strategy

[tidal sedge]

Stainless seems potentially funny here

[glass monolith]

Funperator

[gentle finch]

hm

[frigid kite]

when snail banner

[gentle finch]

i can't handle my pull addiction so im gonna spark someone on CN

[gentle finch]

soon

are you gonna optimize and clear 400

[raw quail]

I will, any idea to make sure I clear it? I'm replacing warf and preferably a sniper

[scenic kestrel]

what operators (other than thorns and yoyo chameleon) are good for the lingering shangshu trails map?

[quartz pendant]

Excuse but what the fuck am I looking at

[raw quail]

Proviso and Podenco

[gentle finch]

ifrit, blue poison, what that guy said,

pluma

Mizuki

[sonic willow]

Do you actually want to clear it

[raw quail]

Sniperknights clear. New anni

[sonic willow]

Seems like you are doing ranged only

[gentle finch]

doesn't look like snipers only to me

lmao

[turbid badge]

holy crap magallan was so good here

[raw quail]

Healers snipes your hearts 💕

[scenic kestrel]

what makes proviso good in that map?

[turbid badge]

silence

[turbid badge]

astegenne 2 attack and range increase Very fun

[raw quail]

Shamare's for moral support

[sonic willow]

Don't think silence matters in IW anni

[turbid badge]

oh shangshu

[raw quail]

I might be tripping but I remember proviso being useful in the wood cloning map

[sonic willow]

Podenco is great for that map since her s2 is true aoe and multihit

[quartz pendant]

[turbid badge]

provisio wasnt even out during that release iirc

[raw quail]

Ik, CN players

[quartz pendant]

Shwarz or Rosa, who should I get to E2

[turbid badge]

ah ok

[raw quail]

I might be trippin

[turbid badge]

idk u can silence the uhh

dragons

but than again podenco does the same thing but better since true aoe skill

[raw quail]

Schwarz has more uses

[crimson cedar]

has anyone tried frozen mine annihilation with dorothy

to kill the spiders

[raw quail]

Rosa is pretty good with her niche tho

[crimson cedar]

platinum

best girl

[quartz pendant]

What about casters, except Eyja, she's almost done

Currently run Golden and Eyja on my main team

I have 1 wildcard slot left where I keep Gladiia so I'd like that spot to be a flexible spot

I'm thinking of going with Astgenne

[glass monolith]

i went astgenne because i was too lazy to build pudding

[raw quail]

Ategenne is decent

[turbid badge]

im now conflicting if i should get passenger

[sonic willow]

Astgenne is cool but I alr have godssenger

[turbid badge]

as ive built both astegenne and leizi but i might still get him from certs for skin

[glass monolith]

My skin supply runs dry, with upcoming NTR and Chalter skins

[sonic willow]

Dropping l2d like hotcakes 💀 20+ op per skin

[glass monolith]

also third Suzu skin

[turbid badge]

yea alot

[quartz pendant]

Astgenne it is

[gentle finch]

spalter skin

💧

[turbid badge]

Sora skin is. must but

buy for me

im coping with her beach skin currently

[scarlet fulcrum]

As long as its not limited collab u could buy them anytime

eventually

[turbid badge]

yea

i didnt even get the suzuran one lol

didnt really like it

also

wheres the login chap 11 event

rewards

[scarlet fulcrum]

Maybe with texalt event

Later

Looks, they even made lot mistake with login naming event during gavialt event

[glass monolith]

I wonder how much copium i will need to do Lapp go Spain event without saving a single civilian

[scarlet fulcrum]

Im still not looking to any HW yet, all i care is farm node for now

[glass monolith]

Btw, did CN get any other Italian VA but IS cast (Lapp, Texases, Penance, Vergil)

[scarlet fulcrum]

If another spain event happen most likely

So far only them

[frigid kite]

spain event? which one?

[turbid badge]

soracusa

its italian

[glass monolith]

Which one is shaped as boot

[turbid badge]

spain is iberia

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh wait yeah italy 💀

[frigid kite]

actually i think there was some spanish phrases on Bolivar/Dossoles

[scarlet fulcrum]

Low sanity moment

[turbid badge]

Once we get Bolivar event

im hyped for a spanish dobbermann

[frigid kite]

welp, i'm still coping spanish dub

[turbid badge]

feels bad bolivar is slowly getting eaten by america

[scarlet fulcrum]

I still prefer EN with accent, like istina or irene

Its just beautiful

[frigid kite]

Irene is pretty well made

wonder how Thorns will be

[turbid badge]

have u heard Indra brisish haha i havent bothered to change it either

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh yeah damn it, she is also chad

[frigid kite]

Dagda 💀

[scarlet fulcrum]

typical tsun

[nimble stream]

Any comps someone can recommend me to run?

[turbid badge]

Lappland

[frigid kite]

would be nice knowing your team

[turbid badge]

forms of cc

[storm current]

Double lane holder mid

Blocker top

If you have proviso/podenco its easy

E1 work

[quartz pendant]

Alright, what am I missing when it comes to 10-16

[storm current]

what map again

[quartz pendant]

...10-16

[storm current]

i meant

what does the stage look like

[quartz pendant]

Oh

Here

[austere lodge]

omg lappy just trivialises most SN things, even anni 😂 After going through SN without her and E2'ing her in between then and now, can I just say "friggin worth it" 😂

[storm current]

you will want a caster snipe for top

[quartz pendant]

These the baddies

[storm current]

the car is your biggest issue

you will want to nuke them somehow

[quartz pendant]

Borrow thorn?

[austere lodge]

if you can tell us which are your key ops, that'd be a great starting point 🙂

[storm current]

nah

thorns is pretty bad in chapter 10 in general

do you have mudrock

[quartz pendant]

Yes

With S3, I forgot to switch it to S2

[storm current]

10 res so its prob easier to use art

you want to snipe cars around these part

[quartz pendant]

Alright, I'll see who I can borrow to nuke things

[austere lodge]

for the top left, even a steward will do IIRC 🤔 For the right, it depends how quickly you can nuke them as they come out; Ifrit really helps there

or mon3tr 😋

[quartz pendant]

Where would I place mudrock and Saria here..

[austere lodge]

I put one or the other at the chokepoint below and to the left of the orange outlet

[quartz pendant]

Checkpoint?

[nimble stream]

didnt need lappland it seems

[storm current]

oh yes

the entire map full of slime tile

[nimble stream]

yeah its air defense gaming

[quartz pendant]

Yeah those cars keep screwing me, when I place Saria or Mudrock to where I think checkpoint is at, my casters get caught by the blast

Yeah no ain't working

Is this the hardest map for 10

[storm current]

n

[gentle finch]

nope

[storm current]

h10-1 and h10-3

[gentle finch]

10-2 is a breeze

wait what stage is he doin

that ain't looking like a hell stage

10-16?

[storm current]

Ah i messed up a bit

[quartz pendant]

I'm pretty limited on ops for this like I don't own that furry, or thorns

So I can't low op it like you can

[storm current]

uh

you can do the traditional medic + lane holder

@quartz pendant ok but who do you have

i usually assume people dont have flagpipe so it can make a huge change in difficulty

[frigid kite]

[austere lodge]

myrtle+cantabile is not too far off nowadays tbf 🙂 extremely big early burst of DP

[storm current]

also btw

you dont need thorns

its horn to snipe

[frigid kite]

0 Vanguards

[austere lodge]

horn to snipe bombard the sh*t out of stuff 😋

[quartz pendant]

Getting my krooster

I'm don't thing I have decent lane holders besides Saria, Kal, Mudrock

[frigid kite]

Krooster is pretty cool and all but a pic would be better

[storm current]

if you have kal and mud

its much easier here

but do you have mlynar

cuz if you do, you dont need to borrow

[quartz pendant]

I'm not screenshooting all my ops

Also no

[frigid kite]

Only the team you are using...

[storm current]

just screenshot your strongest one

[quartz pendant]

I don't, I managed to beat it

Just barely

[frigid kite]

💀

[quartz pendant]

[storm current]

well

[quartz pendant]

And yes for you depressing animals, 3*

[frigid kite]

Have fun with 17

[storm current]

have fun with h10-1 lol

10-17 is relatively easy

even for adverse

[frigid kite]

You havent seen this guy

[austere lodge]

mudmud absolute mvp for that chapter

[quartz pendant]

Uhh

What skill

S2 or 3

[storm current]

you can stick to s2

[rough anvil]

H10-1 that was true malding

[austere lodge]

s2

[storm current]

s3 technically work

but kinda ass

[austere lodge]

s3 can be funny with artillery shots 😋 surviving true damage hits with scraps of hp is the true "fuck you" to game mechanics 😁

[frigid kite]

Nah bro malding artillery while not on CC not worth

Unless you like it

[quartz pendant]

Idk what you guys are saying but I'll just agree

[gleaming lodge]

Dodging long attack with Mud S3 is the best use for her fake invulnerability

[quartz pendant]

uhh alright, I'll try S3 first and then if that doesn't work I'll go S2 and hope for the best

[austere lodge]

s2 is generally better for constant healing 🙂 s3 is mainly used to tank bosses and other big bads

[forest quiver]

hi is there any afk clear of anni 16 without lappland?

[frigid kite]

Yeah just add 3 healers to your comp so your blockers wont die

[quartz pendant]

gotcha

I'll ass Nightingale and replace... uhhh

[austere lodge]

unless you have very powerful ranged units, I doubt it 🤔 spewers will decimate your blockers

[quartz pendant]

Astgenne

[frigid kite]

Hoshi kills those

Like very easily with S2

But

You can Spawnkill the spewers

Even with kroos

[austere lodge]

agreed, but does she kill them before the other 2 blockers die? honest question; I finished mine with lappy so clean tiles 😅

[frigid kite]

The others defenders shouldn't die

You are giving the spewers too much Credit 💀

[austere lodge]

probably 🤔 still PTSD'ing from the SN-EX stages where 6 of them at a time wrecked everything without Hoshi 😅

[frigid kite]

Yeah

[strange sonnet]

mlynar works

[rough anvil]

I used hoshi (mod), nearl and blemi (mod), healed by honey berry and lumen and they survived just fine

Actually nearl was being healed only by honey, wasn't in lumen range and she was fine

[austere lodge]

yeah, my original plan was to keep brand localised to hoshi, mlynar, and blaze and enjoy the spewers killing themselves, but Lappy is apparently a cleanliness freak 😂

[rough anvil]

I put my lappy somewhere random because I figured I'd fail and then I one shot it so my lappy just sat in top lane behind nearl being pretty much useless

[austere lodge]

honestly, yeah. Fastest I've been able to full-clear an annihilation ever; I think I only took two tries 🤔 definitely something to be said about key operators (mountain, lappy), but this has felt markedly easier than the past few anni maps

[rough anvil]

Same, definitely one of the easier ones, especially if you know how the enemies work because you were inflicted with SN PTSD

[austere lodge]

i didn't have lappy back then 😱 fuck those dodging buggers

[quartz pendant]

Ah now I see why you guys said have fun

Another boss

[gentle finch]

how could you do that

[storm current]

h10-1 to 3 are all manfred

but h10-2 is pretty easy

[rough anvil]

hopefully h11 stages arent nearly as maldy

[storm current]

it is pretty maldy

lol

[rough anvil]

i had hope because chapter 11 overall has felt a little less maldy than chapter 10

[frigid kite]

I wont have mercy on hell 11

None caster will escape my surtr

[gentle finch]

which ch11 stage just straight up bans specialists in adverse?

[frigid kite]

Hold on

[rough anvil]

11-18

[frigid kite]

Ah I thought you were talking about hell stages

Wondered if there was any "guard" block 💀

[gentle finch]

ah

sadge

[rough anvil]

11-18 also bans medics

[gentle finch]

i don't use medics in abyssals only

(big shocker)

that sucks though

[frigid kite]

They banned specialist only because Gladiia = medic

[glass monolith]

As long as they don't ban Sniper + Caster i have no complains
Wait a minute

[quartz pendant]

Okay yeah I'm starting to mald

[storm current]

its fun

trust

[quartz pendant]

No it is not

[latent anvil]

Yea arknights is fun

That's why you play it right

[quartz pendant]

I play it for Kal'stit

And because I'm bored

[frigid kite]

[quartz pendant]

Being homeless limits what I can do

[frigid kite]

Good thing you dont like doing hell stages

[quartz pendant]

[gentle finch]

rip bozo

[quartz pendant]

But yeah I tried Surtr, Mylnar, throne to snipe Manfred

Idk what else to do

[storm current]

have you tried amiya/nearl

[frigid kite]

Charge Mlynar, use Monster to bait the cannon into him and kill his 2nd phase like that

[storm current]

like

[quartz pendant]

which Nearl

[storm current]

for his p1

[frigid kite]

Wait i mean, bait with Mlynar and kill 1st phase with monster

[storm current]

you can just perma stall and he die eventually

for 2nd phase

you prob want to prepare your true dmg burst

[quartz pendant]

I'ma need like a PHOTO of WHERE to place my ops cause just saying funny words don't help

[storm current]

whats the current issue

[quartz pendant]

Placements

And timings

[storm current]

i meant

top and mid and bot

[quartz pendant]

Uhhh all of it

[storm current]

but

[quartz pendant]

The cannons nuke my shit no matter what I bait with

[storm current]

who do you have

since you have mudrock

your best bet is placing mudrock bot to bait cannon

[quartz pendant]

I swapped saga out for Courier

[storm current]

uh

no berry?

you should kick heidi too

[frigid kite]

I think monster can solo him

[storm current]

easily

[quartz pendant]

Berry?

[storm current]

the isssue is just top and bot lane holding

mulberry/honeyberry

they are elemental healer

[frigid kite]

@quartz pendant was it normal or Adverse?

[quartz pendant]

Normal

[storm current]

oh wait

10-17?

i was thinking h10-1

lol

[quartz pendant]

Yeah with fucking manfred

[storm current]

uh

i think adverse would be easier

lol

[quartz pendant]

??

[storm current]

but do you have ifrit/fiametta

fyi

the adverse condition of this is changing the map placement

[quartz pendant]

Midget orphan no

Fiametta idk who they are

[storm current]

since most people only do adverse, so adverse is easier

anyway

can you post map again

[quartz pendant]

Getting clothes from car to go to the gym, left second phone in motel room one sec

[storm current]

lol

[latent anvil]

Yea most people say do adverse version

[storm current]

im not on EN

so cant screenshot

[latent anvil]

Fia

[quartz pendant]

Nope

I skipped on a lot of banners cause of the lack of PO and unemployment

[latent anvil]

Both maps

[gentle finch]

why play game if u want someone to play it for you

[latent anvil]

wtf water

[gentle finch]

asking for timings and everything
ok sorry

[storm current]

it would be easier to do adverse cuz mob and boss run on 2 different lanes

[latent anvil]

I am png collector enjoyer

[gentle finch]

respectable

[storm current]

collect the suzu NFT

[gentle finch]

i too collect pngs

[quartz pendant]

[gentle finch]

she too hot man

[storm current]

ah

[gentle finch]

oh

[storm current]

i forgot

[gentle finch]

bro didn't do adverse

[quartz pendant]

I'm not the best at strategy games so please excuse me for not following your fucking choices for stages

[latent anvil]

;-; many people play casually/have not as much time irl so let them chill

[gentle finch]

I don't mind

[storm current]

nah thats not it

adverse is just so much faster

[gentle finch]

sadge

[gentle finch]

ok

did you clear 10-16 alr

[quartz pendant]

I closed the app, I gotta go, I don't have all day to play Arknights like majority of folks do

[gentle finch]

ok

[rough anvil]

Well

[gentle finch]

i was just asking

[latent anvil]

well idk about majority but gl

[gentle finch]

because I saw them discussing 10-17

[rough anvil]

When you've cleared everything playing all day is just auto farming shit every few hours

[hollow forum]

probably 2*'d his way to it, I imagine

man's kinda been doing that

[gentle finch]

I think I may have jerked his chains a little bit

[hollow forum]

nah he's been like that for a bit

since a couple of days ago when he was malding at 9-19

[latent anvil]

It okay water

You're fine

[gentle finch]

Maybe he's been having a rough week or something

happens

I used to play game with guides only before tbh

[quartz pendant]

Fuck you

[storm current]

oh lol

you arent even using practice plan

[hollow forum]

then good on you

but when all you've been saying were just 'idgaf I'll just 2* and move on' for the past few days it does leave an impression y'know

[quartz pendant]

If I can 2* it I'll take it, if I can 3* whatever

[gentle finch]

Consider using practice plans

[quartz pendant]

But 10-17 it's not letting me 2*, god damn weird slime slug things

[gentle finch]

abuse your kaltsit for Manfred

he has dodge

as for the slug guys use mudrock or something with exu idk

i don't know the spawnings on normal mode

I only cleared ch10 in adverse

[hollow forum]

you have kal, you have mud

just like, borrow a surtr and add more dps for the other mobs

it doesn't take a whole lot of thinking to improvise it

[ancient hearth]

10-17 is mannfred right?

[gentle finch]

yes

[hollow forum]

sure is

[ancient hearth]

borrow a pozy with module

[gentle finch]

goldenglow might be useful too idk

pozy shreds everything yeah

[ancient hearth]

specifically with module

"dodge this"

[gentle finch]

fr

she can even melt patriot p1

ST queen

[quartz pendant]

The hell is a pozy

[gentle finch]

pozyemka

top right

pink woman

[ancient hearth]

there are two pink women in that picture

[gentle finch]

very top

[quartz pendant]

Oh pink cat that looks like the one vtuber

[gentle finch]

tippy top

[ancient hearth]

specifically the pink sniper

[gentle finch]

very top top

sniper

he has goldenglow

so he knows what she looks like

[gentle finch]

fun fact: she's a wolf

[hollow forum]

considering he just talked about gg right there ( y'know, pink korone ), idk man

[ancient hearth]

mannfred iirc has 50% dodge, fartooth and pozy have module upgrades that let them ignore physical dodge

it could be 80% though, I don't recall the exact number

the easy solution to 10-17 is either a fartooth on the upper mid pointing down to hit mannfred when he spawns, or pozy right next to where he spawns since her dodge ignore only applies to the tiles directly in the cardinal direction in front of her

so you would need to have her pointing left so mannfred walks into that zone when he leaves spawn

[gentle finch]

kal kills as well

he's doing normal mode so wouldn't be as pressure e

but pozy certainly is way easier

honestly just use both!

[ancient hearth]

their S3's should be able to 1 cycle his phase 1 and be up back in time to contribute to killing phase 2

Kal and NTRK knight definitely work, but Kal specificaly is iffy because 3 block on the summon is begging for the cannon if your other bait unit dies at a bad time

[alpine plover]

With Fartooth you would have easier time on adverse

Although no reason to pick her over Pozy

[ancient hearth]

killing him with snipers lets you keep 2 blockers on the front line and a 3 block bait somewhere else, without you dying to a single random slug touching your main laneholder at the wrong time

fartooth is definitely easy on adverse due to the his new pathing; but you'll need shamare as well, his first atk when coming into phase 2 might 1 shot her otherwise

if she kills him too fast in phase 1

[alpine plover]

You can bait that. Or retreat her before transition and redeploy later. Plenty of time

[gentle finch]

oh

he has a new pathing

😂

[gentle finch]

I agree with the cannon part

[alpine plover]

You can just perma stall him by cycling Kal + 2 fast redeploy

In which case cannon just helps really

[ancient hearth]

whatever works really

[gentle finch]

Trying to make it easier for this guy

giving him most options is best ig

[ancient hearth]

plenty of ways to solve 10-17, just fartooth and Pozy are the simplest in terms of execution

his squad is already capable of doing it, it's the execution that's the issue

[quartz pendant]

I don't have Fartooth so I'd just have to hope Pozy and Kal can survive cannon when Mont3r is deployed

[ancient hearth]

um

cannon is 3k true damage

[latent anvil]

cannon target highest block count, why are they getting shot

[alpine plover]

No they can't

[ancient hearth]

pozy isn't living through that kek

[proud drift]

Why kal would ever be in range of cannon

[quartz pendant]

Cause while I have to keep an eye on them, and when I Mont3r out, she's always in range

[ancient hearth]

she loves monster too much and wants a hug

[proud drift]

And poze shouldn’t be in danger either

[ancient hearth]

what

[proud drift]

H10-3 right?

[quartz pendant]

No

[hollow forum]

10-17

[proud drift]

Oh

[ancient hearth]

he's doing 10-17

[proud drift]

I sleep

[hollow forum]

normal

[proud drift]

Then it’s even easier

[quartz pendant]

I'll show you what I do when I'm out the gym, y'all don't see what I do

[gentle finch]

uh

do you even need kal for p1

[proud drift]

I thought all this cooking to oneshot fred was for h10-3

[gentle finch]

just block with anything and pozy him ? for phase one

idk his route

[alpine plover]

If you have both Kal and Pozy than just borrow mudrock and forget about cannon

[ancient hearth]

he walks up them right towards the blue box on normal

[gentle finch]

but that's the formula for literally anything that doesn't have a straight up Pozy tile

[ancient hearth]

he has mudrock and kal

[alpine plover]

Then borrow Ifrit to forget about top lane entirely

[ancient hearth]

his squad apparently: #strategy message

[quartz pendant]

I change operators if something ain't working

[ancient hearth]

mudrock and kal should be enough, the issue is probably cannon management and bursting down mannfred

[quartz pendant]

That's basically it, I end up losing all my ops cause I have them blocking and killing the mobs

[ancient hearth]

cannon always targets last deployed with most block unless there is taunt; the slug things increase your op's block by 1 up to a maximum of 6 slugs

you either bait it, or have mudrock eat the shots

[quartz pendant]

But like WHERE do I set them

If I have to put them in certain spots, that's what I'm having trouble with

[ancient hearth]

cannon blast range is outlines on the map for you

[quartz pendant]

Ive said many times, I don't know where exactly to put my blockers in order to keep the other ops out of range from dying

[ancient hearth]

I mean, I just put mudrock as last deployed 3 blockers on the upper left next to their spawn

[ancient hearth]

with a fiametta to help her out

[ancient hearth]

[gentle finch]

lmao

oh what

the map looks so different

wth

[frigid kite]

He is doing normal

[rough anvil]

It's normal

[gentle finch]

ik

that's why I said

it looks so different

was surprised the difference is that big

[quartz pendant]

How the hell did you manage that with just Mudrock and Kal?

[gentle finch]

mlynae too

[quartz pendant]

Where are Vanguards and shit

[gentle finch]

mlynar

[alpine plover]

Mudrock is immortal there

[gentle finch]

that is mlynar right

[latent anvil]

mlynar is a pretty good vanguard

[frigid kite]

Sometimes you don't even need Vanguards

[rough anvil]

Yeah it's mlynar

[gentle finch]

@frigid kite you should just record a video at this point

[alpine plover]

Mlynar is overkill apparently
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lze5Vb6okpk

[gentle finch]

ur mud is M3 right

woops

ur kal

well, both

[frigid kite]

Very nice

Not M3

S7 borrowed mud

[frigid kite]

@quartz pendant try this

[gentle finch]

apparently mud needs M3 according to guy in comments

maybe his brain is too small

[ancient hearth]

on s2?

[gentle finch]

but it's an auto skill so i doubt

yes S2

just add a 3rd op

all problems solved

[ancient hearth]

I highly doubt, mastery gains on it past M1 are so trivial

[gentle finch]

yeah lol

I didn't even M1 my mud

S3M3 only

[latent anvil]

s2m3 s3m0 here

auto is good

[quartz pendant]

S2M1

[ancient hearth]

honestly, if it isn't working, borrow a skalter

and have her seaborn top up mudrock from time to time

[gentle finch]

borrow skalter yeah

what that guy said

don't have her in blast radius

[quartz pendant]

What about the the lane above Mudrock, would enemies get past

[gentle finch]

use her seaborne to heal in tough situations

[ancient hearth]

just watch the video for enemy pathing

[gentle finch]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=lze5Vb6okpk

[ancient hearth]

short answer, it's monster's problem

[quartz pendant]

Alright, I'll get to it in like

[gentle finch]

• skaltee

[quartz pendant]

An hour

[gentle finch]

skalter

lmao

alright

I'm gonna go now, good luck man

[deep drum]

so who's the best operators for muelsyse clones?

[latent anvil]

rosa

[deep drum]

like I was thinking maybe mudrock and exu

[frigid kite]

Exu low attack

[deep drum]

fast atk speed tho

what bout arts damage?

[frigid kite]

Think about this

5 Rosas

[deep drum]

nah

5 toddfins

[turbid badge]

@lethal dragon wl

[deep drum]

[turbid badge]

what happens if u put a medic in the blob

[deep drum]

so who deals massive raw arts damage from just a basic atk?

[turbid badge]

If u put ebenholz in there right and have s3 muelseye, Its like 5 Indigos

[lethal dragon]

Deals arts dmg

[turbid badge]

oh

what about bards?

[lethal dragon]

No idea

[deep drum]

ight

[alpine plover]

Funny range. Still just attacks

[lethal dragon]

I don't have any bard to test

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882236058383843359.png?quality=lossless

[alpine plover]

It doesn't copy traits

[turbid badge]

what damage type

Arts or phys

[deep drum]

someone needs 2 make a muel tier list

[lethal dragon]

Question is about DMG type

[deep drum]

of clones

[turbid badge]

im probably sticking gavial alter in her bubble

[lethal dragon]

Stack skadi or nearl

[deep drum]

sounds good

maybe penance

wait nah

[turbid badge]

Ohh

[deep drum]

I dont think the clones get her sheild

[turbid badge]

rosmontis in bubble too

[latent anvil]

oh yuu you got moosy?

[lethal dragon]

You can also stack nian for max def

[turbid badge]

Borrowb

[lethal dragon]

Hell nah

[latent anvil]

💀

[lethal dragon]

55 rolls

[deep drum]

that works

[turbid badge]

yuu luck

[lethal dragon]

No 6*

[turbid badge]

[lethal dragon]

This sucks

[latent anvil]

bruh that was my cn acc

on 56 kirito

i got lee and uninstalled

[deep drum]

wait

dual strike clones

[lethal dragon]

Cleared 3 chapters

About to start chapter 3

[proud drift]

Yuu got accepted by ccp?

[turbid badge]

real

[latent anvil]

yea

[lethal dragon]

💪

My social credit

My luck

[proud drift]

Luck bad cuz no social credit

Time to work on it

[lethal dragon]

Fucking hate e0 gameplay

It sucks

Barely cleared 4 stages

[turbid badge]

[lethal dragon]

Cringe stage

[turbid badge]

better get on w the shu Base program 252

[lethal dragon]

Maaan

[turbid badge]

whatt

suzu?

[lethal dragon]

Beginner

[turbid badge]

I totally forgot they had suzu in there

[lethal dragon]

Lol

[turbid badge]

all i remmeber was weedy

[deep drum]

meul clones only copy the stats of operators right? not including their traits?

[latent anvil]

yes

no aoe

[deep drum]

would be funny 2 have 5 actual thorns lmao

or 5 ifrit

but nah it aint gonna work

suppose ST operators are just the way 2 go for damage and just put any chonky defenders/guards on melee

[turbid badge]

anyways merchants will be really good for the ranged one

[turbid badge]

ifrit one sucks lol

Slow Aspd, Does not do true aoe

So its just a straight line with 1 attack

[deep drum]

yeah it aint aoe

hmmm

[turbid badge]

Merchants are pretty tanky and 1s interval

[deep drum]

lee clone?

[turbid badge]

Yea

[deep drum]

finally no dp spent

[deep drum]

[turbid badge]

1 attack speed interval does wonders for the clone anyways

[frozen plover]

who needs lee when you can use jaye

he sells fish

[deep drum]

I could have 5 amiya guards 2 block tal's fireball on H8-4

20 res boi

add nightingale on the mix

[astral oyster]

Can mumu clone be heal?

[deep drum]

global heals?

[astral oyster]

Can tactition token even be heal?

[deep drum]

dunno

give it a try if ur on cn

[astral oyster]

Prob only be healed by bard and perfumer

[deep drum]

blemi as well

[turbid badge]

No

Silence abjurer can heal

Btw

[deep drum]

only global heals that I know

[turbid badge]

it since no heeen number

Green*

Tsukigoni heals, Suzuran Heal, Blemi Heal work

[astral oyster]

Sry am not spai am bilibili watcher only

[turbid badge]

Idk if heavyrains work

[astral oyster]

Using blemi to heal clone feels wierdge

[turbid badge]

id assume not

[turbid badge]

Lol than just use silence alter

[formal moss]

Heavy rain is like a paper plane trying to fly into the ocean

healing wise

[deep drum]

I think global heals work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp3Zm-f2oMA&list=TLPQMDEwNTIwMjOIlO9-6YxhKw&index=6&ab_channel=IloveArchetto

[turbid badge]

well ofc no green number works on every summon with stats yea

other than stainless cuz his turrets are enemies

[astral oyster]

Who needs heal when u can just make em on demand

[deep drum]

hmmmm

can I use summons for muel clones?

like lings dragons and monster

[hollow forum]

negative

[near folio]

Cant wait to drop 5 hellagurs

[deep drum]

sadge

[near folio]

I still remember the days Hellagur was considered broken

[astral oyster]

Old ppl in ako

[tall sierra]

The artillery ignore def or something?

Or dies some hp based dmg

[foggy grove]

arts

to be precise physical with normal attack and art with ability (25s cooldown) if you are asking chap 11 artillery

[flat sapphire]

ep10 3k true damage

[near folio]

I think hellagur could be really good in ch11 for camping those sarkaz casters

Though Mudrock already performs quite well on that

[flat sapphire]

yeh pretty much any other laneholder does it just fine or better

[copper vale]

question, why do people recommend low damage aoe operators for anni 16/shipyards

i have no idea how the enemies work there

i saw a guide recommending catapult or other low damage aoe snipers, and my immediate train of thought was "why can't I just stick Horn over there"

[deep drum]

just use lappland for silence

[latent anvil]

recommend catapult is trash, low damag eis not good

just kill them

[near folio]

For shipyard all you need is a Honeyberry

[copper vale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzXjzl-J0iE commentary at 1m17 is why

"otherwise you may trigger brand"

[deep drum]

I dont have thorns and I literally used horn, and my honey/mulberry aint well invested so I used lumen

improvise mate

[copper vale]

does overdamaging certain enemies make them start up the tiles or some shit

[latent anvil]

for allowing silence huh, how weak are ur ops

[deep drum]

if you think its a good idea why not give it a try

[copper vale]

not very

i haven't tried it yet because i have no idea how the enemies there work lol

[near folio]

Dont worry, the game already overdamages the mobs for you with the red tile

Just kill them asap

[deep drum]

remember to have silence

[copper vale]

yeah

[deep drum]

silence of lappland

[copper vale]

i have an e1-70 lapp

[tall sierra]

U know dat monster dat bonk u with stick... Yea need silence dat thing otherwise it corrupt the floor

[latent anvil]

you can just mow the grass that grows

[copper vale]

yeah i'm just thinking of sticking horn in the bottom right to spawncamp that

[near folio]

Just have someone behind the op with rhe corrupted floor to stop it from spreading

[copper vale]

facing left

[near folio]

And use Honeyberry to cure the elemental damage

[copper vale]

oh wait is that why they recommend not putting high damage there, so they don't kill them before lapp can silence them

[foggy grove]

yeah

[near folio]

Tbh you would still want high damage here cause of the dodge guys

[deep drum]

pretty much they deal corruption damage that could stun your enemy, and if one of those specific enemy died without being silenced they will drop a floor cancer on the ground that will spread, it will buff the enemies under the floor cancer **increasing their damage/dodge/gain invisibility while also dealing corruption damage 2 your operators under the floor cancer **

SO DO NOT LET THE FLOOR CANCER SPREAD

[hollow forum]

for the top part you can kinda stack as much damage as you want, since you'll be fine until at the very least 300

it's the bottom part that you might have to either keep an eye on or just don't have too many damage sources so that they don't die before getting silenced

[copper vale]

oh okay

[deep drum]

you use the free rombas given 2 you so you can clean the floor cancer
if the floor cancer ever dropped on the floor

[copper vale]

i'm guessing you don't quite get enough to just nip it every time it shows up if you stuck a high damage op down there for fun though

[hollow forum]

you get 4

[deep drum]

I have 5 :/

was the upgrade from SN still intact?

[hollow forum]

I've got no idea tbh, I don't think SN roombas will affect this anni

[deep drum]

like those thing deals a funny amount of damage if its stuck on 1 tile

[copper vale]

huh

do those flying enemies do phys or arts damage

[hollow forum]

regardless, if you set it up right and the enemies at the bottom get silenced properly, you'll be using those roombas at the top in the late 300s, where some of the enemies who drop goo when they die will spawn and try to go through the top lane

[deep drum]

dunno but they give you corruption damage

[copper vale]

ew

okay so i can't just park horn in the top left to kill them before they go through the stairs then

because she'll get corruption stunned probably

[deep drum]

the doberman in this postition is where I putted my horn

was my replacement for thorns

[hollow forum]

you can just let them go through the stairs, assuming you have sufficient damage

and put horn behind the main lane

[deep drum]

lappland stays there but I putted saria in front of her

you could use nearl/hung/gummy as a replacement

def dont want your lappland 2 die

[hollow forum]

also you don't really need that much healing

I only used an e1 60 chestnut and he did fine enough

but that really depends on how much dps you can deal

[copper vale]

i'll try it out in a bit

gotta do some other stuff first

[deep drum]

ight

[astral oyster]

i only use lappy as my dps and i used perfumer + e1 sl7 lvl 20 honey

[quartz pendant]

FUCK YOU MANFRED

EAT SHIT

[ancient hearth]

yes, yes, release the hate in your heart

[quartz pendant]

Mudrock died near the end so I managed to slap saria in her place before spamming the others out on him

Now I can read the story in PEACE

[analog shoal]

does anyone mind reviewing my scuffed anni strat
i don't have lapp so i'm gonna have to cope

[hollow forum]

what do you have going atm

[analog shoal]

1sec

[topaz knoll]

what stage is this

[hollow forum]

10-17 normal

[topaz knoll]

oh so that's how it looks in normal

I don't recognize the stages in normal

[astral oyster]

no wonder it feels wierdge

[hollow forum]

a lot of ppl don't because they did it in adverse

[topaz knoll]

that's one hell of a rarity abuse

doesn't s2 mudrock solo that

[hollow forum]

you can 2 op with mud and kal yeah

idk about mud soloing though

[topaz knoll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiq9c6ueaC4

okay not solo

but close enough

[analog shoal]

uhh the map planner lags my pc what do i do instead

[hollow forum]

[topaz knoll]

wait tbf

guadmiya doesn't do anything

she's just buffing mud's atk

not sure abt the nian on bench

[hollow forum]

I guess you could try and do the setup ingame

I think if it's under 100 enemies you get the full refund if you quit the stage

[astral oyster]

nian give 1 barrier no?

dk how good is it in this use case tho

[foggy grove]

she gives defender hp buff by being in squad

[analog shoal]

alr gimme a sec then

[flat sapphire]

you also get a full sanity refund from annihilation if u force exit the game

[hollow forum]

really now

[flat sapphire]

yep

[hollow forum]

the more you know, I suppose

[flat sapphire]

it records as 0 kills if u force exit

[frigid kite]

@quartz pendant gratz

Also 3* wow

[frigid kite]

Screenshot?

[analog shoal]

ye gimme a sec

i think i improved it more still scuffed tho

[quartz pendant]

I hate this game
I hate this game
I hate this game
I hate this game

But this story is too good to pass on

[copper vale]

aight, so: looking at this and wondering the follow things for a16
1: how important is putting an aoe guard on top lane, can I get away with other types of guards or nah
2: do you have to have two ranged guards for some reason

[hollow forum]

you saw that one afk guide with thorns and blaze didn't you

[copper vale]

nop

just the low end ones

[gentle finch]

@torn ice I did it

[copper vale]

that one used midnight and popukar lul

my roster is still kinda underdeveloped is why

[gentle finch]

I actually misplaced thorns

but hey

worked out anyways

[frigid kite]

@copper vale what are ya trying to do

[astral oyster]

this is the boss that spawn totem things right? i forgor his name

[gentle finch]

playwright next

[gentle finch]

mouthpiece

[hollow forum]

to answer your question,

1: not particularly, assuming the lane holder in question deals enough damage

2: no as well

[hollow forum]

the new SN anni

[astral oyster]

ah his gimmick is spawn totems and u need to kill it to dmg the boss right?

[copper vale]

lemme toss together the ops i have so far that i think will work onto a team

[turbid badge]

ewww

no skadi

[frigid kite]

[gentle finch]

E2 AOE guards inherently have 3 block

so having them at top lane is ideal

or else you might leak

a dodge guy

depends on if ur running lappland

[frigid kite]

Just anyone thst can deal AoE

[gentle finch]

fun fact: that gladiia was temp recruit

i originally wasn't going to abuse abyssals

[frigid kite]

Reason: the dodge enemies i forgot their names

[gentle finch]

i got really lucky with that one

[frigid kite]

The AoE unit will kill the dogs thst come with them

[gentle finch]

i got her like the stage before phantom at E1

[frigid kite]

And thats all

[gentle finch]

yes

once lappland targeting them

you'll be fine most likely

[formal moss]

Kal'sit true dmg go brrr vs them

[gentle finch]

real

[quartz pendant]

Now, do I roll in the banner that has flame tail and arch

[gentle finch]

uh

[formal moss]

No

[gentle finch]

wait 10 days

[hollow forum]

hell no

[gentle finch]

for busted banner

trust

[quartz pendant]

10 days

[gentle finch]

just my intuition

[quartz pendant]

New Sarkaz?

[gentle finch]

there may or may not be a limited banner

[frigid kite]

Texalter

[formal moss]

Flame tail and Cheeto r mind af

[gentle finch]

dropping with IS3

who knows

[boreal pulsar]

horn here for anni 4?

[quartz pendant]

Texalter

[gentle finch]

just my intuition

[boreal pulsar]

or here?

[hollow forum]

aren't you huffing on copium for kaltsit alter and want skalter

[quartz pendant]

🛌

[frigid kite]

Top

[quartz pendant]

Don't want Texalter

[frigid kite]

Looking to the left

[quartz pendant]

Want Sarkaz wives

[hollow forum]

why tf are you wasting pulls on random standard banners

[copper vale]

left side of my squad are ops I actually have leveled and will probably be useful, right side is shit that I'd like to use but can't level yet and idk if i'll be able to prep them in the week this anni is the rotating one

[quartz pendant]

Want Skalter and Kalter

[copper vale]

i have no long range snipers whatsoever

[formal moss]

Horn gonna die from the big guy if u do this

[quartz pendant]

My brother in Christ I haven't rolled on any banner after I got Kal'stit

[formal moss]

so top is better imo

[boreal pulsar]

saileach s2 or 3 in that case?

[quartz pendant]

I took a long ass break when I saw Kal'stit want in game after release and only came back to whale on her banner

[frigid kite]

S2 Is coping too much

[quartz pendant]

Took another break after maxing her out

[frigid kite]

But sure

[formal moss]

That might work but do u have. skalter?

[boreal pulsar]

do i want that stun and debuff or just heal mudrock

[hollow forum]

then my brother in christ you should be rolling for units that'll actually be useful for you, and texalt is one of those

[frigid kite]

I'd take the debuff

[mighty hill]

What is a good mastery i should go for on blemi if i even go for masteries

[quartz pendant]

Who else in the banner for Texalter

[formal moss]

s2 for general content s3 for haha surtr Hospital

[full finch]

take your pick of S2M3 or S3M3

[quartz pendant]

Not a fan of Texas tbf

[frigid kite]

Penance my beloved

The patriot soloer

[gentle finch]

penance is still great

[copper vale]

penance, rosmontis, skalter, nearlter

[hollow forum]

penance, an alternative to mudrock

and obviously there's the chance for that offrate skalter that you've been wanting

[quartz pendant]

Wait wait wait

Who's penance

[formal moss]

u forgor spalter

[quartz pendant]

[copper vale]

the only other 6* enmity defender

[quartz pendant]

I need PICTURE

[gentle finch]

she's

[copper vale]

spalter is rate up as well?

[quartz pendant]

Fuck it I'll look her up

[gentle finch]

yeah

[formal moss]

Oh rate up

[gentle finch]

she's a hot wolf judge

[hollow forum]

https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Penance

[gentle finch]

same archetype as mudrock

[copper vale]

wat

spalter ain't listed

[gentle finch]

but they work differently

[quartz pendant]

oh good Christ that hand is massive

[gentle finch]

Spalter only available starting from the CN banner rn

4th anniv

[quartz pendant]

Also you're gonna have to explain why she's like an alternate mudrock

[gentle finch]

cope for another 6-7 months

[copper vale]

same class branch, but her recovery mechanic is different

[frigid kite]

Damn

[boreal pulsar]

this should be good right? or should i use lappland in place of silverash?

[frigid kite]

How far have you gotten on actual anni?

[analog shoal]

18k hp with s3 but like 12k of that is in a shield that recovers over time

[copper vale]

instead of directly healing, penance gains barrier which is basically a second hp bar

[gentle finch]

she can't heal but basically gains another healthbar that she can refill via killing enemies

[copper vale]

whenever she kills enemies and on some skill uses

[formal moss]

Huh what

[frigid kite]

No need for lappland

[gentle finch]

her S3 basically mega charges her second healthbar

once it's up she basically won't die

[boreal pulsar]

?

so just keep silverash there?

[gentle finch]

also she has reflect like hoshiguma

but it arts

[quartz pendant]

So like Saria x Mudrock x Penance solos everything?

[gentle finch]

and does 2.1k on S3

[copper vale]

so I finished anni 3, i didn't list ops that wouldn't be relevant to a16 in that squad

[boreal pulsar]

is that about it for anni 4?

(im surprised i never beat it, im a fool)

[quartz pendant]

And if I get Skalter by chance....

[hollow forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wektv2asco&t=2s here's the funny for you

[formal moss]

Just remember to do redploy strats and u should be fine

[boreal pulsar]

ill probably only ever redeploy surtr

[full finch]

penance reflect only works when her barrier is active

[gentle finch]

basically her S3 at M3:
gives her a +130% healthbar over her normal one (she has 4k base hp)
each attack from an enemy reflects 2.1k arts to them
she hits for 4000 phys
cons: reduced atk interval and single target but hey 🤷
@quartz pendant

[full finch]

and she must kill enemies unless you're using S3

[frigid kite]

Also cool gray bar

[full finch]

however S3 is also defensive sp gain

[gentle finch]

increased atk interval*

my bad

ah yes it's defensive recovery

20 sp

[full finch]

so if penance is just taking damage and not killing anything
she just sorta dies

[copper vale]

s3 basically needs lots of fodder to activate or blemishine/liskarm i think

[boreal pulsar]

oh cool i have one more operator slot, who do i bring?

[analog shoal]

this strat is so scuffed idk if i even wanna send this here

[frigid kite]

Send it

[full finch]

wtf you have silverash but aren't doing the silverash cheese

[frigid kite]

At least let me judge it very badly

[gentle finch]

she just needs to chill in an active lane for like 10 seconds
if there's no big elites she will get S3 up
then it takes off from there and she probably won't die for the rest of the map

[copper vale]

this account is like 14 days old

[gentle finch]

sometimes she leaks though

because of her slow interval

[copper vale]

even spamming the shit out of is2 i aint made out of enough resources to s2 him yet

[gentle finch]

when she's blocking more chunky enemies

[copper vale]

er, e2 him*

[gentle finch]

E2 who

what are you doing

[hollow forum]

they're cooking a strat for the SN anni

[copper vale]

trying to figure out how to build a SN anni squad when i need to raise fully half a squad for it

lol

[gentle finch]

ohho

[frigid kite]

Hum

[gentle finch]

lol

[copper vale]

because most of my ops just don't do anything for this one

[frigid kite]

Just try the stage first

Lol

[quartz pendant]

Alright finished ch 10, story is cool

Now for 11

But WAIT

[quartz pendant]

I'ma take a break from AK

[gentle finch]

this yo ops

[quartz pendant]

CH 9 and 10 have worn me out

[gentle finch]

looking kinda rough tbh

[gentle finch]

suffer in IS2

[frigid kite]

Take a break for doing Hell stages

[quartz pendant]

No

I will not do He'll stages

[gentle finch]

play deep investigation

the sniper squad

[quartz pendant]

I tried the first ones

[gentle finch]

you'll have fun

[quartz pendant]

Oh fuck I forgot about Deep investigation and those CC stages

As well as that uhhhh

One for the module upgrades

[gentle finch]

wait are you actually planning

to clear with just this

lmfao

[quartz pendant]

But I have no clue how that one works