strategy

[noble pewter]

I did it cm with wedge btw a liskarn n saria

[smoky crescent]

He needs normal first ig

[noble pewter]

They both do not die

[proud drift]

Oh

[noble pewter]

But then again I supported them with a skalter oh fk so maybe that's 200 extra def

[proud drift]

Liskarm stronger than I thought ig

[soft crystal]

E2 liskarm is tanky enough to take it

[proud drift]

I had mlynar schwinging at BK sandwiched between blemi saria and also blemi mudrock

But saria only lived cm cuz of skalter

Otherwise would be dead

[frail wagon]

can mlynar tank BK

[soft crystal]

Ye

[frail wagon]

maximizing the damages

[smoky crescent]

Wait... I kinda forgot bk res and Def. How is his stat again?

[proud drift]

I think him not tanking is better

[soft crystal]

Man got some defender level if defenses

[proud drift]

Cuz he’s gonna get stunned

[elder flume]

1320 def 40 res

25% dr 50% dr

[soft crystal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQdgv_a9d9o

xd

[scarlet ledge]

@proud drift i didnt get rockrock on alt...

got horn doe but wont use her

i use ahslock tehre

[formal moss]

Hmmm can any rangedknights do this stage?

[proud drift]

[formal moss]

Do i need to do some cheating with yato to do it?

Kinda sadge

😔

[proud drift]

Should’ve e2’d every medic there

It unlocks deploying medics on ground

[lethal dragon]

Shifters Knights

[formal moss]

OH FUCK

I KNOW A WAY

[proud drift]

Lordknights lol

[formal moss]

[proud drift]

Well unless you take cantabile and cope it’s a ranged knight

But range tile only doesn’t seem possible

[formal moss]

Man Ok i don't think this can work

Welp Ig Imma just use "reed"

[elder flume]

you can try animationknights

[lethal dragon]

Try scene only clear

[soft crystal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjJ9ZCCrhbM

[smoky crescent]

but he is using both kal and mlynar

[lethal dragon]

2 6*

[soft crystal]

kal is easily replaceable in the clear tbh

[foggy grove]

verily

they are just using her to lanehold

[scarlet ledge]

u can use

any

lul

bro

cant even adjust

this is brainrot looks like?

[scarlet ledge]

u should show 1 6★ instead

[soft crystal]

2 lazy to search now

[glass monolith]

Show Roberta + Gravel

[scarlet ledge]

hi mnlinusmkimmiinus

[soft crystal]

roberta

too cute

[glass monolith]

YES, THEY RETURNED T POSE

[scarlet ledge]

https://youtu.be/bV9RXEL7RCk

[soft crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/roberta-arknights-t-pose-gif-23038709

[scarlet ledge]

here 1 6★ kal

T Pose

here even a dumb chalter https://youtu.be/0ryL9XY1ndo

[scarlet ledge]

[pearl musk]

Can nl s2 be cleared with mudrock and no other dps?

[scarlet ledge]

hmm

[glass monolith]

(Inhales bag of copium)

[pearl musk]

Ic

[proud drift]

What was s2

[glass monolith]

Gachi Tola fun club kills her

S2 is Tola

[proud drift]

Oh that

[glass monolith]

i tried. Tola's fucking killed her

[proud drift]

Ya no mudrock ain’t soloing it

She barely 1v1s a nightzmora

[glass monolith]

Also i was using Manticore S1 to give her light and not leak conga lane of bugs

[proud drift]

I had potato farmer murder the conga

[glass monolith]

Yes but potato is state of my phone no solo DPS mudmud

[proud drift]

Certainly not

[gleaming lodge]

With S3 she crushes them

[proud drift]

but can she solo tola

[glass monolith]

half of the S-2 will leak while you wait for Tola with S3

stupid trash mobs spam

[lethal dragon]

Easily

Mudrock S3 + penance duo
【我对泥岩与斥罪的全部理解——泥岩斥罪双人NL-S-2-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/WBS2XcX

[proud drift]

ok but

he wanted

mudrock solo

no other dps

that means no penance either

[glass monolith]

Also Penance doesn't exist

[elder flume]

gravel phantom s1

bodyblock spam

[lethal dragon]

You gotta be stall specialist to do that

S3 can shred them and has fairly short cooldown

[gleaming lodge]

With Liskarm and a couple of other blockers something could happen

I'll try something tonight but that sounds like a massive cope

[sharp wadi]

Can u try bliz instead lizk

[gleaming lodge]

Why would I bring Blitz to help Mudrock S3 ?
Ok the stun is cool but how is that going to make the cycle better ?

[glass monolith]

i tried liskarm + S2 Mud but fucked up without 4000 years of defender knights experience

[gleaming lodge]

Well it's not very complicated

You need Liskarm to tank some fast attacking mobs

Like them small crabs

[glass monolith]

crabs slower than first mini Tola

[gleaming lodge]

Ideally you also borrow an E1 1 Lisk, which most players certainly don't have

[gleaming lodge]

That is called block management sir, the main mechanics of defenderknigths

[glass monolith]

my S2M1 E2 60 Mud don't spin hard enough to kill sleeper knight and tolas even with SP fueling

oh right, something something INCREASED HP

[gleaming lodge]

Oh well, you have to try NM first

Or is it the S condition ?
I can't remember

[glass monolith]

let me arknight it

[gleaming lodge]

Anyway, S3 is most certainly better

Facing back of course

Also there doesn't seem to be a good Aak spot

That's sad

[glass monolith]

50% HP 20% ATK on Tolas

[gleaming lodge]

Hum...
For a total of ?

If she can't kill them in one S3 that would be a problem

[glass monolith]

I am not rich enough to have S3M3 mudmud and i won't even other trying with less against so hardcore enemy spam than trash manage to slip between s2 spins

[gleaming lodge]

Borrow?

Also why do you not have S3M3?
It's an amazing skill

[glass monolith]

Because i have hard time focusing on one thing so i have 10 half finished ones, literally

Thorn M2, Kroos mod 2, e1 max firewatch for half year

[vital arrow]

That's very inefficient

[sonic willow]

finally finished all stages well that took a while

[proud drift]

but is it worth using mudmud as a s3 dps when you could just plop down her with s2 in some lane and forget about it

well, in my case I guess I just have other options

who can do the s3 job

I haven't really had a case where I'd want to use mud s3 outside of ch10/cc10 lol

[glass monolith]

It all begun long ago when someone said "hey can i solo dps mudrock S-2" like hour ago

[glass monolith]

I need better friends

[storm current]

wtf

who set sl7 on support

[proud drift]

your friends are certainly better than mine

[glass monolith]

Well I did CC8 with e2 80 sl6 Skalter.... With 32 trust

[proud drift]

so you could afford

e2 80

but not sl7?

[glass monolith]

Due lack of PvP in this game people use friend supports instead

[gleaming lodge]

It's high skill floor vs high skill ceiling
Mudrock S2 will crush any easy stage, but if you actually do difficult stuff S3 is a must

[gleaming lodge]

You need to purge your friends list mate

[proud drift]

define difficult stuff

are we talking specifically high risk cc stuff

and high difficulty IS

[glass monolith]

3 red sleeper and 2 Tolas at same time in S-2

I don't even include all archers adn assassins who will leak while mudrock blocks 3 out of 5 of those

[gleaming lodge]

idk mate
It's just Mudrock S3 has great burst damage
You're sleeping on S2 because "ahah low effort afk clear" but it won't get you very far

Tell me Exu S1 is better than S3 while you are at it

[proud drift]

well no it's just

[gleaming lodge]

I'm tired of these debates
"Is Thorns S3 better than Mlynar S3 ?" is essentially what you're saying

Burst vs constant dmg

It's always this damn question

[proud drift]

I won't deny that mud s3 is good, I know it's good as i have used it a few times

but it's just generally no reason for ppl to rush it or level it

as you don't need it for general content

which is what 90% of the playerbase does

if not more

hell a vast majority of AK players haven't even gone past chapter9

also idk how can people even debate thorns s3 vs mlynar s3

they're two completely different skills

I'd understand if ppl debated sa s3 vs mlynar s3

[opal kiln]

doesn't mean mylnar s3 isn't 500 times better

[glass monolith]

Kroos alter is still better waifu than Exu

[proud drift]

I mean ya

but it's a more fair comparsion

as SA can be used more as a helidrop

while mlynar needs to be pre-dropped

and time to charge

since it becomes a comparsion of when to use which skill instead of two completely different skills being compared

[vital arrow]

SA costs 20DP and need 15s to charge for helidrop

Mlynar costs 11DP and needs 22s to helidrop

Mlynar actually has his skill up faster

[crystal meteor]

the biggest thing SA has now is invis reveal 😔

[vital arrow]

Unless you really need to block, invis reveal, or the extra range, SA and mlynar practically fill the same role

Mlynar arguably better because he doesn't have 90 SP cost

[proud drift]

Mlynar also has passive that he needs to charge, no?

[gleaming lodge]

And ?
The majority of people are stupid
Will you listen to them ?
This is literally #strategy I will allow myself to be an elitist regarding skill level of old players

[vital arrow]

Yeah but at half charge he already deals more than SA

[crystal meteor]

just bring what you need in a stage, mfw i dont need silence in 1-7 😱

[storm current]

mlynar cost 12

your mlynar is pot2

[vital arrow]

Oh 12

Oh right mine is P2

[gleaming lodge]

The point still stands

[vital arrow]

1s faster than SA

[scarlet ledge]

hmm

among us

[tidal sedge]

do the guerillas still stay after chap 7 or do they just keep getting stronger?

[vital arrow]

Wdym?

[proud drift]

Guerillas are the heralds or?

Also ch8 iirc is “peak enemy strength”

Cause ch9 enemies won’t be as strong

And, well, base stats and whatnot ig being more permanent?

At least it felt like 9 and 10 were easier

[tidal sedge]

guerillas are basically the peons but like 8x stronger

and herald buffabpe

[vital arrow]

Oh the ch7 mobs

[proud drift]

Maybe it’s the herald buff making them so strong

[vital arrow]

Yeah its the herald buff

[proud drift]

Cuz the heralded kevins are extremely fucking strong

[tidal sedge]

what is the particular herald buffa anyway?

Adds def and atk?

[proud drift]

Each unit individual buffs

[vital arrow]

100def and 10% atk iirc?

[proud drift]

Def and atk per herald, but each mob in ch7 has its own extra

Like kevins gain a lot more atk

[glass monolith]

Ambriel target practice

[proud drift]

archers multishot

[tidal sedge]

P E R H E R A LD?

[vital arrow]

Yep

[proud drift]

Yes

Per herald

[tidal sedge]

god DAMN

[glass monolith]

Def and attack per herald, special abilities like multishot activated regardless of number of buffs once

[proud drift]

Might wanna start focusing them

[tidal sedge]

so the enemies scale up a bit more in chap 8 and then stay like that

[proud drift]

well

[vital arrow]

Depends

[proud drift]

Ch9 and 10 enemies

Are completely different

[tidal sedge]

the main problem of 7 16 is just patriot right?

[vital arrow]

Most ch9 have 70res by default

[glass monolith]

Chapter 9 sorta resets scaling because you go there from chapter 4, but future chapter go nuts

[vital arrow]

Because they hate arts

[tidal sedge]

I dont think I can even kil patriot normally considering how stupid he is

[proud drift]

Ch9 is “fuck arts”, ch10 is “fuck you if you have no true damage”

Nah patriot is easy nowadays

Especially with what access we have to

[vital arrow]

Borrow a kaltsit, let monster laugh at his face

[tidal sedge]

just horse uncle him?

oh yeah kal

[glass monolith]

Chapter 11 - Fuck you if you don't have range supremacy

[vital arrow]

Or just use uncle

Maxed uncle leaves him with 1 hit worth of HP

[tidal sedge]

can monster solo patriot?

[vital arrow]

Yeah

[tidal sedge]

damn

[opal kiln]

just don't let him block

[vital arrow]

Monster laughs at the face of def by the power of true damage

[tidal sedge]

I should rlly pull for kal after the limited hell ends

[proud drift]

So never

[vital arrow]

But yeah don't block with monster

[tidal sedge]

why?

[vital arrow]

Patriot also oneshots monster

[tidal sedge]

so uh

What do I do

[vital arrow]

Luckily patriot sits for like 30s like 5 times in his stage

[tidal sedge]

does patriot just stand still for a while?

[glass monolith]

Patriot phase 1 one shots fucking everything

[tidal sedge]

oh ok

[vital arrow]

Literally a sitting duck for you to hit

[elder flume]

cement tanking patriot

[tidal sedge]

Is the rest of the stage easy to deal with once patriot collapses?

[vital arrow]

Patriot shaving 4 stacks of def per attack

[vital arrow]

Mountain kinda solos the mobs with ansel

[tidal sedge]

Well easier

I would say

[elder flume]

i personally find claw dudes harder to deal with than patriot

[tidal sedge]

don't have mountain, only silverdaddy and goat

Volcano goat

[scarlet ledge]

chp12

[vital arrow]

Yeah the claws hurt

[elder flume]

tho ig they lose stacks after patty dies

[tidal sedge]

sarkaz claw guys?

[vital arrow]

Well anyways the rest of the stage is not that hard

[tidal sedge]

So it's just patriot that the real issue?

[vital arrow]

It's just statchecks

Yeag

[tidal sedge]

oh aight

[vital arrow]

Theres also an exploit that basically stops the stage at half point and you can beat patriot during that tine

[tidal sedge]

just check my team out cuz I could get sweeped here

[vital arrow]

So it's not that hard

[proud drift]

There is a hard thing about patriot

If you’re unprepared

The funny mortar boy

Though the rest of the stage is so easy mudrock solos it

It’s only patriot that’s a threat

[tidal sedge]

This squad is a placeholder from last stage

[vital arrow]

Yeah just borrow uncle or the old hag

[tidal sedge]

can this squad deal with it? project might stay to bait mortars

[proud drift]

Also keep in mind in p2 patriot yells Y E E T and furthest range tile op from him unexists

[vital arrow]

Yeah bring a ranged bait

[tidal sedge]

project ranged bait?

[vital arrow]

Ranged tile bait, like durin/12f/rangers/jessica

[tidal sedge]

Oh dodgers

I do not like them

[proud drift]

Well, patriot doesn’t like ranged tiles either

[vital arrow]

Have fun with patriot yeeting your ops one by one then

[tidal sedge]

I'll take em

does he throw them like fucking bonethrower speeds?

[vital arrow]

Just one hit

[proud drift]

No

15s cd iirc

[vital arrow]

But it yeets then

[proud drift]

Or more even maybe

[vital arrow]

Its like 25s

[tidal sedge]

can only very few ops handle t

[proud drift]

It does like

3000 damage?

[vital arrow]

Yeah

[tidal sedge]

ok like 1 op survives that and it's a hard maybe

[proud drift]

Or if you have smth like archetto

Who can block it

Though doesn’t chalter survive it

[vital arrow]

Did I also forget to mention patriot on phase 2 can hit ranged ops with his normal attacks?

[proud drift]

Cuz of hp

[tidal sedge]

should I pull mudrock once she comes at a better time than right before texalter hype?

[proud drift]

Mmmm

How many pulls you have

[vital arrow]

Yea texalt is better

[tidal sedge]

Idk

[proud drift]

I’d recommend pulling this banner just to get one of the 3 (guaranteed anyways)

Cause all 3 are good

But at the same time

[vital arrow]

*gets saileach

[proud drift]

It took me 60 pulls so I’m sad

Saileach still good af

[tidal sedge]

one 10 pulls?

[vital arrow]

Shes still good

But like

Also not good at the same time

[proud drift]

Definitely not horny or mudmud

[tidal sedge]

I don't think I'm gonna get a 6 star

[proud drift]

It’s mostly just

[tidal sedge]

imma just seemwhat shop has

[proud drift]

Afaik this banner guarantees on-banner op

[vital arrow]

Just save for texalt

[proud drift]

But can save ig

[vital arrow]

Maybe mud will spook on texalt banner

[tidal sedge]

This was a month hellss worth of grinding op and orundum

Can this work?

[vital arrow]

Yeah just save

[tidal sedge]

Aight k

[vital arrow]

That's like, 40 pulls

[tidal sedge]

It literally is 40 pulls

[sonic willow]

gotta inhale immense amount of

[tidal sedge]

Atleast I got this amount in like what, 2weels?

[quiet raft]

Save

Risking getting saileach

[tidal sedge]

yeah ik

[quiet raft]

😾

[tidal sedge]

I'm jus gonna wait for a bit

Too many ops I can't really use

[quiet raft]

That too

[sonic willow]

40 pulls in 2 weeks is not sustainable btw, you will run out of stages to clear and then, your gain will become 25 pulls/mo

[tidal sedge]

texalter is nice and I'll probably get some decent ops

[tidal sedge]

Yeah ik

I'm very aware I'm gonna hit a wall in a bit

[proud drift]

I also don’t think spending op on pulls is a good idea

Cause op is used for skins as well

[vital arrow]

At least both texalt and penance are good

[quiet raft]

If u don't want skins

Then it's not rly a problem

[proud drift]

And op is just overall

[sonic willow]

previlege of people with old accounts

[proud drift]

A lot more rare

[tidal sedge]

don't want skins rn

[proud drift]

Blemishine skin

If you want it

Buy it now

Cuz it’s rare

[tidal sedge]

not at that stage, though I will buy an sa skin once it comes around

[proud drift]

Same with others in that collection iirc

[elder flume]

skins are only worth if it changes an operators attack pattern

[foggy grove]

Op for pulls is fine

[tidal sedge]

sa looks terrible base

[proud drift]

the skin with cat in bag

comes around often

iirc

[foggy grove]

Ye sa base skin is bleh

[quiet raft]

When the Rhodes fashion thing comes around

U can get it

[vital arrow]

I usually don't buy skins if I don't have the op

Can't use it anyways

[tidal sedge]

which skin is it?

[vital arrow]

[proud drift]

I have 250 op

[tidal sedge]

whake

[quiet raft]

The winter one

[proud drift]

no not whale

[tidal sedge]

Goddamn whale

[proud drift]

I still have like

[vital arrow]

Summer one better

[proud drift]

500+ op unclaimed

from sidestories

[vital arrow]

[tidal sedge]

bro does not spend op

[quiet raft]

Summer is better I agree

[tidal sedge]

I prefer it too

[proud drift]

ya I only bought skins

[quiet raft]

But it prolly will take a while

[tidal sedge]

I'll wait for that one

it's the only skim I super want

[proud drift]

some skins

are very rare due to coming to store rarely

like the ones rn

shamare blemi and sm1 else

[foggy grove]

You'll need to wait for like a year then

[proud drift]

the blemi skin is so good

[tidal sedge]

I wanna spend my op on ops I actually have

[foggy grove]

Sa summer skin

[proud drift]

you will eventually have all ops anyways

except limiteds

[tidal sedge]

No I womt

[proud drift]

a big amount of early days playeres have all ops lol

[vital arrow]

Well if they play long enough

[quiet raft]

After years of playing

[tidal sedge]

after years

s3m3 sa stats and mat requirements?

[quiet raft]

Thinking too much in advance often backfires cuz u won't end up sticking long enough 😆

[tidal sedge]

yeah I just wanna get cool mafia woman

[quiet raft]

U can check it on gamepress

[tidal sedge]

Thanks

link or just search it?

[proud drift]

huh which one is that

oh sexas?

[tidal sedge]

ye

[proud drift]

btw keep in mind

limited banners

also give free pulls

and a free 10pull

[tidal sedge]

Yeah ik that

[quiet raft]

Just Silverash arknights on search bar and it should show u gamepress as one of first results

[tidal sedge]

Oh ok

[proud drift]

unless u use like bing or smth

[quiet raft]

[tidal sedge]

that is a lot of kohl

A hell of a lot of kohl

[quiet raft]

It wouldn't be masteries if it didn't empty your resources

[tidal sedge]

Fair

To be fair masteries can turn a skill from good to town obliterator

[quiet raft]

Some indeed are night and day comparisons

[tidal sedge]

like sa helidrop spam?

wait isn't he outclassed by !lynar rn

[vital arrow]

Mostly

Except on some cases

[tidal sedge]

Damn

helidrop speed he definitely outclasses however

[quiet raft]

It helps helidrop cuz often masteries decrease sp cost and increase initial dp I don't remember about sa so can't tell u the difference

[tidal sedge]

how unfortunate that 2 of my best ops are h e l I drops

[quiet raft]

Hmmm not really but SA is used now mostly for his talents

Since they're pretty good

[tidal sedge]

Oh yeah rd time is important

[vital arrow]

Mlynar is actually faster by 1s if you count DP cost

[tidal sedge]

well helidrops aren't really used in gen content right?

[proud drift]

they're useful

[quiet raft]

His invis reveal with his S3 range is pretty relevant from time to time too

Like on this event

[tidal sedge]

Well fuck my ass, my favorite schring schring has been outclassed

[somber falcon]

eyja's s2 is also good tho
Just use that if you don't need any arts burst

[tidal sedge]

Oh ye

[vital arrow]

But well, mlynar can't block so be careful

[tidal sedge]

I just wanna ask, are any of j other 6 stars usble and should be built? List is Angelina, Maggie and ifrit

[quiet raft]

Ifrit

[somber falcon]

Big yes on ange and ifrit

[tidal sedge]

Flametail is a good option if I don't have flagpipe right?

[quiet raft]

Ignore the rest unless u wanna do funny strats with mag

[somber falcon]

Maggie is a bit lower

[tidal sedge]

so just ignore Maggie?

[somber falcon]

Flagpipe is functionally irrelevant outside cc's dp risk
Maybe if you gonna do boss spawnkill but that's not really an everyday occurrence either

[tidal sedge]

oh

so flametail is a yes?

[vital arrow]

Flametail is good in a sense that she's a vg that can throw punches and has high uptime

[somber falcon]

Just think of her as a luxury op, nice to have but not really necessary

[quiet raft]

I mean unless u really don't have anyone else to raise outside of those 3 ange raising priority is on the lower side

[tidal sedge]

S o flametails just a vg who can throw serious hands with peons?

[vital arrow]

Serious hands is bagpipe
Flamtail just hands

[tidal sedge]

ohye

[shell arch]

Hey guys

I have a question

[tidal sedge]

hi

[shell arch]

Asking for a friend

(i am the friend)

[tidal sedge]

Understandable

[shell arch]

If e2 chen start on IS works

What about e2 irene start

[tidal sedge]

Ok somebody smart tell him idk what this is

[elder flume]

Flame can be serious in a way

[quiet raft]

Wth

[tidal sedge]

FLAME IS FUCKING GOJO

what is her dodge rate anyway? Ik its a very big number

Well decent number not big

[gleaming lodge]

Does it work ?

[shell arch]

It works for me

Still mod2 though

Normal mode btw

Dalaon'tmigo

[storm current]

Irene is kinda eh

S2 is ???

At least chen s2 can hit multiple

[proud drift]

what if

[storm current]

Unless you get the instant e2

[proud drift]

was about to say that

cuz he did say

"e2 chen start"

[tidal sedge]

flametail purpose is to dodge like 20 hits right?

[storm current]

Well irene has high dph and block 2

So at least its ok

[glass monolith]

Flametail purpose is fucking die to oneshot from failed dodge when it matters

[sweet marlin]

tequila useful

[tidal sedge]

I somehow got flametail to dodge hateful like 4 times before s2 ran out

[vernal lion]

man I wish there's 3 NL-S-4 tasks

[tidal sedge]

Tequila is a worse mlynar, considering how good mlynar is

[vestal robin]

Any good 6s op I should upgrade 1st?

[storm current]

irene gnosis for SSS

[sweet marlin]

is the video i posted bugged or thats just me?

[tidal sedge]

lee is kinda funny

[quiet raft]

It works for me

[tidal sedge]

is flamebringer good as a melantha replacement?

[quiet raft]

He sucks

[tidal sedge]

oh

cutter time

[quiet raft]

Cutter is good yes

[tidal sedge]

E2 cutter is not a bad choice right? (Complete lack of consistent guards)

[proud drift]

ew

[storm current]

inb4

e2 them for base

[quiet raft]

Yeah, I e2'd her and she did pretty well even more so in is early pick she is amazing

[glass monolith]

Full stacked Astgenne Ambriel for SSS

[tidal sedge]

so she's my best consistent high dps guard option?

[somber falcon]

She deals ~9k dmg at modless e2 70 s1m3, wdyt?

[proud drift]

is there a way

to make

the dailies

[tidal sedge]

What, the FUCK

[proud drift]

not all be S stages

cause I don't want to re-do any of the S stages

[quiet raft]

Tbh I don't know your whole roster but u can't go wrong with her

[proud drift]

literally fucking all of these are S stages

[elder flume]

they dont show s stages until u unlocked them

shouldve not progressed

[tidal sedge]

sa lapp and melantha are my main guards

[somber falcon]

Matoi > mel

[tidal sedge]

no matoi

[somber falcon]

Fair enough ig

Lapp is also good choice for e2 tho

[tidal sedge]

I wanna see funny numbers go higher than 1k

I wanna see those funny numbers happen every ,3 microseconds considering how fcking fast cutter sp is

[somber falcon]

Do note that the 9k can be spread around if there's >1 target in range

[tidal sedge]

cuter s1 is the best?

And that 9k is recovered every like what, 10 seconds?

[noble pewter]

Just don't pick armorless

[proud drift]

no but

armorless before I reached ex/s

had N stages

I need only one armorless too

[noble pewter]

I see, well after unlock everything it seems to me armorless is all s stage

[proud drift]

FINALLY I GOT ONE

clear nl-1

[tidal sedge]

GOOOFY QUEST

[storm current]

i gave up on S stages

and EX

will do later when archive

too lazy

[tidal sedge]

Is cutter s1 best skill for her?

[somber falcon]

Basically
S2 has higher total dmg ceiling, but more spread out since it will only hit each enemy once

[gentle finch]

but!

it's faster

just make an auto-deploy

[somber falcon]

Also as an extra it's an anti-air purposed skill with offensive recovery.... on a melee op with no ranged attack

[proud drift]

I ain't gonna waste +6 prestige and sanity

when I'm 9/10

for last

[tidal sedge]

So cutter is just a pseudo lord guard with eyja range and dreadnought damage, what the fuck

[latent monolith]

It's not eyja range though

But she is quite good

[tidal sedge]

S2 range is eyja range

[latent monolith]

Eyja gets a full tile more on each side

[tidal sedge]

S1 is lord guard range

o

[latent monolith]

S1 is lord range yeah

But this is eyja range,

[tidal sedge]

but s1 is better overall right?

[latent monolith]

S1 usually better yeah but I use S2 often too

[somber falcon]

Yeah

[sinful geyser]

highmore (should) come soon, you can consider her as well. less bursty than cutter, but self-sustain and also true aoe

5* cost tho

[tidal sedge]

ouch

I'll stick with my cutte for now

[vital arrow]

Highmore is kinda ass outside of IS3 though

[tidal sedge]

really desperately need a more consistent daamager

[vital arrow]

Pluma is better if you get her

[sinful geyser]

yeah, can agree with that

[latent monolith]

Cutter does a lot of damage for being 4 star

[tidal sedge]

She's a 4 star with mid tier 6 star damage

[sinful geyser]

but I think she will work just fine if you don't have any cornerstone

[tidal sedge]

Sa is stupid bursty, but I love cutters consistenc

[vernal lion]

tbh that hole is so silly

[elder flume]

2 out of 32 didnt get holed hm

[vernal lion]

now that is "to kill two birds with one stone"

[glass monolith]

Meanwhile my quests: NL-1/2/3/4

[vernal lion]

I'm waiting for near end to do all long term goals tho

[glass monolith]

Don't forget there is 15 "tasks" bitcoins cap

I wish 3 task bitcoins missions were giving 3 refreshes instead 1

[proud drift]

wtf why didn't you do them

wait

how are they not claimable

[storm current]

prob cuz already did it on initial run

[proud drift]

oh I guess you don't need to do EX to unlock S

[vernal lion]

just wait

[glass monolith]

He waits for EX-1 daily mission to do it

Bastard is thinking ahead of his time

[vernal lion]

always has been

[glass monolith]

But like srly, GG, you outsmarted my

[tidal sedge]

I love this

I love when shaw can't yeet the defender off

[glass monolith]

I love when i walk away and 30 minutes later he still splitbox the hole

[tidal sedge]

I love it too

[gentle finch]

🔥

[elder flume]

s1m3 shaw doesnt have that problem

[vital arrow]

Me with s1m3 gladiia

[tidal sedge]

You, m3 shqaw?

[vernal lion]

the rate is 90%, too good lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just deploy ur melantha there

[tidal sedge]

GODDAMN

[elder flume]

i max force all my shifters

its all for the sake of shifting

[vernal lion]

you wish

too bad it didn't increase force

[elder flume]

[novel plover]

just force it to be dead

[vital arrow]

Now get the -1 weight relic and +2 force book

[scarlet fulcrum]

Speedruner fellas

Bet they also have balze s3m3

Oh horn s2m3

[vernal lion]

blaze fells off

timing her s3 is pain lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Skill issue

[tidal sedge]

shifting shitting shifters

[vernal lion]

talk about anni3 speedrun

[tidal sedge]

Get all the shifters

[vernal lion]

the other class also gets shifter too

example, Wild Mane s2

[shell arch]

Me finding out rainchan and rainchan's gif circa 2021

[sharp scroll]

How do I deal with the candle knights in nl s 3 other than using Kafka, and red (also phantom, but a bit rng)?

[shell arch]

Nightingale s3 and her cages

[vital arrow]

^

[sharp scroll]

Will it still work in cm?

[shell arch]

Vivanna deals aoe arts dmg which is completely mitigated by ng (Res buff. Arts damage dodge. Cages taunting explosion)

[latent monolith]

What gif?

[shell arch]

Holy shit you're right, I don't have rainchan gif

[vernal lion]

I deploy Gladiia mod3 then Specter and call it a day

[gleaming lodge]

Do you have the shared folder?

Also check the mechanics sheet for some of Meow's cursed explanation of Rainchan's cursed gifs

[vital arrow]

It's like stumbling upon a madman's research file

[gleaming lodge]

True
Very interesting though

I don't think it will ever be used in a clear sadly

Appart from the CC#5 w1 fenced tile strat I guess ?

[elder flume]

wonder how much backlash there would be if i said mint is a pusher

[glass monolith]

Push B

[gleaming lodge]

Mint is a pusher
Just a reverse pusher

[worthy ermine]

is there a way i can one shot patriot? 7-18

[gleaming lodge]

One shot ?

You can certainly kill him quickly with a borrowed Ifrit S3

Also use Surtr S3 please

[worthy ermine]

wtf my mlynar is doing 161 damage

huh

[foggy grove]

mlynar one cycle with 1-2 mines

[worthy ermine]

i use her s3 for stages like this but usually s2

i like s2

[gleaming lodge]

[worthy ermine]

ok can someone explain why im doing no damage

[gleaming lodge]

Anyway, Patriot phase 1 has 45k HP, 2k DEF and 90 RES
Same HP but half the DEF and RES phase 2

[worthy ermine]

what

how am i supposed to kill him

[finite glade]

surtr mlynar ifrit s3 shud do ok no?

like ifrit middle square pointed right

[gleaming lodge]

You either kill phase 1 with lots of mines
Or use debuff like Shamare S2, Ifrit S3....

[soft crystal]

Mlynar by himself is enough lol

[foggy grove]

does your mlynar has mastery?

[worthy ermine]

m1 surtr m1 mlynar

[finite glade]

then surtr mlynar juz like up and wait for him to be st the tip of ifrit range

[worthy ermine]

the rest is m0

[gleaming lodge]

Having only 4 E2s, they shouldn't have M3s yet

[finite glade]

yea well obv but its for easier clear uk sometimes dun wanna stress

[foggy grove]

this is without mine

[soft crystal]

Mlynar barely one cycles Patriot without mines even

[foggy grove]

with 1-2 mines and mybe add surt if not enough

[finite glade]

bro rly played the stages with mines without mines

[gleaming lodge]

Please
They clearly don't have 90 P6 M3 ops

[soft crystal]

If you have m1 i thinj its enough with mines

[finite glade]

fr

[soft crystal]

Basically point is

Mlynar so cracked

[foggy grove]

point is use mine

[worthy ermine]

... mlynar is doing 161 damage

[foggy grove]

more if not enough

[gleaming lodge]

No
Their Mlynar is lvl 15

[foggy grove]

[soft crystal]

Are you not fully charging his trair

Trait

[worthy ermine]

its his first skill activation

[gleaming lodge]

Bruh what is up with #strategy lately
"Haha just Mlynar"....

[soft crystal]

Yeah just wait a bit

His first skill activation is only 25 seconds of his trait

[worthy ermine]

anyway if i borrow ifrit im not gonna have any defense against the other enemies

[soft crystal]

Wait for 15 seconds more

[worthy ermine]

i dont think saga and e1 blaze can defend against those enemies

[soft crystal]

Id take something like mudrock imo

[gleaming lodge]

imo you should defend with Mlynar and a defender + medic near the bottom blue box
And use arts burst + mines against Patrio

[worthy ermine]

ill try a few times

if i place mountain near the blue box i can forget about the other enemies and focus on patriot

[gleaming lodge]

Yes, Mountain pretty much solos it with good RNG

[vernal lion]

[soft crystal]

Lvl 15 mlynar with m1 still hits 900 per hit though

Just fully charge it up

Mines will add 50% to it, and add in surtr

[worthy ermine]

that was easy

just need a bit more defense

and better bomb placement

[foggy grove]

looks good

you have 2 cracked nuker

[worthy ermine]

ok so

he stuns my ops

why is that

he has a yellow thing around him after he revives and nobody is hitting him

[gleaming lodge]

Stun ?

Patriot has no stun

[signal brook]

He has invincibility after switching phases for 10s

[worthy ermine]

i active mly skill after he revives and he doesnr attack

oh

[foggy grove]

yellow thing is invul

[worthy ermine]

i see

[signal brook]

Cannot be targeted

[worthy ermine]

how do i prevent my medics from dying

[foggy grove]

from spear?

classic 12f bait

[worthy ermine]

he just swings and they die

[vital arrow]

Oh the swing

Yeah good luck

[gleaming lodge]

Frost Nova also had the same invulnerability though

[worthy ermine]

ill just kill him before he kills them

👍

[vital arrow]

Borrow kaltsit, kill him faster(er)

[worthy ermine]

no

im borrowing mountain

[gleaming lodge]

His attacks are now ranged, with around 1 tile radius iirc

[worthy ermine]

i dont wanna bother with the other enemies

[vital arrow]

Uncle not enough?

[worthy ermine]

what's uncle gonna do when skill is on cooldown

[soft crystal]

Borrow mudrock if youre borrowing mountain

[worthy ermine]

why?

[soft crystal]

Mudrock solos it better tbh

[worthy ermine]

ill just stick to mountain

[vital arrow]

Uncle has 42sp, pat needs 60s to revive

[halcyon adder]

How good is ur uncle?

[signal brook]

He will read his newspaper and charge his talent

[vital arrow]

He literally charges faster than the revive

[foggy grove]

his uncle lack mastery

[worthy ermine]

bad

very

level 15 m1

[soft crystal]

Like a lvl90 mudrock can clear the whole map herself except for patriot with no help

[vital arrow]

Borrow kal and do the wave freeze exploit

[soft crystal]

Mountain needs a bit of help in dps iirc to solo

And its not a solo anymore

[worthy ermine]

im borrowing a 90 m3

and i used saga to help a bit

[foggy grove]

i used lv30 mountain on cm long time ago

[worthy ermine]

done

[vital arrow]

Time for CM

And H7-4

[worthy ermine]

im not doing cm untill i get like uh

maybe more than 4 e2s

💀

im surprised i even got this far

[vital arrow]

Mountain solves a lot of things in ch7

[worthy ermine]

the one thing i need the most right now is a good medic

[vital arrow]

Medic? You don't really need one

Perfumer is enough

[worthy ermine]

im gonna replace her

so i dont wanna e2 someone ill end up benching

[foggy grove]

i used perf on birb

[worthy ermine]

i dont think she's better than sussuro

[vital arrow]

It's IS2 investment at worst

Use both

[foggy grove]

long time ago since i have no better medic

[worthy ermine]

yeah but when i get a good medic ill still be using sussuro

[soft crystal]

Wont really need e2 perfumer anyways for more chapters tbh

[vital arrow]

But yeah e1 perf is more than enough

[soft crystal]

I did birb with e1 whisperrain, shining, and perfumer

[vital arrow]

E2 mod is nice though for 4 targets

[vernal lion]

I need more maps like this

[worthy ermine]

look theres a reason why i only have 4 e2

and only m1

[soft crystal]

Chalter map

[foggy grove]

actually nah
idr the last time i used sus

[worthy ermine]

thats because you got 2 good medics

or more

[soft crystal]

Youll get lumen eventually

And uh

[worthy ermine]

who's lumen

[vital arrow]

In 6 months

[soft crystal]

Ptilopsis

[vital arrow]

[soft crystal]

Idk

[foggy grove]

6* welfare from sn

[vital arrow]

CN will get SN rerun tomorrow

[worthy ermine]

6 months?

you want me to

use 4* medics

for 6 months

naur

[vital arrow]

Why not

[elder flume]

ut rr when

[vital arrow]

You don't really need good medics tbh

And the only one that's worth borrowing is NG

[worthy ermine]

thats when you have someone like mountain or mudrock

[foggy grove]

i used 4* medic for a year+

i don't see any problem

[vital arrow]

Sussurro and perfumer is more than enough

[worthy ermine]

not when your guard gets 2 shot by a dog

[vital arrow]

You also have surtr and mlynar

[soft crystal]

Yeah youll live having e1 medics

Your guards will gain more dps

[worthy ermine]

i only get to use them on boss stages

[soft crystal]

And will kill dogs before they get killed

[vital arrow]

Use them on normal stages more

[vernal lion]

sus and perf are best 4* medic tho

[worthy ermine]

yes i definitely needed to use surtr against those sarkaz mobs

very dangerous

[vital arrow]

Mlynar sits there

[soft crystal]

He readin

[worthy ermine]

ill admit mlynar is good for emergency

but not having a good laneholder makes it so the entire stage is an emergency

its not ideal

[vital arrow]

You have blaze and lappland

[foggy grove]

[worthy ermine]

the stage is over by the time blaze gets her s2

[vital arrow]

Rsther than moaning your ops are bad

[soft crystal]

[vital arrow]

Try working with what you have

[soft crystal]

One those players huh

[vernal lion]

your problem is when you use too many high cost op, you will need more vanguard to keep up your setup timing

[worthy ermine]

i dont really run into that isuse

issue

myrtle and saga

[vital arrow]

Blaze literally carries the stage as a vanilla laneholder

[worthy ermine]

more than enough

i dont wanna invest too much in blaze since i was told she's cope

[foggy grove]

[vital arrow]

Thats like me not investing in kroos because she's cope exu

[vernal lion]

I mean, if you can use that in WD-EX-8 CM then alright

[worthy ermine]

kroos is a 3* atleast

you cant compare 3* to 6* cost

[soft crystal]

Shes still good

[vital arrow]

Blaze is literaly stil good

I used blaze until ch8

[vernal lion]

I invest everyone, so everyone is good to me

[foggy grove]

[worthy ermine]

invest in greyy

👍

[vital arrow]

Also you're literally not E2 ing her

[foggy grove]

blaze is pretty cool on chap 10 too

[vital arrow]

The literal breakpoint for centurions

Because 3 block

[worthy ermine]

ill prob e2 blaze next

but no chip catalysts again

so ill have to pick someone else in the meantime

[vital arrow]

Better farm those AP stages

[worthy ermine]

prob myrtle or cuora

myrtle needs those square mats that everyone needs tho which is a pain

[sonic willow]

but cuora will eat the bench too later why raise her

[foggy grove]

i'll e2 blez before those two

[vital arrow]

Cuora is like benchwarmer later

[worthy ermine]

she's my only defender

[vital arrow]

E1 max is enough

[worthy ermine]

alright ig

[halcyon adder]

U don't seem to have the other laneholders,so blaze is probably pretty valuable to u

[vital arrow]

If you need more than that you need more damage

[vernal lion]

that's why I just farm chip when event is off

[worthy ermine]

so do i farm red certs or story or event

i did nl-8 a bunch of times

[vital arrow]

Have you cleared out the shop

[worthy ermine]

yes

[soft crystal]

Id farm nl-8 but i guess you havent done the ex stages yet(?)

[worthy ermine]

the only thing i have left is furniture and wild mane pots 3-6

[vital arrow]

I'd do the ex stages for OPs

Then if you hit a wall

[foggy grove]

skip furni and wild mane pots

[vital arrow]

Char progression

[worthy ermine]

been procrastinating on ex4

i heard its hard

[vital arrow]

Wait EX stages are just OPs no?

[worthy ermine]

yes

[vital arrow]

I'd just go do char progression really

[vernal lion]

I feel so bad for you, because if you've already had furniture, when you buy it again, it gives you resource to buy and high rarity mats

[foggy grove]

well he can't go back in time

[soft crystal]

Theyre a new player so yeah no int certs

[foggy grove]

[vernal lion]

yea I know

it becomes late game

[merry narwhal]

you get 2k odumbdumbs per re-run, it's nice but not a deal breaker and you can still catch up by doing future reruns

[lethal dragon]

😢 i was getting 10k for my first two rerun events

[vernal lion]

for player that has not paid money in game yet, it's a good source to give them more pulls on gacha

[elder flume]

puller bug is quite annoying

[proud drift]

isn't it better for him to farm NL stages still

for resources

especially loxic kohl and sugar

[vital arrow]

I thought they're stuck on NL8

[proud drift]

oh they might be

cba back-reading 200 messages lol

I mean sugar is still good farm stage

depends on whether they can get enough power from doing non-event stuff at a minimal effort

if it's worth doing off-event or no

buying out the store is good enough ig

[vernal lion]

nl-8 isn't problem much, just use aoe caster on both side
the right side is tougher so you want to use better defenders and more medics

and kill Tola in middle

[tall widget]

yo where do i get the blockades again

[latent anvil]

when you go in the stage...?

or do you mean where do you put them

[vernal lion]

he means the roadblock

[formal moss]

just place em here

[tall widget]

thanks

[latent anvil]

'where do i get the blockades' i thought they meant they wanted to know how to obtain them

[sonic willow]

how very not cool

make them watch the video to experience a masterpiece

[formal moss]

it was so much of a fun watch ngl

but wtf? why is it so expensive

should've made it cheaper for sure

[sonic willow]

[elder flume]

i cant get under 2 non hole kills in s 4

[vernal lion]

"RAGE VIDEO"

[glass monolith]

Literally Hole issue

[elder flume]

fr

cliff issue

dps shift is not it

[vernal lion]

now imagine in CM mode, "hole is no longer existed"

[formal moss]

I have skill issue any tips?

[latent anvil]

if you reject you get full refund bring more defender

[glass monolith]

don't pick shitty quests if you don't have auto which do them

[latent anvil]

just let the boss walk through and sandwich between two op, then kill all blades

[scarlet fulcrum]

kill BK near blue box free quest if u fine with long af clear

[latent anvil]

if you sandwich, teh blades will get stuck on the operators that are doing the sandwiching, so then kill the blades from there

[foggy grove]

i skipped that quest because i don't want to ruin my speed clear 💀

[latent anvil]

you dont need to auto it, just play it manually for once

and when you redo stage you pick whether or not it saves as auto

[scarlet fulcrum]

I used auto skill squad to clear that manually, lazy af

[vital arrow]

Huh isn't that the normal way to farm

Sandwiching BK

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah

Very normal

[latent anvil]

i mean if you can just oneshot him... thats how you farm as well

[vital arrow]

I mean he gets up again on phase 2

I don't want to see him get up more than once so I just sandwich him

[formal moss]

This?

[vital arrow]

Yeah

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah thats normal way to clear quest

[foggy grove]

my clear is normal too