strategy

[lethal dragon]

It's same

[proud drift]

Is adverse farming same as standard?

[turbid badge]

ye

[proud drift]

Oh

[hollow forum]

fair enough, then

[proud drift]

TIL

[turbid badge]

the difference is very minimal

[lethal dragon]

Yeah it's just statistical difference

[turbid badge]

hehe lol

[gentle finch]

i sparked Spalter

skin too hot

[turbid badge]

I feel like i wanna spark W

[lethal dragon]

I really fucking want to do that

[lethal dragon]

Hell yeah

[turbid badge]

Yes spark on cn

[gentle finch]

😔

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882236058383843359.png?quality=lossless

[gentle finch]

do u have enough

[lethal dragon]

Oh yeah I got Skalter from daily pull kekw

[turbid badge]

tbh i dont think i wanna spark on mumu banner

[lethal dragon]

No way it's impossible

[proud drift]

Wait

[gentle finch]

rip

[proud drift]

Pity is still 300

[gentle finch]

i just barely had enough for spark

[turbid badge]

Maybe spark on 5th anni

[lethal dragon]

No shit

[proud drift]

I thought they lowered it with banner rework

[turbid badge]

Thats standard

dummy

[lethal dragon]

That's for solo rateup only

[turbid badge]

oh

Damn

no more 258 pulls for mlynar

[lethal dragon]

Doesn't even apply to other standard banners

[gentle finch]

i got offrate mlynar too

[turbid badge]

aw too bad qiu bai is before the rework

[lethal dragon]

Yeah and reed too
Atleast reed will have a rerun

No qb rerun

[turbid badge]

Qiu bai mini evnt

[gentle finch]

sadge

if i get skalter before 300 i think instead of spark Nearl I'll just save

on EN

[sonic willow]

What if no texas before 300 instead

[gentle finch]

impossible

shhh

[sonic willow]

Oh sweet summer child

[hollow forum]

[turbid badge]

[willow tinsel]

wait wil sutr destroy the pillar if shes in front of it with s3?

[proud drift]

If she’s next to it, yes

And facing it

[willow tinsel]

wait okay, then how do i not get mandragora to not use her beam. cuz i saw kyostin do it but she doesnt use it

[somber falcon]

Dropping a pillar on her while she's doing it cancels it iirc

[proud drift]

No

Well yes

And no

She doesn’t use any abilities if u drop pillar on her

The aura around her in p1 and p2 is a 60% damage reduction and indication that she can use skills

[cyan gorge]

Can you stun/sleep Mandra?

[proud drift]

When u drop the pillar she loses that aura

And loses her abilities

Until the aura comes back

You can also tank the beam

Ideally you can stall P1 with a medic defender + 2 medics one being nightingale preferably

And then you throw 4 rocks at cat in p2

And somehow do 4000 damage

[frigid kite]

Near Light got any stream last year? For global

[proud drift]

Or was it 2000?

Somewhere in that range

Chonk arts resistance can also be a tank instead of medic defender

Like idk matterhorn

Basically soak her laser while healing with 2-3 medics until she dies

Stage isn’t on a timer

Unless p2

[proud drift]

Or do you want her to intentionally use the beam

Cause I’m reading and a bit confused

When she spawns she has a starting cooldown for it

[cyan gorge]

Just tank with guardmiya

[frigid kite]

Kill 1st phase with guardmiya + healer

[willow tinsel]

wait oh alr ty

i think that was it

[frigid kite]

Prepare all pillars

[proud drift]

Ya pillar removes her aura

[frigid kite]

And she dies from the pillars

[proud drift]

Which in turn basically silences her

[sonic willow]

Death = best cc

[proud drift]

Man

I hate the shape of some of these objects attached to the cars

[signal granite]

I miss the operator "car"

[tidal sedge]

The car thingy on chapter 11?

[signal granite]

Dont need to mention fully right?

[tidal sedge]

No

[tidal sedge]

Well like art mortal and spike.

[quartz pendant]

I'm in agony

[scarlet fulcrum]

Medic wasted in that sss map with ur team

[quartz pendant]

English?

[scarlet fulcrum]

more like medic wasted for stacked team

I cant speak en mb L

[quartz pendant]

[glass monolith]

Dude it is SSS which has invisible enemy with 800 arts damage and fucking paratrooper spam and invisible archers on boss the fuck you smoking?

[scarlet fulcrum]

?

Just find better carry, not better medic

[lethal dragon]

Skalter is all what I ever needed in SSS

but then again my squad is full rarity abuse

[scarlet fulcrum]

Usually medic stacks only abused in single or 2 carries

[formal moss]

Lemme just cry

[quartz pendant]

Idk what you just said but uhhh, I ate your parents I guess ?

[lethal dragon]

Bruh moment

[ancient hearth]

medic only players are not normal people

their goals are beyond our understanding

[lethal dragon]

Medic only clears h8-4

[scarlet fulcrum]

Harmacist

[ancient hearth]

also, where is old well?

[scarlet fulcrum]

SN?

[quartz pendant]

I'm gonna call it there for tonight

I'm gonna go do that exploration and pray I get past area 3

[scarlet fulcrum]

U are just blogging at this point, its fine tho

[quartz pendant]

The fuck is blogging

[storm current]

blogging as in

showing your progression to other people

since theres no question that we can help you

its blogging instead of asking

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can read pinned rules

[formal moss]

I think 11-16 is possible without her so I'm not using her

[edgy stag]

ok can someone teach me the mechs of the current cc stage

i am lost in the sauce

[proud drift]

don't block smarites

and don't play middle

smarties go middle and kaboom

preferably don't take movement speed risk

otherwise they will not all kaboom

due to some having 1 second delay between each other

y'know I thought artillery with originium would be funny

but

[edgy stag]

how do you block the blindeys without being the middle?

[proud drift]

I was wrong

[proud drift]

you can helidrop

[edgy stag]

..but theyre like half of the enemies on the stage lol

[glass monolith]

Those dots above shit, is like In Yan energy bullshit i don't care.
Blue fires with different colors touch - Explosion wipe out in radius
Enemy same color as you - both have damage reduction
Enemy opposite color of you - both deal increased damage
Envy shit has skill which forces tile color change
You start with fireworks to force tile or enemy color change
Shit coming from top right (and one from bottom left) - can't be blocked unless same color
Tile on left of map - Inverses color of shit passing it
Boss - Gain shields now and then, if you don't break it in 18 or so seconds it explodes. Explosion kills (Phase 1 can be tanked with very tanky operator, phase 2 is like 5000 arts damage lol good luck). Phase 2 attacks 2 targets. Risk 2 for boss unlocks skill which make closest (and farther in phase 2) explode in cross pattern while inversing color of all tiles in range

[proud drift]

there's not that many blindeys

there's only like 5 or 6?

you can leak one

iirc people leak first one usually

[glass monolith]

1 early, 2 in middle, 2 during boss

[proud drift]

or maybe one of the middles

also fuck artillery wtf

not having eyja really bites my ass

[formal moss]

I need Fonilic to get her skill by the time the waves come by Is This the best positioning For Warf in that case? I need Hibi alt to get atk buff for the 1st two Big Guys

Don't be concerned with the enemy there, i lost 50/50

[glass monolith]

Placement issue

[proud drift]

sir

where kaltsit

[tidal sedge]

It's clearly 5* medicknights

[proud drift]

is it

I see gavial

[ancient hearth]

Gaviel

[proud drift]

also only mulberry but no honeyberry

[tidal sedge]

5* or lower ig

[proud drift]

I feel like there's something more specific

[tidal sedge]

They were asking about this a few days ago iirc

I'm surprised they're still at it by this point

[formal moss]

I changed it to 6*less cuz Gavial might help

[tidal sedge]

I see. That answers that

[formal moss]

Why would i need more hp, No enemies attacked ranged units

in this stagd

[proud drift]

idfk I haven't done the stage yet

and your niche is weird

[edgy stag]

well i was too stubborn to not play in the middle but mlynar + gavialter too strong

[ancient hearth]

Issue is just medic knights not having the damage or stall without kal

[formal moss]

Well to Tell u the truth Is that i don't even have kal

[ancient hearth]

It’s just folnic and hib with any aspd and atk buffs from other meds

Borrow

[formal moss]

Reedic will help a lot once she releases

[glass monolith]

ReAl

[strong merlin]

what are the stats of the trees in chapter 11?

[glass monolith]

40k hp, 0 def, "why you arts on 40k target with 0 def" res. I think

Tree man spawns with from 8k hp 400 atk 200 def (Kill before stage kill count reaches 20% of all kills) to 40k hp 2000 atk 1000 def (Don't kill)

[drifting agate]

Which module to get for ebenholz, more charge or faster charge?

[glass monolith]

leaking tokens is allowed btw

[foggy grove]

just buy ethan

cheap and works as e0

[proud drift]

you don't NEED weedy

I did it with ethan+BP

okay but you have thorns

[foggy grove]

and ely

argument invalid

[lethal dragon]

Bp
Ifrit
Thorns gonna be hard

Thorns is multi gender flexible so he works everywhere

[scarlet ledge]

yuu

i pulled on blue banner 2 pulls
got spark get aak dupe

[polar crane]

what blue banner

[glass monolith]

Everyone need weedy

[scarlet ledge]

i have weedy m9

[tidal sedge]

He working parttime as Karin in BA.

[eager gate]

nah he's just a twink

[drowsy totem]

this character worth to invest in?

she looks cool

[somber falcon]

yes

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah, pretty strong
She is pretty much a fast-redeploy with DP generation

Meh
Don't blame yourself for feeling burnt out about gacha games

[pearl musk]

Can I clear current Anni with only proviso silence? I don't have Lapland and I want to auto clear

[gleaming lodge]

It's literally made to waste your time

[gleaming lodge]

Why couldn't you ?

Make sure to spawncamp the stairs as enemies dying here won't spawn seaweed

Other than that you should be fine without silence

[pearl musk]

Haven't tried without silence yet

[gleaming lodge]

You have 4 devices to clear the seaweed btw

[gleaming lodge]

Then try it :lappgun:

[glass monolith]

3 seaweed sellers come from top middle around 300 or 350

[pearl musk]

Bring who

[gleaming lodge]

Isn't it a bit later ?

[gleaming lodge]

Watch Banana's clear, they did a 3ops without silence

And I won't tell you who to pick

[pearl musk]

Oo

Ok

[glass monolith]

My solution using advanced spawn camping

[gleaming lodge]

With a squad like this you have enough experience to watch a random clear at x2 speed and understand the waves

[pearl musk]

Advanced spawn camping indeed

[gentle finch]

or does he

jk

[gleaming lodge]

I should add "I hope" somewhere I guess...

especially for an Oomfie supporter

[shell arch]

Hey guys

I have a question

Asking for a friend

(i AM the friend)

(i never asked this before)

[polar crane]

ok ask away amigo

[gentle finch]

😰

[glass monolith]

I did it like in guide but it didn't work, should i random list of actions?

[shell arch]

In what order does shining def buff apply to your operator? Skills > talent? I'm having a hard time to calc how many def does shining give to my operator

[polar crane]

I think shining just double what ever def value they have

[shell arch]

Yes but her talent gives flat def

Is her talent also multiplied by her skill or it's applied after her skill?

[polar crane]

I think it the first

I miss you amigo

[shell arch]

So ally def received by shining talent also is multiplied by her skill? Mmmkay

I miss you too the guy who changes his pfp and name a lot that i don't remember you (no hard feelings)

[glass monolith]

give this man Franka

[polar crane]

[shell arch]

Wait a minute

BA pfp

It's

Omg i miss you too

[scarlet ledge]

🤯

[polar crane]

me too

[proud drift]

Can’t you just do math thru in-game

Count armor before skill and after and see if it’s the skill value or more

[shell arch]

Dwsopey

If i had to explain this

#strategy slaves are like i9 11th gen processor

Meanwhile oldmigo is i3 1st gen processor

Amigo will get bamboozled and can't find out how did the def end up that way

[tidal sedge]

Just got shamare, she any good?

[glass monolith]

pogchamp support and base slave

if you have free tequila from DH rerun

[tidal sedge]

Should I raise her? Dont have tequila unfortunately

[glass monolith]

If you don't have tequila yet, then just pogchamp support

[lapis hornet]

shamare is like

[polar crane]

she's good

[lapis hornet]

most of the time half an unit worth

but sometimes 2-3 units worth

[tidal sedge]

So uh what I do

Raise or no?

[polar crane]

if you dont have anyone else to raise then do shamare

[tidal sedge]

Eh ok got nothing important

[polar crane]

m3 her s2 if you can too

[sonic willow]

if you have proviso, I'd e2 proviso first

[polar crane]

-50% atk and def is just too good

[tidal sedge]

No provi

Very bad for base, I need more money and wished I got provi from the guaranteed 5 star

[lapis hornet]

provi just eats your gold bars faster

[tidal sedge]

She also give you crack worths of money

[lapis hornet]

by eating gold bars faster

[proud drift]

seeing the 200 bars does make me wish I had proviso

monthly reset incident

[sonic willow]

I mean, gold bars are meant to be traded anyway

[tidal sedge]

I'm fine with losing exp for 350k to 400k lmd a week

[lapis hornet]

I can drone 200 bars to 0 in less than a month tho even without proviso

[tidal sedge]

you can

[proud drift]

I mean same

bigger mental impact when see number go big faster

[lapis hornet]

psychologically I like droning tp better than factory lol

esp with tequila

[sonic willow]

I'm droning proviso tp and I'm still overflowing on gold

[proud drift]

153 or what

162?

[lapis hornet]

2 gold facs or 3?

[scenic kestrel]

is it possible for me to do this stage without losing the run? (these are also the operators that i have, idk about the relics though)

[sonic willow]

252

yeah 3 factory

[lapis hornet]

ah yeah

[proud drift]

cantabile with s2 can probably handle drones somewhat

[scenic kestrel]

wait why are you guys talking about base in #strategy ?

[proud drift]

idk ur hp tho

[sonic willow]

should be doable kinda

[scenic kestrel]

i have 6 hp

[proud drift]

it was liek 10-15 messages that continued from someone talking about e2 proviso first

uhhh

it's kinda copium I think?

idk how strong scene bots are

against brawlers

[sonic willow]

how are you this insanely undermanned and undergeared on floor 4/5

[glass monolith]

Placement of operators in base give trust tap which give stats, statsticking is part of #strategy

[scenic kestrel]

I'm trying to get ending 3

[proud drift]

but only 4 equipment and 5 ops?

[lapis hornet]

man e2 thorns would manhandle that stage

unlucky

[sonic willow]

bro been dodging combat like the plague

[gentle finch]

huh

[lapis hornet]

I haven't played normal in forever so can't comment sorry

[gentle finch]

he's on floor 4???

[proud drift]

yea he has stand-in actor

I don't think it's doable tho

maybe canta s2 can cope the drones

[scenic kestrel]

yeah, i want to do that stage to get to the safe house and use the logistic thingy to upgrade him

[proud drift]

but idk how you handle brawlers

[latent anvil]

Have you only clicked encounter the entire run

[gentle finch]

scene buggy gets fucked

[scenic kestrel]

the power of summoners

[gentle finch]

@scenic kestrel ur supposed to intentionally take combat nodes, especially emergency ones

sometimes there's stuff ahead that you might want so you look ahead

[sonic willow]

anyway, have scene and click guarding blue box from the drones
have thorns/cantabile on bottom tile for bait+dps

use the summons for killing the boxers

[gentle finch]

good luck

[proud drift]

no way summons are gonna kill boxers

[sonic willow]

[lapis hornet]

actually

does s2 thorns handle them

[proud drift]

who's gonna heal him

he has no heal talent

oh

[lapis hornet]

ptilo

[proud drift]

ptilo

well

he's still gonna leak one each wave

unless buggy

thorns s2 might do well

[scenic kestrel]

oh well, there goes nothing

[scenic kestrel]

wait, i should mention something, i also have one of those portable battery thingies which give a operator 3 sp every 3 (or maybe 4) seconds, i would guess that click should be using it

[proud drift]

was 11-15 AE the hard stage

or 11-17

[foggy grove]

17 is preset

[proud drift]

guess I'll do 15 and continue after sleep

[latent anvil]

11-17 is what I always said

It's the stage I lost on the most

But yeah it's the preset team one

[gleaming lodge]

You lost on a preset team stage ?

[latent anvil]

I lost it like 4 or 5 times

11-20 easier fr

[gleaming lodge]

Bruh

[scenic kestrel]

i did it (but i lost way too much hp, and the next node is a encounter, and the one after that is a emergency combat node, I'm probably gonna lose )

[foggy grove]

rarity abuser when given preset low end squad

smh

[latent anvil]

I couldn't get the defender placements right

[gleaming lodge]

Don't worry mate
It takes a while to get used to the variety of IS#2 runs
Floor 4 is where it starts getting difficult

[gleaming lodge]

Couldn't be me

[gleaming lodge]

What are your operators btw ? Not the current run but your total list

[tidal sedge]

Can the percent damage reduction on some enemies and ops reduce true damage? Or does true damage just ignore this entirely

[brazen arrow]

Nah

True damage is just true damage

[tidal sedge]

It's just damage k thanks

absolutely not affecting it whatsoever apart from nerfing the stats directly right?

[brazen arrow]

Yes

[gleaming lodge]

What ?

[brazen arrow]

As in reducing the amount of true damage?

By nerfing?

How do i say this-

[gleaming lodge]

True damage (from Amiya S3 for example) is affected by the operator's ATK
It is also generally affected by bosses "Damage reduction" stats

[tidal sedge]

M

K

[brazen arrow]

This run was "fun"

[gleaming lodge]

Nice Touch

[brazen arrow]

Yeah im happy i got her randomly

[gleaming lodge]

Not sure but I think Shelter effect reduces true damage as well

[brazen arrow]

The last boss is easier than iron carrot mine

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah this map is pretty easy

[soft crystal]

Carrot boss isnt that hard now with the nerfs

[brazen arrow]

I didnt get the special medal because on floor 5 i didnt get ready properly

They nerfed it?

[scenic kestrel]

i died

[brazen arrow]

Nt

[tidal sedge]

Carrot boss?

[gleaming lodge]

The gamemode got easier yeah

[soft crystal]

Carrot mine boss

[tidal sedge]

Forsaken one?

[foggy grove]

damage reduction stats is like?

[brazen arrow]

No

S3 on gavalter

The module level 3 on gladiaa

[gleaming lodge]

That's bound to happen mate, it's the point of a roguelike mode
Also can you answer my previous questions ? (Unless you don't want help of course)

[foggy grove]

i know it bypass dmg reduction from mandra and the like

[gleaming lodge]

Like what NL Bloodknight has

[brazen arrow]

True damage is just pure damage

Nothing bothers it

[foggy grove]

it bypass bk too

[gleaming lodge]

Maybe I'm wrong (?)

[soft crystal]

NL bloodknight doesnt reduce Kaltsit s3

Im pretty sure of it

[gleaming lodge]

Oh
I didn't know, my bad

[foggy grove]

bk has dmg red but true doesn't care

[scenic kestrel]

its these

[brazen arrow]

Bruh

Those are some good ops

But

Please get your amiya to e2

[scenic kestrel]

no

[polar crane]

why e2 amiya

[gleaming lodge]

You have a lot of 6*

[tidal sedge]

What stage is knifemiya unlocked

[gleaming lodge]

That's nice but it might not be optimal in IS yeah

[gleaming lodge]

JT8-2 iirc

[brazen arrow]

Wait so

Youre telling me

You havent finished JT8-2?

[gleaming lodge]

It's needed to have access to the end of chapter 8

[brazen arrow]

Or have you

NO HE HASNT

HOW HAVE YOU GOT SO MUCH E2

[polar crane]

just dont play jt8-2

[scenic kestrel]

what is JT8-2

[polar crane]

ez

[brazen arrow]

[gleaming lodge]

Also why did you have so few ops in your IS run ?

[polar crane]

e2 progress doesn't mean story progress

[gleaming lodge]

You can skip the end of ch8
Ch9 and the following are independent from it

[brazen arrow]

[tidal sedge]

Ik I just want knifemiya, she's cool

[scenic kestrel]

I'm not sure, i guess you could say 6* ops are too expensive in IS

[brazen arrow]

Well

Theyre needed

[gleaming lodge]

Nah there is no way you have this little hope on floor 4

28 isn't that much

[latent anvil]

Go do combat

[soft crystal]

Yeah fight more

[latent anvil]

Fight and kill all enemies

[soft crystal]

Find emergency combat too

[tidal sedge]

4 stars and 3 stars hit different for early is right?

[brazen arrow]

Yes

[scenic kestrel]

getting the third ending is way more difficult than ending 2 and 1

[brazen arrow]

TRUE

Lmao

Never could get the third ending

[sonic willow]

what do you mean by that

[gleaming lodge]

They are an ok-ish investment for a young account

But never raise a 3* if you have the 6* version of it

(don't raise Fang over Saga for example)

[tidal sedge]

For integrated strats do I just keep my high star vgs then?

Cuz i never get them because hope issues

[somber falcon]

Wdym by "keep"?

[gleaming lodge]

Why do you never get 6* ???

[tidal sedge]

like just not raise low star vgs

I have flametail and texas

[gleaming lodge]

Getting Bagipipe is infinitely better than 3 Fangs

[scarlet fulcrum]

Do u have canta?

[tidal sedge]

issue, no bag

Not that either

[gleaming lodge]

You can push Fang to E1 1 sl7 for IS yeah

[tidal sedge]

I'm newish

[gleaming lodge]

Bag is just an example

[somber falcon]

Low rarity pioneers are pretty shit at combat tho

[tidal sedge]

By "newish I mean like 4 e2s rn

[gleaming lodge]

Your E1 1 Fang is never supposed to fight

[scarlet fulcrum]

E1 myrtle already overkill in IS, but yeah fang more than enough

[gleaming lodge]

She sits in a corner printing

[tidal sedge]

oh myrtle is overkill?

[gleaming lodge]

And Fang being a 3* that's a very low investment

[scarlet fulcrum]

Obviously

[tidal sedge]

Nvm then i got myrtle

[gleaming lodge]

Myrtle is overkill for anything that isn't max risk CC

[tidal sedge]

Thanks, now no need to use my lmd

[scarlet fulcrum]

Fang being free hope is big plus

[gleaming lodge]

Usually you don't even need vanguards that much, in general maps
Myrtle is very strong at printing DPs though

[somber falcon]

Do note bringing a printer also means your basically throwing away a team slot tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

In floor 5 u have enough normally

[glass monolith]

Whoever designed The Biting Cold is... Not very good man

[gleaming lodge]

Have you noticed the ranged tile in the bottom left ?

It helps a lot

[scarlet fulcrum]

That map still original atleast

[glass monolith]

i noticed that tile, no issue. Issue is when first dog of stage reaches you in 10 seconds. on stage with 0 starting DP

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah that's a bit rough

But I can catch all of them with defknights so you should be fine

[glass monolith]

screw your luck into 60 starting DP relics

[scarlet fulcrum]

Have np so far, tho because its old af map

[tidal sedge]

How did I never realize that Jetman takes extra damage from the ranged tile when flying, I'm stupid

[gleaming lodge]

Yes
Because he is flying

[vernal lion]

probably FrostNova did it

[tidal sedge]

I realized in my recent is run, I feel so stupid for constantly leaking him

[eager gate]

I think the gamemode is designed with "players should be 2300% ok with losing some life on random stages for random reasons" in mind

[cosmic dagger]

It gets better when you're familiar with the maps

Def, one of the most obvious examples of this is trading hp for relic on emergency nodes when your team sucks

HP is a resource in IS

[tidal sedge]

Are floors 1 3 easy emergency ops or is floor 3 too risky for me?

[eager gate]

no idea, depends on the stage and what you have

there are 3rd floor emergencies that can be done by a single op

[tidal sedge]

ok generslly

Ok generally floor 1 and 2 easy emergency ops?

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

Very easy

Trivial I would say

You should hunt them

[tidal sedge]

For floor 3, too risky or ops good enough by that point?

[wary wing]

?

depends on your ops

[tidal sedge]

eyja and sa e2 usually cores

[cosmic dagger]

If you actively branch to combat, your team should be just fine for f3 emergency

It's when you spam encounters that your hope starts to fall behind

[tidal sedge]

Oh aight thanks for advice been struggling with shitty items

[cosmic dagger]

The idea of IS is to just always fight, since if you don't fight now you will lose later

[wary wing]

me when ending hunting

[cosmic dagger]

Maybe for f5/6 it might be worth considering avoiding emergency

[wary wing]

kermit

how to avoid emergency in f6

[cosmic dagger]

RNG better

[wary wing]

:sexnote:

[tidal sedge]

Have 25 pot 6 meta ops worth of luck

Then you might not get emergency

[sonic willow]

You dodge f6 emergency by having revive relic

[soft crystal]

If you cant do emergencies then you cant do boss fights anyways

[eager gate]

Note the emergency "accident". Don't try it without sustain ops, this level will tear through near anything that can't heal or kill stuff before it can do a single attack

[gleaming lodge]

That's not true honestly

[sonic willow]

Emergency sarkaz/ursus probably harder than puppet

[soft crystal]

Emergency accident only scary in hm

[eager gate]

6 ufos very funny indeed

[tidal sedge]

What is emergency accident again? The arrow Kevin drop? I always start with gummy, don't ask why

[eager gate]

it's the level called accident

emergency replaces normal ursus bois with ranged elites

[tidal sedge]

K

[eager gate]

just realized wtf is kevin. Yes, that one

[glass monolith]

Emergency accident on survivalist floor is just quit run button

[vernal lion]

how to rage quit
step 1: survivalist
step 2: enraged
step 3: now meet every single "emergency" node in that floor

[lethal dragon]

Pog you avoided obsessed

[glass monolith]

Bonus points if your layout is this

[gleaming lodge]

Don't they just die by themselves?

Many floor 1 stage just beat themselves with survivalist

[glass monolith]

+40% enemy HP relic of hard mode says hi

And survivalist make emergency accident kevins actually hurt

[vernal lion]

thanks for adding from 40% to 90% HP, they all are officially your threat

[gleaming lodge]

Pretty sure Mudrock S2 still solos

[glass monolith]

your threat
You hit where it hurts

Mudmud was not shop back then

[eager gate]

I once had an obsessed for 4 floors in a row

with 5aspd/5ingots relic as a starter

[tepid ruin]

Yo, Ceobeo S2 M3 make her attack interval become 1/3s or 0,533s.
I have trouble figuring that from Gamepress.

[gleaming lodge]

It sounds a bit rude from me but there should be all the necessary info in bot-spam "/attack speed"

[tepid ruin]

thank you.

[glass monolith]

Imagine, you are steam knight, walk into stage to faceroll some Doctuh... And 45% Damage reduction Eunectes S1 just staying there

[vernal lion]

the most dangerous snake in the world...

[noble pewter]

Eunectes has pure dmg reduction?

[glass monolith]

I have Quercus and Stainless

If it exist, now it has physical damage reduction

Stainless S3 damage reduction was not even close on my list of why i would pull him. But well it is just too funny offer to pass

[vernal lion]

still weak to Emperor Blade

[glass monolith]

Dude if it has less def than caster than fuck it i can't stall it

I have to put it down out of misery

[turbid badge]

smh just give steam knight -atk debuffs

[gleaming lodge]

Or Nian S2M3 mod3

She tanks for a while

[glass monolith]

Might as well. Fabric of reality is fucked anyway

[crisp rampart]

I need help with H10-2

[gleaming lodge]

Ops ?
Problem ?

[crisp rampart]

Of operators I have Mlynar, Surtr, Mountain as laneholder and Kalsita

Nearl alter is not that useful because I need to block Manfred

[hidden axle]

Mlynar and surtr as what

[crisp rampart]

The problem is that the top lane always collapses, the boss is not the main problem

I forgot to mention that Kalsita is from a friend, she is the support unit

[gleaming lodge]

Kalista ???
Kal'tsit ?

Also Mlynar and Surtr are not laneholders

[glass monolith]

You need to burst down those leeches, they suck ass

and well, blood

[crisp rampart]

(Mountain is the laneholder)

[soft crystal]

Surtr is a laneholder if you try hard enough

🗿

[glass monolith]

It takes huge amount of will power to equip any skill but 3

[surreal star]

lanehold with s3

[latent anvil]

Surtr laneholder with s2 on top for annihilation 3 on my alt

Very good cycle

In fact the timing is perfect for every enemy on top lane

[gentle finch]

...

[glass monolith]

[lethal dragon]

Maaan

Time to spend a million to max gladiia

Wtf is that exu position

No shit she leaks drones

[turbid badge]

Maybe if u depoy pozy turret

Or that spalter was any other doll keeper( they can hit air)

[gentle finch]

if podenco was facing right of the typewriter

she was on the typewriter tile before but i undeployed her

rip bozo

[turbid badge]

Oh wait

theres already one at the box

lmao too late

[frigid kite]

Thought Extreme stages were today

[latent monolith]

They drop late

Like how event ex stages drop late

[frigid kite]

Ah

Ty

[glass monolith]

In 5.5 hours i will finally
Get stuck on h11-1 for fucking 6 hours and go sleep

[latent monolith]

I'm going to sleep now, h11 stages are tomorrow for me

But then in my case my whole day will be ruined

[lethal dragon]

Easy

Not sure about adverse

[glass monolith]

Sound of flanking clown carts

[lethal dragon]

Artillery my worst nightmare

[polar steppe]

i got to the end with only 5 getting past, any ways to deal with the leithanen dudes who take the towers. tequilla is usually two spots down from chen and i had horn where blemi is.

[vital arrow]

Whats the problem anyways

Shamans taking towers

[polar steppe]

yup

[vital arrow]

Or shamans exploding and killing your ops

If you can spawnkill them its fine

[polar steppe]

the shamans explode!!!???

[vital arrow]

Shamans are the coneheads

[lethal dragon]

Gavial moment lmao

[polar steppe]

the problem is they take the top tower and its messes with the defense

[vital arrow]

You can just slot in like 2 ops to standby on the tower

The top tower actually don't matter much

[polar steppe]

i didnt know that they stack, ok thanks

[glass monolith]

I almost never had top tower controlled

My setup for water annihilation was:
Chalter + Ptilo spawnkill bot (S3 cycles with boat spawns)
Ambriel + Fartooth spawnkill explosion shamans
Magallan - Choking to death underwater doesn't consider warcrime
Featuring Indigo - Chocking rock to death underwater doesn't consider warcrime

[polar steppe]

i beat it, thanks

[vital arrow]

That was fast

[scenic kestrel]

is there some way for me to beat r8-8 challenge mode while talulah, the fighter's health is higher than 50%?

[vital arrow]

Yeah sure there are

Timing should be pretty tight, just don't let her get hit too much by the enemies

[tidal sedge]

Yes

U can just borrow silver ash.

[scenic kestrel]

in order for me to do that, i first need to kill those artillery drones

[vital arrow]

SA can sweep 3 drones

In first deploy

[tidal sedge]

Wait the ufo level?

[vital arrow]

Yeah

[scenic kestrel]

what about młynar?

[tidal sedge]

The one has Multiple UFO

[tidal sedge]

Good option

[vital arrow]

He's missing one tile of range

But he can do 2

Shouldn't be a problem

[tidal sedge]

U can pair him with SA and Pozy perfect combo for this level.

[vital arrow]

Mlynar and GG should be enough

With some bodies

[tidal sedge]

Well because I don’t have both of those so I have to use Pozy SA and Borrow Mylnar

[vital arrow]

Pretty sure I also did GG carry once

[scenic kestrel]

the challenge mode makes it so that the operators have less damage, idk how much exactly but it does that, also, how does the drones work? (like how does this attacking work, who do they prioritize first?)

[vital arrow]

-50% atk on CM

You don't need to do it on CM for secret ending

[scenic kestrel]

yikes

[tidal sedge]

No problem

[vital arrow]

The ufos have normal targeting

[tidal sedge]

U know u have to do it in normal mode right

[vital arrow]

Last deployed op

[tidal sedge]

U should glad that this level is nothing to compare with M8-6

[scenic kestrel]

i know, but i didn't know it has a secret ending, and i already did the stage, and now i want to do both the challenge mode and the secret ending...

[vital arrow]

Well for CM you don't need to keep her HP up

And you just redo the stage for secret ending

So its not that hard

[tidal sedge]

It doesn’t matter the HP of Talulah as long as she come out alive u good to go

[lethal dragon]

Surtr really melts this boss kekw

[vital arrow]

You can't get the secret ending by doing it in CM

[scenic kestrel]

what if the operator wasn't in the drones range in the first place?

[glass monolith]

Ew, surtring

[vital arrow]

Then they don't get hit?

Wdym

[tidal sedge]

Pozy is honest example for this one

[glass monolith]

Latest deployed operator out of shit it can reach. Come on it is Aggro 101

[tidal sedge]

U can just use her typewriter to kill the drone

[vital arrow]

I mean they can't target something thats outside their range

The ufos are just normal enemies that deal splash damage

They just have fancy beeping noises

And actual attack range indicators

[tidal sedge]

Or something is not actually a operator

[scenic kestrel]

alright, so lets say that a drone is approaching 2 operators, one of them is closer to the drone and the other one is further away, what happens? is the drone gonna hit the first operator or hit the operator that is further away after it gets close enough to it?

[vital arrow]

They just hit whichever one is in range

[tidal sedge]

The one last deploy get hit

[vital arrow]

If both are in range then the last deployed one gets hit

[tidal sedge]

Not the furthest one.

[vital arrow]

This is like

Aggro 101

[scenic kestrel]

what even is aggro 101

[vital arrow]

You don't know how enemy aggro works?

Like enemy targeting?

[scenic kestrel]

not really

[vital arrow]

Enemies always target the last deployed operator in ther range

Unless they have special targeting

But you've been playing for a year?

[scenic kestrel]

i kinda do understand it but i forget about it

[vital arrow]

[scenic kestrel]

the only kind of aggro that i don't forget about is those enemies that shoot a rocket from the other side of the map to hit the last deployed operator

[vital arrow]

I mean its the same thing

The mortar guys just have almost global range

[tidal sedge]

Just understand simple use the last deploy op to bait the Drone.

[vital arrow]

So the whole stage is practically their whole attack range

[tidal sedge]

Yea

[vital arrow]

You now have an obvious indicator for the ufos' attack range

[tidal sedge]

I am glad I pulled Pozy for this level

[scenic kestrel]

yeah but there is absolutely no way for me to know what kind of range a enemy has, the game doesn't show you their range, the wiki doesn't show the range either

[vital arrow]

You just feel it

I mean if you deploy your tanks last

Its usually going to be fine

[tidal sedge]

Just use fast redeploy like Gravel or Jaye

[vital arrow]

You deploy your tanks last

[tidal sedge]

It will be easier

[vital arrow]

Because you want them to get hit

And not your dps with paper ass defense

[scenic kestrel]

like who, saria?

[vital arrow]

Like anyone who can eat punches

Defenders just happen to fit the bill usually

[tidal sedge]

Well fast redeploy still better.

Because of timing

[turbid badge]

ph ma gawd gavi

[scenic kestrel]

oh, alright i think i understand

[turbid badge]

i used her too kekw

[vital arrow]

I hope you do

Aggro management is pretty cruicial

I hope you know your mlynar's 2nd talent

[tidal sedge]

The one cause dmg for who attack Mylnar?

[vital arrow]

The other part

[scenic kestrel]

wait, i just thought of something funny, what if i use magallan? i mean her drones are invisible for 20 seconds, and if i activate magallans skill they could do nice amount of damage to the drones

[vital arrow]

Sure but can you manage her 3 drones

And the helidropping enemies

[gentle finch]

I like letting gavial get hit

she loves it too

[wary wing]

me when honse

[tidal sedge]

who did you guys use to kill the boss on this stage?

[turbid badge]

MMLYNAR

[tidal sedge]

[latent anvil]

spawncamp phase 1 if you can and then stage become easy

if not then drop pillar on her face every time you want to deal dmg

[tidal sedge]

is my game broken or is she untargetable

[latent anvil]

can you

drop the pillar on her face

so she falls down (shes flying rn)

[tidal sedge]

do i HAVE to

[latent anvil]

also, prep the pillars beforehand

[tidal sedge]

ah... this is gonna be an annoying one

[latent anvil]

bruh ur left side

you can use thorns and nothing else

use 3 op instead of 1

unless ur thorn is defective

[tidal sedge]

iberia no deztretza can solo it i c

alright 3rd time

cheers

[sonic willow]

She's flying

[full finch]

mandra flies in phase 2

if you bonk her with a rocc she falls down tho

[solid dew]

any advice so h10-1? i can get to the second phase of manfred (and usually kill him) fairly consistenly, but then one of the lanes gets overwhelmed. i did manage to "beat" it with only 2 leaks. but i cant seem to recreate it.

Here’s squad if u care lol

[cunning river]

Which of Gnosis' skills should I prioritize for M3?

[near folio]

What I did was to camp the spawns of the two lanes with mudrock and thorns with some support to kill the trucks that cause necrosis damage as soon as possible

[solid dew]

if u want i can send a picture of my usual setup, and then see how to progress from there?

cause tbh im not great at explaining

[near folio]

Im also not that experienced on this stage

[solid dew]

i mean you have no reason to ever even look at it again after you 3 star it, so thats fair

unless u wanna auto deploy for some reason

[glass monolith]

Auto deploy on H10-1 is next tier of BMing the boss

Bonus points if you didn't use anything to bypass boss dodge

[cunning river]

Soooooo about Gnosis?

[solid dew]

20min auto deploy take it or leave it

[solid dew]

i dont have him, but used him quite a lot for SN and found that s3 seemed to be the best (take this opinion with a grain of salt)

[turbid badge]

S3

S2 is also nice with my mastery but you probably just use S3 anyways

[cunning river]

I was asking specifically for this anni since the dodge mobs I assume are back

So this helps

Thanks!

[turbid badge]

I mean this anniversary you can just do lapland and she basically does everything

it's not that hard if because the silence stops everything

[solid dew]

this anni is stupid easy, just watch the guys who can spawn the funny mud

[turbid badge]

oh oh wait you don't belt lap never mind into

[cunning river]

I swore off using Lappland during SN out of spite lol

[solid dew]

...

fair enough i guess

[turbid badge]

just be careful of the Dodge guys and that's all I used bind for them I don't know how well noticed this cycle is for the but I don't think he can catch all of them

since they have zero blocked they can just slip through your operators

[cunning river]

God I hate SN mechanics so goddamn much

[solid dew]

true
bind/freeze/stun, silence and elemental medics are like the only solution to 99% of the content

[bitter glen]

i hate this flying rock mfers so much

'tombkeeper grotesque' yeah grotesquely annoying lmao gottem

[solid dew]

mylnar gaming otw to wipe them out:

[cunning river]

And only silence and freeze are in any way reliable

I tried using W for the boss

And she didn't work at all

Because stun lasts nothing

[eager gate]

Did you let it eat the stunres thing kek

[cunning river]

Yes

As I said

Stun was shit for dealing with the dodge

[bitter glen]

me running Mlynar-Mostima double schwing schwing and pretending like Mostima is doing any of the work

[eager gate]

It's ok
There's literally a sniper only clear where W is the reason it gets cleared at all

[cunning river]

Mind sharing it?

[eager gate]

Actually can't find a W-centric sn-ex-8 for some reason
But there's this absolute copium with just Ash
https://youtu.be/rt_WEp_FmsQ

[vital arrow]

There's this operator named

Fartooth

That doesn't care about dodge

[turbid badge]

liduke xlear?

[solid dew]

Usual setup for h10-1, sorry it took ages I was throwing
just imgine nightengale below spalter

[turbid badge]

clear

i remember that one being pretty reliant on W

[eager gate]

May be, I think Scwarz was there

[vital arrow]

Aosta is not by liduke though

[turbid badge]

yea there was alot of schwarz rng probably in that clear aswell lol

[eager gate]

I coulda confused it with sniper only since bombs cleared like whole level

[frigid kite]

Yes your game broke

My condolences

[solid dew]

it didnt work

ffs

i hate this stage. very cringe

any advice?

[turbid badge]

i thought sniper only had rosa too

Oh its the aosta one

[eager gate]

prob depends on the level of RNG copium in the run

[turbid badge]

nah im talking about a liduke clear since you really only have W

[frigid kite]

Use Surtr S3

[solid dew]

mfw i already do

[frigid kite]

Why do you lose

[solid dew]

sometimes its because manfred doesnt die from mylnar s3 + amiya s3 + surtr s3, but usually because the top and bot lanes get overun

[frigid kite]

Alright bait cannon with Mlynar S3 tank and then tank it with any Random defender + being healed (the defender), Mountain top, he kills everything except the casters, use Surtr to kill the casters and Thorns + Mudrock bot and you are done

Just stall Manfred

With 2-3 defenders + 2-3 healers

[solid dew]

i hve like no ops with 3k+ health other then mudrock and spalter, so its not sustainable

[frigid kite]

Mlynar is 3k+

Any defender should also have 3k+

[solid dew]

he isnt targeted when off skill

[frigid kite]

Except saria

Unless module

[solid dew]

ill rephrase

i have no e2 defenders other then mudrock

[frigid kite]

Then just tank the guy

Bring like 3 defenders and everytime 1 dies replace

Maybe you will need 4

Who knows

[noble pewter]

Fast redeploy gravel works too

[solid dew]

if i do that i cant do enough dps

[solid dew]

she wouldn't be targeted either cause 1 block

its h9-6 all over again fr

[frigid kite]

Mlynar 1, Mountain 2, Surtr 3, Thorns 4, Mudrock 5

Alright you have 7 spaces to stall

[noble pewter]

Isn't ur mylnar tanking the cannon n u just looking for someone to block manfred?

[frigid kite]

Btw you can also stall him with Skalter S2

Spalter

[solid dew]

ill need to rejust my strat, but im assuming that all of this is for phase two onwards ye?

so i can probably just continue doing the same thing for phase one (probably)

[frigid kite]

Both phases work

He just deals physical damage on 2nd phase

[solid dew]

isnt it both?

arts and phys

ye it is

[frigid kite]

Yes but unless your defender has 100 defense for some reason it shouldn't be a problem

[solid dew]

Who should I change out then, cause most here could probably be changed

[turbid badge]

huh

His first phase he does arts

[frigid kite]

Change blaze and Warfarin, let the healers be NG and Lumen

Just add 2 more defenders or any good tank

Like Melantha

[solid dew]

would nightengale be healing defender or helping someone on top/bottom lane

[solid dew]

flamebringer better fr

[frigid kite]

Both healing the stallers

[solid dew]

cause she doesnt have mod

[frigid kite]

Try to heal Mountain if you can idk

But with only helping him with the casters you should be ok

And Mudrock doesnt need healing

[turbid badge]

ah well yea its together but it shouldnt be that bad if u have Spalter tanking

[solid dew]

ill grab a roster photo, cause e1 lv 80 hoshiguma is like my next most leveled defender

[frigid kite]

Yo teta nice muscles

Wtf

[solid dew]

Here

[turbid badge]

Thats not me lmao

[frigid kite]

You can still him with Gladiia and Spalter btw

They are tanky as hell

[solid dew]

does the 28% damage reduction on their mod apply to true?

[turbid badge]

No

Did u read

[frigid kite]

Idk but you dont want them to tank the cannon anyways, just stall him while his life goes down

[turbid badge]

Physical and arts only

[solid dew]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frigid kite]

Another thing

Try borrowing Kalsit

[turbid badge]

yea

[frigid kite]

Give it a try and see how it goes

[turbid badge]

monsters pretty good

tanky and true damage so no need for cannon

[solid dew]

i have, she dies very quickly even in phase one

[frigid kite]

Yooo no way episode 11 extreme

Holy molly

[turbid badge]

etff

auo

1 minute?

[frigid kite]

Already

[turbid badge]

h11-1

wtf this kind of layoyt again

[frigid kite]

Also I think Pozy S3 Module should 1 cycle his phases

For Manfred

[lethal dragon]

Oh yeah today h stages

Isn't Manfred like a kid in terms of stats

[turbid badge]

I mean its H stages

So hes kinda buffed

[tidal sedge]

His raw stats aren't very impressive ye

His mechanics may or may not be troubling though

[solid dew]

Should I just stall with Spalter? Cause I don’t have the mats to e2 any other defenders rn, not that it would probably help

[solid dew]

Imma go with “may” in my case

[lethal dragon]

Aight after getting FUCKED in cn account I am gonna fuck mobs on En

[lethal dragon]

Did you try Nearl?

[eager gate]

Why not this
Just make sure to plop Gladiia later than Specter I'm an idiot

[tidal sedge]

Hmm.

What exactly is the part of H10-1 killing you?

You could do the Manfred cheese if it's just him

[solid dew]

Nearl doesn’t do enough and gets killed before her skill is even ready

[solid dew]

My skadi isn’t very built. So idk if I could do this

[frigid kite]

Isnt this like, one IS3 layout lol

[tidal sedge]

Manfred cheese being the third (I think?) Car bot lane is a kill gate requirement, so you can kill both of Manfred's phases without activating the post kill gate waves if you keep that car alive

[solid dew]

Not to mention, won’t manfred just waltz past mylnar?

[eager gate]

No. He attacks on the same spot

once you let him build aspd

[solid dew]

o

[solid dew]

I could try that but how little damage would I need to make it not die

I’ll check it’s defence I guess

600

Not too bad I can probably stall

[glass monolith]

I came here to say I don't regret a moment I spent telling how fucking bullshit H11-1 is

[tidal sedge]

Any non-offense brick should work ye

[solid dew]

i tried it once cause i accidentally did it instead of h10-1, and wow

it doesnt seem fun

[eager gate]

isn't 11-1 supposed to be pretty easy cuz the only lane that's remotely hard is middle

[solid dew]

would e1 l90 saria with s1 work? its not even 400 damage

i think

398 exactly kek

[tidal sedge]

Keep in mind her talent

Oh. E1

Yeah that's fine

[lethal dragon]

Literal chaos

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882236058383843359.png?quality=lossless

[solid dew]

From now I guess I just build up dps around Manfred ye?

Will the kill gate activate once Manfred dies or nah?

[lethal dragon]

OYE h11-2 has too many trees

[tidal sedge]

From my understanding, it shouldn't. But I only know the theoreticals of the strat, I never did H10-1 that way myself.

[solid dew]

probably because you are actually competent at this game KEK
hope this works

[turbid badge]

theres so much casters lol

[tidal sedge]

Well it's more I'm a healing enthusiast and my mind went towards a different kind of stall

[turbid badge]

Ng,”is this hiw despair feels”

[solid dew]

Pain

[tidal sedge]

Car died?

[solid dew]

No

Manfred got to phase 2

[tidal sedge]

Hmm.

I must be misremembering something

Actually hold on. Need to test something

[solid dew]

Don’t worry, I don’t have any intentions on winning yet lol

[gentle finch]

lol

[solid dew]

even if i did it wouldnt matter
<-- me

[gentle finch]

what

[solid dew]

i am dumb

better?

[gentle finch]

why are you telling me this so suddenly

[solid dew]

probably cause its true
idk, i do that far too often tbh

[gentle finch]

alright

[rose patrol]

I had to bring nian so hoshi doesn't get one shotted

Less than 4k hp she dies without module

This is with shining s2 and skalter

[solid dew]

guessing that h11-3?

[rose patrol]

11-2

[solid dew]

only 10 enemies tf

isnt that one all tree guys too?

[rose patrol]

But there a so many tree enemies and it doesn't count as enemy count

[gentle finch]

oh

the H stages came out

forgot