet ledge]

idk ask danbo

[inner cobalt]

Reject 1-7

Do 10-6 instead

[latent anvil]

ew

[scarlet ledge]

i only farm on 1-7

[inner cobalt]

[scarlet ledge]

when my t2 is low

[turbid badge]

I need gold though

[scarlet ledge]

and farmed it to 1k

[lethal dragon]

Yoo???

Thanks

[turbid badge]

I need side drops

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye yuu

[lethal dragon]

Now lemme check auto

[scarlet ledge]

i mod 3 croiss

[lethal dragon]

Quaso?

[scarlet ledge]

and krooster

[turbid badge]

yeah long way from true victory

[inner cobalt]

10-6 has t3 and t4 side drops

[latent anvil]

My auto on h11-4 is so bad it fails so fast

[lethal dragon]

10-6 believers rise

[turbid badge]

but I need normal T0 side drops

[main halo]

It's hell

I know

[inner cobalt]

That's L

[tidal sedge]

I'm part of the 10-6 club now. I don't have the time for 1-7 hell anymore.

[scarlet ledge]

i still farm on 1-7

[livid delta]

I have to do 1-7

[scarlet ledge]

to make my t2 to 1k

[latent anvil]

Genuinely unfathomable how trash 1-7 farming is

[lethal dragon]

I am 99% sure that my auto gonna fail

[livid delta]

It gives me time to play on my cn account

[latent anvil]

So painful

[turbid badge]

I do well watching something so I can feel as if the time goes faster enter enter

[livid delta]

If I do 10-6 I use my sanity too fast

[latent anvil]

This is best I can do teta

[turbid badge]

does that mount mountain even get anyone

[inner cobalt]

Not even mag solo smh

[scarlet ledge]

eww

not solo mag

[latent anvil]

Mountain kills all first

I don't even own mag

[inner cobalt]

[scarlet ledge]

ur cringe

[main halo]

I think I should raise Cantabile

[latent anvil]

Oh okay

[main halo]

I got her pot 6

[turbid badge]

i'm using her too I like her artist

[scarlet ledge]

ok time to finish 11-20 on alt

[latent anvil]

I like to use lots of ops based on their hair

[lethal dragon]

?? It actually worked???

Wtf

Sorry for doubting in you prts

[livid delta]

[turbid badge]

do you use the baldoperator

[main halo]

What's Gladiia doing?

[latent anvil]

Durin?

[lethal dragon]

Healing

[main halo]

Who's she attacking with that?

[lethal dragon]

Our mom

I mean all mobs are cleared now

Bruh

She kills artillery and carts

@main halo

[turbid badge]

WOWTHATISAWESOME

[lethal dragon]

Did another auto just for you

[main halo]

I mean that's pretty funny

Also you auto with AH team?

Man Gladiia really makes AH team top of the universe

[lethal dragon]

Andreana is actually good guys
Raise her

[lethal dragon]

Eh nah
I was just checking

[gentle finch]

🔥

[tidal sedge]

Hmm. Siege to enable Dagda sounds fun

Maybe a Victoria biased team will be a fun restriction

[limpid siren]

Wdym to enable dagda

[tidal sedge]

Dagda's talent of getting atk for enemies killed near Glasgow ops

[limpid siren]

[turbid badge]

she can enable herself

[limpid siren]

Not every stage sends her enough fodder though

I think is what lurker means

[turbid badge]

[livid delta]

Morgan waiting room

[tidal sedge]

It's also a for-fun thing.

[livid delta]

[limpid siren]

It makes me realise i never tested if you can double count enemies

[tidal sedge]

Hmm. I should try that.

[scarlet ledge]

ok 1-7 time

[tidal sedge]

Huh. A preset Heidi

[sonic willow]

Wait... You did 11-20 after h stages?

[scarlet ledge]

[tidal sedge]

is there anyway doing h11-1 with one 6* only?

[livid delta]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1KN4y1w76s/

[tidal sedge]

hmm let see

because I saw only Mylnar and Chalter video

thx u this video kinda give me some idea

[livid delta]

if you got to h11-1 with only one 6* built idk what you're doing

[astral oyster]

ngl its really hard

timing is too tight

[livid delta]

It's not a guide, it's a showcase lol

[tidal sedge]

Look it is not like I want 1 6* only I cna just use more 6* if I want

[astral oyster]

i remember someone asked for 1 6* carry for H11-1 and was responded with this vid lmao

[livid delta]

they're asking for too much

[tidal sedge]

What the fuck is this enemy density

[livid delta]

it's the siege second mod showcase stage

[astral oyster]

reed alter showcase

[turbid badge]

its the chongyue showcase

[tidal sedge]

the one make every enemies exploded in few second video?

[astral oyster]

yea

[pliant furnace]

is mostima s2 still worth using?

[latent monolith]

You can also showcase lee or horn there

[livid delta]

Texas alter literally about to drop

[latent monolith]

It's basically LS4 pro

[astral oyster]

mostima herself is not worth using

[tidal sedge]

Most people gonna said like this: Mostima is the worst Aoe caster.

[astral oyster]

sry i dont sugar coat stuff

[livid delta]

I don't even dislike Mostima but you can't look at this and be like, oh yeah Mostima s2 is great

[tidal sedge]

I am glad I got Ifrit in my tag not blue berry.

[tidal sedge]

?

[signal granite]

Even stainless also cant save her cycle

[livid delta]

then there's this one

[tidal sedge]

It is not even on global yet

[tidal sedge]

Yea 110 SP the skill is so long to charge(s3)

[livid delta]

[tidal sedge]

I saw so many meme about this

[dense stone]

does lumen heal elemental damage? not clear on that

[livid delta]

he doesn't

[pliant furnace]

oh wow hope i can play her some day

[livid delta]

April 1st

[pliant furnace]

conviction powercreep

no more 50/50

[tidal sedge]

Fuck it, I'm bringing Ros for this

[astral oyster]

strongest stun button fr

[weary perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaxZGjHbsI&ab_channel=b8702131

Because I don't have one.

[tidal sedge]

She is welfare of chapter 11

So u can have her when u play chapter11

[weary perch]

yep. her last pot can be gotten after H11-4

[proud drift]

I like the specification

"NO GOLDENGLOW"

[astral oyster]

Anti Namie frfr

[tidal sedge]

Namie has entered the chat.

[halcyon adder]

No gg but all six stars regardless

[fallen chasm]

No GG? Thats specific

[weary perch]

yeah, was kinda disappointed when Kyo said the strat was specific to some operators, so I thought which one could substitute for Goldenglow.

[fallen chasm]

Surtr can sub

But needs some very good timing

[tidal sedge]

Well if u have her.

Not anyone has her.

[halcyon adder]

I don't think gg is even important

[tidal sedge]

I don’t have her sadge.

[weary perch]

I used Surtr as a pinch hitter and Tree lumberjack.

[fallen chasm]

I tried again just now and Surtr cant kill the trees when I was stalling p1

Surtr open?!

[turbid badge]

[signal granite]

Just dont kill those tree too late

[fallen chasm]

I actually had to double it with Surtr and ntr when stalling p1

[weary perch]

Good one. Need to kill as many trees as soon as possible so need OPs that can double duty.

[tidal sedge]

U have to stall boss and kill tree at the same time.

[weary perch]

Exactly. Even the last one was a pain.

[fallen chasm]

I suppose chen would be one of them

[astral oyster]

if i can use mlnar as solo carry u can too

[signal granite]

Those mines

[fallen chasm]

Eww more like stainless+mlynar carry

[tidal sedge]

Hmm

[astral oyster]

i dont have skalter need to improvise

[fallen chasm]

That boss charged attack hit hard

[weary perch]

I needed an arts damage for the steam knight's first stage, Mlynar can't do it at first.

[fallen chasm]

I just used Hoshi stall lmao

[astral oyster]

i stalled that shitty ass with nian + stainless

[fallen chasm]

Last time I killed to fast

And trees came out

And I had a heart attack

[astral oyster]

i waited his first phase for 5 min with 2x speed btw

[pliant furnace]

is h11-4 hard?

[fallen chasm]

Yes and no

[weary perch]

Hardest in the chapter

[fallen chasm]

Its simple

[pliant furnace]

is it harder than h11-1

[fallen chasm]

But its basically dps check

[astral oyster]

[fallen chasm]

imo H11-1 was harder

but H11-4 not that easy

[weary perch]

Breeze through H11-1 to 3 with Mlynar

[pliant furnace]

h11-1 was such a pain i reset so many times till i just borrow chalter

[hollow forum]

h11-1 was harder, but not by much I'd say

[fallen chasm]

I hated ch10 hell stages more

[night rivet]

arty

[pliant furnace]

i just abuse true dmg in ch 10

kal borrow carried

[signal granite]

I think no for boss or cannon but those extra condition

[tidal sedge]

Adverse mode especially 10-11 10-15 and 10-19

[fallen chasm]

Meant the hell stages

but ok

[tidal sedge]

Well I have to use Chalter for 10-11 and 10-15

[fallen chasm]

nonono

[tidal sedge]

Of course borrowed

[fallen chasm]

I mean the ones after the normal stages

The red ones

[pliant furnace]

is there anyone whos like skadi ntr and surtr

[tidal sedge]

Ohh

That even more hell

[fallen chasm]

Skadi, ntr, Surtr lmao

[fallen chasm]

Ch10 Normal Stages piss easy lmao

[tidal sedge]

3 woman for 3 different type of dmg and 3 boss slayers

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

I thought u talking about H stage

[pliant furnace]

so no one else does stupid high dmg tanky and helidroppable?

[fallen chasm]

I mean those are dreadnaughts
Mlynar, Chalter, SA are some options that are high dmg but require more planning...

[tidal sedge]

I did with Skadi but only in 10-19 or something

[weary perch]

I use NTR on helidrop nearly all the time

[tidal sedge]

Because why not?

[hollow forum]

why are you even asking for that anyway, for h11-4?

[pliant furnace]

yes

[night rivet]

Uhm borrow Nian?

[fallen chasm]

idk i rarity aboosed that stage

[hollow forum]

then you'll be severely disappointed

[astral oyster]

full AH buffed skadi

[fallen chasm]

Helidrops only for trees tbh

[tidal sedge]

Different subclass Lordguard and Dreadknought

[fallen chasm]

Stall out the boss would be my advice

[pliant furnace]

why

[fallen chasm]

Boss tanky

Surtr 1 deployment probs half hp p1

[pliant furnace]

i dont even have any main defender built

[weary perch]

BTW, Nightingale's cage will attract the Steam Knight's rockets.

[fallen chasm]

Yeah you cant helidrop boss, he hits hard

[hollow forum]

because no one fits your description unless you have the full AH squad

otherwise, you either borrow a maxed out Nian / Hoshi and shining combo, or you cycle defenders all day

[fallen chasm]

Or use red

Red stun very effective for p1

[hollow forum]

only works for phase 1

so doesn't help that much

[fallen chasm]

Yes so you destroy all trees

And set up all your arts dpses during stall period

And basically burst down p2

ez

p2 aint too hard if you properly set up

[weary perch]

P2 not bad if you have maxed tanky defenders

[pliant furnace]

wtf the boss starts in the middle?

[hollow forum]

he walks around

[pliant furnace]

wtf the 1st dog owned me

[fallen chasm]

Mountain can stall iirc, or not

idk

[weary perch]

he does a tour of the map twice before going to the right exit

[fallen chasm]

I used kalstit

[hollow forum]

mountain barely lives through the dog

kal will solo the lane fine

[astral oyster]

mountain will die when 2nd doge come

[fallen chasm]

aiya just mlynar

or chalter

[weary perch]

the dog has an arts damage aura. You can use Nightingale's status resist to help.

[hollow forum]

he'll live if you have someone next to him for extra dps

but yeah, he'll die the second anything else comes with the dogs

[astral oyster]

dorothy better lane holder than mtn frfr dont mind the extra dp cost

[pliant furnace]

holy shit this boss hits hella hard

[weary perch]

I just love killing trees with Ifrit. Fire and wood come together naturally.

[hollow forum]

unless you have a maxed out Nian with mod 3 don't expect anyone to tank him and live

[somber falcon]

2160 phys dmg, enjoy

[weary perch]

I just keep swapping Hoshi, Nian and Surtr

[hollow forum]

if you like to cope with dodge then you can go for Hoshi ig

unless you have shining to pair with her then she'll work

[pliant furnace]

how high is this things def

[turbid badge]

2.5k

iirc

40 res

[somber falcon]

Just use sham to help tank

[turbid badge]

yea

atk debuff makes it 1.8k

[pliant furnace]

if only my sham wasnt e2lv1 with no masteries

[hollow forum]

and don't forget the trees either, or you might end up crying

[weary perch]

And don't forget to use Allerdale's skill to protect your squad from the Steam Knight at the right moment.

[turbid badge]

With ptilo its 50% uptime

if its sl7

[pliant furnace]

can i chalter him

i dont like stalling

[hollow forum]

I mean, you can

but she won't be doing much

[pliant furnace]

and i got no defenders raised to stall with anyways

[somber falcon]

You kinda have to stall a bit either way tho
He doesn't stay still much

[pliant furnace]

except mudrock ig

[hollow forum]

who do you even have available anyway

what's your roster looking like

[weary perch]

I managed to do it with Hoshi at E2 60 and Nian at E2 55

[graceful bear]

Fun Steam Knight Facts: His piledriver is coded so that if Spalter transforms while he's doing the windup, the attack will still kill the substitute

I am going to do something bad

I am going to use blue woman

[sonic willow]

Borrow max nian

[pliant furnace]

ill do this some other time, do i lose anything

like the rewards arent time gated right

[tidal sedge]

Hmm. I'm having trouble getting reads on these maps so far.

I feel like I'm fighting with stats more than understanding what's going on.

[graceful bear]

the rewards are first clear OP and a medal

lmao

[hollow forum]

other than the fact that you don't get free resets after the event's done, not really

[sonic willow]

Enemies hit for a shitton yeah

[hollow forum]

like simple literally told you, borrow a maxed out Nian and call it a day

[pliant furnace]

true....

i dont have anyone in my fl with nian and my fl is full

[graceful bear]

doesn't Nian die if pilebunker hits off-skill?

[hollow forum]

with mod 3 s2, she can tank off skill just fine

[pliant furnace]

how do u hold the left side anyway

[astral oyster]

need max lvl 90 btw

[hollow forum]

you have kaltsit?

[pliant furnace]

no

[somber falcon]

Mountain + medic + chetto for me

[weary perch]

It's good to have a friend here in Discord you can pm to request to have Nian in Support

[pliant furnace]

halc u got nian max for some weird reason?

[somber falcon]

Not modded or maxed yet sadly

[hollow forum]

I borrowed teta's nian, e2 66 mod 3 with only s2m1

lived perfectly fine

[graceful bear]

🤔 logically shouldn't Cuora be fine too since she has similar values and S2?

[sonic willow]

I also borrow teta's but I had shining and skalter

[astral oyster]

mine cant mine need stainless turret DR

[somber falcon]

Got maxed matoi if you want tho
She can tank at least a full cycle atk

Should be able to permastall with shamare but cba to retry the stage

[hollow forum]

I don't even have those

I had to cope with gavial sus and silence

[weary perch]

Nian has a trait that boosts defender's Max HP just by being in the squad.

[pliant furnace]

i should just purge my friendslist

[sonic willow]

S2 isn't infinite duration

[graceful bear]

I mean both S2 and off-skill

[sonic willow]

She dies I'm p sure

[graceful bear]

Nian gets 21% + 20% from mod3 and Cuora gets 18% from talent and 20% from mod

I know

[pliant furnace]

my units still die with vibrator active

[graceful bear]

So the 12% max health is what saves Nian?

[sonic willow]

Also being a 6star

[pliant furnace]

why would that change anything?

i mean better raw stats ig

[weary perch]

I see it as a delay to keep them alive till the next defender is ready to tap in.

[sonic willow]

Have you never compared stats between rarity

[pliant furnace]

can gravel tank sk

[graceful bear]

It never came up that often

Gravel can actually tank a SK cycle

with some masteries and mod levels

[pliant furnace]

welp mine is e160

[latent monolith]

Nian is 3699+400 base hp, 726+70 def, cuora has 3105 HP 690+75 def

It's a 1k hp difference in base stats

[pliant furnace]

can i freeze/stun/whatever the boss

[astral oyster]

phase 1 probably when shield off phase 2 no

[graceful bear]

lol
so if I'm Cuora tanking I NEED Mousse to go and debuff the boss

[hollow forum]

you can stun, during phase 1

not phase 2

[latent monolith]

You can freeze/stun the boss if he's not in the enhanced state, which he enters periodically in phase 1 and is always on in phase 2

It's displayed as a shield and he moves faster

[graceful bear]

shame on me I guess for neglecting my defensive units in favor of unga bunga schwing schwing ones

[sonic willow]

Just borrow

[graceful bear]

am trying to friend people with Nians and shit

by the way how are you guys clearing the trees on the map?

[hollow forum]

kal + mlynar during the stall period

but that's because my nian was comfortably tanking SK

[somber falcon]

Suzu + surtr after they woke up

[sonic willow]

Surtr + nearl

[graceful bear]

kal can handle it with another unit helping

[pliant furnace]

oh so like kal monster + ifrit or something

[hollow forum]

he doesn't have kal though

and if he's borrowing nian is his best chance

unless he wants to cycle units ig

[graceful bear]

I think I can cycle Spalter, Gravel, and Ling dragons to stall the boss

[hollow forum]

that sounds like an interesting setup

[graceful bear]

problem is then the damage is so high the boss will probably hit second phase and die before I can clear out the trees

[pliant furnace]

can i shift the boss

[hollow forum]

don't even think about that

[graceful bear]

tho I do have Surtr and Mlynar so I can probably just kill the doods at the end

[hollow forum]

the trees?

they're pretty chonky at the end

[graceful bear]

yeah, the tree people at 100% power

[hollow forum]

yeah that's not a very good idea chief

[graceful bear]

man, CC8 was easier

[hollow forum]

I don't even think mlynar can one cycle a tree by himself by that point

[sonic willow]

Boss is literal pile of metal but you can try

[graceful bear]

weight 10

lmao

I think I'll just raise Mousse

wait I have shamare

[sonic willow]

Mousse will kill the boss

[graceful bear]

fug

[glass monolith]

Just 60% damage reduction him 4head

[turbid badge]

thats dtill a skadi snh

whale

[graceful bear]

Skadi doesn't need Stainless to tank SK lmao

[turbid badge]

yeah but u need Spalter

[glass monolith]

8100 damage, I'm not taking chances

[graceful bear]

I have spalter

[turbid badge]

max mod spalter , skadi

and glaadia module 2

[pliant furnace]

i cant even get to p2

skill issue at its finest

[graceful bear]

wait shit it's mod Y isn't it for spalter?

[turbid badge]

U need the Hp% buff one on spalter and SKadi

to tank

and Glaadia mod 2

if not she just gets destroyed

[pliant furnace]

do i need kal s2 to hold left?

[hollow forum]

not necessarily

s3 will do fine

[somber falcon]

If you're already bringing kal s3 she's better off used for steam knight rather than left lane imo

[hollow forum]

at the start of the stage she does fine, and she'll be good for SK / the trees later as well

[near folio]

Does the devourer only do its special move once?

Like if you stun it then it wont be able to devour again?

[hollow forum]

idk about stun or ccs on them

but the whole vore thing only happens once, since the operator that gets vored can't be deployed until the guys is killed

[near folio]

I see

Also holy crap how do you tank the steam knight's flying attack in p2? Without allerdale's guard my healers always die

H11-2

[hollow forum]

what healers do you have

and generally it's a good idea to have someone to bait one of the 2 rocket volleys from far away

[glass monolith]

Rocket does 1080, just in case you want to have healer be able to tank 2160 arts damage, so NG if you have healers tank

[graceful bear]

Do attack down effects stack?

[glass monolith]

Multiplicatively most likely

Not like we have much of them

[sly drift]

You can relay your defenders actually

[lethal dragon]

Gather multiple operators to split dmg

[sly drift]

Or they will die together

[graceful bear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0FvJiDf_ec
Huh
huh
That's how you hold left side

Core is Mousse, Cuora and Roberta and Cuora never drops below like 70% HP

[near folio]

Wtf the one last barrage from steam knight killed what's left of my defense

[graceful bear]

Okay, so there is no risk of Mousse killing the boss early, which is good

[vernal lion]

it's funny how you are the last one

but yea, nuke team goes brrr

[lethal dragon]

Not enough firepower

Bring more

[glass monolith]

But who would win - Nuke team. Or some fucking dog

[proud drift]

is cuora supposed to be able to tank h11-4 p2 steam knight punch like it's nothing

or is it just mousse being

very very good

[foggy grove]

mousse

and moduled cuora not so shabby

[lethal dragon]

-40% atkn

[proud drift]

I was just thinking that

maybe I can just have blemishine tank steam knight

[elder flume]

mousse s1m3 is good

[tidal sedge]

Probably respecting Mousse again

[proud drift]

if I borrow mousse

or sth

[lethal dragon]

And with skill up cuora'd be able to tank i think

Cuora Def goes upto 2.2k?

[proud drift]

no skill

only half hp

[glass monolith]

I hope Mousse is 100% uptime, right?

[foggy grove]

m3 should be

[glass monolith]

TO THE MASTERY ROOM

[indigo pulsar]

sl7 should be, but there's likely a fraction of a second due to auto attack timings

[proud drift]

worst case scenario

bring a chen

[foggy grove]

sl7 has like 1-2s downtime

[indigo pulsar]

you'd be very unlucky if her debuff wears off before the boss punches

[foggy grove]

he takes his sweet time striking a pose

[glass monolith]

That's literally summary of my life

[vernal lion]

I like how HG is not planning to powercreep Mousse

[proud drift]

kinda makes me wanna raise my own mousse ngl

she's cute and is very good

[indigo pulsar]

she needs a skin

[vernal lion]

soon

[graceful bear]

Roberta also gives a 25 second 33% Def buff

[proud drift]

oof

well

blemishine has 15% total dmg reduction

so she can compensate for that

I guess

[graceful bear]

Shining can substitute as well

[proud drift]

I'll also have skalter running

or at least in the plans

[graceful bear]

honestly

E1 Sl7 Roberta is enough

All you get from E2 is 8% more DEF buff and 5 seconds of cycle time

As you saw in the vid, bro was overcapping on makeup machines

E2 S2M3 Mousse is not negotiable tho

[proud drift]

ya I can just borrow mousse

if someone has her in my friendlist

[lethal dragon]

Soon
Her skin is right after Lin banner with Qiu bai event

Also pozy peak fiction skin

[lethal dragon]

NGL she might be useable in Minecraft event to tank those bosses

[glass monolith]

e2 roberta is 2 free shields instead 1

[proud drift]

I don't have a mousse friend

[glass monolith]

Time to slap refresh button so long than you encounter E2 S1 Cutter

[proud drift]

I need m3 so I need friend

I might as well just raise one on my own

-20 roccs

wth 4* are so cheap to raise

[glass monolith]

Oh come fucking on, i need that rock on Archetto

[lethal dragon]

Sl-7 will work bro

[proud drift]

fuck

[glass monolith]

I reached point of game when random niche stuff is maxed and now i need to touch meta shit but it all rock

[proud drift]

[lethal dragon]

Just raise your own mousse to E1 40

[proud drift]

I raised her to e2 40 from e0 1 literally just now

lmao

was about to mastery her but she's slaving in trading post

[lethal dragon]

Wow

[livid delta]

More people should raise 4*

[lethal dragon]

Ew low rarity characters

[glass monolith]

throws Ambriel at content

[proud drift]

I should probably raise a few specific ones

[lethal dragon]

Throws ambriel

[livid delta]

Should I clone ambriel with mumu

[lethal dragon]

Don't!!!

Shitty atk interval

Dorothy or aak

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1065287261366779924.png?quality=lossless

[livid delta]

Also I learned if the enemy kills the blob before it clones mumu is useless

[livid delta]

That's what s2 is for

[lethal dragon]

Hmm

[proud drift]

is sl7 mousse enough tho

to make skaltered blebishine handle steam knight bonks

[lethal dragon]

Should be
It's 1s downtime

[livid delta]

Also if I use s3 that's like 5 hits at a time

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882236058383843359.png?quality=lossless

Shu

I got pot 3 ho'ol

[livid delta]

[lethal dragon]

And a fiametta

[livid delta]

[proud drift]

fiammeta

[lethal dragon]

[livid delta]

I got p3 hool too

[lethal dragon]

I took the L

[livid delta]

Fia good

[lethal dragon]

5th operator

No mumu

[livid delta]

Better base

[lethal dragon]

Yeah fia is good

[livid delta]

[lethal dragon]

I don't have her in En

[glass monolith]

Just don't copy Ifrit

[proud drift]

so my blemi currently has 601 def

skalter makes it 746

[lethal dragon]

I need to E2 cuora

For budget niań

[proud drift]

what can buff defenders defense

[livid delta]

Mod 3 cuora handles so much early game

[proud drift]

or whether it's even enough for blemi to tank the 3 punches

[lethal dragon]

Aak s2

[proud drift]

preferably passively

[glass monolith]

Hoshi existance?

[proud drift]

oh ya hoshi has a passive doesnt she

oh but at e2

[lethal dragon]

Horn buffs atk?

[proud drift]

well I could borrow nian to buff hp

and just make her have enough hp too

[lethal dragon]

Yeah just atk

[proud drift]

I could also just borrow Nian to tank it instead

nvm I can't my friend isn't sharing his maxed nian

[lethal dragon]

Could always mald with mud s3

[proud drift]

I mean I'm looking now and

doesn't he basically have

400 def and 0 res in phase 2

so can't I just try to burst it instead of tanking punches lul

p1 is a bit of a bitch tho

oh nvm

h11-4 condition

makes him have permanent reduced damage

in p2

[lethal dragon]

Boss isn't even the main problem
Handling all the mobs causes headache

[proud drift]

I forgot does blemishine 15% reduction

apply after or before def/res mitigation

[tidal sedge]

After

All damage reduction is after def/res mitigation afaik

[proud drift]

with just skalter and no other damage reduction sources or anything he's gonna punch blebishine for 1.6k 3 times

😔

however

[tidal sedge]

I'm curious, are folks using Shining here at all

[proud drift]

with sl7 mousse it becomes only 1.1k

so if I borrow nian or shining she can live

[glass monolith]

H9-6 designer: I made this level annoying by sending 30 mobs at 2 chokepoints very early
H11-4 designer: Dog

[proud drift]

the dogs didn't seem that bad

at least on the 4* clear

may+podenco sweep

[lethal dragon]

Devourers and fucking carts

[tidal sedge]

Enemy density in ch 11 is surprising

[glass monolith]

What devourers?

[proud drift]

stainless turrets are also an option lmao

[glass monolith]

Having e2 max m6 Kroos never felt so good

Or whatever the saying I probably gutted the phrase

[willow tinsel]

yo can someone help with anni 14

[proud drift]

Uhh which one is that

The tokens one?

[willow tinsel]

the lingering shangshu thing

[somber falcon]

Show your ops

[proud drift]

What gives you trouble

[hollow forum]

what's your current team

[indigo pulsar]

is that the one that ethan solves 80% of?

[proud drift]

Generally ethan+aosta/bluepoison makes it trivial

But it can be problematic

[willow tinsel]

mainly these

[proud drift]

Crabs, dragons and halbers

Ok no problem nvm

What makes you lose tho

Or not 400/400

[somber falcon]

Should be easy with those

[hollow forum]

looks like you can clear this pretty fine

[willow tinsel]

my manticore kinda too weak and they leak

[proud drift]

You can leak the tokens

Up to 10

[willow tinsel]

like i can kill main mobs but thers too much flyin shit

[proud drift]

Ethan is who you should use tho

[hollow forum]

use ethan

[proud drift]

Ethan s1

[hollow forum]

he doesn't even need to be e1

[indigo pulsar]

manticore isn't a substitute for ethan if that's what you're using her for

[proud drift]

E0 sl4 works fine

[hollow forum]

e0 max level with sl4 will do

[willow tinsel]

alr il try that tyty

[proud drift]

Ethan e0 and either e1 blue poison or e1 aosta

[somber falcon]

Arguably he really wants it though
Sl5 or 6 gives +1 tick

[proud drift]

You can leak a few tho

Anni counts kills not leaks

So if u kill all 400 main enemies u can leak tokens and still win

And get full rewards

[somber falcon]

Saga s2 is also great for clearing up wares

[hollow forum]

can't argue with that

also fiametta is pretty good

assuming that you can keep her alive the whole time

[graceful bear]

Dorothy is a really good AA sniper for some reason

[lethal dragon]

Use a combo of Ethan and aosta
You just need E1 aosta

[graceful bear]

https://tenor.com/P8LY.gif

[glass monolith]

Save it for IW rerun

[near folio]

Stalling steam knight at it's finest

[storm current]

ceobe + ange carry hard

also ptilo sp gain is so important to cut off the down time

[near folio]

Roberta + Shamare cycle

[proud drift]

wait why are there only 10 enemies

wtf is this stage

[near folio]

Its a tree stage

Basically you stall steam knight and kill all the trees

[storm current]

tree doesnt count toward enemies count

[proud drift]

is this one of the H stages

[storm current]

h2

[near folio]

H11-2

[proud drift]

oh

[storm current]

i ended up nuking steamknight with suzu eyja saria ceobe

no ifrit cuz shes balls

[proud drift]

I need to do the H stages

stopped at 11-19

[near folio]

H11-1 was a nightmare

[storm current]

its kinda annoying if you dont brute force

[near folio]

H11-2 is pretty fun

[storm current]

h11-1 is caster spam

[near folio]

I had to pull out mlynar for H11-1

[storm current]

h3 is fairly ok

[near folio]

That's how hard it was

[storm current]

chapter 11 make me want an art lane holder

not lapp cuz lapp die too fast

[near folio]

Shalem

[storm current]

oh ye

i will wait for 6* art protector then

czerny is eh

most high def enemies deal physical

and most art enemies also have high res

[near folio]

Czerny is not really offensive, he mainly tanks arts damage

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

[proud drift]

people generally want mousse s1m3 for uptime on steam knight

rather than the 15%

right

which means ch'en compensates for the lack of masteries?

[indigo pulsar]

sl7 would probably be good enough, but you'd probably want to bring along an extra defenders just in case the boss does his punch right as her debuff wears off

[proud drift]

well

funny you say that

I'm p.sure blebishine is my only defender that can handle a punch

and I want to bring a shining for def buff + good ST healer

[scarlet ledge]

wtf why im getting king charles and queen camilla coronation

hello dsowpey

[proud drift]

hi liete

[sonic willow]

The problem is won't you kill steam too fast

[proud drift]

I dunno if I'm gonna nuke him

[sonic willow]

Hmmm

[proud drift]

and mousse alone is certainly not enough to nuke him

from what I saw from videos and clips

steam knight is stallable very easily

so I was thinking I just put a few units to stall steam knight

[sonic willow]

It takes a while to kill the 4 trees

[proud drift]

and focus on the rest of the stage

ehh

I can fiammetta one tree

I can surtr another tree

worst case scenario one of the tree dudes can be stalled for a bit

since they only spawn after steam knight dies with the rest of the stage, no?

[sonic willow]

Ig you're right

[scarlet ledge]

done h stage @proud drift

?

[proud drift]

no

finishing reading 11-19

then need to do 11-20

[glass monolith]

if you not nuking boss it is very likely boss will be last enemy you kill

[proud drift]

[sonic willow]

Why no missiles in h11-4 tho

Would've been so fun amirite

[proud drift]

ok

11-20 was a bit funny

now I know to be prepared for h11-4

god damn was I unprepared for 11-20

[soft crystal]

11-20 wasnt too bad

[proud drift]

if you're prepared yeah

I wasn't

it wasn't too pretty

[soft crystal]

I just had everyone in one spot

[proud drift]

yeah me too

his phase transition

nuked everyone

and uh

even in 11-20 AE he kinda just

bitchslapped my blebishine

[lethal dragon]

Just gonna leave it here

[sonic willow]

11-20 blind is just me panic dropping as much nuke as I can on the boss

[hazy totem]

I forgot Ethan has a high res thus can tank those rocket launcher.

[vital arrow]

He only has 10 res wdym

It's because of his trait

Unless theirs is E2

Which is a based move

[gilded bone]

need help with h11-4
got a problem with not the boss, but other mobs, can't make it work somehow, they're tanky as hell

[sonic willow]

Show squad

[eager gate]

Huh? Ambushers not 30res by default?

[gilded bone]

something like this
I try to helidrop skadi on trees, damage boss with NTRK, the others are for stalling/mobclear

[hazy totem]

Yep you're right but I planed to use him to slow down the devourer first. I didn't realize he can survive to the missiles.

[sonic willow]

If youre having trouble with the carts and the big devourer wave, Mlynar is really good at clearing that

@gilded bone

[gilded bone]

passenger takes care of carts

[sonic willow]

If you have exu, I think you can drop both dp and may

[vital arrow]

They get 10 res each promotion

[sonic willow]

Which mobs are you having trouble with

[gilded bone]

can't figure out how to hold the left passage, those mobs are beyond bullshit resilient

[proud drift]

ok what the fuck is h11-1

that is not a fair stage

[sonic willow]

You can hold it with saria + healer + good dps

[glass monolith]

I was telling it is shitshow from what i seen half year ago, i was right

[gilded bone]

but saria gets bombarded?

[sonic willow]

I used GG and she cleared the mobs fast enough so saria doesn't get overrun

[gilded bone]

and define good dps, I dont think one exusiai able to hold off both dogs and devourers

dont have GG, dunno how she works

[sonic willow]

Show your other ops

[proud drift]

I

genuinely have no clue

what to do

in h11-1

it's so cancer

[foggy grove]

laugh

[scarlet ledge]

dswopey

[gilded bone]

try to burst out the starting mages and then deploy as usual, use a lot of physical damage, bottom row holds one mountain

[scarlet ledge]

u like caster spam?

[proud drift]

no the starting isn't the issue for me

[scarlet ledge]

[proud drift]

it's the fucking 40+

[sonic willow]

Eyja s2 should work

[proud drift]

and I don't even know if even chalter borrow is gonna help with this

[sonic willow]

Or maybe try thorns even

[scarlet ledge]

its gonna help

[foggy grove]

i tried to shoot them from afar with horn
then just give up and spawncamp

[sonic willow]

Borrow NG and pray to conviction you survive

[gilded bone]

arent they resistant to arts? and what should I do with the rest of the map if the left side demands 3 deploy units?

[proud drift]

idk what genius thought it's funny to make devourers mini-bosses

ng borrow sounds like a possibility

[sonic willow]

The usual strategy is to stall the boss while you clear the rest of the map

[proud drift]

but it won't solve the carts or necrosis or devourer+dog spam on top

I'll try something tho I guess

seems to be working for now

welp last wave fucked me because I used ng too early

like yeah

idk what's the counterplay to this

• 2 carts

[astral oyster]

Chalter

With uncle

[void kelp]

Lineup for lingering Shanshu trials (IW anni)
Gonna borrow an s3m3 mod2 fia
Is this good enough? Should i change someone?

[proud drift]

I think if I use ng later

I might be able to get it

I guess

[astral oyster]

U can borrow chalter

She can easily 3-4 shot the huzzah wizzards

Batteries not included

Skill cycle may be scuffed

[sonic willow]

Spalter probably good

Let her die, she slows and deals true aoe

[proud drift]

I don't have a slot for her

I'm barely scraping by with nightingale

[astral oyster]

Dun need hesling if they die first

[hollow forum]

what's your current squad rn

[proud drift]

if it takes 3-4 shots

she does get oneshot

[astral oyster]

Put ur chen back a bit

No need let her tank

[hollow forum]

exu + a blocker or suzuran can deal with the top lane fairly easily

[proud drift]

I have kaltsit killing top

my issue is middle

because they thought carts that do 1500 damage

[hollow forum]

do you have horn

[proud drift]

are funny

yes but not raised