strategy

[glass monolith]

(And then he repeated that madness in future events)

[foggy grove]

i heard tfn will have steamknight

[vernal lion]

it is

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is it lv0?

[foggy grove]

prolly,i heard cuora can tank it

😞

[turbid badge]

cuora

[vernal lion]

stat for easy and normal mode

that's lv 0

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ye

[vernal lion]

and then hard mode

Invisible: YES

[latent anvil]

Is he?

[vernal lion]

TN-3 hard

[scarlet fulcrum]

As usual, additional condition

[latent anvil]

Oh

[frozen plover]

How do i tank the middle wave in h11-1

[glass monolith]

Oh wait it is his actual stats in future? I just messed around in F12

[ancient hearth]

Gravel

[vernal lion]

bring some frd to bait the chain attack

[turbid badge]

glaadia spending so long attack the tree

wierd

[cosmic dagger]

It's a common problem with unpullable things

They continuously try to pull

[vernal lion]

oh yea TN-3 hard, Steam Knight p2 is 30% DR too

[gleaming lodge]

Gladoo S2 with IS ASPD buffs does weird things as well

Didn't see the 28% and thought you did 20+20+14=54% DR

[glass monolith]

god damn math magic

[tidal sedge]

Golden chalice is the highest tier ingot aspd item right?

[vernal lion]

yes

[lethal dragon]

Ok I can do it

I just need to retreat andreana earlier

[turbid badge]

eoeoeoe

wait wtf

wheres my phantom

[vernal lion]

[turbid badge]

Oh

[vernal lion]

in the stomach...

[turbid badge]

[turbid badge]

he was hiding

[latent anvil]

i like ntrk in the stomach

[turbid badge]

bos just flew

[latent anvil]

and then surtr to get her out

teta is that win

[vernal lion]

are you winning

[latent anvil]

those shields they give you actually saved my run

they allow left side to not die to gas spewer

[turbid badge]

idk

They killing really alowlu

[glass monolith]

dog ate my shield

[turbid badge]

im just having fun placing dorothy mines

Lmao its like

smth to do while the war rages

[vernal lion]

I like how there's a delay of casting shield if there's no one in front of Allerdale

[glass monolith]

Me trying to cast Allerdale shield on stainless turret because i forgot there was said turret

[latent anvil]

my left side of gg mountain lumen kept dying until shield, then they live with one hp

[turbid badge]

mizuki op against vore guys

[turbid badge]

lmao i had blemi and Eunectus for left

i tried Gladdia and Skadi but i went skalter

So No use for full Ah so gladdia was swapped out

rot chasers to tanky

[latent anvil]

i wanted to mountain right thorns left but that would actually just be useless so i went mountain left, much better

[lean hull]

hello

does anyone have a vid for 1 6* low end squad for h11-1

i cnt find any on youtube

[latent anvil]

how low end you asking

[lean hull]

1 6*

the rest is normal 4* and lower

[latent anvil]

you are asking for link? okay here https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Dg41187L9/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=d611a3eb2acf640a9bbda95ca55be970

[glass monolith]

If you want to low end H stage, don't go to Kyo, he will have 2 6* at least and complain how hard it is

[latent anvil]

dont complain that amiya is 5* pls

[lethal dragon]

Spalter you dumb bitch

Hoe

[foggy grove]

why does that amiya look like mine

e2 l1

[lean hull]

who do u think i can sub jaye with?

bruh

did u watch the vid b4 u send me

[latent anvil]

ofc not

[lean hull]

[foggy grove]

why would he need to watch it

[latent anvil]

i dont look at guide

[foggy grove]

[cosmic dagger]

https://b23.tv/cR8ZJH5

[latent anvil]

i have infinite 6 star glitch

i can rarity abuse all

[cosmic dagger]

Doesn't have gamiya

Wait no oop

Does have gamiya

But other idea

[lean hull]

~~this is some real hard shit u guys expecting from newbies ~~

i think ill manage smh

thanks

[latent anvil]

i mean

h 11-1 is not supposed to be for newbie

[vernal lion]

yea lol

[latent anvil]

and you asked for 1 6* too, theres a reason nobody like making guide with 1 6*

[vernal lion]

unless you're doing low run challenge

[latent anvil]

its damn hard/annoying

[lethal dragon]

[latent anvil]

its probably easier to look at 2 6* guide and try and replicate what one of the 6* is doing with ur own ops

[latent anvil]

yea same thing happened to me on left side for h11-4, looked like 0 hp and bp whacked it twice, still didnt die

[lethal dragon]

I am not m3ing andreana for this stage

Yeah I won't

[foggy grove]

do it

[lean hull]

what can i replace with chalter/ mylnar

i donthtink those exists

[soft crystal]

i mean

you have a pretty okay squad by now

i think

[lean hull]

i think

not

[vernal lion]

what is your squad btw

[soft crystal]

i saw your squad

if i remember

[lean hull]

https://krooster.com/u/welkin

[glass monolith]

I think that's dumb and should not be possible

[soft crystal]

lol its very doable

[foggy grove]

[soft crystal]

just borrow mlynar

[lean hull]

i dun hav mylnar n chalter

[soft crystal]

lmao

dont need chalter

[lean hull]

[foggy grove]

that roster

is this baiting

[soft crystal]

you have a shitton of things that can cover chalters role

[lean hull]

for example?

to my knowledge nothing can replace chalter

[soft crystal]

[lean hull]

[soft crystal]

stop copying guides

[vernal lion]

holy shit

[soft crystal]

maybe start making your own strats

[lean hull]

but im dumb..

[soft crystal]

you're at that point

[latent anvil]

ok here ill tell you something insane

if you feel like ur dumb and you keep practicing

you will improve

almost everyone start trash, and keep going until they are better

isnt this how life works

[lean hull]

i wanna just copy kyostinv my god and savior and sleep

[foggy grove]

i didn't realize new player this day is that stacked

[lean hull]

[lean hull]

its just a nickname tho

just because your nickname is dog doesnt mean your a dog r u?

[latent anvil]

ok i understand your want to collect op and then sleep but its literally easier to learn the game

[soft crystal]

i started with copying guides

but like

i copied guides and also eventually learned from what the guides are doing

making scuffed versions of what thjey're doing

and improving eventually

[gentle finch]

https://youtu.be/LR3elWe5TnY

[foggy grove]

i'm improving as shamelss rarity abuser

[lean hull]

do u know who can replace chalter

[glass monolith]

I improve by abusing mechanics over numbers... But 6* have most unique mechanics

[soft crystal]

horn, surtr, pozy can do chalters role sort of

[lean hull]

[soft crystal]

she's juust there for damage

all of them can nuke equally as well with some support.

[lean hull]

aight

do u know who can replace jaye?

my jay is e0 lvl1..

[soft crystal]

you figure that on your own im not gonna spoonfeed everything to you

[lean hull]

im just missing jays's substitute

[cosmic dagger]

? Bro...

[inner garden]

why are there 2 empty slots why is Beagle there What is happening

[lean hull]

i look at kyostinv guide

[soft crystal]

i just go into a stage and then just adjust and replace and think who im using very well in the stage

and who is just deadweight

[lean hull]

this what he using

[astral oyster]

excus me wtf is H11-4

[soft crystal]

yes

[inner garden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1073837394710777916/ezgif-4-e1e525f035.gif

[soft crystal]

i love H11-4 dogs

so cool

[astral oyster]

H11-4 literally defender stall smh

and i dont have any built

[latent anvil]

is that really it? oh okay

h11-4 first dog really fun

thorns warf cant survive

[glass monolith]

Ah yes. I used Gladiia + Skadi
Second dog killed both

[latent anvil]

yea thats why i gave up and used mountain instead

very good decision

[foggy grove]

rabies is not good

[lean hull]

save my ass pls. i just copy what kyostinv use and replace them with high rarity...
someone said chalter can be replace with surtr,horn,poyz. and this is my team

[astral oyster]

h11-4 uncle solo such clickbait

[lean hull]

[soft crystal]

if i do shining gavialter on the dog and dont use s2 immediately she fucking dies

[glass monolith]

Kokodayo into afterlife. This stage had more eaters than entire chapter

[cosmic dagger]

The doge is why I love new frds

Kirin yato and texas omertosa both one cycle them

[astral oyster]

god i love my kirin and texas wait where is mine

yostar

where texas

[cosmic dagger]

Simply play cn

[vernal lion]

ok so,
the sarkaz caster has special attack that can instant-do full stack of sanity dmg, or corruption dmg, which makes your op losing sp,
you have W s2, Honeyb and Red s2 can help with that,
about top lane, you can use anyone to cover top, until the vore guy appeared, you could kill it faster before it tried to eat someone, for just let Gravel bait it,
so you should have Honeyb deploy on the top ranged tile, facing left, so she can heal for both mid and top,
the bottom is just some low mob, have someone 2 block with decent burst dmg or better dps can carry all in that lane,
middle lane also got some tough car so you can use high physical dmg or just regular arts dmg to help with that lane,
if you want a strat for this stage, I can help with that, but you need to understand how to beat a harder stage or later stage

[gentle finch]

🛐

[inner garden]

everyone would be on cn if the registration wasnt such a pain tbh

[gentle finch]

Inés is nice to use

[inner garden]

and because i read story

[gentle finch]

i like her bind talent

[latent anvil]

arias

#strategy message

[inner garden]

ines looks awesome i need her on en rn

[lean hull]

who do i put on bottem lane above my dps. i think i fuck up

[latent anvil]

#strategy message

same day

[inner garden]

wait wait omg

[cosmic dagger]

The registration requires you to send in government id which turns a bunch of people away

Otherwise it's just some waiting

[latent anvil]

kermit look my two links

there is no waiting for me

[astral oyster]

still waiting my confirmation email

[inner garden]

whats secret technique

[latent anvil]

idk if i can say

[gentle finch]

i haven't done h11-1 yet

well i did one attempt

was chaotic

[latent anvil]

ok i dm

[inner garden]

yes yes

[inner garden]

yeah
it isnt that big of a problem but it sure is annoying

[lean hull]

bruh horn and pozy cant shoot that wide..

[gentle finch]

fiammetta seem like she would be good

[night rivet]

Having no source of stun basically handicapped my ability to proc skills

[lean hull]

how do i even make my own runs

fuck

[foggy grove]

it is
i spend more attempt on it then h11-4

[gentle finch]

have a plan for each wave of enemies

don't just unga bunga

[night rivet]

Err if you have Kal then her S2 will carry lower lane fine

but otherwise, I'm sorry

[foggy grove]

he has kal

the roster is up there

[vernal lion]

there's a big difference between ppl have Mountain and don't have Mountain

[lean hull]

ya

i think that person is shitting with me

horn,pozy n surtr cnt replace chalter

[ancient hearth]

I didn't even block the dogs after the first attempt.

[gentle finch]

ok i do H stages no

w

[ancient hearth]

Dorothy on S2M3 + May is enough to kill them off

[vernal lion]

yo I didn't even use Chalter tho. the cost is still 31

[glass monolith]

You not using god damn casters

[noble pewter]

this is my plan for u, the other 5 slot u can fill with diff op, and 1 more support op of ur choice, gladiaa if module 3 n s1m3 can hold bot quite well alone, with only ptilopsis healing, horn will be deployed last n maybe die quite often, or u can try bait caster atks with fast redeploy like canta/gravel/monster with ur 1 free slot, the 1 free slot can also be used to feed/block top so ur exusia n dorothy can kill, u can also use traps to stall top, if mid falls dont worry, they will go to the side lanes where u have chance to redeploy n kill, may also consider bring a sutr/spalter instead

[latent anvil]

i didnt use wet chen either, that cheating

[vernal lion]

Surtr is my best "caster"

[latent anvil]

is chalt even useful on 11-4, i dont think so

[ancient hearth]

Not really. Range awkward for that stage and cycling isn’t good.

[glass monolith]

You can. But why

[lean hull]

sankyu

[ancient hearth]

You are genuinely better off with Ebbenholz for his faster cycling.

Or Mlynar

[night rivet]

You could use the "robot" type for the "devour" guy too imo, cheap and ignore deployment limit

or maybe I'm dumb and hallucinating

[ancient hearth]

Just feed gravel to the devourers

[bright swan]

I am struggling on H5-3. Here is operator I have.

[noble pewter]

carnelian may also work at dorothy place instead, as she can tank caster atk n maybe use s2 which slow/stun the enemies which useful to stop top n maybe stun can interrupt enemy caster atk n she is tanky n can self heal n ptilopsis u can activate skill incr heal range n giving sp regen so she can use skill even faster

[glass monolith]

I just feed devourers to Kroos alter

[ancient hearth]

They have 0 def, any decent range dps will do the job

[gentle finch]

@turbid badge

do you got fia s3m3

[vernal lion]

a true player will know when to use physical dmg, arts dmg or true dmg

[gentle finch]

i want

[vernal lion]

[turbid badge]

No thats dwsopey

Max fia

[glass monolith]

Any range dps with attack speed up of sort, those enemies still THICC hp wise

[foggy grove]

a true player should use true

[turbid badge]

(not max pot tho

[gentle finch]

i don't got him added

😭

[turbid badge]

[gentle finch]

what's his tag

@proud drift

I need a hero

[ancient hearth]

Any stall can let even low rarity aa snipers chip in. Dorothy S2M3 was enough to solo the devourers on H11-3

[gentle finch]

i want to clear h11-1 using fia

[proud drift]

uh

lemme see if I got anyone to remove

[astral oyster]

how low can H11-4 requirement be

my defenders isnt raised

[lean hull]

lemme try out a few things. a sec

[cosmic dagger]

You can always rotate defenders if necessary

[ancient hearth]

Shamare or Mousse

[cosmic dagger]

Otherwise suck it up and borrow mod3 nian

[astral oyster]

sometimes they cant survive all of SK punches

like the normal att

not the one punch

[astral oyster]

Is E2 SL7 enough

[glass monolith]

Pro gamer deploy on backline tiles

[cosmic dagger]

No mod3 nian should tank very easily

[bright swan]

Waiting on response. Lmk please, thanks.

[ancient hearth]

The punch is 2.7k physical 3 times

[cosmic dagger]

I recall her facetanking ability even off skill

[ancient hearth]

Do your math.

[astral oyster]

almost stronger than patriot?

[ancient hearth]

But nian should be able to live if skill is up and she has mod.

If barely

[noble pewter]

but u have perfumer n abyss hunter team, they shouldnt die

[proud drift]

@gentle finch Dswopey#4806

found someone I can remove

barely

[bright swan]

Hmm I will keep trying

[ancient hearth]

It beat H11-4 with this, though Shamare was S2M2

[gentle finch]

same lol

[astral oyster]

that team is a bit shiny for me

[gentle finch]

sent req

[astral oyster]

dorothy no S2M3

[gentle finch]

uneven levels

im dead

[ancient hearth]

Yes.

Sue me

[astral oyster]

working on it one day

[proud drift]

accepted

[ancient hearth]

Ptilopsis can help bridge that issue

[astral oyster]

my medic aint looking that good either

[latent anvil]

Where the 6 star ones

[cosmic dagger]

I took a peek at nian stats, 1.2k def off skill and 5k HP so she barely lives the ability

[ancient hearth]

I’m cursed with all the medics except nightingale

[gentle finch]

she will serve me well
also my squad has uneven levels as well😔

[astral oyster]

wdym 6* ones

[cosmic dagger]

I was confused because I didn't recall needing to cycle defenders

And it was because you indeed don't need to cycle defenders

[glass monolith]

I benched Nightingale for H11-4

[turbid badge]

mine s2 m2

[turbid badge]

yea mine to

[astral oyster]

mod lvl?

[turbid badge]

lvl 63 mod lvl 3

[cosmic dagger]

Skalter is cheating

[turbid badge]

ah true

[latent anvil]

For who

[cosmic dagger]

But the point is that you don't even need skalter or shining

Nian stronk

[turbid badge]

but she still lives without skalter

[turbid badge]

i had her just in case

[glass monolith]

Don't know, but my ez win team was -
Wait i replaced April with GG on following attempt

[ancient hearth]

skalter'd hoshi and nian can live through the piledriver off skill

[astral oyster]

best nian i can find

[ancient hearth]

but otherwise....

[turbid badge]

warfrain kept getting zapped by the lightning even with NG skill

[turbid badge]

idk if that will live, maybe if u can heal it fast enough?

after the big punch he does another punch

[latent anvil]

Wow you used 12 units I didn't use

only similar is myrtle

[astral oyster]

barely over 4k with 799 def

[glass monolith]

Also I used advanced tactic of "whatever the fuck this is".

[cosmic dagger]

Talent for HP + mod for more def + blocking 20% def

The raw stats are misleading

[turbid badge]

someone did nian calcs

u can scroll up

@astral oyster

[astral oyster]

800+ 20% is 960 def
with 4694 hp with the 16% max hp can she tank it
2.7 - 960 = 1740
1740 * 3 = 5220 stll deadge
ofc my math is shit so

[turbid badge]

u have me friended?

u have skalter?

built heidi?

[noble pewter]

maybe use lappland silence the bot exploding slimes n position ur perfumer safe from such hazards then ur abyss ppl n mountain passive regeners hope lanes n hold their passive regen + perfumer global regen is enuf to stay healthy then pozy the high def enemies or deploy ur mlynar/sutr to clean dangerous waves maybe kalsit+monster can solo 1 of the top lane

[turbid badge]

[ancient hearth]

21% defense from the mod 3 shields

+20% defense when blocking

[turbid badge]

theirs is mod 2

[bright swan]

Thanks

[latent anvil]

Bruh ur telling me my mod1 nian was that close from tanking

[bright swan]

I hope H5-4 is not hard

[turbid badge]

Oh u can use stainless turret

to help

Dummm

[latent anvil]

Woulda made the stage so much easier

[turbid badge]

DR

[ancient hearth]

mod 2 is 15% defense from the 3 shields

[astral oyster]

i fogor the 20% DR lmao

[cosmic dagger]

A lot of the nian shilling were precisely because of h11

So I did mod3 too then proceeded to never use her afterwards

[glass monolith]

What was H5-4? Faust+? Spoiler: ||There is drone from red box||

[astral oyster]

make me wanna spark nian ngl

[cosmic dagger]

I guess cc12 w1

But cc12 was the specialist show anyway

[ancient hearth]

Nian should have 1088 defense if she's on mod2 while blocking

off skill

[toxic loom]

does mizuki's bind work against phatom?

[turbid badge]

8700 physical damage

[astral oyster]

i noticed something i forgor if i borrow nian left side will dog rush me to oblivion

[turbid badge]

yea bind works

[turbid badge]

no mountain?

oh

[ancient hearth]

I just had dorothy and may camp the left box

[turbid badge]

just chalter

[ancient hearth]

the only thing touching the dogs were the mines

[astral oyster]

So S2 + ptilo ?

S2 SL7

[ancient hearth]

I'm on S2M3, but I don't think that really matters too much for the dogs

[turbid badge]

oh u guys used s2

i used s3 dorothy

[astral oyster]

oh so im gonna use s3

since i only have that n3

[turbid badge]

use s2

S3 doesnt kill fast enough

[ancient hearth]

also, I think dorothy mines stop the steam knight from banning tiles

[glass monolith]

I use Ptilo on 99.9999% of my maps where i used medic. But fuck me i am not bored enough to M3 her

[ancient hearth]

mines make the tile count as occupied

[ebon oxide]

she's worth thebm3

[bright swan]

thanks

[astral oyster]

shit better work

[bright swan]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[astral oyster]

[bright swan]

why do that icon look like mumu

[turbid badge]

mumu. blob

[astral oyster]

dorothy use mumu to make quicksand 💀

[ancient hearth]

throw the water at the sand

makes sense

that is how quicksand is made

[turbid badge]

and alot of force

I hate how they look so small and weak

[astral oyster]

yeah my s2 is nowhere close kill the doggos

[turbid badge]

wtfart

why no start w bagpipe

[astral oyster]

on the other side

[turbid badge]

bagpipe doro

Oh

[ancient hearth]

anyways, the H11-4 dogs have 19.2k hp, and 240 def

you need multiple mines + dorothy auto + an aa sniper sorta to kill them

[astral oyster]

[turbid badge]

yea

the Hp part

is just annoying

[ancient hearth]

fat fucking dogs

[night rivet]

WHAT 19K?

[foggy grove]

Fat dogs dies to bagpepe s3

[turbid badge]

Just use bagpipe s3 on that side right side it way more leniet

[ancient hearth]

16k base, adverse buffs that by 20%

[astral oyster]

can i use a defective exu

[foggy grove]

[vernal lion]

yes

took like 5 times for s3 to kill it

[turbid badge]

u want someone that can tank their bites too

or u can slow them

Idk im feeling u chalter

or mlynar

[ancient hearth]

I used an E1 May

if it works, it works

[turbid badge]

she can stall 2 rot?

[ancient hearth]

May on S1 + dorothy on S2 handled the dogs

[turbid badge]

Also uhh

u have Ling

u can just use ling

[ancient hearth]

so I can put all my healers on the right side to deal with the steam knight

bruh, the dogs have a poison dot

150 hp a sec, that shit hurts

[turbid badge]

Just swap out dragons smh

oh

[ancient hearth]

even mountain needed healing to handle more than 1

[turbid badge]

Bruh i used blemi s2

[gentle finch]

the rarity abuse is real

[turbid badge]

At the end i have to add Eunectus cuz vore guys

[astral oyster]

welp time to experiment

[gentle finch]

oh boss is in H11-2

cool

stage seems easy

[cyan gorge]

How the hell do you do h11-1

[glass monolith]

As long as you play woodcutter

[gentle finch]

chalter

[glass monolith]

Good question, i still don't know how i won

[gentle finch]

I cycled between 2 frd

when chalter skill is down use silverash

[turbid badge]

NG

just burst them

[gentle finch]

and of course nightingale

[turbid badge]

horn

Mlynar

chalter

[gentle finch]

to keep everything alive when neither chalterf of silverash is up

[turbid badge]

kill them before they kill you

[astral oyster]

actually why didnt i use this from the start

[gentle finch]

that's basically what i did

[turbid badge]

eehhh

rng mald

[gentle finch]

chalter + SA+ ng

[turbid badge]

[vernal lion]

I like how if I want to stall the boss, I just use burst op to "stall"

[bright swan]

hope this works

[astral oyster]

welp back to nian i didnt bring enough healing and nian dead

[turbid badge]

Do u have warf

[cyan gorge]

I don't have a single NG friend

[turbid badge]

her s1 is good

It heals by %

[vernal lion]

can't see shit lmao

[astral oyster]

what kinda wierd shit im bringing

[glass monolith]

I'm not sure if i have a single screenshot of Eunectes where she is not obscured behind bullshitness of stage

[turbid badge]

why no chalter

[vernal lion]

it feels like

• Kal'tsit is grabbing right arm
• Surtr is grabbing right leg
• Chen is grabbing left leg
• and NG is hugging its back

[polar crane]

[bright swan]

it did but a lot of people died

i guess thats my first inferno done

[astral oyster]

forgor

[bright swan]

now next is chapter 6

[astral oyster]

mald ch 11 with me

[turbid badge]

U can try a diff strat

I feel like all ur medics gonna be zapped

[astral oyster]

[turbid badge]

By the lightning

Diff strat is borrow surtr

[astral oyster]

[turbid badge]

and Burst

Surtr mlynar bordt

[astral oyster]

idk if i can 1 cycle him

plus the trees in the 4 corners

[gentle finch]

• 2 frd and skadi on modx

was a smooth run

[turbid badge]

Nah

those uhh

U can easily kill

Exu

or something

[latent anvil]

here my mess

[turbid badge]

Only thing thats scary is start for u

Cuz no good lane holdrr

u also have pozy turret

[astral oyster]

at this point im tempted to spark skalter ngl

[glass monolith]

Missed opportunity to write down "LOL" with banned tiles

[latent anvil]

Damn

I'm gonna do that later

Sounds fun

[astral oyster]

dalao truly dalao

[turbid badge]

Do u have gravel raised

Idk how well she fairs off

[astral oyster]

would u consider this "raised"

[glass monolith]

E1 1 Gravel can do 99% of shit you need her for, let's be honest

[vernal lion]

you just need her

[latent anvil]

e1 30 is for chapter 4

Not h11

[astral oyster]

im doing great progress at least

as a day 90 player

[ancient hearth]

holy shit

yes, dorothy mines stop the steam knight from sealing tiles

[bright swan]

this is what I consider raised

[turbid badge]

[bright swan]

oh wait my trust is not 200%

my bad

it's not raised

[turbid badge]

borrow someones maxed nian

[astral oyster]

defective

welp looks like H11-4 is out of bounds for me

i tried my best

[bright swan]

tbh whats up with heavy enemy stunning? they are so annoying

[young elm]

how are you meant to do 5-7? this is the comp ive been running w but it isnt working; the drones keep overwhelming me and the frost drones end up killing me at the end

[bright swan]

it's cursed that my friend can 90 level eyja but can't master it

[turbid badge]

Bro

[astral oyster]

defective friend unfriend em

[turbid badge]

i had a friend with astegenne on support but was lvl 1 e2 sl1 no mod

[bright swan]

i guess I have so many defective friend

[turbid badge]

like what are u doing putting her there

[polar crane]

they have TR lv1

[turbid badge]

just place vanguard bear red bix

And kill them there

[astral oyster]

not everyone is shu hell that guy dont even have TR

[turbid badge]

while ur units slowly kill the drones

[polar crane]

shu have 1

[astral oyster]

lies

that base slave

[bright swan]

why?

I did sl2 every operator I see

[turbid badge]

0 idea

[bright swan]

0 idea?

what do you mean?

[turbid badge]

they had it on their support how am i suppose to know

[bright swan]

my bad

[astral oyster]

nice flex

[turbid badge]

[bright swan]

it is never my intention to flex

[astral oyster]

lies

[bright swan]

well

it's impossible to not flex

[astral oyster]

i can do reverse flex

[bright swan]

ahh

thats much better

wait

I can do balanced flex

[turbid badge]

How my mats look after m9 dorothy

and nian

[vital arrow]

Borrow lappland/SA/mlynar

[bright swan]

very balanced flex

[polar crane]

63 module block

[astral oyster]

do u guys think i should break bank to spark skalter or na?

[bright swan]

what about mine?

[ancient hearth]

looks like anything that occupies a tile stops the steam knight tile bans

[astral oyster]

old player

[ancient hearth]

dorothy mines, skalter summon, cursed doll, etc

[bright swan]

i started on sept

[astral oyster]

i started after ideal city

[bright swan]

i started at end of fiammetta event

[astral oyster]

and only bought the small monthly card

[turbid badge]

On texas?

[astral oyster]

[turbid badge]

Stainless turret

[bright swan]

i am planning to spark W on texasalter banner

[astral oyster]

yea but kinda want spalter too

[turbid badge]

[bright swan]

it will be nice if I got skalter

[sonic willow]

is that cuora or uhh

[bright swan]

gravel

[astral oyster]

gravel

[sonic willow]

oh

[bright swan]

i can get why icon look like cuora

i did used to confuse it long ago

[turbid badge]

skalter, silence, rosmontis, Nearl alter, beeswox, artificer, cages, doll, magi invis drones, Dusk freelijg , weedy turret, pozy turret , tactican , kazemaru clone

w and ebenholz and mines are kinda bad cuz they can just explode

make fun making “LOL”

[ancient hearth]

you really want to save at least 1 tile, so shamare doll can come back for his piledrivers

you could use a fast redelpoyer for this but I just kept deployer and redeploying a mine instead to save the space for the doll

[toxic loom]

finally killed is2 phantom!!! took me a week of trial and error! thank you all to those who helped me!

[astral oyster]

should i use all my resource to spark skalter?

[ancient hearth]

And this was my early game setup for the dogs

it's enough damage, myrtle only got to hit them with the tablecloth once

[turbid badge]

hm

just get lucky

[astral oyster]

nice tip

[turbid badge]

best advice in gacha anyways

[turbid badge]

Also uhh

Another tip

for steamknight

u can also try attack debuffing him

But the issue is probabaly more of left side lane holding

[ancient hearth]

shamare pretty much makes any defender live through the pildriver

[astral oyster]

problem is i have sl7 only

[turbid badge]

thats fine

still enough attack debuff so nian can live

[ancient hearth]

instead of 2.7k atk 3 times, it's just 1.89k atk 3 times, which shouldn't be that difficult to survive

[astral oyster]

i think biggest problem is rotation

[turbid badge]

Do i have u friended

[ancient hearth]

ptilopsis then

[turbid badge]

I have a mod 3 Nian lvl 63

max trust

mod3, stainless 20% DR should live

And than shamare in case she gets hit

and is low

so she gets a cushioned attack

[ancient hearth]

assuming you have E2 ptilospis, SL7 Shamare should have roughly 50% uptime

15s doll duration, 29.2s recharge time that starts immediatley when the doll is deployed

[astral oyster]

ill mald tmr

time to sleep

[ancient hearth]

why mald tomorrow when you can mald now?

[edgy hound]

Question about Londinium Mobile Defense Artillery. Is it generally better to cluster with aoe healing to absorb the rocket barrages? Assuming you can't kill em quick? I've got adv 11-12 next and they spawn right on you there.

Also, can you use baits? Like they have a 25s cooldown between lock ons?

[ancient hearth]

depends on your roster; if you can't kill them fast enough, either bait with a phalanx caster, or huddle together with an aoe healer or Skalter on S1

[astral oyster]

wut friend ID

ill mald a bit more i guess

[scarlet ledge]

S

[ancient hearth]

in actual practice just borrow an ebenholz and go kill the artiller first

[scarlet ledge]

o

b

[edgy hound]

What kind of ops can speed kill them? They've got high def. Ebonholz you mention.

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye

can 90 eune tank h11-4 sk?

[ancient hearth]

ebenholz, ceobe, Mlynar if at max buff, schwarz if you have the angle, pozy if you have the typewriter

[livid delta]

They target highest hp so I just take a defender that can raise their hp and tank them away from everyone with a st medic
You can use matterhorn or czerny or something since the rockets are arts

[scarlet ledge]

shu

elosafure

[livid delta]

[ancient hearth]

H11-4 steam knight does 2.7k physical damage 3 times

do your own math

[livid delta]

Is that it

[scarlet ledge]

only threatening is big swing attack

[turbid badge]

teta#4383

[scarlet ledge]

@turbid badge

helo

[ancient hearth]

the piledriver attack deals 2.7k physical damage 3 times

[scarlet ledge]

🤯

[turbid badge]

hilo

[scarlet ledge]

or i can go to croiss

for dodge

[ancient hearth]

if your op can survive that, it can tank him assuming you have healing

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye feel

done h stage?

[turbid badge]

Yea

Not too bad

[livid delta]

[ancient hearth]

yes, did them yesterday

[turbid badge]

was there a glaadia

[livid delta]

Ofc

[astral oyster]

cant wait to have AH in the future to statcheck bosses

[turbid badge]

chapter 12

[scarlet ledge]

@livid delta my main squad for h11-4

funni shit

[turbid badge]

wow noice

[scarlet ledge]

i love fw

[astral oyster]

teta sill waiting for my nian

[turbid badge]

i replicated that w dorothy mines

[scarlet ledge]

https://youtu.be/v0moSxx96QM

[scarlet ledge]

the auto here btw

[gentle finch]

second one done

[scarlet ledge]

gz

[gentle finch]

was kinda ez

I'll do with abyssals only later

[scarlet ledge]

pog mizuki

call ketsura

[scarlet ledge]

oh nice sail s3 too

[turbid badge]

he cant be Ate

[scarlet ledge]

on prev run

i use sail s3 with bgp

but bgp doesnr need later

since dadga can do the opener anyway

with ptilo healing

for dog

[turbid badge]

waow dagder

i opened with sail into blemi

[scarlet ledge]

@turbid badge here the clear

[ancient hearth]

these dogs have to be the toughest dog type enemies in the game

[astral oyster]

finally survived

[scarlet ledge]

dusk s2 is so satisfying

clearing those gas car

wtf

[ancient hearth]

Shamare: Look at what they need to replicate my power.

[scarlet ledge]

too much?

[scarlet ledge]

kek

[glass monolith]

[turbid badge]

stainless turret

the real support

[glass monolith]

When i said i will pull stainless for S3, i didn't expect THAT

[scarlet ledge]

lol

hello minus

[glass monolith]

Sup

[gentle finch]

m3?

[astral oyster]

wait stainless turret DR stack?

[scarlet ledge]

my dusk is m9

[graceful bear]

Cuora: Your Abyssals can't tank H11-4 Steam Knight, so where does that bring you? Back to me.

[foggy grove]

i heard skadoo can tank

[graceful bear]

I don't have orca smh

[ancient hearth]

With with gladdia module she can

Without I believe the steam knight still 1 shots

[gentle finch]

dalao

[livid delta]

@graceful bear

[gentle finch]

should I m9 my dusk

she M6 already

[livid delta]

YES

Yes yes yes yes yes yes

[graceful bear]

Again, I don't have Skadi

Spalter/Gladiia duo was enough for most things, but...not dis

[cosmic dagger]

In terms of meta dusk sees no play in upcoming content, but m6 implies waifu and dusk is very much waifu

[glass monolith]

It does, i even mathed in on 11-20 few days ago out of boredom
#strategy message

[scarlet ledge]

kerm ello

[astral oyster]

wait wouldnt SK phase 2 just lock bombard my medics to ashes

[ancient hearth]

He locks onto the two ops with highest max hp as the target centers

[astral oyster]

wait only ptilo in range

welp

[ancient hearth]

So Mlynar and nian

[astral oyster]

can nian survive tho is my concern

[scarlet ledge]

its nian

ur fine

[gentle finch]

😰

[astral oyster]

0 res tho

[gentle finch]

if it needs nanoflakes i won't

[ancient hearth]

Ptilopsis s2 to find out

[livid delta]

Nanoflakes is literally the easiest t5

[scarlet ledge]

anyway

imma play pvz2

bye

[gentle finch]

Texas needs 12

[livid delta]

Just make more

[gentle finch]

I'm sparking skalter and she needs a lot

like 6

[livid delta]

Sparking skalter when Heidi exists

[gentle finch]

my guy

use both

[graceful bear]

Taunt overrides TLSK target priority, so Nightingale cages and Mlynar can bait the missiles to like Brazil

[livid delta]

[gentle finch]

that's the real way

[livid delta]

Double Bard meta real??

[glass monolith]

Inspire Sora to make her scream better

[graceful bear]

Do raw stats given by talents show up in the operator screen?

[ancient hearth]

Mlynar is getting missiles anyways with his massive hp stat

[gentle finch]

no

[gentle finch]

real

[astral oyster]

mlynar died instead

[ancient hearth]

Nian isn’t going to be killing the boss any day soon. Mlynar will be back.

[versed monolith]

thanks for the tip before, finally managed to clear it 😭

last hell stage of each chapter and have me spending 7-8 hours of attempts on them, name a more iconic duo

[ancient hearth]

I see a mountain shaped gap below ambriel.

[cosmic dagger]

W clear good sir

[versed monolith]

so true

[vital arrow]

Flametail pretty good

A vanguard that can actually throw hands

[glass monolith]

Have you ever used S3 Bagpipe?

[vital arrow]

Bagpipe is bagpipe

[glass monolith]

Her third skill just shreds stuff. S2 is "But why not just Texas?". And can't comment on S1 as i never cope it

[cosmic dagger]

Solid pioneer that takes an interesting route of dodge tanking for survivability

She's about middle of the pack wrt her fellow 6*s, but a strong op nevertheless

[glass monolith]

Strong stage opener

And she gets -4 DP first deploy module, right?

[cosmic dagger]

Yeppers

[glass monolith]

Friendship over with myrtle addiction, Flametail addiction is my new friend

[graceful bear]

update:
Cuora still got one-tapped by steam knight through S2 and mod3

[sick ridge]

Just got siege, would she be a replacement for Texas or blacknight

[glass monolith]

HP issue

[vital arrow]

Either works

[cosmic dagger]

Off skill she die for sure, on skill she should live

[vital arrow]

Texas is like paper and blacknight is kinda tedious to use

[glass monolith]

Her S2 can help deal with weak enemy spam.... That's all i can say about her

[vital arrow]

But dependin on your progression siege might actually be not that worth raising

[sick ridge]

My blacknight is e2 20 and Texas is E1 70

[glass monolith]

Her third skill didn't age well

[vital arrow]

Where are you in the story

[sick ridge]

5-6

[vital arrow]

Well she should still be good

[sick ridge]

Yeah just didn’t know if she was worth the mats

[vital arrow]

Do you have the likes of bagpipe or mountain

[sick ridge]

Nah I just lost my 50/50 for bagpipe to siege 💀

[astral oyster]

ok nian with only 1 stainless turret cannot survive SK rockets duly noted

[vital arrow]

Well you could raise her

She's still pretty solid, but she's pretty much a statstick pioneer

[sick ridge]

alright thanks for letting me know

My VG roster is suffering

[vital arrow]

If you ask me, you don't need a stacked vg roster

[glass monolith]

Rockets is arts, and rockets are split between shit in range focusing higher % of HP, so as long as your operator survives 1080 arts damage or Gravel you don't care if it in range

Turret is physical damage reduction

[astral oyster]

only physical DR welp that sucks

[astral oyster]

how much ops do i need to stack to make nian survive?

better qeustion

how much total dmg rocket barrage deal

[glass monolith]

50% of boss ATK 8 times phase 1 and maybe(need to double check) when you kill him
40% of boss ATK 8 times phase 2

so 1080 and 864 per hit

[astral oyster]

hmmm so 2-3ops can technically tank it

with nian and mlynar hp pool

[glass monolith]

And your medics might land heal in between, it is not instant triple punch

[astral oyster]

welp

time to sleep

mald tmr

i am very close

[glass monolith]

Me at 2:30 am after being face rolled by H11-1

[astral oyster]

me at 2.51am

brain doesnt even work

[gentle finch]

an app

ptilop.sys

also i think your flametail does nothing because she's e0 lvl1

also what's boss stats in H11-4 vs H11-2

[glass monolith]

They are same but H11-4 gains 30% damage reduction during skill (And well, both gains immunity to self stun)

2880 def if for real

wait H11-2 has damage reduction as well?

[lethal dragon]

https://youtu.be/DalwOTcW-6A

Pog

[glass monolith]

Okay h11-4 just gain tile ban if there was nothing on tile when rocket barrage starts

[glass monolith]

I love how on 1:20 Kroos on purpose don't proc stun

[hazy totem]

The most unnecessary complex synergy. Heidi second Talent to boost Saria S2 cycle who feeds SP to Fiammetta and Gavial

[drifting agate]

mhr, how do i deal with mandra on H9-6 before she reaches the upper half of the map

most pillars can only be dropped north

[soft crystal]

On her second phase you drop a pillar on herself

[drifting agate]

i think i need a pillar for phase 1 too

absurdly tanky

[soft crystal]

Well

You just have to get through the 1st phase even eith the reduction

[drifting agate]

well then, who can punch through that armor

[soft crystal]

Anyone can, just stall her and wittle her down slowly

[drifting agate]

you telling me someone can actually stall her?

[soft crystal]

Yes

With enough healers and defenders you can stall her

[drifting agate]

i guess i could try with nightingale if it's arts damage

[soft crystal]

Yes ng is good for that

[glass monolith]

Bring someone with high HP (Not like you need all that DEF against arts)

And medics

[drifting agate]

okay, nightingale with saria and nearlter behind works

[graceful bear]

hmmm
I'm considering spending some scraps to M3 Mousse to cheese the boss

perma 40% attack down means steam knight can't do anything

[livid delta]

Wtf an actual strategy

[graceful bear]

My current main problem is using Kal'tsit to hold the left lane

dogs hit too hard

[livid delta]

I used gravel to space the dogs

So they're not piling up

Almost killed my Blaze

[graceful bear]

I'm wondering if Gavial + a 3* will work better

[eager gate]

won't it just wear off when he flies, even before the 1st rocket?

[latent anvil]

[gentle finch]

what stage

[latent anvil]

probably h11-4

[cursive mango]

is there any point of doing a perfect annhilition letting nothing through?

[latent anvil]

well it depends on 400 kill or not

[cursive mango]

on 400k

[latent anvil]

400 kill

[gentle finch]

yes

[gleaming lodge]

400 kills = perfect in general

[cursive mango]

oh

[gentle finch]

you get the most orundum

[gleaming lodge]

there are some annis where you need more, like the furniture hunt (IW) anni

[cursive mango]

so you can let 1 or 4 in and its oki

[latent anvil]

on which anni

[cursive mango]

the first 3

[gleaming lodge]

and some where you can leak stuff, like NL anni (bloodblades can always leak)

[gentle finch]

you can but it not recommended

[latent anvil]

nah dont let any leak in the first 3

[gleaming lodge]

no

[latent anvil]

leaks not equal kill

[gleaming lodge]

the general rule in this game is you can never leak

[gentle finch]

if you leak then you lose orundum

[cursive mango]

ohh

[latent anvil]

later annihilations like annihilation 14 allow you

but thats different

if youre doing the first three annihilations, dont let any leak

[cursive mango]

i let a few leak in the 2nd and 3rd ones

but i havent been able to cleanly do those yet

[vital arrow]

Try 0 leak in 2nd one

3rd one is hard so its fine ig

But when you do your weeklies just auto anni 2

[latent anvil]

the first clear rewards for 400 kills are also nice

yeah you can just procrastinate anni3 till way later, its not an easy auto

[vital arrow]

Not doing perfect run isn't efficient

[cursive mango]

ye I just tried my best to clear them as much as I could

to get the limit increase

[latent anvil]

the limit increase is from the rotating one

if im remembering correctly

[vital arrow]

Anni 2 and 3 also has it

[latent anvil]

oh

[vital arrow]

Up to 1700 from anni 3

Then 100 more from rotating

[latent anvil]

[cursive mango]

got up to my max

so ive done 400 383 and 347 for the first 3

[latent anvil]

what are you dying to in the second one

[cursive mango]

so annhil 2 gives more than annhil 1?

not sure

i think I afk'ed for like 1 min