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Or is it just a hardcap
Theres prob hard cap but not for ptilo
idk
Since m3 interval is still 0.75s
Ptilo heals every 2.85 normally, every 0.95 on level 7 S2, and every 0.75 if WHO THE FUCK DOES M3?
yea i was right, its kinda the same effect but if you stack it on each other the calculation varies a bit
Purestream and ange prob hit hard cap with 500 aspd
Wait M3 has aspd gain?
Omw to m3 ptilo

It has interval reduction increase
M0 to m2 is the same
ah yes i reduce my attack interval dramtically
But cycle get worse 
M3 is a +26% hps
That’s a lot
And my JT8-3 need 2 Ptilo activations because NGless
From 0.95s interval to 0.75s interval
If i M3 my Ptilo i lose 10 seconds on JT8-3
Just

Activate ptilo 10s early
:multidalaobow:
just make fire wave go faster
The reason why people say to not m3 ptilo is just
Overkill
And wasting resource on healer
Go all the way to m3 btw
Ya ik
M1-m2 has no benefit
Bruh moment
It makes cycle succ ass if your strategy need 2 skill activations 
Dwsopes resources
Bipolars 
Wait until you see texas eating 16 flake
Still less than saria lul
Oh
M9 e2 only costs 16
Can’t wait for them to announce saria alter only to see the cost be something whack like 25 total t5 RMAs
Modules were a mistake
At least with the 05.01 VA meeting announcement people are coping it will be salter and muelsyse
Flametail module will be reduced first deploy cost?

the lower the atk interval the more effective aspd buffs are, same is true for the inverse(higher atk interval means aspd are less effective), total aspd gets calculated first before the atk interval gets applied.
not really?
Fuck why my brain didn't produce it sooner. Atk interval can be seen as multiplier to attack speed
the same aspd buff will result in the same dps% regardless of atk int
the only reason to make the distinction between the two is when you stack aspd on top
like exu for example
s3 has atk int reuction and t2 has aspd
or aak
here's the formula i found on gamepress
yes
though frame rounding might make it a bit more funky
since your frames are going so low
Game checks for target in range like every 3 frame (AND I HAD DESYNC TO THAT
) so if you speed up enough you reach point you don't attack just because waiting for next frame check
Sadly I never got lucky enough to get 500 aspd so I’ll never get to try funky interactions like this
real
Game has hardcap on 500aspd
i got it mixed, though lets say exu and eben got the same +80 aspd, they'll both get an increase of around 45% faster atk, eben have more seconds between his attacks reduced than exu even though he still attack slower than her, my bad.
Send help, I'm trapped in 7-9 
Don't feed the dogs 
I don't have mastery on horn skill
Which skill should I use for laterano annihilation
S1
afk skills are generally the go-to for anni
Meanwhile me making GG Ambriel sniper nest on each annihilation 
imagine a manual skill only run in annihilation levels
I cam replace gummy with mountain s2m3?
i guess?
Wait, don't tell me almost maxed Cant can't just eat first dogs
My positioning and the fucking DOGS
Maybe use texas instead of courier for the dogs
Starting dogs are not that strong i think
Surviving dogs doesn't matter when there is 6 of them
Do you have La Pluma? 
I'll have to borrow hwr
I don’t think those dogs are gonna be even close to killing her
And if anything texas will actually maybe kill a dog or two unlike courier

If you glance at my Krooster, you'll be disgusted
30% ATK + 300 DEF dogs say WOW WOW WOW
If you have to borrow her then might as well borrow a 6/5 star vanguard
potato lady
so who would you recommend to borrowing 
Bagpipe is free dp + holds a lane or maybe even two
Especially if s3
And makes all vanguards instant-cast their skill
Oh wait
Yeah just mountain
Just La Pluma
20DP cringe
wait for ines

Isn’t Mountain and Canta all you need for the opener?
I need to get Bagpipe
open canta on right side for dogs
managed to 3 star it
never
tomorrow
"I didn't use medics"
Gladiia
Saria
Mudrock
i meant the medics in my ss
yea but you pretty much have lots of self sustain and a healing defender
I used spalter on the right lane
Go away with your Chetto hate i will shoperator her in next banner change
Wdym chetto hate

I just mentioned exu cuz he has her and prob doesn’t have chetto s1m3 
Chetto?
archetto
I don't do well with names 
The beautiful lady bottom left of my picture above
her

No, don't have her
you already cleared it anyways though right
lol
She's an archer right
Well he will return for CM eventually
ye
Exu is enough
I do wonder if I can apply the same units for cm
Exu don't have cute skins
All I have is, Exu, Rosa, Schwartz, Blue Poison, Fire watch, Executor, Platinum, Andreana, Kroos alt, Erato, and Meteorite for my 6/5 range ops
use rosmontis for drones
I want a Kal'stit Alter 
fr
we get Rosmontis?
We already did
she's a limited sniper operator
Since like 1+ year ago
you call yourself kaltsits husband and forget about your daughter
Anyways CM for 7-9 is also sleeper since exy still shreds the sentinels
What are the conditions for cm 7-9
I have only Fia, Chen, Aciddrop, Fartooth, Pozy, Kroos alter, April and Ambriel leveled. Well alos e2 30 benched Exu which last time i used to speedrun WR boss...
I need more snipers 
what we doin
Miscalculation of range
Chen + chetto being s1m3 did a lot
Cuz double sp regen
And damage
Exu prob does it much easier than chetto
Should work just fine
4 dogs on right in 10 seconds walk in eat your s2 Siege and come to blue box to thank you personally
I mean with normal ops its a bit harder than usual
They have canta and a bunch of E2
holy crap
i did mine with gladiia on the left side
90 kal
she just hook the herald
Lmao
Btw, why i don't see memes about blood knight pathing straight into blue box instead wasting time around? 
Yes
is ur chen mod 3
Shit i still need to mod 3 chen 
Mine’s only mod2 iirc 
same
No polymers

Fuck it. Time to return to AP-5 until I get all 5/6 star tokens and all recruits 
I farmed AP-5 for almost month only to waste it all in 2 dead weeks
man
Where pot 6 Breeze
trying skalter carry on lt6 kinda aids

Please tell me 4th anni adds AP-6

And yes i know CE/LS-6 are like 6% more efficient than their -5 versions
72 cost chip stage which guarantee 1 of each 
Your fault for using siege lmao
Don't worry, i will e2 her, give her module Y, and she will still die to those dogs
just use s3!
Was it 254 yellows or 256
To buy all tickets
It was 258

@turbid badge pot3 fia 
wtf
But it wasn’t weedy 
oh
6* bag jumpscare
wtf fia pot
It wasn’t weedy

waow
i have no 6* vanguard, i only use myrtle
Is anyone here has a ex wife s2m3?
how difficult would u guys say this event is?
It’s less difficult and more annoying
same
probably IW-4 or 5
BRUH
what
rip
wtf missed kroos
She is iw-5 mission clear rewards
Does anybody have a Murdock s3m3 I can use
Nl-ex8 challenge mode
Not yet
sure
@gentle finch completed it thanks
Valid?
Since I'm at chap7 and this is patriot chapter, do I e2 amiya in advance so that my whole game doesn't get locked later?
If u want clear ch8 sure, but farm NL event rn imo
You can do it anytime before JT8-8 or something. I'm here and my amiya still e0
Jt8-2
Its just wasted while there is event to farm now, u can progress story later. Especially ch11 soon
u can do that while hoping crate drops, then back to rock hell like usual
new ch release similiar to dead weeks anyway
Overkill
You say that but
That specter leaked a guy already
And is about to leak another
what level are the champs
Time to learn how to use skills
Fixed
Skill isue fixed
That is quite the rarity abuse
if you need help ask me
Though seeing perfumer instead of ptilopsis
Irks me
Actually do you even need a medic there

Kinda yeah
Sniperknights
My condolences
No it's okay lol
the offer is there fr all eternity

Nice sniper on top right
It looks like one of the harder classes to niche it looks like from the vids i watch
Would like some help with this if anyone can give any advice
Chen+warfarin wanpan
also hey, @proud drift i see you here a lot 
how does the targeting work for his black smoke
Hey, can you jog my memory a bit 
lol
Highest dps >last deployed
Highest damage dealer to boss outside of fart > last deployed > himself
you helped me clear CM bird mephisto and almost all of CM prison break clears 
If you have heavyrain you can kinda cheese him
if he has no target he just shits on himself right
im that 6 star player dude so i dont have war nor chen unnfortunately
not built in the least
Good news is WD won't go anywhere
chen i frame
To wanpan him
yah
E1 warf and pot3 thrm at the time
oh wiw
can irene replace chen
not really
oh no iframe so she'll pop huh
she could still do damage but u have mlynar and surtr for damage
regular
Mlynar can probably schwing him hard enough
cant even imagine what cm is like
yea

yup
i cant brute force it 
i tried it when i didnt have schwing so ill give it a shoot for his phase 2, ill put him on the middle right lane after i killed phase 1 with surtur, lets see
I think mlynar can schwing him just outside of his aoe
To not get onetapped
Only issue is
If you block him
He’ll fart whoever is blocking
Cuz the defender will hit him
Myrtle not E2?
Though I have an idea kinda for you to try
although im working on cantabile later
especially if you do surtr tech for p1
Fuck
I dunno if I have an idea
Wait do you have thorns
You do
If you could make him fart one left or one right of middle on thorns instead of surtr
It could work then
Stage?
@tidal sedge what's the problem?
wd ex 8 regular
at first i didnt understand what prio would he drop his smoke bomb on and i didnt understand where to bait it
but i got that now
can Surtur lvl 60 s3m3 kill phase 1 herself? mine died?
@proud drift
or maybe he hit her before i started her skill it shocked me
Yeah she will be killed of you don't use her skill
why does arknights always do this thing where the 2nd and 3rd to last stages of the event make me mald so bad and then the last stage is super easy
nl-s-5 was so easy compared to 3 and 4
lemme retry, i feel like i dont have enough dp for my expensive units lol
same thing happened with SN
my ass is getting shredded by 7 9, help me out
do you mind coaching my run? im at a loss here @frigid kite
I think dswop is already at it
I can't believe I can't do this Horn speedrun on NL-10 cuz I'm too whel
cant wait to see what he's cooking 
only works for p3 Horn and below
whats the issue?
Flametail gets shredded, dp is shit
lemme go see what 7-9 again was rq
You can borrow thorns and plop him on mid right facing left
Don't have mlynar
And then work on other lanes
what mid,
np
Which middle?
where did you place surtur to kill phase 1
Dog lane
I had thorns left of middle, surtr middle
That’s why fart is left of middle
Honestly the hard part of wd ex 8 isn’t even eb imo
It’s the wave after u kill him 
which of these lanes?
back then i couldnt even kill him 
poza ye
Ok
actually wait no at the time it was a borrowed eyja
i remember when i tried it poze wasnt out
Dog lane
K, the. Dp won't be an issue?
Since thorns kinda does a lot
@tidal sedge honestly, im a fairly new player myself and i remember i couldnt beat that stage 3 stars till i had stronger vanguards
im guessing the early dogs are killing your flametail yea?
cause thats what happened to my saga
yes
knew it
These dogs do like 9x more damage
yea haha
Tried defender atart
Left dog lane shreds through me and I die
mm
zis stage huh
But he does a lot less than I anticipated
ye i was gonna say i just did what you did and i got rolled LOL
If only you had warfarin or chen 
Do you not have a selector ticket for 5*?
Or did you use it on sth
@tidal sedge i personally think its a come back later stage and just get your 1-2 stars for now, its a stat check imo, its hard to support your way out of that one since the prob is the first 20 seconds
funny story 
i picked Texas
then got free texas

Coping with 2 star clear is sanity loss
Obtain that warfarin
Oh

but im not a whole chen for one stage Dswopey 
borow
Then do what I did in video for his p2
Warfarin e1 + thrm + chen s3m3 lv90
how's this
but she does make blade much easier
what is thrm 
uhhhh
i hope she's sl7
lemme see

why did i even raise her, i forgot, think it was before i got NG
@proud drift i think Surtur and Uncle can do it without war on normal or am i coping 
lol for 7-9 just borrow a leveled ling
give her some support and easy clear if u follow guide (if any exist)
there's no way he's get the DP for ling, im 100% sure
rip bozo
Ya just did quick damage check
Lv60 chen
Not enough
Lv90+ sl7 warf
Might be enough
Can’t test rn, ending shift at work
how did you just find a random 60 chen 
Can test at home in like 26min 
My own

oh 
are u guys just trying to clear the stage or something else in mind
clear
nope, my chen is lvl 1 and my war is sl4 e1 60
trying to see if uncle and surtur would be enough
@proud drift im gonna wait the 26mins 
@gentle finch wanna see/help?
sent my message prematurely
why not ig
no way me too
@gentle finch waiting at general, you dont have to talk, ill be watching chat if you wanna type
alright
No resources to sl7?
It should be cheap


f
Green certs
Skalter 
man

Do you have green certs
lemme see
wait so who are you borrowing
@tidal sedge done already?
hm
45 dollars per piece?
@proud drift
Warfarin better beat stage 10 for me at this point
would surtr with saria S3 one cycle first phase
i know it certs i just call everything dollars
if i had saria LOL, and im sure surtur alone does it
Surtr can cycle 1st phase eb by herself
ok
Though i don't recommend doing it on ex-8 since it'll smoke the mid
Ya
i have to play stage again
Just buy the 2 rmas
i can't remember it at all
r u tryna warf chen
It will be enough
run thermal ex should be enough then
lvl 90 s3 m3
else
Mod3 lv90 dhould be enough
try golden horse
yea
Nah
lol
i wonder if skadi modx can just cycle second phase
wait do i even have a chen friend
lets see
He doesn’t stay still long enough
Doesn’t lolicon have lv90 chen
you can use mine if you want, friends are nice

only 60
Bruh

lol
i have my own mlynar
im out of friend slots
Do you guy want help with WD-8? 
this stage had drone right?
wd-ex-8
yea
The same
1 UFO on the left side
cmon sl7
o
just cause my war is sl4 doesnt mean i dont raise anyone
all my 6 stars are sl7 i think 
bro
ive got all night take your time
who are you running fast redeploy for?
ah
yea i used poza
hm she was hiding behindMostima
didn't see her
anyways give me like 5-10 mine
hopefully
almost
bruh i forgot to borrow surtr
@tidal sedge did you get it yet
got home so launching ak
nope still struggling
wanna watch me suffer?
basically I surtr+ skadi first phase
then i do the same for second phase
but you have to stall for a bit when he revived
not long
can you send me your ops list again
↑
so I can have an idea of what to build for other units
i prefer this
well that was a win so cant have been that bad
hmm do I not have chen s3m3 lv90 anymore suddenly
I don't

@lethal dragon what's your chen level
also @tidal sedge
you should have this
especially if you did story
hmm
bruh
he doesn't have mountain
not good
well
skadi or gladiia ig
saga s2 works too instead of him

ok done
Ursus slaver enjoyer
I mean my strat would work if I used kaltsit instead of gladiia
but I tried gladiia cope
it didn't work
but ya
Shining S1 best M3 candidate
cuz that's what he had set
Warf needs M3?
Chen warf is enough with a few more auto attacks
Warf m3 needed
But with thrm probably not really
no
then i set up Saria with warf S1
stall for a bit
redeploy surtr to do more damage above him on the tile where skadi is
then lastly redeploy skadi
mod2 s3m3 lv60 chen
and he's dead
sl7 warf
Pretty sure irene dies from emp blade during her s3
and pot3 thrm
that was a failed run
i don't use Irene there anymore
i used her to chip drone at the beginning on the run where i won
while also dealing damage to the left side mobs
anyways my strat is more complicated lol
wouldve been easier if i recorded tbh
Irene goes on the stage to look pretty 
imma try borrow irene instead of bagpepe and see how different it's gonna be 
but the gist of my strat is basically surtr+ skadi, making sure each deployment isn't on a fart tile
and he will die in two cycles of this, one for each phase
and while he's reviving you should stall him for best effect
that's it really
noir corne bypassing death call would be nice for en
So I'm doing the events we can go back to and like
How the fuck do I beat this boss, I get to the last stretch but dude puts his dominions all over near my cubes and nukes my ops 
Do I have to place my ops on the right side the whole time or something ?
Why
You have some options, Nuke the boss on the place, separate your ops while DPSing him
surtr solos the boss both phases
Or let him walk and attack him while he's out of your operators place
WD-8
not ex
💀
i completely removed mudrock from my strat
but yea
she's kinda useless for it
yeah yours seem more replicable
who's doing ex8?
One guy
I just let thorns chip drone after Irene did initial damage at the top
and it worked out
I think he left thought
lmfao mountain can tank red weeb
cuz of fart
he regens faster than the weeb hits
exact amount too

!
did they send team?
they sent units yeah
yeah
we kinda already gave him 2 viable strats
oh true
idk how he's gonna cope without those two
i ran flagpipe
S1M1 myrtle though
I see
I tried like
Seperating them, but it's always at the last stretch he makes it past with 3 casters 
Alright
idk how to do it flagless 
squad right here for me
Share your deployments
oh
he has saga actually
so it should be even easier for him than for me
cuz he just deploys saga middle
turns volume up to 100%
ABURAAGE
ABURAAGE
DP 
re al
i even removed modules from everyone to make it even
as even as possible
I really should've recorded it though, there's some stuff i did like nightingale cage that would be hard to explain over text
not really but whatever
not cm
yeh but he's gonna do cm after anyway
true
if it works cm then nm is free 
Is3 when
didn't even use 
siege is fine

my only 6* vg is bagpipe
6s vg man , vigil soon , dw
xd


me trying to work with myrtle and canta and texas on holding middle without leaking
natto gohan and aburaage dispenser
Lol man gets to pick and choose which strat he wants to use
I didn't even know this server existed when I was new
@tidal sedge read from here down and just choose whichever one floats your boat
is cool to see how different people clear a stage though
np
Damn he still here
Cursed
squad used
it forced my hand to use Ling
pog

he did a 5 head and combined all the strats into one
i actually did LMAO
only issue is
my cm
it involved a certain blue woman
she's very good against uh
certain enemies
btw if you wanna perma-stall post EB death
this will give you like
2 minutes of time to prep
if you don't believe me
well
here's a timestamp

it started when thrm was 90s on cooldown, he came off ling went another 20s
so basically I was spot on almost
110s of prep time from a 75% weeb dueling a s1 blebishine in fart

Mint cant lock sleepers alone even with force tile
Damn Cliffhear E2 looks menacing
The one with thorns strat 
isnt there an op that doesnt get targeted until they use skill
Bubble if you don't mean Libertators
uh









doomed


