strategy

[frigid kite]

Very big numbers

[proud drift]

question tho

[lethal dragon]

2k Def?

[proud drift]

how many cars come out of there

can I just gnosis+kaltsit copium it

[frigid kite]

2

[ancient hearth]

Hoshi and Nian can tank the hit if very high level with defense skills up

[proud drift]

huh

only 2 total?

[ancient hearth]

but it's much better to shamare or even mousse the steam knight

because it's a multihit

[lethal dragon]

Can spalter S3 solo tank with a healer?

[frigid kite]

Just use the squirrel S3

[lethal dragon]

I need to try it hmm

[proud drift]

this stage makes me wish I had 4 eyes

[tidal sedge]

not hard as the shangshu trail annil

[proud drift]

that one is piss easy

[frigid kite]

Interesting take

[ancient hearth]

the math isn't favorable

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882236058383843359.png?quality=lossless

[ancient hearth]

it's 3 hits, and each hit can 1 shot flametail, and flametail has a 85% chance to dodge each hit

[tidal sedge]

well I have to keep and eye on them to make sure no leak or thorn die

[frigid kite]

Well the squirrel will have to dodge

Or she dies

[ancient hearth]

the chance of getting 1 shot is 1-(0.85)^3, which is

[frigid kite]

Up to her

[ancient hearth]

39%

which is actually pretty high

[frigid kite]

The dodge should be 100%

[ancient hearth]

it isn't

[frigid kite]

But oh well we cant have good ebenholz neither 100% dodges

[ancient hearth]

the 85% dodge from S3M3 and 25% innate dodge are not additive

[cosmic dagger]

My dudes never taken a stats course

Look up inclusion-exclusion principle

[ancient hearth]

the actual dodge chance is 1-(.2 * .75) = 0.85

[cosmic dagger]

Should clear things up

[frigid kite]

Just to clarify, i'm trolling 💀

[ancient hearth]

.2 being the 20% of being hit through S3, and the .75 being the chance of being hit through the E2 talent

so since the H stage steam knight does 2.7k damage 3 times in the charge attack, she'll have to dodge 3 times consequtively since the atk will actually kill her in 1 hit

[cosmic dagger]

Doesn't matter if you're trolling or not, someone who sees it might get misguided

[ancient hearth]

so 1-(0.85)^3 is the chance of her getting hit at least once

[cosmic dagger]

And I think you're just that dumb and retroactively decided you're trolling

[ancient hearth]

which is 38.59%

which is actually pretty fucking high if you're trying to stall

[limpid siren]

man you do this in #strategy too and tbh it's just fuckin' annoying

[cosmic dagger]

Brother this is strategy

[frigid kite]

alright alright i'll take a break from it

[limpid siren]

lol

[frigid kite]

Jeez

[limpid siren]

true

[proud drift]

wtf

vore eats through surtr

[cosmic dagger]

You actively wants surtr to get vore'd

0 redeploy my beloved

[ancient hearth]

the vore resets the redeploy time

[proud drift]

wait

does it actually

wtf

[ancient hearth]

S2 NTRK jumps into the vore's maw willingly

[proud drift]

well

doesn't reset dp cost sadly

[dusky grove]

have fun with depth perception

[scarlet fulcrum]

Abusing devour pretty fun tbh

[dusky grove]

people doing H11-x
also me when i only did H9-6 yesterday

🗿

[proud drift]

ok finally done with this cringe stage

only 11-15 is hard right

well

"hard"

a.k.a how fast can you spawnkill artillery

[limpid siren]

let them all come to you

and take the pounding

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its juicy PO, some ppl just cant resist

[limpid siren]

as god intended

[proud drift]

nah

that's for these

[ancient hearth]

schwarz S3 can camp that spawn if this is adverse

[limpid siren]

sending those over the angry tile is funny as fuck tbh

[ancient hearth]

iirc she kills in 3 or 4 shots

[limpid siren]

cheeky little prank

[proud drift]

Idk I just can't unsee them as anything but a machine intended for pleasure purposes

their visual design is so wrong

[limpid siren]

#arknights tier comment

[ancient hearth]

no cap, the real difficulty of H11-4 are the dogs

I don't know how they do that much damage

wtf are they feeding them?

I need to look up the stats of their dot ability, it's gotta either be stacking or be some nutty number

[limpid siren]

@viscid mist

[proud drift]

huh you can silence dogs

[viscid mist]

honestly the killer from h11-4 are the cancer catapults

[ancient hearth]

they don't target ranged units though, so ebenholz can camp them

10 res

[lethal dragon]

Carts are the real annoyance
You can outheal dogs

But carts have poison and they hit hard

[ancient hearth]

shrug, I had a built eben and he was basically clearing them out at spawn

[turbid badge]

The new w module is really good right?

[ancient hearth]

the only time they started not dying before moving is when he got distracted by dogs

who are, somehow, elite enemies

[turbid badge]

since her module work well w atk scaling skills

[storm current]

Its ok

Better than the first at least

[turbid badge]

yea

atleast better than first

[storm current]

Fiam 2nd mod is hopefully good tho

With stronger vigor like pallas

[proud drift]

fia getting 2nd mod?

[storm current]

Every 6* will eventually get 2

Hopefully

[proud drift]

if first mod is aspd-based, the 2nd mod should be vigor-based

[turbid badge]

It should be tood

good

more atack

[proud drift]

question is whether they make the vigor bigger

or make her interact with allied units

[turbid badge]

or decrease health drain

[proud drift]

and if they make vigor bigger

[turbid badge]

[proud drift]

SSS will be very funny

decreased health drain would be cringe, but welcome

[storm current]

Easier to pair with skalter

[turbid badge]

they probably decrease the vigor buff threshold

from 80% to like 70% idk i feel like it like mushas xd

[proud drift]

[solid dew]

Ahem…

f u h10-1

[proud drift]

heh

wait until 10-3

[storm current]

Wait until you see h10-3

[proud drift]

this was warmup

[solid dew]

So I’ve heard

[proud drift]

10-2 is calm before the storm

[solid dew]

Watch me beat it way faster or something lol

x to doubt

[tidal sedge]

H10-2 is pretty easy to beat, it's basically a tutorial on using Manfred to manipulate cannon for H10-3

[proud drift]

ya 10-2 is easiest one

[lethal dragon]

Move on to chapter 11
You gonna miss full refund

[storm current]

At least you have NG

Thats like half the brain dmg gone

[proud drift]

loli he has ng but

he doesn't have true dmg

[solid dew]

0-0 is still 0 ngl

[proud drift]

he can't oneshot fred

[tidal sedge]

Manfred baiting time ig

[storm current]

Just mlynar

Kekw

[solid dew]

I can one cycle him, but it takes 3 deployment slots lol

[proud drift]

you need to oneshot him twice

if you want an easy time

and fast

[solid dew]

Is there no killgates or something, so they just all come at you

[proud drift]

there is one killgate but the issue is

think of cc10

what was the most annoying challenge in cc10

[solid dew]

I barely got risk 8 so don’t even ask me lol

[proud drift]

unlucky

[solid dew]

Not unlucky, skill issue

[quartz pendant]

Alrighty, what's a good borrow for Patriot fight, I placed Mudrock on the wrong spot and I found a video showing me where to place the mines

But since I don't have the ops the video has, I may need to borrow

Wait I can just grab fucking. Mylnar

[proud drift]

Mlynar or kaltsit

Pick your poison

[gray stone]

H11-1 is ass

H11-2 is SilverAsh and Ebenholz carry

time to H11-3

[little ravine]

anyone else found h11-1 way harder than the other h stages

[sonic willow]

Mlynar is easy borrow

[gray stone]

Thorns and Mlynar bait

[lethal dragon]

Meh

[gray stone]

H11-1 is heavy physical

[lethal dragon]

Only 4 was hard

[quartz pendant]

I have Kal'stit

So I can grab Mynlar

But setting Mudrock and Mylnar is the tough part

[gray stone]

ok H11-3 is way too easy

Nearl just cheese the devourer lane super hard

[proud drift]

blergh low rarity preset

[foggy grove]

wtf is 11-3

[gray stone]

blessed

[foggy grove]

the diff jump down

[livid delta]

stalling steamknight with Skadi has to be the highlight of this series of H releases

when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object

[quartz pendant]

Fuck, beat the stage with 1 life left

I'll take it

[proud drift]

2*

how even

mudrock solos the stage

only thing you can leak is patriot

[lethal dragon]

Eh the artillery spam and cart spam was more annoying than having to cut some trees
For me it's H11-4>>>>>>>>> H11-1 >H11-3 > H11-2

[quartz pendant]

Uh WRONG

He nuked Nightingale and Exu so the pressure on Saria got worse letting 2 slip

[proud drift]

but you kill him in one cycle

with kaltsit

[quartz pendant]

I barely managed to slap down Golden and Eyja

[proud drift]

and mlynar

[quartz pendant]

And I had Mudrock and Mylnar kill Patriot

[proud drift]

why would you have mudrock kill patriot

[quartz pendant]

Kal'stit was with Saria to hold off the big guys

[proud drift]

you place mudrock bottom left blue box

and forget mobs exist for the most part

[turbid badge]

Use kal to kill pat

[proud drift]

kaltsit can solo patriot's p1

[turbid badge]

yea

and than just reposition

for stage 2

[hidden axle]

or wait till penance release and solo the stage with her

[turbid badge]

the game also goves u 15 mines

Tht do 2k true damage

[proud drift]

10* (?)

[turbid badge]

oh 10

but yeah still alot

[quartz pendant]

I did use the mines

But his little spear throw still hurted my ops

[turbid badge]

oh

Just bait

[quartz pendant]

But a win is a win, I'll take it

[turbid badge]

It throws at farthest ranged operator

[turbid badge]

2 star?

[quartz pendant]

Yeah

[proud drift]

that's an L

[turbid badge]

whyyy agan

wait wtf

u leak pat?

[foggy grove]

pov ng haver

[quartz pendant]

I'm reading the story, and no I didn't leak pat

[foggy grove]

[quartz pendant]

I killed pat, 2 claw boys managed to leak

[turbid badge]

yea h-11-1 worst one

out of 3

[foggy grove]

11-1 is the worst so far
i'll see 11-4 soon

[sonic willow]

Block them with mtn

[turbid badge]

i wonder how itll look. if u just used chalter and mlynar

[quartz pendant]

Don't have mountain

Not do I own Chalter or Mylnar

I have to borrow a lot of ops

I uhhh

Skipped a lot of banners due to break

[hollow forum]

you can do 7-18 with just mudrock and surtr, y'know.

[proud drift]

he has kal

[hollow forum]

then even better

literally just 2 op that

[quartz pendant]

The only reason I can back to the game

[proud drift]

can you 2op through spear yeet?

[hollow forum]

yeah, I just remembered that

probably gonna need some bait

[tidal sedge]

How do core casters still not have mods?

[hollow forum]

or just borrow surtr / uncle and do it that way

[proud drift]

they do

in CN

[tidal sedge]

Damn

It's in cn

Time to wait 6 months

[proud drift]

they had them for like 2-3 months now

[tidal sedge]

Oh

Time to wait and now haze gets even more res reduction apparently

Maybe, dunno what the mods actually do

[proud drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CgBM3IXOMI

[tidal sedge]

Thx

That is quite a bit, considering it's fucking patriot were talking sbout

[proud drift]

is greythroat a good raise

[turbid badge]

haze e2 was funny to me when i first saw it lol

[proud drift]

after using her first time in the pre-set stage she seems like a lot of fun to use

[turbid badge]

Good skill SFX, funny s2. (offensive charge)

[proud drift]

wtf theresis oneshot my manticore and kal

[hollow forum]

it was actually possible to bait the attack at one point, idk if it's patched already or not, probably is

[proud drift]

well

still managed to clear it

[proud drift]

the skill sfx is honestly prob the best part

offensive charge not an issue tho

I have chetto and chen

[turbid badge]

yea i like the offensive part abt the skill

Its good for ASPD buffs

[gray stone]

...

[turbid badge]

cough cough elyisum

[signal granite]

Lol, missives ban tiles

[gray stone]

stage is ass to deal with

wither trees

shits everywhere

[turbid badge]

lmao

b bb b ut mlynar

[gray stone]

He gets bombed everywhere

Time to bring out the Cantabile

also I just realized that

my Gavialt has lower HP than Mountain

[signal granite]

Thanks godness, i barely beat H11-4 without guide

[gray stone]

I'm running like a headless chicken rn

[sonic willow]

Easiest way to clear is have gigabrick so you can stall boss and clear everything else

[gray stone]

burst

burst

bottom text

[foggy grove]

eben

[signal granite]

That "mega punch" is physical or art dmg?

[foggy grove]

eben

[proud drift]

define gigabrick

[foggy grove]

bottom

🏃‍♂️

[proud drift]

ch10 cannon levels of gigabrick?

[sonic willow]

Like E2 max mod3 M3 hoshi/nian

[turbid badge]

Nian ofc

[proud drift]

oh

I was wondering if blebishine can be a brick

I guess not

[turbid badge]

nah

Her defense too low i think

[sonic willow]

Blemishine can give gigabrick performance

[turbid badge]

lol

[sonic willow]

For about 2 seconds

[turbid badge]

But u need some support

[signal granite]

Lol, mod 1 hoshi cant hold that punch

[hollow forum]

if only the brick can consistently tank it

I borrowed a mod 3 90 hoshi and sometimes she'd just die despite tanking only the steam knight

[gray stone]

yeah
With Mountain/Mousse debuffing him constantly

[turbid badge]

dodge moment

[gray stone]

and 3rd hit is HARD

[turbid badge]

My nian can live on like 300 Hp

I use warf to instant heal

Back up

s1

or maybe i can try saria

[hollow forum]

I guess I'll just have to leave 11-4 for another day

[sonic willow]

Oh right, I use Skalter and shining on top

[turbid badge]

ill do h 11-4 later tho

[civic nest]

11-4 isn’t particularly hard
i’m not gonna back read so are u struggling

[gray stone]

11-4 or H11-4
It's night and day

[civic nest]

true

[hollow forum]

it's more of just the fact that I can't properly tank the steam knight

I could attempt to cycle units but then there's still the trees and the 2nd phase

and I have no sufficient healing

[civic nest]

so h11-4

[gray stone]

Yup it's H11-4

[hollow forum]

ie NG / shining

[civic nest]

😂

should have specify

[hollow forum]

ig

I'll just have to wait until I get my hands on skalter and some 6* medics ig

[civic nest]

skalter prob isn’t gonna help if ur whole team is dying

unless u meant s1

[hollow forum]

just the person tanking, my team is doing fine, for the most part

[plain reef]

when the steam knight does his big punch in 11-20 how much does he hit for?

[ancient hearth]

Assuming 1.2 multiplier for adverse, 2.7k physical 3 times

1.8k base atk on adverse, 1.25 multiplier on piledriver attack, 1.2 multiplier for adverse condition, then hitting 3 times

[signal granite]

All this amount just for 11-20?

[ancient hearth]

Wait, I thought he meant H stages

It’s considerably less for 11-20 normal

[gray stone]

ok cleared it

[ancient hearth]

Then it’s 1.6k atk without the adverse multiplier

[gray stone]

Really it's just subbing Gavialt to someone with higher HP than Mountain

[ancient hearth]

So 2k physical 3 times on 11-20 normal

[gray stone]

ok how about H11-4

[ancient hearth]

2.7k 3 times

[gray stone]

that requires a giga brick wth

[signal granite]

That's why hoshi cant survive without rng dodge 😔

[ancient hearth]

Hoshi and Nian can survive with skills and modules

Or max E2

[gray stone]

my man Mlynar is on the ventilator after that punch

resort to Ebenholz to make him fly as soon as possible is the best strat tbh

[proud drift]

so blemishine can tank it in 11-20

[glass monolith]

I give no F I have physical damage reduction

and yes i spend 15 minute on phase 1

[signal granite]

I think that 15% reduce dmg mod can help blemi survive

[foggy grove]

what is he punching

[proud drift]

someone covered by two stainless turrets

[glass monolith]

Eunectes S1 (with wrong 1v1 module )

[ancient hearth]

If you are having issues surviving, either use Shamare, or split box with a mousse

Atk reduction greatly neuters the piledriver because it’s a multi hit

It’s basically a weaker version of a patriot phase 1 hit

[gray stone]

Don't care + Ebenholz pilled

Best way to survive the damage is to not let him do it

[plain reef]

thanks, I'll have to bring shamare then

[foggy grove]

burst>fly>burst

facetank ng

[plain reef]

siege is definitely not surviving that

[foggy grove]

[halcyon adder]

Full oonga boonga

[foggy grove]

why siege

[glass monolith]

Wasn't it 2250 3 times?

If H11-4 empowers piledriver, i will fucking bring AH squad

I don't give a F how much you deal i reduce 60%

[halcyon adder]

I tanked with zumama

[ancient hearth]

My math was 1.8k base attack, 1.25 multiplier on the piledriver, and 1.2 multiplier for adverse buff to enemies

[glass monolith]

THERE IS ADVERSE BUFF TO BOSS?

[ancient hearth]

Pretty sure adverts buffs everything

[proud drift]

does adverse have CM buff?

[ancient hearth]

Iirc correctly ch11 adverse was a 20% buff to enemy stats, correct me if I’m wrong

[glass monolith]

MOTHERF I DIDN'T MATH FOR IT

How the fuck i am alive

[proud drift]

tfw

looking at 11-20 mapark

and I'm like

"stage looks easy wtf almost no enemies and it's all fliers"

[foggy grove]

cute car

just snipe them

[ancient hearth]

He’s a thicc boi

So it is a 20% buff it seems

[plain reef]

story duh

[ancient hearth]

11-20 isn’t really shory, it is more a what if

11-19 is the story

And the story is that the gang gets their ass beat

[glass monolith]

Ah yes, good old story accuracy

[latent monolith]

I just astgenne top lane ones

Surtr + mlynar bottom lane

Ofc mlynar was largely targeting the boss

[glass monolith]

I have Astgenne on bot, she reaches bottom ones and chains from boss to almost delete top ones

[full marlin]

Got a question, when trio of steam machines spawn up top, does the middle one go right or left?

[latent anvil]

Left

[full marlin]

Shesh ok, then not all is lost, thank you

[latent anvil]

I just tried the stage and all is lost

[full marlin]

Lol, tell me about it

[latent anvil]

I am not having fun here

[turbid badge]

Lol

just use mlynar

[latent anvil]

Ew

[turbid badge]

[latent anvil]

Mine is e1 23

[turbid badge]

Juse use Surtr

[full marlin]

I used him , surtr too

[latent anvil]

Not working, haven't even figured out my start yet

Nian s2 or 3 for boss

[turbid badge]

2??

3 does nothing

the defense buffs only buff allies

[latent anvil]

Oh

That's new

[full marlin]

What the hell, is that an enemy spawn chart?? Where can I find this

[turbid badge]

arkmap

[full marlin]

Bruh

I wanted this for so long

[latent anvil]

That's prts

It also show you where they go

[glass monolith]

Only time i used enemy chart for something.... Was counting number of SN dogs

Hey, found it

[craggy turret]

11-12 adverse? The main problem is the cannons killing whatever op I have on the right lane. Mountain can handle the red box with the atk up tile with the help of lumen, the top red tile is the problem. I've tried gavi and hoshi, but both can't tank the cannons and the incoming enemies at the same time, and the way I have lumen placed, I can't have them be the target of two healers at once either, cuz the cannon will target the healer first. I've tried surtring the lane, but she can't survive long enough, and mly skill cycle is too long + lumen can't reach him. Here are my overall built ops

[glass monolith]

What if... Gravel on left and while cannon use skill on her drop gnosis in middle

As random ass suggestion because i just threw corpses at cannons until Mlynar charge

[craggy turret]

I don't really get it?

So...gravel?

[glass monolith]

Deploy gravel. Cannon use skill. While cannon use skill they don't attack. One ranged tile in middle near spawns is too far from skill. You have time to try some random Gnosis/Eyja bullshit idk. When cannons skill run out just place something else on left to keep them distracted

[craggy turret]

I haven't built gravel...

I have a cantab? Phantom too

[proud drift]

Is the cannon targeting prio
Max hp%>last deployed
Or
Max hp%>highest flat health>last deployed

[craggy turret]

Yaaaa, I'm not really sure bout what I'm supposed to do here

[glass monolith]

Skill priority highest max HP
Skill damage priority highest current % in 3x3

[glass monolith]

DUDE

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829111228286763015/968816016203321364/bait.gif

Do you need to "build" her to do that?

[craggy turret]

Would just bring along any fast redeploy or just bait with bagpipe

[proud drift]

Minus re-read what I asked

Or wait

I’m dum

It’s max hp not current hp

Why did I even think it’s current hp

[craggy turret]

Max % hp or just plain Max hp?

[latent monolith]

Because the actual missiles are highest current hp %

[wary wing]

max % hp doesn't exist

[surreal star]

max% hp

is 100%

[latent monolith]

The box is summoned at highest absolute hp

[craggy turret]

Yes

[glass monolith]

Plain max HP when it selected WHO to skill at.
Current % HP when it selects WHO is damaged in 3x3 zone.
Also cannon selected target for next shot before pervious one hits, so it basically double hits every time

[proud drift]

Why did I think entire time it’s current hp

Reading is hard

[glass monolith]

and last deployed logic applies to current % HP part, because where the fuck you find 2 identical max HP to check other one out

[craggy turret]

Well

Shit

[wary wing]

it doesnt

[elder flume]

me levelling operators to match which ones can attain the same max hp

[proud drift]

If the game works with decimals it’s probably near impossible to find two identical max hps

[wary wing]

last deployed logic only applies to normal attacks

[proud drift]

Though that sounds like something Rain would know or try to find out

[glass monolith]

Give me copper bar i will slap him

[elder flume]

hg changed the coding

[tidal sedge]

Couldn't you just use summons

[elder flume]

hatred is changed but last deployed still occurs

[proud drift]

Oh

You have a point

Summons do have same hp

[glass monolith]

But i don't waaaanaaa to use ling

[latent monolith]

Just use scene

[craggy turret]

I have no scene

[elder flume]

dc is best investment due to 50% dodge

[craggy turret]

DC?

[elder flume]

deepcolor

[craggy turret]

Not built

[foggy grove]

you have nightingale

to make cannon non issue

[craggy turret]

It deals arts?

[foggy grove]

yes

[craggy turret]

I thought it was Phys dmg

[foggy grove]

the skill

normal atk phys

[craggy turret]

Where place her?

[foggy grove]

what's your layout?

[latent monolith]

With the cannon either you bait it to the middle of nowhere or you group all your ops and use an aoe medic

With NG you'd do the latter

[foggy grove]

yeah

[craggy turret]

My main team or my overall ops?

[latent monolith]

How are you placing your ops on the stage

[craggy turret]

This is what I've been doing so far

[foggy grove]

yeah you don't need mountain tile

you can spwancamp that one with any caster

ng can be on the middle

[craggy turret]

No lumen?

For Ng off skill

[foggy grove]

can use lumen on left tile

[glass monolith]

[foggy grove]

something like this

[craggy turret]

You just said caster spawn camp there

[foggy grove]

eyja tile can be any caster

[craggy turret]

Does Amiya caster work?

[foggy grove]

ye

my brain is barely functioning here,it's so hot

[craggy turret]

And mly can handle the roots?

[foggy grove]

you can surtr the root later

or mlynar

can leave them last

[wary wing]

? he's targeting eunectes

what's your point

[craggy turret]

Can stainless cannons help with the ballistas?

[glass monolith]

Video 1 - He attack eunectes first who was last deployed.
Video 2 - He attacks Heavyrain first who was last deployed

"Only normal attacks" my ass

[wary wing]

[glass monolith]

[neat skiff]

Ok, it's pretty poggers that Skadi E2L90 MYT3 + Gladiia T3 module can tank the H11-4 boss. You need a bunch of healing but she lives with like 4% HP.

[glass monolith]

Pathetic (Proceeds to slam extra 20% 20% and 14% damage reductions)

[neat skiff]

Oi, at least it works unlike Nian or Hoshi who get insta deleted without max Shining and Skalter.

[glass monolith]

Meanwhile I just have 45% damage reduction snek

[neat skiff]

I'm talking H11-4. 2 is much easier to tank. Nian with no skill and only 2 healers is all you need.

[glass monolith]

Well H11-4 is same deal but also deal with boxes, wasn't it

How hard can it possibly be

[neat skiff]

The boss HURTS.

[glass monolith]

Same boss stats as H11-2 and I just facetanked

Or I am unaware of something?

H stage effect should be boss damage reduction

[sonic willow]

game forcing you to tank hard hitting bosses 🤡

[neat skiff]

While apparently they are the same H11-2 I only needed NG, Shining and guard Amiya to keep Nian alive.
H11-4 NG, Shining, Lumen, guard Amiya and Skalter inside Shining range could not keep her alive off skill.

The bosses charge attack does 3 hits of 2700. H11-2 it didn't feel like that, H11-4 it definitely did.

[glass monolith]

Techically i can just stall boss for entire stage on endless supply of Gravels and Roberta devices or having Kroos alter cancel any of boss charges.
But it is funnier to plain facetank

[deft ingot]

Can someone help me with 2-8

[sonic willow]

does roberta refresh enough device for every triple-hit

[sonic willow]

show squad

[deft ingot]

Ok gimme a sec

[glass monolith]

Uh... Not really. But it will win some time

[sonic willow]

that's the annoying part I'd really rather not have to cycle fodder blocker

[deft ingot]

Do not know if this is good for a starter

[glass monolith]

Phantom S1 and Gravel S2 for days

[sonic willow]

not great, but the game is easy enough to clear without broken units anyway

[glass monolith]

3 tanks might be overkill for early, you might want more snipers because game loves to spam drones. Never used Jackie like characters

[sonic willow]

unrelated to clearing 2-8, but have you used your 5star selectors already? @deft ingot

[tidal sedge]

Jackie is not a good brwler

[deft ingot]

Idk what that is

[sonic willow]

you can get lappland for free, great unit

[tidal sedge]

yea

Just start from 3* first

then go up

I only can see 7 unit good for starter

[sonic willow]

Check your depot/inventory @deft ingot

[tidal sedge]

u still keep it until now?

[deft ingot]

I already used that is that bad news?

[sonic willow]

you used both?

you get 1 big and 1 small selector

[deft ingot]

Yep

[sonic willow]

well, that's a bit sad. surely you didn't use it on skyfire

[tidal sedge]

Gummy Gravel Cuora Hazel Hibiscus and Shaw for starter

wait what did u choose?

[deft ingot]

Liskarm and silence

[tidal sedge]

carry chapter 6 later

[sonic willow]

@deft ingot show your collection sort by rarity
you want to replace jackie, skyfire, haze, hibiscus
slot in kroos, steward, other 2 depends

[deft ingot]

Oki

My whole collection?

[tidal sedge]

yes

[glass monolith]

Rarity sorted first page would do

[sonic willow]

well, not really since we need to fill the roster mostlikely with lower rarity

[glass monolith]

Because it is almost guaranteed you will have everyone but gacha only cardigan from 3* in no time

[tidal sedge]

it is not like u can use high rarity in no time

[deft ingot]

There is my whole collection

[glass monolith]

He is chapter 2. He can't have THAT many operators, can he?

[deft ingot]

Oh wait missed one picture

Nvm

[sonic willow]

drop: skyfire jackie haze cuora
add: steward cutter vigna kroos
@deft ingot

[deft ingot]

Is that all

[sonic willow]

for this stage yeah, but in general shaw isn't used (push utility)
you can replace shaw with skyfire (placeholder)

[neat skiff]

Lot of recruit ops in that list.

[deft ingot]

Alright I'll go try it out

[tidal sedge]

dont forget to manage DP

[deft ingot]

Dp?

Oh yeah that

[sonic willow]

I recommend placing shaw like 2 tiles below the left blue box

allows shaw to catch the jetpack guys that spawn near the blue box

[foggy grove]

oh h11-4 is not hard

just nuke and nuke

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah why not ?
If they stalled a bit and did a lot of recruitment that's more than reasonable

[full marlin]

So what eunectes power is needed to tank the knight charged attack? I got E2 60 S3m3 mod x lv 1, plus shining s3m3. I've heard that eunectes' 1st skill is relevant here?

In h11-4

[gleaming lodge]

Ideally you would've Eunectes on S3 (activated) do the tanking, which gives you time to kill the boss

[crimson cedar]

does anyone have skill 2 m3 thorns i can borrow

[gleaming lodge]

#friend-id ?

[soft crystal]

H11-4 is pretty hard

Glad im done with it

[eager gate]

Brainrot clears
Took me 1 attempt too many but I'm glad that I noticed tiles on left

[gleaming lodge]

Flint user

[eager gate]

Vore guys are very low def and she's block0 so deals with them ok
Plus I raised her recently and she's novel

This statblock of a boss

Prolly more def than phase1 Pat

[scarlet ledge]

https://youtu.be/Lh2hlx9Gov4

[rocky anvil]

What's the general strategy for H11-4? I have an idea, but I'm not even sure if it will work or not.

[eager gate]

TIL Sham is like 100% uptime with Suzu

[soft crystal]

does mudrock s3 bait the missiles btw

[sonic willow]

tank up with nian hoshi
burst
stall with rotating fodder blockers

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

[sonic willow]

3 options

[soft crystal]

should have used muds3 for my clear

i didnt think of that

noo

[sonic willow]

wait what

[eager gate]

not 100%, but there's 3 seconds of downtime I'm seeing? lemme count

[soft crystal]

i dont think their skill cycles being inline with each other really makes sense

when both skills do different things

[foggy grove]

Suzu sp support

[eager gate]

yes, 3 seconds of downtime when x2
So 6 downtime, which is pretty low for what it does

[sonic willow]

I mean

if that works to make hoshi tank knight consistently

[soft crystal]

thats pretty neat

[sonic willow]

♿

[glass monolith]

Phase 1 boss does 1 barrage of 50% ATK_scale rockets
Phase 2 boss does 2 barrages of 40% ATK_scale rockets
Killing phase 1 boss triggers 2 barrages of 50% ATK_scale rockets?

[sonic willow]

time to get off my ass and finish shamare mastery

[foggy grove]

Nafkin maf it's 7s downtime

Which still pretty cool

[eager gate]

66% uptime is basically 100 if its enough to block all the important hits

[glass monolith]

Did you just outstat stick 2880 def boss

[soft crystal]

i used

very fun

[foggy grove]

I borrowed module less hoshi
Sham and fast burst make it a cakewalk

[eager gate]

Oh damn its 2900 even
probably possible to do just abyssal but I'm not sure malding over it is worth so I'll just do aegir

[cursive mango]

What is the 2nd easiest annihilation?

[glass monolith]

second one?

[cursive mango]

I beat the first one

Chernobog I think it was

[glass monolith]

Yes.

[limpid siren]

Lungmen Outskirts should be your next target

[cursive mango]

Rightio I’ll take a look thanks

[limpid siren]

you can find it in the Yan-Lungmen section

E1 30ish is the usual benchmark for newer players

[cursive mango]

That’s right about my level

[limpid siren]

best of luck

ask anyone but Minus if you need help

[glass monolith]

[cursive mango]

[sonic willow]

lungmen outskirts

[glass monolith]

Not even offended because my strategies are far from optimal and more meme

[cursive mango]

Ifrit has done a lot of brute force work, I see why she is good

[limpid siren]

she's quite a powerhouse in many annihilation stages

[glass monolith]

Ending of H11-3 is uh... Not nice

[scarlet ledge]

kek

[glad barn]

wrong channel whoops

[scarlet ledge]

@storm current ...5 5★ offrate

no paprika

[storm current]

how many rollls

[scarlet ledge]

25+

no paprika

got 3 6★

2 stianless and 1 saga dupe

[storm current]

lol

[scarlet ledge]

shit game

bro

i just qant my paprika

[novel pivot]

H11-4 is so cancer

[scarlet ledge]

kek

[foggy grove]

i did it on 2nd try

[novel pivot]

I eunectes'd the boss

[scarlet ledge]

chungus pro

teach

[foggy grove]

less attempt then my h11-1

[novel pivot]

[foggy grove]

[scarlet ledge]

kek h11-1 middle is a mess

caster spam

[foggy grove]

yeah i'm flustered with the caster

[novel pivot]

Make ch 11 anni with caster flood tnx

[glass monolith]

LE event is annihilation on CN.
Do you law epic sax guys?
Do you love having SP regen down risk because you exist?

[mossy chasm]

https://imgur.com/a/wuJbpZM

Any advice for anni 3?

[foggy grove]

that roster is more then enough to just unga bunga

[hollow forum]

yeah

[foggy grove]

are you failing or just didn't try yet?

[mossy chasm]

I tried awhile ago

[hollow forum]

is there are specific part that you struggled with or?

[mossy chasm]

Got 6/8

I remember the end becoming overwhelming but maybe I'll just give it a shot and see how it goes

Any good team I should try it with?

[foggy grove]

ptilo plat mlynar poze galter and just fill the rest with whatever you fancy

can set up ifrit lane if you want

[hollow forum]

you can probably fill in smth like, kroos, gummy, ifrit lane, ect

at 350 there's a lot of enemies, but mlynar alone just kind of, deletes them anyway

[astral oyster]

h11-2 im at the last stretch but SK steamrolled to fast during his buffed stat my mlynar doesnt kill him fast enough

[novel pivot]

[hollow forum]

[astral oyster]

nvm i won

[foggy grove]

ssg pro

[hollow forum]

now go clear h11-4

[astral oyster]

not another SK

where are all the low lvl ling clears

[hollow forum]

I've pretty much given up hope on clearing it for the time being

[copper estuary]

Does anybody here have a built hoshi?

[versed monolith]

I have been at it for hours and making no progress, Steam Knight just instakilling the support lvl 90 S2M3 Hoshiguma not that I can handle the mobs either

Mountain needing a healer to even 1v1 the stupid dogs

[copper estuary]

Even with mod?

[hollow forum]

yeah hoshi ain't cutting it

even with mod 3 you're literally coping with rng

because dodge

[eager gate]

if you can't block it
bind it in Chen range

[copper estuary]

Well you only need to do it once,but it's still a pain.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dog only have ~240 def at h11-4 iirc

But over 800 atk, 840 or smt

[glass monolith]

940, and apply dot

Because fuck you

[foggy grove]

it's elite dog with dot

[versed monolith]

oniy hope I have is finding something tanky enough I can permastall right side while dealing with the rest of the mess

[latent monolith]

The steam knight one shot is a triple hit, each hit dealing 2700 damage in h11-4

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh its 940

[glass monolith]

My will use ultimate weapon of final war - friend support skadi

[hollow forum]

kal actually holds the lane fairly well

but obv it's not really the mobs you're worrying about

[scarlet fulcrum]

dogs barely matter tbh

[glass monolith]

(Ice cream cart sounds in bacground)

[latent monolith]

How would cycling between mud S3 and shamare S2 tank the boss

[indigo pulsar]

taking a page from this 4 star only clear, just use mousse to debuff the boss's attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0FvJiDf_ec

[copper estuary]

At bare minimum you need to dodge at least one, which os fine if you're just doing it once imo.

[latent monolith]

Yeah boss atk debuffs are big

[latent monolith]

Can you kill the boss before it attacks 10 times though

Boss has 96k hp

[versed monolith]

how do you even deal with those, I can Surtr a wave, but not the next one
I'm trying to use SilverAsh but the fart clouds from those carts just kill him lol

[hollow forum]

speaking of cart

I found out that firewatch s2 can actually work decently, since they tend to stay around for a tiny bit after spawning

[copper estuary]

Yes,if it's the first phase and just rotate corpses

Between mud,gav and hoshi and ntrk

Just need hoshi to survive the first phase

[indigo pulsar]

specter alter can also tank the boss for quite a while, even longer if you get lucky with when she turns back from a doll and gets enough sp to use her skill again

[soft crystal]

I used chen for left side for h11-4

[vernal lion]

nuke completed

[copper estuary]

I don't have her built or normal spec,but if I can't do it today I'll just leave it for later once i have spalter built

[versed monolith]

will have to try it out, my one Mousse enjoyer friend gonna be excited

[tidal sedge]

Flametail s3 makes more dp than s2 overall right?

[copper estuary]

Still need s2m3 and or s3m3 and mod level 3 and tight on mats because of texas and penance.

[cursive mango]

I just recruited purestream, is she useable?

[soft crystal]

No.

Yes she is.

[cursive mango]

better than ansel?

[soft crystal]

Yes

[indigo pulsar]

pretty much any 4 star or higher medic will be better than ansel

[cursive mango]

my medics are pretty good, but I've lacked the ranged medics, so its nice to have one to invest in

[scarlet fulcrum]

new archetype nice

[cursive mango]

also I took on lungmen outstkirts

got to 393 kills

[vernal lion]

imagine not having NG

damn rockets everywhere

[gleaming lodge]

Just kill them

[gray cape]

just destroy em at spawn point

[vernal lion]

funny H2 and H4 condition

[gray cape]

I dont know what I did to cplete H11-4 tbh, just deployed everything and crossed my fingers and looked away

[vernal lion]

yea just nuke

[tall sierra]

Any1 has fiamette?

[glass monolith]

Normal whale being: Burst boss
Me for some fucking reason: 60% DR Skadi

[foggy grove]

whel skadi smh

[lethal dragon]

That's a normal skadi

[glass monolith]

Okay... I need plan

Named HOW THE FUCK TO KILL DOG?

[frail wagon]

Damages burst or just outheal their damages (which requires healer I guess)

[glass monolith]

2 dogs all it took to kill Gladiia, Skadi and leave

[frail wagon]

I used Blemishine which worked well against those early dogs

[glass monolith]

and there si 6

7-9 but dogs have shotguns

[somber falcon]

Just heal
Green numbers nullifies their DoT

[vernal lion]

let Gummy solo dog

[frail wagon]

Real

[vernal lion]

dog gives corona virus

[glass monolith]

By time i manage to deploy medic IS3 is released

[latent anvil]

Yeah I wanted to mountain right side but I think mountain left is better with these crappy dog, healer+laneholder often not enough

[somber falcon]

H11-4? Even mountain will need a medic there

[vernal lion]

mountain left is better because there's just dog but no toxic dude, and the boss will move to the right anyway

also need to care for the toxic cannon

they hurts crazy

[gleaming lodge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/879667304718282805/1103986523319312384/image.png

Weak

(average IS#3 moment)

[foggy grove]

just let the real guard kill the dog

bagpepe

[glass monolith]

(Tries to laugh only to be killed by retaliation damage caused by sound waves touching her thicc asss shield)

[gleaming lodge]

17k arts reflect

[vernal lion]

Emperor Blade: "Let me introduce myself."

[gleaming lodge]

Nah she kills him before he farts

[glass monolith]

With his extreme high stats he is most likely to F himself before 20 seconds for KO passes

[gleaming lodge]

If you face Penance back he would attack upon being blocked and take a direct hit from Penance
So that's like 50k arts

I don't remember his stats but I'm pretty sure that's a kill

[glass monolith]

i love how H11-4 give boss damage resist making MY job easier

[vernal lion]

I can nuke H4 if it's not because of the map layout

[latent anvil]

For 11-4 do you just cycle infinite ops to stall

[tall sierra]

Finally cleared hard mode

Those annoying sarkaz that eat ppl

[vernal lion]

you can use Hoshi to stall fr

[gleaming lodge]

Nah use Nian

[vernal lion]

just use both

[tall sierra]

Dun u need nian + hoshi

[vernal lion]

[tall sierra]

Incase hoshi got eaten by dat stupid sarkaz

[vernal lion]

just let it eat the summon

this mod is good, 4 block isn't cheap when you need it

[tall sierra]

Dat steam knight punch... Ouch... Send hoshi to 20% hp?

Even with nian hp boost in team

[glass monolith]

sounds like she dodged once

[tall sierra]

My hoshi never dodge at crucial time

Sigh

[glass monolith]

I didn't knew there is second wave of ice cream

Also holy fuck they cream alot of ground

[gleaming lodge]

Same lmao

[tall sierra]

At least it not those artillery

[vernal lion]

need to trust Hoshi more

[glass monolith]

My Flametail always dodges 1 less than I need

[vernal lion]

Blametail

[glass monolith]

Btw I love how NL's PV had epic fight between NTR, protecting Flametail, and Flatinum.
Meanwhile NL story: Flametail: Oh yea I sorta seen Nearl

[gleaming lodge]

Lametail

[vernal lion]

Nearl is just "I am medic, but...."

[glass monolith]

MN story is Nearl Defender soloing bros

[tall sierra]

The last tree knight killed my saria onf left lane...
Good thing i have extra defender ready

[vernal lion]

bad thing, they are gonna kill all then

[gleaming lodge]

What if you had 11 extra defenders ready

[glass monolith]

Extra defense is dead my lord, would you like to Uninstall?

[halcyon adder]

So the boss is immune to status effects when he has the shield?

[foggy grove]

ye

no stun or freeze

[vernal lion]

when he is boosting his aspd and mspd

[halcyon adder]

That means my suzuran was only a healer

[glass monolith]

Uh you still slow it i think

[halcyon adder]

🤔 so Suzu fragile works?

[foggy grove]

shield specifically only disable stun and freeze

so if slow works before,it still works

[glass monolith]

And your healthbar if you not ready

[foggy grove]

[halcyon adder]

Oh

Then suzu saria was not a bad choice

[glass monolith]

Man fuck friend supporting, while looking for Skadi i found S1 and S2 Cutters

[turbid badge]

no skadi built?

[glass monolith]

No skadi owned

[turbid badge]

im using her s3 despite being m0

[glass monolith]

Points at pot 3 Chen who stole my top tags

[foggy grove]

e0 skadoo unless i'm bored or ulpian coming

[soft crystal]

Build chen now

[foggy grove]

i'm not building them

[glass monolith]

i found s2 one and i don't care, i need body, not skills

[vernal lion]

just use Chen

[glass monolith]

How exactly Chen will tank boss without 28% gladiia's damage reduction?

[turbid badge]

Physical dodge

[glass monolith]

that's heavyrain, she in team, but she has role of "bait second target"

[halcyon adder]

Doing ah only clear?

[foggy grove]

nah he is doing janky clear

[glass monolith]

nah just abusing damage reduction to tank boss

[latent anvil]

How win

[glass monolith]

At this moment he knew, he fucked up

[latent anvil]

Bp left ntrk right I think

[vernal lion]

H4 with AH only sounds like self-destruct button

[glass monolith]

I think it is plain impossible because dog just walk up and eat you

god damn seaborn diet dogs

Back in my day on sight of seaborn dogs were running into red box or jumping into hole

[turbid badge]

Ez

ntr

[gentle finch]

😔

when sira drops i can use specter in same squad

[turbid badge]

what the hell

[latent anvil]

Nah it's lost

[turbid badge]

suzu s2

[latent anvil]

Ntrk can't 1v1

[ancient hearth]

Stall until Surtr is back

[turbid badge]

lol

ye

[halcyon adder]

That's not lost

[ancient hearth]

Bagpipe s3m3?

[halcyon adder]

Use ntrk

Surtr will be back

[gentle finch]

i thought he said stall until surtr is black

[ancient hearth]

Ntrk can probably help stall if she is on S2

If s3, rot eater will probably kill before she get get skill

[vernal lion]

after all, Mountain s2 won

[analog marlin]

can red stun steam knight skill?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Phase1 can be stunned

Phase2 rip

[vernal lion]

stunnable while the boss is not boosting aspd and mpsd

[analog marlin]

can i use balans or silver ash on its phase 2?

i heard it get weaker in phase 2

[soft crystal]

No it still has significant high defenses

Use arts

[analog marlin]

does mudrock can tank steam knight?

[scarlet fulcrum]

S3 sure

[analog marlin]

oh it can be slowed?

[vernal lion]

500 def and 0 res btw

[scarlet fulcrum]

No she tank the skill 🗿

[analog marlin]

i mean the slow from mudrock skill 3

[scarlet fulcrum]

Should be, its -mspd

[vernal lion]

use Surtr s3 to bait rocket

[halcyon adder]

Normal Slow doesn't work?

[foggy grove]

[scarlet fulcrum]

It works, but mspd just works on anything

[foggy grove]

he lost 1.5k def on phase 2

[lethal dragon]

Pain

[cosmic dagger]

You can always use mod3 nian to tank steam knight

[lethal dragon]

So uh I need to face spalter upside
That can work I think

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats it, nian built different

[gleaming lodge]

If anyone needs a maxed out mod3 Nian call me

[halcyon adder]

Hoshi can't tank him?

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u luck enough

[vernal lion]

ngl there's AFK strat for H11-4 already

[halcyon adder]

I will use eunectes to tank him

[turbid badge]

yay

I had to chuck a pillar up their mouth

so they wouldnt eat a whale

[vernal lion]

man we need a map design that there's 9 enemy paths and in the final wave, all the enemies come out at the same time from all paths

[little meteor]

any ideas how to stall the boss on H11-4? I don't have shining, nian, or Hoshi, so I've been using Liskarm + skalter + medics and she still goes splat when the mech does the big punch

[glass monolith]

Was it worth it? Well probably. Idk

[indigo pulsar]

the following are the only ones (that i've calculated so far) that can tank the hit
without help:
e2 60 nian with mod X lvl 3 (survive with 140 hp)
e2 90 nian with mod X lvl 2 (survive with 203 hp)
(assumes all 3 shield breaks and is blocking something)

with e2 shining:
e2 60 nian with mod X lvl 2 (survive with 86 hp)

with e2 shining and s2 60 skalter s2m3:
e2 90 hoshi with mod Y lvl 1 (survive with 79 hp)

[turbid badge]

Use dollkepper or

[scarlet fulcrum]

No need that fancy, just make 10 annoying different elites appear at the same time

[turbid badge]

ahave “bait” spam

[vernal lion]

you mean, 10 UFOs from all directions

[turbid badge]

and burst

[little meteor]

maybe I need to just get good with what I've been using

[vernal lion]

sounds like Ursus Desire but hardcore

[turbid badge]

What about 10 Materialist Angonizers

[vernal lion]

"holy shit"

[little meteor]

here's the squad I've been using it falls apart around 28 to 31 kills

[scarlet fulcrum]

low rarity be like

Oh u have warf uxe and kal

[gleaming lodge]

10 bondage casters would be more annoying imo

[scarlet fulcrum]

Even surtr

[glass monolith]

Skadi + Gladiia module 2 (28% DR) + Stainless S3 turrets with their backs toward Skadi 20% DR each + Quertus because i just love numbers 14% DR while high health = 54%/60% DR

[little meteor]

sadly no stainless nor skadi

[glass monolith]

Why stall with def, if you can stall with absolute stupidity

[latent anvil]

ok I won

[gleaming lodge]

I'm pretty certain DR does not scale additively

[indigo pulsar]

if you have a mousse, she can cut the boss's attack by a significant enough amount to let almost any defender survive

[turbid badge]

these rot chases are something

[lethal dragon]

Pain

[vernal lion]

funny toxic cannon, 4 hits and oneshot full HP Horn

[glass monolith]

That's multiplicative 28% + 20% + 20% + 14% = 60.37%

[foggy grove]

but stainless device is multiplicative with itself

so 2 device = 36 %

[glass monolith]

Stainless > Gladiia confirmed

I hope there will be no need to repeat that madness in future events