strategy

[civic nest]

being straight?!?! unbelievable

[inner cobalt]

Smh u guys assuming dome is a guy

[livid delta]

Ew a girl???

[latent anvil]

wtf shu

[turbid badge]

😯

[fresh copper]

All girls

[sly drift]

Any reason to raise cantabile if you aim for Ines?

[fresh copper]

Guys
In
Real
Life

[frigid kite]

Yes, having 2 Agents, also, we're 6 to 7 months up until her, a lot of time for not using a vanguard

[sly drift]

Hmm

Idk what's the most effective way to play Vanguard

[frigid kite]

Use them to generate dp

[sly drift]

I usually play myrtle

[frigid kite]

That's literally what they are for

There is also bagpipe S3

[sly drift]

Flagbearer + Bagpipe is definitely better than agents right?

It just that myrtle don't block and can't do damage

[turbid badge]

than go cantiable

cantabile

[frigid kite]

Yeah

Cantabile S2 + Bagpipe

[turbid badge]

she has a more fun playstyle if you dont like waiting like 2 seconds for 14 dp or if the map is rush heavy

[frigid kite]

Ines looks pretty broken anyways

Either you use her as a vanguard, as a dps, as a debuffer, as an upgrade to Cantabile, up to you

[sly drift]

If you have to choose would you use Cantabile + ines, Bagpipe + Saileach or Bagpipe + Ines for your general use

[frigid kite]

Bp + Ines

Bp + Saileach if you feel like her S3 would help more

[turbid badge]

lol bp thiught u meant blue poison

bag poop

[frigid kite]

Bought pretzels

[elder flume]

I barely have stages where putting myrtle first is bad

[turbid badge]

saileach s3 stun

[frigid kite]

More than the stun, i'd say the whole debuff

[turbid badge]

well in chapter 12 i dont think you’ll need to use much flags but yeah up to you on how you want to generate dp

[frigid kite]

I want to play hard episode 11 stages

[elder flume]

Use flags to show dominance

[turbid badge]

flag S

[sly drift]

Good thing if you have saga when eps12 come

[scarlet fulcrum]

Chill civies chill chapter

[gentle finch]

That was kind of annoying

Easier than I thought though

anyways all ch9 cms done

[turbid badge]

ill be like waterpallas enjoyer

🔥

[gentle finch]

wym

[civic nest]

now to EX stage

[turbid badge]

reap

[civic nest]

🔥

[turbid badge]

real

[gentle finch]

ex stage?

[turbid badge]

chapter 9 no free op right?

L

[gentle finch]

[civic nest]

i mean H

wth

[gentle finch]

I did all besides H9-6

[turbid badge]

do now

[gentle finch]

I haven't attempted it yet

[turbid badge]

not hard!

[civic nest]

true

[gentle finch]

I have to sleep early

[civic nest]

easy!!!

[gentle finch]

I'll try tommorow

!!

[civic nest]

gn

[gentle finch]

anyways I have some blooper shots

[turbid badge]

oki gn

[gentle finch]

i managed to deploy spalter at the ending

[turbid badge]

h9-4 is a very nice sends alot of enemies very quick

[gentle finch]

i was hoping her doll would kill

but it didn't

saddest moment of my life

[turbid badge]

h9-6*

just have fun with rock throwing and placement of operators

[gentle finch]

😨

[civic nest]

thorns didn’t need the help!

[gentle finch]

I'm not sleeping now now

I'll sleep in like 15 mins

[gentle finch]

gladiia needed to be deployed somewhere

[turbid badge]

people l ike mandragora so they make a killnest

[gentle finch]

so that this would work for phase one

she got trapped in red box

[turbid badge]

wtf did thron need glaadia

[gentle finch]

abyssals needed gladiia

or else no work

[turbid badge]

real

[gentle finch]

there was a run i killed mandra just fine

but i forgot Silverash skill

and leaked a flying rock

as the last enemy

[turbid badge]

damn that must hurr

[gentle finch]

this one hurt the most tbh

her hp bar is so low you can't even see the red

[turbid badge]

anyways e2 art op , luoxiao kinda nice can hit air , having to rely on leizi 24/7 isn’t fun

[gentle finch]

damn he hits air?

also that cat art is 🔥

is he a lord guard

[civic nest]

teta in game name leaked!!!!

[latent monolith]

Yeah he's a lord guard

[turbid badge]

yea

[civic nest]

he’s meh

[turbid badge]

lord range always good

[civic nest]

which is kinda sad

worse than arene 🪦

[turbid badge]

yea hes pretty mid when compared to the other lords (not counting the vulpo sitting in the fridge

[gentle finch]

xd

[turbid badge]

cat zoomed in!

[gentle finch]

Pallas in shot

[civic nest]

im gonna leak!?!

[gentle finch]

ok it's 12am now, gnite y'all

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[scarlet fulcrum]

His s1 cant hit drone btw

[frigid kite]

Why fear H9-6

Easy stage

[civic nest]

long

stage

fall asleep

😴

[scarlet ledge]

fear h9-6

if u have garbage lane holder

[turbid badge]

wow

just chalter it

[scarlet ledge]

@civic nest https://youtu.be/hIzLAu9TuBA

[civic nest]

pro!!

u should do bear tower

[scarlet ledge]

@civic nest farming 10-6 be like

[civic nest]

curse account real

[mighty fulcrum]

Read the pins... can't find it.. may have missed? I've googled and come across some answers but I'm not so sure when I tried it out? Who would be my go to status resistance healers? Mulberry, honeymberry, susurro, gavi, and lumen? I'm trying to do jtb-3 and just get wiped by that 2 hit fire balls... even tried using quick rdply to kite then balls of fire... I think I even saw a few other names when I googled?

[frigid kite]

?

[civic nest]

if ur doing jt8-3

use nightingale

[frigid kite]

Just go straight and ask

[mighty fulcrum]

That wave of fire 😏

But I don't have her

[civic nest]

borrowing

[frigid kite]

Either use her as support or find another way

[civic nest]

u can just retreat everyone if u want

[mighty fulcrum]

No friends either that have her and can't get her to pop, up, so I figured I'd ask who would be a good fit and listed...

[frigid kite]

Team

[turbid badge]

team

[civic nest]

bean

[frigid kite]

Mlynar bean for pfp

[turbid badge]

i thought it was feetus was typijg

[mighty fulcrum]

Oh I sealed it all out again, I was using kyo-semi team set up with his healers just less. Sorry if I'm asking questions wrong or something.

[turbid badge]

and it sayd fenny

[mighty fulcrum]

Brb

[frigid kite]

Nah just say something like "would you guys help me with this", Showcase of your strategy or map, maybe team, that should be it, don't worry about it

[mighty fulcrum]

Ok thank you. I was still interested in that question though even if I didn't have access to nightingale.. who would be next in line...

[latent monolith]

Mul honey are elemental healers, they don't cure statuses
Sus is a regular healer, just can output a lot of healing which could help against fireballs
Lumen/whisperain/purestream provide status resist on attacks which can help against talulah burning breath but other than purestream they don't really help fireball phase

Nightingale is the real solution

[mighty fulcrum]

Brb gonna set up the team I think I used

[latent monolith]

If you use lumen then you likely don't want S3 as unless you bait the burning breath (in which case just run a regular burst healer) his ammo just gets eaten up

[turbid badge]

yes

[mighty fulcrum]

I obviously need to lvl suss and gavi though. And I think I had mountain in there instead of someone else, either way. Yeah I guess I'm just a little confused on the resistance, and removing but I'm starting to see things like lumen can remove I believe (for example)

[turbid badge]

oh

wtf

[frigid kite]

Yeah silence isn't going to tank the hits

[civic nest]

exu skin

whel

why is gavial there again?

[turbid badge]

this is jt83 right

[mighty fulcrum]

Oh oh I had gravel and red and phantom in there to kite those

[elder flume]

still not sure why fireball problem would correlate with burn

[civic nest]

no like why did u use sussuro and gavial e0

[frigid kite]

Take Ptilopsis from support if you still can't find Nightingale and use her skills to tank the hits

[mighty fulcrum]

Hit that wave hit and i just watched it all go down lol. Oh I was just seeing what they did.

[latent monolith]

E0 medics are horrible for JT8-3

[mighty fulcrum]

The differences and messing with them, not in jt8.. nvm

[frigid kite]

For everything in general

[latent monolith]

You probably want E2

[mighty fulcrum]

Alright thanks

[latent monolith]

In general you can like cope with saria or smth

[frigid kite]

@mighty fulcrum do you have Saria?

[smoky crescent]

Bring a nightingale is best solution ngl, u have enough dps alr, u can also use summons from ng to prevent flame shower

[storm current]

That squad can work but need adjustment

You wont need sussuro gavialt

[surreal star]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TNVA597jBoQ?feature=share
help
what's the point of this i don't get it

[elder flume]

finding out who leaves the field after the required dp to maintain a merchant is insufficient

[surreal star]

[scarlet fulcrum]

I just realized the title

[surreal star]

pleb says hi btw

and that they changed their username

[elder flume]

which pleb

[surreal star]

brb

[steady reef]

is this rainchan the machine learning dalao?

[scarlet ledge]

lol

[elder flume]

[scarlet ledge]

hi rainchan

[elder flume]

hi suisei fan #2

[surreal star]

i’m sorry but this is all i have lmao

[elder flume]

[scarlet fulcrum]

is pleb quit from here or smt

[scarlet ledge]

gone

[elder flume]

first message was a year after i quit

[cedar hound]

Quit?
Banned

[scarlet fulcrum]

wtf

[whole crater]

Wtf

How everyone banned

[scarlet fulcrum]

I can see why but its sadge

[steady reef]

because people who get banned tend to be rather toxic and/or creepy people

[scarlet fulcrum]

Like me sometimes

[whole crater]

Why was pleb toxic and or creepy

What mans do

[steady reef]

offtopic and not relevant to this channel

[whole crater]

Gatekept

[pine drift]

Plebbel says I knew him back in late 2020, so prob different account and name back then

[elder flume]

rare mys in strat

[scarlet fulcrum]

Truly

[scarlet ledge]

[fresh copper]

Pleb got hit by the green name debuff

[elder flume]

what are the chances aak targetting got changed

i dont understand why it would be changed tho

ive just been afking stage for 4 hours

[vital arrow]

Isn't it related on how hate is calculated in ak?

Meow would know more though

[elder flume]

operators gain 1 hatred every second

capping at 10000s

position 1 has 1000 value
2 has 2000 value
3 has 3000 value

aak calculates with position value - hatred

and finds the lowest amount

so if position 2 has 1001 hatred while position 1 has 0 hatred then aak should target position 2

but im failing

[vital arrow]

Oh everyone is already deployed on the same position for 4h?

[elder flume]

just position 2

[vital arrow]

[glass monolith]

Did you e2 Mlynar and he gained taunt or you e2 W and she gained less chance to be attacked?

[lapis hornet]

wasn't there a cap

[vital arrow]

I think aak overrides those

[elder flume]

its saria vs myrtle

[lapis hornet]

I vaguely remember someone saying taunt only ticks to 999 or smth smth

[vital arrow]

Whats the scenario again

[elder flume]

putting a taunt operator in position 3 while other position accumulates 10000 hatred will override taunt

otherwise taunt gets prio

[vital arrow]

10k seconds of waiting

[lapis hornet]

I remember someone else tried and it was cursed

[elder flume]

ce stage isnt up so ive just been doing s5-9

idt tile height matters but will try ce later

[vital arrow]

This is starting to sound like a madman's lab notes

[elder flume]

2020 strat is like this

just tests after tests

[lapis hornet]

better than uh

whoever tested dp regen in anni for a week+

was it meow idr

[elder flume]

kyangi

[velvet igloo]

MY FUCKING GOD. TOOK 34289743264 tries. thanks a lot @vital arrow @quiet raft

[elder flume]

slay

[vital arrow]

Lmao you mad your own strat

Gj gj

[velvet igloo]

yeah had to e2 perf still 😭

ty ty

[thorny isle]

i knew u ever since u were in ur mom's womb

[pine drift]

[quiet raft]

Congrats!! 😄

[abstract zenith]

NL-9 gives crystals (which I'm after), does 0.933 mean it's better to farm them outside of the event?

[livid delta]

Ye

[glass monolith]

Who the fuck even need crystals
Event shop currency is still only inside NL stages

[livid delta]

Need crystal for mlynar s3m3

[abstract zenith]

Need for mountain s2m3

[livid delta]

Also nl-9 drop rate for Crystal is like 75%

R8-11 is only 57%

[glass monolith]

Oh right. Fuck the efficiency

[abstract zenith]

Same sanity cost tho?

[livid delta]

4m24s per crystal for nl-9 vs 7m58s for r8-11

[glass monolith]

When i need something, i need the something, not 4% to get device in 60% case of not getting main material

[livid delta]

I'm gonna farm nl-9 lmao

[abstract zenith]

But bottleneck is sanity, not time.

After spending xxx amount of sanity you will end up with more

[livid delta]

My bottleneck is time

[glass monolith]

At start of game maybe, after 1.5 years i have dozens of t3-t5 materials from shops/first time rewards etc so i really need the exact thing i look for

[crude cove]

Any advice for this stage, i just fall over at the end and cant kill the last set of mobs top and bottom side

id like to try and clear it without a support unit

[smoky crescent]

ugh... how much hp do ur blemishine have?

[crude cove]

3096

so i can tank the missle topside, i just cant kill everything

[smoky crescent]

she wont survive

i think the missle deal true dmg3k+

even if she can tank the missile but the surrounding mobs deal continous art dmg right?

[foggy grove]

missile is 3k

she will survive even more if she has 15 dmg red module

but yeah the mobs

[crude cove]

ye her module is lvl 1

[foggy grove]

[crude cove]

i get really close near the end

like the bomb just blows me up bottom side lmao

cus mylnar skill doesnt come up fast enough topside

maybei try activating earlier than neccessary

[smoky crescent]

let me rmbr... i used pozy hoshi mlynar for bot, mountain SA for top...

wait which lane does the missile aim?

bot or top?

@crude cove

[crude cove]

i normally have the missle aim topside and have blemi/mylnar tank it together

but at the very end my blemi dies

and missle always bombs everyone bottom side lmao

[smoky crescent]

understandable...

[smoky crescent]

the missile aims the last op with highest block count

[crude cove]

ye cus mylnar 0, blemi ded and it aims mountain cus hes got people on him

so hes got like 4+block

[smoky crescent]

bring ur best medic, and dps with fartooth pozy mlynar ig

let me open map

ah, which stage is this? i forgot

[crystal junco]

<@&586570970345635868>

[smoky crescent]

why ping mod?

[solemn sapphire]

scam link just now

[smoky crescent]

oh didnt see it

[solemn sapphire]

tis evaporated

[crude cove]

10-11,

surely its winnable

ok yeah nearl never die

[smoky crescent]

normal or adverse?

[crude cove]

adverse

who tf

[smoky crescent]

welfare ops for chap 10

[crude cove]

[smoky crescent]

dont mind her much.... skill 1 is gaming for ranged ops ig, s2 for melee ones...

[twin spindle]

She is free?

[sonic willow]

mlynar is good right

so turning everybody into mlynar

[random widget]

Omg hi Simple

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[sonic willow]

[waxen swan]

Guys i think heide is bad

[glass monolith]

Good, use Sora now

[fleet mortar]

God that reminded me the time i E2 Sora thinking she special for her class in launch

barely find a spot to use her aside for skill 2 rally when i can bring a dps to do the job

[waxen swan]

What else you build that was bad

[fleet mortar]

None for now since i lack mats, maybe the time i e2 kafka solely for the base skill

[glass monolith]

I shoperatored Sora and E2 M3 her in order to buff Goldenglow and maybe pile of other operators because i could

My roster is strong enough to survive such bullshit thinking

[royal hound]

But are your resources strong enough T-T

[glass monolith]

Rock 0, Sugar 0

Wait... Stainless need rock

FUCK

[scarlet ledge]

back to 1-7

[glass monolith]

10-6 my belowed

[scarlet mortar]

only reason she's E1L50 rn is bc i tried to help someone here who used her

(in the end they didn't need her)

[lavish snow]

Ummm help this is like the best I can do rn

[foggy grove]

how did uncle died

[civic nest]

why are u using lancet 2 again

[elder flume]

yea i dont get aak anymore

hatred isnt shifting his priority

[soft crystal]

Probably kyo guide

[civic nest]

ah

[soft crystal]

Kyo says you should use a better healer when you can

Stop copy pasting

[civic nest]

real stuff

[soft crystal]

Every kyo guide gonna be borrow mlynar now

Uncle win game

[civic nest]

💀

[smoky crescent]

go saria s1 better

[fresh copper]

Maleknights players when they realize they're now suffering from brainrot due to Mlynar

[flat sapphire]

play femaleknights instead

[surreal star]

omg

that reminds me of that lings dragons clear

[flat sapphire]

u've seen it too?

[surreal star]

hasn’t everybody?

[flat sapphire]

truly one of the clears of all time

[limpid siren]

[glass monolith]

Let me guess - "So anyway, i started S2ing" ?

[limpid siren]

dude has some huge values for his side lanes

[elder flume]

im trying frontal lane

side is useless

taunt -1 only gets to -10000 hatred

[limpid siren]

yeah

taunt should be enough to shift targeting to the adjacent operator

unless they spend too long deployed

[elder flume]

ye im doing hatred stacking

but nothings changing

[limpid siren]

[main solstice]

Isnt aak
10,000 for middle tiles
1,000,000 for side tiles
incrementing each further tile

?

Thats what meow said

[elder flume]

1k for direct front

2k and 3k for further direct front

4m 5m 6m 7m for the rest

[main solstice]

So meow is wrong?

[elder flume]

you can alter frontal priority but not sidelane due to taunt capping at -10000 and 20000

pretty sure meow says the same as me no?

[main solstice]

No

[elder flume]

it only takes 17 mins to alter frontal priority tho

which is 1000s

[main solstice]

Wait let me find the ss

[elder flume]

atleast thats how it was during first test

[elder flume]

why did he change a year after

was there aak patch

i can try 10000s ig

roughly 3 hours?

[limpid siren]

no shot you want to test

[elder flume]

my anni3 auto is 1239 minutes long so

[civic nest]

wth pro

[elder flume]

why not

[limpid siren]

whaaa

lmao

[lethal dragon]

🥹ai pfp

[lethal dragon]

Were you testing the unlimited skill bar thing?

[elder flume]

just testing if the minute counter goes over 3 digits

which it does

i had my dp capped at 999 so i wasnt the first person to find anni dp regenerating

[lethal dragon]

🗽

[glass monolith]

Yea yea 0 vanguard X years Anni 9, know this shit

[limpid siren]

amazing input

[proud drift]

1.2k minutes long...

did you just

leave the anni over night

and go to sleep

or what

[elder flume]

kinda

at the 10th hour it started lagging the frames

i think i started at midnight and just left it on till next day

[storm current]

Ce5 is easier to set up

[civic nest]

6-5 is easy to set up

[lethal dragon]

Not setting up and letting your device is the easiest thing

[latent halo]

Hi anyone stuck on any stage ?

[civic nest]

im stuck with u handsome man

[elder flume]

im stuck in ce5 for the next 3 hours

[civic nest]

speedrun elden ring in the mean time?

[elder flume]

im watching oshi no ko for the 2nd time

[civic nest]

b-but theres only 1 episode
why are u like this

[latent halo]

Is that anime good

Wait ako

[civic nest]

eh

[proud drift]

apparently rank1 on myanimelist already

[civic nest]

heard its ok

[turbid badge]

wtf

[civic nest]

but havent watched it so who am i to judge

[proud drift]

not my type either so won't bother downloading it

[latent halo]

I saw 16 yo pregnanted and husband unknown i skip

[civic nest]

its funny as hell

the premise

[turbid badge]

wow nice plot

[latent monolith]

Well execution matters too

[latent halo]

again ako

[civic nest]

atleast the art is nice

[latent monolith]

Well yeah this is strategy not offtopic

[turbid badge]

did u see help yesterday

[latent monolith]

Yes

[elder flume]

[civic nest]

yesterday was illegal banging or evolution

[proud drift]

has help ever been useful

[latent halo]

Tell me more

[civic nest]

a dude said suzuran and was it shamare

was hot

and ppl start arguing

abt the age of consent

[latent halo]

Idk how can they mixed up and start arguement

Sham suzu kit are different lul

One slows and one dint

One stat debuff

And one sluggish fragile

[civic nest]

nah

they argue

abt

if they can have s*gs with them

or nah

[latent halo]

Wtf

Mod sleeping ?

[civic nest]

mod came

a little bit late

[latent halo]

Can u lead me there

[civic nest]

find age of consent in help

[latent halo]

Imma watch the whole convo

[civic nest]

https://discordapp.com/channels/586503387072167937/586588958885150721/1095198546162102304

scroll up

theres alot

oh yea

its gummy

not shamare

[turbid badge]

lmao the archetto image with the lightning

[proud drift]

[turbid badge]

#help (derogatory)

[proud drift]

wait where

I need it

I can't find it

[turbid badge]

its where help was arguing about sitting archetto or something

[proud drift]

bruh

[turbid badge]

#help message

s3

[glass monolith]

2 more weeks for ARCHETOO WOOOOOOOOOO

[turbid badge]

real

mmaybe ill get her

[latent halo]

Most of them are deleted by mods

[proud drift]

oh I expected it

[civic nest]

sadly

[proud drift]

to be the lowtiergod archetto

[latent halo]

Or themself

[proud drift]

[latent anvil]

rain have you read the manga

[civic nest]

theres still nanashi message abt the age at school

so thats still kinda curse

[turbid badge]

“its discord, its okay to be wierd sometimes”

oh yeah nl devices soon

[latent halo]

NL is kohl

[turbid badge]

im coping from daily quests

[latent halo]

Ohhh

We have that too

[latent anvil]

Oh yeah that thing

[lethal dragon]

Lmao

[scarlet ledge]

o k

[latent anvil]

pro

[coral haven]

Can someone explain to me in great detail the Playwright’s moveset because I am getting confused.
Periodically attacks all allied units in the field. How often?
Periodically uses arts to reduce an ally attack speed and deal arts damage. How often?
If the ally faints with the effect, the tile is locked. I saw 2 die at once and both tiles are locked, so does that mean the infliction is very frequent?
How fast is the speed buff at below 50% hp?

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/rxl1uJmf4Q4

[proud drift]

the debuff is permanent

unlike talulah

[elder flume]

so ive put gavial is pos2 for 2.5 hours now

shud be 5 hours cuz 2x speed

and aak still targets pos1

[elder flume]

tell meow to do aak test of his own thanks

im gona wait for 30 more mins

if it keeps failing then i'll postpone it

[main solstice]

Ok

[main solstice]

@elder flume

[elder flume]

they either changed manhattan value or changed taunt value

which doesnt make sense

[proud drift]

Here’s the real question

Is this info gonna be useful outside of “ackshually” scenarios

[elder flume]

anni takes approx 30 minutes of runtime

[turbid badge]

whatt

Aak target middle right

[elder flume]

17 minutes is the time needed to shift priority normally

or atleast used to be the time needed

[proud drift]

2 questions then

Who tf uses aak for anni

And how tf ur aani takes so long

[turbid badge]

lmao

[proud drift]

[elder flume]

does ur anni end fast

[turbid badge]

mfw proxy

[elder flume]

u get a clear time when u first clear

[proud drift]

Every anni is like 10-15mins for me depends on how many mobs per wave

Oh ingame time iirc is usually 20ish mins?

[elder flume]

thats more than 17 mins

[frigid kite]

My anni clears take like 1 second

[turbid badge]

mine usuaally 30

[frigid kite]

Of using the auto ticket

[elder flume]

aak is great cc with self sufficient abilities with s1

s2 s3 has their own niche

[polar crane]

aak s1 is just basically avoid sniper ban

[elder flume]

most aak users would use s3 for anni

mlynar just makes it easier for aaking

healing sniper aak

with stun slow capabilities

[main solstice]

@elder flume can you aak mlynar in pos3 if someone is in pos1?

I cant test it rn

[elder flume]

ye

it taunts

[turbid badge]

whattt

[main solstice]

Yeah then it should be 1000 hatred not 10000

[elder flume]

my gavial isnt hit when paired with sa tho

Shit game

[turbid badge]

of course it targets in front

[elder flume]

teta do u wana see it targetting not in direct front

i have a vid from 2 years ago

[main solstice]

Please read the mechanics list

Read about hatred

[surreal star]

does hatred have any practical use btw?

[main solstice]

Its not that easy as it target in front

[turbid badge]

how to read the list

[elder flume]

hatred is the soul of every enemy targetting

why does caster hit ur last deployed? cuz hatred exist

[surreal star]

is there any purpose in differentiating between the standard last deployed/taunt mechanics vs hatred

ik that there's weird cases

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/79Xus4rIrJk

[surreal star]

but those don't pop up in normal gameplay right

[turbid badge]

wtf

[elder flume]

i wana say yes but at the same time theres cursed unexplainable mechanics that says no

[surreal star]

[elder flume]

like metallurgist from tw that somehow changes targets after attacking

despite no order change

[main solstice]

You can deploy and op first and then deploy other op and have the first deployed op target by the enemies

But that can only be done in cn

Because pause deploy

[surreal star]

[proud drift]

In other words, for us en, it’s a mechanic for ppl who wanna be funny n quirky with their gameplay

In other words

1200min anni clear

[vital arrow]

Did anyone figure out the matterlurgist targeting again

Or are they just wonky

[proud drift]

Matterlurgist is what enemy?

[vital arrow]

ToW physical casters

[turbid badge]

mattergeist

or whatt

oh the mudrock

what a name

Prioritizes attacking alllied[sic] units that are vying for control of "Gramophones."

[elder flume]

leme find the gif

meow said a lot of cursed huh

fer does meow still have every gif i had

[turbid badge]

fear not

[vital arrow]

That's like basically his whole existence

I remember reading his rambling on saria losing like a fraction of sp gen because of how her search cycle works

That was a good read

[turbid badge]

Feeling shafted by the randomness of the matterllurgists' attacks in EX-8? That's no randomness. That's a bug and here's the fix:
https://youtu.be/2D80arDIJD0

🥒

“These enemies prioritize operators charging the towers and can hit two operators at once. The bug causes them to target the second-to-last deployed operator that is not on the charging tile instead of the usual last deployed operator as their secondary target, potentially ruining the run and making it seems highly random.”

[polar crane]

spaghetti code

[elder flume]

wish they made the vid prettier

quite hard to keep track

[turbid badge]

secondary target real

[elder flume]

@latent monolith the rule still applies

[vital arrow]

Oh its that stage

The one where the artilleryman just doesn't care and just steps on your ops

[latent anvil]

Rain

Why don't you claim green username

You are pro 🛐

[elder flume]

Because i dont make content

I simply learn and archive mechanics and bugs etc

[latent anvil]

[polar crane]

green debuff

[main solstice]

[elder flume]

It is cool to be called an object of the past ngl

I just see ppl come here and be like is that rainchan

[terse python]

i'm having trouble with even the first level of today's training grounds... does anyone have any tips?

[proud drift]

uhh

what's the training grounds for today?

[terse python]

victoria londonium outskirts

[proud drift]

oh

ch10

what are your choices for ops

[terse python]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Shaymin

this isn't quite up to date, i've also got mlynar and some others

[proud drift]

is kaltsit e2

[terse python]

she is now

[proud drift]

oh then it should be very ez

borrow mountain for right side vent

uhh

lemme try to get into the game

I'll show

[terse python]

thank you!

[proud drift]

also masteries on mudrock s3

[terse python]

is that wrong...?

[proud drift]

no

not necessarily

just people usually do s2 first

since s2 is used a lot more than s3

[terse python]

ah...

[proud drift]

also s3 can make this very cheesable

but uhh

I won't burden you with it

I'll see if you can just live without it

oh risks are relatively ez too

is myrtle e2 m3?

or no?

[terse python]

e2, but not m3

[proud drift]

oof

well, I'll see

I'll try this team

with s2 mud not s3

in your case it'd be a mountain borrow

ya I cleared it

was also a lot easier than I thought

though I hope your masteries are up to my level

I don't think mudrock mastery will matter

I even flubbed it by not baiting one sarkaz bondage guy

like for exmaple does ur kaltsit have masteries

[terse python]

she has s3 mastery

[proud drift]

m3?

[terse python]

yeah

[proud drift]

nice

that's the most important one

so I'm gonna post a video and some important things to note

if you interrupt the second caster that chained my mudrock

your mudrock won't even die

my mudmud died cause she got chained cause I wasn't paying attention

second thing is

you can bring more ops if you want

as baits

like I dropped red and gravel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DxilDDaatY

and the most important is

try to understand the purpose of each unit

mountain can solo hold that lane for the most part

kaltsit won't get affected by risks at all as long as you don't take the manfred risk

Surtr won't get affected either

like

with these risks you can do the same strat

and it should work

I'm pretty sure

[terse python]

thank you very much!

[proud drift]

only thing that can be more painful is deploying baits

due to redeployment time

and the solution to that is more baits

such as yato, meaty defender to tank fred like a medic defender or sth

the boss walks like this

so if you don't kill him in front of mont3r first time

you can let him walk around and kill him after

cuz the mountain spot is literally just slimes and at the end 2 of the big slimes

[polar crane]

remember the caster

[proud drift]

caster comes at 33/58

so if you bait him mudrock shouldn't die

actually even chained

my mudrock didn't die

but she'd have more hp

she died to fred's transition

oh and my mudmud was lv40

so if urs is higher level it might have even higher chances of survival

[terse python]

hooray!

[proud drift]

ya this cc is very easy once you understand the basic strat for it

NTR also works instead of kaltsit

but in your case you didn't have it

cause otherwise you can kill fred even easier

once with kaltsit on right side and second time in middle with NTR s3

and the defensive risks won't affect fred in any way since kaltsit true dmg

[terse python]

thank you very much!

[proud drift]

did you get the risk4 too

[terse python]

not yet...

[inland berry]

Hello, does anyone know the most efficient method to level up in IS2?

like full clear or die half way

[cyan gorge]

Ideally full clear

[fresh copper]

Just get lucky and beat IS2 easily

[turbid badge]

Real

now beat is3

(soon)

man is3 relic hype

[inland berry]

eh is2 first ending* is like 100% win rate if you just spam same strat but i just wanted to know if it was more efficient to full clear or give up and repeat half way

[sharp swallow]

So is the main goal of sea creatures to kill them before they can break you with Nervous Impairment?

[proud drift]

Wdym

And no not exactly

Nowadays we have honeyberry and mulberry

Honeyberry is insanely good for them

The easier way is to kill them before they touch you

But some of it is unavoidable and you can cope thru it

[sharp swallow]

Doing the annihilation dedicated to sea creatures, they shred me

[proud drift]

Or you can make the flowers kill themselves by stalling them with fast redeploys

Ya so

[sharp swallow]

I was using both, is it a skill issue

[turbid badge]

the screaming ones?

[proud drift]

Flowers you can make them die to fast redeploys, since it’s anni you can’t just have lee tank them sadly

[sharp swallow]

The ones that come in on the right, and top right

[proud drift]

Eggs are killed by operators from a distance

[turbid badge]

the screaming ones u can use ways of CC, and stall them and they slowly kill themselves

[proud drift]

They also don’t splash when they’re stunned

But best way is to just have strong snipers murder them

[turbid badge]

yea

outrange the boom

whats ur team

[sharp swallow]

But there’s no placement that I have that can out range them, my best snipers are Poze and Exu

[sharp swallow]

One sec

[turbid badge]

poze

[proud drift]

Oh ya in this case

Those two tiles

[sharp swallow]

I took Poze off

[proud drift]

face right and burst

Otherwise you can also use poze typewriter

Unsure where they stop

If they stop in the middle you can poze top left of the bell facing right and when they come out S3 + typewriter below top egg face down

Irene S3 also kills them without them exploding

[sharp swallow]

Pozy gets massively distracted by squishy peons tho

I used Silverash to get rid of them, but his range is perfectly hitting the eggs

[proud drift]

Ya so also

You might wanna bring gravel AND projekt red or sth

Phantom maybe works too

For the flowers

Unless they aren’t an issue

But for the eggs yeah you either burst with snipers before they walk into range

Or irene S3

[sharp swallow]

I use NTRK and Kalt on them but they are beginning to be an issue later on

[proud drift]

Who do you borrow

[sharp swallow]

I don’t

[proud drift]

You should

Will make it easier

No use for autodeploy anyways

[sharp swallow]

What about Proxy?

[proud drift]

Useless for non-rotation maps

Current anni>anni3>anni2>anni1

Afaik at least

Cuz they don’t give orundum progress

I think

At least if I recall correctly I tried and I didn’t get anything

[sharp swallow]

Ooh yeah no it doesn’t give progress

[proud drift]

[sharp swallow]

I’ll get the rewards though borrowing?

[proud drift]

Ye

Only kills matter

[sharp swallow]

Awesome, ty

Oh and one last thing

Would Gg be good?

[proud drift]

Uhhh

I don’t remember using her honestly

[vital arrow]

GG has wonky targeting if S3

[sharp swallow]

I was thinking her S3 for the eggs

[proud drift]

S2 better for anni

[vital arrow]

And S2 just doesn't fit anywhere on the map

[proud drift]

And s3 targeting is fucky wucky

[fluid sail]

gg targeting for a specific enemy with s3 is hard to use

[vital arrow]

She'll probably end up targetin top left enemies

[fluid sail]

s3 is nice for annis when everything annoying waits for like an hour just outside the red box but s2 would probably be better for that specific anni

[turbid badge]

why thrm x

[glass monolith]

S3 GG is hard? It is that hard to be aware if someone on map has taunt and who is closer to blue box?

[surreal star]

it’s one thing to be aware of targeting

[vital arrow]

It's not hard

[surreal star]

and another to actually hit the right enemy

[vital arrow]

But enemy pathing is another thing

Ik GG S3 is just turn off brain and letting it hit anything she feels like

[glass monolith]

Me who uses Ambriel still not follow where are issue

[proud drift]

because ambriel targeting

is different

[vital arrow]

Ambriel actually has a priority though

[proud drift]

[fluid sail]

on tidehollow in particular it would matter since gg could decide to hit an egg you don’t want to or smth and blow up your whole team

[glass monolith]

Well GG has standard priority, she slows, makes other enemy go ahead, uga wunga you now attacking different enemy

[vital arrow]

I mean if shes just targeting anything she likes

Whats the point of using her

When you can just use a normal op

[proud drift]

the case of that map specifically is

in most cases

[glass monolith]

BECAUSE SHE FUCKING BLASTS

[fluid sail]

gg s3 works fine for most annis it just seems like a risk for tidehollow where she can explode stuff

[proud drift]

gg will focus top left

instead of top right

[vital arrow]

Okay...

[proud drift]

cause eggs walk out

and stop

while the wolves top left

will keep running

thus being closer to the blue box

than the eggs

so it's realistically near-impossible to make her target the eggs unless you spawnkill top left so hard that not even the flying mobs get to live

[vital arrow]

Realistically the flying mobs will be targeted last

Because they have a very long pathing

[proud drift]

oh ya they have different pathing

but still top left has to be mega-spawnkilled for gg not to even focus it

which is uh

gonna be quite hard especially in later waves

cuz later waves have funny flowers

that go stabby stabby

[fluid sail]

I don’t remember the pathing for tidehollow but if thats how it works with top left then s3 should be fine if she’s always targeting top left with it anyways

[proud drift]

ya but the eggs are top right

[vital arrow]

Just use S2 at that point

Perma duration, more stable dps

[proud drift]

ya s2 would just be better

if you want top left

[vital arrow]

Pozy would probably work on eggs

[limpid siren]

[vital arrow]

Ignyuus who did you use for top left

FW?

[limpid siren]

on what

[vital arrow]

UT anni

[limpid siren]

lappdumb iirc

and uh

elysium?

[vital arrow]

Oh wait top right lmao

[limpid siren]

firewatch and platinum

[vital arrow]

[limpid siren]

spec blocking

i think

[vital arrow]

Now that i think of it, eggs popping wouldnt be a problem with honeyberry would it?

[limpid siren]

depends how hard and fast you hit them ig

honeyberry probably copes though

[proud drift]

it would be problematic

Irene S3 should make it ez tho

especially if you can get a chen to charge her between eggs

since the guy has irene

[limpid siren]

iirc my run places a silence drone right as platinum pops the egg that gets close

just to keep them alive

[vital arrow]

[proud drift]

I didn’t share my clear on it with anyone so I’ll never know what I used for right side

[gentle finch]

right side

i just popped blaze with a medic i think

something like that idk

[proud drift]

My biggest mistake was trying to use fia in that anni

I think i had archetto top of topright and ash bottom of right

[glass monolith]

i recall using someones else Ash for one of ranged tiles. That's all

[proud drift]

For FTT too probably lol

[glass monolith]

And if i were to do Anni EGGS today, my roster reached point of "reality can be whatever i want"

[proud drift]

I wish they’d let us re-experience old cc

Now that they have 12 cc

[glass monolith]

i tried to do Anni 9 spawncamp out of nothing to do

[proud drift]

They can do monthly ccs

Next to the rotating dailies

But with actual rewards

[glass monolith]

I hope they will return tree cutting event in CN

[lethal dragon]

Tomorrow NL

Let's fucking go

[latent anvil]

[glass monolith]

oh fuck my life

Give me dead week

[lethal dragon]

Did you guys check chapter 12 hell stages

[glass monolith]

No because it will spoil the fun

I know boss is bitch, and one of stages ban all ranged tiles on hard.

[lethal dragon]

https://youtu.be/jpYseO-Xmxo

[latent monolith]

Does it apply on S2 though?
S2 is the skill with the directional shove gimmick

[dawn hearth]

I'm having some difficulty with M8-8, mostly due to my bottom lane heroes dying at the halfway point.
I've tried the Chenalter, SA, Mudrock, and Mlynar clears I've already seen.
Could just be me not having access to maxed out versions of those, or more likely skill/investment issue.

Would appreciate any help/advice!

[lethal dragon]

Młynar + gavial can easily clear it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764151583289376789/1092507967825395753/Screenshot_2023-04-03-22-49-21-20_39a08d986496c6659356f005305ed773.jpg

[lethal dragon]

Show your healers

[dawn hearth]

Could I possibly add you for access to Gavial? These are my healers

[lethal dragon]

You'd raise sussuro

Hmm also is your młynar m3?

[dawn hearth]

M2 currently. Need to wait for some sanity or certs for last few grindstones

[lethal dragon]

M2 will work tbh lemme see

[lethal dragon]

Oh yeah give your id I didn't read message

[turbid badge]

oh nice provisio module and ptilo stack

+0.5!!

no wonder why shes getting sp back so fast

[turbid badge]

skyfire talent and harmonie synergy

[gentle finch]

:tf:

he will need a lot more medics but should be fine!

[gentle finch]

as compared to this

[civic nest]

eh

ofc

lower lvl medic

he just said use mlynar and gav

[latent monolith]

So S2 works as expected ig

[dawn hearth]

Dupple#0071 Apologies, had to step away for a bit

[gentle finch]

I might touch ch10 H stages

those are so ass to play

I need to expand my brain

[whole crater]

i used kyo guide on h10 3heeeheee

[gentle finch]

guides are for the weak

[limpid siren]

[formal moss]

Is this a ok Comp for this? i don't really have a silencer

[polar crane]

might need more dps

[civic nest]

no silence

bring frd

[polar crane]

specter can solo left side so you dont need shaw

borrow thorn or smt

[civic nest]

prob don’t use lumen s3

the ammo gonna be waste on nothing

use his s1

[formal moss]

smth like this?

[civic nest]

my wifi so bad i can’t load the image

[polar crane]

you can drop cantabile

[formal moss]

Well a little too late But hows my positioning?

[polar crane]

good enough

I'd use fia s2 and use her like ifrit

[foggy grove]

uncle on angry tile

[polar crane]

flip paper 30% faster

[elder flume]

isnt it 50% slower due to chill

[foggy grove]

poor chill

speaking of angry tile
https://youtu.be/bIFbZ_y1eGM

[cyan gorge]

Imagine not using red tile abuse with Heavyrain cheese

[distant hound]

shouldn't it be "put the op in pos2 >1000 sec after you put the op in pos1"
or is that actually what you mean and I'm just dumb

[formal moss]

Haha funni dp

[gentle finch]

meow

[elder flume]

it is
in this case i put pos2 for 10000s

and then pos1 starts

[distant hound]

pos1 was deployed on start, pos2 was deployed on 10k mark?

[elder flume]

opposite

[distant hound]

in that case, pos1 hatred is 10k, pos2 hatred is 0
so after postfilter pos1 has -9k, pos2 has -2k, so it should target pos1

[elder flume]

its 1k

vs -8k

[distant hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861258843974926347/1092281426252144660/image.png

[elder flume]

pos1 is never deployed until pos2 stacks

[distant hound]

if pos1 is deployed on 10k mark then it has 10k hatred, so 1k - 10k

[elder flume]

they dont gain hatred until deployed

[distant hound]

thats what I mean, yes

[elder flume]

pos1 value is 1k without hatred

pos2 value is 2k without hatred

[distant hound]

thats manhattan, yes

[elder flume]

i feel like theres something we arent lining up with

[distant hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861258843974926347/1092274066406260766/image.png

surely we have the same formula for hatred

(nvm the part at the bottom)

[distant hound]

I assume by opposite you meant "pos1 was deployed on 10k mark, pos2 was deployed on start"

[elder flume]

opposite of that

ur former message made it look like pos1 was stacking 10k hatred

[distant hound]

oh

yeah I meant when was that op deployed

did they change Aak postfilter that'd be so weird

[formal moss]

cries in pain