strategy

[granite moat]

no matter where i put her

[soft crystal]

Yeah you can literally just wait for talulah at the middle

[storm current]

Ok but

I asked about your set up

Still havent seen it

[vernal lion]

yea

[granite moat]

because i can't get to the point where i can send you the set up, cause my operation will be screwed at the second wave of enemies after talulah comes out

[glass monolith]

Out of my practice runs

I am not sure how but i pushed that shit into middle of map during actual run

[topaz knoll]

what if u just screen record

[granite moat]

could screen record the first minute before i die yea

[glass monolith]

could help to understand the fuck is going on

[storm current]

You can uh

Screenshot then edit image

[glass monolith]

Video might give better idea of what is going on, screenshot won't answer "why Eunectes dies again?"

[granite moat]

if i can send the video that is

[glass monolith]

just downgrade recording setting to not do 4k video

I record on like lowest my phone has for good old 240p experience

[granite moat]

oh i can't even do 1080p

[vernal lion]

@granite moat check my opening setup

[granite moat]

okay, i have one more idea

[spice gust]

Oh just finished this cancer, without Nightingale its so disgusting

[granite moat]

got it
at least the strategy part

[latent monolith]

Just use handbrake or smth doesn't matter what you record at

[granite moat]

no no, i got it, now i just need the timing for these

done

[latent anvil]

[granite moat]

actually this was really easy
i just had to pull out CLS

[latent anvil]

cls

[granite moat]

Chen, Ling, Surtr

[mossy chasm]

https://imgur.com/a/mo3dllg

Any advice for H5-3?

The poison plus exploding spiders plus how fast everything comes at you plus the heavily armored guys just outpace my dp

[sweet marlin]

can I get the bear ending encounter on floor 5?

or is it too late

[soft crystal]

Yes i think

[latent anvil]

No

Not the first bear ending encounter on floor 5

That impossible

You can get suicide note and scissors but not the painting

[sweet marlin]

i see ty

i think for now on i'll reset run if no painting on floor 1

[gleaming lodge]

Eventually go to floor 2

Floor 1 only has 2 encounters at most

[latent anvil]

Just spam beat floor 3 to unlock more relics at that point

And then since ur already so invested might as well clear floor 4 and 5

[hollow flume]

What stage was it to get guardmiya

[latent anvil]

Jt8-2

[hollow flume]

Well I just gotta get e2 amiya so

[cloud pulsar]

Do all of these operators benefit from Flametails evade trait and Mlynars attack trait?

[frigid kite]

@mossy chasm

Btw save Mlynar skill for that part, the last one

[hollow flume]

Wait it just locked me out of stage lol

[somber falcon]

You have lapp, just use her to lanehold one side and gav can do the other. Add mlynar in mid to cover if they got crowded.
For the defense crushers just let ceobe deal with them

[hollow flume]

What are the requirements to get guardmiya?

[frigid kite]

JT8-2 Amiya Caster e2

[gleaming lodge]

Check their faction in their profile

[hollow flume]

Well that's required to start the stage so I'm guaranteed to get it

Woo

[latent anvil]

Doesn't it literally tell you that you need e2 amiya to start

[hollow flume]

Yeah

[cloud pulsar]

Do the Pinus Slyvetris count as Kazmeriez operators?

Thank goodness

[gleaming lodge]

Do they ?

[frigid kite]

1sc

[hollow flume]

Wait...

[latent anvil]

That don't sound right

[cloud pulsar]

I hope they do, because Flametail offers evade why wouldn’t she help her own team

[latent anvil]

Too much synergy

[hollow flume]

Is it bad that my młynar has more hp AND defense than most of my guard ops

[gleaming lodge]

No it just means he is good

[hollow flume]

Does skill 2 młynar technically have more dmg on single target

[gleaming lodge]

Go check on Vicktorlab

Also what does "technically" mean here

[frigid kite]

If he hits all the hits

And no

Not even close

[hollow flume]

No defense counted

[frigid kite]

Still no

[hollow flume]

Cause it's 2 hits isn't it?

Oh alr

[frigid kite]

No, it's because S3 deals so much high damage

I mean

Just seeing the numbers you will check by yourself lol

[hollow flume]

I don't think the true dmg is shown either though cause it's kinda low value or is it shown in the big red number

Nvm it doubles the trait lol (s3)

[elder flume]

what coding stain bot as enemy does

first operator to deal elemental damage

[soft crystal]

S2 has higher atk interval in exchange for x2 attack

[hollow flume]

Yeah

[soft crystal]

But s3 still higher dps

[frigid kite]

Also with AoE 💀

[hollow flume]

Wait what happens if s3 plus the sponsor drone with atk spd buff

[soft crystal]

X2 trait and 1.92 atk scale

Mlynar deletes

Basically with any aspd

[hollow flume]

Cause that time my exu also buffed them

And my saileach

[soft crystal]

S2m3 mlynar is pretty close to s3m3 dps and has a shorter cycle but st

[hollow flume]

But it isn't worth to invest m3 in it is it

(S2)

[soft crystal]

No it isnt

[frigid kite]

It counts everyone except the 3⭐

Mlynar elitist

[vernal lion]

wait, how?

[vernal lion]

it's called Faction

they don't fucking care about place of birth

[elder flume]

their scarlet number row space is weirdge

[gleaming lodge]

Isn't that just RNG ?

Usually they overlap

[elder flume]

overlap how

thats 1 scarlet number from ambriel

[vital arrow]

[vernal lion]

59774
2330
94

[elder flume]

this is chiave

[lethal dragon]

😱

[elder flume]

something something stage hazard boss extra abilities has to do with stain bot considered as an enemy

[gleaming lodge]

Red numbers from the same op overlap ?
Stuff like Eyja S2 or Ceobe normal attacks can produce two red numbers
And they always overlap for me

[elder flume]

but the ambriel is 1 red number

59774233094 is the total damage

[gleaming lodge]

Ohhh

That's a lot of damage

How did you even get that ?
Hack client ?

[elder flume]

is2 relic spam

whatever this means

[gleaming lodge]

???

Since when is Ambriel true damage ?

[frigid kite]

Basically heavyshooter relic

And multipliers

[gleaming lodge]

I don't remember what the relic does

Oh it oneshots

[frigid kite]

Mhm

[gleaming lodge]

And naturally in AK, oneshot equals 999999 true damage

[frigid kite]

Until enemy with 1m hp appears

[gleaming lodge]

Truly an intellectually brilliant game design

[frigid kite]

[gleaming lodge]

It would need to have a bit over 3M HP actually

Because of the 30% cap

[turbid badge]

oh enemy does corrosion damage

on thatcstage

[gleaming lodge]

Makes me wonder if there is any infinite or 0 that is coded properly in this game

[proud drift]

But sir

[gleaming lodge]

Given even annihilations have DP generation

[proud drift]

Actually

Might be video explaining how multipliers work ig

Hence why random patriot mine

And civilight aeterna

[gleaming lodge]

wdy random ?

Also check the mechanics sheet I guess

[proud drift]

Because the screenshot where the damage was shown does not have patriot mines

Nor does ambriel do true damage

[elder flume]

mine debuff

[gleaming lodge]

It has the blue arrows

[proud drift]

Mine from where??

[gleaming lodge]

From IS ?

You can get them

[proud drift]

It has patriot mines?

Wtf

[frigid kite]

[elder flume]

shop usually has

[proud drift]

Literally never seen one lmao

[gleaming lodge]

#strategy resident moment
Doesn't play the game

You can get :
Fog device
Espace crane
Stun bomb
SP device
Ch7 mine (x2)

[proud drift]

Legit never had it and I played IS a lot

[gleaming lodge]

The sniper hand makes her deal 1M true damage as the "insta-kill"

[vernal lion]

and the fast redeploy sign

[elder flume]

wonder how their sleep bubble can go through their hazmat masks

[proud drift]

I’m curious why they pepega code 999999 true damage

And not nust

Just*

100% max hp

Or current hp

[gleaming lodge]

Because HG cannot code infinity nor 0
As they above, by myself

[vernal lion]

code as max hp means it needs to calculate the value for "each" of enemy

[gleaming lodge]

That doesn't sound too complicated though

[vernal lion]

so if the map got like 50 enemies or higher, the lag will appear

[gleaming lodge]

Also what if they have DR or regen ?

[proud drift]

True damage?

[vernal lion]

like this one

goddamn I hope it's not too lag for me lol

[gleaming lodge]

Only the enemies on the screen are calculated don't worry

[elder flume]

kaltsit targetting is funi

[frigid kite]

Lol

[turbid badge]

MY TOKEN OR ME FIRST

[proud drift]

Wtf is this even

Why does it look like one of those shitty zombie defense ad games

[vernal lion]

it is

[sweet marlin]

which one was the blade thing

[gentle finch]

it's not there

choose shadow

[gleaming lodge]

His lordship is a refund of your money

Whiteflower shuffles the DP cost of your ops every stage

And shadow gives increased chance of 0 hope recruits

[gentle finch]

temporary recruits

[latent anvil]

There are 4 options but the game always gives you 3

[sweet marlin]

7 left to go

[latent anvil]

Ending 4 where

[glass monolith]

Why it was not permament game mod yostar

[sweet marlin]

i'm thinking of raising cutter mainly for is, what do you think

[vernal lion]

Idk, maybe it's heavy content or smth?

imagine keep each of the season for that game mode

each of it has to be at least 500MB lol

[turbid badge]

sure

Shes good even not for IS

[sweet marlin]

too bad bibeak skills are arts damage

[tidal sedge]

Bibeak s1 hits on primary target are phys

[blissful wren]

I plan on getting the Top Operator pack that lets me level any 6* E2 to lvl 90. Should I use that on Texas or Penance?

[hard urchin]

[lethal dragon]

Did you try gnosis

He can solo boss

[glass monolith]

Until you realize you suck at cooking game and feed boss status resist

[hard urchin]

💀

Come on

[glass monolith]

RANDOM BULLSHIT GO, recall medics deploy Saria to stall for enough time

or yeet Amiya because GG cuter

[vernal lion]

I like how everyone is cost more x3 times than normal

[sonic willow]

eazy

[hard urchin]

Indeed

[glass monolith]

During original run i was just repeating GG, Fartooth, friend support gnosis on all boss stages. On rerun i will probably do some next tier BS featuring Stainless

[sonic willow]

just use Kal to kill boss again and again

[hard urchin]

I did is not efficient

[sonic willow]

huh wha

[hard urchin]

I will take option 2

[glass monolith]

I had Phantom red box boss 5 times in SN

It was quite fun see phase 2 take 30 second break at place where normally phase 1 shows its existance

[turbid badge]

huh

war

wtff

[livid delta]

SN rerun is a lot more fun with Tex²

[glass monolith]

*Stainless device block +1

[pale orchid]

personally cant wait to assblast it with gnosis + Lappland

i will get my revenge for all the trauma caused

[livid delta]

I've been using Ines to reveal the invis units
Pretty good

[pale orchid]

how has ines been? always been curious about that unit since her kit looks unique

[turbid badge]

i love the wording on little handy it clearly says “Operators gain 1 block”

[livid delta]

Pretty fun
A lot of nuanced things in her kit
Idk if I'd go out of my way to get her
But I'd build her right away if she spooked me

[glass monolith]

CC risk: You have -1 block.
0 block in UI beanstalk crab still blocks enemies.
SN: Operators have +1 block
Literally everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEFzsxtwouo

[turbid badge]

soon mueleseye in little handy

[hard urchin]

I win

Gnosis solo the boss💀💀💀

[proud drift]

Did you pick S1 finally

Or still on S3

[lethal dragon]

Doesn't matter honestly

He can freeze with autos

Permafreeze

[proud drift]

Idk my e1 gnosis during event soloed it with s1, but somehow ppl would fail to do it

So I thought s1 might be important

[lethal dragon]

Nah you need to use right buffs

[latent anvil]

Dswopey if he eat the wrong chicken he gets blubber so he doesn't freeze

You might have just gotten lucky with what boss ate

[proud drift]

Well no

I know not to feed it mushrooms

Hardest part about s-5 was to make sure he doesn’t eat mushroom

Cuz the stage even felt like it was made to make sure it eats shroom

[elder flume]

if it can be targeted it can be shifted

[glass monolith]

Shift BSL

[latent monolith]

Yeet the bear

[elder flume]

with force 8 yes

can boss even eat all 9 buffs

[proud drift]

Yes..?

If you do the bug

Where it eats both at the same time

Unless it counts only one

Despite eating two

If it’s even a bug

[latent monolith]

You can make it eat all three in one tile

[elder flume]

But theres a same type of buff later

Does it stack

[proud drift]

Don’t think they stack

But unsure how would one test it

[elder flume]

I can get them all in 1 spot but sn s is quite far

Im still doing robin

[proud drift]

Issue is

You can’t stall boss

Can you?

Actually he doesn’t walk thru

You might be able to I guess

As long as you can survive christmas tree buff

[elder flume]

Stainless will help me

Idt i can bring all corruption enemies to safe tiles while making boss eat 3 at once

Prob have to focus on 1

[proud drift]

Well

Can also just have boss eat 2 and 1

Lol

[cyan gorge]

You can, iirc the phases that eats the shield guy it needs 3 block to stall

[proud drift]

Yeah I forgot

Only 1st phase

Isn’t blocked

[cyan gorge]

it only isn't blockable on the goo

[proud drift]

But issue is how do you survive christmas tree buff

Saria?

[cyan gorge]

Nian + Shining and pray

[elder flume]

Reef and corrosion

If i get weedy or enforcer i can keep my defenders safe off skill prob

[proud drift]

Corrosion is w/e

Just take the thing that makes u immune to fart on ground

And cope with berry

Reef is only one I’d be genuinely worried about

Unless reef buff also makes the boss eventually oneshot corrosion bar

[elder flume]

Corruptors dont leave fart if they die in protected ground tile

I plan to kill them all there

[cyan gorge]

the build up is proportional to enemy atk stat

if it gets too high, one shot stun

[elder flume]

Oya i can use mousse s1m3

[glass monolith]

This was relevant to me literally once. 10-16 hard when i used Shamare doll to defuse casters

[elder flume]

Infinite -50% atk

[proud drift]

Isn’t elemental atk a separate value

Actually I guess

Cc9 flower risk

Made them do more ele dmg

[cyan gorge]

Yeah it's directly proportional to atk stat

so you need some kind of atk down + MB s2

[latent monolith]

They also don't fart if you silence them

Just use lappdumb

[waxen swan]

Do people still use hoshi s3 ?

[scarlet ledge]

i still use it

[waxen swan]

For what

[latent anvil]

Yea

It's pretty good sometimes

[livid delta]

If s2 def isn't enough

[glass monolith]

you can't sing bayblade while using S2

[frigid kite]

You can sleep while using S2 thought

[glass monolith]

There are better times for sleep than that

Night. Food break. Attempt to read NL in single sitting

[frigid kite]

[tidal sedge]

Can I clear most general bosses with eyja and sa whaling on them? (Main story stages not including patriot

[frigid kite]

Yes

Including patriot

[glass monolith]

Well you can kill almost anything with anything

[frigid kite]

Not event bosses tho

[tidal sedge]

Oh

yeah I get event bosses

No way in hell am I beating Mr tentacle fish

[frigid kite]

[glass monolith]

[frigid kite]

I used

Saria and Thorns

To kill him

[tidal sedge]

Or wtf the name of Mr gigantic fish boss

[frigid kite]

Wair

SN or SV

[glass monolith]

????

[tidal sedge]

this is talking aboutnthe gigantic seaborn boss

[frigid kite]

It has always been wair

[tidal sedge]

I have no idea what the actual name is

[frigid kite]

Yeah SV

[glass monolith]

SV

[tidal sedge]

It's wair?

is this a misspelt wait

[glass monolith]

It is Q something and because game loves using 20 more letters after Q and i don't have idea how to read it anyway so whatever, just i wouldn't call it fish

[tidal sedge]

I'd advise against that

[glass monolith]

Overgrown flower

[tidal sedge]

I think quintus????????

[frigid kite]

Quintus but spoiler

[tidal sedge]

Chapter 9 is fuck your arts damage and 10 is generally fuck your damage right?

[glass monolith]

Tell it to me 1 year ago and every time i dozed off while having finger on screen activate x16 skip

[tidal sedge]

It took me 3 sittings to read all of NL

[glass monolith]

And then chapter 12 generally fucks you

[frigid kite]

🥶

Me when i have to read everything after Mountain event

[tidal sedge]

I tried to read nl, took longer than me trying to kill blood knight (I did not kill blood knight

[frigid kite]

Wao

[tidal sedge]

Chap 11?

What happens there ???

[glass monolith]

Chapter 11 uh... It fucks at random moments i guess?

[tidal sedge]

Fuckin with the element of surprise

[glass monolith]

Like there is enemy with like 1500 DEF but 10 RES. Enemy with 0 DEF but instakill if blocked etc etc

[frigid kite]

Literally Texalter moment

[glass monolith]

Also do you like chopping trees? Ambriel love chopping tree. And if you don't chop tree that tree will walk up to you and Mudrock colossus you up

[tidal sedge]

Texalter's wet dream

No need to block

[tidal sedge]

Don't worry I have the goddamn machete

[glass monolith]

Also be ready to have half of stage be pissed in DoT sause

[frigid kite]

I wonder if H1-11 is really that hard

Hmmm

[glass monolith]

I personally look on it, and fuck it

You know stage is bullshit when you check someone doing it and Mlynar dies in 3 seconds

[frigid kite]

Damn

Skill issue

[tidal sedge]

H1 11?

Amazing

[frigid kite]

Damn typos

[tidal sedge]

H11 1?

[glass monolith]

Layout is sorta like LE-EX-7 but reverse

[tidal sedge]

At what stage of the game should I start going through h stages

[frigid kite]

Aaaaah i see why now

[glass monolith]

You have practice plans, try it, if you get screwed, leave

I did H stages of chapter 10 on release and everything before it during one of dead weeks

[tidal sedge]

lovely time to die to mephisto herd, again

[frigid kite]

LE-EX-7 had some very nice maldings

[tidal sedge]

Isn't that the IS boss map layout

[frigid kite]

What a nice event

[tidal sedge]

Kind of sort of

[frigid kite]

IS3?

[tidal sedge]

ok question how tf to beat the bob beer stage layout?

[frigid kite]

Cheese it

[glass monolith]

Use snipers who can kill drones before they come near
Realize you have none
Die

[tidal sedge]

I am in pain everytime I see this state

Forsaken One's map

[glass monolith]

Also if you have boots to deploy ranged on melee you can just cheese with spawn killing drones

[frigid kite]

Ah yeah but forsaken goes around the center

[tidal sedge]

Use borrowed thorns
realize you brought mud mud

[frigid kite]

That stage reminds me of H10-1 actually

Lol

[tidal sedge]

Bob beer enemies aren't even thst difficult it's just that the other side has 1 damage every 2 minutes

[glass monolith]

H11-1 have very toxic enemy spam for me

[tidal sedge]

Ranged units at bot left, melee unit to soak drones and bomb tails, arts or chunky atk phys ops at top

[glass monolith]

IF ONLY I HAD LUNACUB.... oh wait she is texas banner

[tidal sedge]

Why am I fighting the united state military worth of drones

[frigid kite]

We'll see next 27th

If I even had enough sanity lol

[tidal sedge]

That's the standard strat at least

[tidal sedge]

how to fsnk bombtails

dhdgdyssddd

[latent anvil]

you put thorns face down and win

[tidal sedge]

Cardi should soak fine

[latent anvil]

[tidal sedge]

If you're light on healing, you can rotate bodies to soak possibly depending on what your squad looks like

[gentle finch]

hm

[tidal sedge]

[gentle finch]

brah

[tidal sedge]

I have like 3 good ops built how am I even getting to floor 5

[gentle finch]

is yo kroos max level

[tidal sedge]

Yes

[gentle finch]

ez win

[tidal sedge]

very much maxed

how

[gentle finch]

just hold the brawler dudes

and maybe give kroos another sniper

[glass monolith]

Kroos + any damage relic = those drones are fucking dead

[tidal sedge]

I always put my kroos at the bottom right, prob why she dies

[gentle finch]

she can solo drones depending on relics

[tidal sedge]

I mean left

[glass monolith]

[gentle finch]

???(

why

[tidal sedge]

bot left

[gentle finch]

that's like the worst placement

[tidal sedge]

The c o r n e r

[glass monolith]

Try top left and look down so she attack drones with edge of her range while they waste time making corner

[gentle finch]

top left is best

bottom left is for bait

[tidal sedge]

Ok thank

who do I shove at bot left, gummy?

[frigid kite]

None

Who are you using?

Ah wait

Yes

To bait the drones, sure

[gentle finch]

yeah

might as well

as long as you can hold brawlers you good

I'd say that's one of the easier stages

[frigid kite]

Good ol' felt off Thorns

[glass monolith]

If you have good enough sniper and or relics you can even skip bait part

No need to bait against corpse

[frigid kite]

I guess Archetto may solo it

Can she?

[latent anvil]

just thorn face down win entire stage

[tidal sedge]

Kazemaru is funny in Bob's Beers too

Except for maybe Chachek, she doesn't die bot left

The swap timer syncs perfectly with bombtails

[glass monolith]

2 more days and i will check if you can show to chapter 11 boss and go camo

[frigid kite]

Did you guys link people to video guides or something?

[latent anvil]

#help prejudice is okay abanicador

do not fret over it

[frigid kite]

[glass monolith]

Incoming chapter 11 boss bypass camo because nobody tried anyway as everyone used Eben for oneshot

[proud drift]

Why what happened

[latent anvil]

we were talking about low end squads/guides and abanicador was like 'you can come over to #strategy for sweaty guides' and they railed him by saying '#strategy will just link you to guide anyway, dont need to use discord to get link to guide'

[proud drift]

#help try to be helpful challenge (impossible)

[livid delta]

Do you guys think there's any stages
That even with a video guide is hard to pull off

[frigid kite]

Maybe only hard stages

But when you are a beginner everything is pretty fucked up

[proud drift]

H9-6

Can be a bit of a bitch

[livid delta]

No damage 1p relay guides

[latent anvil]

maybe stages with mechanics that wont play the same for every player in every single run... like cannon in ch10 or fireballs in ch8

[proud drift]

It also just depends on the player’s attentiveness and understanding of mechanics

[livid delta]

Pre-nerf SSS guides lol

[proud drift]

Cause one can struggle some very simple guides due to not being attentive

While one can struggle with ch10 cause they just go

Why operator boom

[livid delta]

Honestly some of the OF stages were kinda hard even with a guide

Cause the lava would destroy the road blocks

[proud drift]

Though then again, a big amount of playerbase doesn’t even do story

Past like ch6

[livid delta]

Also enemies traveling the opposite way

[proud drift]

Cuz I see A LOT of ppl with story progress being 9-1

[latent anvil]

i mean if i went into that stage blind idk if i could beat it easily

[lethal dragon]

Not at all
H9-6 will be sooo easy with guide

[proud drift]

Before mlynar and such

[waxen swan]

Wtf you guys not doing story

[turbid badge]

wtf

[lethal dragon]

Even without Mlynar

[lethal dragon]

Imagine reading

[latent anvil]

well that just because ch9 is available very early on and you can get free op for unlock the first story... also people like the lore

so they dont spoil themselves

[waxen swan]

Who tf care for story just do the damm H stage

[proud drift]

Yeah but it feels like a big amount of ppl don’t do story

2020-2021 player with story progress 9-1

[lethal dragon]

I have everything cleared i need more content but CCP won't let me in

[proud drift]

[frigid kite]

Well, most people i've seen here looking for help are on bosses event stages, and then they have a fully E2 team while on 4-10

[latent anvil]

dswopey there is something called lazy dokutah or casual dokutah with no time irl

[turbid badge]

Yuu get mumu soon real

[latent anvil]

cannot reroll

[lethal dragon]

Real not a click bait

[latent anvil]

wait yuu just play star rail isnt server opening tonight or something

[waxen swan]

5 more hours

[latent anvil]

star rail aether gazer or wuthering waves im not off topic dont ban me

[lethal dragon]

Yeah I am gonna cope that playing CN will ruin the freshness of playing en content

6th day started

[glass monolith]

Let's not go off-rails, leave it to #cn-lounge

[turbid badge]

[lethal dragon]

Guys can sl-7 Ng work in h8-4

Or is it just my skill issues that I need someone to block fire for her

[latent anvil]

what lvl

but also why not m3 nightingale 10/10 waifu

also ng has dodge so you can also just get unlucky/lucky

[lethal dragon]

Level 60

[lethal dragon]

Yeah I assume I was just unlucky

[glass monolith]

I did it with SL7 NG, but everything else in my H8-4 was shitshow

[lethal dragon]

Did she die?

[latent anvil]

yuu put ur ng on support and i will use her for your own testing

[lethal dragon]

One min

[latent anvil]

[glass monolith]

I'm pretty sure by end of second fire wave i had everyone dead and 1 of civilians taking 1 hit

[lethal dragon]

Done

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

lmaoo

Mf yuu

[latent anvil]

im crying

[turbid badge]

u can borrow mine

[latent anvil]

teta what lvl urs

[turbid badge]

90

[latent anvil]

wtf rich

[turbid badge]

its okay i have modul

[latent anvil]

mine is only e2 77 mod3

[turbid badge]

wtf mod 3

[latent anvil]

ng waifu ofc i mod3

[turbid badge]

ive been using her partner more

[latent anvil]

i mod3 everyone thats why im perma <5 digit lmd

[gleaming lodge]

????
buddy you complain about being poor but you mod3 stuff

[turbid badge]

cough cough shining

[gleaming lodge]

interesting take

[latent anvil]

perma <5 digit lmd

[gleaming lodge]

on my way to spend 1M LMD for 3% more healing

[latent anvil]

but who cares about the value, it looks good on operator screen

[turbid badge]

waits its actually 1m

i thought it was like 500lmd

500k

[glass monolith]

When you can just e2 Nearl for 10%, globally instead limited to range

[gleaming lodge]

nah it's not 1M, I'm making this up

[turbid badge]

is tht supise to be sacarastic

oh phew

[gleaming lodge]

imagine using defenders

[proud drift]

80 100 120

[turbid badge]

Ok liskarm lisence experied

[glass monolith]

I know right. We all know sniper knight is future

[proud drift]

For 6*

[turbid badge]

oh nice

[gleaming lodge]

still, 300k LMD is insane for the small gains mod3 represents

[turbid badge]

300k

[proud drift]

I usually mod3 just to complete it

Unless it’s complete shit

[turbid badge]

me too

[proud drift]

Like blemi

[turbid badge]

actually nvm

[gleaming lodge]

you're wrong
I'm only one to have the Liskarm License

[latent anvil]

i mod3 everyone i like

[proud drift]

I keep blemi mod1 cuz mod2-3 is

[glass monolith]

most of mod3 is simp or "I want to 4 AH only this stage" tier bullshit for most operators

[turbid badge]

i think i have way more mod 2

[proud drift]

But yea mod3 is usually just to have it “finished” even if it’s minimal gain

As long as it’s gain

[turbid badge]

i only mod 3 nian since i really hated her mod 2 cuz when all shields broke its not enough for skill, and the 3sp is so much more handing than 2sp

[latent anvil]

@lethal dragon nah ur ng literally just dies consistently

ur not unlucky, you just have to get lucky if you want her to live

[turbid badge]

defective Ng

[latent anvil]

or just chuck someone with res in front of her

[proud drift]

Can try skaltering her to give some passive regen?

Unless she just fails to outheal it

[livid delta]

What do you guys think of Holy Kayak

Levitate good?

Her s2 reminds me of Ange s2

[latent anvil]

her s2 has fast cycle iirc

[lethal dragon]

[latent anvil]

but low numbers, so it fast cycle dps

i mean idk what levitate is doing on a caster tbh

whats levitate even useful for

[livid delta]

Qnnuypalaat has levitate

[turbid badge]

Sure

[turbid badge]

trapmaster

[glass monolith]

Tornado skill looks sick. Everything else is "But why"

[turbid badge]

[lethal dragon]

Waifu trophy

[proud drift]

Unique form of cc

[livid delta]

core caster

I'm hesitant

[turbid badge]

Just wait for Module news

wait did she get one

she did right

[lethal dragon]

Caster in 2023

[proud drift]

The res one supposedly

[latent anvil]

yea idk it cant really replace gg

[glass monolith]

WEIGHT -2 TALENT

[livid delta]

What ops benefit from levitate

[proud drift]

Question is what talent

[proud drift]

Irene

[turbid badge]

Dorothy!

[latent anvil]

irene but irene sucks ass

[lethal dragon]

Irene only

[latent anvil]

irene 🚮

[lethal dragon]

That's fixed I am sure

[turbid badge]

Why do leviatate operators benefit each other

[livid delta]

But irene can levitate on her own

[turbid badge]

Huh

it got fixed?

again

it worked last time i tried

[lethal dragon]

Again?

[livid delta]

Cutter s2 works on levitate right

[turbid badge]

oh i heard u can use leviatte for chen s3

[latent anvil]

cutter can hit air so surely

[lethal dragon]

[turbid badge]

to hit air

[lethal dragon]

Double Dmg on air

[livid delta]

Yeah but does she get– is it only drones

[latent anvil]

i mean idk levitate is just there to add more levitate to the game i think, its like kjera adding freeze on a caster

[livid delta]

I thought it's all air units right

[lethal dragon]

Oh yeah fuck

[latent anvil]

too little levitate in the game so they made holeyak

[livid delta]

No it says double on air enemies

[turbid badge]

U can use it with chongyue s2, if ur unlucky and he doesnt get his talent proq

[livid delta]

Who has levitate right now

[proud drift]

I mean aren’t a good chunk of enemies that are immune to cc

Usually not immune to levitate

[turbid badge]

Irene , qani Uhh

Ching

chongis

[livid delta]

Just 3?

I guess that's it

4 if you include Kayak

[lethal dragon]

Hole

[latent anvil]

yea, they probably just put keyword levitate because more needs to be added to game

freeze guard next?

[livid delta]

She's also the only other op that can reduce weight

[turbid badge]

Yea

[proud drift]

Well

[latent anvil]

but does the weight thing even stack with ange

[turbid badge]

Enemy has to be below certain hp

[proud drift]

Isn’t hoolhe arts in lore something with wind or air

[turbid badge]

its like 40%

[proud drift]

I remember smth about it from dv

[livid delta]

Doesn't stack but as long as enemy is in her range

Can enemies in the air get shifted by weedy

[lethal dragon]

Yeah Ange is just better for this stuff

[latent anvil]

make ulpianus reaper with random ice added to kit, that sounds balanced i think

[lethal dragon]

Hnm

[latent anvil]

ice on a reaper sounds kinda stupid tbh, nvm bad idea 🚮

[livid delta]

Where rainchan

I bet he knows

[latent anvil]

@elder flume come here

[turbid badge]

she changes the air composition around her iirc

[livid delta]

Can enemies be shifted from a levitate state

[turbid badge]

flying enemies i dont think they get shifted lmdao

[livid delta]

Also

[turbid badge]

what is ice

[gleaming lodge]

no

[livid delta]

If an enemy is in the middle of being shifted
Does their momentum go to 0 of they're levitated

[latent anvil]

whatever gnosis and aurora do, that ice

[gleaming lodge]

you can already test that with Irene

[turbid badge]

oh

[gleaming lodge]

stop being lazy

[turbid badge]

xd

[livid delta]

I don't have irene

[gleaming lodge]

borrow

[latent anvil]

ig you cant target floating stuff with shift huh

[livid delta]

I could probably borrow

But who the hell has irene

[latent anvil]

i give you my irene now friend me

[turbid badge]

i think its cool frozen is only given to kjerag operators right now

[latent anvil]

nah give ulpianus that too, get some more inclusion

[gleaming lodge]

Ulpianus is just going to make AH giga-busted

[proud drift]

A lot of ppl do

Irene is a cute waifu

And a banger unit

[gleaming lodge]

there is no need for him to inflict chill

[latent anvil]

i already found it before you sent

[livid delta]

[latent anvil]

yea wonder if rain is done testing gg s2

i put irene up but are you really gonna test her

[livid delta]

Hoolheyak prob means I don't need sl1 Ange

[livid delta]

Maybe later I'm at work

[latent anvil]

weedy cant even target floating enemy right? just splash from s3? doesnt seem possible to shift levitating enemy

[livid delta]

You can

Hit air

[latent anvil]

can hit with splash from cannon s3, but cannot push i think...

[lethal dragon]

Dalao

[turbid badge]

shift doesnt work with air

Idk try jetpack dudes

Im certain u cant push drones

[lethal dragon]

Drones could be unbalance immune

[livid delta]

I thought it's because drones have imbalance immune

[proud drift]

I’ll test levitate with feater and gladiia

[lethal dragon]

Gladiia can't pull them

[proud drift]

Feater s2 can hit air right

[lethal dragon]

^

[proud drift]

Feater didn’t push them

But she did use the skill

But what I also did is

Feater s2>irene s2

And the enemy levitated at the end of the destination

[latent anvil]

if you levitate with irene s3 and then sell do they stay floating

[proud drift]

I used irene s2 for levitate cuz mine is e1 lmao

And also less likely to kill

[latent anvil]

e1 irene i envy you

i leveled irene because of my friend and i regret it

she 🚮

[turbid badge]

oh wait i can actually try

my irenes e0

[proud drift]

Ou actually

Irene levitating

Cancelled its flight

So it didn’t fly to red

[proud drift]

That’s just skill issue

I borrowed irene a bunch of times

Cause of how good she is

And very fun to use

[latent anvil]

i dont like her

offensive recover 🚮

[proud drift]

I’d guess levitate makes enemy imbalance immune

Unless it’s also just

If air=imbalance immune

Unless there’s air enemies that can be pulled

[storm current]

Dswopey

[proud drift]

What

[storm current]

@solar runeLil4c

Go

[proud drift]

What

[turbid badge]

secret code

[storm current]

Ah

Blamediscord

[proud drift]

Casually pings wrong person

[latent anvil]

markup failed

[storm current]

Idk

[turbid badge]

lol

[proud drift]

Maybe that person not in discord lol

[storm current]

No

Its not a discord ping

[latent anvil]

Heres a tutorial

[storm current]

@a_Lil4c

Go

[glass monolith]

I swear don't do that fansy link shit, people will fucking default into pinging mods

[proud drift]

What do you mean by @ a lil4c

[latent anvil]

but it funny

[latent anvil]

i just went

i dont know what to say

[proud drift]

Oh I see now

I saw it before tho

[storm current]

Hmm ye

I wonder if i want to modY archetto

[turbid badge]

is thata archetto fan art or something

[storm current]

Man

[proud drift]

Artist who did very banger archetto

[storm current]

Archetto s3 feel eh to use

[proud drift]

Idk S1 is my favorite lol

[storm current]

I think i like s1 more ye

[proud drift]

S2 feels most eh

S1>S3>S2

I need 10k more LMD to lv90 her

[storm current]

Archetto is objectively best marksman

Real

Exu fall off

[proud drift]

Exu can do some funky boss oneshots, but I don’t feel like raising her

Don’t find her cute or waifu either

Chetto ModY is the sp regen right?

[storm current]

No

Y is helidrop

[glass monolith]

I have Exu. Exu killed Frostnova. Never again she was used

[storm current]

X is regen

[proud drift]

Huh

[glass monolith]

Okay if i be 100% fair i used Exu on WR boss

[proud drift]

Doesn’t she have a mod that buffs SP regen?

[storm current]

ModY default is +8aspd when theres ground enemies

[proud drift]

oh

[turbid badge]

ye

[proud drift]

So current one

[glass monolith]

Second module is SP on archeto

[storm current]

In total, she get 12aspd for modY3

[proud drift]

Idk I mod3 cuz chetto lol

[storm current]

Meaning modY is the best for s3

[turbid badge]

the second module is good for fiametta current module is still good since ASPD

[storm current]

While modX is better with s1

For s2, both are kinda the same

ModY is instant s2 on helidrop

ModX mean more s2 spam

[turbid badge]

instant s2

[storm current]

I prob wait for modX

S3 stinky

[turbid badge]

yeah weedy hits air

[storm current]

wait i thought this was well known already

[turbid badge]

idk ppl forget

[storm current]

Since weedy was a fairly popular pick for IS1 back then

[latent anvil]

i mean i knew weedy hit air, but she dont shift air right?

[turbid badge]

doesnt look like it shifts

Yeaa

[storm current]

So they know cuz they have to cope aie

Ye

[turbid badge]

ima try with levitate now

[latent anvil]

oh wait i thought weedy only hit air off of splash on s3

she actually just hits them huh

[storm current]

I think thats someone else

[proud drift]

From what I’m understanding with my tests

Levitating makes enemies shift immune

Levitate into feater s2, no effect

Feater s2 into levitate enemy gets stopped mid-flight

[storm current]

Isnt it just

If air unit

They are shift immuned

Levitate turn them into air units

[turbid badge]

yeah basically basically

[proud drift]

Ya

[storm current]

Which doesnt make sense

Levitate should make them more vulnerable to shift

[proud drift]

I actually wonder

[storm current]

Because no friction

[proud drift]

Does levitate

Make marksmen

Prioritize that target

Cuz air unit

[storm current]

Yes

[proud drift]

[turbid badge]

but obviously yeah

[glass monolith]

You just push them in direction of earth rotation making them stand still relative to your grounded ass

[proud drift]

So levitate is just very beneficial for units with anti-air gimmicks

Such as cutter

[glass monolith]

and her anti-air is?

[turbid badge]

s1

or was it s2

its like double dps on air

[glass monolith]

Can hit air is not anti-air gimmick

[proud drift]

No it literally does more dmg

A lot more

[glass monolith]

Wait

5400% ATK scale

THE FUCK?

[latent anvil]

irene like that too no?

[turbid badge]

no?

[cyan gorge]

It’s single hit

[storm current]

[proud drift]

Also

[glass monolith]

But what if enemy is 6 chapter 12 bosses

[latent anvil]

oh she ignore def if they flying

[turbid badge]

yea

[proud drift]

Don’t marksmen have 10% more dmg to air on module

[latent anvil]

yea close enough

[turbid badge]

ye

[proud drift]

So exu s3 brr brr?

[turbid badge]

sure

[storm current]

Eh

[proud drift]

Unsure how the 10% modifier works

[glass monolith]

Marksmen with "more attack speed against ground" module be like -

[storm current]

Currently theres only 3 that can reliably levitate

[proud drift]

I mean

[storm current]

Qani for 7s straight

[proud drift]

Holy kayak S2

[storm current]

Irene 4s

[proud drift]

Is very nice

But you can be very unlucky with it

[turbid badge]

Kayak sure if its st and u give her attack speed +

[storm current]

Ho'oldeyak is short levitate but rapid, meaning its more for stun lock

[proud drift]

Amiya S2 with 20% levitate chance

Is kinda nice

If isolated

[storm current]

Eh

You prob want to use her s3

[glass monolith]

Me who has Indigo fail her goddamn root during S2 with stored attacks: Pathetic

[storm current]

Since it has good cycle and good scaling seem like

[proud drift]

I mean usually yeah s3 is the better skill

But S2 can have its uses

[turbid badge]

Oh

doesnt meteor have a talent

that boosts her dos

dps against flying aswell i think

[storm current]

Yes

[turbid badge]

idk cant check

[storm current]

Its atk scale btw

Not dmg scale

[turbid badge]

oh

[proud drift]

So pre-modifiers?

Like

Not final part of calculation

[turbid badge]

what happens if u stun enemy when levitating

[gentle finch]

first pot6 6* soon

anyways what's you guys favourite start for is2

[storm current]

Enemies are still stun

And if you have shit like

[gentle finch]

most reliable

[storm current]

Relic from IS2 that deal art DOT if stun/freeze/bind

They dont take dmg while leviate

[latent anvil]

most easy braindead start is thorns e2 no?

[storm current]

But will take dmg if stun while levitate

Personally

[gentle finch]

I hate thorns windup

[storm current]

Depend on the starting squad

[gentle finch]

i like to get him on floor 4

[proud drift]

I always start chetto or poze

[gentle finch]

if I'm doing phantom

[storm current]

If you dont go for instant e2 guard

He is shit

Get gavialt

[gentle finch]

pozy I've been doing a lot but it's getting boring

so i need new ideas

[proud drift]

Not play is2

[latent anvil]

'most reliable' 'boring' pick one

[gentle finch]

i have to

[gentle finch]

most reliable that isn't pozy or thorns or gavia

l

[latent anvil]

chalt

[proud drift]

I liked mudmud starts

When I started

[storm current]

Try mizuki

[proud drift]

Mudmud is very consistent

[gentle finch]

oh shit

mizuki

[storm current]

Pretty ok for ending 4

[gentle finch]

yeah I'll try him

[proud drift]

And very fun if you get relics

[turbid badge]

dorothy start

[glass monolith]

box2 losing IS3 first map with Mizuki start on d0

[storm current]

L

[gentle finch]

skill issue

Dorothy or mizuki start

oh right, when you lose all ingots at very beginning for a random collectible, is the collectible usually of higher rarity

if anyone knows

[turbid badge]

i also like Kal start

But i personally dont use it as much

Since red mist stages do destroy kal

if shes ur only source of healing

[storm current]

Its random from common to uncommon afaik

[proud drift]

Never take that

[gentle finch]

thanks

[storm current]

I think its less efficient compare to spending the ingot in shop instead

[turbid badge]

that ones not worth yea

[proud drift]

I always take money and go spend 50 ingots in shop lmao

[gentle finch]

thankfully i have an m9 mizuki borrow

[glass monolith]

I have bunch of unrelated shit leveled so i will suffer