strategy

[latent anvil]

[frigid kite]

[latent halo]

Yooo

Does manti s2 atk interv perfectly match SK's

[limpid siren]

mostly

franka can mess it up by hitting him too hard too fast

[quartz pendant]

What an I expecting here

[hollow forum]

depends on whether you have lappland raised or not

[latent anvil]

lappland makes stage easy

[quartz pendant]

yes and no

[latent anvil]

yea that good enough

[hollow forum]

do you even have a wandering medic raised

[quartz pendant]

A what

[hollow forum]

chestnut, honeyberry, mulberry

[quartz pendant]

UHHHH

[hollow forum]

look for those 3

[proud drift]

Ehhhhhh

[quartz pendant]

No

[proud drift]

Is it?

[hollow forum]

then there's your problem

I guess you can look for a support borrow since you have enough lane holders but eh

[latent anvil]

yes

[proud drift]

I e2’d lapipi cause she wasn’t enough at e1 during SN

[latent anvil]

many people say e1 good enough

[proud drift]

[latent anvil]

e1 50 i mean

and thats not optimized, so can be lower than e1 50 for sure

[proud drift]

You should buy honeyberry

[latent anvil]

just mow the grass when you miss

[proud drift]

With red tickets

I’m surprised you haven’t after so much time

[hollow forum]

I feel like in this anni you don't need e2 that badly compared to actual SN

[quartz pendant]

I have 32 red tickets

[hollow forum]

...

[proud drift]

Farm them

[hollow forum]

tf did you buy

[proud drift]

[quartz pendant]

Wait I can farm them?

[latent anvil]

i mean tbh i never used wandering medic either for entire game

[quartz pendant]

[latent anvil]

yea AP-5 red cert stage

[proud drift]

How did you get so much e2 without farming them

[quartz pendant]

Sanity and workshop

[latent anvil]

monthly gives you enough ig

[proud drift]

Not even ch10 or 11 for necrosis?

[latent anvil]

uh no?

who cares just tank it

[quartz pendant]

I buy the tape and catalyst things

[proud drift]

Idk I really like being able to use skills

[latent anvil]

redeploy random stuff and win

bruh skills dont matter

[proud drift]

TAPE?

[quartz pendant]

Ye

[latent anvil]

my game is boring i can just win style

[quartz pendant]

[latent anvil]

is tape

oh

[hollow forum]

my man spent all of it on record restore thingy

[latent anvil]

info frag wtf

[quartz pendant]

[latent anvil]

but you can buy infinite info frag during events that is not stonks

[quartz pendant]

I thought they were important

[proud drift]

That is very unstonks

[quartz pendant]

[turbid badge]

real

[latent anvil]

important only if you care about lore

[proud drift]

I bought all my record restores from farming too hard during mlynar event

[hollow forum]

well, you can either cope with chestnut, or go farm and buy honey

[proud drift]

[quartz pendant]

Off to farm

[turbid badge]

im about to hear mumu

[latent anvil]

or e2 lumen

[proud drift]

My condolences

[latent anvil]

💀

[turbid badge]

yea HB

[quartz pendant]

For chestnut seems like a fucking Durin

I do not like durins

[turbid badge]

uh oh

[foggy grove]

because he is

[hollow forum]

fyi, on average you get about 21 red certs per run, iirc

[latent anvil]

if you e2 lumen you can let ur ops get stunned

[foggy grove]

[hollow forum]

and you need 600

for honey

[latent anvil]

yea it 30 sanity for 22 red cert

[proud drift]

Not raising chestnut is a good idea no matter what

[turbid badge]

u honestly dont really Require a elemental healer

[latent anvil]

tho i farm red cert all the time tbh, when bored

[proud drift]

I wish I could sell him

[turbid badge]

i didnt use one its not too bad

[proud drift]

Or burn him

[quartz pendant]

How to delete an operator

[proud drift]

Even if its for free

[turbid badge]

Dam nut

[quartz pendant]

I dont want durin FILTH in my base

[proud drift]

Sorry fgo terminology slipped in

[quartz pendant]

Give me the image of your icon

Please

[latent anvil]

wait a minute do you use myrtle

[quartz pendant]

🫳

[turbid badge]

Ofc not

[quartz pendant]

Not after I found out she was a Durin

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

haha that senetnece is funny

[latent anvil]

what kinda in game racism is this

[foggy grove]

cool

[proud drift]

Toddifons kind

[foggy grove]

screw myrtle

[quartz pendant]

I'll punt them across a continent

[foggy grove]

[proud drift]

I wish

[quartz pendant]

[proud drift]

Anyways, it’s doable without elemental healer

But

They help a lot

Well tbh

Elemental healer is only needed for what

Mushrooms

And that’s it

[quartz pendant]

[hollow forum]

no elemental healers and an e1 max lappy

[proud drift]

If your lapipi is good enough you won’t get shart on your floor until 375

Only mushrooms will be problematic

[latent anvil]

i dont even have an elemental healer leveled i think

[proud drift]

And I guess dodgers a little

Cuz they apply nervous on autos

[quartz pendant]

I try to 400 my annihilations

[proud drift]

I mean ye this anni is extremely easy and unpunishing

[quartz pendant]

But uhh

[proud drift]

It’s doable without ele healer or lumen

[inner garden]

i mean elem healers came out like 30 years after elem dmg so technically theyre not even necessaryv

[proud drift]

Leveled lappy=no grass until 375

And only issue is killing dodgers top lane

So someone like kaltsit

With s3

[latent anvil]

yes i dont use any at all, and beat every stage in game thats playable rn

elemental dmg is fake, just tank it

[inner garden]

also where are you supposed to place lapp in new anni
like....front facing left and profit? thats it?

[latent anvil]

yes

[hollow forum]

yeah

[proud drift]

Next to stair

[latent anvil]

on the stair tile face left

[proud drift]

Or 1 tile behind stair

With defender on stair

Preference

[inner garden]

i use them for comfort they make my life easier

[proud drift]

For overkill

Lappy can easily be the frontliner

Nothing does damage

Not even the old men

Only stun proc can do damage

[inner garden]

ill bring lappy and cutter how bout that

[proud drift]

Works ig

[hollow forum]

thorns and lappy can easily just carry the main lane by themselves

[latent anvil]

spawncamp top right or something, or dont, it shouldnt really matter

[inner garden]

ah wait thorns exists right

[proud drift]

My goldenglow was taking like 10 damage per hit from flyers

[latent anvil]

idk this anni feel easier than going into anni1 blind

[proud drift]

And it took like 30 flyers

To stun her

[latent anvil]

if you have thorns lapp you already won

[proud drift]

Only thing that hurts elementally is mushrooms, globals and dirty floor

[latent anvil]

lapp top of stair, thorns top of lapp

[proud drift]

Lappy=no dirt until 375

[hollow forum]

tbh the only surprise is those bottom flyers

if you don't have thorns or a ranged unit facing downwards or gg you'll have to reset pretty early unless somehow lappy solo kills them

[proud drift]

375 is when the top middle box spawns some of the things that shit on the floor on death

[latent anvil]

but then the grass can be mowed, it good

[proud drift]

And bottom boxes have no mushrooms until like 350 or so

And 350 spawns what

5 mushrooms 2 old men

And that’s it?

[hollow forum]

3 of them, to be precise, and you have 4 roombas

[proud drift]

I had my anni ss somewhere on 350 sec

[inner garden]

e2 40 s2m3 lappy can kill anything

[proud drift]

Oh on 370 picture fuck

But the bottom left two

Spawned on 350

Lol

Btw look at gladiia’s nervous

[hollow forum]

My e2 66 s2m3 couldn't

but that's probably because I had her behind the stairs. She probably would've killed if I put her forward

[proud drift]

She was hooking mushroom entire time

And didn’t get stunned

[inner garden]

oh wait gg s2 genius

[proud drift]

Ya idk she won’t die there

Well

Not with fia killing the global shit

Flyers do only like 10 damage per hit

And like 1% nervous impair per hit

[inner garden]

.....would meteorite work

[latent anvil]

yes

[proud drift]

Probably yes

[hollow forum]

I see why not

[proud drift]

She won’t kill hermit tho

Hermit too tank probably

[inner garden]

yay i didnt e2 her for nothing 20 years ago

[proud drift]

Even max fia barely killed it

[latent anvil]

this anni is stupid easy lets just keep trashing it

[latent anvil]

what

[proud drift]

Like

[latent anvil]

what is the herald

[proud drift]

In my setup

[inner garden]

oh the big weird lookin guys

[proud drift]

U could remove 5 units

And it’d still clear

[hollow forum]

those old guys with the walking stick

I think

[proud drift]

Well not 5

[inner garden]

yeah that

[proud drift]

But saria blemi gladiia 100% unnecessary

[inner garden]

you could probably like 4 op this

[proud drift]

There’s like 5op?

With hoshiguma?

[hollow forum]

there's an auto afk clear of blaze / thorns / lapp / mul / eyja s2

[proud drift]

Put hoshiguma at choke, lappy behind, win

[inner garden]

yeah thats what i expected

exactly that lineup

[proud drift]

Well

[inner garden]

oh wait hoshi gets use????!

[proud drift]

If you’re unlucky enough

[inner garden]

incredible

[proud drift]

Blaze will flop

Cause dodgers top lane

[latent anvil]

bruh

there is 4 op w ash gnosis skalt

[proud drift]

Hoshi S2 is useful in SN yeah

[hollow forum]

oh wait, I forgor flametail for dp

so that's 6 ops

[latent anvil]

and theyre all on their afk skills too 💀

[proud drift]

S1 ash S1 gnosis and skalt clears this anni???

[latent anvil]

well with vanguard to deploy

[proud drift]

Do you even need vanguard

Don’t you have enough dp to deploy all 3

[hollow forum]

if you somehow let the goo spread then hoshi can just tank those global shooty bois with s2

literally one of the very few cases where she actually shines

since SN

[latent anvil]

4 op, need W

[proud drift]

Oh W

Bruh

[latent anvil]

and also they had schw iin squad for passive

[proud drift]

6 op already

[latent anvil]

but only 4 op placed

er

[inner garden]

well guess its time to use hoshi first time since sn

[latent anvil]

4 op placed that stay down

[proud drift]

Tbh there’s not that many globals

So like

[latent anvil]

hoshi my beloved first m3

[proud drift]

She’ll shine for 2 seconds only

[hollow forum]

I still need to e2 and m3 her one of these days

god there's way too many units I need to raise

[near folio]

Wow 11-20 AE is way easier than 10-19 AE

[inner garden]

hoshi was my first 6* but she will forever remain e1 max

[near folio]

Roberta Moment

[inner garden]

roberta usage lets go

[near folio]

What is 2000 x 3 damage

[proud drift]

Ah yes I love bow ambiguous descriptions are

Seed - “explodes when near an operator”

deploy cantabile to kill it

seed kaboom

That wasn’t near

That was mf 2 tiles away

[near folio]

Its funny how the game doesnt even bother explaining boss mechanics in the small pop ups during the stages anymore

[foggy grove]

it's understandable

they have an essay

💀

[proud drift]

I mean hey, gl fitting someone like kreide into the description

Or talulah

I’ve yet to even play against artillery

And from what I hear and see

Artillery-filled stages sound harder than steam knight

[near folio]

Will the H stages in chapter 11 follow the old format or are we gonna fight steam knight 4 times again?

[proud drift]

There’s also apparently vore

[near folio]

11-15 AE is the real nightmare

[proud drift]

Does it have like

6 artilleries pre-spawned

[near folio]

No, it's mainly the stage layout, 5 trees and vore

[proud drift]

Dunno what either do, pray I soon find out

[near folio]

The stage layout barely gives you any room to spawnkill the artillery so if you fail to do that good luck eating their shots for 80% of the stage

[foggy grove]

trees meet schwing

[civic nest]

eh the artillery are the only problem in that stage

[foggy grove]

yeah the real threat is artillery

[hollow forum]

vore dudes have practically no defense to speak of, so yeah

[foggy grove]

[near folio]

I still struggle a bit with the vore dudes since Horn and Saria are my only 6 stars

[turbid badge]

Ohh no wonder verification says busy, there still on Labour day

i feel lapdum

[proud drift]

Do the farts from enemies stack btw

[civic nest]

yes prob

[proud drift]

Cause it seems to deal very negligible damage

[hollow forum]

iirc they do

[civic nest]

they’re peons so like

wat are u asking for

[hollow forum]

esp when there's a lot of enemies grouping up together, which happens pretty often

[proud drift]

Ah so

My fiammetta is gonna be my main unit this event

That makes me quite happy

[civic nest]

i cook fia in 11-20

pretty cool

[hollow forum]

if you haven't seen the tree dudes yet then there'll be a tutorial for them

I don't remember which stage it was though

[proud drift]

Ya I just did 11-5 lol

Weird ass flying twirly that gets deleted by chetto S1M3

[civic nest]

the hit hard tho

they

[proud drift]

Do they?

I guess the red ones maybe

Cause the small ones hit mountain and did nothing

But they also have no health

So they don’t seem threatening

Unless those trees spawn them

[hollow forum]

they also tend to bunch up together and constantly hit you

you'll probably see at 11-6

if the ops have no self sustain they will just get deleted

[ancient hearth]

only red ones hit somewhat hard, and even they don't do much to your standard defender, unless you're letting like 6 of them hit one after the other without healing

[latent anvil]

@scarlet ledge im back on cn i friend you

[proud drift]

Ah I see

[civic nest]

wat da hell

[proud drift]

But you see there’s a problem

[civic nest]

did u infiltrate china or smth

[latent anvil]

feetus

[proud drift]

There’s one important thing to note

Fia S3 covers 4 lanes

[latent anvil]

i have insider information

[proud drift]

And oneshots them all

[latent anvil]

i can get what i want easily

[civic nest]

[latent monolith]

Just use lee

[latent anvil]

if i want to go back on cn i get verification immediately

[proud drift]

Nah I just use fia

[hollow forum]

indeed

[proud drift]

Although AE mod makes them more hp

[latent monolith]

Lee + medic = ez duo

[civic nest]

pro cn spy

[proud drift]

They have like 1.5k hp from what I saw

[latent monolith]

Even on ae

[proud drift]

So with cc risk1 it’s like 2k still

Oneshottable even on AE

[hollow forum]

it'll be pretty satisfying to look at at the end of the map I'm sure

[proud drift]

Why

[hollow forum]

just, go do the stage and see it for yourself

I'd rather not spoil smth good

[proud drift]

I mean they’re pretty slow so speed risk1 is w/e

Fia should still be frequent enough

[latent monolith]

Is your blocker even a blocker if they can't stop 50 enemies

[proud drift]

Oh

It’s this

What the fuck

[hollow forum]

welp

[proud drift]

I mean that doesn’t look bad still

[hollow forum]

yeah, there's about 60-ish dudes that'll bum rush you at the end

[proud drift]

That just means

I place fia abit back

And have blaze charge up or sth

[latent monolith]

It took two full mlynar skills to kill them on top of lee attacking on skill, that's how many there are

[proud drift]

I’m expecting sides to have casters

[proud drift]

Imagine if you had true aoe

Like fia S2/3

Or pluma

[latent monolith]

Yeah that would be much better

[hollow forum]

Horn s3 also works pretty nicely

[latent monolith]

Lee is very nice I like him a lot

[proud drift]

God I don’t like that skin

[hollow forum]

I should go and check w pluma s2

[proud drift]

It’s so painful ingame

Every time new anni drops I get flooded with friend requests

[ancient hearth]

the solution is simple

just don't put lappland on support for the next....two months

[proud drift]

I have fia archetto ptilo

[ancient hearth]

ok, that's kinda odd

[proud drift]

Ptilo m3 the other two lv90 mod3 m9

I could do tomfoolery and put fia on s1m3

[ancient hearth]

the only one to try to get is fia, and she's not that good this annihilation

[proud drift]

But then I lose 20 credits per day

Ehh, she has a few good tiles

[ancient hearth]

just doesn't really have a large single spawn area to bombard, they're too spread out

nothing like 2 annihilations ago with the dividing furniture, or even last annihilation

[proud drift]

The bottom right one imo is a nutty spot

Since all enemies converge into stair chokepoint

[latent anvil]

yes thats where i put her

[proud drift]

I put her topleft for spawnkill tho and later realized I completely overkilled

[ancient hearth]

eh, it works, but I'm just killing them to fast

[proud drift]

You think I didn’t

[ancient hearth]

that's my ifirt lane through

[proud drift]

Fia GG skalter Blaze Thorns Lappland Blemishine

Think they stood a chance?

[ancient hearth]

no, this annihilation too easy

[proud drift]

Sadly

I expected to mald

But then I see GG getting hit by air dudes for 10 damage a hit

[near folio]

https://youtu.be/Vo3rbaBieUw

Roberta Carried

[gentle finch]

lmao I just cleared 11-20

was finishing up ch11

hardest part of stage is the firing mech dudes but nightingale made it easy

[near folio]

Imagine having NG 😔

I forgot when my last top op even was

[foggy grove]

step 1 get that to tag

[near folio]

Im glad we finally have a normal boss after getting Mandragora and Manfred back to back

[proud drift]

Eh

What’s wrong with cat and fred

[near folio]

Its mainly the cat

[pale orchid]

i havent got a top op this year...

[near folio]

But I feel mandra is the one true statcheck boss in the game

[proud drift]

She’s not that bad

[near folio]

Aside from blood knight in NL-EX-8 CM

[proud drift]

You stall p1 with heal def + 2 healers

And then pillar her ass

On p2

[near folio]

Shes a nightmare on H9-6

[proud drift]

Especially when 4 pillars just murder her

H9-6 is a different topic

A.k.a chalter silverash showcase

[near folio]

I usually dont try to judge boss difficulty by using the broken operators against them

[proud drift]

I mean

The boss is the easy part of 9-6

[near folio]

You are kinda right

The fireball casters and the duos rush at the end are the biggest problems

But Mandra makes the issue worse since she kills my whole team and puts them in timer

By the time I kill mandra I dont have enough resources to deal with the last rush

[proud drift]

Well

What I did in h9-6

Is stall mandra with blemishine kaltsit ptilopsis

Until p2

Then murdered her p2

And still struggled a bit against the duos

Basically stalling mandra’s p1 at a comfy spot

Is all it takes for her to be a non-issue

[near folio]

I can stall her p1 with Gummy and 2 healers

But her p2 is where she becomes a big problem

[proud drift]

Ya I stalled it before she was even close to first pillar

So I dropped pillar and taught her hell

[near folio]

But imagine players without pozy, mlynar, chalter, they are gonna suffer a lot on H9-6

[proud drift]

I had no chalter OR SA

So I had to choose one

Created budget SA with scene and surtr

Scene made invis dudes on bottom side very easy

[ancient hearth]

The actual difficulty with that map is the morbillion hoverboards and moth men that come at once before mandragora even spawns.

[blissful wren]

Is Guard Amaya worth all the investment?

[gentle finch]

how much investment is all the investment

[blissful wren]

i only have her E0 max lvl.

[gentle finch]

huh

guard amiya?

[frigid kite]

Guard amiya is worth 3 or 4 Ops o think

[blissful wren]

yah.

[gentle finch]

how is she e0

[proud drift]

e0?

[hollow forum]

well I mean, you're literally locked out of story content if you haven't raised amiya at all

[ancient hearth]

Guard Amiya can only be E2

[gentle finch]

you literally can't get her at e0

[sonic willow]

I smell cap

[ancient hearth]

What is this E0

[blissful wren]

i know,

[proud drift]

You have to E2 amiya no matter what

[blissful wren]

but to get Guard Amaya, i need to E2 regular amaya

[proud drift]

if you want to do talulah

[blissful wren]

is guard amaya worth all that?

[latent monolith]

Depends on how much you want JT8-2, 3, their CMs and H8 stages

[proud drift]

Guard Amiya is budget chen

I'd say not bad

also has a nice passive

that can help in close cases

[latent monolith]

No

[sonic willow]

She's an alright-good guard

[gentle finch]

she's a decent unit

[latent monolith]

Her S1 is far better in general

[split abyss]

Can someone give me a hint for 5-7? Idk how to deal with the swarms of slugs with the drones at the start

[proud drift]

I only used her for S2

[latent monolith]

But she's a good arts tank + arts guard in general

[gentle finch]

it's just you can't finish ch8 without

[frigid kite]

Use some Vanguards

[gentle finch]

E2 amiya

[blissful wren]

my only art guard built is Astesia, is Amaya better than her?

[latent monolith]

It's decent true damage with the normal attacks afterwards but I haven't really seen it useful outside of like andoain

[gentle finch]

is that stage with frost drone

[latent monolith]

It scales far worse than chen

[limpid siren]

i don't really buy this tbh

[ancient hearth]

Guard Amiya is worth 11 orundum prime in terms of the stages it unlocks

[proud drift]

y'know what it was useful for

[hollow forum]

it is

[proud drift]

IW daily CC

[gentle finch]

ok

[split abyss]

Sounds good

[proud drift]

it oneshots the blue dragon

[gentle finch]

I used plume

[split abyss]

Ans yeah it is water

[gentle finch]

to kill slugs

early on

[frigid kite]

Whats your team b0ss

[latent monolith]

Oh yeah that too

[hollow forum]

if you have lappy raised, she helps

[blissful wren]

I have Chen, not built either x.x but i want to do Schwarz first before chen

[gentle finch]

bro that's one of the only strats i remember from a while ago

that stage kinda traumatized me

[proud drift]

eh

is schwarz worth building nowadays

with existence of poze

[ancient hearth]

Yes

[latent monolith]

I had a lot of cheese units for IW daily so I didn't face much of a problem

[blissful wren]

if you dont have poze, and Schwars second Mod makes her great, when it comes out

[frigid kite]

She can still get up to the 4th tile

[proud drift]

I guess if no poze then unlucky

[frigid kite]

Which Pozy cant

[latent monolith]

Typewriter does

[proud drift]

typewriter reaches 1 more than schwarz

[split abyss]

So I'd drop down Vigna and Zima to deal with the slugs and then use the jammer for the frost drones?

[proud drift]

[frigid kite]

Yes but Typewriter auto dies

Like wth

[proud drift]

typewriter lasts the same as skill

[gentle finch]

hum

[ancient hearth]

I have both schwarz and pozy moduled. Schwarz faster cycling comes up.

[frigid kite]

Pozy fell off accept it

[proud drift]

so not like it matters wth

[gentle finch]

zima up front not a good idea

[proud drift]

[gentle finch]

I prefer her in the back

[proud drift]

can't he borrow pluma?

unless he wants to do no borrow

[gentle finch]

he could

[blissful wren]

should I build Chen or Schwarz first? (only have enough to E2 one of them)

[gentle finch]

angelina was pretty good for this stage

[ancient hearth]

25 sp on s3m3 schwarz is more suited for some spawn patterns than pozy 40 second typewriter respawn time

[gentle finch]

any decent AOE ranged attacks tbh

[split abyss]

I can just borrow Plume and come back if I need to farm the stage

Ty guys

[frigid kite]

Chalter?

[gentle finch]

he means pluma

la pluma

[split abyss]

Oh Pluma

[gentle finch]

what i said earlier about plume

[blissful wren]

no, regular chen

[gentle finch]

was before la pluma existed

[near folio]

Kinda fast redeploy with big number skill

[gentle finch]

anyways good luck bussin

[ancient hearth]

Better armor penetration at extreme values and faster cycling come up too

[split abyss]

Ty!

[frigid kite]

Well, if you dont have any good guard for some reason, Chen, on the other hand, same with sniper/heavyshooter, think about on what you need on your team rn or later @blissful wren

[split abyss]

I think if I can make it through the beginning Horn and Mlynar should be able to carry

[proud drift]

also think if waifu argument

[split abyss]

And Exusiai

[ancient hearth]

Typewriter respawn time is a limitation for pozy if the spawn waves happen too fast

[proud drift]

if you can't make a decision on what you need for team

think of which one is cuter

[frigid kite]

Just put 1 Vanguard

[near folio]

S2 Guardmiya can be used to nuke the duck and bear in IS2

But generally I carry S1 wherever I go as well

[frigid kite]

And then mlynar like, on a place where he can hit 2 drones or something

And you are done

[near folio]

Usually no

[blissful wren]

My only good guards are Silverash/Hellgur, for snipers i have Exu and Fia.

[near folio]

Even without typewriter there pozy with S3 active can skill hold the ground very well

[ancient hearth]

Usually no, but when it comes it, it really comes up.

[proud drift]

I mean

you don't use poze for waves in the first place

you use her for chonkers

[gentle finch]

pozys makes IS2 a little too easy

[proud drift]

no?

same with schwarz

schwarz would leak waves compared to poze

cause she autos slowly

[ancient hearth]

Also, at the end of the day, you can just use both.

[ancient hearth]

They’re both heavy shooters, aspd should be identical

[latent monolith]

Pozy can spawncamp elites with her typewriter too, which schwarz can't really do

[near folio]

I feel schwarz is better utilised as a support with good damage

You usually dont use schwarz alone

[proud drift]

poze shoots a lot faster than schwarz

[near folio]

Cause you bring another dps to abuse her def break

[frigid kite]

Ch'en won't make much different aside from doing more damage than Hellagur (and helping you kill bosses Faster?) kinda similar thing with Schwarz but she's more versátile and easy to use

[proud drift]

poze has lower dph but a lot more aspd

schwarz has high dph but low aspd

[ancient hearth]

are you talking on skill or off skill?

[proud drift]

on skill

wasn't the whole discussion of skill3 schwarz vs skill3 poze+typewriter

cuz I don't think there's any reason to compare off-skill units?

[ancient hearth]

yeah, on skill, sure, but I'm not sayin schwar is the better unit in general, I'm saying there are relavant instances where you want schwarz, usually in addition to pozy

[blissful wren]

I guess we will see what I get when I pull for Texas Alter banner

[near folio]

Anyways if already have pozy I would rather go for faster redeploy schwarz

[frigid kite]

Just save everything for Texalter

[near folio]

Even if I dont have pozy I would still want my schwarz to have faster redeploy

[latent monolith]

Pozy S3 decreases her atk interval to 1s, Schwarz S3 increases it to 2s

[frigid kite]

E2 90 M6 (M9)

[near folio]

Usually bosses with dodge mechanics have some way to overcome them as well

[blissful wren]

Ill have around 160 pulls saved. So hoping for texas and penance at least

[ancient hearth]

the situations where you bring schwarzs are usually the harder maps where pozy alone can't curb stomp the map

[near folio]

Which map is that?

Pozy alone curb stomps pretty much every map

[frigid kite]

None to be fair, except episode 11 launchers

[ancient hearth]

adverse 11-15 is one example where she helps

[frigid kite]

Loool

[sonic willow]

Don't you need unrealistic levels of def to have Schwarz out dps poz

[near folio]

I find it hard to utilise schwarz in adverse 11-15 tbh

[ancient hearth]

too many red launchers for pozy to solo

[faint dome]

Is there any other healer op I can replace whisperain in pair of thorns in annihilation 5?

[frigid kite]

Lumen

[faint dome]

S3 right?

[ancient hearth]

adverse 11-12 as well

[proud drift]

any healer with status resistance

[faint dome]

🥹

[proud drift]

whisperrain is just prefered due to her S2 being pretty good

[ancient hearth]

I had pozy focus the launchers, and schwarz focus the rams

[near folio]

I just tanked all the cannons in adverse 11-15

[faint dome]

which block do you place pozy?

[near folio]

3 healers

[foggy grove]

s1

[faint dome]

s1? like the similar skill as silence?

[foggy grove]

s3 ammo will gone fast

[faint dome]

Oh ok

thx

[near folio]

Just dont let ice spiders reach thorns

[ancient hearth]

annihilation 5 is the yeti 1 right?

[foggy grove]

ye

[near folio]

Yes

[ancient hearth]

solution is simple; keep a flagbearer on the field

and borrow dorothy

and just bomb the shit out of them from across the map

[near folio]

Thorns basically solos bottom lane on anni 5

I remember I just parked thorns there and he never died

[ancient hearth]

gotta still deal with top lane though

pretty much dorothy can ensure no spider gets within smelling distance of your laneholders

[faint dome]

I saw some vids he's supposed to be placed on the red aura area

[faint dome]

which skill I should use?

[latent monolith]

There are many possible positions that work

[faint dome]

the immobile skill?

[ancient hearth]

S3 better due to bigger aoe

helps chip at the jetpack axe men and katanas while killing the spiders

[faint dome]

Ohh alr I'll add her in squad

What about top lane?

Is mountain good to afk for top pane

[ancient hearth]

normal top lane, or the one in the back along the left side of the map?

he's good for either tbh

[faint dome]

I'm putting mudrock for the back part, so I guess I'll put him in too

Top*

[ancient hearth]

dorothy eats dp though, if you want to use her to kill the spiders you'll need to keep a flagbearer on the field for a while

[faint dome]

🟡 🍎

I only have one flagbearer haha but I think she will still works

Thanks I'll try this new squad y'all suggested

[ancient hearth]

depending on if you buff her with skalter and what level and mastery she is at, it takes 2 S3 mines to kill a normal spider, and 2-3 to kill a red one

if you want to save DP just try to hit multiples in the same blast

[near folio]

Just use lappland

[ancient hearth]

use both tbh; I used dorothy because she can help multiple lanes

and do some crowd clear in the process

[blissful wren]

dorothy is a great backup "sniper"

with slowing utility and dmg. shes great

[vast magnet]

Sound like may 2.0

[tidal sedge]

I just waste another 25 sanity again

[vast magnet]

Poor guy

Leaked one

[ancient hearth]

where lappland

[vast magnet]

What did u leak on?

[tidal sedge]

Fly enemy

[proud drift]

have you

considered

alt f4

to save sanity

[ancient hearth]

also, pause game and exit app to not consume sanity for annihilation

[tidal sedge]

Mobile

[proud drift]

just close app

[vast magnet]

Well actually you don’t nnes to

[ancient hearth]

....

you just close the app on mobile

[vast magnet]

Because you need a 24 sanity complete anyway to max reward

[proud drift]

no you don't

well

you do but

[vast magnet]

You do

[tidal sedge]

It just knew after I beat some dog

[proud drift]

he said "again"

[sonic willow]

Close app

[proud drift]

so it's not his first clear

[vast magnet]

Well I guess

[ancient hearth]

I've done it today 2 times to play other annihilations for fun, it works

pause the game

close the app

[vast magnet]

I skip the playing part and just close the game

[tidal sedge]

I didn't watch the top bar all the time man😭

[ancient hearth]

also

where lappland?

[proud drift]

it's also not surprising you leaked

you have only one sniper

and it's at the bottom of the map

[vast magnet]

Well lappy not needed anyway

QoL tho

[tidal sedge]

I'm trying to clean the floor but I'm too late

[ancient hearth]

lappy isn't needed but his only aa on the top is SA

chen doesn't count

[foggy grove]

the floor looks so pretty

[tidal sedge]

Shut yo😭

[foggy grove]

can't you galter shift them to stairs

[vast magnet]

Chen hit air?

[tidal sedge]

Yes

[foggy grove]

so less gooey

[ancient hearth]

only skill

[tidal sedge]

I guess I'm gonna use Jessica m3 to clear the fly enemy then

[vast magnet]

Well I did the brutal force strat and used 0 braincell to clear

So I don’t know what you are supposed to do here anyway

[fallen chasm]

I used afk lmao

[vast magnet]

I just let hoshi kill those snail thingy

[fallen chasm]

GG s2

Lappy

[vast magnet]

And let the floor go

[fallen chasm]

SA s1

ntr s1

Blemi s1

Mul and Lumen

Mountain

geegee

[tidal sedge]

Cougreat

[vast magnet]

I did double stack melee to prevent leaking and 2 sniper

[fallen chasm]

Rarity aboos + afk

[proud shore]

some tips with m8-8 cm? mephisto the singer is making my ops die of cringe

[foggy grove]

borrow uh bird healer

ptilo

[vast magnet]

Try killing it without deploying everything other than boss killer to have stuff to place after poison

[proud drift]

if you're bursting

[vast magnet]

Saria s3 work great too

[proud drift]

use ptilopsis

ptilopsis solocarries m8-8 bursting

[proud shore]

s2l7 good?

[proud drift]

was good for me

[vast magnet]

Enough

[ancient hearth]

his poison farts stack, either kill him slower, or kill him fast only when ptilopsis is on S2

[proud drift]

though now I can't test

cuz uh

I have m3 on s2

[proud shore]

saria + ptilo + surtr then

[proud drift]

mine was also skaltered when I did it

but ptilo +2-3 targets

easily lives poison

(assuming e2)

[proud shore]

e2 lvl 50 with lvl 3 module

[proud drift]

ya should be fine

[ancient hearth]

ptillopsis SL7 on S2 is enough, but skalter her if you want to be sure

[vast magnet]

I remember i just bursts it before enemy even come near and heli drop to take care of enemy when poison is still up

Surtr ntr go brrrr

[proud shore]

now about second phase

[proud drift]

uh

[vast magnet]

I burst again

[proud drift]

I helped a guy build a team before for this and uh

https://youtu.be/tgogSqmcdto?t=67

here's ptilo s2 power

[ancient hearth]

birdphisto stays in his egg so long that ptilopsis has S2 again

[vast magnet]

As soon as surtr is done in cd

[proud drift]

(pls don't mind the surtr, it was me not knowing poze is that bonker)

[vast magnet]

Wait u guys don’t burst the egg too?

[proud shore]

I don't have half the ops

[proud drift]

for healing u only need ptilo

skalter helps

but idk if needed

[ancient hearth]

not needed

I forgot to borrow skalter when I tried it after a practice plan

Ptilopsis still worked

[proud drift]

• as I said I was helping a guy and made this clear to show him how easy it is

[proud shore]

man how after playing almost 3 years I don't have silverash

anyways, I'll try practicing

[ancient hearth]

basically once the farts start stacking, activate ptilopsis S2

then while birdphisto is in his egg contemplating life, let it recharge

and start killing him again once S2 is back up

[proud shore]

surtr can 1 cycle all the poison with her s3 and saria's help?

[ancient hearth]

not sure, I killed him with schwarz

and warfarin

[proud shore]

[ancient hearth]

there may also have been a cursed doll from shamare, it's been a while

does doll reduce the damage of his farts?

[proud shore]

idk

but cm increases the already big damage

[proud drift]

it shouldn't

farts are set damage

and true damage

iirc it's like

50 in non-cm

70 in cm?

per fart?

[proud shore]

i heard that nightingale can reduce it so it is arts?

[foggy grove]

no

[proud drift]

no she can't reduce it

[foggy grove]

lol

[proud shore]

idk maybe was accidental mis-info

[proud drift]

it's true damage lol

[foggy grove]

it's true dmg

[proud shore]

Gavial can help with her s3 (to herself) but yeah, where it can be helpful

[vast magnet]

Yeah this was what I did before

Finish first phase before strong enemy even come and specter can handle pretty well

2nd life much harder with those enraged dagger and spear ppl

[pale orchid]

Damn aggressive kill

I waited a lot longer to kill him myself

[faint dome]

It worked! Thanks I was able to clear it with a lil sweat cuz I messed up forgetting to plant some Dorothy's trap and let some spiders invade. Glad I brought mylnar in the squad just in case. Thank you!

[storm current]

@proud drift mlynar gavialt ptilo can trio m8-8

btw

and CM too iirc

[proud drift]

wtf

[tidal sedge]

Was e2 lappy a good choice cuz I just e2d her

[tidal sedge]

Homeboy has prejudice against birds

[limpid siren]

sure, lappland is a solid unit

she's a bit desperate for skill mastery though

[tidal sedge]

Oh

Ok so can m1 work for a little while while I grind other mats?

[latent halo]

S2m3 reduce a ton of skill cost and extend duration

But the mats r pain

Sure

M1 m2 is fine , but m3 gives a lot

[tidal sedge]

Oh ok

[vast magnet]

Cat better <3

[limpid siren]

yeah lappland doesn't have any breakpoints

it's not urgent

but more is more

if that makes sense

[vast magnet]

Well if u only want lappy silence than you don’t need mastery for them

[limpid siren]

kinda like leaving your lunch half-eaten

the second target is impactful

having that come back around at a more reasonable pace is something you can feel

[tidal sedge]

so uhh can I show my inventory for more possible e2s?

I wanna be a bit more prepared

[vast magnet]

Well honestly I don’t need lappy if I can just kill the enemy faster than them needed to be silenced

[tidal sedge]

I will e2 amiya out of requirement

[tidal sedge]

That's within the realm of the channel last I remember, though usually #help is used for that more

[limpid siren]

this is kind of immaterial to the question at hand

it's also just a boring answer

but yeah sure, show your stuff

[vast magnet]

If u kill the blob on stair or before they come out, they don’t do anything

[latent monolith]

Lappland preventing nethersea brand drops and dodge on top of doing a decent amount of damage is very good use to have

[tidal sedge]

Rather arts centric, interesting

Wait it's art centric?

[latent monolith]

You can kill some on the stair but a lot of them don't go over the stairs to begin with

[tidal sedge]

Ifrit, Eyja, and Lapp are 3/4 of your e2s

[vast magnet]

Some I cleared with rumbo and the rest I just have hoshi there to stop the spread, and also kill the slug with her s2

[scarlet ledge]

hello

[latent monolith]

Not everyone has the luxury or options to just tank through it

[limpid siren]

i think cutter is a pretty sensible pick for the next promotion, she's already close, fairly cheap, and offers reasonable nuke dps
you may consider flametail after that, or you might wait and see what you get from texas the omertosa's banner, which should be coming fairly soon

hello leite

[scarlet ledge]

what ya doing?

[tidal sedge]

Ifrit and eyja are lifesavers, with ifrit hating res so hard thy just shred together

[vast magnet]

It isn’t that bad…. Just spawn kill those slug if u don’t have hoshi to hit back, then healer+ defender should be enough

[limpid siren]

your sniper lineup is quite weak, but it's not something you can really remedy right now
i don't think jessica is worth promoting to e2, so you'll just have to wait and see what comes your way for an upgrade

[tidal sedge]

Texter banner would be more arts funny enough, but Ifrit can be used to muscle past high res nuisances for your team

[vast magnet]

Spreading misinformation

[scarlet ledge]

[limpid siren]

penance would be an interesting pickup for you

[scarlet ledge]

e2 jess not worth

[limpid siren]

but cuora is a reliable brick too, simple and straightforward

[scarlet ledge]

just wait for better

when i play 4★ only

i only use her 3 times

[tidal sedge]

I have the ducj

[scarlet ledge]

for s2 dodge

[limpid siren]

may's not really a significant upgrade, so it's kind of just pissing into the ocean

[tidal sedge]

E2 sesa for the funny

[scarlet ledge]

ngl sesa fun

i use him with mint for blood knives

[tidal sedge]

You like Sesa?

Yes

but he's too expensive for me rn

Costs too much buckaroos

I should've used reply function, I meant that for Schwert.

[scarlet ledge]

not really
but i play bs on my alt acc

i raise any shit

ngl when he blocking shit for damage

s2 damage good

[civic nest]

will u roll for new snek lady leite

[tidal sedge]

is Angelina worth e2ing or just shove her at e1

[scarlet ledge]

i already have snek lady on cn

[scarlet ledge]

e1

[civic nest]

whale!!

[limpid siren]

just e1 is kinda missing the point for angelina

[civic nest]

i would do e2 if ur using her

[limpid siren]

she's a bit old hat at this point, but she's e2 or bust really

[scarlet ledge]

@civic nest https://youtu.be/XfSHGKQPHd8

[scarlet ledge]

i still dont have mumu on cn

2 hool 1 mountain

[civic nest]

wth

oh yea wats the consent on hool btw

[tidal sedge]

Does Ange s2 have application vs steam knight I wonder

[limpid siren]

he has like 30s total of wait time on our side of the field

[civic nest]

wtf is a sexhmm 💀

[limpid siren]

and there's a nice tile for her to sit

[tidal sedge]

Good savings for texalter?

[scarlet ledge]

ye

[limpid siren]

it's not nothing

[civic nest]

good enough

[scarlet ledge]

just hpe u odnt get cucked by offrate

[tidal sedge]

If there's a reason to e1 Ange that'd be the closest relevant use for doing so. But ch 11 is probably some ways away for them

[scarlet ledge]

and had to spark her

[tidal sedge]

So perhaps it's a moot point

[vast magnet]

I probably have enough

If I get ntr with pull I buy california

[latent monolith]

Do E2 angie for NL EX 8 CM weedy cheese

[vast magnet]

Of I don’t get ntr i buy ntr

300 pull

[latent monolith]

What if you get neither

[limpid siren]

i think it's a matter of like
angelina's dog days are long gone, but at the same time this mentality is rooted in the assumption that everyone has access to everything that pushed her out of the picture

[vast magnet]

With 300?

[civic nest]

u don’t need ange for weedy cheese on nl ex 8 tho

[vast magnet]

Im gonna quit if I don’t like california in 300

[civic nest]

or is this a different cheese

[latent monolith]

You do though

[limpid siren]

so the question is, if you don't have anything better, is angelina still worth it today

[scarlet ledge]

@civic nest

[limpid siren]

and i think the answer is somewhere between maybe and probably

[latent monolith]

The cheese is pushing bk into the hole

[limpid siren]

[scarlet ledge]

u need weedy s2m3 for blood knives cheese

[latent monolith]

It's like siege ig

[scarlet ledge]

for hole nl s 4

[latent halo]

Leiti is holotard ?

[scarlet ledge]

u need weedy ange splitbox

to hole

[latent halo]

[limpid siren]

i think siege has it much worse

but sure

[scarlet ledge]

[latent monolith]

Oh wait I got confused

[scarlet ledge]

bro i have suisei pfp at first

u should know

[latent monolith]

I meant push the boss in S4 into the hole

[civic nest]

ex-8 have a hole?im dumb fr

bruh

[scarlet ledge]

nl s 4

weedy ange splitbox pushing method

but ye

thats one time

ill grab ange on supp that time

cause my main dont have ange

for fucking 3 years

[civic nest]

oh yea leite a hololive fan?

[latent monolith]

I don't have weedy and my angie is E0

[scarlet ledge]

anyway

[latent monolith]

350k lmd not good enough for all the 6 stars I may want to level

[scarlet ledge]

ange mod is sad

[scarlet ledge]

ye lul

[civic nest]

wth broke

[latent monolith]

My bagpipe is still E0

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye im back to 4m

i e2 dadga

[latent monolith]

I got her just before DV

[scarlet ledge]

[civic nest]

is dagda good btw

[storm current]

kinda questionable

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1103112584909029377/image.png

[fresh copper]

Dagda is a Brawler that isn't a 6 star.......

[storm current]

[sonic willow]

How is she still e0

[fresh copper]

Nothing good comes from that

[storm current]

left is dagda

right is cutter

500 def

[fresh copper]

[storm current]

max crit dmg stack btw

[civic nest]

oh thought wish gonna give me his welfare biased

i was wrong