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🤦♂️ that's NL-10 the stage I was playing is NL-S-4 CM
Push the boss with weedy into the hole 
Ouh sorry i dont read it
Eh it's fine dw
How about just Chalter it?
Those blade have High RES so no wonder surtr won't cut it
Mr lee will be able to handle those blades
place him where you place młynar
is NL-9 and NL-10 even possible without E2?
Nl9 is quite easy
Nl10 is mostly stall
You mainly use art for dps
You can borrow to clear NL9
If you stall for NL10 then auto farm may not be fun
as long as i finish ONE major event, then I'm satisfied
...tho I'm gonna be malding on the extra stages
Just make sure you buy out the shop
The event reran
It mean after this end
It will go into archive
And you can mald later
What you miss are just medals
Why is there a force tile there 
They intend to make us to use puller, and we instead just onga bonga all the way 

I still wonder
its either to elongate sleepy dudes path or reduce sniper atk stack
which doesnt really make much sense
afaik cannon also doesnt proc and feater doesnt reach so

pushing right at least
so theoretically
its for mostima
as it just fits her spot
or mint.
cursed thought.
Do the job searches reset daily, or is it just those until the event is over?
daily
So how on Earth do you do this challenge
Leak mob 3 enemies in
whats ur placement 
Myrtle mountain
expensive ops
On btm left box
mountain waking up sleeper?
Ya
Mountain cant duel the sleepers?
or try to spawnkill those aids archers instead tanking them for entire map 
Maybe change ur deploy order so the snipers wont fill up corrosion bar on ur healers
yes
you dont need a knight crest for top lane
use that knight crest for bottom right archer spawn
point mountain upwards
How about Place mountain at bottom right so he can kill Archer, and place Blaze in bottom lane facing up for Dual lane holder
And put defender at Top lane and make sure Blaze can attack the blocked enemy
I kinda forgot I used mlynar on this map so he just tanked everything
man what a convenient op
his taunt is mostly cursed but convenient on rare case
Wym too front
Where???
place myrtle here instead
I REALLY love Mlynar. He makes aggro really easy
really carries the BK blood spell and Lazurites
you lighted the sleeping knight

so they woke up
just change the facing
if you cant put mountain in time just put canta and replace with mountain after left side is secured 
too many things happening 
but he can put mountain in time
he has 18 dp
he just woke those mobs too early
btw is it possible to solo ling this map?
me using double taunt with lee

try it 
first time seeing that CMs never have autos. I was thinking if my past self made an EX-8 CM auto
fuck why hole-ing him actually need some effort (even if minimal) 
Did you do it
on practice
Yes
It is
I have mlynar reflect damage him so his blade don't get in way by being NOMed
if myrtle leaks, use cantabile
you are gonna have to leave the first archer alone, and it's just gonna snipe unhindered
hahahah, is that S-4?
wait wtf
I didnt' know you can deploy gladiia on a ranged tile
Cm yeah
Pullers and Pushers can be deployed on any tile
💀 wtf
Its written in their trait
shows how little I use pushers/pullers 
I just used cant killed the archer
All pushers and pullers are deployable on ranged tiles
Learn from rainC smh
Mountain and blaze hold
shifters kina break sleepers
how the fuck? 
Invis reveal on them also breaks them
You droped SA on right side pulled them quickly and recalled him?
I discovered it while using horn S1
It is not "broken" it is their effect - no light, no fucks given
Scene 
scene gives reveal without opening light
Who pulled them upwards still open question
Well all reveal ops can do that, except SA may have some range issues
Tell it to S-2 
8-9 frames of pulling and they land in operator attack range but not blocked
so they get attacked without fighting back 
What is S3 I haven't even done NL10 yet
SA easily kill them in canta tile
S-2 is clusterfuck closet.
S-2 CM is clusterfuck closet but you are outside closet
is that the one where there's a lot of sleeping knights and you're only given knight's crest?
I don't remember using SA
Well it is 10 times easier to just slash them than have an actual plan around them
Who i even used to 1v1 them in CM 
Fucking lack of auto for CM hurts 
just surtr it
I dont remember using 6* 
Friend support surtr was possibility of how i did that stage
I remember few ppl using utage and grabel back then
lee vs ergate was pretty fun
TN-1 truly
lee vs ergate was pretty fun
The rotating guards can be bundled up but they only last 4 rotations 
sora gaming!!!
oh this stage
Add some
then for drones
No need for vg, he has tony the tiger
Just wait then
Nvm I just won
Farm event imo
nl-s-3 genuinely makes me want to cry because i dont have ng and having tactical nukes dropped on me every 15s is bringing back cc8 trauma
weirdge
Oh ergate stage
dorothy was pretty good for the ergates 
u can just spam her traps around the light thing and they'll die slowly
mine was in shaw's position facing right
Help... S5-3
@soft topaz https://youtu.be/ennTb0SWUfE
Oh fudge u were already donelmao
Welp no use to this
The link doesn't work lmao 
Haha I won it already

We did like the same tactic
welp should've just made it a image 💀
Yea... lmao
do u still need help?
Yup
i thought ur gonna get the crystal Recipe?
I did, I finished it but the previous branch I skipped so I need help
kk i made smth lemme just get a ss
that should work
just let ur vangaurds sit there blocking both sides while setting up
What's the best way to deal with the buffed Bloodblade in NL-EX-8 CM?
chalter or shifter to push them to other side and let them leak into ur blue box
Oh it didn't reduce HP seal?
shifter changes their pathing, they don't auto path towards teh boss
no blades dont reduce hp seal
Ok i'm gonna try that
Outside of Dorothy and Bloodblade i am not sure we had any enemies who can be leaked freely
Does Nl-9 have any of the super elites
rip bozo
does bk have a crit hit and non crit
I guess I’ll just pray nl-9 doesn’t have lazulites 
Oh, i really dont like NL-S-5 
nl-9 doesn't have lazulites
does it have the boss
no
NL-S-5 is either you spawncamp or you suffer 
No, lots enemy with all those lazurite sniper with 2 named leader (Monique and Roy)
rip
i mean you can use healers but if you arent spawncamp you have to cycle a bunch of defender
cuz all ur defenders defense will go to 0 and die
Anyways good luck on it if you haven't cleared already
Man it is hard to be bloodknight. One day you are 3 years in row champion, other day you fail to oneshot e1 1 gravel and go hole
yea i didnt realize lumen removes stun, actually quite useful bailout sometimes
wonder if he can cool my phone, it got really hot on s4 and s5 
he doesnt if its lee
cause lees immune to stuns
idk if he even removes the arts dot in the first place
is the stun and the art dot the same thing
but i dont see it happen
Nah lumen can't remove arts dot
ill just test it rn 
what kinda supp you want
man
p6 maweener
I guess sandwiching boss with fishes is also kinda braindead
yea i just tested it the arts dot is not removed but the stun is
mlynar 
wonder whats the limit
on the timer
this is like my 6th refresh for the 1 minute one
why pot6 mlynar
at least taht was the longest that they saw
because its pot 6
does ur friend have one
refreshing for something you dont have 
llmao

stinky sa max pot...
just go do 1-7 with a different support
dont need u anymore
and then refresh after
whenever my supoprt units are stuck i just use them once and then theyre fixed i think
at least they rotate out
im curious when the 1 minute timer increases

can HG make it just cycle through all ur supports or something
new support system is good but mostly suck
ffs
i dont even get a single mlynar

just go 1-7 
oh found it
Do i need the 200 hp to survive bk p2 
im doing nm
Free max młynar pogu
shining requires an extra 120s ish to join lee healing gang
so he needs to stay alive till then
dumbass of course i did
so bad
Skill level also m3?

Oh makes sense
Otherwise #help told me that młynar is the strongest operator can kill anything
nah mlynar fell off
hes pretty shit
he just sits there
Just like GG,
Trust is really important for those low atk base
Cringe
He really needs a rework
so weird
Same lol
I was thinking “why is he playing budget cc8”
dumb design...
like they should make the enemies at least be able to target him
like who does he think he is, reading a newspaper in the middle of a fight
so bad
I was like "how tf młynar is deployed there
That's supposed to be a ranged tile"
🧎
Huh why was bk invincible
Weakling

froim p1 to p2 there is invis phase
Bruh
i forgor how to spawncamp s5 
just do until u finish all ex and s stages

not that hard right?
I will at home
Work ending in 20mins
So I’ll just hold it off for home
alone? 
may I join?
Allnighter tonight anyways cuz night shift tomorrow 
Man wtf
I literally killed blood dude 10 times in ex 8 cm before realising he goes back to phase 1 if he gets to full hp again 
yes, so dont let him get the blades then 
if he gets back to full hp he will revive infinite time
Is it possible to oneshot him in both phases
Yes
if by oneshot you mean one cycle they yes, he doesn't have to revive once
Mf
I’m just thinking smth like
So damn irritating
Surtr mlynar pozemka
Literally had to borrow chapter for this fucker
If it’d be enough
More than enough
The boss isn't the problem
That red blade is
What is then 
That shit is so damn tough to take down in cm
Boss gets back to phase 1, kill him again, goes back to red blade shit
dswopey
Right


nah tbh just use chalt
And bringing chalter
She made the stage a breeze lul
Btw, how tf do I get to s stages?
Ya can leak those blood blade to blue box iirc
I can't seem to access it
I mean I remember blood knight anni
do the tasks
It wasn’t that bad
and get everything to admired
Unless anni is like super nerfed bk
why is nl ex8 cm hard again
Both are at 17 each
itll take time, and make sure you have enough to max everything else you dont get medal set
there is a third one as well
Complete all S stages and it jumps straight to 39
it just makes all the blades have tons of hp
Unkillable if not chalter*
(Trim medal need all 3 reach 50)
hmmm like is it actually hard
I have not tried going past nl8
it's lazy time
Btw I don’t remember much from bk anni - the boss stuns and dots last deployed regardless if blocked right
Yup
No wait
If blocked
It stuns the one it's attacking
If not, then the last deployed
Btw
Are the S stages hard?
I feel ya, quite hard
But you can push BK into hole at S-4 
don't you just block the boss and kill him
while not letting the blades get to the boss
No ange and weedy

Yes
Cringe wtf
Gravel abuse

shouldn't it be easy then 
Try ex 8 cm
You'll understand
Those blade fuckers literally ate through mudmud and any defender I threw at it
uh, i think people dont like s3 and s5
s5 is annoying because you have to rush to spawncamp, or cycle tons of defender
All the while ptilopsis and sussoro skill were active for defenders
s3 is just nightingale check
Vivianna?
Ya 4 in one (last wave)

I think I saw the video for this
This seemed fun lol
If there was no light mechanic
This’d probably be the best event stages so far from experience
Ngl, this event is the most fun one for me
i cant even beat base cuz i get fucking nuked half way across the map
Just gotta wait for SN rerun to see if it was entertaining or not
I really like the story of this event
But stage-wise IC beats it sadly
Also SN is in internezzi

By what specifically
literally everything from the left side
If it’s blue archers, they focus last deployed operator
lol i love bti mechanics
oh s3
Oh wait it is....

also is m6 canta viable
i feel like gamepress is way overrating s2 but ig thats just me
i mean i have bag but s1 feels like it plays into her helidrop role better
And can insta-activate with a bagpipe
kinda does though
It’s not on a timer
still needs to attack to actually generate dp
Is what I meant
It won’t be useless against spaced out first mobs
Like most stages like to do
do u have mlynar?
taunt works on them you can have someone like warfrain s1 healing while he tanks the fireballs and u can also bring bait to help if hes getting overwhelmed
wait mart yuo didnt pull for mlynar
i did
oh 
got this dumbass rat instead

at least i have a medal
i mean i was gonna pull for 1 6* and cope after, but my coping was pull until mlynar 
lost 4 50/50 before honse
bruh i still cant figure out how to rush s5 cm without dying 
use chalter
that holds one lane
maybe i shouldnt talk cuz ive not seen s-5 before
real
oh wow
cardirick
blaze is so op 😱
from helping middle so u can getcardigan last and helps mitigate the 4 caster wave
but I purposely remove him this time to show you
mud s2 + kal s3 solos it fine
just sandwich him between mud and mon2r so blood blade can't heal
those 3 ops can trust farm fine, bag's just there to light the spot to light up + generate dp
u can sub her with someine like courier and u should be fine
wtf
more useless than me
actualyl having a terrible time here
is that s2 ljmen
no i just didnt activate skill s3
oh lol
Wow, you can clear the crazy daily mission for this stage
4 vanguards 
lol i forgot ling got 3 sp whenever a summon died
Wow how op is goldenglow, turns out she's not useless and I can actually win that
Ah the blocks is gone 
dont tell me the cursed daily is not allowing blocks to break

oh ig i could move my hoshi to the left by one
and then turn ng around
but this is also in cm, and the daily is probably normal mode right?
loll yeah the no block break
Yeah no, even following your example NL-10 is kicking my ass
now how to do it without all the meta 6*... (also wtf when did that block break now im mad)
sus
lee vs blood blade
didnt u have like a level 90 kaltsit and mudrock 
my mud's only l60 s2m1, kaltsit is l7t s3m3
should be way easier for u
I managed to do it
But I was praying Mont3r to hold off until I could respawn Mudrock after she got hit
Did the ol Soviet Russia strat
The moment Mudrock got extracted, I sent whatever ops I had left to buffer the boss from smacking Mont3r while damaged boss
it was pain
Is it worth to E2 my Honeyberry for IS?
my lee survives with 4 healers
khant still waiting for an elemental healer male
lumen close enough 
lumen ain't helping against lazulites
You will miss any sound during Chongus before his voice quotes nerf 
Average Rat enjoyers assemble
the most confident men are broken the hardest by the gacha
such is the hardship of gacha addiction
Yes a slap in the fish
i lost 3 consecutive banners so far so luck should turn soon
surely
Done already?
Yea, I spammed Gravel, Red And Cantibile until it worked
Cool
rainchan
can you cook an egg on the back of w/e device ur using
it must get so hot with those frames
i desperately want to mos S3 that
its not as hot as recording auto deploy
mid heat
idk if i can change anyone for mostima
prob can if 13 ops
do they even live before mostima get skill
How do I kill the 2nd phase of this thing
Depends on what it eats
Literally burst damaged it so much and it's still getting through
If it eats the shield, kill with arts
If it eats the other thing, kill with physical
also it only attacks one so pick someone tanky and outheal the spit
if you can't burst it down that is
So far easy
but i picked the wrong skill fot gladiia
I used like a support 90 Surtr + Pozy s2 and Ch'en burst and it was still standing
Something ain't right 
...bruh
Probably what it ate
which stage is that
did it eat every buff 
S-5?
Remember that guy who did max risk cc3 on a Nokia
what skill
SN-10

bring gnosis
Lemme see if I can fins the video
watch it get permafrozen

me on S-5
as long as it doesn't eat status resistance and you have the right equipment
I actually had to mald S-5 a bit
permafreeze wasn't enough
for some reason
Fuck
no wait i'm thinking of EX-8
what should I feed to it assuming I'm bringing gnosis
Pozy S2 is the wrong
S-5 i didn't bother thinking
S3 need s2
Pozy S3 is the good
ohk
mb mistyped
lemme launch AK I'll tell you
s3, I meant
Maybe I need more damage
SN-10
Anything
Gnosis will permafreeze it anyways
Damn

learned it the hard way btw in S-5
cause it's the only stage I actually fed it to him

basically don't feed mushroom to boss
and you're fine
well there's that option too
as one does
i killed phase 3 and 4 with gummy
does sn10 have 4 phases too
SN-7 gates the endspeaker to phase 2
Ah true 💀
ok nvm I just give up on SN-10
Do you want help with it?
Chao
phase 4 is fiiine just nuke it
wait until he gets to S-4
where the whole carpet is covered in shit and you have multiple reefbreakers
Reefbreaker christmas party
it doesn't have any def/res up nor even any nervous impairment
phase 4 is free kinda
when it oneshots your mudrock
talking abt SN-10
oh
S-4 is uh
yh
I thought it was him replying

love it when mini-annihilation ft. a morbillion reefbreakers and spewers
Just bring 3 lapplands
i think that's the only stage in all of SN i abandoned the concept of having fun
and then the other side
just throws
50 mushrooms at you
very cool HG
well
the christmas trees weren't that problematic
when I was reminded
about this very cool operator named
s c e n e

Good thing we got Ines
it just so happened there were two perfect tiles for her drones to reveal christmas trees
Don't need to use 5* anymore
i used eunectus there
oh yh i used scene in the end for the reefbreaker side
god it was amazing seeinng i could just ignore a lane blemi+ eunectus
this to an extreme is DV-EX-5 CM defenderknights
best event mechanic
Thats one way to ignore them
is BK freeze immune or no
Best way to ignore SN-10 is to push boss into top left 
The actually important question is Can lumen heal BK's lock
It's not really stun so probably no
also yes, but the DoT remains iirc
Oh wait I am dumb
lee ignores it so lumen should be able to cleanse it
I thought bk means black Knight
About blood knight i can confirm since I tried it last night
Stun is cured but dot remains
no then
Guess so it's atk lock not stun after all
funny enough there is another event, with boss named black knight, which was back to back to NL event also techically related to NL (black knight was champion from long time ago) 
Lol
blue knight when
owait
if i leave lee stall for 30 mins
theres gona be a period where he no longer pushes 

false
its only visual
the skill is still active
is scene the only 60 mins skill operator then 
BirdKnight
?
all permanent skills slowly drain the duration bar but its only visual
if it does get to that point they just recast the animation and nothing actually happens
scene and terminals bypasses infinite no?
i am like 99% sure scene doesn’t but i guess i can try?

need help is NL-EX-8 challenge mode
Team
Any borrow?
who are you using for damage
yeah kal'tsit
💀
you have some of the best units in the game why aren’t you bringing them 
I'll help ya with the clear
But yeah
When you follow guides
It's not 100% obligatory to use the units used on that
Just the way they are used
don’t follow a guide exactly if you’re going to follow a guide, bring better units if you have them
yeah im just not too smart, on what does the op do
if you always copy a guide exactly you probably won’t learn the mechanics or improve at the game
they can be helpful but you don’t want to depend on them too much
YT guides save RL sanity.
Thank god for them.

Time's also a relevant factor. The longer you play - the better you'll get. Even when you're a total numbskull, like meself.
*lazy numbskull
@vague scarab
Alright so: Saria is Mudrock and Hoshi is Liskarm, I didn't use those because I don't have, just an equivalent, when the blades come up, activate Mlynar skill and after him Pozy skill
And ptilopsis at the same time or Mlynar will get killed
Oh and when the two guys start coming, put Liskarm
Another thing, don't sleep on Gavialter skill or she will get killed 💀
You can add 4 more operators as your please
Maybe more defenders
This guy doesn't have lee
Who is he borrowing
Kalsit
Back in my day we were coping god damn shaw s2 
Hmm yeah that can help alot ^^
What an agonizing experience
Agonizing was figuring out why my NL-10 T% farm from before worked and the new one didn't no matter what.
Took me like 15 minutes to realize he needs to be curbstomped (Sash'-Suzu'-Surtr) before he reaches the 3rd tile otherwise he'll start feeding.
SMH
Ive made a Abysalhunter Team and its realy fun. So I wanted to ask you guys if its also fun to play a Kazimierz teamcomp with mylnier talent?
No
no
kazi is only fun with the kazi modules
mlynars talent is jsut a funny little boost nothing too significant
Mlynar and Gavialter Rotation works great here. (I mean it works everywhere).
Their rotation is just so good on clearing Mobs and Bosses alike.
I just killed all the blades with them. Lol.
Gavial dies in cm
Kazimierz is more fun than AH simply for feeling like you actually cleared a stage
thats what i said (for rains phone)
Kazimierz's team fun can be found on using Mlynar and NTRK
but AH doesn't have mlynar delete half the screen button

truly green name debuff
They're so strong that they kill anything anyways without needing a screen wipe

Pada desch
Ok, anni3 goes very well but I'm not sure of how to time eyjas skll, do I wait for the second def crusher to go in so I can hit 2 birds or do I kill the first one?
Can you kill the 2nd one w/o her?
cuora get stunned but I can pull it off with some bs
first one definitely dies tho
I have an extra defender, can that be used to stall the def crusher?
Alright, here are some things you can think of:
1.- You kill 1st and have the skill again for when the next wave of Heavies come
2.- Enemies with the 2nd Heavies leak
3.- You kill both with just one skill
still requires more planning than just pressing a delete button

AH nights is like 5 ops, kazimierz is like 10
And clearly they don't need more than 5 ops
Not sure if this is the right channel, but would Proviso w/module be worth using to buff up mylnar a teensy bit more?
i dont even think proviso with mod has enough aspd for there to be any real benefit
Use Shamare instead
yeh but it's still much harder trying to clear stages with only 4ops than with 10 
The 8% atk buff wouldn't be enough to notice or would work outside of his own atk buff I guess?
wait she has atk? i thought it was only aspd
Mod adds the atk buff
She gives another kazimier operator 10 aspd and 8%atk when she has the module o:
On base it doesnt give atk
But really mlynar already has +400% atk
Does it even matter to get 8% more?
I mean depending on if it was affected before or after, if it happens at same time wouldnt be much
eh isn't mlynar atk scale?
he has quadrupled attack on s3 and like 160% atk scale i think?
none of it is +atk%
which is why his damage is so stupid cuz we all know combining atk buffs and atk scale is balanced™️
His trait is +200% atk which gets x2d by his s3
so some +atk buff should scale pretty well
Then theres also atk scale
his trait is literally free atk buffing though
So basically 8% more atk is just 8% on top of his 500% atk from trait
Which is slightly more than 1% dps increase
oh trait. i was reading talent 
Basically warfarin sux for mlynar, well its still okay
isnt skalter factored after trait though
Yes
So more like Aak works well with him then?
Aak is best yes
because +50 aspd is actually noticeable
Skalter adds like 500 atk to mlynar which in total adds like 900~ damage per hit
debuff/amp is probably worth more
but it's a cold day in hell when you need anything for him
I think warf would like add only like 300~ atk
Man. Husbandoknights dominating the game now. Lol
time to play femaleknights like that one video 
Well, i had lots of fun using Surtr, Mudrock and Chalter.
They go brrr
Skalter too
Ling too
wasn't sure exactly how the dmg would go with proviso was why was asking, wasnt sure if it was gonna make it 108% that would then be quadrupled, if it would end up 408%, or if it would end up the 400 that would be increased by 8% afterwards
sounds like it is supposed to be the 408 though
the way you guys talked about it
No its just 8% on top of his + atk
+atk% buffs are all additive and add on top of each other
Never multiplied
+atk% buffs get multiplied by atk scale skills and talents which say does "180% of his atk" for example
So Sklater is not that impactful for Mlunar too then.
Yeah
Well, she heals him, gives him defense and free attack
If youre adding skalter s2 youre adding in luke extra 500 damage per swing of his s3
Its not bad though
500 is a good ammount
it's not enough to warrant using an extra slot
ty for the info btw
Well, that if she would only heal Mlynar
mlynar already hits for 4k
500 more just isn't much
If its passive and also buffs your gav, marksmen, healer maybr and everyone else its fine 
that's a different question though
12.5% more overkill
I mean
that slot could be filled by another DPS unit
or a debuffer that increase Damage by far more
Or you can use her to replace a healer (if it's already being used), if not, sure, another dps could be better anytime
yeah i forgot that theres some that apply fragile which would end up more than proviso in the longrun
mostly it's that using buffers in normal content is cringe 
Wtf
That w/o counting if you add her passive to buff someone like Exu
I bring skalter everywhere
i use warf a lot
Comfy
at some point we'll reach the conclusion that suzuran is a pretty good unit
then i forget to use s2
ngl suzuran is extremely based
is suzuran niche good status now
I always forget how good she is
but she is
cuz i dont use her outside of sss
She indeed is, indeed is 
was she ever not an insanely strong support?
fair enough
yeah it really just loops back to using buffer is cringe in 99% of content when you can just dps more lol
even crowd control is less cringe 
her skill so useful















