strategy

[turbid badge]

smhhsmsh

[full finch]

cycle is good too
+0.4 SP/s

[frigid kite]

What sounds more comfy than something like Chong-yue + Skalter

[zealous cradle]

its like 70s i think?

[soft crystal]

How much hps is suzu s3

[zealous cradle]

for sp + duration

[flat sapphire]

it's just that the proviso buff really isn't significant in this scenario ig

[soft crystal]

Proviso buff benefits i think blem the most i guess out of all the kazis

[turbid badge]

i like giving it to ashlock s2

but yeah blem is nice too since it buffs her aspd which helps her SP

[full finch]

20% atk iirc

which is like 120-140?

[zealous cradle]

so the same as skalter s2?

[full finch]

it's about 120
module doesn't give atk

[turbid badge]

oh

noice

[icy pollen]

which e1 guards can hold down this lane solo? pr-d-2

[soft crystal]

Lits

Lots

[zealous cradle]

isnt the strat to use a shifter on the ranged tile and block with a def

[icy pollen]

which one

[zealous cradle]

left

[icy pollen]

oh i meant when they said lots, i meant which guards

[soft crystal]

Nah its kinda bad if you use a puller

Theres invisible enemies

[icy pollen]

oh yeah that’s true

[zealous cradle]

block?

[flat sapphire]

that's not solo anymore

[icy pollen]

SA can’t hold the lane, enemies get up to 3 and he can’t dps fast enough

some get through

[soft crystal]

If you block need a healer

[zealous cradle]

well how is anything gonna solo that when casters are smacking the shit out of it

[soft crystal]

Though a guardian can work

[frigid kite]

Gavialter S1, Mountain S2, Hellagur and the other Musas but they could leak, Blaze S2 and Pluma

[flat sapphire]

i'm just saying. they asked for a solo which idk who can at e1 tbh

[icy pollen]

oh i’ll try blaze

[frigid kite]

They could kill her so don't be that confident

[zealous cradle]

yeah i dont think you’re meant to solo that at e1

since its a specialist stage the strat is probably puller + guardian

[icy pollen]

i guess not solo but with a healer

is it possible?

[frigid kite]

Ah

Damn

[zealous cradle]

with a healer its easy

[frigid kite]

Most guards 💀

[zealous cradle]

specify solo dps next time

[icy pollen]

yeah i forgor

[flat sapphire]

maybe not 1 blocks

[icy pollen]

I really thought SA had the dps and range to do it

[flat sapphire]

s1?

[frigid kite]

Silverash, Specter, Lappland, Popukar, Broca, Cutter, Pallas, Irene, Arene, Midnight

[turbid badge]

theres a logger thats down there i think theres 4 in total and 2 go down that lane

veteran loggers*

[frigid kite]

Bibeak, Maybe thorns and the other guy i don't remember the name

Damn, even Xiaohei

[silver mirage]

Need help on this stage

[frigid kite]

Need for auto, right?

[fallen chasm]

Mountain can demolish that lane, aka hold uhh boss

[silver mirage]

Ya for auto

[soft crystal]

I think you might need one more defender to block the boss

[frigid kite]

Nah, Mountain and Mudrock tank him

[silver mirage]

Mud s3 or s2?

[soft crystal]

You drop courier

[frigid kite]

S2

[fallen chasm]

Surtr can just additional support

Blaze can kill blood blades

[silver mirage]

OK wait

How do I do the opener

:derp:

[somber falcon]

Canta on right side of lamp

[frigid kite]

Put Courier next to the center lamp

[soft crystal]

Open with mountain, myrtle and canta

[fallen chasm]

myrtle into courier+mountain

cantabile open...

hmmm

[somber falcon]

You don't need flag

Or even courier

[fallen chasm]

idk last time I needed Canta was cc10

[soft crystal]

Why wouldnt you open with canta its free dp, unless they slot hwr off

[somber falcon]

[fallen chasm]

Needs to hit enemies for dp

[soft crystal]

Needs only to hit 5 times to get back her cost

Assuming pot 1

[turbid badge]

u can just do something like this, you really dont need to hold the lane either you can probably swap out the guard at the bottom lane for a guardian (gummy,nearl,saria) if u have blemishine she can probably solo the bottom lane lol

[icy pollen]

oh i see now, but that puller, idk who they are, are they holding their own lane too?

[frigid kite]

Teta doing the good work

[turbid badge]

No they die eventually

[zealous cradle]

you could literally just put rope on the same tile lumen is on put a guardian on the left bottom tile

and that would be the end of bot

oh wait

[turbid badge]

alot of snipers come out

[zealous cradle]

thats what you did

[turbid badge]

u can also have a caster

[zealous cradle]

im el stupido

[icy pollen]

so who’s lumen?

[turbid badge]

lumen the medic on ranged tile

[silver mirage]

Dafuq

Theboss no die

[turbid badge]

wot happened

[silver mirage]

He just stand there but hìs hp not dropping

[livid delta]

Anyone else feel like PR-D-1 is one of the best designed stages in the game

[zealous cradle]

you let him absorb the blades

[turbid badge]

blaze cant actually solo , shes e1 max lvl , well she has no trust so idk but cliffheart stun saved her from getting hit again but its workable you can just deploy some other operator to catch the logger if she does die since i dont have a full team

[frigid kite]

@silver mirage

[turbid badge]

M sandwich

lul

[frigid kite]

MbM

[silver mirage]

💀

[frigid kite]

Me when

[foggy grove]

truly skill issue

[somber falcon]

How is your mud dead

[turbid glen]

when the boss revives does he does a pretty painful slash
idk how it picks the target tho

[zealous cradle]

literally just

whoever blocks

[elder flume]

He unblocks when revive so non sandwich strat is lol

[turbid glen]

my bagpipe managed to survive the slash so I guess it's a leveling issue
or the wrong blockers

[somber falcon]

If it hit mud, she can tank it
If it hit mountain and he dies, just replace with surtr
Ez

[turbid badge]

real

[silver mirage]

[somber falcon]

Why is there a gap between mountain and mud

[silver mirage]

Sutr was there

[somber falcon]

And why are you putting her there

[silver mirage]

The problem I having is there's a slash

[foggy grove]

to be stunned ofc

[somber falcon]

See here for how to sandwich

Bruh

[silver mirage]

And instakilled

Lappland

[somber falcon]

Why are you using your dmg dealer as stun bait

[turbid badge]

mudrock can tank a slash for sure

[silver mirage]

It hit lappland

[somber falcon]

O wait that's not your msg mb

[silver mirage]

[somber falcon]

Use another defender as bait

Was using nearl above ptil

[silver mirage]

How does ur healer live

All my healer gets killed in one shot

I don't understand

[somber falcon]

Becuase she doesn't get hit

And doesn't have her back to the dark

[cyan gorge]

Is that NL 10?

[somber falcon]

Yeah

[cyan gorge]

can't you just sandwich the boss between 2 defenders and Surt?

at least that worked for me on ex8

[somber falcon]

Okay yeah nightzmora's got your medic, that's why they're dead

[somber falcon]

Ye, that's the standard strat

[turbid badge]

yeA

idk whats happening

im assuming low surtr masteries orr??

[turbid glen]

mudrock got stunned, so the boss just walks by her

[turbid badge]

mine manages to kill just in time

[somber falcon]

BK seems ok there, he just doesn't know how tola(s) work

[cyan gorge]

I just sandwiched him and he was gone

[somber falcon]

@silver mirage

[turbid badge]

ohh

the first 2

just have someone like gravel help with lighting

[cyan gorge]

medic defenders are great for light manipulation

[turbid badge]

smh i will build lee soon!!

[cyan gorge]

Lee worked up until EX8 cm

[turbid badge]

anyways brute force with defenders and centurions

[cyan gorge]

BK one shots in p2

[turbid badge]

specter s2 is such a nice skill

feels like using surtr but im not actually using her

[cyan gorge]

Blemi S3 + Nian S3 just face tanks everything

he stood no chance

[turbid badge]

nicee

i had wunectus shred him

funnily enough saria actually dies once to the slash

[cyan gorge]

that's what I originally tried, but the friend who recommended that also had a maxed mod 3 Saria, compared to my no mod or mastery

[elder flume]

[turbid badge]

i honestly love horn s2 its such a nice skill it charges faster than s3 and it can be utilized to bombard something shes blocking rather to s3 wastig all her time on some enemy shes blocking

[cyan gorge]

Forgot to mention my Lee is M0 with mod 1

[silver mirage]

Finally I cleared it

Barely

I got a feeling my auto has fail chance

[turbid glen]

the slash can sometimes target the non blocker

[frigid kite]

It could be 2 things

One, the last one that was blocking, the other order deploy

Or something something the one it detects first something something

[turbid glen]

i did multiple runs
sometimes he will slash mlynar, sometimes he will slash bagpipe

[silver mirage]

So ya rng

[fresh copper]

It's RNG

[silver mirage]

Won't that mean auto is gonna fail

Time to find out

[fresh copper]

Just kill him faster

[turbid glen]

for me, no cuz bagpipe is a beast and will live through the slash

[storm current]

Pinecone rockrock poggy

[zealous cradle]

i thoufht that said peggy for a second and im like thays either sexual or from koth

[storm current]

what lol

[zealous cradle]

dont worry about it

[storm current]

pinecone and rockrock does 80% of the stage

me when 300 def 80 res

[silver mirage]

Worth buying rock rock?

[frigid kite]

Statstick stage gated

[near folio]

Tbh Rockrock is quite a weird caster

I have a feeling she might need S2M3 in order to see her actually doing stuff

[storm current]

eh

she can do so much dps at m0 already

and after m1 she broke my auto cuz she does more dps

[near folio]

Mainly have problem with rockrock's downtime

[storm current]

her cooldown is 40s

even with overload

[cyan gorge]

Rockrock's downtime isn't even that bad

[storm current]

the cooldown is still way faster than any other caster

[near folio]

I feel that there isnt any new content that rockrock excels in

Or maybe she is just unlucky to be released with chapter 10

[gentle finch]

do you guys find S-4 is harder or S-5

cm

[sly drift]

How do you even unlock the S stage

I'm new to this event

[gentle finch]

idk

I had them unlocked from past

something to do with prestige i think

[sly drift]

Rockrock is real good. You can overuse (overdrive?) the skill to the point you get stunned for so long but your SP is filled like 50-60% the time the stun is over. So the uptime is real good

[turbid glen]

what does it say when you see the screen for the S stages?

[sly drift]

I legit didn't check the s stage or whatever is it. It just locked then I do the unlocked stage hoping the S stage will unlock too eventually

[gentle finch]

man

[frigid kite]

Yeah I think enough reputation will give you access

[gentle finch]

I did it first try in practice mode but now I keep failing normal mode

[foggy grove]

i brought the wrong ng skill on cm

super scuffed run

[turbid badge]

what stage is that again

[gentle finch]

S-4 cm

[turbid badge]

why r u using pram

[gentle finch]

why not.

[frigid kite]

He wants to do the funny

[turbid badge]

does pram even work with suzu

[gentle finch]

wym

[turbid badge]

oh

-def

I thought ti was only res

mfw

[somber falcon]

They'd still stack even if she only gives -res

[gentle finch]

↑

suzu gives fragile

[frigid kite]

Only 1 fragile applies, the biggest and strongest one

[lethal dragon]

Nice

[turbid badge]

eunectus ma favorite stat stick

man after i raise spalte

everyone used fr

[edgy hound]

NL-10. If you kill blood knight on right side what happens in phase 2? Is it a good approach?

[cyan gorge]

If you kill him on the second tile from where he spawns, he won't absorb any blades

from the third tile he will

you need really strong dps to pull it off

my E2 60 SA and Surt with Suzu S3 and Castle just barely isn't enough

[edgy hound]

Pozy can't hit that tile.

how bad is it if he absorbs blades anyway?

[turbid glen]

I saw a strat that used chen + warf
I saw another strat that used saria + suzu + surtr

[cyan gorge]

he'll revive and you need to deal with the transition phase all over again

[turbid glen]

are the mob spawns tied to the boss's hp?

[cyan gorge]

phase locked iirc

[edgy hound]

Does tile 3 give him enough blades to respawn?

[cyan gorge]

It does

or not, idr

I gave up on spawnkilling

[gentle finch]

smh

[sly drift]

S1 Pozy, Ash Exusiai good? Based on calc
Bruh I need sniper dps that can do good damage all the time and not burst
Let aside *5. How about *6?

[turbid glen]

5 blades spawn, 4 on 3rd tile, 1 on 2nd tile,
then 1 more spawns but this appears from red box and only happens after his invuln phase

[cyan gorge]

BP s1

[gentle finch]

blue poison

yes

good skill 1

6* aa too expensive if you are considering masteries on their skill 1's (idk if you are), but blue poison S1 is just a solid, consistent skill

how consistent is Archetto S2 though🤔

[edgy hound]

ok ty. Doesn't seem to be an easy approach then.

[cyan gorge]

Not consistent enough

[gentle finch]

rip

[cyan gorge]

S1 is okay, but just use BP

[gentle finch]

real

I mean technically platinum is consistent

after her windup

[cyan gorge]

I'd rather have BP's multitarget

[gentle finch]

same

[elder flume]

Wdym platinum is technically consistent

[sly drift]

What about *6 bruh? Are they really bad in being dps compared to *5 lmao.

[storm current]

She is technically not

Either big hit after not attacking

[gentle finch]

new lolicon nickname

[storm current]

Or medium hit

[gentle finch]

no

just their best skills are burst

if u weren't considering masteries for them idk why'd you ask here so I'm just assuming you are

[turbid badge]

bp m3 turns into 2 Sp so it benefits her alot

[storm current]

You technically can use ash s1 archetto s1 or exu s1

[gentle finch]

yes

[storm current]

But they are generally a waste of investment to m3

[turbid badge]

ash s1 is so poop masteries lol

its like 0.9 dps increase

[sly drift]

But Ash S1 seems interesting tho. Constant 2x hit look strong
Idk what data said

[cyan gorge]

Out of the 6* options, I'd only consider giving Cheeto S1 masteries

even then, BP just better overall imo

[gentle finch]

damn Greythroat s1 really destroyed by BP

[turbid badge]

yea cheeto masteries in s1 are decent

[turbid badge]

i love gt s2 with aspd relics in is2

[gentle finch]

same

[turbid badge]

spams her skill

[gentle finch]

so satisfying

to listen to

[turbid badge]

yea that too

[sly drift]

Any of those worth to Module?

[gentle finch]

stage one if you want to

[somber falcon]

Chetto

[cyan gorge]

Cheeto second mod when it comes out

[gentle finch]

↑

[storm current]

Ash and exu module are balls

Waste of resource

[gentle finch]

real

[cyan gorge]

BP mod is okay, but not worth if you don't have resources to burn

[sly drift]

Damn.. Ash S1 is actually so shit

[turbid badge]

for cheeto mod u can just go mod 2

2nd one

[elder flume]

Chetto first mod is for s2 rite

[gentle finch]

seems like everyone just chalter on s-5

looking at salt mines

[turbid badge]

her 2nd module isnt anything crazy tho

just helps her sp

[scarlet mortar]

isn't it abt the same if not worse sometimes

[cyan gorge]

It helps all off rec snipers, especially me as a Fia S2 enjoyer

[somber falcon]

It benefits all skill
Since all are offensive rec
Oh if you mean the talent upgrade, then yea either s2 or s3

[turbid badge]

yea sort of

that ones the helidrop one

2nd ones nice if u have fiametta/meteorite/greythroat /chalter s1 nd rosmontis s1 memes

could also help kroos alter with s1 camo

[limpid siren]

[turbid badge]

her current module buffing attack speed so she gets her a decent sp back from that

[tidal sedge]

if I e2 sa will I be able to get an easy anni3 without a support? (Eyja also e2d rn)

[latent anvil]

depends on ur snipers to kill arts drones

i dont think you can perfect cycle kill all arts drones with SA Eyja

[tidal sedge]

meteor and kroos,may on the way to being built

[latent anvil]

i mean its definitely doable, probably not 'easy anni3', but doable

[turbid badge]

there teams pretty solid

[storm current]

E2 may is enough to 400 with support

[sly drift]

Arguably the most disgusting stage to ever made lmao.

Can't forget how hard this sht was

[latent anvil]

how is that even close to wd-ex-8 cm

or h10-3

or even h8-4

[gentle finch]

WD-EX-8 cm is easy

[storm current]

Prob cuz he hasnt do those yet

Lmao

[gentle finch]

idek what stage this is

sn-8?

[cyan gorge]

Blacknight + Beanstalk

[gentle finch]

Memory 100

[latent monolith]

SN S 4 (forgot if it's A or B)

[gentle finch]

lmao

[sly drift]

Did the blind run. Dunno what are those two do in the stage.

[latent monolith]

Their summons can block enemies even when underground with the +1 block tag

Or little handy component rather

[turbid badge]

yeaa

[latent monolith]

It was quite funny, everything started blocking enemies

[turbid badge]

h10-3

man lo

[latent monolith]

Seaborn, silence drone

[turbid badge]

blocking with fucking robertas makeup

[sly drift]

I still don't know how to complete that stage
Seeing the stage alone give me pain

It's suprisingly harder than risk 20 i did in previous cc.
Probably because i did 20+ attempts maybe 30+

[tidal sedge]

Can any of y'all give strat on this one?
(Ran out of lmd to e2 some of them)

[turbid badge]

borrow goldenglow

[latent monolith]

Borrow goldenglow

[elder flume]

and thats it

[latent monolith]

Snailed

[tidal sedge]

Don't have a friend that has goldenglow

[latent monolith]

Get a friend

[sly drift]

Bro bringing Ling and can't even solo.. smh

[latent monolith]

actually is it possible to ling S2 that stage

[elder flume]

does talulah get slowed by mostima

[latent monolith]

I don't see why not

[sly drift]

Probably yea but why
Talulah don't walk that fast

[turbid badge]

bro her dragons get 2 tapped

[latent monolith]

There's no ling solos, but there are texas alter, yato alter and Ines solos

[elder flume]

idk she can prob die even with all roads unlocked

[latent monolith]

Ling has to go with duos

[latent monolith]

You still need to kill the drones, and the other enemies that spawn

[sly drift]

Ling is weak. Embrace the fast redeploys

[elder flume]

im thinking of how to ignore drone and just let her walk
its prob not gona work cuz waai fu doesnt even hit air

[turbid badge]

wait is ines a caprinae

ughh

“undisclosed”

fugg

[latent anvil]

do you still need a friend with gg?

[turbid badge]

undisclosedknights

[latent monolith]

Reminder that drones entering blue box loses you lives

And that the drones actually do that

[sly drift]

Yea. Based on theory.
Her being sarkaz isn't true because she apparently carve her horn.

[turbid badge]

man i was about to celebrate ines joining bena being a melee deployable goats

[tidal sedge]

I'm stuck to that stage, so I chose to farm mats instead. But i think I need some friends too since most of my friends stopped playing ak

[turbid badge]

yeaa

i thoight itd show

in her e2 baxkground it shows a goat

or whatever it is

[latent anvil]

Kugisaki#6813 ill put gg up for a bit, wont stay permanently tho

[turbid badge]

so i was like pog than bam undisclosed

[latent anvil]

e2 77 prob enough

[tidal sedge]

Might as well as ask for strat

[latent anvil]

you uh, place a vg down and then gg and then gg should kill everything

[tidal sedge]

What's so special about goldenglow anyways

[latent anvil]

she has global range and nice dmg

[turbid badge]

global range

and unlike ambriel

[elder flume]

Got mostima in by replacing specter
With better planning prob can change honeyberry to sora

[gentle finch]

and res ignore

[latent anvil]

rain is that the same run from like 10 hours earlier

[tidal sedge]

That's some op skill

[latent anvil]

wouldnt be surprised with the amount of frames you had

[elder flume]

uh i just started few mins ago
been tweaking auto to not kill bk

have to redo if i wana try sora in the squad tho

[sly drift]

Wait what? Nightingale 3 cages?

[latent anvil]

if you place ng, sell her, and then place her again, you get 3

[elder flume]

same applies to dc mayer

og summoner bug

[latent anvil]

bug abuse ban

[scarlet mortar]

summons have a max cap
deploying an op adds their starting summon count but retreating them does not reset said count

[gentle finch]

hm

NL-S-5 looking kinda

[scarlet mortar]

spawncamp or hoshi, your choice

or you be me and throw 5 bodies

(one is gravel and the other is phantom + clone)

[gentle finch]

I wonder if skadi+lumen can hea

l

well i haven't seen the mob spawning yet so I'll talk after

[turbid badge]

thank rosmontis

god i hate the cm

smhsmh

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/5OEKQcSjhlQ

[latent anvil]

[gentle finch]

works

xd

for normal mode

[tidal sedge]

I forgor to tell you to accept me, it's Zephyr#1314

[sonic willow]

wtf is this

nl ex4 cm super cringe

[gentle finch]

noo-

[turbid badge]

wtf 2 broken rocks

cring

[gentle finch]

dusk too weak

rip bozo

[cyan gorge]

that's the one with dp down right?

[cyan gorge]

Oh

I just Suzu S3 + Exu top lane

[sonic willow]

well, still cleared, but guard/def triple cost is mega cringe

[gentle finch]

I don't remember stage

cleared it a year ago or something

[cyan gorge]

triple cost yet I still put down Saria and Blemi

[sleek remnant]

Strategy for DV-2? The armored guy always can three hits Beagle no matter what?

[storm current]

Supposedly

You use their skill or heal harder

The robot is weak against art

And you can silence the punch suppression skill

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/VInyHm_bCMY

mostima cant kill with 1 skill cycle

[sleek remnant]

Wtf am I looking at. There is barely a HP drop at the enemies despite an obviously overpowered placement of the operators given here

[elder flume]

80 res be like

[scarlet mortar]

me watching the vid at 2x expecting it to go faster than 1 fps

also that's beautiful

[glass monolith]

You achieved bloonsTD in AK

[near folio]

30% damage increase

[glass monolith]

from 300% to 330% is 10% increase

Which is still like twice as much dps gain compared to some master 3

Confused screaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO_Yp_qtmT0

[honest dove]

surely a singular stage showcase is meaningful

[opal kiln]

hi neb big fan

[glass monolith]

Screw "still bad". It is fucking casters only NL EX-8 CM

[frigid kite]

Bad op can't be saved

[glass monolith]

Shut
(hugs Sora pillow)

[latent monolith]

round 76 be like

[soft crystal]

Spectral was a bad op until mods

[latent monolith]

So that makes mostima a 255 glue

activate skill, basically stops all enemies in range, does very slight damage, it all adds up

[storm current]

round 76 is pleb

true dread is round 96 and 98

[latent monolith]

Actually yeah it's more like 98, since they're also very tanky

[storm current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588921614303233/1097095571443028098/20230416_114510.jpg?width=696&height=655

wtf

year 1 vs modern

[foggy grove]

horn casually blasting corrosive archer

modern is brain dead easy cyle nuke

year 1 is like heli drop and wait till hell froze cd

[soft crystal]

Modern operator with high sp costs...

I can only think Mizuki s3 and Qiu Bai?

And those arent even as high as 90+

[sly pivot]

when bloodknight starts his stun animation

and i retreat his target

does he instantly target a new target

or do i need to wait another set time

for him to stun again

[glass monolith]

if you retreat too early he will find new target. Regardless after stunning he waits fixed time to do it again

[sly pivot]

okay what if i retreat

the moment he starts his animation

he doesnt shoot shit

yet

but i remove his target

does he shoot it to a new target

or do i need to wait

[soft crystal]

Just sandwich him like a normal person would

[sly pivot]

fucking answer my question

actually useless

[soft crystal]

Idk try it

[sly pivot]

im asking because i dont know

strat channel my ass

[soft crystal]

I wont try experimenting it for you if youre being rude

[sly pivot]

bro if u wont help dont bother

[soft crystal]

I was gonna

[scarlet mortar]

wait until the projectile appears

else he'll just recast

well if you have more than one op on the field he'll just target the other one ig

[lethal dragon]

If you retreat before shooting he will just change target

[sly drift]

Dude needs to calm down.
Enjoy this smile skadi first

[opal kiln]

sorry this is #arknights-2

strat is no more

😔

[sly pivot]

ask for answer
replies with entirely different thing
???

surely

also thanks for the ppl who actually contributes to the channel

[fresh copper]

If the target gets retreated after it gets fired then the attack just disappears like most projectiles

[lethal dragon]

If projectile is still in his hand he will just change target

[limpid siren]

[glass monolith]

This chat is on its peak when 3 ongoing topics at same time explain solution for different maps using same operators

[torn ice]

what

[gleaming lodge]

iirc Faust purple shot is the only animation that gets canceled from target retreat before the projectile appears

so you would have to wait until its animation is finished @sly pivot

also yes, strat is dead

[sly pivot]

thanks

im gonna get the bread

[limpid siren]

you can do it to bombtails and anti-armor infantry too

they use up their ammo but won't fire anything

[edgy stag]

think its possible for me to do nl-ex-8 with this? https://www.krooster.com/u/Sasha every guide ive seen has required several ops that i dont have

normally i can just borrow one to cover but when half the guides have 2 6* carry units its kinda hard..

[lethal dragon]

Oh damn lmao I always waited untill they fire

🤦‍♂️

Mama's john SSS

Sound funny

[limpid siren]

probably yeah but it's gonna hurt a lot, or at least cm will
give me a few minutes to try and work something out

[glass monolith]

Well i have one good news. Nothing survive BK hit in his phase 2

[lethal dragon]

Cuora probably

[limpid siren]

mlynar will survive

i think the play is to borrow a summer chen and just blast him down that way anyway

[glass monolith]

Just to be sure we watch same roster

[lethal dragon]

I recommend lee

[glass monolith]

Maxed lee is copium

[lethal dragon]

https://imgur.com/gallery/bhtX50y

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/702599907063627887.png

[fringe hedge]

earlier i mentioned using proviso to buff Mylnar a bit and seemed like the general conclusion was it would increase dps a teensy bit but not much, but had also forgottened the other reason was because i wasn't sure if Mylnar triggered his own passive on S3 for true damage

does he trigger the true damage or does it need to be a Kazimier apart from himself?

[glass monolith]

any kazimier, he is kazimier

[fringe hedge]

wasn't 100% sure if it would or not because at that point why make it a stipulation for the ability?

[edgy stag]

cause other kazimierz ops can trigger it too

[soft crystal]

Yeah theres this funny meme clear with like killing Patriot phase 2 with only Mlynar reflect talent

All the kazi ops around him as he died from the true damage

https://youtu.be/eWMJr-J_Hsg

[edgy stag]

well they were talking about the extra hit on s3 but yea both of them can be triggered by any kazi op

[soft crystal]

Me cant read moment

[edgy stag]

the reflect kill is pre funny tho

[soft crystal]

The true damage kinda adds like extra 200 more damage i think on s3

Not big but its something

[fringe hedge]

ah didn't look like he triggered it with the first four hits doing 1917... i guess it does it as separate damage instances though since its true damage rather than physical damage like the normal hit?

[limpid siren]

i think the play is to borrow a big ch'en the holungday
work towards an opening that uses someone like cutter and maybe like spot? to get through the initial wave of crabs/casters

meanwhile set up something like this on the far right
phase two bloodknight will kill your blockers, it can't really be helped, he hits for like 3300 damage and has a 6s atk interval
(spot will barely survive a hit in phase one if he's at full hp)

i'd recommend bringing projekt red and gravel, and any other corpses to throw at him for phase two and just try to slow him down for long enough to cope

what's difficult is that to enter phase two, you have to keep enough blood blades off him for 60s, and you're not really equipped to do this well without sacrificing both of the proposed burst units

one of the common low level strats is to use an e1 shaw alongside a couple blockers to force the blood blades to reroute, but that involves investment that i'm not sure you can afford

someone mentioned Lee, who is a pretty good unit for handling the blood blades by himself

so here's an alternate set up you might consider

it also shows where you'd sandwich the boss for phase one

again, your blockers will die, and the idea is he'd then get blocked by mlynar (who might die), lose his DR, and (hopefully) get killed by mlynar in time

you can't preemptively add anyone into the 8 column during the revive phase, cause they'll just die to the blood blades that Lee is bumping into that lane

you may also consider a third medic

re the opening, i really don't know sry
myrtle into cutter is maybe too slow, but something like that sounds the best for now

maybe projekt red into cutter just through natural dp?? idk

but you'll want a vanguard down at some point to help ease early dp

[elder flume]

wdym with first four hits doing 1917
for damage to turn into scarlet number they must first go through 1.5x attack damage

[storm current]

the true dmg isnt included per hit btw

[fringe hedge]

but its the same number the first hit to the rest in the vid that mylnar's doktor had linked o:

ah thats what i was curious about thanks 90ed

wasn't showing any numbers behind the hit so wasn't sure if it just doesn't get shown or if it was somethign else

[lethal dragon]

Pretty sure true dmg is an extra hit

[fringe hedge]

then it should show up as overlapping values as if two ops hit an enemy at same time?

[lethal dragon]

Red Numbers only show up if there's an atk scale in calculation afaik

[elder flume]

mlynar s3 wording is weirdge

so if i have 5 kazi does it go to 1.6x true damage

which then would create scarlet number

i assume thats not it

[fringe hedge]

the way its written... it almost sounds like its actually that enemies that get hit by other kazimiers than mylnar take 12% of mylnar's atk as true damage when the other operators hit the enemies in range

[limpid siren]

can be dmg_scale

red numbers pop when the actual damage is 1.5* the expected damage

[glass monolith]

Uh it is not summing up it is separate hits i think

[elder flume]

weirdge

[lethal dragon]

Oh ic ic

[fringe hedge]

the way its written almost makes me think it really is that similar to his talen of reflecting, that not only his hits but any kazimier hits just do a 12% hit of his attack

[flint laurel]

What is expected dmg?

Is it just atk - res/def?

@scarlet fulcrum can you answer instead of reacting?

[limpid siren]

yeah

game looks at what the damage should be as you said

[scarlet fulcrum]

U answered urself

[limpid siren]

atk_scale and dmg_scale come after the def/res check

well

that's a lie

atk_scale is before

but the game doesn't 'see' it

until it's actually calcing the damage

[flint laurel]

I see

Insteresting

[elder flume]

do i wana test mlynar

[lethal dragon]

What's the confusion

[fringe hedge]

the way its written, it does the 12% on each hit of every kazimier individually... so i guess FartoothS2 might be pretty handy paired with Mylnar?

[lethal dragon]

Meh building around this synergy isn't worth

Please don't

[fringe hedge]

for boss killing atleast

[lethal dragon]

Ppls see true dmg go awooga

[somber falcon]

How would they even synergize?

[elder flume]

welp my plan doesnt work

[fringe hedge]

was more just the idea of Fartooth having +110 aspd with each hit doing 12% true damage of mylnar's atk

[formal moss]

dear strategy, what is scary in this stage?

[somber falcon]

Mlynar's talent is a reflect, not an additional dmg on operator's attack

[lethal dragon]

Bottom lane
Upper lane will need 2 snipers and a defender for bait

Lot of Nightzmora in bottom lane with candles

[fringe hedge]

the way the S3 is worded, when active, any hits to enemies by kazimiers in Mylnar's range take 12% of his atk as true damage when hit

[lethal dragon]

It's about S3 not talent

[somber falcon]

Ah

Mb

[lethal dragon]

12% of młynar atk is too little to care about

It's just meme thing

[elder flume]

meh i cant get it to 1.5x

theres no pure damage modifier other than is2 rite

[formal moss]

I'm using mlynar so i can't rlly use defenders as bait

[lethal dragon]

Yeah 150% Dmg increase

[formal moss]

it will be fine right? as long as i use a wandering medic

[lethal dragon]

Młynar goes to bottom line
A healing Defender goes to upmost tile to keep snipers safe

@formal moss there's only crossbowmen and assassins on upper side and they stroll around up and dow so you can just leave it to two sniper or even one but need a bait or your sniper will die

Bottom lane has Nightzmora candles defenders etc

[latent anvil]

Oops I fell asleep accepted now

[terse crag]

Yo in NL S 4 there's a way to push dikaio into the pit with Weedy and Ange but you need him on the very edge of the block first
does anyone remember how to do that because I've forgotten

[pure orchid]

i havent seen S4 yet but if i had to guess, you have to block him first

[terse crag]

Yeah you have to. I've done that but he's still p heavy. Weedy S3M3 only pushes around half a block with Ange's S3 active as well
the strategy involved using an op to push him to the top of the block first but Ive forgotten how to do that

[latent anvil]

"Found a meme from last year" https://i.imgur.com/zmTj6Q2.mp4

Copied text from salt mines

[terse crag]

omg this is it

lmfao thank you

[pure orchid]

yeah, block him in that specific way

damn im so good that i know the answer without even seeing the stage

[elder flume]

tldr its block 2 > shift block > push

[terse crag]

yeah because it moves them around to prevent stacking

I remembered you had to do something like that but I forgot what it was exactly

[pure orchid]

do we have a puller with the shift strength of weedy?

[soft crystal]

Huh i did thorns 5 guard A on sss and it worked

[elder flume]

closest you get is snowsant

any closer than that its stage mechanics

[pure orchid]

snowsant? interesting
thanks rainchan

[terse crag]

got em

[glass monolith]

Imagine being champion in tournament for 3 years streak and then rat makes you slip on wet floor and commit quick change of elevation

[latent anvil]

Fell down the sewer

[glass monolith]

wait you can cancel black ice?

[elder flume]

well

yeah

[vital arrow]

how fat is FNF again

[elder flume]

6

[pure orchid]

bro went like "shut up, i need this tile and you're not taking it from me"

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh good old gentle nudge

[pure orchid]

they moved her fat ass by a mere micrometer

[scarlet fulcrum]

Rainchan did it with feater in old days iirc

[elder flume]

pre nerf snowsant just neglected shift rules and applied guaranteed unbalance

[pure orchid]

they nerfed her??

[elder flume]

that gif above is pre nerf

[scarlet fulcrum]

They fix her in CN?

[elder flume]

ye

[pure orchid]

poor shift ops eating less than 1 meal a day

[elder flume]

i think when snow entered en she was alr in nerfed form

[scarlet fulcrum]

As expected, too many things nerfed here

[storm current]

considered its in chinese

prob patched

[waxen swan]

Did my sss

I can feel the stagnant already

[scarlet ledge]

imagine playing sss

😭

[glass monolith]

did LT-8, LT-3, LT-1 because fuck doing LT-4 twice

[vernal lion]

imagine not farm for module

[glass monolith]

I still didn't max Kroos and April modules

Need more dead weeks

[limpid siren]

still missing greythroat module

probably won't do that one until someone forces me

[lethal dragon]

I force you

[limpid siren]

[latent anvil]

[limpid siren]

man corroserum mastery is so bad

but he's now the last idiot i have raised with no mastery

[glass monolith]

Are there attack speed relics in IS3?

[limpid siren]

yea

iirc golden chalice isn't in it anymore

[glass monolith]

Aciddrop, time to do jelly fish salad

[limpid siren]

but lv1 and lv2 should still be there

[lethal dragon]

Oh fuck

[latent anvil]

not the chalice

[glass monolith]

Sad part - Chaliceless
Good part - Shop robbery

[vernal lion]

I cannot rob Cannot if Cannot cannot give me what I cannot get from Cannot

[limpid siren]

[scarlet ledge]

i have s1m3 coro

coro good

ifrit shit

[latent anvil]

[scarlet ledge]

wtf wgz lol player

[limpid siren]

no shot

corroserum is barely usable

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/655857318495518730.png

[latent anvil]

at least im good at the game

if i was bad then itd be unacceptable i agree

[soft topaz]

Help?

[astral oyster]

@soft topaz ask strat here

ill help the best i can

[pure orchid]

🫡

i will merely watch with great interest

[astral oyster]

ill try to mimic your team as best as i can

[soft topaz]

I am now

[astral oyster]

can u share levels?

i wanna make sure i dont use overleveled stuff

[pure orchid]

@soft topaz here's a general guide

i think mountain and amiya can hold the right side of the neon light

and then you can put mlynar directly on the left of the neon light face up

and then cuora on top of mlynar, and then gummy on cuora's left

place your medics, lapp, and don't forget to activate your skills

mlynar will need quite a bit of healing cus he'll taunt the boss' mapwide skill

as well as cuora+gummy

basically focus your medics in the middle

[astral oyster]

this is the stun boss correct?

[soft topaz]

How? (and yes stun boss)

[pure orchid]

yeah, with dot arts dmg

[astral oyster]

just screenshot ur team

[pure orchid]

can you level 40 your mlynar and mountain

also can you replace amiya with steward? if not possible then at least level her to 50 along with siege and angelina

and why fang, no myrtle?

[soft topaz]

I dont have myrtle but luckily I got maxed steward already

[pure orchid]

anyways try this and then you can get back to us when u have a problem

[astral oyster]

not exactly the same but i will not use warf s2 i will just depend on her normal heal

[soft topaz]

Its super hard

[pure orchid]

i think u lack proper vanguards

[astral oyster]

tbh these 2 are the closest i can to copy his team

i wont use skill

so i will have less dps

[soft topaz]

I managed to knock him down twice but he kept healing and became def stronger? idk

[pure orchid]

no fang?

that is interesting

[astral oyster]

i forgor

[pure orchid]

vanilla can kinda substitute for siege too i guess

[turbid badge]

samwich

[pure orchid]

also idk about mudrock being a substitute for mountain

mudrock is a lot tankier

[soft topaz]

What charecter banner would benefit my account?

[astral oyster]

thats why i use pluma first

mud mud is just there

[pure orchid]

right, pluma

didnt see her there

whats with the pink pedo fox tho

[turbid badge]

who do u plaxe with mountain

[soft topaz]

lol kroos

[elder flume]

Scene and skalter lose their skills for a bit until it recharges again

[pure orchid]

he already has kroos

[astral oyster]

dont have arts caster its the best substitue i have with s1

[zealous cradle]

is that not visual

im 99% sure it is

[elder flume]

Nope its gameplay difference

[pure orchid]

damn not even steward??

[turbid badge]

did u try the others

[zealous cradle]

how do you not have steward

[astral oyster]

e1 lvl 1 yea should be enuf

[elder flume]

Well i tried this batch

[turbid badge]

oh

what map is that

[astral oyster]

close enough?

yea should be close enough

[elder flume]

Quercus gets to use her skill again immediately but if shes alr healing then it cancels her current attack with another attack

[soft topaz]

Yes

[elder flume]

Ce2

[pure orchid]

[astral oyster]

@soft topaz this can stall his 1st phase to not let the blades pass just use mountain facing down

my vg are too weak

ill try to use mud mud to stimulate i guess

[pure orchid]

vg cring

[astral oyster]

sry my potato farmer not cringe

[rocky anvil]

Does Roy and Monique deals physical or arts damage?

[pure orchid]

😔

[astral oyster]

physical its thier corrosion that hits hard

[pure orchid]

damage is physical unless stated otherwise

[scarlet mortar]

they're just big lazurites

[pure orchid]

@soft topaz any progress?

[astral oyster]

@soft topaz phase 1 u can replace guardmiya with anyone since she is there just for vision

open mylnar skill when 2 bagstabbers arrive

and this can stall boss phase 1

replace mud with mountain facing down

[turbid badge]

lol all the orange is satsifying

[astral oyster]

after boss revive and i frame finish then use mlynar skill

dont use it any earlier

or u will die

[elder flume]

Platinum thorns blaze are normal animation replay

I think absinthe also included

Not sure about the rest

How you gonna test weedy

[soft topaz]

am failing

[astral oyster]

@soft topaz use ptilo skill when nesccary

[hidden spade]

might need to level Mlynar a bit and borrow a Kaltsit but I followed this guide and was able to beat it with minimal investment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjJ9ZCCrhbM

[astral oyster]

killed the boss ezpz

some of them may die soo adapt accordingly

@soft topaz

welp i done what i can

it up to lingwalker himself now i guess

la pluma can be replaced by fast rdp since she just dies

time to go spread misinfo in #help again

[pure orchid]

man didnt even come back here smh

[gentle finch]

it b like thatn

[astral oyster]

smh i used too much brain power for him

[pure orchid]

tbh i didn't have high hopes when he wasn't updating anymore

[astral oyster]

i didnt thought kroos was useless

tbh

against the boss

and lapluma is too squishy to tank the blades

[soft crystal]

Surtr hospital in carrot mine anyone?

[soft topaz]

I did it

but with support unit..

[astral oyster]

mf literally just ignore my advice

i did it with your units withou support

[soft topaz]

Ik but I managed to kill it without support but I just let the boss go... and killed the rest

[astral oyster]

i didnt

i killed it

[turbid badge]

u leaked boss?

what

[astral oyster]

i alrd gave u a step by step guide

and u choose to ignore it

[scarlet mortar]

Users are under no obligation to follow the advice given in this channel
real

[astral oyster]

10/10

[soft topaz]

Im still trying it without support...

[scarlet mortar]

we can't really help you if you don't show where/how you're failing

[astral oyster]

if u scroll up u can see i replicated his team and is using lower lvl i cant help if en cant read

[soft topaz]

I did it...

Next chapter I guess..

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nice mountain placement

[coral jacinth]

Is nl ex 4 cm even possible

[lethal dragon]

All you need to do is use the tiles on right side and put a sniper there

You can also borrow lee for mobs handling he got taunt and dodge

[wanton torrent]

With the texalter banner around the corner. Do you think potentials are better on texalter or kirinXyato?
I have 8 royal tokens and dont know what exactly to do with them

[elder flume]

yato doesnt come back so u can put it on her

[latent anvil]

texalter sparkable, kirito not, but sexas is probably stronger and more used

[gentle finch]

why would u spark Texas for pots

in practice they're both basically not coming back

[latent anvil]

texalter can be on other banner, kirito not... that better way to put it

you can get spooked by one

[gentle finch]

copium

@wanton torrent if ur pulling for pots then I'd wait until Kirito to see how much pots u get for her then decide

if ur just pulling until one copy then give both one pot

[latent anvil]

in all honesty is almost certainly doesnt matter unless you're high risk cc player, in which texas is prob better

so just put them on whoever you like more

[frigid kite]

Texalter and probably Yato are the only operators i'd say yeah, pots are that much useful, get these if you can

Oh and surtr

[vital arrow]

Mlynar

[frigid kite]

Idk how much of a boost he gets with pot so can't say

[void zenith]

Is it too much to ask for someone to get on my account to beat NL8 for me ? I don't even feel like playing because I can't finish it properly.

[latent anvil]

😂

[frigid kite]

💀

[zealous cradle]

kirin has a much easier pity though

120 is literally like a third of texas

[frigid kite]

@void zenith share your team

[latent anvil]

i will probably end up using forbidden 💳 technique

[void zenith]

All my ops or what I'm trying to beat it with ?

[frigid kite]

Both

Only need a pic of the strongest btw

Like most leveled

[void zenith]

Squad

Rest of them

[frigid kite]

Mhm

Any borrow?

[void zenith]

I don't think I'm making it to NL9 or NL10 so I want to atleast farm NL8

So been trying to do it without a support

[frigid kite]

Ah it's NL8

Easy

Want a tip or want a clear?

[void zenith]

I need a lower DP caster, I think but I'm broke

[frigid kite]

You can do all btw

[zealous cradle]

use steward

e1 for base and hes ok

[void zenith]

Don't have the LMD, but was lvling Click to use her

Well, got her to E1 LVL1

[void zenith]

I tried both trying to kill the boss in the middle and also waiting for him to move but first one I don't have the DPS and second one, everyone just gets killed from his ability

[latent monolith]

You can place your ops in a way to avoid his ability though

His ability is used on everyone that has a dark tile behind them so just make sure nobody has dark tiles behind

[elder flume]

Is bk slash range always 1.5 tile

I assume it goes for last deployed

[vital arrow]

I thought it's 1.3?

[frigid kite]

@void zenith

Replace Spot with Cuora, Ansel with Myrrh and put Nightingale where the medic is, Specter instead of. Melantha and Astgenne instead of Lava, Amiya helping Midnight

And that should be all

Using exu is optional

Specter where Popukar is*

When the red guy starts walking, use Skill, S2

If Midnight leaks, help him with Sideroca

Shouldn't leak thought

PD: you can try also just killing him with specter before he walks

[void zenith]

Midnight looking to the bottom ? Guessing it took you more than 1 try to show me this because he's facing 2 directions.

[glass monolith]

Nobody:
My fucking NL-8 auto: IT IS DESYNCING TIME

[latent anvil]

how it so easy to trust farm too

[frigid kite]

Yup

The correct one is looking down sorry

[glass monolith]

Well right side "not" sleeper dude didn't take any of that

[frigid kite]

He's looking down so he can support any other Operstor you want to put in front of him

If he's leaking

So you can fix it that way

[void zenith]

Alright and I place Specter after the boss walks away to the next area ?

I'll keep trying, just demotivating to keep losing that 1 morale over and over again

[frigid kite]

Yup, Specter will kill everything that comes up to mid don't worry

She doesn't even need healer because she's E2, i tried it already

When you deploy her just use her skill asap

And she will kill Tola (the red guy)

[void zenith]

I'm a bit worried about DP, Astgenne takes so much to deploy

I'll ask more after I tried it a few times, thanks for the help nonetheless

[glass monolith]

I still wait for "how to easy right side without registration and SMS"

[frigid kite]

You can also try: Fang, then Midnight followed by Astgenne and lastly a healer

You have a lot, a lot of time

After the healer, put Exu helping fang

When the first big guy comes, put Cuora and then a healer

I'd recommend Myrrh, and Nightingale to the other side

After Exu skill ends, put Amiya and then specter

I did all that with only Vanilla so you shouldn't have much problem

[void zenith]

So Myrrh to the right and Nigh left ?

[frigid kite]

Right side big guys hit hard

Cuora should tank them with easy while ON skill

[glass monolith]

i had NTR S3 killing them but game decided to be yostar and desync

[frigid kite]

Ntr fell off so sad

[glass monolith]

Wait... What will happen if i mudrock right side?

[latent anvil]

i dont get it

chalt + 1 blocker for like 10 seconds is enough for entire right side

[glass monolith]

I refuse to chalter or ling

[latent anvil]

clean auto farms are all i care about

[void zenith]

My right side keeps leaking

[latent anvil]

that sounds rather concerning

[void zenith]

Uploading a MP4 of it

Oh nvm

I see where I fucked up, I placed Astgenne on the wrong spot and she got killed

at 2:30

[latent anvil]

put someone on top of myrhh face down

[frigid kite]

Exu

[latent anvil]

at like 13 kills

[frigid kite]

And then Astgenne

[latent anvil]

u lack dmg on right side

just place dmg faster and youll be fine

you have enough dp earlier, and also when you leaked at 15 kills you could place beagle

[frigid kite]

And, btw

[latent anvil]

but yeah just place dps on right faster

[frigid kite]

You can also put Astgenne on the left side

And Amiya on the right side

[latent anvil]

dont let ur units get backstabbed, keep their backs in the light

[lethal dragon]

@elder flume
https://youtu.be/zDKj0PgcIVY

[frigid kite]

Spoilers

[scarlet fulcrum]

They forgor

[void zenith]

I don't think I have enough DPS with Amiya on the right side

[frigid kite]

You also added Exu?

[void zenith]

No, I gave up on the idea of having Amiya on the right side

[frigid kite]

Pretty damn close

Alright, Amiya doesn't need to be healed, put NG looking up

So this guy won't die